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Top notch info. I hope people listen to this video in its entirety and understand the NEED to address these major concerns. I hope there’s experts that are generous like you and your group and willing to provide aid in those specific remediation efforts. All the bodies that are still buried could possibly create bacteria issues.
I said this weeks ago 🤦 I tried to warn you. Everyone attacked me! smh (THE SEWER BACKED UP! It's filled with bio=hazard! It was H1V/aids sludge yall were digging in!) Edit: PS: that sludge dried onto everything! The dust is toxic. The mold that grows will be EXTRA toxic. It only gets worse from here.... 🤦
I'm glad you're seeing this. This is why watching what big corporations do with their waste is very important, not in just disasters. Martin County, Ky is still working on contaminated water from coal mining. I'm all for natural remediation of the land, especially having been apart of the Michigan PBB fire retardant scandal in 1973. It still shows in my blood work. They buried the cattle that ingested the beef. Michigan gov't buried its head in the sand.
There are 2 utube channels I have been listening to is Permapasture Farm and the Permapasture Consultant(father and son) who are working with a bioengineer to find exactly what the contaminats are do they can figureout what the contaminants are so they can figure out what bacteria and fungi can remediate this. There were things much worse than golf course contaminants. You need to listen to them if you want to help or remediate what's been done to your body already.
I know a Salvation Army pastor who was helping in NYC after 9/11. He sadly succumbed to multiple cancers, we suspect due to being at ground zero while the fires were still burning. Thank you for highlighting the exposure to contaminants!
Cancer killed my Brother. Throat cancer, he was in Iraq during the war when the wells were burning. He was in a green zone also and never came or left aside of helicopter. He was working for Haliburton.
@@monmixersorry to hear that. Several of my buddies that retired from the military told me about everything that they were exposed to. They said they’re keeping their faith and hoping for protection from God
It wasn’t the fires that were the problem - it was the ash. The twin towers had a lot of asbestos that was released when the burned material released it.
Also Permapasture Consultant. They are working with an independent bioengineer to find out exactly what needs remediated . There's a whole group working together on this@@ONThree
This is something that environmental protection will be doing. Local, state and federal agencies have been testing daily. You have to be very careful about what you plant. It’s easy to plant invasive species that end up harming the environment and ecosystem. They have also asked people to allow them to handle decontamination when they know larger amounts of chemicals are present. Unfortunately some have not listened and have probably done more harm than good.
Things like plastic will continue to put plastic chemicals into the soil for decades if they are not removed. Industrial factories need to be built *only* where there is no realistic risk of flooding or other disasters that would spread the chemicals into the soil or water.
Yes, please be careful. My son developed cancer after helping clean up in TX with Hurricane Harvey. He’s now a two time survivor. Prayers for protection for all from all.
WNC resident here. Over the last month i have found broken car batteries, empty gallons of automotive clear coat, bunch of aerosol cans, ant killer drums, a syringe, and broken barrel of antifreeze. Doctors offices, pharmacies, auto body shops, oil change businesses, lumber yards were all damaged or destroyed in this darn storm. Not to mention just regular garages and shops that were swept away. Well, half of the stuff ended up in lake lure, the other half went to erwin. Not a good scenario for us.
Many prayers for you all. I hope that extensive remediation takes place quickly. I understand cleanup is of more importance right now. Heading back next week to help clean and rebuild.
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The RDX manufacturing operation was not flooded or affected. This area did not have major flooding and no mudslides. Different river system. Just wind and rain.
Remember the food chain. We didn't consider the food chain when we were using DDT for weed control. We almost lost our eagles to the use of DDT. The mice and birds eat seeds from the plants that are "not sensitive, or not targeted" by the defoliant, and were then consumed by hawks, eagles, and other animals. This resulted in weakening the egg shells, so that there were years with no hatchling. Consider the wildlife that would consume the high protein seeds of the hemp and sunflowers planted to filter toxins from the soil and water. Also, browsing animals grazing on the foliage of the plants along the sides of the waterways. Area hunters should be aware of the very real possibility of high amounts of toxins in game birds and game animals in the affected areas for years to come. I don't have any answers, just wanted to warn of this danger. Environmental biologists should be a part of the recovery process. The danger will be present for a long time, until nature has a chance to work it's magic.
Things are going to be horrible from an environmental toxicity perspective in a serious way for a very long time Think about it this way. Think about whatever chemicals were under everyone's sinks, or in their garages? Think about every car , every gas station, every fertilizer depo. Think about every shop, every small manufacturer, every factory, every train car, all of that stuff, multiplied by the hundreds of thousands, all of it got washed into the the water and then sunk into what was left of the topsoil. Serious remediation needs to happen for any of that land to be good for growing food and for any ground water to be safe again
Superfund sites take decades for remediation. I would take pics, take samples of water, air, soil for professional analysis & get a lawyer asap.. Preserving your life by leaving is more important than staying with so many uncontained carcinogens! Ppl will clean, grass may grow but a new normalcy will create a false sense of security & safety meanwhile toxins can outgas from the ground, travel in the wind & will take years to overcome. This horrific tragedy grieves every decent person that is aware of it. 🙏🙏 for all that have suffered at the hands of the wicked in this generation! This world us not our home. Maranantha! Come Lord Jesus.
