Hagrid left a colony of killer spiders in the forest next to the school.... also there's that tree that can punch you to death....isn't there a cracken in the lake too? At least the basilisk was locked up....
@@tk56556 but seriously where was he supposed to go he's not brave ambitious cunning intelligent or gods forbid it loyal I think he was sorted on what he valued rather then what he already possessed besides every house has its fair share of duds I mean you really think I want Crabbe and Goyle in my house?
One thing that always bothered me in the HP series was how people seemed to discriminate against Slytherin house-especially when they did it to Slytherin children. I mean, if you treat a group of 11 year olds like they're monsters-in-the-making for the whole of their schooling lives, then they will probably start acting like it. That said: #Ravenclaw4Life
so true! it's so unfair to them! like, slytherin traits are actually pretty cool and it's just unfortunate that a lot of dark wizards and witches came from that house. except the biggest traitor, who was a gryffindor. i have the same issues with telling hufflepuffs they're, to quote hagrid, "duffers". like. . .what's wrong with being a hufflepuff? i'm also a ravenclaw btw
I’m mostly Slytherin but have Hufflepuff traits and I’m here to say that you’re 100% right. I’m the type that cares about my friends to the point where I’ll do anything to protect them and my family. And I mean like anything. And if they’re in trouble then I’ll do anything to help them out. So I embody both traits fairly well.
@@amdraglover i think that would fall under fraternity. . .a slytherin trait. even the sorting hat says you find true friends in slytherin and i'm pretty sure if the other houses were nicer to slytherin they would be a part of that.
The Sox Box true. I didn’t even think about that part lol. I had taken a test that has all Pottermore questions to get your percents and my highest was as I said, Slytherin and a few points under it was Hufflepuff.
I can defend the basilisk. Muggles were a real threat back in his time. Remember the suits of armor that defended the castle at the battle of Hogwarts. It's been 1000 years I can promise history hasn't be kept 100% accurately. He may have not liked muggleborns but the fact that he never killed any is HUGE in proof of his character. He also had the sense to make sure the basilisk was locked up and no one who couldn't control it could get to it. Purely to keep the students safe. I'm sure if it was needed for defense from outside invasion it would come to defend the students. I could make a video in this defense but... 🤷
You know who's a good example of a HEALTHY SLYTHERIN? Hiro Okumura - from 'Isekai Word Cheat', the Manga... He likes Books a lot, so you think first of Ravenclaw, but then you realize that: no, he's actually a Slytherin. A very, very healthy one. He's always thinking of his own benefit, but in a very healthy way, that is rather hard to describe. He's affecting everyone, but not manipulating anyone, if you get what i mean. He's also teaching people being polite - in a very rude manner though (lol)... He's practical and teaches people that most importantly. Mercy, Kindness and all that are indeed Positive BUT you can also NOT EXPECT them - you need to pay people for their work, for example. And that's just a summary about him.
Not only did we only ever see the basilisk under Voldemort's control, but even then it still doesn't eat anyone. No offense to its stony gaze, but if it was as interested in killing as the one controlling it was, it could have put in a lot more effort than it did. On top of the defense argument, his wand also used part of a basilisk as its core. It's possible that he wanted to keep the basilisk close at hand in order to use some aspect of it as an ingredient in potions or for crafter other wands. The basilisk is also accessed through the bathrooms. According to the Harry Potter wiki, plumbing was added to Hogwarts in the 1800s. Either someone found the basilisk when renovating a bathroom and chose to hide it behind a fake sink or the basilisk was added at that time. It feels just as likely that one of his descendants decided the idea of Slytherin's monster was a cool idea that they should make reality.
If we take the view that Salazar slytherin's monster was there sort of as an insurance policy. I think the phrase "Purge the school of Mugglesborns" is really what makes it a problem. Now if he had told his Heir something to the effect of "If the muggle-borns ever betray the school, unleashed the monster." At that point it would be a lot more possible...it would be like having a strategic nuclear Arsenal that you really don't intend to use cuz you really don't want to Have to use it. After all when Hogwarts was retrofitted to have Plumbing the heir of Slytherin only really concealed the entrance. He didn't take the opportunity to unleash the snake on the school.
well for all we know maybe you are right and he did somethiong to that effect and then over the generations and possibly a descendant or two also being named salazar slytherin somewhere down the line it became purge the school of muggleborns instead of unleash the monster if the muggleborn ever betray the school (whoch while understandable is still a wrong and biased sentence and practically asking for a muggleborn to betray the school)
@@misaki4119 true But it has long been speculated by the fan base have long speculated that there was some kind of war between Wizards and Muggles at some point. It could easily be the founders fought in the War and I personally believe Slytherin was probably a little bit older than the other Founders. so they may have has less exposure to the fighting. I mean godric Gryffindor had a sword for crying out loud so it's clear he had combat skills also. but if you think of Slytherin being sort the older end of a generation that fought in the War and Gryffindor being on the younger end like maybe only catching the last year of the war when he was old enough to actually fight in it. You can start to see the difference of perspective. It is biased and by modern standards very wrong. But if JK Rowling ever reveals that something like this scenario I have proposed is true. Then everything would make a lot more since. If we compare it to Wars within the 20th century we could say that Salazar Slytherin would be like someone who'd fought in Gulf War 1 and Godric Gryffindor would have been part of Gulf War Two or the war on terror that has followed it. They're both veterans in that sense they both have skills in martial Magic. The persecutions of witches and wizards from their time in history in the real timeline are more than enough justification for them to have the skills. But if there was also a full-scale war that has yet to be written about by JK Rowling. It would make more sense why the biases exist and that the wizarding world did not find those that hold that oppions to be so vial that they face being ostracized. That's the real problem in all of this it seems like holding these pure-blooded supremacist views is just a normal accepted part of Wizarding Society. There has to be something in the history of their society that makes that seem like a perfectly reasonable stand to have. A little fring but mostly harmless. at one point in the series it's even suggested that Arthur Weasley has an insufficient amount of pride in being a wizard. This implies that A Little Bit Stronger attachment to his own people in The Wizarding World would be expected then the attitude Arthur displays. Societies for sub cultures that have undergone a lot of persecution tend to have these much more close-knit in-group out-group worldviews and social ties. Under this scenario it also makes more sense why it doesn't bother Godric Gryffindor is much to teach muggle-born students. One thing that JK Rowling has never explained about the Wizarding World and then I'm kind of curious about is what would happen if muggle parents refused to allow their student to go to Hogwarts. As long as they didn't do something horrible like Mary Lou barebone and force the child to repress their magic and they just were smart enough to learn to control it on their own. Does the magical community just leave them alone. Or does the magical world have a way of literally forcing them to give up the child if they're not going to cooperate? Something parallel to the Star Wars Universe where Jedi had the right to just take a Force gifted child. We have seen that the Muggle world really wants nothing to do with magic in the Harry Potter universe. And the Wizards are clearly not above modifying memories for all kinds of trivial things. Like Harry blowing up his aunt. Or even just mad Eye Moody being known to freak out and call the muggle cops about intruders. You have to imagine that the local muggle police around Mad Eye Moody's place had to have their memories erased pretty frequently. Point being anytime there is a total separation between one group of people and another. The group that is forced to go into hiding or isolation is going to have resentment. And depending on what the historical justifications that resentment is you get very different versions of The Wizarding World. If being a pureblood elitist was understood than the rest of Wizarding Society to be as bad as Harry anf the Weasleys think it is it wouldn't have lasted for very long within their culture. Something had to have happen at some point to once have Justified it.
As someone above stated, what if Salazar had a vision of Moldevort and wanted to exclude the halfbloods from the school because of him, you know the old phrasing " for the greater good" if he can exclude a century of born halfbloods just to be able to keep Moldevort of the school in number is actually less deaths than the Dark Lord and entourage made in his reign of terror and he was not listened to by the other 3 colleges: helga Puffy , Boaster Griggy and Smarty Claw. ( griffindor here)
Personally, I like to imagine Salazar Slytherin just sort of snapping and creating the chamber in a fit of rage. (He was an extremely powerful wizard, after all. He could probably have done that) Like, he got in one too many arguments with his fellow house-heads, something went wrong and they actually came to blows, then he created the chamber, and left the school. Then, after quite a while, he cooled off and realized that leaving a monster in a school for 11 year olds might have been a bit of a mistake, but by then, relationships had soured with his old friends enough that he couldn't go back and undo his mistake. Then, he spend the rest of his life regretting his actions. I don't think Salazar Slytherin was an evil man. I think he was a human man.
You know who's a good example of a HEALTHY SLYTHERIN? Hiro Okumura - from 'Isekai Word Cheat', the Manga. He likes Books a lot, so you think first of Ravenclaw, but then you realize that: no, he's actually a Slytherin. A very, very healthy one. He's always thinking of his own benefit, but in a very healthy way, that is rather hard to describe. He's affecting everyone, but not manipulating anyone, if you get what i mean. He's also teaching people being polite - in a very rude manner though (lol)... He's practical and teaches people that most importantly. Mercy, Kindness and all that are indeed Positive BUT you can also NOT EXPECT them - you need to pay people for their work, for example. And that's just a summary about him.
I forget, how exactly do we learn of the Basilisk's purpose?.... If it was just from Tom Riddle, then it is possible it could be a case of Unreliable narrator, and that it actually has a different purpose (protect the school in times of emergencies?), but Tomas either lied or misinterpreted the meaning. Maybe he thought "protect it from muggle born/half-bloods if to many come in" when it was actually "Protect from muggles in case they find the school and march an army with power weapons like guns".
yes but this is after the original attacks 50 years previous they may have coloured the legends telling especially if Riddle left messages back then like he did the second time.
@@sfsin3380 yes and after thousands of years it's truly also a case of the game telephone, where you whisper something to someone and by the end of the chain it probably will have lost its original meaning
It could be to protect the school from any kind of thing, even goblins could make a siege on the school and would be troublesome, imagine how easy to win a war when you have all the children of your enemys at disposal.
I always thought that Salazar Slytherin left the basilisk in the dungeons as last defense for the desperate situation: should the school be under attack and lives of the students in grave danger. Also, yes, he was paranoid about Muggle-born students because they potentially could have blurted out something to their families or be tricked to reveal the secret of the school. He thought they couldn’t afford the risk of divided loyalty when they had the responsibility to protect the lives of the children in dangerous and ruthless times. Paranoia is one of the key traits for every Slytherin and it made the difference between life and death more than once for Snape and Slughorn, for example. Years after, those two facts became distorted and tangled up into this whole “ethnic cleansing” horror story. Did Slytherin hurt any of the Muggle-born students in his life? Why would he leave the snake behind to do it later? Doesn’t make any sense. Mind you, the basilisk was obedient and listened to his instructions. Moreover, it was safely hidden for a thousand years, and no one could find it. No one, for a thousand years. Despite multiple attempts and thorough examinations of the school by talented wizards. Except one arrogant little s**t who happened to have a gift of parseltongue, had his own ideas, and used the snake to his own ends, marring the name of the entire House. But still, a horrible monster, within the school walls, tsk-tsk-tsk. You know who else smuggled a horrible monster inside the school? Not for protection, but because he thought it was cute. Not locked up and hidden, but out on the loose. Not isolated, obedient and kept in-check, but with a mate and procreating like there’s no tomorrow, creating an army of out-of-control man-eating monsters. Not hundreds of years ago, but in modern times? Right you are - Hagrid. I still don’t get how Slytherin is evil for being cautions and safely hiding a basilisk for protection of the students, and Hagrid is lovable for being careless and breading a horde of giant spiders within the school grounds. Either they both are wrong for endangering other people or they both get a pass for their ultimately good intentions (or just the lack of bad ones in Hagrid’s case?)
