I’m 62 and only 5’3. Raced Moto and big 6. Quit riding at 55. I just picked up 2018 390 RRS. 2” lowered and low seat. Can tiptoe. The balance of this bike is great. Very easy bike to ride. Suspension works great. Clutch pull is easy. I put a 14 tooth sprocket on my bike before I rode it. The bike is an absolute tractor. My buddies took me on a ride that I would say was intermediate level and the bike handled it superb. A lot better than my old body could. I am looking forward to many more rides ahead. Can’t go wrong with this bike. Keep it fun! I’m back
Great review, the 390 does seem to be the pick of the Beta 4 strokes. I actually have the Beta 480 RR in Australia. It’s great as an Adventure bike. Good on the trails and great on the highways too. Buy a Beta, you won’t regret it. Mine has almost 10,000 kilometres on it after two years and hasn’t missed a beat! Very reliable, huge fun and great quality!
Excellent review. Thanks!! Although the KTM 300 is designed to be ridden fast without being on the pipe. It can lug all day long and is meant to be able to do that unlike most 2 strokes. That is why it is dubbed the 3 stroke. It can lug and it can rip. Excellent bike but I am looking for a small, dirt bike sized, adventure bike for a mostly off road trip in Idaho. Apparently the counter shaft doesn't wear out on the Betas while being used on the highway like other bikes do. That is a huge plus for those unloved road sections. Once again, great review! Appreciated.
Great video, I have a 2010 KTM 400XCW that I love and would guess that it is very similar to your 390. Great size engine for technical trail riding, the grunt of a 450 but softened up a bit. What I really like about mine is it doesn't flame out at low rpm like some other four stroke bikes I've had in the past. KTM needs to bring back the 400, if not I guess I'll have to get a Beta next.
So congrats on finding a bike you like ! ! ! Looks sweet. One thing I'd like to disagree with is that the 300 isnt meant to be on the pipe all the time and thats the point. If you watch my vids you'll see quite a bit of both types of riding. On the pipe or lugging it. Thats the beauty of the 300 2 stroke. When you need traction and smooth torque without the stalling tendencies or weight of a 4 stroke you have it, but when you realize you screwed up and need instant power you have it too. It is a bit of a split personality thing and not for everyone I agree, but to say if you ride a gear high to avoid being on the pipe you are doing it wrong I would have to disagree. Even Jarvis does that on his 300 and I doubt he is on the wrong bike. 300's are about smooth low end power, with the option of a ripping topend when needed / wanted. All that being said if I wanted to just go fast I would ride a 350 4 stroke as they are more forgiving and easier to ride very agressive! I like technical and slow riding and so I ride a 300.
You have to be a crazy person to like two-strokes. I'm not getting the RR300 because you have to work too hard to have fun. I don't want to be locked into 1/8th throttle for 95% of my riding and I like engine braking. Once that power band hits, the RR300 screams and violently breaks traction. The 390 feels like it has constant power and torque, engine braking, and the top end has a mild amount of too much power. Also street legal in 50 states so it can be ridden anywhere a car can go. Best bike on the planet for me.
@@WhatTimeIsIt369 Thanks. My 300 has inspired me so much to increase my technical ability on a bike I actually just got a trials bike to learn even more on. I'll never be a Jarvis, Webb, or heck even Mac lol but I love how much inspiration my 300 gives. Its made me a rider that used to look at a slippery rocky uphill and think "no way" and now I'm like "yeah this bike will get me up it , and it will even make me look like I almost know what I'm doing" lol ! Thanks again for the kind words !
@@jacksonbuck7481 It really sounds like you have 0 time on a 300RR and even less time understanding them. You can change the pv screw and make the powerband the way you like it. I rode the 390 and the 300 one right after the other and the 300 is just as controllable and easy to put around as the 390. On the flip side, you have to be crazy not to like BOTH!.