All of that stuff flushed out from under everyone's sink or garage, or from that local business or factory when they flooded, went into the water and didnt just go away. it soaked into the soil somewhere down stream. Wherever the water accumulated and soaked in, is now full of Lord knows what,, ,
After assessing all the debris and chemical contamination left behind by Hurricane Helene, it’s clear that cleanup and remediation will take years. It made us wonder and research how similar disasters have been handled in the past. Learning that sunflowers, hemp, and other plants we consume are excellent at absorbing chemicals and heavy metals has given me pause-even when they’re labeled organic. I may be more cautious about buying organic sunflower seeds to consume and applying organic hemp salves.
What cleanup? So many disasters have occurred & we have absolutely no idea they happened. Could have been ancient nuclear disasters and such. No person knows ot just kept quiet.
I love that y'all are bringing awareness to these concerns. I wouldn't have thought about the soil and mud being contaminated. I'm so glad Christi mentioned it to me before i went. I encouraged everyone there to use masks and gloves based on your experiences. But probably the best part of this video was the last 5 or so seconds. 😂
West Asheville near Riverside Park as you can imagine is but one place where there was silt, very fine & dusty, in the air. As I was driving to South Asheville to shop at the Whole Foods I made the mistake of rolling my car windows down along the way. I paid a high price as far as nasty symptoms for several days! That must have been around October 26th.
An very tragic reality that all of us in WNC need to be aware of now. I love the south AVL WF. But, it is probably safer to shop the Tunnel Rd WF now. We are in Yancey Co. There is silica everywhere. And we know that is toxic, too. I grieve for all of creation. Be safe.
I am glad someone is talking about this you don't see it in the videos. People don't realize this storm wiped out towns so you have sewage trash gasoline propane you name it . Most wells aren't any good anymore they will have to be redrilled. The smells are horrible. Thanks forgetting this out there.
It is being more than talked about. There is a group formed with an independent bioengineer testing, trying to find out the exact contaminants so others can find bacteria and fungi to mitigate this disaster. 2 utube channels working with this group is Permapasture Consultant and Permapasture Farm. Their channels posted this groups 1st meeting. Billy Bond of Permapasture Farm lives in the mitigation area
I am from Erwin, TN and from my experience dealing with NFS, yes there was most likely some type of contamination coming out of that plant. We are in a situation here where, the plant, which is still in operation, was flooded on the backside. They also found 'supposedly', and I'm saying it like that for a reason, there was a semi found with 250 55gallon barrels were found buried in 10 feet of mud and debris. They say they're unused, training barrels, but that doesn't seem to be the case. The nuclear industry will try to cover it up!!!
Palestine, OH is a good example of contaminate clean up with respect to all the responsible parties, thier legally assigned roles and limitations, etc...
Its good to see your subs growing. Your hands on, honest, practical , sensible approach to every vid I have ever watched over the years should have had you at 500k subs! Minimum! Keep up the strong work brother!
@J.Benson Ive watched jason for a few years now. He always has honest practical advice. His earlier vids with Allen Kay are some of the best. These two are hilarious and practical!
You’re very right! My wife started telling people about that 15 plus years ago. It’s mind boggling what our g0v has allowed. Not really surprised anymore after we went down the deep dark rabbit hole 15 years ago
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Round Up has a completely different composition to “Agent Orange”. Round Up is Glyphosate. Agent Orange was a mixture of 2,4,5-T and 2,4-D but its contamination with dioxin due to extremely sloppy manufacturing added to its toxicity. Glyphosate is a phosphorus based chemical (and has no chlorine or benzene rings in the final product). 2,4,5-T and 2,4-D are chlorinated benzene based (and have no phosphorus). Completely different chemicals. Glyphosate has a half life persistence in the environment depending on temperature between two days (at 60F) and three months (in freezing conditions).
As a former military veteran and one that works in Environmental Health for veterans due to Military Environmental Exposures the lasting effects from breathing in chemicals, sewerage and other toxic materials can really damage lungs, skin and heart.
Sulphuric acid is so reactive that it is essentially just “gone” making gypsum as soon as it finds some calcium carbonate (limestone). The lead and lead sulphate in the batteries is a different question and should be salvaged as soon as possible to prevent long term issues. (Lithium is way less toxic).
I am just south of that Nuc Power Plant. Have not heard one word about any contamination from flooding in our local media. They apparently took 2 coal-fired units offline to protect it during storms. Looks like another storm has been brewing for a few weeks now and may be set to repeat in exact same direction in Gulf as the last 2 storms. 🙏🏻 for everyone!
Heard 4 of 10 rescue dogs died; the other 6 are sick... See truthstream media vids.. idk the area but pt 3 mentions a barrel & conflicting info on safety-
I would like to add as a mediation to this, and make no mistake I agree that it is a big problem, that I witnessed the water. In my front yard. It looked like the North Atlantic. I know. I am a Navy veteran who has seen the anger of the North Atlantic. A stream normally four inches of babbling water over rocks was a twenty-foot-deep Class VI rapids or greater torrent, heading downhill at essentially 32 feet per second per second. It was endless water in free fall, roaring like a freight train or tornado. It formed maelstroms as the earth gave way. Not whirlpools, maelstroms. Niagra if you cannot believe the North Atlantic. The point is that this was not a flood of rising water. It was running water. It washed away trains. And the cross ties and roadbed they rested on. Not derailed, washed away. When it finally receded, there was nothing left but the rocks and gaping holes. Nothing good left, and nothing bad left either. Nature overwhelmed all the good in us. And it will overwhelm the bad too. All that bad stuff is somewhere of course. But it is not hiding under every rock. Certainly not where I am just east of Black Mountain. "I remember seeing a fence with dead horses all piled up against it twenty feet deep. There must have been a hundred. The railroad was sticking straight up into the air like a tower." (My great aunt Jemima. That's right... I actually had an Aunt Jemima. She was recalling the 1916 flood in the same area. I didn't really believe her then. Just an old woman exaggerating. I believe her now.