Nah, I'm still thinking that he was fine with muggleborns per say, but didn't like peasants, a very common attitude at the time, and also given the wealth distribution at the time, something like 99% of muggleborns would have been peasants, and there would have been the very occasional muggleborn born to the nobles classes who he would have been more than fine with, but history forgot that bit. The basilisk you say? Well, we know that each of the founders contributed something, and that Slytherin's was the chamber, but I don't think it would have been a secret at the time, otherwise the other three would have kept pestering him about what he was going to add. So the founders knew about the chamber, and be extension, the basilisk, but the basilisk wasn't to defend against muggleborns, but to defend against invaders in general, because, again, at the time, "politics" equals "who has the biggest sword", and a basilisk is a pretty good sword. It wasn't Slytherin's fault that his descendants told it to attack students. Considering how well spread the rumours were of the muggleborn killing monster, Tom Riddle quite possibly wasn't even the first one to get to the chamber. We know parselmouth is hereditary from Slytherin's line, chances are SOMEONE managed to find it. Also, the new set is nice :)
you are probably right, but the other founders not knowing seems less likely to me than the other founders knowing and history forgetting that fact as the chamber was hidden from the general populace.@@super3saiyan
@@elizabethlowes6501 I just did some research and read about the Chamber on Pottermore, and it IS stated that they didn't know. It also said that they each left their marks in their own houses and picked their own places for the houses, except Salazar who took it a bit "further" and created the chamber. Read about it on Pottermore.
My question is if four founders are in charge of constructing a castle to house the future of their people, why does every one think only one of them left a chamber of secrets. No one knew about Slytherin’s little buddy until Harry came along and killed it so there could well be three other large hidden halls on the grounds. In fact I would be hella surprised if the other founders dI not do this.
So, there's a chamber somewhere in the castle with a giant badger? And when something important is lost, the heir of Hufflepuff will release the badger to help find it? (I know the finding things isn't canon, but it's very much fanon)
Robin Ludvig Isomaa or there’s a huge swarm of tiny badgers that all come out to steal things and when they finally find that chamber they will find a HUGE mountainous pile of things people thought were lost.
Isn't this what at least the room of requirement is? I don't know if there's any knowledge on that, but I always imagined it being built by either Ravenclaw or Gryffindor.
Im not sure if it's cannonically explaind or not, but is the *chamber* of secrets really actuallly built by Salazar Slytherin or did he only put his basilisk there? Wasn't it just some old sewer system that got lost on the maps when they built newer toilets? I mean that's how Harry finds out about it, he hears its voice through the walls. I dont think Slytherin built a whole tunnel system throughout the school, pretty sure it is in the books that they are just old sewer tunnels.
The other founders were more open and wanted to work together. Slytherin wanted everything his way and was furious the others would not do what he wanted. So he hid the chamber of secrets so he could have his way one day when it was opened and all muggle borns were forced out or killed.
I kinda think maybe the real reason for the basilisk wasn't for the outright indiscriminate killing of muggle borns, but was kind of a safe guard. Like Jay said, the relationship between wizards and muggles was probably very bad at the time. A muggle born student would have been brought up with 11 years worth of hate and prejudice against wizards. Slytherin probably feared they wouldn't be able to overcome that upbringing, and may someday join together to destroy the school and everyone in it, in a suicide type mission to wipe out something they considered to be evil. He could have put it there to help the wizards in their time of need. Obviously that never happened, and as time went on even his descendants forgot the true purpose of the basilisk, and because wizards stopped fearing muggles and the supremacist attitude started seeping in, its purpose got twisted from a safeguard to a tool for genocide as it slowly passed into legend.
Hang on the two bottom symbols you put up are different. The snake and stick (without without wings is symbol of Asclepius and the double snake with wings is actually a symbol of Hermes.
Even Harry reassures his kid that being in Slytherin doesn’t make you a bad person and that he knows a very brave person (Snape) who was sorted into Slytherin
they put the kid who was probably best suited to hufflepuff but was put in gryffindor on the slytherin cover. I'll give you a million better characters, Try Dumbledore(lets be real) any non Sirius member of the black family (ANDROMEDA PLEASE) Draco malfoy, if you wanna stick with the evil motif may I suggest Voldemort himself since you know, he was actually a slytherin
You really can't judge the poor snake and its original owner by what Tim Riddle said. And while I understand that the extended info on Pottermore is trying to flesh everything out according to the books the worst Slytherin was was someone go was trying to protect his people, for all we know the reason he did not want muggleborns in the school was because at the time only the wealthy were educated and he did not want to have to teach the abcs and 123s to them as well as magic.
In defense of Slytherin muggles were burning wizards and witch's at the time. Also torturing anyone related to magic, like a mudbloods family for information.
They did not. That started in the early 15th century primarily, which is why the international statue of wizarding secrecy was created in 1689-1692. At the time of Slytherin most muggles and witches were friendly, even the Malfoys lived amongst muggles and had no dislike for them.
The harry potter wiki says this: "Until the passing of the International Statute of Wizarding Secrecy in 1692, the Malfoys integrated themselves in high-class Muggle society. Though hotly denied by subsequent generations, there is ample evidence to suggest that the first Lucius Malfoy was an unsuccessful aspirant to the hand of Elizabeth I, and some wizarding historians allege that the Queen's subsequent opposition to marriage was due to a jinx placed upon her by the thwarted Malfoy.[9] The Malfoys expanded their already large estate with the lands of their Muggle neighbours, and dabbled successfully into Muggle currency and assets, becoming one of the wealthiest families in wizarding Britain. Though they opposed the Statute of Secrecy at first, they soon embraced it and cut off all ties with Muggle families, denying that they had ever fraternised with such people." I know that the wiki cannot always be trusted but i am too tired to find the actual sources for what is said again.
Alex Zheng it only does that because of its power(?)( I don’t know if that’s the best word) and the even though it can the basilisk was more of a feeling of insecurity and thinking it was the best way to save the wizard-ing community. He might have felt the need to protect the collective considering that life was not that well of witches and wizards alike. So...
what if, Salazar was really fond of his pet snake, like hagrid and aragog, and created the chamber to keep it with him without causing any harm to others... later when his friendship fell appart he left the school making a dramatic not-really-meant-to threat, because he kept the chamber well hidden for anybody else to find... Not until tom riddle sought it out an actually act upon it... does it make sense? just saying :)
He would have destroyed immediately if Harry didn't have his own soul. Harry is the easiest horcrux to get destroyed but the slowest one because he was living creature unlike other which were enchanted with curse.
I’m not in slitherin myself but here’s what I think: To be evil it’s all about perspective and point of view, for example a wizard who is trying to do good, but from the others perspective they see that wizard as doing evil. My point is to be even considered evil it’s all about perspective of where you lie, like there’s no such thing as good and evil. I know this comment is total hippie thing so sorry for that! Have a great day though!
Right at this day, great people of the past can be seen as sexist or racist or things like that despite them being totally good people in their time. As time change peoples ideas, so does our morality and our concepts of good and evil. It's a human invention after all, and it's taught differently in each time period and region.
I'm a Ravenclaw and I leave giant poisonous snakes in the basement all the time. (Seriously tho, if I wasn't placed in Ravenclaw I would've been in Slytherin and I would've been happy either way)
@TheWeeaboo Ohoho, I'm pretty sure I should've been in Slytherin because all and I mean ALL my friends thought I'd be in Slytherin, *heck, even I thought I was gonna be a Slytherin* but it turned out I was wrong. But boy o' boy am I glad that I got sorted into my favourite house, and apparently I'm smart, yay?
I think what people always overlook is the relationship between the magical world and the muggles i think it was more trying to protect his world as you put it
What I find interesting about the chamber is that it almost seem like a tempel built in the honor of Slytherin, possibly built by someone other than Slytherin himself. I mean, you have to have rather large ego to build a tempel-like chamber complete with a full-lenght statue of yourself... That and if we are to trust JK, someone other than Slytherin had to make the entrence which Harry uses since the bathroom came long after Slytherin.
No, I don't believe Sal was 'evil' per se, he just had different morals. I can understand why the purebloods were a bit miffed with having Muggle-borns coming into 'their' world. If you step into their shoes, they are watching the Muggleborns come into the wizarding world and change quite a bit. Thinking back, not many muggleborns are ready to accept the pureblood customs and culture. Take Hermione for example, I love her to bits don't get me wrong, but she was so quick to assume the house elves were 'enslaved', yes some were treated poorly. Yet most of the elves need the magic and power of the house they serve in order to stay alive. But Hermione most likely had immediately thought of 'slavery' instead of researching the science, or in this case magic. Yes, she asked a few of the Gryffindor purebloods, but keep in mind that most of them have abandoned pureblood customs in favor of the new muggle ones that the muggle-borns carry in. I believe this is the reason that magical and Muggles aren't allowed to marry in America, so that they may keep the old customs alive for as long as they can. Anywhoooo, that is just my opinion/theory! No hate on Muggle-borns, or anyone for that matter! :)
So there is two main issues. The first being the Muggle/Magic divide. The second being the muggleborn magic user. The magic and muggle divide is clearly an issue. If you cannot guarantee the safety of the people there, you aren't creating the right environment. The muggleborn situation is much more complex because it works on good faith. You are going to put trust into muggles to keep a secret that at any point they could turn around and reveal you. Is it any real wonder he put a basilisk in the chamber. At his time, those two scenarios could very easily be the end of the wizarding community he was trying to build. Who can really say when he intended his heir to purge the school. Also I don't know if this is a typo but on the wiki page for Salazar, it says he mistrusted muggleborns. Meaning they did something to break that trust. Although JK Rowling has gone on to say that he is named after fascist dictator António de Oliveira Salazar who ruled over Portugal and happens to be where JK lived for several years.
Voldemort is like the most evil and he is the only one who is so evil that he can go on to do the unspeakable to make the horcrux. The process is gory but never revealed. A publisher nearly puked when JK told it to her.
Fun fact: fear of wizards/witches and their persecution did not start until late 15th century. It was certainly not a medieval phenomenon. It wouldn't have been a concern during the time Hogwarts was founded.
@Shealyne Anglin four years is extremely new, don't mean to be mean or anything like that, I was geniunly welcoming you guys hahaha Harry Potter Universal s awesome!! And nice to meet you too!
I thought Gryffindor bought and paid for the sword and the only reason the goblins are angry now is because it was passed along his bloodline after his death rather then returned to them which technically is due to some culture shock from differences in inheritance laws between witches/wizards and goblins.
I say no, the whole reason for Hogwarts was to protect witches and wizards from the muggles who were slaughtering them. The fact that the others thought it was ok to bring muggle borns in Hogwarts was very hypocritical and should’ve listened to Slytherin.
Wouldn't having untrained wizards roaming around the world be even worst? If muggle borns were never educated and trained in wizarding school, wouldn't their magic just be out of control and revealed to the muggles?
Sorry to bring this topic up, but it fits so well. When the zombie apocalypse strikes, do you pen a few zombies up on the off chance that Advil is the cure, or do you simply finish them off and move on? The same can be said with Slytherin and Muggle-born witches and wizards. In a time where non magic folks were actively persecuting the magical world, Slytherin probably viewed the situation as an "end of days" scenario
It's still not okay, but I think that Slytherin trained the basilisk extensively for curable petrification, to provide a scare and a warning. There's just too many "lucky coincidences" where someone is looking at a reflective surface or through a transparent thing for it to not be intentional. Myrtle was just an accident, because she was literally right at the entrance and the basilisk realized too late. Or it's plot armor. It could always be plot armor but that's no fun.
Has anyone noticed how the color green seems to have a prominent place in the wizarding world? When we first meet Monganagle, we see her in Green robes. Green robes seem to be ever-present in the world for dress robes. Harry's eyes, and his mother's, are green. The avada cadavra curse is a green light....many characters in the series wear green, irrespective of house affiliation, especially in the first two books [Dumbledore wears green dress robes at the Tri-Wizard ball I think]. Green is the color of Slytherin. Colors seem to play a fairly prominent role in the wizarding world, so If Slytherin was such an evil wizard, why would so many characters of rival houses use this color in their dress robes? I think that the wizarding world is defined by those who seek greater magical power. Some will stop at nothing [Voldemort, Grindelwald] to gain that power, while others self-limit. Slytherin is appreciated and idolized for his magical abilities, and not his political views. Perhaps the trap he set for Hogwarts in the form of the basilisk would change peoples' minds about his intentions, but it seems that the wizarding world is set up on primarily self-serving rules and a desire to maximize ones' own power. Wow, i didn't think I'd ever write that much about the Potterverse. Be kind....
In defense of the statute of secrecy, I imagine (esp once Dumbledore got his hands on it) it probably had exceptions for muggles married to magical folk, etc.