Even though I don't ride motorcycles I give you 👍👍for the complete run down on this video. As always keep it safe. I enjoyed it. Can barely wait for your next cat fishing video.👏👏
Good video man. Thanks for the info on this bike. I’ve been on a husky 450 track bike fire the past two and a half years. Time for a change. I think this bike with a recluse would be amazing. Gotta do some more research though. Be safe. Rubber down.
Mid-South Outdoor Life - My thoughts as well. I went to the Beta Demo Day at Gorman, California, mid 2019. I too had a hard time to fine neutral on all the Beta's I test rode. I did ride the 125 250 430 Race Edition and 390RR S. Love the 390, 430 for my type of riding. Only in a sand wash or air time could I really feel the weight difference between the 2 stroke verse 4 stroke, mostly on the front end.
Nice to here from a Beta 4 stroke owner. I love the street legal ability too. I know I would love this bike but I am leaning towards the 500 as I am over 240lbs when geared up with hydro-back pack and I seem to be riding more often in the nearer to me sand hill terrain. When it comes to hills and sand you can easily be wanting more power, yet I think/hope in Rain Mode the big 500 could still be a tractable beast even in the technical slippery stuff. I really want to try one. I hope to get on a demo list for the 2019's next spring.
Sweet bike I just rode it! And I rode the 500 a few weeks ago. The 390 seemed great but so did the 500. Lol. The 390 didn’t seem to pull real hard but it’s enough power I think. I only got to test drive it in the road. Keep the vids coming. Thanks
Great review. I'm looking into a 19 390. Did you notice the lower seat height? (Never mind looks like another comment answer that) .That is one characteristic I'm really looking for. That, plus smooth and easy to ride...which sounds like you've definitely confirmed! KTM 350 also sounds great, but Beta just seems like exactly what I'm going after. Ride on. Fish on.
Thank you for your video One of a few out there. Was that a 3rd gear power (no clutch) wheelie in the begining? Stock forks without the upgrades? I'm 5'8 and I think I'll be ordering this with a 1" lowering kit. It's this or the 300rr. I saw your 300rr video. If I'm truly honest with myself, I am probably more suited for the 4 stroke. My current 2 stroke kicked my ass on a hare scramble last weekend.
I haven’t read any comments on here yet so I’ll say.. your comment about “guys lugging 2 strokes is high gears cuz they can’t ride on the pipe” dude you are missing the mark on that. I had Honda CR250 2 strokes. They don’t have low end. You have no choice but to ride in the power band unless u put a heavy flywheel on. I own a BETA 300. I ride in low RPM cuz it has power there. If I need top end I have it. That’s where Beta has done a great job. On slow speed terrain. Rocks, technical riding. And unlike you. I prefer the 2 stroke feel. I know 4 strokes are good but guess what? I still Jones for the violent power. If I want it it’s there. Yes my power valve is out all the way. I’m old now so I don’t rip like a 25 year old. That’s where beta covers for me. That’s why I sold my CR. I’d never use a recluse or whatever right handed clutch. Learn how to ride it’s a skill. I don’t mean you necessarily. Isn’t riding, learning how to conquer terrain part of the fun of it. Shit, why ride at all. Just play video dirt bike riding. Think what you’ll miss. You can’t get hurt, won’t see the outdoors, Won’t get dirty, no beers after, no buddies talking riding. Sorry man. But I believe recluses are lame. Have a nice day
smart commentary, i also think way more manufacturers should make a 350-400cc road-legal enduro, i had a 01 400exc and it was the most practical off-road bike i ever had.
Mid-South Outdoor Life you're man enough to admit that, respect. Anyway A two stroke I recommend for you is a Husqvarna TE150, they're fun and easy to ride.
Mid-South Outdoor Life you need to spend some hours on a KTM 300 or a beta 300. Both of those bikes have awesome low end torque and the power band is not like moto cross bikes at all. Way lighter and more nimble than a 4 stroke plus maintenance is nothing on a 2t compared to 4t. I'd chose my 300 over a 450 anyday. Seriously man spend a day on a 300 you won't regret it.
