Im gaming the Accra now in Long Drive after previously using the Autoflex. Most impressive thing is as Ian saying its very stable when getting after it.
Thanks for this. I've put this shaft in the bag and I've seen similar results you got. Good bye xstiff shaft and hello longer and in the fairway. You guys are the best.
Finally got my Accra shaft in. Originally had at 46 in and couldn’t find the center of face. Cut down to 45 inches and paired it with Ai Smoke Max. Got Sw to D0. Easiest and Most Consistent driver shaft I have ever owned. Thanks for the Video saved me 600 USD.
I have a slow SS (85) and was fit for an AF SF405 (not at TXG). Played it for a year. Found that I had to swing really smooth to get it to perform. Have talked to others with same issue. Switched to Tensei Blue 65 stiff and really like that I can swing as hard as I want.
Try the Fuji Speeder NX Green in the 40g or 50 g . Very similar to the accra you just tested where the Speeder NX blue is more in line with autoflex. I got 181 mph ball speed multiple times but more importantly kept them in play.
MobileClubMaker and Mr Shortgame tested cheaper options to AF and showed really good results with the Evenflow Riptide Cb in senior flex. Based on that I got a $50 Evenflow Riptide CB in stiff 45.5 and instantly improved my strike pattern and trajectory. Felt whippy compared to the 44 hzrdus I had been playing but still stable. I was a little scared to go all out in the A flex
Hi i built this shaft approx 250 cdn dollars and it works well for my swing. I seem to be tighter dispersion than my stiff driver shaft…. Not sure how?? I dont think i gained much distance but i like how much little effort i need to put in to get good results.
This is something I need to explore for myself. I'm a X100/Tensei white x guy that had to quit early last year due to wrist pain (arthritis) I've already found great results with A flex 65g/KBS PGI iron shafts. I have a tensei white S in my TSR3 right now, and planning to see how light I can go before the season starts in WI.
What a fun test! Well done. Would love to see a similar test with the Taylormade BRNR mini-driver which seems to be finding it's way into PGA Tour bags.
Love that test Boys... But why did Ian have the Autoflex SF405 in there? That's a bit light for him, Did you not have a 505 or 505x ? results might have been quite different. I have the SF505 now I might have to put it on Kiijji and order one of those Accra 3.0 140"s ... LOL I love it when a shaft even surprise you Guys,,,, Thanks for sharing,,,, Stuart
I know this is a bit of an older video, but i wanted to share my experience. I recently picked up one of these shafts used for $40. Having never tested the autoflex, i cant speak to that, but what i found with this shaft is that i hit the ball incredibly straight, however... i lost a significant amount of distance. Losing around 15 yards (especially when i only hit it 250-260 to begin with) is just not something im comfortable with. However, i never missed a fairway with it. If nothing else, this experience has shown me how badly i need to get a proper fitting.
Elite fit golf did a video on Autoflex alternatives about a year ago, I think he mentioned PX evenflow Riptide CB and Fujikura Motore X as similar EI profiles, but they are cheaper options with what appeared similar results.
Very interesting. Were both shafts 46 inches? Also, was it in fact the 48 gram MO flex that Ian hit, the extreme softest flex in the 140 category? I have seen several reviews where they used the 140 series, but in other weights and flexes, such as M4. Did you try out other slightly stiffer flexes in the 140 category? Would the results have been different? It seems you have provided the definitive answer to whether it is worth the money to elect the Autoflex: No.
Tried Autoflex xxx in a TSR3. Then tried KBS TD60 cat 2 in PXG 0311 gen 6 , same carry distance basically , same overall to 99.7% So 1 and a bit yards for £390 difference.
Been in my AF for over a year. Tried a Ventus TR Blue and it felt like a telephone pole. Dont know if I can go back now. Would like to see 150 M0 next time.
Hi boys, love the channel and content 👍🏻. You mention early in the video about using lighter swing weights with auto flex/Accra. Can you say how much you change from a standard off the rack driver weight provided (ie titleist is 9 grams on a TSR2, etc). Keep up the good work 👍🏻👍🏻
Has anyone else observed that since TXG became Club Champion, they no longer reply to comments, or at least only very rarely do. Probably a Club Champion policy. Ian is of course no longer his own boss. But still a great expert fitter, and his explanations are very educational.
