Hej David, you might want to interview Dr. Jeremy Sherman. He is intelligentsia with humour! His series on how to talk to tRump cultists is BRILLIANT!!! 👍
All of those approaches to getting through to MAGA victims are smart. But, even if you can avoid, “speaking down,” to them, you have to keep in mind that you’re likely dealing with someone of a much lower IQ than you. That’s not a jibe, or a quip. It is the GOP strategy. It runs all the way back to McNamara’s Morons from the Vietnam War, and a branch of very deliberate exploitation of those who feel left behind, who are mostly people of lower thinking ability.
I believe that! (Funny thing the Dems are "masters" of that)! Forced Vax, Higher Taxes, Drag queens in kids schools, etc ("By the "Fruits" you shall know them"!)
@@anonymoose116 Very true! (You are right) thats the Dems "playbook" (Its hard to not try and save face). Policies and issues that effect and are vastly more important to America than a particular politician or personality!
The worst thing about Trump isn't what we've learned about him, it's what we've learned about our family, friends and neighbors that still support him.
Absolutely. The people who raised us instilled in us values that they never actually possessed themselves. Somehow they were able to do enough lip service to the “right thing” that we picked up on it and internalized the actual goodness. I was so surprised to realize that when my family went off the deep end for Trump. I got married in Oct 2016 and had an awesome family honeymoon (my parents, my daughter from my first marriage, his parents and my aunt and her s.o. all went on a cruise together after we got married on the ship) and I’m still angry that one of my most vivid memories of the honeymoon is my dad *screaming* at the taxi driver in Nassau about how he would rather have a “strong” president like Trump and Putin than a Democrat. They’re still in the cult.
Oh yeah it was pretty easy to get rid of them though because it was just the latest in a long line of stupid choices. Like the uncle who got scammed out of everything he owned by MLMs on 4 separate occasions, who then got just as hooked on the Trump cult and surprise surprise, lost everything there too. Didn't even go to his funeral. Just stopped by his grave when I was in town the year after so I could take a leak before getting on the highway.
When I was a child, I would see some people in Manhattan with a sign that read, " The world will end tomorrow." I asked my mother what happened when the next day came and the world didn't end. She said they would go out with the sign again. That's what MAGA reminds me of.
Mental illness is a major issue. Also, many people have poor intelligence. Using the distribution curve, I did the math and learned that there are about ~46 million Americans with an IQ below 85.
@spindriftbeach6082 .... his cult wants a nasty old man who wears diapers & stinks really bad. FACTS ... maby that's why they haven't put him in prison yet, no one wants to change him , like they had to do when he was on the Apprentice. Someone needs to rub his face in it. 🤮
BRAINWASHING 101: 1. Get people afraid of something. 2. Get people angry at the thing they fear. 3. Say I am the only one that can fix your fear. 4. Repeat steps 1 - 3 over and over again.
Wow. So simple to brainwash. I'm wondering though could the fear/ignorance had already been there and along comes the loud speaker to represent the leader of the fearful/ignorant people....and then they worship him and thrive off of his very breathe even if what he speaks is only fear mongering and edifying himself as savior...even though it's the ultimate deceit. God please free these people mentally and spiritually from fear, hate, and ignorance please. In Jesus name, Amen.
I once asked my maga mom if she could say one thing -- just ONE thing -- that she didn't like about trump. She could not answer. That's when I knew it was a cult.
I’m glad someone put this into words. It’s never the dislike of Biden or Kamala that baffles me. It’s the blind devotion to Trump I can’t wrap my head around. Like if you’re on the fence of who to vote for I can understand you might lean either way. But the blind devotion “can do no wrong” attitude people have for Trump is insane. The amount of people that let him get away with things they’ve just criticized someone else for is so obvious I just don’t get how so many people don’t see it.
Intelligence does not always come from education. As part of the saying at McDonald's goes " there are a lot of educated idiots". Education also does not give you common sense.
@@bonsaileo9555 Data does show college-educated people are much more likely to vote Dem. Until they become so rich and start to believe they deserve more than anyone else - then a certain % become Repubs.
But the ''religious'' ones supporting Trump, really? ''I grab'em by the p and they let me do it because I'm a star''? Freaking hypocritical, I despise them.
I absolutely cannot apologize to my MAGA family, as he suggests. I had to cut them off because they became verbally abusive to me. The relationships became too toxic for me to maintain.
Ahh, I'm so sorry! Yeh, my in-laws stepped over the line back in 2008 by accosting me for having a little blue dot on my car. We've never been the same since. They've found every way to try & disown/dislike me. 😞💙💙💙
I'm so sorry for your predicament. I'm right there with you. One side of my family is highly educated and despise Trump. The other side loves Trump but can't explain why. I am at a loss! I refuse to talk about politics with that side. I refuse to lose my relationships with them for this nutcase! He can be forgotten, my family is important to the rest of my life! I will vote Democrat completely down the line. I have always voted my heart and instincts. I have voted mostly for Democrat but have also voted for Republicans. Lately, they have really alarmed me with their conspiracy theories and specious lies as never before. I worked with the insane for years, and they remind me of those pitiful patients. Flights of fancy and delusions of grandeur are very common among them. If they were confinded to an institution, I would feel sorry for them. Unfortunately, they run wild and loose in this country! Maybe it wasn't a great idea to close down the psychiatric centers en masses because the Republicans didn't want to pay for their care anymore 😕. We sure could use them now! I get that the training wasn't the best, but we could have improved the system if we had given it half a chance. We need someplace safe to put people like MTG, DJT, Steven Miller, Matt Geatz, etc.
The most important relationship you have, the first responsibility you have, is to yourself and your own self care. Looking after yourself sometimes means removing yourself from a toxic relationship.
They isolate people and then demonize any and all outside information. "Fake news media" has become part of the modern lexicon. the lie is "I'm the truth, and everyone else is lying to you".
That's exactly what Trump did. Our nation is divided because of him. It's us verses MAGA. We might be able to get rid of Trump, but it will not be easy to elimate MAGA. As long as they're involved in our government, there will be another Trump or worse running next time around. It's very important at this point to keep voting blue up and down the ballot until the Republican party can rebuild back to where they once were without MAGA...
And in Trump's case, the first thing he did was divide people from their sources of non-biased and truthful information. With Fox's help, people believed that only HE tells the truth. Of course, Legacy Media was never truly un-biased, the message was subtly manipulated. But at least there were guardrails insuring truth, if not immediately, then sooner or later when some reporter would get caught, and then was fired. But in MAGA, wild-haired conspiracy theories run unchecked and supported by this weird new right-wing cult media.
Just about my whole family have descended to the MAGA cult. They think I’m the weird one. We can’t pick and choose our family, but I sure as hell would like for them to be deprogrammed. It’s hell.
I feel for you. My brother was a psychopath and my mother was his enabler so I know what it is like to be the odd one out. All you can do is keep your head down and hope the election goes your way. You cannot change their minds. Only they can do that. Good luck.
I feel as though the MAGA cult has highjacked religion and the American Flag. I live in a small Southern town where there’s a church on every corner. One day…. I will move far from here.
My nephew who was born in a religious cult is now in the Proud boys Cult. He has a small arsenal and has threatened to “take us all out” during “The Storm.” I have neighbors on the same bandwagon. The danger is real.
The reason his followers have sunk to cult levels, is because he has made indecency acceptable, *he has freed them from the constraints of decency* . He has liberated them from having to be moral, from having to demonstrate empathy, of having to be just to everyone. He has shown them that ignorance is as powerful as knowledge, so he has freed them from having to seek it. He has not only allowed them to be their worst, not just to free their bigotry, but to be proud of it, to be proud of their worse instincts, and so they love him for it, he is the messiah who has set them free of decency ,
My adult son is in the MAGA cult. I live with him. We were so close when he was growing up. He’s started changing before Trump came along. He’s always been extremely stubborn and I don’t see a way back for him. I’ve lost my son.
I'm so sorry for the separation you're experiencing. It's so hard to lose someone who you see everyday. It feels like too much right now, but there's always hope for change. I hope you get your son back one day.
The KKK had 6 million members in the 1920s. I think it's fair to say it had cult-like features. Maybe not a threat to the entire country as you say but not entirely fringe either. This Trump phenomenon is a different type of cult though and is much more focused around one single person. More akin to 1930s Germany.
Every foreigner I meet (Europeans and Central Americans, anyway) are terrified of his return. The first Q they ask, with great concern, upon making my acquaintance and learning I'm an American is, "Do you think HE will come back?" They don't have to even say whom they mean, it's understood, as with Hitler and Stalin in the past.
@@silverman5707I wonder the same thing. I was just watching MSNBC and one the news anchor asked the same question. They were discussing his most recent speech in front of elite group when ask DT about childcare. I’m like he must have some dirt on people bcuz they sat there and didn’t say a word . They applauded him for his word salad.
@@xbjrrtcThis cult will be the direct cause of the deaths of millions of women, school children, lgbtq, poc, and immigrants across the nation. It’s not right to sit back and let it happen.
I don’t want to engage with MAGA, the ones I knew/know are aggressive, loud and totally not open for any sane discussion about politics. Very disrespectful people who are 100% all in. So, unfortunately I can’t go there. The religious fanatics are the same.
I totally understand. I felt like that too. Yet over the years, I feel sorry for their lack of upbringing, and education. They are literally, indoctrinated in the home from birth, and don't know anything else. Like a racist, it's what you hear in the home from day one.
Thank the DoJ. Trump has worked the interstices/gaps/less-defined areas in the law so effectively, and thrown so much money at his defense against various charges, that they have never known how to handle him. They are comfortable operating only on the basis of precedent -- but for him there is no precedent. Nobody wants to be the first to act, or to have his legal judgment possibly rejected and reversed. Therefore they do almost nothing, and what little they do is done very slowly and cautiously. The legal beagles won't save us. We need to vote.
@@roberthaworth8991 I agree with everything you said except the vote part. Voting is one aspect of democracy, another is social trust in justice and accountability. You can't use one to correct the breakdown of the other. You could lose the vote, you could win and think that means you banished the ills that he represents. What we need is courage and principles, and the Democrats have shown they enjoy having Trump as cover, to fundraise off, to point at, to shore up their base. This is their failure. They had 4 years to nail him.