I'm considering a beta. I would go with a 390rr-s but I want to ride 65 long distance on road. How's she do on road? Rant- I love 2 strokes! My favorite bike (my first) was a 1996 WR-250; it had that that 2 stroke hit but still came on smooth and had enough torque to do anything I needed (wide ratio + heavy flywheel) My RM250 on the other hand, I barely could ride it in the woods despite it having a linear powerband and lots of torque (tall MX 1st gear)
Is this bike fuel injected ? Does it have a gas gauge ? Does it have a hydraulic clutch ? Is it a 6 speed ? How many miles can you go on a tank of gas ? How much does it weigh with a full tank of gas ?
Mid-South Outdoor Life thanks for the non bias, non advertising review. Along with where I would be if I decided to go get back into riding again. But all and all the bike really sounded about the right power scenario in the rain setting, not that 450 light switch power, but not a dog at all either. Might have to take one out, then take out a loan lol.
Looks like you traded in the smaller 2 stroke for a bigger 4 stroke. I thought the plan was to ride offroad more? Seems like you should have gotten the Xtrainer if you wanted that low end grunt on a light bike.
Can or are you able to comment on valve maintenance and longevity with regard to the beta 390 being used as an ADV bike. Bottom end wear, replacing piston etc....
Going from a hog of a Kawi kx 450 to a ktm 350sxf I knew right away where I wanted to be. The sweet spot for me is right in the middle of those two. Is it possible this Beta Is there somewhere in between?
With stock gearing, how fast and how long a distance can you ride on the street comfortably (for the motor) for extended periods. I have been ADV riding for a long time, started with KTM950 due to I needed to ride 2K miles from Philly to Utah to do my adventure rides. That got old after awhile so me and my riding buddies downsized to Suzuki DR650's...cheap, dependable, heavy uggh, nice low end grunt for easy off roading with smaller by one tooth countershaft sprocket with short occasional sections of technical riding that we sweated and muscled though. Even with smaller front sprocket can still do 65mph on road for extended periods and can still handle some technical spots with clutch slipping. For 95% of our riding the DR has been fine, not inspirational but smooth and dependable. 6 of us shared a single unit garage rental in Grand Junction CO where we kept the bikes for the annual 2 week ADV ride. Now I need a lighter bike, less than 300lb wet that can also do some occasional "road work", riding for a few hours on the asphalt between trail heads. I'm willing to suffer a little physically on the asphalt slogs but I don't want to damage the motor and I prefer not to mess around changing front sprockets just for the asphalt and then reinstalling lower tooth sprocket when I get to the trail. I'm thinking the WR250R and 390RRS are the front runners due to weight although they are both very different. I don't like that the WR power is in the high revs thus the 390RRS is so much more attractive to me...just wondering what speed the engine can comfortably run at on the pavement for an hour or two occasionally. Most usage will be back roads at 55 mph or less and mostly easy trail riding. I assume Beta can do 55 mph for long periods but is that about it for a long haul? or can it run at 65 mph for an hour??? The higher performance of the Beta will be appreciated but I'm not targeting that, I am targeting weight and that's what brings me to the high priced Beta and the performance just comes along with the low weight, high price.
yeah, I was kinda afraid that was the case. Have you used it on the road and if yes, what is a comfortable cruising speed for it in 6th gear? Maybe the new honda CRF450L is a better product for my use, still under 300 lbs wet...supposedly and street legal. I haven't seen gear ratios for it so don't know about highway cruising speeds. Glad to finally see the Japanese getting into street legal 450's that have some decent suspension and peppy motor for ADV riding...not racing. Hoping Yam, Kaw and Suz follow soon with competing products.
this is the bike for, just put it on a trailer :) cost for trailer will be same than byying lots of knobbies tires ;) Don't know in US, but in Europe, this DOT bike is the best to go legally by small roads from one spot to another, as main travel is done with bike in a van or trailer.
What about seat height? Beta a known to have lower seat heights than the competition. I have between 31 to 32 inch inseam, would i be able to plant a foot on this thing?