Please let Mikey get a test for us normal speed guys. My TSR3 Hzrdus Gen 4 is starting to feel like a plank of wood that works incredibly well but might be missing that affordable something special in that Accra.
The thing that should be shouted about is how far apart these shafts are price-wise. In the UK the accra has to be something like 1/4 the price of Autoflex.
One addition to comment: The Accra "feels" like the Tensei Blue Stiff (55 grams) until the last foot -- which is where you get the Autoflex "whip" and speed. Damn cool b/c you can go at it full speed and don't need to try to "time your swing" as you (at least I do) on an AutoFlex. If you put the best of the AF, and the best of what the Tensei does, it would be this Accra. Damn impressed. Can't wait to use it on a straight up 9 degree Titleist TSR3 head (on A1) setting instead of a Titleist TSR3 10 degree turned down .75 on the B1 setting. Will report back if I do.
At the end of the day, most players will struggle on the course with those light and whippy setups. Look at Adam Scott and his accuracy issues under tournament conditions. A lot of things might work in the hitting bay, but most setups out of your comfort zone will be bad on the course. As for Autoflex - it’s absolutely similar to an old MRC Bassara GG. If you want an Autoflex, but think the pricetag is silly high, try to find a Bassara GG for much less.
Funny to see the ball rolling 25-30 yards… with all the rain we had lately… my ball bounce back 1 feet or 2 instead of rolling… max distance is carry distance!!!
It would be interesting to see you spend another few minutes adjusting loft and face angle on either the AF or Accra, to take advantage of the higher launch and little bit of a draw shape they both had. I.e. go down 1* of loft, open the face up a tad. Could help with the spin numbers on the AF. I built up my Ping G425 with a Grand Bassara 29R, and immediately gained something like 4* extra launch and 20-30' peak height. It allowed me to drop loft a fair bit to get my spin and peak height back to where I wanted, and got me some extra yards too.
Ian’s club head swapped increased going through the different driver setups. Do you happen to know the swing weights on each setup, and is that influential in the increased club head speed? Thank you
So out of curiosity, I have a slow/smoother take back with my driver, I love the flex or whip feeling of a shaft. I currently game a Kai'li Red 60X on a Stealth+, which is ok but still stiffer than I prefer, but would you recommend this shaft for a swing speed between 120-125? Can you feel the head load in your back swing?
Ian or Mike can you tell me if either the Autoflex or the Accra Fx 3.0 140 MO shaft were tipped before shafted/tip sleeve applied, and then butt cut to 46 inches. I'm very interested in the Accra shaft. Thank you for any reply.
Try the project x LX 60 5.5. Does something very similar to the Accra and is way more stout. Clubspeed is 108-112, this has replaced Ventus for myself and a few others.
I picked up a Autoflex in the TSr2 D0 swing weight this year after watching all your vids and it the best thing I did ,picked up an easy 25 yards with a swing speed of high 90's , now the SF 405 you are testing is for swing speeds under 95 and a swing weight in the c8 to D0 range( chart on the Autoflex site ) I see your first swing was 113mph so your not testing the optimal Autofex for your swing speed , my Auto has been a game changer for me and a few buddies that also picked it up!!!! It is not a plug and play shaft that's for sure .
Ok need advice. Ordered this shaft just to play around with. Tsr3 9*. Swing speed low 120s. Would you tip this shaft or does that defeat the whole purpose? Thanks love the videos!!
What does a dropkick typically refer to? a low spinner? I see it used in so many different situations that I don’t know what it means anymore except that it’s not great 😂
Yup, driver just skip off the ground before the upward attack angle starts. Sometimes on a firm tee box it’ll just skip hard off the turf and you won’t notice a significant loss of yardage, if any at all.
mabye a 505x would be better to test against it. I feel like you probably couldn't go after it like you did with the Accra with a 405. It's like a wet noodle
I find this quite fascinating. I currently play the 2.0 m3 and love it. The shaft you tested was a ladies flex i believe and yet you had it performing quite well .i would not expect that. I can get a 3.0 140 for 100 bucks in M,1 . I only swing at 96 or so. Maybe i should play around with it?