You ever wonder who actually taught the snake to be racist? were the Gaunts stopping by to read it the most jacked bedtime stories of all time or what.
Fairness to Slytherin: at the time, Muggles were literally hunting Wizards. It was his pov that they would be dangerous and BETRAY the students who had to goto school to learn magic safely. Slytherin had phobias built on his pain- similar to Magneto from X-Men. It’s not like he used the Baskilisk- he put it there with the idea that PURE wizards were innately going to do good with it, but inevitably failed to see the birth of a Wizard of his line incapable of Love.
@@gentleant1645 they were probably always feared if the prospect of magic was around. There have been witch trials up to the 1990's and way back to the 1500's and possibly further back just not in recorded history or on a smaller scale so it wasn't remembered.
J: You produce one worst wizard of all time and suddenly your house is tarnished forever Me: *laughs nervously in german* Austria: *Quietly laughs in the next room*
Slytherin lived at a time when Muggles were pretty keen on killing witches... I think his hatred of Muggles and Muggle-borns is therefore fairly understandable.
Nope, Salazar lived in the 10th and 11th century when the majority of Britain was pagan and practiced witch craft. Witches weren't persecuted in Britain until the 16th century, so you're off by about 400+ years.
@@dave9401 That'd be a difference between muggle history and HP lore. Or, in other words, JK is not know for her deep understanding of history so you generally cannot superimpose muggle history onto the wizarding world without absurd contradictions.
@@VoodooAngels it's not supposed to be an alternative world, it's supposed to be one that exists within our very real world and follows our history so that makes no sense.
@@dave9401 That may as well be but the lore still says Hogwarts was founded in order to protect students from persecution. Lore supersedes reality when it comes to character motivations.
Very True...couldn't have said it better myself Xavier/Gryffindor: " both of our kind can live together in peaceful coexistence;if we just open our hearts,and try to understand each other" Magneto/Slytherin : "What a load of feel good nonsense.Their kind and ours can NEVER live together side by side.They fear our powers,and will always turn on us in the end"
isn't the basilisk on the cover for chamber of secrets? I don't think there was anything really slytherin relevant in prisoner of askaban. still, they shouldn't have used wormtail for it
Abigail Gabriella but they only put Peter Pettigrew there because he was Voldemort’s servant. At least dementors can’t be connected to a different house.
I mean... Literally any Slytherin is better than Peter Pettigrew. At least they'd be in the the actual house. They even could've said Merlin, since he was a Slytherin.
I think he (Merlin) is mentioned in the first book when Harry is meeting Ron and they are opening Chocolate Frogs... I don't think it talks about his house if memory serves but he may have formed the Wizengamot?
Godric: Hey what are we going to do to protect these kids? Rowena: I can rustle up some protection charms Helena: Umm.... kitchen in the basement?? Salazar: GIANT SNAKE IN THE DUNGEONS!!!! The Rest: .... Salazar: .... Kidding?
Amber Blonk Ah, don’t be so sure about that. Remember, it’s now canonical that if Cedric were to have been humiliated during the second task, he would’ve killed Neville and thus facilitated the continuation of Voldemort’s reign of terror indefinitely. Not quite darkest wizard of all time, but you’re not all so innocent ;P. Lol JK Hufflepuffs are awesome.
@@Gamelover254 I'm with Chase. I would rather believe Slytherin left the snake as a security measure because he was paranoid that the muggles would indeed attack the school. Then after a 1000 years of isolation it would have turned any sentient creature mad from loneliness which could be capitalized on pretty easily. A fan theory about voldy I read was that the act of being conceived under the influence of love potion would make him inhibited to the feeling of love if not downright lost. So I feel bad for good ol' Bessy that she only wanted to protect the school from what voldy likely sad was attacking it. I also imagine that the snake would have no idea about blood purity outside of what was told her. So the Snake is innocent. Voldy and his hatred is not.
@@yuvalbar1775 It picks of people one at a time, it only gets a handful of people throughout the entire year. I would argue that a basilisk would be far more capable than that if it was intended to purge the school, but it had actually been trained to take out individuals, which makes sense if you consider the possibility that Slytherin intended to use it as an anti-subdifugex creature trained to take out specific people Slytherin suspected were spies.
Here's my thought. I believe, and you may even like this, cause it encourages Slytherin Pride, that the Basilisk in the Chamber of Secrets may be the last line of defense were there to be an incursion or purge at Hogwarts that would put at risk the lives of the students and staff members. Slytherin's fear of Muggles at the time may have been so dire and extreme, that, unbeknownst to even the other three founders, he would have placed a beast that would strictly target Muggles and Muggle-born. Later on I imagine that the story would've turned to legend, mixed in with Slytherin's own ideals and created a false prophecy whereby some heir would come and purge the school of non magic folk. Is it extreme? Yes. Does it make Slytherin an evil wizard? Not at all. In fact I'd consider him a Magneto type of character, where his greatest fear is the full annihilation of his people, and though he left the school, he left an ultimate weapon capable of tipping the scales in their favour. So I say point goes to Slytherin. That said, I'm a Ravenclaw.
It makes sense. The rest of the founders thought it was the last line of defense, but Slytherin intended it to be used for muggles. (Perhaps if ex. A muggleborn told the muggles about Hogwarts and sent the muggleborns to go attack the school or something not so extreme ( hope you get the gist) then his heir could help defend the school🙂) He could have good intentions, but in the future, what was real, turned to a much worse myth, making a bunch of 11 yr. olds feel bad about themselves, causing them to come out as bad people, make the reputation, and create the message of Salazar Slytherin. Notice how his close heir, ( the one who started ilvermorny) was good🙂. Because Slytherin was just a paranoid person, who wanted to keep his friends and students safe. He was a bit extreme, and not the best of people, but, good none the less. What do you think?
The situation about Slytherin and the rest of the founders reminds me of Batman's ideals against the ideals of the rest of the Justice League. Especially, the episode where a villain manage to manipulate Batman's backup defenses against the Justice League. I would figure Salazar has a similar mindset as Batman's.
I can't remember where I read this, but it was also said that Salazar Slytherin didn't trust muggle-born wizards because he was afraid that they would expose the wizarding world and side with the muggles -- around the same time he left the quartet.
considering how they probably got treated then well that fear isnt really baseless. like if draco malfoy treats hermione with so much contempt years after the prosecution then maybe the muggle borns were treated worse liekly with the same fear and suspicion that salazar thinks and well decades of that kind of treatment wouldnt really endear the magical world to the muggleborns
@@misaki4119 and then think about how normal anti-wizard muggles wouldnt like muggle born wizards for betraying their own kind if it came down too war between the 2
i think he was against letting muggle borns into the school because at the time wizards were being persecuted by muggles instead of the other way round with all the witch trials and everything. Although wizards who were of age would have been able to get out of that situation, children who were wizards may have been in more danger.
Not exactly related, but there's a great part in one of the sorting hat songs that gives us an interesting insight into Slytherin. "The houses that, like pillars four/Had once held up our school/Now turned upon each other and/Divided, sought to rule" It goes on to mention friend fighting friend, and Slytherin departing the school forever which ended the fighting. At no point does the Sorting Hat (who was present during that time) throw any blame around. It talks instead ab out how each of the houses had disagreements about who should be taught. Is Slytherin not teaching muggleborns any worse that Ravenclaw only teaching clever kids, or Gryfindor only teaching those "with brave deeds to their name"? If anything, Slytherin is the bigger person, and leaves the school to cause a de-escalation of the situation. I'd reiterate what others have said about the basilisk, but I'm sure you get the idea. Interestingly, the chamber has been opened several times in the past - notably what the then-current slytherin heir hid the trapdoor whilst the plumbing was installed in the 18th century. But except for Riddle, we never hear about any times that it came out to starting killing people. I mean, the ghosts would surely mention other times in the past that it'd been opened for killings if it'd happened? So other heirs to Slytherin are confirmed to have opened the snake hole, and not gone mad with killing, so maybe there's more to the story there too.
Yes, Slytherine's prejudice is worse because, unlike the cleverness of students (essentially a legitimate judgment of intelligence) and the deeds of students (a judgment of character), Slytherine wished to base the admission of students on their heritage/race, which in the muggle world we call racial prejudice. Otherwise, maybe your point warrants some consideration. Certainly some further research by the majority of the wizarding community.
@@21centuryhippie61 Not really though because during that time period THEY were the ones being persecuted by the muggles rather than the other way around. It was less of a superiority thing and more of a worried precaution.
@@michaelm.3641 "during that time period THEY were the ones being persecuted by the muggles" The wizards aren't going to tell you they are the problem. Just as surely as Voldemort was conceived by love potion, the wizards were pulling evil magical "persecution" that would warrant the non-magical deciding to take the "precautions" of killing wizards.
Kittypuppychicken YT that’s what we need instead of fantastic beasts, a book about the founders would be great! We don’t know a whole lot about them or their relationships, so it could be really cool.
Hogwarts founders story would be fun. The story in Voldemort’s perspective would be hard for me to read because too much of his story had already been revealed.
To be fair to ol’ Slytheryn the basilisk is entirely loyal to him so keeping it is much safer than a man-eating plant or a murderous chess board just saying.
Yes, but Slytherin also knew he wouldn't be around when the basilisk would be released, and there wasn't any way to know if the person that would have control of it at that time would be reasonable or not
While the man-eating plant and chessboard were dangerous to have in a school, neither were intended to be targeted at any students like the basilisk was
Slytherin was alive 1000 years before the series began, what if what we know about him was basically like a giant game of telephone. What if maybe Slytherin just had a simple disagreement with the other founders, and over the years it was blown out of proportions by the people retelling what happened. What if he intended for the basilisk to be used by his heirs to protect the school in the event of an attack. I gotta say it might have been useful to fight off the Death Eaters in the final battle as long as it could be kept away from Voldemort, that is assuming it would even listen to him over another speaker, because I don’t think being a parcelmouth let’s you control snakes, just talk to them (Am I wrong?). Anyways that was just a long rambling thought, maybe I’m wrong, I don’t know.
about the first part that it was just an argument blown out of proportion, well we have a time vitness do we? The talking hat? he would have likely been a time witness. So he would also have been able to tell like "Yo guys, theres like a basilisk down there. Just thought you might wanna know"
@@fusel5883 Would they have asked him in the first place or paid any attention to him if it didn't fit their agenda? There are also a couple of ghosts hanging around from the same time period (Bloody Baron and Grey Lady) who could also provide answers. Chances are nobody thinks to ask because they already "know" and can't be bothered to actually find out.
Maurice Phillip what Agenda? You Act as if there’s a propaganda towards hating slytherins. I can imagine that that’s only in school and after you kinda get out of the group thinking when you start to work. The hat would be special since he also would have been at Hogwarts at the time while the bloody baron was who knows who and ravenclaws daughter said that she was not the best mother and likely wouldn’t know much. But the hat? And you really think that no one ever thought of asking the hat? Not even Dumbledore or all the other scholars of the magical world?
@@fusel5883 Sirius Black and his lack of a trial because everybody "knew" he was guilty. The agenda could be as simple as those supporting pureblood supremacy using the supposed aims of Slytherin to grant/maintain their legitimacy.
Maurice Phillip with Black they actually had an agenda. That is even stated in the books. How would that legitimise their claim? Just because a founder thought so?
I had a really interesting history teacher and he would say always remember that people of the past were people of their time we can’t necessarily blame people for doing the norm if that was the norm of that time.
I disagree- we can certainly blame them for committing acts we view as heinous or wrong. HOWEVER, I agree that we can have historical perspective on cultural and societal norms so as to better understand them and the situation they lived in. For example, I completely understand how my ancestors in the American Ante-Bellum south could view slavery as normal given the times. However, I still call it wrong and a crime against humanity and, should my digging into family history unearth slave owners, I will certainly blame them accordingly. Understanding does not mean condoning nor forgiving what they did and I think it's very important to have that distinction.