Niagara Falls is a great reference. Here in Greene County TN we had twice the waterflow of Niagara Falls cascading over top of the Nolichucky River dam at peak flow. All flood stage records were shattered with this storm. How our dam held through all this is a miracle. Truly a staggering event.
Thanks for bringing awareness to a biger problem and don’t for get about the fish in the river I hope the fish man or aware and not eat anything that comes out of the river ✌️👍🤙
@@ONThreeBut landfills take a lot of time to build. At least up here they do. I live in a community with several landfills, some old, some in use, some being built. Unless they are not being claylined and other processes.
Every building holds endless chemicals . In a fire it burns into our air and in a flood it turns to chemmy stew. Let alone the businesses and industry supply. Bummer
The first army reactor had a similar fate. . . Read, The Radioactive Boyscot. . . If it can happen it will, these cyclones travel inland a couple of times every hundred years. . . Lady slippers, Indian pipes and rainbow trout all require good clean water. . . And other living things to live
All kinds of gas, propane, used oil, transmission/ hydraulic fluid from all of the vehicles. Very sad a nd helluva clean up. Hard to clean up anything when you lost it all, including vehicles.
I was wonderingabout debris burning too. I realize people want to jump in and fix things quickly without red tape or "government interference" slowing them down, but how do locals weigh the risk/benefit decision. If the people burning the debris don't even live in NC how concerned are they about the chemicals being put into the ir and as spread to surrounding hillsides? What are the short- and long-term effects to children, elderly, farm animals, dairy products, chickens/eggs? Does burning lift contaminants through the air to join with headwaters that may be used for drinking and agriculture?
The PVC pipe factory along the river in Asheville now looks like a giant game of pick-up-sticks gone terribly wrong. PVC pipes are everywhere in that section of the river. The water in the river was never clean in the first place. Raw sewage was known to be piped in the river. I love this region. But, I find it appalling the lack of concern about the waterways health. I lived in rural Buncombe County. A neighborhood upstream of us was dumping raw sewage in the creek. We had to report them multiple times for it to stop. Our neighbors across the creek sprayed a toxic brew along the creek and throughout their property. They are "landscapers" who spray under power lines. There toxic cocktail components were stored next to the creek. No entity, at any level, cared to do anything about their toxicity. There are multiple stories such as these. No doubt, we will be told everything is fine, nothing to be concerned about.
Except there will be zero vinyl chloride in a PVC pipe plant. Polyvinyl chloride is so tightly polymerised that it will be essentially inert. Vinyl chloride is a GAS. It’s like worrying about the Vinyl Cyanide used to make acrylic paints - it’s not free in the finished consumer product.
Wrong. Incandescent globes are full of inert argon or nitrogen. Fluorescent lights are problematic because of the mercury inside them (which is why LED lamps are SO much better).
Living in Watauga county, we have farms up above us, and small shops, during the flooding, it washed down tanks of heating oil, fuel tanks, paint, solvents and all kinds of junk as people’s homes and sheds flooded. The area was also known for mining hundreds of years ago. Lots of cramp in the soil now. We are only using bottled water since. Asheville was known for having a protected reservoir, all the junk from the surrounding mountains has washed down in it. The TN area has a few munition factories, have knowledge of their location or flooding.
I have lived close to Ohio River all of my life. We are told to wait a few months before planting after flooding and I have seen and lived through some pretty serious ones here on the upper Ohio. It's much more narrow valley when you start getting 100 miles or so above Cincinnati This is what we were always told to do. I just google searched and pretty much said the same : Flood waters from the Ohio River can contaminate soil with chemicals and biological contaminants that can be harmful to human health: Soil pathogens and parasites Floodwater-saturated soil can contain human pathogens and parasites. Contaminated plants and soil People can be at risk if they touch contaminated plants and soil, eat produce from contaminated plants, or breathe in dust from contaminated soil. Water-borne bacteria and viruses High water can overwhelm sewer and waste management systems, which can spread bacteria and diarrhea-causing diseases. Standing water Standing water can create a breeding ground for microorganisms and biting insects. Toxic sites The Ohio River Valley has many toxic sites, including the Peters Cartridge Factory in Kings Mills, Ohio, and the North 25th Street Glass and Zinc site in Clarksburg, West Virginia. To minimize the risk of re-exposure to contaminated soil, you should not replant your garden for 2-3 months after a flood. To rehabilitate soil that has lost its structure and aeration, you can break up the clay bonds and reintroduce air into the soil. I think winter wil take care of the issue for the most part. If you have a weak immune system may want to consider testing for sure.
The nuclear plant is south of Cedar Key at Crystal River. We were looking at real estate in the area until we learned about thr issue that caused the plant to be shut down.
The rivers and small creeks. It was insane to see the destruction caused by small streams. It rained for so long that a lot of water ran down into the smaller streams creating these monstrous body of waters with powerful currents that led to severe flooding.
Tiny streams you could easily jump over became raging rivers. There are streams, creeks and rivers running all over these mountains. The flooding was truly biblical. And, there were massive mudslides, tornadoes to add to the destruction. A couple Marines were at our Distribution site. They stated that they bombed places that looked better than here. It is that catastrophic.
Did you all mention anything about mold ? I live close to the Swannanoa River near Bee Tree, Warren Wilson and have mold... Had to have a wall cut out and now seeing more... Thank you so much for your video. I feel so bad for wildlife, drinking out of the rivers.