I can totally relate on the controllable and easy to ride points. Modern 2 & 4 strokes, as they get "racier" are harder to control & more temperamental. Like you, I chose bikes at the other end of the spectrum, that others would consider underpowered play bikes, BUT bikes that motored right thru the nasty stuff while the track bikes stalled, over revved, lurched uncontrollably, and generally wore the riders plumb out in the beginning of the ride. You said more bikes should be like this, and actually there are quite a few, and I've had them all! If you are on FB check out my page Hawaii Trail Rider. Good review for sure!!!
What are the prices for all the Beta models?? Even old 014 and up new old stock???2 stroke and 4 stroke,or even a good used Beta, even a street and trail
quite the critic. every company has to pick their battles on where to spend money. smart companies spend less money on components that are the most subject to preference, style and comfort. Seats, mirrors, and handle bar components are always the first to go on almost any motocycle. Beta seems to dump cash on nearly everything else. and PS I have 11k miles and counting on those mirrors. They’re light and adjustable for a reason.
@@catfishkarma1 The only thing that scares me about getting one is that it's made in Italy. Parts could be a problem and service dealers few and far between.
I also cant stand guys lugging the hell out of a 2 stroke trying to stay off the pipe all the time. Nothing is more sweet than hitting the power band through every turn on a single track and getting that rhythm in the woods, wop tree, wop rock, wop jump. I do really like the 390 I rode, and if I get another 4 stroke for the woods it will be the 390 race edition.
Point of the video is all right , only thing I do not like is technical point. The camera is crap, it somewhere on your chest or stomach and it is terrible to watch. I am in your age I do have the same style of riding.
and how are you happy with Beta 390 after while? from beginning I liked Beta 300 RR and after while I am thinking to buy Beta 390. I am riding basically as you do, not very fast.
You lost me at the 1:21 mark... if you think KTM fit and finish is above all Japanese dirtbikes, you're crazy or simply ignorant. But good job at quickly losing all credibility!
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I’m 62 and only 5’3. Raced Moto and big 6. Quit riding at 55. I just picked up 2018 390 RRS. 2” lowered and low seat. Can tiptoe. The balance of this bike is great. Very easy bike to ride. Suspension works great. Clutch pull is easy. I put a 14 tooth sprocket on my bike before I rode it. The bike is an absolute tractor. My buddies took me on a ride that I would say was intermediate level and the bike handled it superb. A lot better than my old body could. I am looking forward to many more rides ahead. Can’t go wrong with this bike. Keep it fun! I’m back
Easy tho understand why you like it. Its such a well rounded dirtbike.
Great review, the 390 does seem to be the pick of the Beta 4 strokes. I actually have the Beta 480 RR in Australia. It’s great as an Adventure bike. Good on the trails and great on the highways too. Buy a Beta, you won’t regret it. Mine has almost 10,000 kilometres on it after two years and hasn’t missed a beat! Very reliable, huge fun and great quality!
What’s maintenance like ?
Just a ‘heads up’ the pocket on the stock seat cover is actually for holding a time card during an Enduro event.
Excellent review. Thanks!! Although the KTM 300 is designed to be ridden fast without being on the pipe. It can lug all day long and is meant to be able to do that unlike most 2 strokes. That is why it is dubbed the 3 stroke. It can lug and it can rip. Excellent bike but I am looking for a small, dirt bike sized, adventure bike for a mostly off road trip in Idaho. Apparently the counter shaft doesn't wear out on the Betas while being used on the highway like other bikes do. That is a huge plus for those unloved road sections. Once again, great review! Appreciated.
Great video, I have a 2010 KTM 400XCW that I love and would guess that it is very similar to your 390. Great size engine for technical trail riding, the grunt of a 450 but softened up a bit. What I really like about mine is it doesn't flame out at low rpm like some other four stroke bikes I've had in the past. KTM needs to bring back the 400, if not I guess I'll have to get a Beta next.
I bought the same bike. After market hand gaurd, rad gaurds and skid plate from day one. 40 hours in and I am loving this bike.