Something you said in this video "they have powers, they are your people" made me think of a question I've had in my head for a very long time, and I wanted to get your opinion on it. If muggle-borns are just born with magical powers, equally as powerful as any half or pure blooded wizard, the power just seems to come from no where and enter them at conception or at birth. Doesn't that mean that muggle-borns are the true pure bloods, as their powers were given to them not by blood but by magic power itself, such as what is studied behind the locked door in the Department of Mysteries? They aren't tainted by older magic that runs in the blood of pure and half bloods. They are pure, fresh, new magic that has entered the world. So called mud bloods would seem to have the actually purest blood of all, the purest magic inside them, whereas most half and pure bloods receive magic through blood, magic that is older, corrupted, warped, and changed by those who have used it before passing it on to their children, which might account for the fact that most dark wizards birth dark wizards, even if their children grow up in a different environment, outside of their parent's influence. Look at what happened to Voldemort, with a murderous uncle and a hateful and uncaring grandfather. Blood that has been spoiled by the dark magic that has run through it, and thus corrupts the next generation even more. This might even explain how Slytherin could have decedents like the Gaunts, corrupted and evil from the horrors passed down through their bloodline, while also having another decedent who would live to found Ilvermorney, having little to no corrupt blood passed through her line. I'm not saying that all evil that dark wizards and witches do is because of this, as the blood must be first corrupted then passed down, and so an initial evil must be committed in order for the corruption to begin, growing stronger over time with more evils committed, but this would be a good explanation for Voldemort's initial evil as a child, having so much evil passed down through the Gaunts. Any way, sorry to go on and on like that. Just typing what I'm thinking. Think about it. I think it makes sense. Stay awesome.
@@GoldenRose116 are you telling me that there's no wizarding word child protective services? What happened to all the other orphans that were a result of voldemort?
@@crazyweirdgirl115 they weren't all protected by this special magic. It is made very clear in the books that Harry had to live with relatives of his mother to be safe for Voldemort.
I don't think Hogwarts would be the same without Slytherin House. Imagine being the three remaining founders after he left: G: We should keep the name for Slytherin to honor his founding role. R: It would sound rather odd renaming it. H: I was SO READY to rename his House! I was going to call it Frank!
@@glowhoo9226 they came up with the statute of secrecy in the 1600s in response to the rise in popularity of witch hunts during the era. A lot of the arguments that people give to Slytherin's mistrust of muggles happened centuries after Hogwarts was founded. Witch trials still happened but not to the extent it did later. I don't think that he was actually evil, but his response to being denied his request to not take muggleborns into the school was very extreme. Keeping the king of snakes locked up in the school so that in the future his heir could use it to purge the school of muggleborns is not really an appropriate response. His mistrust of muggles was understandable but his way of getting his way was really extreme
You know who's a good example of a HEALTHY SLYTHERIN? Hiro Okumura - from 'Isekai Word Cheat', the Manga. He likes Books a lot, so you think first of Ravenclaw, but then you realize that: no, he's actually a Slytherin. A very, very healthy one. He's always thinking of his own benefit, but in a very healthy way, that is rather hard to describe. He's affecting everyone, but not manipulating anyone, if you get what i mean. He's also teaching people being polite - in a very rude manner though (lol)... He's practical and teaches people that most importantly. Mercy, Kindness and all that are indeed Positive But you can also NOT EXPECT them - you need to pay people for their work, for example. And that's just a summary about him.
Hey Jay! Although HP universe often associates snakes witg evil. But for us, Indians, snakes are not evil. "Nagini" is an actual name for Self transforming Snake-woman, who is once again NOT Evil. And even in ancient india, people used snake venom to strengthen their immunity. They say "excess of a good thing is dangerous" and "a drop of poison is a medicine". This is a good discussion on the "morality of a fictional wizard"
actually, in fantastic beasts 2 voldemorts familiar turns out to be a snake transforming woman called Nagini who is in love with Credence as he searches for his families information
Never thought Salazar was evil. He lived in a time when muggles lynched and burned people who they thought were witches. He put that giant snake there to ensure that wouldn't happen to Hogwarts don't @ me
Actually, witch hunts didn't really take over until about 500 years later. They came with Christianity and became more common in the time of reformation (1517), the Puritans being the most cruel (Salem witch trials in the late 17th century). "Magic" actually had its place in keltic and pagan culture which were dominant in Britain, and certainly in Scotland at that time.
I was with you up until the part of why he put the basilisk in the school. They had a charm to make the school look abandoned, a charm that made muggles remember some important task they had to complete, and many other protections. That leaves the muggle-borns who, even in his day, wouldn't out themselves as witch/wizard. It would be a prequel to "As honorable as your intentions were,Malfoy...".
He'll have no choice. Babies adapt to survive. Whatever you stuff in their face while they need you to live is going to be something they were "always into".
@@Cuggaconroyfan30001 Columbus wasn't trying to commit genocide idiot. Most of the natives were killed by diseases and those killed by colonists were not under the orders of colombus
Yeah, and his weird way of shouting everything would keep the interest of everyone. Also they could finally get a ghost to stop teaching. I mean, imagine you're a teacher that everyone hates and you die. What do you do? Come back as a ghost just to bore some kids to death.
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Hagrid left a colony of killer spiders in the forest next to the school.... also there's that tree that can punch you to death....isn't there a cracken in the lake too? At least the basilisk was locked up....
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"at least the basilisk was locked up" this made me lol
Hogwarts halls is deadly itself. Many unused rooms, jinz zone hallway and the moving staircase! Wizards and witches have no sense of safety.
You are forgetting Voldemort possessing a teacher, mere folk, dragons etc.
Oh and lets not forget Fluffy the freaking Three-Headed Dog!
"How dare you put that slimy Gryffindor on that beautiful, sleek, Slytherin green!"
I think Snape would be very happy to hear that.
He would ALWAYS agree to that stament.
I was very happy to hear that and I'm not snape
Movie Maniac I literally read this comment as j was saying it
If James Potter heard that he would bully Snape more than ever
@@tk56556 but seriously where was he supposed to go he's not brave ambitious cunning intelligent or gods forbid it loyal I think he was sorted on what he valued rather then what he already possessed besides every house has its fair share of duds I mean you really think I want Crabbe and Goyle in my house?
One thing that always bothered me in the HP series was how people seemed to discriminate against Slytherin house-especially when they did it to Slytherin children. I mean, if you treat a group of 11 year olds like they're monsters-in-the-making for the whole of their schooling lives, then they will probably start acting like it. That said: #Ravenclaw4Life
Repeated lie can become true if you say it enough times.
so true! it's so unfair to them! like, slytherin traits are actually pretty cool and it's just unfortunate that a lot of dark wizards and witches came from that house. except the biggest traitor, who was a gryffindor. i have the same issues with telling hufflepuffs they're, to quote hagrid, "duffers". like. . .what's wrong with being a hufflepuff?
i'm also a ravenclaw btw
I’m mostly Slytherin but have Hufflepuff traits and I’m here to say that you’re 100% right. I’m the type that cares about my friends to the point where I’ll do anything to protect them and my family. And I mean like anything. And if they’re in trouble then I’ll do anything to help them out. So I embody both traits fairly well.
@@amdraglover i think that would fall under fraternity. . .a slytherin trait. even the sorting hat says you find true friends in slytherin and i'm pretty sure if the other houses were nicer to slytherin they would be a part of that.
The Sox Box true. I didn’t even think about that part lol. I had taken a test that has all Pottermore questions to get your percents and my highest was as I said, Slytherin and a few points under it was Hufflepuff.
I can defend the basilisk. Muggles were a real threat back in his time. Remember the suits of armor that defended the castle at the battle of Hogwarts. It's been 1000 years I can promise history hasn't be kept 100% accurately. He may have not liked muggleborns but the fact that he never killed any is HUGE in proof of his character. He also had the sense to make sure the basilisk was locked up and no one who couldn't control it could get to it. Purely to keep the students safe. I'm sure if it was needed for defense from outside invasion it would come to defend the students. I could make a video in this defense but... 🤷
Oh my god. Imagine the basilisk during the battle of hogwarts?
You know who's a good example of a
HEALTHY SLYTHERIN?
Hiro Okumura - from 'Isekai Word Cheat', the Manga...
He likes Books a lot, so you think first of Ravenclaw, but then
you realize that: no, he's actually a Slytherin.
A very, very healthy one.
He's always thinking of his own benefit,
but in a very healthy way, that is rather hard to describe.
He's affecting everyone, but not manipulating anyone,
if you get what i mean.
He's also teaching people being polite - in a very rude manner though (lol)...
He's practical and teaches people that most importantly.
Mercy, Kindness and all that are indeed Positive BUT you
can also NOT EXPECT them - you need to pay
people for their work, for example.
And that's just a summary about him.
We had the same idea of the basilisk being used as a defensive weapon incase the school was put under threat.
Not only did we only ever see the basilisk under Voldemort's control, but even then it still doesn't eat anyone. No offense to its stony gaze, but if it was as interested in killing as the one controlling it was, it could have put in a lot more effort than it did.
On top of the defense argument, his wand also used part of a basilisk as its core. It's possible that he wanted to keep the basilisk close at hand in order to use some aspect of it as an ingredient in potions or for crafter other wands.
The basilisk is also accessed through the bathrooms. According to the Harry Potter wiki, plumbing was added to Hogwarts in the 1800s. Either someone found the basilisk when renovating a bathroom and chose to hide it behind a fake sink or the basilisk was added at that time. It feels just as likely that one of his descendants decided the idea of Slytherin's monster was a cool idea that they should make reality.
I don't think leaving behind a monster in order to kill muggle-born students can be justifiably defended.
Who doesn’t have a giant snake in their basement? Just me? Oh. 😓
No no me too
The one's who don't are the weirdo's
I agree
I keep mine in my pants
Do vampire snakes count PS don't ask it's a long story
If we take the view that Salazar slytherin's monster was there sort of as an insurance policy. I think the phrase "Purge the school of Mugglesborns" is really what makes it a problem. Now if he had told his Heir something to the effect of "If the muggle-borns ever betray the school, unleashed the monster."
At that point it would be a lot more possible...it would be like having a strategic nuclear Arsenal that you really don't intend to use cuz you really don't want to Have to use it.
After all when Hogwarts was retrofitted to have Plumbing the heir of Slytherin only really concealed the entrance. He didn't take the opportunity to unleash the snake on the school.
well for all we know maybe you are right and he did somethiong to that effect and then over the generations and possibly a descendant or two also being named salazar slytherin somewhere down the line it became purge the school of muggleborns instead of unleash the monster if the muggleborn ever betray the school (whoch while understandable is still a wrong and biased sentence and practically asking for a muggleborn to betray the school)
@@misaki4119 true
But it has long been speculated by the fan base have long speculated that there was some kind of war between Wizards and Muggles at some point. It could easily be the founders fought in the War and I personally believe Slytherin was probably a little bit older than the other Founders. so they may have has less exposure to the fighting. I mean godric Gryffindor had a sword for crying out loud so it's clear he had combat skills also. but if you think of Slytherin being sort the older end of a generation that fought in the War and Gryffindor being on the younger end like maybe only catching the last year of the war when he was old enough to actually fight in it. You can start to see the difference of perspective. It is biased and by modern standards very wrong. But if JK Rowling ever reveals that something like this scenario I have proposed is true. Then everything would make a lot more since.
If we compare it to Wars within the 20th century we could say that Salazar Slytherin would be like someone who'd fought in Gulf War 1 and Godric Gryffindor would have been part of Gulf War Two or the war on terror that has followed it. They're both veterans in that sense they both have skills in martial Magic. The persecutions of witches and wizards from their time in history in the real timeline are more than enough justification for them to have the skills. But if there was also a full-scale war that has yet to be written about by JK Rowling. It would make more sense why the biases exist and that the wizarding world did not find those that hold that oppions to be so vial that they face being ostracized. That's the real problem in all of this it seems like holding these pure-blooded supremacist views is just a normal accepted part of Wizarding Society. There has to be something in the history of their society that makes that seem like a perfectly reasonable stand to have.
A little fring but mostly harmless. at one point in the series it's even suggested that Arthur Weasley has an insufficient amount of pride in being a wizard. This implies that A Little Bit Stronger attachment to his own people in The Wizarding World would be expected then the attitude Arthur displays. Societies for sub cultures that have undergone a lot of persecution tend to have these much more close-knit in-group out-group worldviews and social ties.