Except his reason for not carrying it is an emotional reason, not a data or logic reason. Hopefully you guys don’t rule out offerings because of personal vendettas. Maybe you can change his mind for me so I can test it? 😉
I have many friends that hit the AutoFlex shaft and I am not sold on the product per say, but after watching Ian hitting the driver today that I want more info. I know that beacuse of the lighter shafts the over all swing weight might be close to a D5 of higher. My friends have to make sure that their AutoFlex shaft is a much lower swing weight. So does that hold true for your Accra shaft? Does it need to be a lower swing weight? Also can I counterbalance this shaft to achieve that lower swing weight without damaging the shaft? Thank you in advance for any info that you can give me about the shaft and the buildup would be appreciated.
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Mikey really should have been the one doing the test since he actually plays the AutoFlex.
Im gaming the Accra now in Long Drive after previously using the Autoflex. Most impressive thing is as Ian saying its very stable when getting after it.
Thanks for this. I've put this shaft in the bag and I've seen similar results you got. Good bye xstiff shaft and hello longer and in the fairway. You guys are the best.
Ian's big smile and "I Really like it!" say it all. At this rate Ian, every 3 months or so we are going to need a WITG review 😀
LOL You mean Every 3 Weeks !!!!
Finally got my Accra shaft in. Originally had at 46 in and couldn’t find the center of face. Cut down to 45 inches and paired it with Ai Smoke Max. Got Sw to D0. Easiest and Most Consistent driver shaft I have ever owned. Thanks for the Video saved me 600 USD.
you guys are the best! You turned me on to the PXG black ops and I went with accra shaft and it is amazing!
I got fitted for an AreoJet with the Accra TZ5 shaft and it’s an absolute weapon. Do not sleep on Accra.
I have a slow SS (85) and was fit for an AF SF405 (not at TXG). Played it for a year. Found that I had to swing really smooth to get it to perform. Have talked to others with same issue. Switched to Tensei Blue 65 stiff and really like that I can swing as hard as I want.
Would have loved to have a 5min longer Video and also see a comparison of Mikeys numbers (his autoflex vs accra).
Try the Fuji Speeder NX Green in the 40g or 50 g . Very similar to the accra you just tested where the Speeder NX blue is more in line with autoflex. I got 181 mph ball speed multiple times but more importantly kept them in play.
MobileClubMaker and Mr Shortgame tested cheaper options to AF and showed really good results with the Evenflow Riptide Cb in senior flex. Based on that I got a $50 Evenflow Riptide CB in stiff 45.5 and instantly improved my strike pattern and trajectory. Felt whippy compared to the 44 hzrdus I had been playing but still stable. I was a little scared to go all out in the A flex
Did same only 46 inches
Hi i built this shaft approx 250 cdn dollars and it works well for my swing. I seem to be tighter dispersion than my stiff driver shaft…. Not sure how?? I dont think i gained much distance but i like how much little effort i need to put in to get good results.
Ian and Mikey, fabulous duo. Two very nice guys. I love these videos.
This is something I need to explore for myself. I'm a X100/Tensei white x guy that had to quit early last year due to wrist pain (arthritis) I've already found great results with A flex 65g/KBS PGI iron shafts. I have a tensei white S in my TSR3 right now, and planning to see how light I can go before the season starts in WI.
what would the difference be between the M0 and M1 model?
What a fun test! Well done. Would love to see a similar test with the Taylormade BRNR mini-driver which seems to be finding it's way into PGA Tour bags.
You should throw the brava in there as well as comparison
Will you guys please take a look at Padderson shafts and see what you think about them?
Pretty crazy video considering the owner of club champion was on the last podcast trashing auto flex and calling it auto scam ??
Love that test Boys... But why did Ian have the Autoflex SF405 in there? That's a bit light for him, Did you not have a 505 or 505x ? results might have been quite different. I have the SF505 now I might have to put it on Kiijji and order one of those Accra 3.0 140"s ... LOL I love it when a shaft even surprise you Guys,,,, Thanks for sharing,,,, Stuart
Love this! ACCRA is a great product. Great Company as well.
ordered an M1..i love this shaft!!!
