I really appreciated the way Zubaida summarised some of the main points from the discussion. It really helps listeners to grasp the nub of the topic. Thank you.
Again, thankyou so much for doing this. I still wear masks and test when visting the NHS, dentists, opticians, etc. Still having to isolate due to other health issues. Grateful for vaccinations. Concerned, the virus may adapt to evade vaccines due to the pool of unvaccinated to the new variants.
What have we learnt in the past 3 years? Why, that we've not learnt any lessons! The govt is **still** not preparing for future pandemics despite how damaging and destructive this pandemic has been to people's lives, livelihoods and the economy!
It was the RESPONSE that was destructive, not the virus. ie lockdowns, restrictions, mandates The same response that this group push in more extreme ways.
There was a pandemic plan, it was just they chose to bin it having been scared by Ferguson's flawed modelling (yet again), and choosing to follow the devastating communist party plan instead.
Behaviour of 'getting vaccinated' is not worth a jot when the vaccinations do not prevent either infection (and subsequent secondary adverse effects in future) nor transmission. We needed to have a better communal effort to avoid letting it into the country, as we had with MERS and SARS, which were less infectious practice runs for this Covid-19.
I releasied watching this episode how much I have relied on the factual analysis provided by Indie_sage to the extent that I didn't despair on hearing of the government's self serving antics. I felt I knew what to do to keep safe. So I would like to thank you all. You made a difference to me.
There seems to be a confusing message, firstly they say that the better approach would be to be more collaborative with the people, but then go on to focus on compliance with restrictions, so then seeming that an approach with mandatory legal restrictions is after all the way forward.
You didn’t listen very carefully. The difference between the collaborative approach needed & the failure of the government’s over emphasis on compliance & restrictions, which was borne of an outdated & disproven theory of how populations respond to challenging environments. The delay in implementing the initial precautionary measures cost tens of thousands of lives. An earlier implementation would have produced a shorter period of lockdown. The past fifty years of behavioural science were mostly ignored by Johnson, Hancock etc.
@@PhilWhelanNow There is a contradiction between saying there should have been a collaborative rather than a restrictive approach and saying that they should have started lockdown earlier because it cannot be called lockdown without legally mandatory restrictions that people are expected to comply with.
@@PhilWhelanNow not sure how you can state an earlier lockdown would have saved tens of thousands of lives, pie in the sky nonsense, if I said no lockdowns would have saved tens of thousands (and numbers will increase as time goes on) neither scenario can be evidenced, it's all guesswork. But you are the one making a claim that can't be proved. I'm not.
Thank you. ❤
I really appreciated the way Zubaida summarised some of the main points from the discussion. It really helps listeners to grasp the nub of the topic. Thank you.
Thank you team.
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Thank you for continuing to provide these informative and interesting sessions. Such well informed scientists and doctors.
Thank you for continuing to do this.
Keep meaning to ask where we can get hold of fresh fluid for LFTs
Again, thankyou so much for doing this. I still wear masks and test when visting the NHS, dentists, opticians, etc. Still having to isolate due to other health issues. Grateful for vaccinations.
Concerned, the virus may adapt to evade vaccines due to the pool of unvaccinated to the new variants.
Why did you put yourself at risks from the many vaccine side effects if you are still going to isolate? Odd people
What have we learnt in the past 3 years? Why, that we've not learnt any lessons! The govt is **still** not preparing for future pandemics despite how damaging and destructive this pandemic has been to people's lives, livelihoods and the economy!
It was the RESPONSE that was destructive, not the virus. ie lockdowns, restrictions, mandates
The same response that this group push in more extreme ways.
😂😂😂😂😂🤡🤡
There was a pandemic plan, it was just they chose to bin it having been scared by Ferguson's flawed modelling (yet again), and choosing to follow the devastating communist party plan instead.
Stephen Reicher's overview (11:27) was devastating!
The comedy show continues 😂
Behaviour of 'getting vaccinated' is not worth a jot when the vaccinations do not prevent either infection (and subsequent secondary adverse effects in future) nor transmission. We needed to have a better communal effort to avoid letting it into the country, as we had with MERS and SARS, which were less infectious practice runs for this Covid-19.
I releasied watching this episode how much I have relied on the factual analysis provided by Indie_sage to the extent that I didn't despair on hearing of the government's self serving antics. I felt I knew what to do to keep safe. So I would like to thank you all. You made a difference to me.
Even Zoe gave up with this cold nonsense over a month ago. Time for you to turn out the light and close the door behind you.
There seems to be a confusing message, firstly they say that the better approach would be to be more collaborative with the people, but then go on to focus on compliance with restrictions, so then seeming that an approach with mandatory legal restrictions is after all the way forward.
They don't see it. Their way is people will have to collaborate because they are forced to. I wonder when these clowns' bubble will finally burst?
You didn’t listen very carefully. The difference between the collaborative approach needed & the failure of the government’s over emphasis on compliance & restrictions, which was borne of an outdated & disproven theory of how populations respond to challenging environments. The delay in implementing the initial precautionary measures cost tens of thousands of lives. An earlier implementation would have produced a shorter period of lockdown. The past fifty years of behavioural science were mostly ignored by Johnson, Hancock etc.
@@PhilWhelanNow There is a contradiction between saying there should have been a collaborative rather than a restrictive approach and saying that they should have started lockdown earlier because it cannot be called lockdown without legally mandatory restrictions that people are expected to comply with.
@@PhilWhelanNow not sure how you can state an earlier lockdown would have saved tens of thousands of lives, pie in the sky nonsense, if I said no lockdowns would have saved tens of thousands (and numbers will increase as time goes on) neither scenario can be evidenced, it's all guesswork.
But you are the one making a claim that can't be proved. I'm not.
Still coming up with the old "we shoulda locked down earlier " chestnut
Because it's still correct.
Really? Perhaps you had better check what happened in the real world, as opposed to fantasy modelling by pseudo scientists
@@tokenwelshman🤡