Under this scenario it also makes more sense why it doesn't bother Godric Gryffindor is much to teach muggle-born students. One thing that JK Rowling has never explained about the Wizarding World and then I'm kind of curious about is what would happen if muggle parents refused to allow their student to go to Hogwarts. As long as they didn't do something horrible like Mary Lou barebone and force the child to repress their magic and they just were smart enough to learn to control it on their own. Does the magical community just leave them alone. Or does the magical world have a way of literally forcing them to give up the child if they're not going to cooperate?
Something parallel to the Star Wars Universe where Jedi had the right to just take a Force gifted child. We have seen that the Muggle world really wants nothing to do with magic in the Harry Potter universe. And the Wizards are clearly not above modifying memories for all kinds of trivial things. Like Harry blowing up his aunt. Or even just mad Eye Moody being known to freak out and call the muggle cops about intruders. You have to imagine that the local muggle police around Mad Eye Moody's place had to have their memories erased pretty frequently.
Point being anytime there is a total separation between one group of people and another. The group that is forced to go into hiding or isolation is going to have resentment. And depending on what the historical justifications that resentment is you get very different versions of The Wizarding World.
If being a pureblood elitist was understood than the rest of Wizarding Society to be as bad as Harry anf the Weasleys think it is it wouldn't have lasted for very long within their culture. Something had to have happen at some point to once have Justified it.
As someone above stated, what if Salazar had a vision of Moldevort and wanted to exclude the halfbloods from the school because of him, you know the old phrasing " for the greater good" if he can exclude a century of born halfbloods just to be able to keep Moldevort of the school in number is actually less deaths than the Dark Lord and entourage made in his reign of terror and he was not listened to by the other 3 colleges: helga Puffy , Boaster Griggy and Smarty Claw. ( griffindor here)
Personally, I like to imagine Salazar Slytherin just sort of snapping and creating the chamber in a fit of rage. (He was an extremely powerful wizard, after all. He could probably have done that) Like, he got in one too many arguments with his fellow house-heads, something went wrong and they actually came to blows, then he created the chamber, and left the school. Then, after quite a while, he cooled off and realized that leaving a monster in a school for 11 year olds might have been a bit of a mistake, but by then, relationships had soured with his old friends enough that he couldn't go back and undo his mistake. Then, he spend the rest of his life regretting his actions.
I don't think Salazar Slytherin was an evil man. I think he was a human man.
Slytherin Protec
He no attac
But most importantly
He can speak to the snac
Snack!?
@@anteater9408 Snek.
You know who's a good example of a
HEALTHY SLYTHERIN?
Hiro Okumura - from 'Isekai Word Cheat', the Manga.
He likes Books a lot, so you think first of Ravenclaw, but then
you realize that: no, he's actually a Slytherin.
A very, very healthy one.
He's always thinking of his own benefit,
but in a very healthy way, that is rather hard to describe.
He's affecting everyone, but not manipulating anyone,
if you get what i mean.
He's also teaching people being polite - in a very rude manner though (lol)...
He's practical and teaches people that most importantly.
Mercy, Kindness and all that are indeed Positive BUT you
can also NOT EXPECT them - you need to pay
people for their work, for example.
And that's just a summary about him.
@@slevinchannel7589 You know what, I respect your dedication in posting this in many comments, so take a like!
@@deathrayman8074 Thats nice.
At least i think its nice...
I mean, anything could be part of some bigger evil scheme, so ya never know.
I forget, how exactly do we learn of the Basilisk's purpose?.... If it was just from Tom Riddle, then it is possible it could be a case of Unreliable narrator, and that it actually has a different purpose (protect the school in times of emergencies?), but Tomas either lied or misinterpreted the meaning.
Maybe he thought "protect it from muggle born/half-bloods if to many come in" when it was actually "Protect from muggles in case they find the school and march an army with power weapons like guns".
Think we hear first from professor Binns as Hermione asks him about the legend and he mentions beast present
@@silaspoulson9935 Huh, that puts a wrinkle in my idea.
yes but this is after the original attacks 50 years previous they may have coloured the legends telling especially if Riddle left messages back then like he did the second time.
@@sfsin3380 yes and after thousands of years it's truly also a case of the game telephone, where you whisper something to someone and by the end of the chain it probably will have lost its original meaning
It could be to protect the school from any kind of thing, even goblins could make a siege on the school and would be troublesome, imagine how easy to win a war when you have all the children of your enemys at disposal.
**crashes out of pipes**
Basalisk: WAhahAHHAHAaHHAh!!!!
Audrey Clare poor sneky boi
@@llexarts it's a girl actually. the male basilisk has something red on his head.
Huh well the more you know
I always thought that Salazar Slytherin left the basilisk in the dungeons as last defense for the desperate situation: should the school be under attack and lives of the students in grave danger. Also, yes, he was paranoid about Muggle-born students because they potentially could have blurted out something to their families or be tricked to reveal the secret of the school. He thought they couldn’t afford the risk of divided loyalty when they had the responsibility to protect the lives of the children in dangerous and ruthless times. Paranoia is one of the key traits for every Slytherin and it made the difference between life and death more than once for Snape and Slughorn, for example.
Years after, those two facts became distorted and tangled up into this whole “ethnic cleansing” horror story. Did Slytherin hurt any of the Muggle-born students in his life? Why would he leave the snake behind to do it later? Doesn’t make any sense.
Mind you, the basilisk was obedient and listened to his instructions. Moreover, it was safely hidden for a thousand years, and no one could find it. No one, for a thousand years. Despite multiple attempts and thorough examinations of the school by talented wizards. Except one arrogant little s**t who happened to have a gift of parseltongue, had his own ideas, and used the snake to his own ends, marring the name of the entire House.
But still, a horrible monster, within the school walls, tsk-tsk-tsk. You know who else smuggled a horrible monster inside the school? Not for protection, but because he thought it was cute. Not locked up and hidden, but out on the loose. Not isolated, obedient and kept in-check, but with a mate and procreating like there’s no tomorrow, creating an army of out-of-control man-eating monsters. Not hundreds of years ago, but in modern times? Right you are - Hagrid.
I still don’t get how Slytherin is evil for being cautions and safely hiding a basilisk for protection of the students, and Hagrid is lovable for being careless and breading a horde of giant spiders within the school grounds.
Either they both are wrong for endangering other people or they both get a pass for their ultimately good intentions (or just the lack of bad ones in Hagrid’s case?)
Nah, I'm still thinking that he was fine with muggleborns per say, but didn't like peasants, a very common attitude at the time, and also given the wealth distribution at the time, something like 99% of muggleborns would have been peasants, and there would have been the very occasional muggleborn born to the nobles classes who he would have been more than fine with, but history forgot that bit. The basilisk you say? Well, we know that each of the founders contributed something, and that Slytherin's was the chamber, but I don't think it would have been a secret at the time, otherwise the other three would have kept pestering him about what he was going to add. So the founders knew about the chamber, and be extension, the basilisk, but the basilisk wasn't to defend against muggleborns, but to defend against invaders in general, because, again, at the time, "politics" equals "who has the biggest sword", and a basilisk is a pretty good sword. It wasn't Slytherin's fault that his descendants told it to attack students. Considering how well spread the rumours were of the muggleborn killing monster, Tom Riddle quite possibly wasn't even the first one to get to the chamber. We know parselmouth is hereditary from Slytherin's line, chances are SOMEONE managed to find it.
Also, the new set is nice :)
i like this theory.
That... actually makes a lot of sense.
Except I believe it was stated that the founders didn't know about the chamber.. I might be wrong, but so I remember.
Otherwise, I like the theory.
you are probably right, but the other founders not knowing seems less likely to me than the other founders knowing and history forgetting that fact as the chamber was hidden from the general populace.@@super3saiyan
@@elizabethlowes6501 I just did some research and read about the Chamber on Pottermore, and it IS stated that they didn't know. It also said that they each left their marks in their own houses and picked their own places for the houses, except Salazar who took it a bit "further" and created the chamber. Read about it on Pottermore.
My question is if four founders are in charge of constructing a castle to house the future of their people, why does every one think only one of them left a chamber of secrets. No one knew about Slytherin’s little buddy until Harry came along and killed it so there could well be three other large hidden halls on the grounds. In fact I would be hella surprised if the other founders dI not do this.
So, there's a chamber somewhere in the castle with a giant badger? And when something important is lost, the heir of Hufflepuff will release the badger to help find it? (I know the finding things isn't canon, but it's very much fanon)
Robin Ludvig Isomaa or there’s a huge swarm of tiny badgers that all come out to steal things and when they finally find that chamber they will find a HUGE mountainous pile of things people thought were lost.
Isn't this what at least the room of requirement is? I don't know if there's any knowledge on that, but I always imagined it being built by either Ravenclaw or Gryffindor.
Im not sure if it's cannonically explaind or not, but is the *chamber* of secrets really actuallly built by Salazar Slytherin or did he only put his basilisk there? Wasn't it just some old sewer system that got lost on the maps when they built newer toilets? I mean that's how Harry finds out about it, he hears its voice through the walls. I dont think Slytherin built a whole tunnel system throughout the school, pretty sure it is in the books that they are just old sewer tunnels.
The other founders were more open and wanted to work together. Slytherin wanted everything his way and was furious the others would not do what he wanted. So he hid the chamber of secrets so he could have his way one day when it was opened and all muggle borns were forced out or killed.
I kinda think maybe the real reason for the basilisk wasn't for the outright indiscriminate killing of muggle borns, but was kind of a safe guard. Like Jay said, the relationship between wizards and muggles was probably very bad at the time. A muggle born student would have been brought up with 11 years worth of hate and prejudice against wizards. Slytherin probably feared they wouldn't be able to overcome that upbringing, and may someday join together to destroy the school and everyone in it, in a suicide type mission to wipe out something they considered to be evil. He could have put it there to help the wizards in their time of need. Obviously that never happened, and as time went on even his descendants forgot the true purpose of the basilisk, and because wizards stopped fearing muggles and the supremacist attitude started seeping in, its purpose got twisted from a safeguard to a tool for genocide as it slowly passed into legend.
Hang on the two bottom symbols you put up are different. The snake and stick (without without wings is symbol of Asclepius and the double snake with wings is actually a symbol of Hermes.
You are correct. The staff with one snake was used by Imhotep prior to the use by the Greeks of the cadeusus.
True ^
Even Harry reassures his kid that being in Slytherin doesn’t make you a bad person and that he knows a very brave person (Snape) who was sorted into Slytherin
they put the kid who was probably best suited to hufflepuff but was put in gryffindor on the slytherin cover. I'll give you a million better characters, Try Dumbledore(lets be real) any non Sirius member of the black family (ANDROMEDA PLEASE) Draco malfoy, if you wanna stick with the evil motif may I suggest Voldemort himself since you know, he was actually a slytherin
THANK YOU, I knew I couldn't be the only person who thought Dumbledore belonged in Slytherin!
I disagree with the hufflepuff part, but the rest is totally true. Good point.
You really can't judge the poor snake and its original owner by what Tim Riddle said. And while I understand that the extended info on Pottermore is trying to flesh everything out according to the books the worst Slytherin was was someone go was trying to protect his people, for all we know the reason he did not want muggleborns in the school was because at the time only the wealthy were educated and he did not want to have to teach the abcs and 123s to them as well as magic.
NEW SET OH MY GOodnEss
Its beautiful I love it 😂
Actually tho I love seeing your set get cooler over time 😏
The big “snake” in the basements was a leg-less lizard
In defense of Slytherin muggles were burning wizards and witch's at the time. Also torturing anyone related to magic, like a mudbloods family for information.
They did not. That started in the early 15th century primarily, which is why the international statue of wizarding secrecy was created in 1689-1692. At the time of Slytherin most muggles and witches were friendly, even the Malfoys lived amongst muggles and had no dislike for them.
The harry potter wiki says this:
"Until the passing of the International Statute of Wizarding Secrecy in 1692, the Malfoys integrated themselves in high-class Muggle society. Though hotly denied by subsequent generations, there is ample evidence to suggest that the first Lucius Malfoy was an unsuccessful aspirant to the hand of Elizabeth I, and some wizarding historians allege that the Queen's subsequent opposition to marriage was due to a jinx placed upon her by the thwarted Malfoy.[9] The Malfoys expanded their already large estate with the lands of their Muggle neighbours, and dabbled successfully into Muggle currency and assets, becoming one of the wealthiest families in wizarding Britain. Though they opposed the Statute of Secrecy at first, they soon embraced it and cut off all ties with Muggle families, denying that they had ever fraternised with such people."