My brother has some Accras - absolutely loves them
I know this is a bit of an older video, but i wanted to share my experience. I recently picked up one of these shafts used for $40. Having never tested the autoflex, i cant speak to that, but what i found with this shaft is that i hit the ball incredibly straight, however... i lost a significant amount of distance. Losing around 15 yards (especially when i only hit it 250-260 to begin with) is just not something im comfortable with. However, i never missed a fairway with it. If nothing else, this experience has shown me how badly i need to get a proper fitting.
I agree with Mikey. Ian will be messing with a build with that shaft. And so will I!😊
Yeah would like to see Mikey get after it.
Just one thing AutoFlex say if you swing 115 plus you should be in AutoFlex 505 x not 405. Please try AutoFlex 505x for Us. Thanks
Elite fit golf did a video on Autoflex alternatives about a year ago, I think he mentioned PX evenflow Riptide CB and Fujikura Motore X as similar EI profiles, but they are cheaper options with what appeared similar results.
Elite Fit AKA ‘Mobile Clubmaker’ out of Decatur Georgia.
I tried a Riptide CB and didn’t enjoy it. One of those shafts that I lost control of anytime I went after it. Play a Ventus TR Blue now and I love it
Very interesting. Were both shafts 46 inches? Also, was it in fact the 48 gram MO flex that Ian hit, the extreme softest flex in the 140 category? I have seen several reviews where they used the 140 series, but in other weights and flexes, such as M4. Did you try out other slightly stiffer flexes in the 140 category? Would the results have been different? It seems you have provided the definitive answer to whether it is worth the money to elect the Autoflex: No.
Tried Autoflex xxx in a TSR3. Then tried KBS TD60 cat 2 in PXG 0311 gen 6 , same carry distance basically , same overall to 99.7% So 1 and a bit yards for £390 difference.
What would you expect the Accra shaft to do for a negative attack angle player ? (102 swing speed 3k spin 7-8 launch )
Dont hit down on the ball… learn to hit up
@@MrTthaha oh ok, why didn't he think of that before? PSHHHHH
@@stepyourgameupplaya9360 because bad
Enjoyed the idea, thank you. Very interesting overall numbers. This is a great idea, I may have to get the ACCRA just for something fun.
A friend of mine has the AutoFlex 505 that I hit really well. Which ACCRA 3.0 compares to that?
Since the 150 does not come in an M0 flex I would love to see the results for the M1 in this series.
Another good review.
I’m now thinking of acquiring one of these.
Did you “spine” this shaft and do you recommend?
Been in my AF for over a year. Tried a Ventus TR Blue and it felt like a telephone pole. Dont know if I can go back now. Would like to see 150 M0 next time.
Love my TR Blue in 5R, TR plays stiffer than Velocore
noooooooooooo, the rebrand ... whyyy?!
Hi boys, love the channel and content 👍🏻. You mention early in the video about using lighter swing weights with auto flex/Accra. Can you say how much you change from a standard off the rack driver weight provided (ie titleist is 9 grams on a TSR2, etc). Keep up the good work 👍🏻👍🏻
When did club Champion carry Autoflex? I don’t remember this?
Has anyone else observed that since TXG became Club Champion, they no longer reply to comments, or at least only very rarely do. Probably a Club Champion policy. Ian is of course no longer his own boss. But still a great expert fitter, and his explanations are very educational.
Hey John! We're still replying to comments here! We love answering questions and shouting people out for their comments. Thanks for watching!
I love Accra. I have always gotten fit for them when available. Great stuff. This video deserves a like
Please let Mikey get a test for us normal speed guys. My TSR3 Hzrdus Gen 4 is starting to feel like a plank of wood that works incredibly well but might be missing that affordable something special in that Accra.
The thing that should be shouted about is how far apart these shafts are price-wise. In the UK the accra has to be something like 1/4 the price of Autoflex.
How does the accra compare to the new Mitsubishi vanquish?
Is this shaft available on your txgstore?? I dont see it.
Curious as to why these lightweight high flex shafts don't increase spin dramatically.
Swinging it well, Ian!
Hi Guys, i bought the accra driver. Seems like head is heavy. Did you guys lose some head weight when testing? What was the swingweight?
Think we need a video of a auto flex optimized for Ian see what his max potential is with it maybe a 405x even ?