Unless you worked at one of the bankrupt AC casinos then it's a 30 year association, which you thought was over after the casino closed. He's like mold..
more deleted comments lol the more they lie about donald trump and make him in to so kind of supervillain the more they will wake people up to the truth
It's so hard to be warm and kind to MAGA folks. I was respectful for years, but grew tired of being treated badly by them. They were cruel, and I had to walk away for self preservation.
Freya, to me that is a distinction without much of a difference. If evangelical Christianity disappeared tomorrow, Trump would be functionally irrelevant.
You know what cult members love to do - gaslight and deflect!! Guess who's been doing that for 5-6 decades?!??! That's right - LIBERALS!!!!!! Pot Meet Kettle!!!!
My brother is an evangelical pastor and really dislikes Trump and how he exploits Christianity. My brother empathizes being compassionate, open, and non-judgemental to live more Christ-like and quotes “Jesus said that the world would know that we belong to Him by how we love.” I’m agnostic, but I really respect my brother, especially after he helped my transgender nephew(my sister’s child) to come out to the family.
@@libbycollins9349Jesus believed in eternal suffering and fire and brimstone for non believers. He loved you if you were a follower... Sound familiar?
@@Jimmy_Cream No, I don't think it sounds familiar. I’m recalling that if someone calls another a fool he is liable to the fires of Gehenna. There is the parable about poor Lazarus covered in sores ignored by the rich man. Lazarus went to heaven and the rich man who had ignored the poor who suffered went to hell. But some of Jesus’ last words were Father, forgive them, they don’t know what they’re doing. Maybe you give me citations to what you are referring to. Thanks.
This was like my grandfather. He was in a cult in his own right (The church hosted Jim Jones one time). However, he believed the same in that Trump co-opted Christianity and refused to support him. It was one of the few times I respected him.
I'm Italian and we lived through the Berlusconi cult 30 years ago. At the time there was a saying we had: "I don't fear Berlusconi in himself, I fear Berlusconi in myself".
I am Italian liker you, I live in the US, and I can tell you as a fact that Berlusconi was a gentlemen compared to Trump, certainly not so far right as Trump.
@@floretta65 Berlusconi wasn't as stupid as the senile demented orange criminal, yes. But a gentleman? Calling Germany's Chancellor Angela Merkel "an unfuckable fat ass"? Countless charges for tax fraud, accounting fraud, bribery, and abuse of minors? We all remember his bunga-bunga parties... Not as right as 🎃??? Berlusconi, the founder of a post-fascist party, worshipping Il Duce??? A close friend to Putin? You must be kidding. 🇮🇹
@@Justabottleofwater yes but the pay is a lot lower apparently. The upside is you don’t have to pre-authorize any treatments, or ask anybody for their credit card. We also don’t have school shootings in any meaningful statistic.
Sums up the GOP and Fox entertainment News, but who controls them? The elites have purchased and installed members in our government at every level and own MSM, where they peddle their venomous snake oils to the masses. Trump is but a tool, worn out and soon to be discarded. It will not end with him.
I am so glad that some of my family turned away from trump. They were so excited by him in 2016, but even by the 2020 election, some of them said dump trump.
Well many peoples have a distrust in what they believe to be "the government" politicians promise the shy and hand you dirt. Its happened over and over. They are looking for a change.
Don't forget the October Surprise of Republican Protestant FBI Director Comey making a TV announcement that the investigation of Hillary Clinton's EMAILS!!! had been re-opened, a week before elections.
Germans loved Hitler in the 1930's. Look how that worked out for them. Trump is the second coming of Hitler. This country is in real trouble. This is NOT just another election.
The more crimes they say he's committed, the more likely it's all a lie. The more his finances are attacked, the more likely it's just envy. Those who question his mental health don't know ego is needed to succeed against all the criticism. Any claims of sexual assault are just gold diggers out for his money. Their rationalizations are wrapped tighter than baseball twine.
Dr. Hassan is referencing the B.I.T.E. model, which is the model used to determine how culty a cult is by the kind of controls that they use over their members. B.I.T.E. stands for Behavioral control, Information control, Thought control and Emotional control and you can absolutely apply it to MAGA.
As an ex-Mormon I can relate to what this guys says so much. The similarities between the Trump Cult and Mormon Cult are uncanny. It’s very interesting to see how the thought process, attitudes, and everything else “culty” are the same between the both of them.
👆Which is why Utah has become a bastion of MAGA supporters. Just because something is familiar, it doesn’t mean it is good for you. And in this case, the whole country and western democracy.
I live in the US and I too am amazed that people are so wrapped up in his BS. I have said all along it’s a cult. When I heard an 80 something year old woman say “he is bigger than God” my jaw hit the floor. Scary. If he wins this election I am seriously considering leaving this country. I fear what it will become.
Have you ever visited rural America? Have you spent any time in the South? There are lots of people with grievances who believe their boy is the only solution. Just like fascism in Europe. same shit. It's interesting to me when foreigners say they're clueless why anyone would vote for trump- history is full of examples. We here in America aren't immune.
I’m reading a book titled “How to Deal with Toxic People” sent to me by a friend because my oldest daughter is in the homeschool cult; out of anger she dumped her 16 year old son in front of a homeless shelter 2 weeks before Christmas with no money, no phone, and now is in custody of his father. When back in town he stays with me (G’ma) because I don’t think 🤔 her treatment of my beloved grandson was right. And it has literally split our family and she is so toxic her other children fear her to the point of shunning me. The whole world 🌎 seems backwards to me - wrongs, such as leading a violent insurrection, is acceptable now. But these will NEVER be okay to this 77 year old widow!
I appreciate what Dr is saying here. I'm just done being the "bigger or better person" to those who chose to verbally assault anyone who disagreed with them. My door is permanently closed to weak and crazy.
They call them fake news anyway. They only watch things that tell them what they want to hear. If you mention Trump in a negative, they automatically shut down their hearing. Its maddening. I just stopped, I can't deal. Eight years has been too long.
Not just madness... his ignorance, lying, hatred, and his inciting violence against Americans - some of them who have families that have been here much longer than his.
Most cults don’t affect our lives directly so we can exhibit compassion toward them. But the Trump cult is different. It affects our way of life, our country and will have detrimental change to our freedoms. It is very hard to have compassion toward someone that wants to take that all away.
It amazes me how people support someone that has publicly done so many horrible things. I don't know what their limit is when it comes to supporting him.
I'm the only liberal in my family and they are convinced it's because I have a mental disorder (I've been diagnosed with bipolar disorder). My parents are divorced and I'm a full-time caregiver to my Dad. He still considers himself a conservative Republican but doesn't like Trump. A lot of it probably has to do with the fact that I show him actual sources that prove Trump is a liar and con artist. My mom, however, still fully supports him. Her husband is a far-right Trump follower and I'm guessing he has convinced her that Trump is the savior that they need. They only get their news from conservative media and anything negative about Trump is "fake news". It's sad to watch. I was living with them in 2020 and when my stepfather found out I voted for Biden (from my mom), he lost it. Yelling, screaming, threatening my life....to the point I had to call the cops and move out. It's truly scary.
Ya, Christian cultists and Republicans are disgusting people! Cannot stand being around them when they continually spread their hate and lies. All against their best interests.
@@doreenbritz131 the issue is that harris is female. just like clinton, she won the popular vote by 1% but the committee chose the sunburned guy. so if things get close, i fear the chihuahua wig will win. and then the simpsons will happen. after DT a female who has to save the world.
Exercise YOUR faith to get in shape for this awakening, because the Vernal Equinox of 2030, marks the beginning of the 3rd, 1000-year Days of Heaven since Jesus was crucified in 30 AD. 2 Peter 3: 8. It brings the fulfillment of His resurrection -- NOT the 2nd Coming in the flesh -- as Jesus, Himself explained -- John 16: 7-15, when the SPIRIT of TRUTH comes to all who will receive that Spirit (in the twinkling of an Internet eye) . . . and final judgement for the devil and dragon -- Revelation 12: 12-13. Daniel 7: 9-14. We have been told SOONER. 09/23/26 is exactly 3.5 years sooner. 10/10/26 is 42 new moons sooner. hint: The Rapture is a LIE. "Left Behind" is ass-backward fiction. Hundreds of millions deceived by false prophets. Trump is an antichrist -- there is no THE antichrist. The Dems CANNOT save us. Q cues the coup.
It was Ronald Reagan who shut down most psychiatric wards and special hospitals or clinics that catered to the mentally impaired ....Project 2025 wants to abolish the Department of Education ...We need Education today more than ever ....!
Don't compare Trumpers to the mentally ill. On behalf of people with mental illness Trumpers are not mentally ill they're just awful people. (Doesn't mean they can't change.)
It's easy to understand --- you're for wars, corruption, lies, crime, illegal alien invasion, drug & human smuggling, sex trafficking & fascism --- & your parents are not for those things.
You do realise that your current President believes that the son of God was begotten not made, born of a virgin, suffered under Pontius Pilate, crucified, dead buried and on the 3rd day etc. So does President Obama, President Bush, President Clinton. In you look at President Bush snr funeral you can see them all proudly reciting The Nicene Creed. Oddly, the only one not doing so is President Trump. Apologist are such strange people in choosing him as their man
I love Steven Hassan. His information on cults is always spot on. I grew up in a religious cult. He was a tremendous help in deprogramming my thinking.
When Trump was elected, I spent the next 4 years reading Steve Hassan's work on cults and Bob Altemeyer's studies on authoritarianism. What Trump & Co. are about becomes very clear after that. It's easy to mesh the two concepts together and understand it. Also Jen Senko's doc and book explain the same thing in personal terms. The thing that makes the Trump Cult so powerful is the daily indoctrination by Fox et al right wing media. Without it they would eventually pull away. Also, read "Exvangelicals" by Sarah McCammon, which is great at explaining the fear part of the equation.
Thank you all SO MUCH for sharing this conversation!!! 🙏🔥💯🔥🙏 Narcissistic & codependent parenting feels a lot like being in a family cult, from my personal experience. So as infuriated as I am that there are people so blind to Trump's deception that they'd put the WHOLE world in danger, I understand the blindness. I hate what they're choosing to do, but I don't want them harmed or unduly harassed about it. I want to see them healed of the ill-usion. I'll know we're moving in a healthier direction for humanity once they're able to humble themselves & reunite with everyone they've been conditioned to hate. 💙 When we're all fighting together for each other, maybe we'll finally start being an advanced civilization instead of just saying it with empty words & a trashed planet.