If the soil and water are contaminated for the long-term future, how would anyone be able to live in the region safely? Will there be a massive abandonment of this region?
Why won't the news or anybody tell us how many has died I know it's over 200 people because my husband and I have been there but why aren't they telling the truth
There is so much deception in reporting going on here. The locals that are awake are aware of it. The death toll is definitely higher. The missing persons number is higher, too. The numbers are not being accurately reported. Maybe it's the new math?!
You did a good job of pointing out remediation and *especially the follow-thru of remediation, such as what is done with the collector plants after they've taken up the toxins. I want to point out that the assumption that water in the higher elevations of the mountains ought to be safer from the pollutants is missing a very important aspect of how wind and rain cycle airborne particulates right to those places. The particles rise higher and higher during the daytime with human activities and heat. Then they descend all the way down to the land surface (mostly) during the still and cool of the night. The sides of mountains act as scrapers and collectors of the air and all those airborne particulates, which are carried over by wind patterns and weather and are deposited in large portions by rain that is also squeezed out heavier on one slope than another. Years of radiation testing in past decades caused particularly large deposits of fallout on the nearest slopes that receive more wind and rain impacts, even though they were far from the testing sites. Even more impacted were the lowest marshy flats and shorelines of the outflows of waterways that particulates continued to flow down and settle out over many years. But don't forget that cycle of wind and precipitation that carries the particulates into the wall of the mountains and foothills. Even a recent study of PFOS chemicals showed a very unanticipated high amount of those "forever chemicals" in the highest springs nestled under granite outcrops on the highest peaks. That's because of the action of wind and rain on airborne particulates. So I'm saying, don't assume it should be less in the higher elevations. Think AIR routes, not just ground routes. Thank you for putting out this kind of very helpful and important information.
Take multiple test samples from multiple depths at each test point on your property. Take samples from different areas of your property. Send those samples to the free state lab and then send another identical sample to a private laboratory west of the Mississippi river to ensure the state isn’t withholding any information. What the state lab will do is say whether it’s ok to live on not give you the actual results of the PPM of the contaminants in the soil. I was on the ground for 2 weeks and it’s bad and the government response is geared towards not causing a panic rather than preservation of life.
Unfortunately everything still is covered in dust. Over a month of day in, day out cleanup and we still trying to dig out, clean up and rebuild. But yes rashes and respiratory issues Poplar area at least. Great video again!!! Thank you
Anything released during the flood was probably diluted enough to be a non-issue. (Hopefully). The bigger problem is leaking containers, fuel tanks, etc., that continue to leak after the flood waters subsided.
People whine and complain about epa Regs, zoning laws, and supposed govn overreach. Then they complain about pollution. We need the EPA, WE NEED ZONING REGS. They protect us. We are the government. Get educated get involved
EPA was made aware of multiple issues prior to this catastrophic event. Raw sewage has been dumped into the French Broad River and it's tributaries for a long time. The papermill dumped toxins in the waterway. Those are just a couple issues they turned a blind eye to. They didn't care then, I don't have faith that they care now.
EPA rules were not being followed. The government was lying to the people in these areas. They want the people gone so they can mine the lithium and other things needed for "green" energy. That cut the water to potato farmers in Idaho for the same reason.
I've noticed other communities got flooded. Afterward, they request and receive massive amounts of money, which gets eaten up by planning and engineering costs. Basically, they do a small project once in a while but get massive funding for decades.
Home owners on wells need to have the water tested regular, this storm Will have effects for who knows how long! More people like you need to be putting out the message!!!!
They were deployed before the storm hit, but the storm hit a multi-state area and I imagine they're addressing the water purification systems for more densely populated areas while roads are being rebuilt next to rivers, creeks, culverts and debris slides. They work in tandem with state and local health departments, DNR and waste management. Transparency would be nice, but they're terrible at PR and they don't draw news reporters because they're not the most exciting story compared to heroic volunteers and helicopters.
So sad because there will be long term effects for humans, animals, wildlife, flora, and anything you touch. It’s a toxic environment now and will it ever really be habitable.
I'm worried about all the aluminum and other chemicals they're dumping into the reservoir to reduce the turbidity to restore water to Asheville. What kind of health problems will all that cause down the road? I'll just continue to filter all my water with my Berkey I guess.
Your concern is real. My husband is a functional medicine practitioner. We have found that Zero water filters does a better job in removing toxins. For whole house filter, the Aquasana filtration system is the best. We had one when we lived in Buncombe County.
Aluminium Chloride is added in most drinking water treatment systems. It’s really good at binding silt into sediment so it can be filtered out. Not adding too much is the key.
@@allangibson8494 it doesn't get filtered, it causes the silt to settle so they can start the filtering process. If they filter the water now with all the silt free floating it'll ruin the filters. They've even said as much.
@ The same chemical is added to the front end of water treatment plants. The first stage sand filters need this to take the fine silt out and then are periodically back flushed to the sewer to remove the agglomerations. More silt requires more frequent back flushing. If it is on the bottom of the dam you don’t need to worry (at least until the next flood). Sand filters are really useful if you harvest your own water (and really cheap).
If only we could cut back on using these things in the first place! We'd have fewer destructive weather events. Parts of the world have to deal with this on a regular basis and the Western world is largely to blame. It is very sad.
If your land has been contaminated, you need to move. It will take longer than your life span to clear it up. I know that’s terrible but let’s be realistic.
