Astralis' Strategic Dominance to Win the Faceit Major
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- Astralis are the Faceit Major Champions and they made it look easy. I take a look at some of the tactical elements of the series and how Astralis were superior in this regard.
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The casters touched upon this: think about how easy it seemed for Astralis. The fact that they won so convincingly and by such large leads makes you kind of suspect that that wasn't even close to showing the depth of their strat-book.
When SK used to dominate CSGO scene, there was a meme about it being SK_Train, because of their run of 20 consecutive unbeaten games. That roster also was known by executing amazing comebacks (they once went down 9-0 against astralis and still made it to OT, lifting the trophy) and gorgeus clutches and highlights by coldzera.
But i think astralis is different. They don't rely on a single strong map nor much less on a good player doing clutches, since to be able to perform comebacks and clutches you need to capitalize upon opponents' mistakes. They have an extremely tactical game philosophy and have a plan B for every possible situation at the match, this way they are pretty good in almost all maps. They can neutralize every highlight, every clutch, then can make a amazing player like Simple looks silly.
Dude, starting on the terrorist side against Navi and managing to close the first half by 11x4 on Nuke, which is a completely CT Side favorable map, man this is simply ridiculous... Astralis boys are in another dimension
What was the 9-0 match?
@manTa Beats
it was 2017 Blast Pro Series Final, against astralis crowd
that was the first time Fallen started to use the meme "fallen the librarian"
Glaive made a overpass default tactic that helped Astralis beat sk 7 times on overpass, before then sk would be dominating them more.
I'm LP
We can say that they are the best at the moment
15yrs ago I used smokes to drop my opponents fps 🤣
Dude, so relatable. I remember all those poor Pentium 4s in computer club rooms.
feel like I'm one of the only people who is absolutely in love with this playstyle from Astralis hahaha I love the tactical approach they bring to this game and their dedication is soooo motivation. thanks for these videos Elmapuddy! :-D
People say Astralis play boring CS but
I feel it's very interesting and I love watching them play . The amount of homework they do and the amount of time they invest. People should appreciate them more
@@adi555j people who say it is boring are kids who like to see stupid flicks and shit
@@adi555j zonic actually finds cs 1.6's fast gameplay boring and loves the tactical element of csgo, he said that in an interview, so zonic enjoys creating strategies
@@alfiepicton1339 I saw people complaining recently about astralis being boring during the 2018 - 19 era, and they prefer Navis gamestyle over astralis
Astralis are playing such a dominant and good cs that it is almost boring to watch their games in my opinion, because the other teams almost dont have a chance. I enjoyed the challenger and legends stage games more this major than then playoffs. These games were closer annd more exciting. But i still have to pay some respect to astralis for their skill and team play :) And again a good analysis by you! Keep up the great content ;)
I think personally it's more on the other teams' fault than Astralis that they couldn't step up to the plate and make it challenging.
Astralis play a beautiful (or some would say perfect even) CS indeed.
Of course it is not astralis' fault, you are right. They are just 2 steps ahead. But that makes is not that exciting like two teams on the same level. I hope the other teams work on their mistakes and break that astralis era to show some exciting games ;)
It is boring because this game doesn't encourage clutching at all. One of the things that I hate the most is that if you are in a 4v1 or 3v1 you have to stop playing the game to not lose your rifle, absolutely stupid. A game that encourages you to not play instead of playing the actual game. This game should have a huge reward system to encourage clutching. This is becoming not only boring to watch but also boring to play. Watching Astralis playing is almost like watching a chess game.
Their opponents respect them a bit too much. Astralis are probably best team on a tactical level and masters of teamplay and timings, but other teams need to do something to push them out od their comfort zone and take the game to them.
Yeah, we really need another couple teams at astralis' level before playoffs become exciting.
for me the real grand final was faze vs astralis
True
For me Mibr-Astralis 0-16 lel
who would have thought that faze's ct sides would be better than both of liquid's and navi's ct and t sides
You mean Astralis vs Liquid. Liquid was the only team that resembled a decent competition to Astralis in this major.
the bo1 in the groupstage yeah, but not the bo3 semi final they played, which finished 2-0 with neither game going to double digits
remember when *EVERYONE* said that -Karrigan + glaive is gonna kill Astralis forever?
lol.