Kamala supporter here. What about the undecided people? How can they not see the MAGA insanity? What other information do they need to understand the malignancy of Trump?
I'm baffled about the undecideds, too. How can they have witnessed 8 years of his lying and corruption and not know that he is a bad guy? If they don't know it by now, they never will.
@JF-iq1yx Yea, this sounds like what it really is all about with those "undecided" total bs and most likely 24/7 Trump fans. Always has been, always will be.
What is it like coming out of a 20 year brainwash? Do you feel anger? Like you were betrayed? Do you feel relief? Do you feel proud of yourself for your strength and tenacity? Or ashamed for the time spent believing untrue things? I have always wondered what it is like coming out the other end of a cult affiliation. I hope you feel proud of yourself and relieved. I hope you have that grace, humility and wisdom that comes from having descended into the darkness and rediscovering the light through hard work and the power of one's own conscience.
Every time I hear or read that the polls are close and the election will be close, it's like being retraumatized all over again. I just can't wrap my head around it.
It won't be any closer than it was in 2020. To think it will be is simply ignorant. Everything Trump has done has driven away far more people than it has attracted. His base is dwindling. In trying to appease the moderates abandoning him he is alienating what little base he has left. His campaign is imploding, and his trials are stacking up. Harris' favorability is higher than Biden's was in 2020, while Trump's is at its lowest. Add in overturning Roe and it's a perfect storm for a landmark landslide. Trump is already trying to save face by claiming the election will be corrupt if he loses in a landslide.
@@grandmaster5275overt modesty is for the insensitive and inadequate. Perhaps overt modesty got us in this mess. I propose we remind those who the dumb people are, wherever they are, so they never get too confident. So they are discouraged from voting. So they don’t hold back democracy for the next decade as well too. But that would be insensitive of me.
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The problem with trying to be warm and understanding to my Trump supporting sister is that she is completely and utterly incapable of critical thinking and is unwilling to do research when I pose questions about Trump or his policies. Not to mention, she's toxic and a narcissist herself. I avoid contact at all costs.
Yeah that's where I feel the advice given by the Dr. wasn't practical. You can't reach out to people who refuse to be reached. If it was that simple then it would be easy to de-program people in cults.
I think you have to already have in you what Trump brings out. Know what I mean? For the life of me I can't figure out why any other race or women support him. He is strictly a white, racist male kind of guy.
Sorry, I'm old and beyond being nice to cultists. I know one, another retiree like me. He used to bother us with his cultist propaganda. So I started tormenting him by exposing Trump's lies. My favorite quote I play on my phone for him to hear is Trump saying ''I don't care about you, I care about your vote'' It makes him see red. We rarely see him now when we go for coffee. Must be hanging out more with other cultists. Maybe God will punish me for this when I kick the bucket, it's what the wife says anyway. Frankly, I don't care.
@@ManicMindTrick Just an old man having fun. What else am I suppose to do, wear a clown suit, wave a Trump flag and spread conspiracy about a resurrected JFK Jr? :)
My husband and I recently listened to "The Cult of Trump" while on a road trip. WOW! Steven hits the nail on the head! Read/listen to this book. It's worth your time.
Yep, and his book illustrations kinda help too. But surprisingly Hasan never gives any reason *_why_* some folks seem more 'susceptible' to cults. Oh sure, his book explains that back when he got involved with the Moonies, he was still pretty young and going thru a failed romance... even though not _every_ disappointed lover necessarily agrees that joining a _Cult_ is the only 'Solution'.
Is it on TH-cam? I've listened to *Too Much and Not Enough* Had Mary's dad run his dad's business, this might not be happening, but Fred Trump Sr. was a MONSTER who 'raised' his kids by the credo "DIVIDE AND CONQUER" Now Donald is doing it to America. PLEASE, AMERICA! If all some of you have in common with Kamala Harris is your belief in the right to vote, go there! Because you may well lose it under Trump. The RIGHT TO VOTE is FOUNDATIONAL. It's the bedrock from which all the other freedoms come.
I don’t agree. I think many Maga extremist can’t disavow trump, because they have surrounded themselves with like thinkers, and will be attacked, either physically or mentally. Many will cast their votes against trump.
@@libbycollins9349 should have. Instead he chooses to play song recordings he doesn't have permission to play & refuses to stop even after the artists and bands demand he stop.
You sound as cultish as MAGA with all the blue hearts, the random capitalization, and telling someone to vote your way. MAGA is a legit cult, but left leaning fanatics are just as cringe. Sorry, dude.
I have a bestfriend who can criticize me in a caring way. He points out my lies and flaws, but never in a toxic way-only when the topic comes up. However, when it comes to Trump, my friend sees him as completely honest. He's only mentioned a few of Trump's faults, but none of Trump's actions are deal breakers for him. We’re both aware of each other's political views and have had a few discussions about politics in the past. Nowadays, I choose to stay quiet and avoid engaging in political conversations. He also knows about my non-theistic religious perspective, which he once tried to bring up during a political conversation. Trump is dangerous.
Tim Pool is a victim!! He was restrained, forcibly is it said, by Russian intelligence agents. They were going to sic TREN DE ARAGUA on him!!! Do you who TREN DE ARAGUA is??? AN ARMED VENEZUELAN GANG!!! Imported by Harris to take over American cities!!! Tim had to take the Russian money in order to pay for protection. He was protecting his family!!!
The point is that it is emotional. Reasonable/rationale people like us do not understand the appeal. We see the mendacious, malignant person. They see the answer to everything.
@@notesfromleisa-land They see a man who says and does awful things that they admire. They see a man who makes them feel good for being bigots and hateful.
America is sinking. The middle class melting away. Lots of communities are hurting. Polarization increasing. New technology emerging. The country was ripe and ready for a Trump-like character.
Yes!! I see that in my son in-law and it is CRAZY! I worry all the time for my daughter and grandchildren now she was not raised that way and I can’t figure it out anymore. It’s sad. She’s so isolated now.
So you need to make sure to keep good contact with your daughter, let her know you will always be there for her and her children. One of these days she will reach out for your help, just make sure you are there to help right away.
@@kontrygrll01amerika54 TY oh yes I do. It’s just hard to talk when the hubby is ALWAYS THERE! there’s soooo much more… one thing is They moved back to our home state. For 10+ yrs she was in AZ. I think I even had a nervous breakdown because I was flying there several times a month. Will say I do think i seen her more then though?? 🤷♀️
@@jlozano281we need more like her. I love the harder but more effective way the guest advocated of treating them kindly as a start to get through to them. They will still be here after the election. ( Let it be Madame President 🙏🏻
He has the same toxic charisma as Hitler, wo screamed to his listeners ("followers"), "Do you want total war?" And they cheered back in unison, "Jaaa!"
Thank you I was raised Evangelical. I was thought not to believe in anyone as false idol. I don’t understand how a true Christian would believe in this awful person.
You have to look at different facets of those claiming to be 'true christians'. There are actually fringe far-right white christian nationalists and authoritarian-fascists behind a lot of the original social media posts that are then purposely highly amplified by others. Fear, religion, the previous belief in conspiracy theories and lies, and a restricted infosphere makes one more susceptible to accepting false info. You also have Russia, China, etc. amplifying with their own disinformation and lies with bots, etc. to sow hatred and distrust among the masses in democratic countries. Putin and others are masters at 'brainwashing' and disinformation techniques.
Please don't. He is a very bad expert who doesn't know what he is talking about. He reminds me of "cult experts" whom I had to deal with in my career in Child Protection services. They so readily denigrate folk they don't like. They wanted us to remove children from families who may have practice alternative faith but there was never any evidence they harm their children. I would visit the families and made assessment. Cult busters just make up shit-like this dude.
My family members who are Trumpers are so because our father was a Republican. They don’t realize that the Republican Party back then was very different than it is now
And they've been tuned into the lies of the Fox Propaganda Network this whole 21st Century. The brainwashing is real and it is HUGE. I don't think people realize how bad just that one element has been for the USA.
Give them a Republican opinion Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them. Barry Goldwater
So insightful...thanks for having Hassan on...I'm going to get his book The Cult of Trump...sounds to me that we have to learn a better method of undoing such corrupted minds!
I really enjoy your program! As a mental health therapist, I totally agree with your guest today. He explained very clearly, the dangerous personality of Trump. I hope people listened today and saw the light!
They almost never do ! I just don't understand the stubbornness of some people who continue to be friends with, work for or support politicians who undeniably exhibit criminal tendencies, a lack of a moral compass, unethical conduct or suspicious inconsistencies in their beliefs. I mean, the evidence of fraudsterism keeps piling up, is as clear as day and yet they choose to continue to deny any of it exists, greatly minimize its severity or blame shift.
Intellectually I really understand and appreciate what Hassan is saying about reaching MAGA cult members. Emotionally though I’m so pissed off at them that it’s difficult to follow his instructions on reaching them.
I talked kindly to someone on the internet today that repeated a lie about Harris. I mentioned that I had been a republican most of my lfe. I wrote why I didn't vote for Trump. I told them how Harris's speeches are uplifting like John F. Kennedy was like. I asked them to listen to some of her speeches and go by how positive she makes us feel. I don't know of it makes a difference to respond that way, but if it does, that will be good. At least I tried.
Thanks for being a decent and reasonable human being. I do wish David were more like you. He was, until he turned to the dark side and started promoting fascist ideas like "deprograming" and culling American citizens. You can find the video by following the search below. "Experts" in the science of eugenics explained why "irredeemable, incompetent, people lacking mental capacity, uninformed, low information, retrograde, religious, and who have no connection to reality” as David calls 34 million of his fellow American citizens, needed to be sterilized against their will in the 1920's and 30's. Wonder if this "expert" also wants to "deprogram" another 34 million Americans that David doesn't seem to want to cull from the herd of humanity. Search: (David Pakman Trump's rally flooded with cult members, brains failing badly).
Yes! Keep going! Share your story! I've been doing the same. I frequently hear something like "I'm glad to hear you say that." When I share my political views with MAGA members. They have vilified democrats and put them in a box. Show them we are people too with differing views and concerns. Good job! Keep it up!
@@babette217 I have had so much more success doing the same. Rather than calling them "deplorable" & " irredeemable" and then promising to "formally deprogram" them like David Packman does. If we lose this election, it will be because of people like David.
