I noticed your patch for the 3rd Marine Division. That is the division I was in while in Vietnam and later Okinawa. 3rd AMTRAC Battalion. Thank you for your support of veterans!
There are experts. There are teachers. There are craftsmen. And then there are experts who can teach their craft. I didn't even there were prescribed angles. As I start my new project with hand cut dovetails, this was very very timely. TY. Also, your sharpening tutorials REALLY saved the day for me. I highly encourage everyone to buy the small "ruler" to elevate the plane/blade from his store.
37 years a cabinet maker, up until 2 years ago it was always about the power tools. The CNC's and sliding bed saws are taking the craft away from the work. You are helping to put it back. I greatly appreciate all the videos sharing the knowledge.
Laying out dovetails for a box project and chose for the first time a 1:6 ratio because I thought it looked better; came here and now I have more confidence than ever in my choice. Really appreciate that you share your expertise.
Hi Rob, Andy here from Devon, England. I have not cut dovetails since I was in high school, some 43 years ago. I am in the process of turning my single car garage into a workshop. When I'm not working on that, I am watching your videos, along with other great craftsmen such as Matt Estlea, Paul Sellers, Stumpy Nubbs et al. I've been thinking of making some boxes as gifts and just for the fun of it. I find your methods of teaching to be first class. I can totally see your point of view on dovetail ratios and I will use this as a standard. I will, however experiment with other ratios, again, just for the fun and curiosity factor. Thanks so much and keep up the fantastic work you do.
Interesting. I never thought of the box joint as a zero degree dovetail. The other element is the width of the tails (or pins, I guess) - that is, spacing. How many is too many?
Great explanation Rob, makes perfect sense the thinking back then and yours now, thanks for taking the time to explain. Now, if you could explain why you and lots of others like to make the pins so damn small, is there a ratio there as well, that I'd truly appreciate hearing - is it aesthetics, because if so, to me, I don't like them that small.
Great little video. Informative, riddled with experience, succinct. I use 10 degrees for same reasons + it transfers well to machinery. Hair looks fine but how you going to fit a hat over it in the cold country of yours?
I just made a stretcher for mom's porch outta Osage without all my tools n used 45° and broke a wing off, a lil glue and screw fixed it but wish I had my tail markers
I'm very much a traditionalist, and I appreciate what you're saying but for me I will stick with 1:6 for softwoods and 1:8 for hardwoods. Another interesting ratio is the size of tail to pin. Normally I would adopt 3:1 tail to pin measured along the shoulder line for finer work I'd probably use 4:1 - thoughts?
Nice length of video and focused. However, I'm not sure of the term 'folklore' regarding the dovetal although there is a holy grail! Here in the UK we call it tradition and the terminology is pitch rather than angle. I mention this because you visited and filmed the late Alan Peters, probably the greatest British furniture designer maker for half a century and he would not have used the word folklore! The traditional pitch (ratio) is between 1:5 and 1:8 the former being suited for hardwoods, the issue being (as you later point out) the more acute angle or pitch creates short grain and the tail tips can break off which soft wood is more prone to. I would prefer to use the terms hard or soft wood rather than hardwood or softwood as pitch pine is a softwood and is very hard and balsa wood is a hardwood! This begs the question as timber densities vary enormously across and within timber types, why not vary the angle indeed guess it as what looks attractive and is strong and fit for purpose! I suspect the pedantics appeal to woodworkers with an engineering background.As yo suggest towards the end of your video the 1:6 looks right and I agree. I never measure the angle. Here in the UK there seems to be a trend in fine furniture making circles to make the tail incredibly thin which to my mind just demonstrates the technical skill of the maker as there is a point (infinity!) where it doesnt look right because it doesn't look strong. Forgive my rant it is just that I took my PhD in The dovetail, which to early Neanderthal is a wedge!