Would love to see how it performs in the hands of a 95-100 mph swinger.
One addition to comment: The Accra "feels" like the Tensei Blue Stiff (55 grams) until the last foot -- which is where you get the Autoflex "whip" and speed. Damn cool b/c you can go at it full speed and don't need to try to "time your swing" as you (at least I do) on an AutoFlex. If you put the best of the AF, and the best of what the Tensei does, it would be this Accra. Damn impressed. Can't wait to use it on a straight up 9 degree Titleist TSR3 head (on A1) setting instead of a Titleist TSR3 10 degree turned down .75 on the B1 setting. Will report back if I do.
Curious to see a video similar to this but with fairway woods or driving/utility irons
At the end of the day, most players will struggle on the course with those light and whippy setups. Look at Adam Scott and his accuracy issues under tournament conditions. A lot of things might work in the hitting bay, but most setups out of your comfort zone will be bad on the course. As for Autoflex - it’s absolutely similar to an old MRC Bassara GG. If you want an Autoflex, but think the pricetag is silly high, try to find a Bassara GG for much less.
Funny to see the ball rolling 25-30 yards… with all the rain we had lately… my ball bounce back 1 feet or 2 instead of rolling… max distance is carry distance!!!
Try the Fujikura Motore X F3 5 R2 flex next?
and at $60 the graph pro launch blue 45 grams and senior stiffness
Yes! The OttoPhlex crew is swinging strong strong these days! 😜
When’s the vid coming on the DG X100 and KBS tour 130x steel shaft ball flight/peak height comparison?! ❤
It would be interesting to see you spend another few minutes adjusting loft and face angle on either the AF or Accra, to take advantage of the higher launch and little bit of a draw shape they both had. I.e. go down 1* of loft, open the face up a tad. Could help with the spin numbers on the AF. I built up my Ping G425 with a Grand Bassara 29R, and immediately gained something like 4* extra launch and 20-30' peak height. It allowed me to drop loft a fair bit to get my spin and peak height back to where I wanted, and got me some extra yards too.
That's what I did with Autoflex. Straightened out the flight, dropped spin & added even more ball speed. In the bag two years now.
Still use my autoflex. It's been pretty good to me.
Ian’s club head swapped increased going through the different driver setups. Do you happen to know the swing weights on each setup, and is that influential in the increased club head speed? Thank you
Did you guys adjust the swing weights in the softer shafts?
I would like to know as well.
Pretty impressive test. Love to give one of these a whirl!
So out of curiosity, I have a slow/smoother take back with my driver, I love the flex or whip feeling of a shaft. I currently game a Kai'li Red 60X on a Stealth+, which is ok but still stiffer than I prefer, but would you recommend this shaft for a swing speed between 120-125? Can you feel the head load in your back swing?
What’s the proper weight and flex on the Accra FX matrix for a typical 6-Stiff type of person?
The craze of Autoflex DID start in that building ….
Ian or Mike can you tell me if either the Autoflex or the Accra Fx 3.0 140 MO shaft were tipped before shafted/tip sleeve applied, and then butt cut to 46 inches. I'm very interested in the Accra shaft. Thank you for any reply.
Try the project x LX 60 5.5. Does something very similar to the Accra and is way more stout. Clubspeed is 108-112, this has replaced Ventus for myself and a few others.
Is this the red evenflow riptide shaft?
Any more info on exact shaft?
Could this also be done with other cheaper ladies-flex counter balance shafts?
Curious how the profile of the Accra compares to the old Aldila NVS.
Throw Brava into the mix
Quick question what length did you play the Accra ar?
So I game a Ventus TR black 7x. Would love to try this set up to see if it would increase swing and ball speed. About 113-115 with gamer
👀 when Ian hit that 300 yard carrry with Accra.
It is the unicorn conditions of ~17* dynamic loft & ~1700rpm of spin.
I picked up a Autoflex in the TSr2 D0 swing weight this year after watching all your vids and it the best thing I did ,picked up an easy 25 yards with a swing speed of high 90's , now the SF 405 you are testing is for swing speeds under 95 and a swing weight in the c8 to D0 range( chart on the Autoflex site ) I see your first swing was 113mph so your not testing the optimal Autofex for your swing speed , my Auto has been a game changer for me and a few buddies that also picked it up!!!! It is not a plug and play shaft that's for sure .