Good for you, keep going. I'd rather bring back the age where we can have respectful disagreements, and also when those disagreements don't advocate for robbing me of my rights.
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Thank you for the good information. Maga is a cult.
@donaldotrumpriguez2024 there's help for MAGA CULT!
😅😅😅 you drank that koolaide with out a chaser. @donaldotrumpriguez2024
Hej David, you might want to interview Dr. Jeremy Sherman. He is intelligentsia with humour! His series on how to talk to tRump cultists is BRILLIANT!!! 👍
All of those approaches to getting through to MAGA victims are smart. But, even if you can avoid, “speaking down,” to them, you have to keep in mind that you’re likely dealing with someone of a much lower IQ than you. That’s not a jibe, or a quip. It is the GOP strategy. It runs all the way back to McNamara’s Morons from the Vietnam War, and a branch of very deliberate exploitation of those who feel left behind, who are mostly people of lower thinking ability.
"It is easier to con a man then to convince him that he has been conned"
~ Mark Twain
I believe that! (Funny thing the Dems are "masters" of that)! Forced Vax, Higher Taxes, Drag queens in kids schools, etc ("By the "Fruits" you shall know them"!)
No one wants to accept or admit they've been had.
So they double down to be fooled again and again. It makes no sense.
@@anonymoose116 Very true! (You are right) thats the Dems "playbook" (Its hard to not try and save face). Policies and issues that effect and are vastly more important to America than a particular politician or personality!
@nute742 what's the "dems playbook."
I was speaking specifically about Trumpers. Its now a cult, not just a political movement.
Twain was a badass!!
The worst thing about Trump isn't what we've learned about him, it's what we've learned about our family, friends and neighbors that still support him.
So true. I have shed friends as soon as I found out they were Trump supporters and I don't even live in US.
I live in the US and I've had to dump friends and family members. Even a boy friend that I loved. I don't need stupid people around me.
@@ianreed9571 🙌🙃😵💫
Absolutely. The people who raised us instilled in us values that they never actually possessed themselves. Somehow they were able to do enough lip service to the “right thing” that we picked up on it and internalized the actual goodness. I was so surprised to realize that when my family went off the deep end for Trump. I got married in Oct 2016 and had an awesome family honeymoon (my parents, my daughter from my first marriage, his parents and my aunt and her s.o. all went on a cruise together after we got married on the ship) and I’m still angry that one of my most vivid memories of the honeymoon is my dad *screaming* at the taxi driver in Nassau about how he would rather have a “strong” president like Trump and Putin than a Democrat. They’re still in the cult.
Oh yeah it was pretty easy to get rid of them though because it was just the latest in a long line of stupid choices. Like the uncle who got scammed out of everything he owned by MLMs on 4 separate occasions, who then got just as hooked on the Trump cult and surprise surprise, lost everything there too. Didn't even go to his funeral. Just stopped by his grave when I was in town the year after so I could take a leak before getting on the highway.
When I was a child, I would see some people in Manhattan with a sign that read, " The world will end tomorrow." I asked my mother what happened when the next day came and the world didn't end. She said they would go out with the sign again. That's what MAGA reminds me of.
Very good point. The truth doesn't seem to have any effect on them.
Mental illness is a major issue. Also, many people have poor intelligence. Using the distribution curve, I did the math and learned that there are about ~46 million Americans with an IQ below 85.
@@spindriftbeach6082Exactly! Even when it stares them in the face.
We had the same mother. So simple but accurate
WOW 😮
People in a cult don't know that they are in a cult. They think everyone else is weird.
I keep telling progressive maniacs they're in a cult but they don't see it.
How can you not know?
@@JeffCarrozzoCognitive dissonance and willful ignorance are a helluva drug
@@Coyoteonthemoonyes like falling in love with a narcissist
Ahh yes kind of like the woke cult
The only difference between Donald Trump and Jim Jones is that Trump would charge you for the kool-aid!
And he'd never shoot himself.
Funny but true.
Yeah but it wouldn't be actual Kool-aid but some garbage. And then he wouldn't declare it on his tax return
& he is the arsenic
@spindriftbeach6082 .... his cult wants a nasty old man who wears diapers & stinks really bad. FACTS ... maby that's why they haven't put him in prison yet, no one wants to change him , like they had to do when he was on the Apprentice. Someone needs to rub his face in it. 🤮
BRAINWASHING 101:
1. Get people afraid of something.
2. Get people angry at the thing they fear.
3. Say I am the only one that can fix your fear.
4. Repeat steps 1 - 3 over and over again.
In india bjp doing same thing
Democrats are doing the same exact thing.
Wow. So simple to brainwash. I'm wondering though could the fear/ignorance had already been there and along comes the loud speaker to represent the leader of the fearful/ignorant people....and then they worship him and thrive off of his very breathe even if what he speaks is only fear mongering and edifying himself as savior...even though it's the ultimate deceit.
God please free these people mentally and spiritually from fear, hate, and ignorance please. In Jesus name, Amen.
You know indoctrination works both ways. Theres only two choices, pick your flavor. Being confrontational bias hurts us as a whole.
Roman rule still fell in Judea despite that "fear" strategy of GAUL.
I once asked my maga mom if she could say one thing -- just ONE thing -- that she didn't like about trump. She could not answer. That's when I knew it was a cult.
I am so thankful I have no family members in trump's cult.
@@buffycat4641 same here.
@@dropkgirl7157 Cognitive dissonance of the brainwashed.
@@buffycat4641 We can't understand why half of Americans can't see him for what he is. Convicted felon, traitor, conman and ugly.
I’m so sorry for your loss…
I’m glad someone put this into words. It’s never the dislike of Biden or Kamala that baffles me. It’s the blind devotion to Trump I can’t wrap my head around. Like if you’re on the fence of who to vote for I can understand you might lean either way. But the blind devotion “can do no wrong” attitude people have for Trump is insane. The amount of people that let him get away with things they’ve just criticized someone else for is so obvious I just don’t get how so many people don’t see it.
The fact he won absolutely baffles me these people defend him like he knows who they are😂
i want to feel sorry that they are so uneducated but idc anymore
Intelligence does not always come from education. As part of the saying at McDonald's goes " there are a lot of educated idiots". Education also does not give you common sense.
@@bonsaileo9555 Data does show college-educated people are much more likely to vote Dem. Until they become so rich and start to believe they deserve more than anyone else - then a certain % become Repubs.
I think it's emotional intelligence, self awareness and introspection those individuals are truly lacking.
Normally I’d feel sorry for the victims of a cult. Normally
Normally, yes.
But the ''religious'' ones supporting Trump, really?
''I grab'em by the p and they let me do it because I'm a star''?
Freaking hypocritical, I despise them.
''I grab'em by the (you know what) and they let me do it because I'm a star''
What does that say about you, ''religious'' people?
If it were not so dangerously lethal to the United States.
Nope, never. Darwinisn.
I absolutely cannot apologize to my MAGA family, as he suggests. I had to cut them off because they became verbally abusive to me. The relationships became too toxic for me to maintain.
Ahh, I'm so sorry! Yeh, my in-laws stepped over the line back in 2008 by accosting me for having a little blue dot on my car. We've never been the same since. They've found every way to try & disown/dislike me. 😞💙💙💙
I'm so sorry for your predicament. I'm right there with you. One side of my family is highly educated and despise Trump. The other side loves Trump but can't explain why. I am at a loss! I refuse to talk about politics with that side. I refuse to lose my relationships with them for this nutcase! He can be forgotten, my family is important to the rest of my life! I will vote Democrat completely down the line. I have always voted my heart and instincts. I have voted mostly for Democrat but have also voted for Republicans. Lately, they have really alarmed me with their conspiracy theories and specious lies as never before. I worked with the insane for years, and they remind me of those pitiful patients. Flights of fancy and delusions of grandeur are very common among them. If they were confinded to an institution, I would feel sorry for them. Unfortunately, they run wild and loose in this country! Maybe it wasn't a great idea to close down the psychiatric centers en masses because the Republicans didn't want to pay for their care anymore 😕. We sure could use them now! I get that the training wasn't the best, but we could have improved the system if we had given it half a chance. We need someplace safe to put people like MTG, DJT, Steven Miller, Matt Geatz, etc.
We've all lost friends and family due to this disease called MAGA or Trumpism. I sympathize.
@@margaretcortes9809Ted Cruz, Tom Cotton, Mike Johnson, Lindsey Graham and Trump himself would all need a room!
The most important relationship you have, the first responsibility you have, is to yourself and your own self care. Looking after yourself sometimes means removing yourself from a toxic relationship.
It is a cult leader's first goal to separate people from their family and social circle.
First is to divide people (everyone) to create a weaker society.
They isolate people and then demonize any and all outside information. "Fake news media" has become part of the modern lexicon. the lie is "I'm the truth, and everyone else is lying to you".
That's exactly what Trump did. Our nation is divided because of him. It's us verses MAGA. We might be able to get rid of Trump, but it will not be easy to elimate MAGA. As long as they're involved in our government, there will be another Trump or worse running next time around. It's very important at this point to keep voting blue up and down the ballot until the Republican party can rebuild back to where they once were without MAGA...
And in Trump's case, the first thing he did was divide people from their sources of non-biased and truthful information. With Fox's help, people believed that only HE tells the truth. Of course, Legacy Media was never truly un-biased, the message was subtly manipulated. But at least there were guardrails insuring truth, if not immediately, then sooner or later when some reporter would get caught, and then was fired. But in MAGA, wild-haired conspiracy theories run unchecked and supported by this weird new right-wing cult media.
And a narcissist's.
FINALLY!!! someone talking about this topic. FINALLY!!! Thank you. Please keep this topic on the front page. Mental health
Absolutely!! I hope yall keep attacking ur betters, you'll never win another election.
Just about my whole family have descended to the MAGA cult. They think I’m the weird one. We can’t pick and choose our family, but I sure as hell would like for them to be deprogrammed. It’s hell.
I feel for you. My brother was a psychopath and my mother was his enabler so I know what it is like to be the odd one out. All you can do is keep your head down and hope the election goes your way. You cannot change their minds. Only they can do that. Good luck.
@@theinclusivetutor6791… thank you.