These are strong people that have cared for the land for hundreds of years across many successive lifetimes. It's a legacy of love and hope that inspires me beyond measure.
It looked like you were coming around the corner near River Ridge Mall with that colorful striped car wash building, across from the golf course there?? In Asheville on Swananoa River Road, near the 24-hour Walmart on Bleachery Boulevard - which in itself has been a brownfield bc of the bleacher back in the day 😢
Businesses large and small should provide lists and amounts of chemicals that were washed away. Put the locations on maps, with colors denoting the amounts, and also the buoyancy. Some things will sink, and some will float. Knowing such things can help calculate and map the spread of contaminates. This data can be cross-referenced with actual testing results, to get an idea if accurate predictions are possible to map over large areas. etc
PVC powder is inert (unless burned). With an SG of 1.4 it will rapidly sink into the bottom of lakes and join all the other plastic there (except closed containers and polyethylene and polypropylene that float).
PVC is essentially inert in both powder and finished product form. It is problematic if it is burned however. Polyethylene and polypropylene are similar. The pigments can be problematic (particularly the carbon black) (which is why most finished product manufacturers prefer to use plastic encapsulated pigments). The MONOMERS are a different question but there is a complete disconnect between the polymer production and final product production except for the glass reinforced plastics industry (where you have the catalyst and monomers stored in the final production locations).
My only suggestion is, if you use plants to draw the pollution out of the ground, these plants need to be somehow protected from being eaten by wildlife.
I Imagine many of these Deep Country places along the river used Septic Tanks and the Sewage they were holding was Washed away or their Contents Belched Out right into the Flood water...
For anyone volunteering in these areas, always bring you a good p100 mask. 3M specifically, would prefer full face mask. Not that crap from harbor freight. They do not work. I have tested these out with an old freezer that stopped working and had rotting food inside. The harbor freight allowed the odors in. The 3M was perfectly sealed. Now with that being said, I am telling people to do this due to the toxic mold that is 100% growing in these water damaged places. Even if you think it will be a few seconds. Put the mask on. There are definitely mycotoxins and spores you do not want to breathe in. Aspergillis, t2), Aflatoxins, Fusarium and more. If you have been exposed, you need to be tested for mycotoxins. If you have mycotoxins then you have an infection or infections. Symptoms will be fatigue, bloody nose, spaciness and dizziness, breathing issues, headaches, brain fog, tremors, hair loss, light intolerance and more. It will also likely hit the immune system. Mycotoxin tests include my myco lab, real time labs, prairie labs. You need an integrative or functional dr to test for these things, and if positive you need antifungals and binders to get this crap out the body. I know that is a lot to take in but you do not want these to cause you harm. Also, you need something like Fiberlock cleaner specifically shockwave and a pump sprayer, as well as gloves and eye protection. You do not want this on you. I would be using this everywhere that had damage, that is salvageable. This stuff cleans mold, but also bacteria and viruses and pathogens that you do not want on your things. They use this stuff in Florida when hurricanes come in with water damage. Anyways I hope this helps anyone going out there.
Maybe the reason the government doesn’t come in on this is because they know the danger it takes strategy to figure out how to go into such a danger zone and trying to get the people out the people are paranoid, and probably a good reason to leave their land because they’ll never see it again. The place will all be condemned and all the money spent to establish new homes for these people-will be a waste. It may be best they move on to another location. I know everybody’s going to throw rocks at me for saying this, but their Health is really jeopardized in this tragic mud situation.
Sereiosly folks, If you are under a BOIL water advisory, only drink/ cook with bottled water. The industrial/ chemical compounds will not dissipate. Our well was river flood-contaminated and took 6 months to test "Acceptable"
There are a multitude of reasons not to build or live too near a river or stream that is prone to flooding. One reason is that what you built is going to get flooded and probably ruined. But another reason is all the toxic materials that you had in you home or garage is going to get washed out into the flowing water, and it will contaminate whatever it settles into. Everything downstream of the flooded area is going to be contaminated.
Chit My Uncle lives in Asheville NC he actually took a shower, the water isn't safe, he has a serious cold at the moment. They can't drink the water, I wouldn't think he should bathe in it. But probably 1st shower since the storm hit, I would say. Some folks up there are c/o not being able to shower yet. Here we are going into November.
There was an EPA super-fund site where a cold war era chemical weapon factory once operated in Swannanoa, I kid you not. There are at least 50 hazardous waste sites in Buncombe County. I heard a rumor that half the cadaver dogs that ran the river banks have already died and the other half are very very sick.
The poisoning of this planet by humans has accelerated greatly in the past 75 years. The warming of the oceans, also due to human economic activity, has now provided the energy to drive storms like Helene. When any politician starts talking about this stuff, we MAY have a small chance to start turning it around. But it’s probably way too late.
Wow! Thanks so much for sharing that. I had never heard of it. I researched it after I read your comment. How tragic! I hope there are people doing something about it. I read that they’ve been in several violations. No surprise they’re not completely shut down. You know it’s negatively impacting those people’s he@lth
@@ONThree I have seen vids of ppl warning that clothing/boots are decaying within 48 hr of use. So much infrastructure in this country is old, outdated & vulnerable; bridges, power plants.. frightening to ponder that budgets & plans have not be implemented to prevent failures.. sad to say & not to minimize/compare the devestation of Helene.. Maui, train derailments, fires & more severe flooding in New Mexico, Canada, Austalia & Spain.. Neglect, mismanagement, irresponsible stewardship & intentional experimental projects in pursuit of gains with disregard for life are overwhelming to comprehend & prompt more prayers 🙏 May ppl recognize their need for God, humble themselves before Him; May God have mercy upon us & deliver us speedily from the hand of the wicked! Awesome to see the body of Christ working together, bearing one-another up, knit together in Agape love bringing glory to God by the witness of His Spirit at work! What a testimony to those that see!