Great explanation. I only have one issue. 6-1/2 minutes?!? This is way too short for me to be sufficiently Cosmanized. I'm used to 30, 40-min videos and longer from you. I guess I'll make do though.😉
The luscious mane prevented me from learning all I could. Next time, please shake your hair a la Fabio/Vidal Sassoon style 🤣😂 & put it in the thumbnail
Just to qualify what I said, there is no right or wrong with the designs you use, it is simply a matter of personal preference and no one should criticise that choice.
Great tip. And the hair is looking FABULOUS!
That’s the 1:6 hairstyle, the one that looks best :P
I like that response 1:6 hair style!
I like this guy. He is a good teacher.
I noticed your patch for the 3rd Marine Division. That is the division I was in while in Vietnam and later Okinawa. 3rd AMTRAC Battalion. Thank you for your support of veterans!
There are experts. There are teachers. There are craftsmen. And then there are experts who can teach their craft. I didn't even there were prescribed angles. As I start my new project with hand cut dovetails, this was very very timely. TY. Also, your sharpening tutorials REALLY saved the day for me. I highly encourage everyone to buy the small "ruler" to elevate the plane/blade from his store.
Really digging the longer hair! I know, not important but shows that you are enjoying life a bit and letting things flow!!! Great video as always👊🏾
I am reverting back to the 60’s!
37 years a cabinet maker, up until 2 years ago it was always about the power tools. The CNC's and sliding bed saws are taking the craft away from the work. You are helping to put it back. I greatly appreciate all the videos sharing the knowledge.
Its my mission. Giving back what my mentors taught me
Laying out dovetails for a box project and chose for the first time a 1:6 ratio because I thought it looked better; came here and now I have more confidence than ever in my choice. Really appreciate that you share your expertise.
Hi Rob, Andy here from Devon, England. I have not cut dovetails since I was in high school, some 43 years ago. I am in the process of turning my single car garage into a workshop. When I'm not working on that, I am watching your videos, along with other great craftsmen such as Matt Estlea, Paul Sellers, Stumpy Nubbs et al. I've been thinking of making some boxes as gifts and just for the fun of it. I find your methods of teaching to be first class. I can totally see your point of view on dovetail ratios and I will use this as a standard. I will, however experiment with other ratios, again, just for the fun and curiosity factor. Thanks so much and keep up the fantastic work you do.
Love your videos!! Seeing the shot of the floor was reassuring! You are only human after all!! Thanks for your great videos David
Always teaching -sharing your knowledge… we appreciate you Mr.Rob
My pleasure!
Another quick informative video. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Fantastic video. Providing knowledge that I’ve never seen discussed anywhere else. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video.
Great quick vid guys! Thamks for sharing🙌🤘🙌😄💥
Excellent!
Thanks for sharing Rob!
Thanks for watching
Spot on 👌 👌 love 1:6 it just looks great.
I agree
Thanks Rob, again, for useful information taught in a style to be honest and credible.
Always, thanks for commenting
Great insight into this aspect of the dovetail joint. Thanks Rob~!
You bet
Very nicely explained. Thank you
You are welcome
thank you for sharing your knowledge...well done
Glad it was helpful!
Great explanation. Thanks for sharing. Take care
Thanks for watching!
Now I understand .💡 Thanks
Excellent
Cool thought. Cheers.
thanks for commenting
Interesting. I never thought of the box joint as a zero degree dovetail. The other element is the width of the tails (or pins, I guess) - that is, spacing. How many is too many?
Nice
Rob rockin' some hockey hair.
How long can it go!
Great explanation Rob, makes perfect sense the thinking back then and yours now, thanks for taking the time to explain. Now, if you could explain why you and lots of others like to make the pins so damn small, is there a ratio there as well, that I'd truly appreciate hearing - is it aesthetics, because if so, to me, I don't like them that small.
Great video format, short & sweet, but loaded with lots if insights and useable info.
We are trying some shorter vids
I will be seeing you on Sunday August 7th
awesome
Agree
me too
Great little video. Informative, riddled with experience, succinct. I use 10 degrees for same reasons + it transfers well to machinery.
Hair looks fine but how you going to fit a hat over it in the cold country of yours?