Same here I’m the outcast
@@mariepresho3653…. It’s awful. My uncle told me I was going to hell for being a liberal. My mother took his side.
I feel as though the MAGA cult has highjacked religion and the American Flag. I live in a small Southern town where there’s a church on every corner. One day…. I will move far from here.
My nephew who was born in a religious cult is now in the Proud boys Cult. He has a small arsenal and has threatened to “take us all out” during “The Storm.” I have neighbors on the same bandwagon. The danger is real.
Belief him and don't be caught off guard.
I hope you have reported him. Not just for your safety, but for your community and schools.
Hopefully you have relayed these threats to law enforcement
I hope you take these threats as real and report him, seriously 😮
Please tell me you’ve contacted the FBI about him😳😱
The reason his followers have sunk to cult levels, is because he has made indecency acceptable, *he has freed them from the constraints of decency* .
He has liberated them from having to be moral, from having to demonstrate empathy, of having to be just to everyone. He has shown them that ignorance is as powerful as knowledge, so he has freed them from having to seek it.
He has not only allowed them to be their worst, not just to free their bigotry, but to be proud of it, to be proud of their worse instincts, and so they love him for it, he is the messiah who has set them free of decency ,
This is it in a nutshell!
Yessssssdd. That's exactly it
He made wicked okay.
Astute.
Very well said. That’s exactly right. They were loosely confederated under the Tea Party and were ripe for him to pluck them.
My adult son is in the MAGA cult. I live with him. We were so close when he was growing up.
He’s started changing before Trump came along. He’s always been extremely stubborn and I don’t see a way back for him.
I’ve lost my son.
I'm so sorry for the separation you're experiencing. It's so hard to lose someone who you see everyday. It feels like too much right now, but there's always hope for change. I hope you get your son back one day.
@ thank you❤️
Do you know if he is consuming manosphere content as well?
Most cults in the past were fringe and not a threat to our entire country, until now.
Trump preaches violence and hate.
The KKK had 6 million members in the 1920s. I think it's fair to say it had cult-like features. Maybe not a threat to the entire country as you say but not entirely fringe either.
This Trump phenomenon is a different type of cult though and is much more focused around one single person. More akin to 1930s Germany.
Trumpism is also a threat to the rest of the world.
Every foreigner I meet (Europeans and Central Americans, anyway) are terrified of his return. The first Q they ask, with great concern, upon making my acquaintance and learning I'm an American is, "Do you think HE will come back?" They don't have to even say whom they mean, it's understood, as with Hitler and Stalin in the past.
Exactly. Some of these tips do not translate.
I will never understand the MAGA cult at this point
Breaking News
It is reportedly confirmed Crapman is suffering from - Trump Derangement Syndrome
We all wish Crapman a speedy recovery - hehehehe
It's based completely on fear and ignorance.
@@grghkllb3875 Mostly ignorance thought
@@grghkllb3875 They're bonded by stupidity.
@@grghkllb3875Add hate to that.
He is MOST DEFINITELY a malignant narcissist
+ psychopath!
Add in pathological liar, with profound ignorance.
A malignant narcissistic liar with acute solipsism.
And we suspect he wears makeup
Anything new.?
@@tropicalsnow is there still any doubt! LOL
David I am deeply ashamed of my country. It’s the death of Democracy.
Both parties are the death of democracy. Both parties are off the charts. How do people not see this.
Sure Trump is dangerous but I blame the media outlets who promote him and don't call out his BS.
There is plenty of blame to go around.
Yep the Trump enablers are destroying America just to make a lot of money for an Australian family
Well after all the media is controlled by the elites. So they have to read what comes up on the teleprompter. That’s if they want there job.
Agreed, why aren’t they calling him out for all the consistent lies.
@@silverman5707I wonder the same thing. I was just watching MSNBC and one the news anchor asked the same question. They were discussing his most recent speech in front of elite group when ask DT about childcare. I’m like he must have some dirt on people bcuz they sat there and didn’t say a word . They applauded him for his word salad.
I don't know how to be warm and non-confrontational with people who are so hateful and some who are actively seeking to harm me and people I love.
It's okay to not be up for that. It's not your responsibility to save people from this cult.
@@xbjrrtcThis cult will be the direct cause of the deaths of millions of women, school children, lgbtq, poc, and immigrants across the nation. It’s not right to sit back and let it happen.
I don’t want to engage with MAGA, the ones I knew/know are aggressive, loud and totally not open for any sane discussion about politics. Very disrespectful people who are 100% all in. So, unfortunately I can’t go there. The religious fanatics are the same.
I totally understand. I felt like that too. Yet over the years, I feel sorry for their lack of upbringing, and education. They are literally, indoctrinated in the home from birth, and don't know anything else. Like a racist, it's what you hear in the home from day one.
This man is very tender and compassionate, wonderful😊❤
Are we still doing this? It's been a 9 year nightmare
Thank the DoJ. Trump has worked the interstices/gaps/less-defined areas in the law so effectively, and thrown so much money at his defense against various charges, that they have never known how to handle him. They are comfortable operating only on the basis of precedent -- but for him there is no precedent. Nobody wants to be the first to act, or to have his legal judgment possibly rejected and reversed. Therefore they do almost nothing, and what little they do is done very slowly and cautiously. The legal beagles won't save us. We need to vote.
After the death of this Trump there WILL be other 'Trumps'. Scary reality.
@@roberthaworth8991 I agree with everything you said except the vote part. Voting is one aspect of democracy, another is social trust in justice and accountability. You can't use one to correct the breakdown of the other. You could lose the vote, you could win and think that means you banished the ills that he represents. What we need is courage and principles, and the Democrats have shown they enjoy having Trump as cover, to fundraise off, to point at, to shore up their base. This is their failure. They had 4 years to nail him.
Unless you worked at one of the bankrupt AC casinos then it's a 30 year association, which you thought was over after the casino closed. He's like mold..
more deleted comments lol the more they lie about donald trump and make him in to so kind of supervillain the more they will wake people up to the truth
It's so hard to be warm and kind to MAGA folks. I was respectful for years, but grew tired of being treated badly by them. They were cruel, and I had to walk away for self preservation.
Exactly.
EXACTLY! He perhaps hasn't experienced the kind of hatred some of us have.
They are imitating Dear Leader, acting like him, repeating his words like he is Christ
I’m so glad to see the left finally get a backbone. I hate all the divisiveness but sometimes you have to go down in the trenches and fight back.
His bad character and personality has rubbed off on them, sadly.
Cat ladies, stand back and stand by. We are NOT going back. Vote Blue!!!
Cat ladies. Sounds like a cult.
😂😂😂💙💙💙
Amen we ain't going back vote 💙💙💙
@@gregorytyson995 A lesbian cult!
Cat men falling in line. Onward !
This was a delight to hear. As Trump said in his own vid...'you knew I was a snake when you took me in'.
Aussies support America's democracy. Vote blue for your democracy and stability around the world. 🇦🇺🇺🇸 💙💙💙
Thank you! Be careful though, because the extreme right-wing Nazies are worldwide!
💕🌏💕
Thanks! Voting blue all the way. And I am a former Republican.
Plan to vote for Kamala Harris. Sure would like to see Australia.
Fully endorse this ❤🇿🇦
I grew up in a cult. Trump is a leader of a cult.
@@glennamccabe9770Yes he is. You’re in denial!!! That’s what being in a cult is all about!
@@glennamccabe9770spoken like a true cult member 😂
Once you are free you are free indeed and knowing I'm never going back
@@glennamccabe9770The first step is realising and admitting you have a problem. Be brave.
@@glennamccabe9770Spotted the cult rapist follower
Thank you, Dr Hassen, for pointing out that Trumpism is not Evangelical Christianity.
It’s not the same, but it CAN’T survive without them. So, there’s that.
Freya, to me that is a distinction without much of a difference. If evangelical Christianity disappeared tomorrow, Trump would be functionally irrelevant.
@@kgunthorpeThere is another elephant in the room here.😂
@@davidwilkins5932It’s one of those legs on a 3-legged stool. 💙
No, but Evangelical Christianity is Trumpism.
Wonderful comments from the cult expert! I wish everybody would listen to him.
You know what cult members love to do - gaslight and deflect!! Guess who's been doing that for 5-6 decades?!??! That's right - LIBERALS!!!!!! Pot Meet Kettle!!!!
My brother is an evangelical pastor and really dislikes Trump and how he exploits Christianity. My brother empathizes being compassionate, open, and non-judgemental to live more Christ-like and quotes “Jesus said that the world would know that we belong to Him by how we love.” I’m agnostic, but I really respect my brother, especially after he helped my transgender nephew(my sister’s child) to come out to the family.
Jesus disliked religious hypocrites. He loved everyone.
So you respect members of one cult but not the other. How come?
@@libbycollins9349Jesus believed in eternal suffering and fire and brimstone for non believers. He loved you if you were a follower...
Sound familiar?
@@Jimmy_Cream No, I don't think it sounds familiar. I’m recalling that if someone calls another a fool he is liable to the fires of Gehenna. There is the parable about poor Lazarus covered in sores ignored by the rich man. Lazarus went to heaven and the rich man who had ignored the poor who suffered went to hell. But some of Jesus’ last words were Father, forgive them, they don’t know what they’re doing. Maybe you give me citations to what you are referring to. Thanks.
This was like my grandfather. He was in a cult in his own right (The church hosted Jim Jones one time). However, he believed the same in that Trump co-opted Christianity and refused to support him. It was one of the few times I respected him.
I'm Italian and we lived through the Berlusconi cult 30 years ago. At the time there was a saying we had: "I don't fear Berlusconi in himself, I fear Berlusconi in myself".
Didn't that jerk die recently?
And now you have to live under post-fascist Meloni...
@@Zorobbabel
Yep. In June 2023 at the age of 87.
I am Italian liker you, I live in the US, and I can tell you as a fact that Berlusconi was a gentlemen compared to Trump, certainly not so far right as Trump.
@@floretta65
Berlusconi wasn't as stupid as the senile demented orange criminal, yes. But a gentleman? Calling Germany's Chancellor Angela Merkel "an unfuckable fat ass"?
Countless charges for tax fraud, accounting fraud, bribery, and abuse of minors? We all remember his bunga-bunga parties...
Not as right as 🎃??? Berlusconi, the founder of a post-fascist party, worshipping Il Duce??? A close friend to Putin?