@Onthree. There was a pvc company, nuclear storage area, cement company all destroyed. Check Bear Independent, permapasture farms and his podcast. Government should be testing but would not trust that
Supposedly an area near Chernobyl never had a radiation problem. A compost area. Not sure if that is true, but something to look in to. Certain bacteria maybe?
every single one of those flooded wrecked cars probably leaked more than that repair shop. as a mechanic saying that. think about all the stuff released by thousands of cars.
Residents that have tried sending water and soil samples to the state lab for testing have been blocked per government instructions. Independent labs in NC have reported government threats/ intimidation tactics around processing the samples as well.
The "known" lithium deposits are in an area that wasn't really affected. But, the quartz mine area in Spruce Pine was in the area that was hit particularly hard. 30" of rain, 110 mph wind, flooding, mudslides and multiple tornadoes. There is silica in the dust on everything. Silica is known to be toxic to the respiratory system. This mountain area is extremely rich in all sorts of minerals. And the quartz is particularly rare. It is the purest quartz in the US. Highly needed.
Again, I am no expert in this area! If anyone has professional experience in cleanup/remediation after man made/natural disasters then please share your knowledge in the comments. For those who know me, I’m usually not one to focus on safety gear. But if you’re helping with cleanup, please wear hats, gloves, masks-whatever you need to protect yourself. The recent hurricane brought a level of flooding that North Carolina’s infrastructure wasn’t built for, so there’s contamination. Stay safe-my wife is still dealing with a lingering cough and chest pain, and we’re hoping it’s just a passing virus, but it’s hard to tell.
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Top notch info. I hope people listen to this video in its entirety and understand the NEED to address these major concerns. I hope there’s experts that are generous like you and your group and willing to provide aid in those specific remediation efforts. All the bodies that are still buried could possibly create bacteria issues.
The sunflower seeds, hemp and Indian grass used for cleanup in contaminated areas was very interesting. Thanks
I said this weeks ago 🤦 I tried to warn you. Everyone attacked me! smh
(THE SEWER BACKED UP! It's filled with bio=hazard! It was H1V/aids sludge yall were digging in!)
Edit: PS: that sludge dried onto everything! The dust is toxic. The mold that grows will be EXTRA toxic. It only gets worse from here....
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I'm glad you're seeing this. This is why watching what big corporations do with their waste is very important, not in just disasters. Martin County, Ky is still working on contaminated water from coal mining.
I'm all for natural remediation of the land, especially having been apart of the Michigan PBB fire retardant scandal in 1973. It still shows in my blood work. They buried the cattle that ingested the beef. Michigan gov't buried its head in the sand.
There are 2 utube channels I have been listening to is Permapasture Farm and the Permapasture Consultant(father and son) who are working with a bioengineer to find exactly what the contaminats are do they can figureout what the contaminants are so they can figure out what bacteria and fungi can remediate this. There were things much worse than golf course contaminants. You need to listen to them if you want to help or remediate what's been done to your body already.
I know a Salvation Army pastor who was helping in NYC after 9/11. He sadly succumbed to multiple cancers, we suspect due to being at ground zero while the fires were still burning.
Thank you for highlighting the exposure to contaminants!
You’re welcome. I’m sorry to hear that.
Cancer killed my Brother. Throat cancer, he was in Iraq during the war when the wells were burning. He was in a green zone also and never came or left aside of helicopter. He was working for Haliburton.
@@monmixersorry to hear that. Several of my buddies that retired from the military told me about everything that they were exposed to. They said they’re keeping their faith and hoping for protection from God
It wasn’t the fires that were the problem - it was the ash. The twin towers had a lot of asbestos that was released when the burned material released it.
My dad worked in Manhattan for 911 clean up. He was in sight there when the planes hit the towers. He died of leukemia a decade later.
Perma Pasture Farms channel has some great advice as to how to help our land heal. Things we can plant that will absorb the toxins.
That’s fantastic. I need to check out the channel. You’re the second person to mention them.
Also Permapasture Consultant. They are working with an independent bioengineer to find out exactly what needs remediated . There's a whole group working together on this@@ONThree
This is something that environmental protection will be doing.
Local, state and federal agencies have been testing daily.
You have to be very careful about what you plant. It’s easy to plant invasive species that end up harming the environment and ecosystem.
They have also asked people to allow them to handle decontamination when they know larger amounts of chemicals are present. Unfortunately some have not listened and have probably done more harm than good.
Things like plastic will continue to put plastic chemicals into the soil for decades if they are not removed.
Industrial factories need to be built *only* where there is no realistic risk of flooding or other disasters that would spread the chemicals into the soil or water.
Yes, please be careful. My son developed cancer after helping clean up in TX with Hurricane Harvey. He’s now a two time survivor. Prayers for protection for all from all.
WNC resident here. Over the last month i have found broken car batteries, empty gallons of automotive clear coat, bunch of aerosol cans, ant killer drums, a syringe, and broken barrel of antifreeze.
Doctors offices, pharmacies, auto body shops, oil change businesses, lumber yards were all damaged or destroyed in this darn storm. Not to mention just regular garages and shops that were swept away.
Well, half of the stuff ended up in lake lure, the other half went to erwin. Not a good scenario for us.