So congrats on finding a bike you like ! ! ! Looks sweet. One thing I'd like to disagree with is that the 300 isnt meant to be on the pipe all the time and thats the point. If you watch my vids you'll see quite a bit of both types of riding. On the pipe or lugging it. Thats the beauty of the 300 2 stroke. When you need traction and smooth torque without the stalling tendencies or weight of a 4 stroke you have it, but when you realize you screwed up and need instant power you have it too. It is a bit of a split personality thing and not for everyone I agree, but to say if you ride a gear high to avoid being on the pipe you are doing it wrong I would have to disagree. Even Jarvis does that on his 300 and I doubt he is on the wrong bike. 300's are about smooth low end power, with the option of a ripping topend when needed / wanted. All that being said if I wanted to just go fast I would ride a 350 4 stroke as they are more forgiving and easier to ride very agressive! I like technical and slow riding and so I ride a 300.
Well put and accurate. Maybe you should do some reviews as well!
You have to be a crazy person to like two-strokes. I'm not getting the RR300 because you have to work too hard to have fun. I don't want to be locked into 1/8th throttle for 95% of my riding and I like engine braking. Once that power band hits, the RR300 screams and violently breaks traction. The 390 feels like it has constant power and torque, engine braking, and the top end has a mild amount of too much power. Also street legal in 50 states so it can be ridden anywhere a car can go. Best bike on the planet for me.
@@jacksonbuck7481 lol
@@WhatTimeIsIt369 Thanks. My 300 has inspired me so much to increase my technical ability on a bike I actually just got a trials bike to learn even more on. I'll never be a Jarvis, Webb, or heck even Mac lol but I love how much inspiration my 300 gives. Its made me a rider that used to look at a slippery rocky uphill and think "no way" and now I'm like "yeah this bike will get me up it , and it will even make me look like I almost know what I'm doing" lol ! Thanks again for the kind words !
@@jacksonbuck7481 It really sounds like you have 0 time on a 300RR and even less time understanding them. You can change the pv screw and make the powerband the way you like it. I rode the 390 and the 300 one right after the other and the 300 is just as controllable and easy to put around as the 390. On the flip side, you have to be crazy not to like BOTH!.
I had a chance to do a beta demo day and rode the full range of bikes. I think you nailed it, my two favorite bikes were the 390 and 300!
I just got the 2018 250rr I think it is awesome. dude I love it
Mid-South Outdoor Life I have a 2014 drz 400 sm too and man the difference in power but I love both bikes .
Great review very informative !!
I love my 500 Exc, having said that I wish my bike had a more linear power band. 👍
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I've been looking at reviews the past few hours, and they all look very positive on the 390. I think it's time for a test ride.
Getting my beta... I couldn't believe the low end grunt.. Smooth power it's insane how it feels.. No hit.. Blew my mind
How common are parts for the Betas?
I like tractoring my KTM 300 XC-W two stroke. I also like that I can take advantage of the power band. I may get one of these for a dual sport.
Awesome video! Thank you for helping me to make up my mind on my next bike. 👍🏻
Even though I don't ride motorcycles I give you 👍👍for the complete run down on this video. As always keep it safe. I enjoyed it. Can barely wait for your next cat fishing video.👏👏
Good video man. Thanks for the info on this bike. I’ve been on a husky 450 track bike fire the past two and a half years. Time for a change. I think this bike with a recluse would be amazing. Gotta do some more research though. Be safe. Rubber down.
I dislike the chest mounted camera but, thumbs up for the review.
Luv your video. I have a 2016 beta 300rr and thank it's one of the best bikes out there.
Mid-South Outdoor Life - My thoughts as well. I went to the Beta Demo Day at Gorman, California, mid 2019. I too had a hard time to fine neutral on all the Beta's I test rode. I did ride the 125 250 430 Race Edition and 390RR S. Love the 390, 430 for my type of riding. Only in a sand wash or air time could I really feel the weight difference between the 2 stroke verse 4 stroke, mostly on the front end.