You must be kidding. 🇮🇹
Can't believe Trump still has half of America liking him. Thank God i'm Canadian.
If trump wins I’m moving to Canada. Need any nurses?
We can’t believe it either 😳
It's actually below 43%
@@jamesmcbeth4463 right, it only feels like half because the electoral college is affirmative action for republicans
@@Justabottleofwater yes but the pay is a lot lower apparently. The upside is you don’t have to pre-authorize any treatments, or ask anybody for their credit card. We also don’t have school shootings in any meaningful statistic.
Just listened to this for a second time. Important, compassionate, and powerful.
Trump does to his followers a similar method of manipulation that some pastors do. Feed them what they want to hear and not what they need to hear!
He’s already said if you say anything long enough anyone will believe it!!!😢😢😢😢😢
And a heavy dose of fear to keep em in the pews with open pocketbooks and wallets!
GOOD POINT😊
Sums up the GOP and Fox entertainment News, but who controls them? The elites have purchased and installed members in our government at every level and own MSM, where they peddle their venomous snake oils to the masses. Trump is but a tool, worn out and soon to be discarded. It will not end with him.
Really @@user-unionwrestling that sounds like any other politician
I am so glad that some of my family turned away from trump. They were so excited by him in 2016, but even by the 2020 election, some of them said dump trump.
Sounds like a relatively smart bunch! (Wish my in-laws would dump him!)smh😞💙
Sounds like they may be more moderate. My hope is that enough people can be deprogrammed by Nov. 5
Glad to hear your family is not supporting Trump this time 😉
Understanding how they managed to break the spell... or maybe they were just curious at first?
Well many peoples have a distrust in what they believe to be "the government" politicians promise the shy and hand you dirt. Its happened over and over. They are looking for a change.
Hilary was winning when we went to sleep we woke up traumatized
Yessssss...and still
True!
I remember going to work the next day and everyone was quiet, stunned, shocked.
Don't forget the October Surprise of Republican Protestant FBI Director Comey making a TV announcement that the investigation of Hillary Clinton's EMAILS!!! had been re-opened, a week before elections.
@@cjc2… me, too.
It's such a treat to have Dr. Hassan's insightful intelligence applied to Trump and his followers.
When they are in a cult, they can’t see it. Germany, 1933.
Germans loved Hitler in the 1930's. Look how that worked out for them. Trump is the second coming of Hitler. This country is in real trouble. This is NOT just another election.
And that's recent history. Those events are not even 100 years old yet.
this reminds me of Unbreakable Kimmie Schmitt,, but less funny,, vote blue please !!!
I've found when people tell you nothing will change their mind, believe them.
The more crimes they say he's committed, the more likely it's all a lie.
The more his finances are attacked, the more likely it's just envy.
Those who question his mental health don't know ego is needed to succeed against all the criticism.
Any claims of sexual assault are just gold diggers out for his money.
Their rationalizations are wrapped tighter than baseball twine.
Like the old wall poster, "My mind is made up. Don't confuse me with the facts."
Exactly!!!
Thanks David for keeping the world informed on the real election news🇺🇸💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸
Breaking News
It is reportedly confirmed Crapman is suffering from - Trump Derangement Syndrome
We all wish Crapman a speedy recovery - hehehehe
Laughable. But thanks for the chuckle.
@@ericred8124
Dumbocrats are always laughable
@@pphil1267you are in a cult
@@ericred8124you support a felon get help
''What you don't want to do ever is speak down to anyone ever.''
Oh, it's far too late for that approach I'm afraid.
Dr. Hassan is referencing the B.I.T.E. model, which is the model used to determine how culty a cult is by the kind of controls that they use over their members. B.I.T.E. stands for Behavioral control, Information control, Thought control and Emotional control and you can absolutely apply it to MAGA.
Oh wow.
The Bite Model was taken from the original work of Robert Jay Lifton. Just giving credit where credit is due.
As an ex-Mormon I can relate to what this guys says so much. The similarities between the Trump Cult and Mormon Cult are uncanny. It’s very interesting to see how the thought process, attitudes, and everything else “culty” are the same between the both of them.
👆Which is why Utah has become a bastion of MAGA supporters. Just because something is familiar, it doesn’t mean it is good for you. And in this case, the whole country and western democracy.
Im a New Zealander and we are stunned and shocked anyone would vote for Trump. Its weird.
Can I move to New Zealand?
@toddb930 of course your welcome.
I live in the US and I too am amazed that people are so wrapped up in his BS. I have said all along it’s a cult. When I heard an 80 something year old woman say “he is bigger than God” my jaw hit the floor. Scary. If he wins this election I am seriously considering leaving this country. I fear what it will become.
Have you ever visited rural America? Have you spent any time in the South? There are lots of people with grievances who believe their boy is the only solution. Just like fascism in Europe. same shit. It's interesting to me when foreigners say they're clueless why anyone would vote for trump- history is full of examples. We here in America aren't immune.
@@chocolatecity2 -- and I would guess there are a lot of firearms in rural America in case they need to clean things up.
I’m reading a book titled “How to Deal with Toxic People” sent to me by a friend because my oldest daughter is in the homeschool cult; out of anger she dumped her 16 year old son in front of a homeless shelter 2 weeks before Christmas with no money, no phone, and now is in custody of his father. When back in town he stays with me (G’ma) because I don’t think 🤔 her treatment of my beloved grandson was right. And it has literally split our family and she is so toxic her other children fear her to the point of shunning me. The whole world 🌎 seems backwards to me - wrongs, such as leading a violent insurrection, is acceptable now. But these will NEVER be okay to this 77 year old widow!
God bless you for being there for your grandson. He's lucky to have you.
I'm sorry for your loss.
Was the book based on Stoicism? That is good stuff to help ground ones self.
So sorry my own mom is toxic narcissist and it is draining.
My heart goes out to you. It’s so sad, but you are strong enough to be able to support your grandson. Blessings to you.
I appreciate what Dr is saying here. I'm just done being the "bigger or better person" to those who chose to verbally assault anyone who disagreed with them. My door is permanently closed to weak and crazy.
Please Show and prove Donald Trumps madness to the Americans and the whole world . They deserve to know the truth .
Brainwashed!!!
As if it would be believed
It's very difficult because the corporate/mainstream media is refusing to do it.
They call them fake news anyway. They only watch things that tell them what they want to hear. If you mention Trump in a negative, they automatically shut down their hearing. Its maddening. I just stopped, I can't deal. Eight years has been too long.
Not just madness... his ignorance, lying, hatred, and his inciting violence against Americans - some of them who have families that have been here much longer than his.
Most cults don’t affect our lives directly so we can exhibit compassion toward them. But the Trump cult is different. It affects our way of life, our country and will have detrimental change to our freedoms. It is very hard to have compassion toward someone that wants to take that all away.
So very true
This brilliant doctor needs to be given air time on the major networks.
YES! Let’s ask the expert!!!
Give him a show on pbs. Each episode have it own cult. He has a silver tongue.
I've heard the Right doesn't like PBS.
@@duskonanyavarld1786 he has his own TH-cam channel easy to find!
Jon Stewart should interview him.
It amazes me how people support someone that has publicly done so many horrible things. I don't know what their limit is when it comes to supporting him.
I'm the only liberal in my family and they are convinced it's because I have a mental disorder (I've been diagnosed with bipolar disorder). My parents are divorced and I'm a full-time caregiver to my Dad. He still considers himself a conservative Republican but doesn't like Trump. A lot of it probably has to do with the fact that I show him actual sources that prove Trump is a liar and con artist. My mom, however, still fully supports him. Her husband is a far-right Trump follower and I'm guessing he has convinced her that Trump is the savior that they need. They only get their news from conservative media and anything negative about Trump is "fake news". It's sad to watch. I was living with them in 2020 and when my stepfather found out I voted for Biden (from my mom), he lost it. Yelling, screaming, threatening my life....to the point I had to call the cops and move out. It's truly scary.
Ya, Christian cultists and Republicans are disgusting people! Cannot stand being around them when they continually spread their hate and lies. All against their best interests.
That sucks. Trump is the worst thing to happen to our country in my lifetime
The Trump Cult is extremely abusive
@@doreenbritz131 the issue is that harris is female. just like clinton, she won the popular vote by 1% but the committee chose the sunburned guy. so if things get close, i fear the chihuahua wig will win. and then the simpsons will happen. after DT a female who has to save the world.
Oh my god, sorry to hear your story. Hope you’re ok.
I always find it interesting that MAGA people call left leaning people "woke" in their idiosyncratic way, when the opposite of woke is asleep!
Exercise YOUR faith to get in shape for this awakening, because the Vernal Equinox of 2030, marks the beginning of the 3rd, 1000-year Days of Heaven since Jesus was crucified in 30 AD. 2 Peter 3: 8. It brings the fulfillment of His resurrection -- NOT the 2nd Coming in the flesh -- as Jesus, Himself explained -- John 16: 7-15, when the SPIRIT of TRUTH comes to all who will receive that Spirit (in the twinkling of an Internet eye) . . . and final judgement for the devil and dragon -- Revelation 12: 12-13. Daniel 7: 9-14. We have been told SOONER. 09/23/26 is exactly 3.5 years sooner. 10/10/26 is 42 new moons sooner.
hint: The Rapture is a LIE. "Left Behind" is ass-backward fiction. Hundreds of millions deceived by false prophets. Trump is an antichrist -- there is no THE antichrist. The Dems CANNOT save us. Q cues the coup.
Jesus was woke. I don't get it either
Amen!
Yes! Woke - Awake and aware and seeing. Vs asleep, unaware, and blind!
the opposite of woke is asheep......
all those cuts to mental health care have really paid off for the republicans...!!
* And education.
It was Ronald Reagan who shut down most psychiatric wards and special hospitals or clinics that catered to the mentally impaired ....Project 2025 wants to abolish the Department of Education ...We need Education today more than ever ....!
Please don't denigrate the mentally ill
@@russellmiles2861 Not all mentally ill people support Trump but the supporters I know are not mentally healthy.
Don't compare Trumpers to the mentally ill. On behalf of people with mental illness Trumpers are not mentally ill they're just awful people. (Doesn't mean they can't change.)
Omg I’m so glad someone got a cult expert. I’m the daughter of maga parents and I can’t understand it
It's easy to understand --- you're for wars, corruption, lies, crime, illegal alien invasion, drug & human smuggling, sex trafficking & fascism --- & your parents are not for those things.