I know that the wiki cannot always be trusted but i am too tired to find the actual sources for what is said again.
Doesnt the basilisk also destroy horcruxes?
Alex Zheng it only does that because of its power(?)( I don’t know if that’s the best word) and the even though it can the basilisk was more of a feeling of insecurity and thinking it was the best way to save the wizard-ing community. He might have felt the need to protect the collective considering that life was not that well of witches and wizards alike. So...
I love the new set... Also the hidden Mickey mouse is next to the iron man head and the Mickey ball, at the end of the couch.
Interesting you're wearing green lol
Darth Rageon666 not really he is a slytherin after all
He is a Slytherin and he mentioned that he was wearing green lol
what if, Salazar was really fond of his pet snake, like hagrid and aragog, and created the chamber to keep it with him without causing any harm to others... later when his friendship fell appart he left the school making a dramatic not-really-meant-to threat, because he kept the chamber well hidden for anybody else to find... Not until tom riddle sought it out an actually act upon it... does it make sense? just saying :)
Possible
I always wondered how the Horcrux in Harry survived until the 7th book when he was actually bitten by the basilisk in the chamber of secrets.
It's because Harry didn't die, so the Horcrux didn't die either. Fawkes healed them both.
He would have destroyed immediately if Harry didn't have his own soul. Harry is the easiest horcrux to get destroyed but the slowest one because he was living creature unlike other which were enchanted with curse.
I’m not in slitherin myself but here’s what I think: To be evil it’s all about perspective and point of view, for example a wizard who is trying to do good, but from the others perspective they see that wizard as doing evil. My point is to be even considered evil it’s all about perspective of where you lie, like there’s no such thing as good and evil. I know this comment is total hippie thing so sorry for that! Have a great day though!
Right at this day, great people of the past can be seen as sexist or racist or things like that despite them being totally good people in their time. As time change peoples ideas, so does our morality and our concepts of good and evil. It's a human invention after all, and it's taught differently in each time period and region.
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I'm a Ravenclaw and I leave giant poisonous snakes in the basement all the time. (Seriously tho, if I wasn't placed in Ravenclaw I would've been in Slytherin and I would've been happy either way)
@TheWeeaboo Ohoho, I'm pretty sure I should've been in Slytherin because all and I mean ALL my friends thought I'd be in Slytherin, *heck, even I thought I was gonna be a Slytherin* but it turned out I was wrong. But boy o' boy am I glad that I got sorted into my favourite house, and apparently I'm smart, yay?
@TheWeeaboo cringe
@TheWeeaboo same
I think what people always overlook is the relationship between the magical world and the muggles i think it was more trying to protect his world as you put it
What I find interesting about the chamber is that it almost seem like a tempel built in the honor of Slytherin, possibly built by someone other than Slytherin himself.
I mean, you have to have rather large ego to build a tempel-like chamber complete with a full-lenght statue of yourself...
That and if we are to trust JK, someone other than Slytherin had to make the entrence which Harry uses since the bathroom came long after Slytherin.
Me: yes I Slytherin
J:we are on Harry’s side
Me:we are?!?!?!
Yes we are
No, I don't believe Sal was 'evil' per se, he just had different morals. I can understand why the purebloods were a bit miffed with having Muggle-borns coming into 'their' world. If you step into their shoes, they are watching the Muggleborns come into the wizarding world and change quite a bit. Thinking back, not many muggleborns are ready to accept the pureblood customs and culture.
Take Hermione for example, I love her to bits don't get me wrong, but she was so quick to assume the house elves were 'enslaved', yes some were treated poorly. Yet most of the elves need the magic and power of the house they serve in order to stay alive. But Hermione most likely had immediately thought of 'slavery' instead of researching the science, or in this case magic. Yes, she asked a few of the Gryffindor purebloods, but keep in mind that most of them have abandoned pureblood customs in favor of the new muggle ones that the muggle-borns carry in.
I believe this is the reason that magical and Muggles aren't allowed to marry in America, so that they may keep the old customs alive for as long as they can.
Anywhoooo, that is just my opinion/theory! No hate on Muggle-borns, or anyone for that matter! :)
So there is two main issues.
The first being the Muggle/Magic divide.
The second being the muggleborn magic user.
The magic and muggle divide is clearly an issue. If you cannot guarantee the safety of the people there, you aren't creating the right environment.
The muggleborn situation is much more complex because it works on good faith. You are going to put trust into muggles to keep a secret that at any point they could turn around and reveal you.
Is it any real wonder he put a basilisk in the chamber. At his time, those two scenarios could very easily be the end of the wizarding community he was trying to build.
Who can really say when he intended his heir to purge the school. Also I don't know if this is a typo but on the wiki page for Salazar, it says he mistrusted muggleborns. Meaning they did something to break that trust.
Although JK Rowling has gone on to say that he is named after fascist dictator António de Oliveira Salazar who ruled over Portugal and happens to be where JK lived for several years.
Did you know that Slytherin looked for seeds of greatness in his students?
It's on Pottermore
The hidden Mickey is above the Discord pillow.
Happy one year anniversary of the new set you guys!
Why is there only one guy like voldemord? Like theres more evil people like Bellatrix so why didn't she make horcruxes? And get invincible too
Voldemort is like the most evil and he is the only one who is so evil that he can go on to do the unspeakable to make the horcrux. The process is gory but never revealed. A publisher nearly puked when JK told it to her.
because making a hocrux is a skill not many even know exists, fewer even know how to do and even fewer still, are willing to teach.
Well, It's fun in heaven! Yes,I am in heaven.
Fun fact: fear of wizards/witches and their persecution did not start until late 15th century. It was certainly not a medieval phenomenon. It wouldn't have been a concern during the time Hogwarts was founded.
Ain’t even gonna lie I’m seventeen but it doesn’t matter cuz we all love Harry Potter and carlin bros
I'm thirteen. We're all in the same boat here!
I'm thirteen too. Harry Potter is amazing!
Welcome to the Fandom guys!
Is fourteen considered too young or too old for Harry Potter these days? I was 12 when the last book came out
@Shealyne Anglin four years is extremely new, don't mean to be mean or anything like that, I was geniunly welcoming you guys hahaha Harry Potter Universal s awesome!! And nice to meet you too!
"So, as we all know, there are four types of child: Brave, Smart, Evil, and Miscellaneous."
"Yes, of course, please continue"
Hidden Mickey: in background made of Luxo balls
No there's a mickey doll kinda right behind his right shoulder. you can see it for a second or two at the beginning when he's standing up
Yeah I saw it !
I thought Gryffindor bought and paid for the sword and the only reason the goblins are angry now is because it was passed along his bloodline after his death rather then returned to them which technically is due to some culture shock from differences in inheritance laws between witches/wizards and goblins.
This is a really interesting perspective. It would be really awesome if these guys could write a founders series
I say no, the whole reason for Hogwarts was to protect witches and wizards from the muggles who were slaughtering them. The fact that the others thought it was ok to bring muggle borns in Hogwarts was very hypocritical and should’ve listened to Slytherin.
Wouldn't having untrained wizards roaming around the world be even worst? If muggle borns were never educated and trained in wizarding school, wouldn't their magic just be out of control and revealed to the muggles?
Sorry to bring this topic up, but it fits so well.
When the zombie apocalypse strikes, do you pen a few zombies up on the off chance that Advil is the cure, or do you simply finish them off and move on?
The same can be said with Slytherin and Muggle-born witches and wizards. In a time where non magic folks were actively persecuting the magical world, Slytherin probably viewed the situation as an "end of days" scenario
I am a Slytherin, so I appreciate this episode. 👍
It's still not okay, but I think that Slytherin trained the basilisk extensively for curable petrification, to provide a scare and a warning. There's just too many "lucky coincidences" where someone is looking at a reflective surface or through a transparent thing for it to not be intentional. Myrtle was just an accident, because she was literally right at the entrance and the basilisk realized too late. Or it's plot armor. It could always be plot armor but that's no fun.
Just to say I really enjoy the videos you do defending Slytherin.Good job including healing connotations by the way.
Has anyone noticed how the color green seems to have a prominent place in the wizarding world? When we first meet Monganagle, we see her in Green robes. Green robes seem to be ever-present in the world for dress robes. Harry's eyes, and his mother's, are green. The avada cadavra curse is a green light....many characters in the series wear green, irrespective of house affiliation, especially in the first two books [Dumbledore wears green dress robes at the Tri-Wizard ball I think]. Green is the color of Slytherin. Colors seem to play a fairly prominent role in the wizarding world, so If Slytherin was such an evil wizard, why would so many characters of rival houses use this color in their dress robes?
I think that the wizarding world is defined by those who seek greater magical power. Some will stop at nothing [Voldemort, Grindelwald] to gain that power, while others self-limit. Slytherin is appreciated and idolized for his magical abilities, and not his political views. Perhaps the trap he set for Hogwarts in the form of the basilisk would change peoples' minds about his intentions, but it seems that the wizarding world is set up on primarily self-serving rules and a desire to maximize ones' own power.
Wow, i didn't think I'd ever write that much about the Potterverse. Be kind....
In defense of the statute of secrecy, I imagine (esp once Dumbledore got his hands on it) it probably had exceptions for muggles married to magical folk, etc.
Maybe the basilisk is like a guardian Salazar left there to protect against a muggle attack
I'd like to think that wizards could defend themselves from Muggles without a Basilisk, honestly.
You ever wonder who actually taught the snake to be racist? were the Gaunts stopping by to read it the most jacked bedtime stories of all time or what.
“You don’t see schools named after people who committed genocide” Christopher Columbus and Andrew Jackson say hi
7:01 There is a school named after Robert E Lee in Alabama
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School won't be destructed. Special enchantments, remember?
His middle name is Franklin? THAT'S MY MIDDLE NAME!! #slytherin4lyf xD
Also, snakes are really good for pest control too. Look at rat snakes for example
Fairness to Slytherin: at the time, Muggles were literally hunting Wizards. It was his pov that they would be dangerous and BETRAY the students who had to goto school to learn magic safely. Slytherin had phobias built on his pain- similar to Magneto from X-Men. It’s not like he used the Baskilisk- he put it there with the idea that PURE wizards were innately going to do good with it, but inevitably failed to see the birth of a Wizard of his line incapable of Love.
witches and wizards were feared by muggles in the 17th century, not 11th
@@gentleant1645 they were probably always feared if the prospect of magic was around. There have been witch trials up to the 1990's and way back to the 1500's and possibly further back just not in recorded history or on a smaller scale so it wasn't remembered.
tomuchcamoflauge thanks for the info
Ehm, ehm, crusades.
With that in mind, I wonder how he’d feel seeing his true heir being one of the most evil and feared Dark Wizards...
J: You produce one worst wizard of all time and suddenly your house is tarnished forever
Me: *laughs nervously in german*
Austria: *Quietly laughs in the next room*
XD Austria does get away with it.
This comment is first class. Hats off.
And the one bad German was used by Author to create the 1 bad wizard!😱😱😳😳
wait how do you laugh in german? laughing is a sound.
@@pookaverse "Hahahahahaha"
Because of how protective he was I wouldn't be surprised if he created the hundreds of statues that could come to life and protect the school.
that's a good insight, and now my headcannon :D
That would be epic!!!!
I'm searching it up and binging it for the next two hours while emotionally eating ice cream. SCB should make a theroy on it!
What if that was part of the reson for the basilisk
TnT FoX 😂😂😂😂 There were statues made though
Actually that is more likely Gryffindor’s creation I can just see a man who values bravery wanting an on call army of his own
Slytherin lived at a time when Muggles were pretty keen on killing witches...
I think his hatred of Muggles and Muggle-borns is therefore fairly understandable.
Except muggles were remarkably unsuccessful at killing wizards and witches. It was more like a time when muggles were pretty keen on killing muggles.
Nope, Salazar lived in the 10th and 11th century when the majority of Britain was pagan and practiced witch craft. Witches weren't persecuted in Britain until the 16th century, so you're off by about 400+ years.