Nice to here from a Beta 4 stroke owner. I love the street legal ability too. I know I would love this bike but I am leaning towards the 500 as I am over 240lbs when geared up with hydro-back pack and I seem to be riding more often in the nearer to me sand hill terrain. When it comes to hills and sand you can easily be wanting more power, yet I think/hope in Rain Mode the big 500 could still be a tractable beast even in the technical slippery stuff. I really want to try one. I hope to get on a demo list for the 2019's next spring.
Sweet bike I just rode it! And I rode the 500 a few weeks ago. The 390 seemed great but so did the 500. Lol. The 390 didn’t seem to pull real hard but it’s enough power I think. I only got to test drive it in the road. Keep the vids coming. Thanks
Great review. I'm looking into a 19 390. Did you notice the lower seat height? (Never mind looks like another comment answer that) .That is one characteristic I'm really looking for. That, plus smooth and easy to ride...which sounds like you've definitely confirmed! KTM 350 also sounds great, but Beta just seems like exactly what I'm going after. Ride on. Fish on.
Thank you for your video One of a few out there. Was that a 3rd gear power (no clutch) wheelie in the begining? Stock forks without the upgrades? I'm 5'8 and I think I'll be ordering this with a 1" lowering kit. It's this or the 300rr. I saw your 300rr video. If I'm truly honest with myself, I am probably more suited for the 4 stroke. My current 2 stroke kicked my ass on a hare scramble last weekend.
Well?! What did you get?!
I always thought a 400cc 4 stroke engine would be perfect. So I am glad to find the 390 4 stroke from Beta.
Thanks for sharing your experience w/ the 390. I'm thinking of selling my WRR and WRF and replacing both with the 390.
I haven’t read any comments on here yet so I’ll say.. your comment about “guys lugging 2 strokes is high gears cuz they can’t ride on the pipe” dude you are missing the mark on that. I had Honda CR250 2 strokes. They don’t have low end. You have no choice but to ride in the power band unless u put a heavy flywheel on. I own a BETA 300. I ride in low RPM cuz it has power there. If I need top end I have it. That’s where Beta has done a great job. On slow speed terrain. Rocks, technical riding. And unlike you. I prefer the 2 stroke feel. I know 4 strokes are good but guess what? I still Jones for the violent power. If I want it it’s there. Yes my power valve is out all the way. I’m old now so I don’t rip like a 25 year old. That’s where beta covers for me. That’s why I sold my CR. I’d never use a recluse or whatever right handed clutch. Learn how to ride it’s a skill. I don’t mean you necessarily. Isn’t riding, learning how to conquer terrain part of the fun of it. Shit, why ride at all. Just play video dirt bike riding. Think what you’ll miss. You can’t get hurt, won’t see the outdoors, Won’t get dirty, no beers after, no buddies talking riding. Sorry man. But I believe recluses are lame. Have a nice day
smart commentary, i also think way more manufacturers should make a 350-400cc road-legal enduro, i had a 01 400exc and it was the most practical off-road bike i ever had.
I love the hit of two strokes, but i understand why you prefer four strokes.
Mid-South Outdoor Life you're man enough to admit that, respect. Anyway A two stroke I recommend for you is a Husqvarna TE150, they're fun and easy to ride.
Mid-South Outdoor Life you need to spend some hours on a KTM 300 or a beta 300. Both of those bikes have awesome low end torque and the power band is not like moto cross bikes at all. Way lighter and more nimble than a 4 stroke plus maintenance is nothing on a 2t compared to 4t. I'd chose my 300 over a 450 anyday. Seriously man spend a day on a 300 you won't regret it.
I'm considering a beta. I would go with a 390rr-s but I want to ride 65 long distance on road. How's she do on road?
Rant- I love 2 strokes! My favorite bike (my first) was a 1996 WR-250; it had that that 2 stroke hit but still came on smooth and had enough torque to do anything I needed (wide ratio + heavy flywheel) My RM250 on the other hand, I barely could ride it in the woods despite it having a linear powerband and lots of torque (tall MX 1st gear)
Great videos. So, in your opinion, do the valve checks need to be done as often as often as the manual recommends? Thank you
Is this bike fuel injected ? Does it have a gas gauge ? Does it have a hydraulic clutch ? Is it a 6 speed ? How many miles can you go on a tank of gas ? How much does it weigh with a full tank of gas ?