Fascinating. Critical thinking and cult-avoidance should be taught in schools, kindergarten through university.
It should but the right would call that indoctrination.
@@tansywelsh1636 Of course they would.
I agree. We definitely need to teach kids all about psychology.
You do realise that your current President believes that the son of God was begotten not made, born of a virgin, suffered under Pontius Pilate, crucified, dead buried and on the 3rd day etc. So does President Obama, President Bush, President Clinton. In you look at President Bush snr funeral you can see them all proudly reciting The Nicene Creed. Oddly, the only one not doing so is President Trump. Apologist are such strange people in choosing him as their man
@@tansywelsh1636correct
Ever since COVID & the Trump years I've come to the conclusion that there's way more gullible people than I ever imagined 🤔
Weak and gullible.
People also use denial as a coping mechanism too much, and long term denial turns into delusion.
Sad but true. Some of the people I loved the most, thought they were infallible , and they fell into the cult. 😢
Amazing, isn’t it?
Yes, and those people disappoint me.
I love Steven Hassan. His information on cults is always spot on. I grew up in a religious cult. He was a tremendous help in deprogramming my thinking.
Same! Hassan is a superhero sans cape. 😊
When Trump was elected, I spent the next 4 years reading Steve Hassan's work on cults and Bob Altemeyer's studies on authoritarianism. What Trump & Co. are about becomes very clear after that. It's easy to mesh the two concepts together and understand it. Also Jen Senko's doc and book explain the same thing in personal terms. The thing that makes the Trump Cult so powerful is the daily indoctrination by Fox et al right wing media. Without it they would eventually pull away. Also, read "Exvangelicals" by Sarah McCammon, which is great at explaining the fear part of the equation.
Me too!
Thank you all SO MUCH for sharing this conversation!!!
🙏🔥💯🔥🙏
Narcissistic & codependent parenting feels a lot like being in a family cult, from my personal experience.
So as infuriated as I am that there are people so blind to Trump's deception that they'd put the WHOLE world in danger, I understand the blindness. I hate what they're choosing to do, but I don't want them harmed or unduly harassed about it.
I want to see them healed of the ill-usion. I'll know we're moving in a healthier direction for humanity once they're able to humble themselves & reunite with everyone they've been conditioned to hate. 💙
When we're all fighting together for each other, maybe we'll finally start being an advanced civilization instead of just saying it with empty words & a trashed planet.
Kamala supporter here. What about the undecided people? How can they not see the MAGA insanity? What other information do they need to understand the malignancy of Trump?
I'm baffled about the undecideds, too. How can they have witnessed 8 years of his lying and corruption and not know that he is a bad guy? If they don't know it by now, they never will.
I think “undecided “ is maga but too afraid to admit it yet!
@JF-iq1yx Yea, this sounds like what it really is all about with those "undecided" total bs and most likely 24/7 Trump fans. Always has been, always will be.
after they vote for Harris, they too, can f...ukc off
They don't think he's that bad.
Steven Hassan is amazing. His book helped me get out of Mormonism. Thanks both!
Congratulations Peter.
Yes! Trump sounds like Jim Jones. I’ve noticed similar speech patterns. One noticeable is how he trails off at the end of sentences.
Jim was high af all.the time too...
@@deeperunderstanding7495 trump would never end his own life but having others kill everyone else, you betcha.
Lol😂 sorry those was the slaves who on left that want a covid vax that has was posienet
Jones was crazy but he didn’t have dementia. Trump is both.
He needs to drink the JJ KOOL AID ☠️
Excellent interview. Thank you.
I was in a cult for 20 years. This video is spot on 😢
What is it like coming out of a 20 year brainwash? Do you feel anger? Like you were betrayed? Do you feel relief? Do you feel proud of yourself for your strength and tenacity? Or ashamed for the time spent believing untrue things? I have always wondered what it is like coming out the other end of a cult affiliation. I hope you feel proud of yourself and relieved. I hope you have that grace, humility and wisdom that comes from having descended into the darkness and rediscovering the light through hard work and the power of one's own conscience.
@@violetgc6049 I had many mixed feelings. But it was the best decision my husband and I made. Life has been amazing and we have no regrets.❤️
The election will be close.
We need to seriously do everything we can to spread the word and get people to vote for Harris!
Every time I hear or read that the polls are close and the election will be close, it's like being retraumatized all over again. I just can't wrap my head around it.
@@adopequeenatyrantkingaboss8057Agreed, just the thought of Trump being president feels incomprehensible.
It won't be any closer than it was in 2020. To think it will be is simply ignorant. Everything Trump has done has driven away far more people than it has attracted. His base is dwindling. In trying to appease the moderates abandoning him he is alienating what little base he has left. His campaign is imploding, and his trials are stacking up. Harris' favorability is higher than Biden's was in 2020, while Trump's is at its lowest. Add in overturning Roe and it's a perfect storm for a landmark landslide. Trump is already trying to save face by claiming the election will be corrupt if he loses in a landslide.
Very close, and they are tied in about half of the battleground states.
Which is shocking.
As an intelligent, sensitive person, I'm so tired of babying dumb people. It's exhausting. 🙄🙄🙄
This will end on Nov 5
@@mrjuvy49 so their ignorance and stupidity just vanish?
the fact you literally call yourself an "intelligent, sensitive person" holds a lot of irony
@@grandmaster5275overt modesty is for the insensitive and inadequate. Perhaps overt modesty got us in this mess.
I propose we remind those who the dumb people are, wherever they are, so they never get too confident. So they are discouraged from voting. So they don’t hold back democracy for the next decade as well too. But that would be insensitive of me.
Sad but this man does not seem like a dumb person it can happen to intelligent thoughtful people.
As an lnvesting enthusiast, I often wonder how top level investors are able to become millionaires off investing. . I’ve been sitting on over $545K equity from a home sale and I’m not sure where to go from here, is it a good time to buy into stocks or do I wait for another opportunity?.
Well as you know bigger risk, bigger results, but such impeccable high-value trades are often carried out by pros.
People dismiss the importance of advisors until they are burned by their own emotions. I remember a couple of summers ago, following my lengthy divorce, I needed a good boost to assist my business stay alive, so I looked for qualified consultants and came across someone with the highest qualifications. She has helped me raise my reserve from $275k to $850k, despite inflation.
How can I participate in this? I sincerely aspire to establish a secure financial future and am eager to participate. Who is the driving force behind your success?
My CFA NICOLE ANASTASIA PLUMLEE a renowned figure in her line of work. I recommend researching her credentials further.
My CFA NICOLE ANASTASIA PLUMLEE a renowned figure in her line of work. I recommend researching her credentials further... She has many years of experience and is a valuable resource for anyone looking to navigate the financial market..
The problem with trying to be warm and understanding to my Trump supporting sister is that she is completely and utterly incapable of critical thinking and is unwilling to do research when I pose questions about Trump or his policies.
Not to mention, she's toxic and a narcissist herself. I avoid contact at all costs.
Yeah that's where I feel the advice given by the Dr. wasn't practical. You can't reach out to people who refuse to be reached. If it was that simple then it would be easy to de-program people in cults.
I think you have to already have in you what Trump brings out. Know what I mean? For the life of me I can't figure out why any other race or women support him. He is strictly a white, racist male kind of guy.
Leave it until trump is no more. When his influence disappears I’m thinking most of his worshippers will come to their senses
No, I'm afraid his 'legend' will live on and become even more 'messianic'.
@@jandrews6254
Same here.
Sorry, I'm old and beyond being nice to cultists. I know one, another retiree like me. He used to bother us with his cultist propaganda. So I started tormenting him by exposing Trump's lies. My favorite quote I play on my phone for him to hear is Trump saying ''I don't care about you, I care about your vote'' It makes him see red. We rarely see him now when we go for coffee. Must be hanging out more with other cultists. Maybe God will punish me for this when I kick the bucket, it's what the wife says anyway. Frankly, I don't care.
You two sound like Grumpy Old Men.
@@ManicMindTrick Just an old man having fun. What else am I suppose to do, wear a clown suit, wave a Trump flag and spread conspiracy about a resurrected JFK Jr? :)
@@pierrepellerin249 Grumpy Old Men made that way becuase of the IDIOCRACY PUSHED BY THE MAGA CULTISTS!!!!
God doesn't punish you for telling the truth, Sir! To me, you're a patriot!❤🩹🤍💙💙💙💙💙
God loves ya! ❤️
My husband and I recently listened to "The Cult of Trump" while on a road trip. WOW! Steven hits the nail on the head! Read/listen to this book. It's worth your time.
Yep, and his book illustrations kinda help too. But surprisingly Hasan never gives any reason *_why_* some folks seem more 'susceptible' to cults. Oh sure, his book explains that back when he got involved with the Moonies, he was still pretty young and going thru a failed romance... even though not _every_ disappointed lover necessarily agrees that joining a _Cult_ is the only 'Solution'.
@@LowenKM I am now listening to *The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump." It's written by 37 mental health experts. Also very good.
Is it on TH-cam? I've listened to *Too Much and Not Enough*
Had Mary's dad run his dad's business, this might not be happening, but Fred Trump Sr. was a MONSTER who 'raised' his kids by the credo "DIVIDE AND CONQUER" Now Donald is doing it to America.
PLEASE, AMERICA! If all some of you have in common with Kamala Harris is your belief in the right to vote, go there! Because you may well lose it under Trump.
The RIGHT TO VOTE is FOUNDATIONAL. It's the bedrock from which all the other freedoms come.
Fabulous. Good questions David, and Dr. Hassan nailed the key points.
Voting for president not a dictator. Get him off the ballot
So Sad almost half the USA is with Humpty. Pathetic!! USA USA 🇺🇸
I don’t agree. I think many Maga extremist can’t disavow trump, because they have surrounded themselves with like thinkers, and will be attacked, either physically or mentally. Many will cast their votes against trump.
Not half. Less than half of the voting age population. They're just louder and very active - and afraid of change.
33% are all in, and they are a large part of the Republican voters is all. Not half of the USA.
@@rachaelkpYep! Exactly… no way 50%. It’s horrible enough that 74 MAGA million voted for him in 2020. That’s mind boggling!
The meaning of average IQ is that half are above average and half below. Guess which half are MAGAts.