I am one of them who said it lol you can't blame us as glaive was unknown in csgo let alone Denmark but so glad it happened best igl in history
You're exaggerating massively
@@theobvu it turned out be aladeen news for astralis xD
@@belair5009 you're right... Astralis only won like... Almost every single tournament this year.
@@walkntalkwithprasanna2004 well they won both major's this year tho xd
When they just turn around and walk back to A site is so cool
Dont know why but seeing simple from 5:15 till he die in that round is quite satisfying considering he is the best rn and it shows how team oriented cs is
As a wannabe IGL your channel has been a godsend, really appreciate the time this kind of video takes mate. Hopefully run into you in an aussie server some day.
I say probably one of if not the greatest Csgo team of all time. Their consistency,discipline,dominance,map pool and tactics are way ahead of everyone right now..... faze,navi and mibr May have “better” Individuals but none of their teamwork’s are up to scratch. Even in losses,they would normally lose in a close fashion
Honestly, I think every player on Astralis is among the best riflers in cs, everyone can carry the game, but they still just play the positions that they planned without hunting for frags, which honestly they could do pretty easily.
Honestly I think faze could’ve won against Astralis their t side on mirage and inferno held them down
Top 3. I still think Fnatic 2015 and argubaly SK 2017 are better.
@@AstroSully SK 2017 not for sure.
Chan Chan Won 8 titles mate.
Part of the success of glaive's smoke in the 19th round was imo due to the fact that Navi got rekt by CZs the round before. Mind games.
After i started watching your videos i ranked up from silver 4 to MGE in less than 3 months
Are u already banned ?
Astralis is like a SKT t1 team from league of legends. They bring new strategy and play style that make it 1 perfect game. Not just go kamikaze and wish for lucky shot. As this happen, all team will learn this and Astralis will not be in the same position again. For us, the fans, we can get 1 minute quick nap every round before the fight scene start. if u know what i mean.
Other teams won't learn because there is only a very limited amount of geniuses. This applies to csgo. A lot of tier 1 team members are simply not smart enough to compete with current Astralis. We've always said Astralis simply play off their opponent's mistakes, well yeah. They do. The other teams aren't as smart, thus always make mistakes. This won't get fixed lol unless new players arrive
I think other teams will have to adapt and restructure themselves. This will take time with constant tourneys every few weeks at least, as reprogramming a team's entire structure and practice routines is no small task. What we desperately need for the scene is better coaching. Better salaries and more respect from viewers and players alike. Coaches like zonic are almost unheard of even in modern csgo. Individual team members have way too much influence over what goes on in the team and how they play, based only on feeling how they want to play. Whereas zonic actually has influence over team members, having the authority to bench players based on performance. Not to mention the countless hours he puts in to help gla1ve lead and innovating from an outside perspective.
Why I mention salaries is because it's simple. Who'd wanna make the commitment to be a CSGO coach right now? It's not a well respected position like in professional sports, where a coach can make or break a team. Most
CSGO coaches nowadays are coaches because of connections or just love for the game. This doesn't guarantee the best talent. zonic is an anomaly.
Not to even speak of the fact that Astralis is simply ahead of the curve. They've played this clean brand of Counter-Strike for years, perfected it over time in their system with only small roster changes over this time. This is why we need proper coaches for the other teams. They don't have years to perfect their gameplan if they truly want to be the best any time soon. I don't see Astralis imploding with their system unless their players face internal issues. And even for that, Astralis is already ahead. Their support system is unparalleled. The hiring of a sports psychologist, the one and only zonic and the players' own mindsets are what separate them from the rest.
When SK used to dominate CSGO scene, there was a meme about it being SK_Train, because of their run of 20 consecutive unbeaten games. That roster also was known by executing amazing comebacks (they once went down 9-0 against astralis and still made it to OT, lifting the trophy) and gorgeus clutches and highlights by coldzera.
But i think astralis is different. They don't rely on a single strong map nor much less on a good player doing clutches, since to be able to perform comebacks and clutches you need to capitalize upon opponents' mistakes. They have an extremely tactical game philosophy and have a plan B for every possible situation at the match, this way they are pretty good in almost all maps. They can neutralize every highlight, every clutch, then can make a amazing player like Simple looks silly.