@@dave9401 That'd be a difference between muggle history and HP lore. Or, in other words, JK is not know for her deep understanding of history so you generally cannot superimpose muggle history onto the wizarding world without absurd contradictions.
@@VoodooAngels it's not supposed to be an alternative world, it's supposed to be one that exists within our very real world and follows our history so that makes no sense.
@@dave9401 That may as well be but the lore still says Hogwarts was founded in order to protect students from persecution. Lore supersedes reality when it comes to character motivations.
I always imagined Gryffindor and Slytherin to have had a similar (if not outright verbatim) relationship and history as Charles Xavier and Magneto.
Magneto is one of my favorite villains because he was a good person caught up in a bad situation. Plus he genuinely respected Professor X.
@@factsandstuff2832 That's exactly what I was thinking. It makes a lot of sense when you think of it like that.
Very True...couldn't have said it better myself
Xavier/Gryffindor: " both of our kind can live together in peaceful coexistence;if we just open our hearts,and try to understand each other"
Magneto/Slytherin : "What a load of feel good nonsense.Their kind and ours can NEVER live together side by side.They fear our powers,and will always turn on us in the end"
i agree completely.
I like your view.
they honestly should've put a basalisk on the cover, now THAT would've been cool
isn't the basilisk on the cover for chamber of secrets? I don't think there was anything really slytherin relevant in prisoner of askaban. still, they shouldn't have used wormtail for it
They should have done dementors instead.
Abigail Gabriella but it’s okay for them to be on Hufflepuffs cover instead?
Abigail Gabriella but they only put Peter Pettigrew there because he was Voldemort’s servant. At least dementors can’t be connected to a different house.
Spare Parts dementors were in Prisoner of Azkaban not Chamber of Secrets
What if he was trying to be chaotic neutral?
You didn't get very many likes this time.
More like lawful evil imo
You're comments always have so many likes teehee.
You have a good point, man
Get out😑
On the slytherin book they should have put Severus Snape
Or maybe his patronus
Wait for the Half-Blood Prince edition 🙌🏻 except if it's already out and I'm not up to date 😂
Or voldemort honestly
I mean... Literally any Slytherin is better than Peter Pettigrew. At least they'd be in the the actual house.
They even could've said Merlin, since he was a Slytherin.
sali gaafar your right
I may not be Slytherin but I don’t think that they’re evil. I mean the Great Merlin himself was from Slytherin.
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@@davidspring4003 Citation: www.pottermore.com/collection/all-about-slytherin
Wait merlin exists
Wow didn't know that but saw it on Pottermore when I looked it up
I think he (Merlin) is mentioned in the first book when Harry is meeting Ron and they are opening Chocolate Frogs... I don't think it talks about his house if memory serves but he may have formed the Wizengamot?
Godric: Hey what are we going to do to protect these kids?
Rowena: I can rustle up some protection charms
Helena: Umm.... kitchen in the basement??
Salazar: GIANT SNAKE IN THE DUNGEONS!!!!
The Rest: ....
Salazar: .... Kidding?
Didn't know Rowena included her daughter in the school board meetings😐
By the way your comment is HILARIOUS 😂😂😅
*helga hufflepuff :(( don't overlook the hufflepuffs, their founder deserves to be properly remembered too!
Thanks for legit making my day
Danielle Hall YOU LEFT OUT HELGA!!!
Slytherin: “I mean you produce one worst dark wizard of all time and your house is tarnished forever, am I right...”
Me a Hufflepuff: “can’t relate.”
Amber Blonk
Ah, don’t be so sure about that. Remember, it’s now canonical that if Cedric were to have been humiliated during the second task, he would’ve killed Neville and thus facilitated the continuation of Voldemort’s reign of terror indefinitely. Not quite darkest wizard of all time, but you’re not all so innocent ;P.
Lol JK Hufflepuffs are awesome.
Savage
Amber Blonk so true! HUFFLEPUFF PRIDE!!
Missy yes, Hufflepuff had dark wizards, but the fewest number of them out of all the houses
Sarah
Lol yeah, I was totally joking with that one. More than anything it was poking fun at the ridiculousness of that plot point in the Cursed Child.
I think he left the basilisk there to protect the school if they were ever under attack by muggles. I dont think he had real evil intentions
That honestly makes me feel kinda bad for the Basilisk. It only hurt people because it was told to,
@@Gamelover254 I'm with Chase. I would rather believe Slytherin left the snake as a security measure because he was paranoid that the muggles would indeed attack the school. Then after a 1000 years of isolation it would have turned any sentient creature mad from loneliness which could be capitalized on pretty easily. A fan theory about voldy I read was that the act of being conceived under the influence of love potion would make him inhibited to the feeling of love if not downright lost. So I feel bad for good ol' Bessy that she only wanted to protect the school from what voldy likely sad was attacking it. I also imagine that the snake would have no idea about blood purity outside of what was told her. So the Snake is innocent. Voldy and his hatred is not.
You are completly ignoring the facts in the story then...
@@Gamelover254 ITS A GIANT SNAKE MONSTER THAT KILLS CHILDREN! WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?!
@@yuvalbar1775 It picks of people one at a time, it only gets a handful of people throughout the entire year. I would argue that a basilisk would be far more capable than that if it was intended to purge the school, but it had actually been trained to take out individuals, which makes sense if you consider the possibility that Slytherin intended to use it as an anti-subdifugex creature trained to take out specific people Slytherin suspected were spies.
I love how many times you cut to that Basilisk bursting out of the Chamber!!😂😂
And I thought it was so redundant and annoying XD Lol!
I was wearing headphones and it scared me every time
What is the name of that snake?
Be so funny if its name was Kracken
@@FrarmerFrank I just looked it up, and it does not actually have a name. However, it is a female basilisk. So that at least counts for something.
Do you think, when Salazar was at Hogwarts, he helped out in the Infirmary sometimes? Like how Helga basically ran the kitchens?
That's so cute, I hope so
Maybe.
Headcannon accepted.
*Janitor Salazar Slytherin*
🤣🤣🤣🤣
BHuang92 he’s not a cleaner, he’s a healer
Here's my thought. I believe, and you may even like this, cause it encourages Slytherin Pride, that the Basilisk in the Chamber of Secrets may be the last line of defense were there to be an incursion or purge at Hogwarts that would put at risk the lives of the students and staff members. Slytherin's fear of Muggles at the time may have been so dire and extreme, that, unbeknownst to even the other three founders, he would have placed a beast that would strictly target Muggles and Muggle-born. Later on I imagine that the story would've turned to legend, mixed in with Slytherin's own ideals and created a false prophecy whereby some heir would come and purge the school of non magic folk. Is it extreme? Yes. Does it make Slytherin an evil wizard? Not at all. In fact I'd consider him a Magneto type of character, where his greatest fear is the full annihilation of his people, and though he left the school, he left an ultimate weapon capable of tipping the scales in their favour. So I say point goes to Slytherin. That said, I'm a Ravenclaw.
It makes sense. The rest of the founders thought it was the last line of defense, but Slytherin intended it to be used for muggles. (Perhaps if ex. A muggleborn told the muggles about Hogwarts and sent the muggleborns to go attack the school or something not so extreme ( hope you get the gist) then his heir could help defend the school🙂) He could have good intentions, but in the future, what was real, turned to a much worse myth, making a bunch of 11 yr. olds feel bad about themselves, causing them to come out as bad people, make the reputation, and create the message of Salazar Slytherin. Notice how his close heir, ( the one who started ilvermorny) was good🙂. Because Slytherin was just a paranoid person, who wanted to keep his friends and students safe. He was a bit extreme, and not the best of people, but, good none the less. What do you think?
#ravenclaw4life
The situation about Slytherin and the rest of the founders reminds me of Batman's ideals against the ideals of the rest of the Justice League. Especially, the episode where a villain manage to manipulate Batman's backup defenses against the Justice League. I would figure Salazar has a similar mindset as Batman's.
I freaking love you, my Slytherin brother-in-arms.
Netflix should make a series on the founders kinda like marvel with the defenders
Absolutely
Netflix should make a Harry Potter series...
YESSSSS
Omg yes like a duel between the girls and men
Jk should write a series about the founders
I can't remember where I read this, but it was also said that Salazar Slytherin didn't trust muggle-born wizards because he was afraid that they would expose the wizarding world and side with the muggles -- around the same time he left the quartet.
I had read about this too....btw it was a comment but dunno in which vedio
considering how they probably got treated then well that fear isnt really baseless. like if draco malfoy treats hermione with so much contempt years after the prosecution then maybe the muggle borns were treated worse liekly with the same fear and suspicion that salazar thinks and well decades of that kind of treatment wouldnt really endear the magical world to the muggleborns
@@misaki4119 and then think about how normal anti-wizard muggles wouldnt like muggle born wizards for betraying their own kind if it came down too war between the 2
i think he was against letting muggle borns into the school because at the time wizards were being persecuted by muggles instead of the other way round with all the witch trials and everything. Although wizards who were of age would have been able to get out of that situation, children who were wizards may have been in more danger.
Edie actually the witch persecutions didn’t start until the 1400s
Not exactly related, but there's a great part in one of the sorting hat songs that gives us an interesting insight into Slytherin. "The houses that, like pillars four/Had once held up our school/Now turned upon each other and/Divided, sought to rule" It goes on to mention friend fighting friend, and Slytherin departing the school forever which ended the fighting. At no point does the Sorting Hat (who was present during that time) throw any blame around. It talks instead ab out how each of the houses had disagreements about who should be taught. Is Slytherin not teaching muggleborns any worse that Ravenclaw only teaching clever kids, or Gryfindor only teaching those "with brave deeds to their name"? If anything, Slytherin is the bigger person, and leaves the school to cause a de-escalation of the situation.
I'd reiterate what others have said about the basilisk, but I'm sure you get the idea. Interestingly, the chamber has been opened several times in the past - notably what the then-current slytherin heir hid the trapdoor whilst the plumbing was installed in the 18th century. But except for Riddle, we never hear about any times that it came out to starting killing people. I mean, the ghosts would surely mention other times in the past that it'd been opened for killings if it'd happened? So other heirs to Slytherin are confirmed to have opened the snake hole, and not gone mad with killing, so maybe there's more to the story there too.
Yes, Slytherine's prejudice is worse because, unlike the cleverness of students (essentially a legitimate judgment of intelligence) and the deeds of students (a judgment of character), Slytherine wished to base the admission of students on their heritage/race, which in the muggle world we call racial prejudice. Otherwise, maybe your point warrants some consideration. Certainly some further research by the majority of the wizarding community.
@@21centuryhippie61 Not really though because during that time period THEY were the ones being persecuted by the muggles rather than the other way around. It was less of a superiority thing and more of a worried precaution.
Racism is a communist construct, you therefore are a communist for using it.
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"during that time period THEY were the ones being persecuted by the muggles"
The wizards aren't going to tell you they are the problem. Just as surely as Voldemort was conceived by love potion, the wizards were pulling evil magical "persecution" that would warrant the non-magical deciding to take the "precautions" of killing wizards.
I wish that J.K Rowling would write a book from Voldemort’s perspective. Or even the Hogwarts Founders.
Kittypuppychicken YT that’s what we need instead of fantastic beasts, a book about the founders would be great! We don’t know a whole lot about them or their relationships, so it could be really cool.
A movie about Tom Riddle would be cool.
Hogwarts founders story would be fun. The story in Voldemort’s perspective would be hard for me to read because too much of his story had already been revealed.
TBH I dont want that book because I don't trust JK to write it without her obvious hatred of Slytherins.
I'd really both, but the Hogwart's Founder's perspective has my true curiosity.