Deliverance meets idiocy you get Trump supporters!! Vote blue
Idiocracy! The movie that predicted it all!!
@@dianadavis6121Second time in 2 videos to reference that movie.. weird lol
@@kalipw0210 ?
Now we need a banjo player at the rallies.
@@libbycollins9349 should have. Instead he chooses to play song recordings he doesn't have permission to play & refuses to stop even after the artists and bands demand he stop.
Excellent information thanks so much💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
This fella has absolutely got every angle of this trump cult scenario 100% correct
💙EARLY VOTING CAN PREVENT UNWANTED PRESIDENCY.
💙💙💙Go and vote all blue ballot down, don’t forget local elections!.❤
You sound as cultish as MAGA with all the blue hearts, the random capitalization, and telling someone to vote your way.
MAGA is a legit cult, but left leaning fanatics are just as cringe. Sorry, dude.
Love it. Voting BLUE 💙🔵💙🔵
ABORT trump !!!
@@lisaschultz9614 Same. But I'm not manic. Try not to make us look like a bunch of weirdos, please. Thanks.
The best of intentions, no doubt, but don't overdo it, or you risk sounding a little culty yourself.
Sorry, I’m long past treating Trumpers with respect.
I avoid them. I'm not going to accommodate Nazis and coddle them
I work for a company that FIRES THEM. WORST, MOST UNRELIABLE WORKERS EVER.
I don't blame you.
Do you think anyone really cares what you think? hehehehehe
@@pphil1267yes, people care. What’s your point?
One of your best shows and guest.
The creepiest thing I saw from MAGA was a guy with an assault rifle who yelled, I quote, "We are the Christian Taliban!" 🤔
So, almost a literal "Y'All Qaeda"!
He ultimate oxymoron
@@crystalquartz11 Harris is a nevoous teenager just a 💩4🧠S
Horseshit!
They are
I have a bestfriend who can criticize me in a caring way. He points out my lies and flaws, but never in a toxic way-only when the topic comes up. However, when it comes to Trump, my friend sees him as completely honest. He's only mentioned a few of Trump's faults, but none of Trump's actions are deal breakers for him.
We’re both aware of each other's political views and have had a few discussions about politics in the past. Nowadays, I choose to stay quiet and avoid engaging in political conversations. He also knows about my non-theistic religious perspective, which he once tried to bring up during a political conversation.
Trump is dangerous.
There is NO rational explanation for a group of people that follow and believe in this monster
Tim Pool is a victim!! He was restrained, forcibly is it said, by Russian intelligence agents. They were going to sic TREN DE ARAGUA on him!!! Do you who TREN DE ARAGUA is??? AN ARMED VENEZUELAN GANG!!! Imported by Harris to take over American cities!!! Tim had to take the Russian money in order to pay for protection. He was protecting his family!!!
The point is that it is emotional. Reasonable/rationale people like us do not understand the appeal. We see the mendacious, malignant person. They see the answer to everything.
Preference for white supremacy above democracy.
@@notesfromleisa-land They see a man who says and does awful things that they admire. They see a man who makes them feel good for being bigots and hateful.
America is sinking. The middle class melting away. Lots of communities are hurting. Polarization increasing. New technology emerging.
The country was ripe and ready for a Trump-like character.
This guy. Thank you. I needed to hear your words.
I really don't want politics to divide my family.
This is an extremely important message to all of us in America. Vote 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙or we will have a dictator in 2024.
Thanks for having Dr Steven Hassan on your show. Very intelligent, well thought out speaker.
Thanks for having Dr Hassan, his wisdom is spot on and something he experienced as well
No one who's ever been in a cult hasn't been extremely offended by being told that they're in a cult.
Hmmm... lost me with the double negatives. Suggestion: Anyone who is in a cult is extremely offended by....
@@juliapurdy8787 I have to say, when I read it back, I thought the same thing, even before your comment. LOL
Powerful - this explanation of what is happening is one of the best I have seen yet.
Yes!! I see that in my son in-law and it is CRAZY! I worry all the time for my daughter and grandchildren now she was not raised that way and I can’t figure it out anymore. It’s sad. She’s so isolated now.
That is very sad for you.
I'm sorry she is stuck with a man who is lost.
😢
So you need to make sure to keep good contact with your daughter, let her know you will always be there for her and her children. One of these days she will reach out for your help, just make sure you are there to help right away.
@@kontrygrll01amerika54
TY oh yes I do. It’s just hard to talk when the hubby is ALWAYS THERE! there’s soooo much more… one thing is
They moved back to our home state. For 10+ yrs she was in AZ. I think I even had a nervous breakdown because I was flying there several times a month.
Will say I do think i seen her more then though??
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My boss would freak out if anyone criticized trump so he has minions out there ensuring compliance to respecting trump. That was a horrible job.
I hope you quit.
Good for you for moving on.
@@yeahright2068 My boss voted for IQ45 in 2016 but she is now a Never Trumper.
yeahright2068,good on you for recognizing a toxic environment and moving on!!
@@jlozano281we need more like her. I love the harder but more effective way the guest advocated of treating them kindly as a start to get through to them.
They will still be here after the election. ( Let it be Madame President 🙏🏻
I always thought cult leaders needed a certain level of charisma. Trump is simple grossly repulsive. Guess I was wrong.
The propoganda machine of the media, his wingmen and wingwomen who have more charisma repeated and defended his lies.
He has the same toxic charisma as Hitler, wo screamed to his listeners ("followers"), "Do you want total war?" And they cheered back in unison, "Jaaa!"
He is charismatic to people who admire bigotry and hyperbole.
It seems to me you have to be really simple to believe anything he says, especially about himself.
Some people tend to mistake volume for charisma.
David, Thank you and thank you Doctor for bringing all of this to the forefront! 💕💕💕🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
I cannot believe he won his followers need mental help god help America
Thank you I was raised Evangelical. I was thought not to believe in anyone as false idol. I don’t understand how a true Christian would believe in this awful person.
He's their King Cyrus.
You have to look at different facets of those claiming to be 'true christians'. There are actually fringe far-right white christian nationalists and authoritarian-fascists behind a lot of the original social media posts that are then purposely highly amplified by others. Fear, religion, the previous belief in conspiracy theories and lies, and a restricted infosphere makes one more susceptible to accepting false info.
You also have Russia, China, etc. amplifying with their own disinformation and lies with bots, etc. to sow hatred and distrust among the masses in democratic countries. Putin and others are masters at 'brainwashing' and disinformation techniques.
@@ER_Murrow He is Netanyahu's Cyrus.
COULD YOU HAVE THIS EXPERT 0N A FEW TIMES MORE ? We need to hear this many times again and again. Thank you.
Please don't. He is a very bad expert who doesn't know what he is talking about. He reminds me of "cult experts" whom I had to deal with in my career in Child Protection services. They so readily denigrate folk they don't like. They wanted us to remove children from families who may have practice alternative faith but there was never any evidence they harm their children. I would visit the families and made assessment. Cult busters just make up shit-like this dude.
@@russellmiles2861 ok
A bit of email tradition; " COULD YOU HAVE THIS EXPERT 0N A FEW TIMES MORE ? " is considered yelling/screaming at your audience.
My family members who are Trumpers are so because our father was a Republican. They don’t realize that the Republican Party back then was very different than it is now
And they've been tuned into the lies of the Fox Propaganda Network this whole 21st Century. The brainwashing is real and it is HUGE. I don't think people realize how bad just that one element has been for the USA.
Give them a Republican opinion
Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.
Barry Goldwater
Eisenhower would kick Trump all the way out of Arlington and into the ocean. Orange is not a true Republican or a loyal American!
ah, so you want the republican party to slink back into controlled opposition mode? uh, no. I like dichotomy. no more nose-holding at the polls.
@@johnwren3976 too late, they already have control of the party. If they didn't he'd never have been nominated.
So insightful...thanks for having Hassan on...I'm going to get his book The Cult of Trump...sounds to me that we have to learn a better method of undoing such corrupted minds!
I really enjoy your program! As a mental health therapist, I totally agree with your guest today. He explained very clearly, the dangerous personality of Trump. I hope people listened today and saw the light!
No chance ! They
They almost never do ! I just don't understand the stubbornness of some people who continue to be friends with, work for or support politicians who undeniably exhibit criminal tendencies, a lack of a moral compass, unethical conduct or suspicious inconsistencies in their beliefs. I mean, the evidence of fraudsterism keeps piling up, is as clear as day and yet they choose to continue to deny any of it exists, greatly minimize its severity or blame shift.
Intellectually I really understand and appreciate what Hassan is saying about reaching MAGA cult members. Emotionally though I’m so pissed off at them that it’s difficult to follow his instructions on reaching them.
So agree
I talked kindly to someone on the internet today that repeated a lie about Harris. I mentioned that I had been a republican most of my lfe. I wrote why I didn't vote for Trump. I told them how Harris's speeches are uplifting like John F. Kennedy was like. I asked them to listen to some of her speeches and go by how positive she makes us feel. I don't know of it makes a difference to respond that way, but if it does, that will be good. At least I tried.
Thanks for being a decent and reasonable human being. I do wish David were more like you. He was, until he turned to the dark side and started promoting fascist ideas like "deprograming" and culling American citizens. You can find the video by following the search below.
"Experts" in the science of eugenics explained why "irredeemable, incompetent, people lacking mental capacity, uninformed, low information, retrograde, religious, and who have no connection to reality” as David calls 34 million of his fellow American citizens, needed to be sterilized against their will in the 1920's and 30's. Wonder if this "expert" also wants to "deprogram" another 34 million Americans that David doesn't seem to want to cull from the herd of humanity. Search: (David Pakman Trump's rally flooded with cult members, brains failing badly).
Trying is all you can do. Some people trive on negativity.
Yes! Keep going! Share your story! I've been doing the same. I frequently hear something like "I'm glad to hear you say that." When I share my political views with MAGA members. They have vilified democrats and put them in a box. Show them we are people too with differing views and concerns. Good job! Keep it up!
@@babette217 I have had so much more success doing the same. Rather than calling them "deplorable" & " irredeemable" and then promising to "formally deprogram" them like David Packman does. If we lose this election, it will be because of people like David.
Good for you, keep going. I'd rather bring back the age where we can have respectful disagreements, and also when those disagreements don't advocate for robbing me of my rights.