Just stumbled across your channel and subbed. Good vid. I want a 390 so bad. Why did you get the 390 over the 350 or 500?
Mid-South Outdoor Life thanks for the non bias, non advertising review. Along with where I would be if I decided to go get back into riding again.
But all and all the bike really sounded about the right power scenario in the rain setting, not that 450 light switch power, but not a dog at all either.
Might have to take one out, then take out a loan lol.
Looks like you traded in the smaller 2 stroke for a bigger 4 stroke. I thought the plan was to ride offroad more? Seems like you should have gotten the Xtrainer if you wanted that low end grunt on a light bike.
Beta the best
Nice review. How well does Voyager gps work?
thats how to do a review. thank you
Great review! Thanks for sharing.
Any reason why a rekluse vs clake one?
Bike looks great good review.. possibly buying a 350.. what's it like on fuel it has a fairly small tank?
That's pretty good around 80 to a tank I can live with..just about to buy a 350rr... happy days
Nice vid n bike! What are the maintenance intervals?thanks
I switched the front sprocket to the included 13T and now I flame out on a lot of downhills...have you noticed this?
Can or are you able to comment on valve maintenance and longevity with regard to the beta 390 being used as an ADV bike.
Bottom end wear, replacing piston etc....
Still like the Beta?
Going from a hog of a Kawi kx 450 to a ktm 350sxf I knew right away where I wanted to be. The sweet spot for me is right in the middle of those two. Is it possible this Beta Is there somewhere in between?
Does that Beta dealer you mentiion in the end ship new bikes? Did you drive there to pick up your bike?
With stock gearing, how fast and how long a distance can you ride on the street comfortably (for the motor) for extended periods. I have been ADV riding for a long time, started with KTM950 due to I needed to ride 2K miles from Philly to Utah to do my adventure rides. That got old after awhile so me and my riding buddies downsized to Suzuki DR650's...cheap, dependable, heavy uggh, nice low end grunt for easy off roading with smaller by one tooth countershaft sprocket with short occasional sections of technical riding that we sweated and muscled though. Even with smaller front sprocket can still do 65mph on road for extended periods and can still handle some technical spots with clutch slipping. For 95% of our riding the DR has been fine, not inspirational but smooth and dependable. 6 of us shared a single unit garage rental in Grand Junction CO where we kept the bikes for the annual 2 week ADV ride. Now I need a lighter bike, less than 300lb wet that can also do some occasional "road work", riding for a few hours on the asphalt between trail heads. I'm willing to suffer a little physically on the asphalt slogs but I don't want to damage the motor and I prefer not to mess around changing front sprockets just for the asphalt and then reinstalling lower tooth sprocket when I get to the trail. I'm thinking the WR250R and 390RRS are the front runners due to weight although they are both very different. I don't like that the WR power is in the high revs thus the 390RRS is so much more attractive to me...just wondering what speed the engine can comfortably run at on the pavement for an hour or two occasionally. Most usage will be back roads at 55 mph or less and mostly easy trail riding. I assume Beta can do 55 mph for long periods but is that about it for a long haul? or can it run at 65 mph for an hour??? The higher performance of the Beta will be appreciated but I'm not targeting that, I am targeting weight and that's what brings me to the high priced Beta and the performance just comes along with the low weight, high price.
yeah, I was kinda afraid that was the case. Have you used it on the road and if yes, what is a comfortable cruising speed for it in 6th gear? Maybe the new honda CRF450L is a better product for my use, still under 300 lbs wet...supposedly and street legal. I haven't seen gear ratios for it so don't know about highway cruising speeds. Glad to finally see the Japanese getting into street legal 450's that have some decent suspension and peppy motor for ADV riding...not racing. Hoping Yam, Kaw and Suz follow soon with competing products.
this is the bike for, just put it on a trailer :) cost for trailer will be same than byying lots of knobbies tires ;) Don't know in US, but in Europe, this DOT bike is the best to go legally by small roads from one spot to another, as main travel is done with bike in a van or trailer.