Sounds like Salazar Slytherin was Magneto for wizards.
and magneto was right, in the end almost every mutant was dead
Or stripped of their powers if I remember correctly
@@LuizHenrique-fe2mk Thanks for the spoilers you manchild
@@ObamaSexGaming2007 Well, anyway let me say you're welcome
To be fair to ol’ Slytheryn the basilisk is entirely loyal to him so keeping it is much safer than a man-eating plant or a murderous chess board just saying.
good point
Yes, but Slytherin also knew he wouldn't be around when the basilisk would be released, and there wasn't any way to know if the person that would have control of it at that time would be reasonable or not
While the man-eating plant and chessboard were dangerous to have in a school, neither were intended to be targeted at any students like the basilisk was
Slytherin was alive 1000 years before the series began, what if what we know about him was basically like a giant game of telephone. What if maybe Slytherin just had a simple disagreement with the other founders, and over the years it was blown out of proportions by the people retelling what happened. What if he intended for the basilisk to be used by his heirs to protect the school in the event of an attack. I gotta say it might have been useful to fight off the Death Eaters in the final battle as long as it could be kept away from Voldemort, that is assuming it would even listen to him over another speaker, because I don’t think being a parcelmouth let’s you control snakes, just talk to them (Am I wrong?). Anyways that was just a long rambling thought, maybe I’m wrong, I don’t know.
about the first part that it was just an argument blown out of proportion, well we have a time vitness do we? The talking hat? he would have likely been a time witness. So he would also have been able to tell like "Yo guys, theres like a basilisk down there. Just thought you might wanna know"
@@fusel5883 Would they have asked him in the first place or paid any attention to him if it didn't fit their agenda? There are also a couple of ghosts hanging around from the same time period (Bloody Baron and Grey Lady) who could also provide answers. Chances are nobody thinks to ask because they already "know" and can't be bothered to actually find out.
Maurice Phillip what Agenda? You Act as if there’s a propaganda towards hating slytherins. I can imagine that that’s only in school and after you kinda get out of the group thinking when you start to work. The hat would be special since he also would have been at Hogwarts at the time while the bloody baron was who knows who and ravenclaws daughter said that she was not the best mother and likely wouldn’t know much. But the hat? And you really think that no one ever thought of asking the hat? Not even Dumbledore or all the other scholars of the magical world?
@@fusel5883 Sirius Black and his lack of a trial because everybody "knew" he was guilty. The agenda could be as simple as those supporting pureblood supremacy using the supposed aims of Slytherin to grant/maintain their legitimacy.
Maurice Phillip with Black they actually had an agenda. That is even stated in the books.
How would that legitimise their claim? Just because a founder thought so?
I had a really interesting history teacher and he would say always remember that people of the past were people of their time we can’t necessarily blame people for doing the norm if that was the norm of that time.
Completely true. We cannot always interpret their intentions well since we do not live in the same era. But that doesn't mean we can't understand.
that’s so important and i wish people knew this and understood this more. underrated comment
I disagree- we can certainly blame them for committing acts we view as heinous or wrong. HOWEVER, I agree that we can have historical perspective on cultural and societal norms so as to better understand them and the situation they lived in. For example, I completely understand how my ancestors in the American Ante-Bellum south could view slavery as normal given the times. However, I still call it wrong and a crime against humanity and, should my digging into family history unearth slave owners, I will certainly blame them accordingly. Understanding does not mean condoning nor forgiving what they did and I think it's very important to have that distinction.
Slytherin and Gryffindor are two sides of the same coin.
... how...?
Those 2 used to be best of friends. I imagine them as Ron and Harry.
Nice Merlin reference
Ben Tarr Salzar and Godric were actually friends before they had a fight over who is allowed in Hogwarts
Barbora Klepalová why do u imagine them as Harry and Ron????? I really don’t understand
Something you said in this video "they have powers, they are your people" made me think of a question I've had in my head for a very long time, and I wanted to get your opinion on it. If muggle-borns are just born with magical powers, equally as powerful as any half or pure blooded wizard, the power just seems to come from no where and enter them at conception or at birth. Doesn't that mean that muggle-borns are the true pure bloods, as their powers were given to them not by blood but by magic power itself, such as what is studied behind the locked door in the Department of Mysteries? They aren't tainted by older magic that runs in the blood of pure and half bloods. They are pure, fresh, new magic that has entered the world. So called mud bloods would seem to have the actually purest blood of all, the purest magic inside them, whereas most half and pure bloods receive magic through blood, magic that is older, corrupted, warped, and changed by those who have used it before passing it on to their children, which might account for the fact that most dark wizards birth dark wizards, even if their children grow up in a different environment, outside of their parent's influence. Look at what happened to Voldemort, with a murderous uncle and a hateful and uncaring grandfather. Blood that has been spoiled by the dark magic that has run through it, and thus corrupts the next generation even more. This might even explain how Slytherin could have decedents like the Gaunts, corrupted and evil from the horrors passed down through their bloodline, while also having another decedent who would live to found Ilvermorney, having little to no corrupt blood passed through her line. I'm not saying that all evil that dark wizards and witches do is because of this, as the blood must be first corrupted then passed down, and so an initial evil must be committed in order for the corruption to begin, growing stronger over time with more evils committed, but this would be a good explanation for Voldemort's initial evil as a child, having so much evil passed down through the Gaunts. Any way, sorry to go on and on like that. Just typing what I'm thinking. Think about it. I think it makes sense. Stay awesome.
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Incorrect. I'm a true pureblood & nobody is going to say otherwise.
This is an amazing theory!!!
@Tesla-Effect Interesting. Is this your own theory or is this confirmed canon?
@@pcplayer9613 Canon. I forget where I found out but I think it was a SCB vid
Honestly Salazar sounds a bit like Dumbledore, in that they both did bad things for good reasons but Dumbledore knew where to draw the line.
right behind his sister?
Yep, but does that count as better or worse then knowingly leaving a kid in an abusive home?
@@jessicac4082 well to be fair, there was no other place that kid could really go, the protection spell rememeber
@@GoldenRose116 are you telling me that there's no wizarding word child protective services? What happened to all the other orphans that were a result of voldemort?
@@crazyweirdgirl115 they weren't all protected by this special magic. It is made very clear in the books that Harry had to live with relatives of his mother to be safe for Voldemort.
I don't think Hogwarts would be the same without Slytherin House. Imagine being the three remaining founders after he left:
G: We should keep the name for Slytherin to honor his founding role.
R: It would sound rather odd renaming it.
H: I was SO READY to rename his House! I was going to call it Frank!
Lol
@Super Greyflash Hufflepuff would say that. No imagination at all. Just like her house
@@youtubeistryingtocensorme Hufflepuff is known for loyalty though. Being all gung-ho about renaming the house doesn't exactly seem loyal.
all i can say is...
FINALLY
i was like
DID THEY FORGET It WAS TUESDAY
Slytherin is the perfect representation of Anti Social Social Club.
Web HAM Radio exactly 😂
Aehm, cough... Diogenes Club *cough* . :-)
Good intentions led by justified fears resulting in a negative/unfair impact. Classic I would say.
Also still evil. Many who do bad things have good intentions.
MycenaeanGal I wouldn’t say he’s evil
Think about the Salem witch trials, when many wizards were tortured and slaughtered by nomaj’s
@@glowhoo9226 they came up with the statute of secrecy in the 1600s in response to the rise in popularity of witch hunts during the era. A lot of the arguments that people give to Slytherin's mistrust of muggles happened centuries after Hogwarts was founded. Witch trials still happened but not to the extent it did later. I don't think that he was actually evil, but his response to being denied his request to not take muggleborns into the school was very extreme. Keeping the king of snakes locked up in the school so that in the future his heir could use it to purge the school of muggleborns is not really an appropriate response. His mistrust of muggles was understandable but his way of getting his way was really extreme
You know who's a good example of a
HEALTHY SLYTHERIN?
Hiro Okumura - from 'Isekai Word Cheat', the Manga.
He likes Books a lot, so you think first of Ravenclaw, but then
you realize that: no, he's actually a Slytherin.
A very, very healthy one.
He's always thinking of his own benefit,
but in a very healthy way, that is rather hard to describe.
He's affecting everyone, but not manipulating anyone,
if you get what i mean.
He's also teaching people being polite - in a very rude manner though (lol)...
He's practical and teaches people that most importantly.
Mercy, Kindness and all that are indeed Positive But you
can also NOT EXPECT them - you need to pay
people for their work, for example.
And that's just a summary about him.
Hey Jay! Although HP universe often associates snakes witg evil. But for us, Indians, snakes are not evil. "Nagini" is an actual name for Self transforming Snake-woman, who is once again NOT Evil. And even in ancient india, people used snake venom to strengthen their immunity. They say "excess of a good thing is dangerous" and "a drop of poison is a medicine". This is a good discussion on the "morality of a fictional wizard"
With*
Yes ...sorry
Kate Mattice lol that’s what you got from the comment?
So true
actually, in fantastic beasts 2 voldemorts familiar turns out to be a snake transforming woman called Nagini who is in love with Credence as he searches for his families information
New camera too?? Everything looks great!!
Life of Salazar slytherin would make such a great story
J.K should write that
Sarthak Raghav Only if she stops being such a hater lol. That would be really cool though.
She would make him gay
Yeetem Yeetemem I don’t care either way. I just want a Slytherin story.
@@kanyewestlover9118 Godrick and Salazar! Godrick was laughing at Salazar's little snake, so Salazar had to install a bigger one.
TH-cam China and I would love a gay Salazar. All cool characters are gay anyway 😎
Salad bar slytherin
Underrated comment.
Mmmm tasty
Never thought Salazar was evil. He lived in a time when muggles lynched and burned people who they thought were witches. He put that giant snake there to ensure that wouldn't happen to Hogwarts don't @ me
@ me
Yes I also was thinking in the same line
Actually, witch hunts didn't really take over until about 500 years later. They came with Christianity and became more common in the time of reformation (1517), the Puritans being the most cruel (Salem witch trials in the late 17th century). "Magic" actually had its place in keltic and pagan culture which were dominant in Britain, and certainly in Scotland at that time.
I was with you up until the part of why he put the basilisk in the school. They had a charm to make the school look abandoned, a charm that made muggles remember some important task they had to complete, and many other protections. That leaves the muggle-borns who, even in his day, wouldn't out themselves as witch/wizard. It would be a prequel to "As honorable as your intentions were,Malfoy...".
In real life, in some countries people still do. In 2019.
just imagine if his son doesnt like Harry Potter.
He'll have no choice. Babies adapt to survive. Whatever you stuff in their face while they need you to live is going to be something they were "always into".
That's When We Get A Video Update Titled: I Disowned Luke And Here's Why!".XD
@Neil Mehta canonically speaking it was september 2017
Dumbledore: Tom, Salazar Slytheriin is evil!
Tom: From my point of view the mudbloods are evil!
Dumbledore: Then you are lost!
insert name here Please this might be my favorite comment of all time😂😂😂
Does this mean that Dumbledore had the high ground?
Tom: If you are not with me, then you are my enemy!
Dumbledore: ONLY a dark wizard deals in absolutes!
Best comment. Salazar was breaking their hearts. He was going down a road they couldn't follow.
Tom - you will not take her away from me.
Dumbledore - nah mate I'm gay for dark wizards
Tom - Not my bunghole! Avada Kedavra!!
J: We don’t name schools after people who committed genocide
Me, a historian: *clears throat* let’s talk about Andrew Jackson...
Or columbus lol
Chris Roulo yup! I’m not sure if Stalin has schools named after him but I wouldn’t be surprised.
@John Doe *coughs* Trail of tears
Andrew Jackson didn't commit genocide he resettled natives
@@Cuggaconroyfan30001 Columbus wasn't trying to commit genocide idiot. Most of the natives were killed by diseases and those killed by colonists were not under the orders of colombus
What if the snake was put there for protection of the school like the statues but specificaly agenst the only enemy at the time... muggles
Like it was his contingency plan in case some muggleborns and their families revealed the secret and attacked?
I could see it
yup that's my theory
Muggle-borns are also wizards. They wouldn't be safe from persecution.
If you worked at Hogwarts I feel like you would make a good History of Magic professor
Yeah, and his weird way of shouting everything would keep the interest of everyone. Also they could finally get a ghost to stop teaching. I mean, imagine you're a teacher that everyone hates and you die. What do you do? Come back as a ghost just to bore some kids to death.
This clip of the Basalisk bursting out the chamber of secrets makes me laugh every time
What are you, a 3 y/o kid?
@@ObamaSexGaming2007 Why should you shame and "bully" someone who finds something enjoyable and funny... ?
@@umbrvalken Sorry about that, I'm nice now.
The clip of the Basilisk bursting out of the chamber has me vowing never to watch this video with headphones again.