Dude, starting on the terrorist side against Navi and managing to close the first half by 11x4 on Nuke, which is completely CT Side favorable, man this is simply ridiculous
Astralis boys are in another dimension
1:52 legend says that was for youtube
Good video as always
It’s sad that Astralis is getting all the hate for being boring, while in fact it’s the other teams who just aren’t good enough, and can’t keep up with Astralis’ level.
Even tho that its always been pretty obvious since the London Qualifiers that Astralis will win the whole Major, im still disappointed with NiP, i expected them to make a big comeback after a long rest...
Welp, we cant always have good things.
To be fair they did look pretty solid. Unfortunately they had the hardest draw out of any team in my opinion.
NiP chances were pretty much hit by the draw... From Tyloo onwards,it was Astralis,mouz,liquid,navi,Vega and ending their last game with MiBR... NiP has the firepower but not the discipline nor tactics...
NiP is still one of the only teams that defeated Astralis in a map in this Major.
That round on Nuke where the one smoke from glaive basically won them the round feels like a faceit pug where everybody is too scared to push resulting in a round loss lmao
Perfect timing to drop it into my recommendation, youtube 😅...
i've a question: where are you from? english is not my main language but it's curious how you pronounce the words.
Aussie
респект за тренер го еще с тренером на мираже и оверпассе
Astralis were playing those Nuke gun rounds like perfect robots, Navi had no chance. I wish you have covered the way they push positions together, that one round where Flamie was awping ramp for CT, where he is holding an angle, and in like 3 seconds he sees smoke, gets flashed of his position, drops down and picks a very narrow angle one last time only to see 4 terrorist faces and Device already holding an angle with awp and instantly killing him.
Yeah, they were making all the correct decisions aswell
Zonic looked like he was the only human in that team lol
As a navi fan the 8:25 round really frustrated me. In the tactical aspect navi was no rival to Astralis this final, they read navi perfectly
astralis is the seal tem 6 on their free time. damn! i love this team. people who get bored while watching them play are just not into this kind of playstyle. i understand everyone's opinion though, i just find it entertaining.
Look at astralis now, whats goin on?
@@jonathansuparta3857 they finally get there break!!!! after winning 3 majors in a row and all these basically irrelevant online tournaments are happening the entire team can just rest for a bit after being so focused and at the top for so long
Navi spent 90 seconds each round without gaining anything, really boring cs
ElmaPuddy with the fast upload!!!
Can u download a full game of astralis
With their team speak?
That would be dope
Thank you for ur videos man
Dont stop doing ur thing
Hey guys, I know I'm a year late but check out astralis' youtube channel. They upload their teamspeak records there
Hey Elmapuddy do you know if someone does these analysis for other games? I love Rocket league and i think it would work for that game aswell
@elmapuddy Why didn't NaVi spam the smoke walls?
They are one step from planting the bomb but they decided to chill and rotate damn, if it was my team we would just explode into the site
2:44 But how can Gla1ve be sure no one is playing there from NaVi? Imagine if Flamie was a tad earlier on the rotation.. Gla1ve would have been killed, Flamie picked up AK and maybe do some more dmg and delay until rotations came in.
gla1ve is the first man in...it's his role to just go right in and create space. he has his other players make sure to be right behind him for that instant trade. however if it was Dupreeh who's pretty well known for being a fantastic entry I'm sure he checks more angles just because that's his role. however in that strat it's gla1ves role to just push in and get as much map control as possible.
astralis was pretty impressiv again this major. Hands down!
I like these vids! 😊
The smartest csgo team since the Fnatic era. Nothing but respect for this team
astralis been working hard af this past year
Elmapuddy!
insane
4:14 How to entry B sige on Nuke. By Magisk
with a Spinbot ?
navi's t-sides in the grand final were horrific. they gain little to no map control, try to execute with 20 seconds left and hope s1mple and electronic hit their shots, and s1mple didn't really turn up at all. only 7 t rounds over 2 maps, 3 of which came off the back of a pistol win.
truly zeus calling at his worst, something we have seen in past navi lineups. An inability to change and adapt, and a timidity and tendency to hold angles then dry execute with very little time left.