I will weave my hair into a hat!
😂👍🏻
Danny, as long as he can fit into a hockey helmet, he is good to go. 👍
Awesome! Kurt Russell has started a woodworking channel. 😆👍
I will check it out
😂 I was gonna say the same thing! 😂😂😂
Nice new hair doo, Rob. You resemble Elvis!!!
ain't nothing but a hound dog
I just made a stretcher for mom's porch outta Osage without all my tools n used 45° and broke a wing off, a lil glue and screw fixed it but wish I had my tail markers
Mechanical aspects are very important. Strength supersedes beauty. Skinny pins are more a matter of esthetics.
I'm very much a traditionalist, and I appreciate what you're saying but for me I will stick with 1:6 for softwoods and 1:8 for hardwoods.
Another interesting ratio is the size of tail to pin. Normally I would adopt 3:1 tail to pin measured along the shoulder line for finer work I'd probably use 4:1 - thoughts?
I think his thoughts would be to pick whatever makes it look best… have you watched the whole video?
that works too!
Yes, I was just stating my view point, which on the whole agrees with Rob's
Aesthectically, I like the 1 and 6 ratio, too.
me too
Damn, I would say to get your hair cut, hippie, but you pull it off fabulously. I just wish I had hair
If you have it flaunt it!!!!
Прическу поменял 🇹🇷👍
👍
Holy cow Rob's going John wick with that hair!
Nice length of video and focused. However, I'm not sure of the term 'folklore' regarding the dovetal although there is a holy grail! Here in the UK we call it tradition and the terminology is pitch rather than angle. I mention this because you visited and filmed the late Alan Peters, probably the greatest British furniture designer maker for half a century and he would not have used the word folklore! The traditional pitch (ratio) is between 1:5 and 1:8 the former being suited for hardwoods, the issue being (as you later point out) the more acute angle or pitch creates short grain and the tail tips can break off which soft wood is more prone to. I would prefer to use the terms hard or soft wood rather than hardwood or softwood as pitch pine is a softwood and is very hard and balsa wood is a hardwood! This begs the question as timber densities vary enormously across and within timber types, why not vary the angle indeed guess it as what looks attractive and is strong and fit for purpose! I suspect the pedantics appeal to woodworkers with an engineering background.As yo suggest towards the end of your video the 1:6 looks right and I agree. I never measure the angle. Here in the UK there seems to be a trend in fine furniture making circles to make the tail incredibly thin which to my mind just demonstrates the technical skill of the maker as there is a point (infinity!) where it doesnt look right because it doesn't look strong. Forgive my rant it is just that I took my PhD in The dovetail, which to early Neanderthal is a wedge!
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At a distance id say that sexy hair wave is a 6:1 ratio. hahah, thanks for the video.
Yes it is
Wow! More comments on the hair than the content! 😉
I know….crazy
Great explanation. I only have one issue. 6-1/2 minutes?!? This is way too short for me to be sufficiently Cosmanized. I'm used to 30, 40-min videos and longer from you. I guess I'll make do though.😉
Hey, I often have to skip the long ones, I was thrilled to be able to watch this one. Just watch more shorter ones instead of you’ve got the time!
we are trying to do a short one then a long one
Big trouble in little dovetail
if you use the wrong ratio!
@@RobCosmanWoodworking 😀was meaning you looked like Kurt Russell in that vid
The luscious mane prevented me from learning all I could. Next time, please shake your hair a la Fabio/Vidal Sassoon style 🤣😂 & put it in the thumbnail
Maybe I should go bare chested too!
Is this the Wayne Gretzky woodworking show?!?
Yes it is
Just to qualify what I said, there is no right or wrong with the designs you use, it is simply a matter of personal preference and no one should criticise that choice.
Exactly
In my opinion If you're going to go the the effort off cutting dovetails then make sure people can see its a dovetail
I agree
That joint can hold you, but can it hold me.
Uh oh!
Rob, you need a haircut!
Letting it grow