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Many prayers for you all. I hope that extensive remediation takes place quickly. I understand cleanup is of more importance right now. Heading back next week to help clean and rebuild.
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@@ONThree ty for the selfless actions bub. Jesus loves you
NFS is located along the river in Erwin TN, and the old Chemtronics site was affected too.
Or the nuclear fuel processing plant, or the RDX explosive plant, for filling artillery shells, etc.you better test your land BEFORE YOU REBUILD!!
Thankfully the Navy Nuke Fuel plant was not damaged in this. Dodged a big mess had that happened.
The RDX manufacturing operation was not flooded or affected. This area did not have major flooding and no mudslides. Different river system. Just wind and rain.
Thanks for sharing with those of us who are praying for ALL who are living through this disaster!! Hugs from this Grandma!! 💕
You are making very valid points. My prayers continue for you and your family and all that are still affected by this "hurricane".
Remember the food chain. We didn't consider the food chain when we were using DDT for weed control. We almost lost our eagles to the use of DDT. The mice and birds eat seeds from the plants that are "not sensitive, or not targeted" by the defoliant, and were then consumed by hawks, eagles, and other animals. This resulted in weakening the egg shells, so that there were years with no hatchling. Consider the wildlife that would consume the high protein seeds of the hemp and sunflowers planted to filter toxins from the soil and water. Also, browsing animals grazing on the foliage of the plants along the sides of the waterways. Area hunters should be aware of the very real possibility of high amounts of toxins in game birds and game animals in the affected areas for years to come. I don't have any answers, just wanted to warn of this danger. Environmental biologists should be a part of the recovery process. The danger will be present for a long time, until nature has a chance to work it's magic.
Another consequence is the "feminisation" of males' genitals.
Peggy Bowe, biologists have also seen "feminisation" of males' genitals and studied the pollutants in their environment.
Things are going to be horrible from an environmental toxicity perspective in a serious way for a very long time
Think about it this way. Think about whatever chemicals were under everyone's sinks, or in their garages? Think about every car , every gas station, every fertilizer depo. Think about every shop, every small manufacturer, every factory, every train car, all of that stuff, multiplied by the hundreds of thousands, all of it got washed into the the water and then sunk into what was left of the topsoil.
Serious remediation needs to happen for any of that land to be good for growing food and for any ground water to be safe again
Superfund sites take decades for remediation. I would take pics, take samples of water, air, soil for professional analysis & get a lawyer asap.. Preserving your life by leaving is more important than staying with so many uncontained carcinogens! Ppl will clean, grass may grow but a new normalcy will create a false sense of security & safety meanwhile toxins can outgas from the ground, travel in the wind & will take years to overcome. This horrific tragedy grieves every decent person that is aware of it. 🙏🙏 for all that have suffered at the hands of the wicked in this generation! This world us not our home. Maranantha! Come Lord Jesus.
bull shit
All of that stuff flushed out from under everyone's sink or garage, or from that local business or factory when they flooded, went into the water and didnt just go away.
it soaked into the soil somewhere down stream. Wherever the water accumulated and soaked in, is now full of Lord knows what,, ,
Wonder what kind of funding will get squandered from that work. Probably most.
After assessing all the debris and chemical contamination left behind by Hurricane Helene, it’s clear that cleanup and remediation will take years. It made us wonder and research how similar disasters have been handled in the past. Learning that sunflowers, hemp, and other plants we consume are excellent at absorbing chemicals and heavy metals has given me pause-even when they’re labeled organic. I may be more cautious about buying organic sunflower seeds to consume and applying organic hemp salves.
What cleanup? So many disasters have occurred & we have absolutely no idea they happened. Could have been ancient nuclear disasters and such. No person knows ot just kept quiet.
I love that y'all are bringing awareness to these concerns. I wouldn't have thought about the soil and mud being contaminated. I'm so glad Christi mentioned it to me before i went. I encouraged everyone there to use masks and gloves based on your experiences. But probably the best part of this video was the last 5 or so seconds. 😂
With our powers combined….😂
All the cars and truck destroyed leaked oil and gas. I'm so sorry for all the people affected.
Me too
West Asheville near Riverside Park as you can imagine is but one place where there was silt, very fine & dusty, in the air. As I was driving to South Asheville to shop at the Whole Foods I made the mistake of rolling my car windows down along the way. I paid a high price as far as nasty symptoms for several days!
That must have been around October 26th.
An very tragic reality that all of us in WNC need to be aware of now. I love the south AVL WF. But, it is probably safer to shop the Tunnel Rd WF now. We are in Yancey Co. There is silica everywhere. And we know that is toxic, too. I grieve for all of creation. Be safe.
I am glad someone is talking about this you don't see it in the videos. People don't realize this storm wiped out towns so you have sewage trash gasoline propane you name it . Most wells aren't any good anymore they will have to be redrilled. The smells are horrible. Thanks forgetting this out there.
So sorry to hear.
It is being more than talked about. There is a group formed with an independent bioengineer testing, trying to find out the exact contaminants so others can find bacteria and fungi to mitigate this disaster. 2 utube channels working with this group is Permapasture Consultant and Permapasture Farm. Their channels posted this groups 1st meeting. Billy Bond of Permapasture Farm lives in the mitigation area
Someone needs to donate masks and other protective clothing for the volunteers.
It was a biolab outside of Savannah.
Also, bamboo can be used to remove toxins from soil and water.