Elmapuddy, what kind of trophy did you got?
Or everyone else, what kind of trophy do you guys got?
I got gold(◦˙▽˙◦).
100 points for me :>
（￣～￣）95.......... lost hell lot of points at legends stage（￣～￣）
i forgot to pick the legens stage, got 4 points in the challenger stage and still got gold, because i had 100% in the playoffs. too ez :D
Gold like everyone haha
My like is the 2018th one :D
group stage more entertaining than playoffs...
Agreed. 90% of the playoff games were blowouts. Only 1 playoff match made it to 3 maps. Incredibly disappointing major :(
yeah exactly and no upsets either.
Lol and the taser battle
Karrygan vs niko igl vid ?
They win all the majors
NAVI were very nervous before the final it's not the same team as against mibr or BIG and that's sad but congrat to Astralis they looks more disciplined
you are so fast
Astralis 100% win rate on nuke 😨
Why cant you throw a single molotov tfrom outside instead of 3 He 1and one molotov? Dota player thinking efficient 😅
NAVI didn’t show up for the final
Navi being such a good team although next to astralis looks like rookies
Astralis made nuke look T sided
Could you become an analyst for the big stages, please? I am sick and tired of Machine and Co.
The problem with show analysts is that they don’t have that much time to gather all the necessary information to actually do the proper analysis, coz they have to start talking right after a break. This youtuber on the other hand has all the time in this world to do so. That’s why, don’t take those analysts seriously, because the format of streaming makes it impossible to do real analysis. They are just entertainers, that is who they are.
nice fvking analisis
i really dont understand why other teams do not ban nuke against this guys...
because every team has that one map that they perma ban and don't practice for a reason...most teams that Astralis played are capable of playing Nuke but aren't capable of playing other maps. For example Liquid...they always permaban Overpass because they just simply don't practice it enough. they'd rather play nuke that they know how to play then say overpass which Astralis are very good at and Liquid doesn't know how to play it properly.
this grand final, it's not s1mple's fault. Astralis just too smart
never stay behind smoke or get bombed lol
are you australian?
Kind of unfair on all the other teams how good astralis are
>All 4F players concentrating in towards this bombsite...
Wait wut.jpg
Oh lol, All *five* players hehehe
>Totally not a Brit making fun of other countries' English accents
Watching this in 2022 as an Astralis fan whrn Astralis is playing like dogshit....Hope they come back
dupreeh #notSOlegit
what
Er jeg den eneste danske?
Notif squad :))
I thought astralis played a really good game but after your analysis I'm even more impressed with astralis gameplay
For some reason I thought this video would be about 20-25 mins long! xDDDDD
liquid defeated astralis nip defeated astralis and still the won
Both teams won against astralis in a Best of 1, in overtime, astralis won every other game with an average score of 16-10 (correct me if im wrong), plus they only played mirage and inferno in the qualifier
И снова здравствуйте! Elmapuddy
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Although Astralis is extremely good they play like robots and it’s boring to watch, they don’t do any crazy plays they just use a shit load of nades and then kill everyone
first
One of most boring finals ever:
>no bo5
>no sick moves,aces,OTs
>no close matches
Even NIP vs Astralis was better with quad OT,however congrats to NaVi for making it to the 2nd place imo it's just simple,electronic and flamie vs 5 players.Congrats to Astralis for winning.
Sorry but if you get a double entry kill you should be able to close out the round anyways. The call to rotate back is nothing special in a 4v2. What is even the point of talking about strategy when astralis are just winning so many straight entry duels
You want to face s1mple in a 4v2? Does keeping as many players alive as possible for your economy not matter in this game? These are all things that matter and need to be considered. What youre saying here is basically 90% chance to win the lottery is good enough for me so no point making that 99%
lamest cs go team ever
People say they're boring because they don't understand how CS works and they think that CS is all about hitting crazy shots. You can hit crazy shots, I respect people like s1mple who are mechanically gifted like that, but on the pro level, strategy reigns supreme
Yo your content is dope. That's all.
where did you get this replay?
1:51 is pretty gud
19*
thanks for spoiling the result of the major...