Nice
What's your opinion of say, the 500 rr-s?
What made you decide to go with the 390?
What about seat height? Beta a known to have lower seat heights than the competition. I have between 31 to 32 inch inseam, would i be able to plant a foot on this thing?
hard to hear the narration over the engine when talking about the forks. Did you say the Beta was really plush?
@@catfishkarma1 Thanks. I have signed up for the upcoming Beta test ride and will get a chance to see for myself soon.
What are the oil change and valve adjustment intervals on this bike ?
Hours.. dang..
Thanks!!! I still want one!
Whats the stock size of the handlebars on these? 1 1/8 or 7/8s?
Does the Rekluse clutch make the clutch pull easier?
Do you still have your beta?
I can totally relate on the controllable and easy to ride points. Modern 2 & 4 strokes, as they get "racier" are harder to control & more temperamental. Like you, I chose bikes at the other end of the spectrum, that others would consider underpowered play bikes, BUT bikes that motored right thru the nasty stuff while the track bikes stalled, over revved, lurched uncontrollably, and generally wore the riders plumb out in the beginning of the ride. You said more bikes should be like this, and actually there are quite a few, and I've had them all! If you are on FB check out my page Hawaii Trail Rider. Good review for sure!!!
I have an 09 crf 450x. I wondering what the power difference is? My bike is older heavier but had a little more displacement. Any thoughts? Thanks
Mid-South Outdoor Life does anyone know the price list on the 300 and up
What are the prices for all the Beta models?? Even old 014 and up new old stock???2 stroke and 4 stroke,or even a good used Beta, even a street and trail
Joel Perley the 300 is like 8k I think and the 4 strokes are 10k before taxes and fees
How is maintenance?
What year is that gp1800 in the back ?
300 2ts are meant for lugging just ask graham Jarvis or any other hard enduro rider.
quite the critic. every company has to pick their battles on where to spend money. smart companies spend less money on components that are the most subject to preference, style and comfort. Seats, mirrors, and handle bar components are always the first to go on almost any motocycle. Beta seems to dump cash on nearly everything else. and PS I have 11k miles and counting on those mirrors. They’re light and adjustable for a reason.
You still got her? How’s she holding up?
Any guess about what the horsepower is?
@@catfishkarma1 The only thing that scares me about getting one is that it's made in Italy. Parts could be a problem and service dealers few and far between.
I also cant stand guys lugging the hell out of a 2 stroke trying to stay off the pipe all the time. Nothing is more sweet than hitting the power band through every turn on a single track and getting that rhythm in the woods, wop tree, wop rock, wop jump. I do really like the 390 I rode, and if I get another 4 stroke for the woods it will be the 390 race edition.
Point of the video is all right , only thing I do not like is technical point. The camera is crap, it somewhere on your chest or stomach and it is terrible to watch. I am in your age I do have the same style of riding.
and how are you happy with Beta 390 after while? from beginning I liked Beta 300 RR and after while I am thinking to buy Beta 390. I am riding basically as you do, not very fast.
what is the maintenance schedule?
My stock mirror is good
Thank god thats not CNN playing in the background. Subscribed just for that! lol
''Its really thicc''
Never too much power!!!@
you layed it down at 5:33 tho, stop lying
nice review disagree abou the mirror though
U must be rich as hell or in debt as hell
Mid-South Outdoor Life haha, such is life huh?
thumbs up just for having fox news on in the background!
Beta =ktm is no possible in the life
You lost me at the 1:21 mark... if you think KTM fit and finish is above all Japanese dirtbikes, you're crazy or simply ignorant.
But good job at quickly losing all credibility!
I've had plenty of Japanese dirt bikes but I switched over to Beta And KTM a few years ago way ahead of Japanese
Beta the best