Did you change the head weight when you went from the stock setup to autoflex/accra fx tests?
Brava is also a competitor.😮
You guys are going to have to test the TPT Nitro in a 17 Hi
Really interesting! 👍
Ok need advice. Ordered this shaft just to play around with. Tsr3 9*. Swing speed low 120s. Would you tip this shaft or does that defeat the whole purpose? Thanks love the videos!!
How did it go?
@@TheTurbomopar it is my gamer. Actually talked to Ryan got some advice from him absolutely love it, but it did force me to focus on tempo
Would still love to see the project X even Flow CB 40g 4.0 tested in this same manner.
In which color?
@@seanpeacock5595 Even Flow Blue CB. Many golf forums have listed it and the Graffaloy pro launch blue 40g L or A flex as poor man’s Autoflexes.
@@erock1070 you really wanna fall down a rabbit hole, search for OttoPhlex and see what comes up.
You guys gotta start comparing accra stuff more often they are super good shafts and there is little to no info out there
When can we see the vanquish vs AF vs Accra?
What’s the CPM of both shafts?
Fascinating
And there goes Accra’s M0 inventory 😂
M0 is ladys flex in Accra. I surprised the shaft doesn't just spray the ball all over the place swing that fast.
What does a dropkick typically refer to? a low spinner? I see it used in so many different situations that I don’t know what it means anymore except that it’s not great 😂
Typically it just means that you hit the ground before you hit your ball on a drive.
Yup, driver just skip off the ground before the upward attack angle starts. Sometimes on a firm tee box it’ll just skip hard off the turf and you won’t notice a significant loss of yardage, if any at all.
Hit the new gx 140 m0, first swing it broke ! :/
I also see no comments from TXG in regards to the questions below. Are we wasting our time asking?
What Accra fx model would be similar to the 505x
Probably 150 M3
@@clubchampionmedia do you think someone looking for distance and would like to play a draw to go 140 m1 or do the 150 m3
Can someone please do a fujikura vs auto flex comparison?
mabye a 505x would be better to test against it. I feel like you probably couldn't go after it like you did with the Accra with a 405. It's like a wet noodle
I find this quite fascinating. I currently play the 2.0 m3 and love it. The shaft you tested was a ladies flex i believe and yet you had it performing quite well .i would not expect that.
I can get a 3.0 140 for 100 bucks in M,1 . I only swing at 96 or so. Maybe i should play around with it?
Where can you get it for $100. I want one
@@wgrooms719i dont think you can get the latest version fx3 for 100 bux maybe fx 2 or lower. I got this shaft for 250 cdn with taylormade tip.
Is this the 100, 200, or 300 series?
140 is 100 series bro :) lol
“FUN” WITB approval ?
I wonder how CC feels about you guys’ love affair with AutoFlex. Nick (CC owner) is on record saying he’ll never carry it in his shops
It’s not an issue. Our demo offerings are very similar, they carry some things that we don’t and vice versa.
Except his reason for not carrying it is an emotional reason, not a data or logic reason. Hopefully you guys don’t rule out offerings because of personal vendettas.
Maybe you can change his mind for me so I can test it? 😉
No Canadian Hidden Technology, (C.Hi.T), maybe it has the Scottish Hidden Technology, lol
Can you not brand as TXG by Club Champion? Seems a shame to throw away that recognition.
I have many friends that hit the AutoFlex shaft and I am not sold on the product per say, but after watching Ian hitting the driver today that I want more info.
I know that beacuse of the lighter shafts the over all swing weight might be close to a D5 of higher. My friends have to make sure that their AutoFlex shaft is a much lower swing weight. So does that hold true for your Accra shaft? Does it need to be a lower swing weight? Also can I counterbalance this shaft to achieve that lower swing weight without damaging the shaft?
Thank you in advance for any info that you can give me about the shaft and the buildup would be appreciated.
Now hit it in a 140 m3 or m4 and compare please.
...txg is no more?🤔
Has me thinking...... My HZDRS Red 6.0 is feeling awfully "plank-y" these days.