Good to know
And hemp
I am from Erwin, TN and from my experience dealing with NFS, yes there was most likely some type of contamination coming out of that plant. We are in a situation here where, the plant, which is still in operation, was flooded on the backside. They also found 'supposedly', and I'm saying it like that for a reason, there was a semi found with 250 55gallon barrels were found buried in 10 feet of mud and debris. They say they're unused, training barrels, but that doesn't seem to be the case. The nuclear industry will try to cover it up!!!
Yes, they will. Stay safe and many prayers for you all. Thanks for sharing.
@ONThree God bless y'all for what you're doing. We only have each other in Appalachia! Stay safe❤️
Palestine, OH is a good example of contaminate clean up with respect to all the responsible parties, thier legally assigned roles and limitations, etc...
Its good to see your subs growing. Your hands on, honest, practical , sensible approach to every vid I have ever watched over the years should have had you at 500k subs! Minimum! Keep up the strong work brother!
I appreciate that!
As a new sub to this channel I've been letting others elsewhere know about it.
@J.Benson Ive watched jason for a few years now. He always has honest practical advice. His earlier vids with Allen Kay are some of the best. These two are hilarious and practical!
@@jwgbmp40 TY. Will look it up.
@@J.Bensonthanks!
Round Up is the brand name for a reformulation of Agent Orange. You can't filter it out.
Round Up is also what Monsanto puts on our wheat & corn to dry it before processing. 😐
You’re very right! My wife started telling people about that 15 plus years ago. It’s mind boggling what our g0v has allowed. Not really surprised anymore after we went down the deep dark rabbit hole 15 years ago
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Round Up is not Agent Orange. Round Up is glyphosate that kills weeds but does not kill GMO crops produced by Monsanto. It is also used to dry (kill) wheat prior to harvest in order to increase yield. Glyphosate has a half-life of up to 97 days in fields or up to 191 days in water. It does not inhibit growth of subsequent crops.
Agent Orange was an herbicide that killed all vegetation and inhibited future plant growth. Agent Orange could break down quickly on dry surfaces but may have had a half-life of more than a hundred years in water. The half-life in humans could have been 7-11 years. One of the two herbicides in Agent Orange was contaminated with dioxin and that caused a lot of health problems. It was notoriously used in Vietnam but was also used to inhibit vegetation around roads and railroad tracks. The US banned Agent Orange in 1971 and all stocks were destroyed by 1978.
@@ONThreeour gov wants us drad
Round Up has a completely different composition to “Agent Orange”.
Round Up is Glyphosate.
Agent Orange was a mixture of 2,4,5-T and 2,4-D but its contamination with dioxin due to extremely sloppy manufacturing added to its toxicity.
Glyphosate is a phosphorus based chemical (and has no chlorine or benzene rings in the final product).
2,4,5-T and 2,4-D are chlorinated benzene based (and have no phosphorus).
Completely different chemicals.
Glyphosate has a half life persistence in the environment depending on temperature between two days (at 60F) and three months (in freezing conditions).
What we call pill bugs also remove heavy metals from the soil
Please explain
The soil can be amended. Farmers know how to restore the soil
As a former military veteran and one that works in Environmental Health for veterans due to Military Environmental Exposures the lasting effects from breathing in chemicals, sewerage and other toxic materials can really damage lungs, skin and heart.
Batteries and Battery Acids from car repair shops and Vehicles that were tossed into the waters and squished
Sulphuric acid is so reactive that it is essentially just “gone” making gypsum as soon as it finds some calcium carbonate (limestone).
The lead and lead sulphate in the batteries is a different question and should be salvaged as soon as possible to prevent long term issues. (Lithium is way less toxic).
I am just south of that Nuc Power Plant. Have not heard one word about any contamination from flooding in our local media. They apparently took 2 coal-fired units offline to protect it during storms. Looks like another storm has been brewing for a few weeks now and may be set to repeat in exact same direction in Gulf as the last 2 storms. 🙏🏻 for everyone!
Many prayers. Several of those places do have several layers of protection.
Heard 4 of 10 rescue dogs died; the other 6 are sick... See truthstream media vids.. idk the area but pt 3 mentions a barrel & conflicting info on safety-
So they do say it is unlivable there, and that is when they can come and secretly mine. They won't have to buy the land.
I would like to add as a mediation to this, and make no mistake I agree that it is a big problem, that I witnessed the water. In my front yard. It looked like the North Atlantic. I know. I am a Navy veteran who has seen the anger of the North Atlantic. A stream normally four inches of babbling water over rocks was a twenty-foot-deep Class VI rapids or greater torrent, heading downhill at essentially 32 feet per second per second. It was endless water in free fall, roaring like a freight train or tornado. It formed maelstroms as the earth gave way. Not whirlpools, maelstroms. Niagra if you cannot believe the North Atlantic. The point is that this was not a flood of rising water. It was running water. It washed away trains. And the cross ties and roadbed they rested on. Not derailed, washed away. When it finally receded, there was nothing left but the rocks and gaping holes. Nothing good left, and nothing bad left either. Nature overwhelmed all the good in us. And it will overwhelm the bad too. All that bad stuff is somewhere of course. But it is not hiding under every rock. Certainly not where I am just east of Black Mountain.
"I remember seeing a fence with dead horses all piled up against it twenty feet deep. There must have been a hundred. The railroad was sticking straight up into the air like a tower." (My great aunt Jemima. That's right... I actually had an Aunt Jemima. She was recalling the 1916 flood in the same area. I didn't really believe her then. Just an old woman exaggerating. I believe her now.
Niagara Falls is a great reference. Here in Greene County TN we had twice the waterflow of Niagara Falls cascading over top of the Nolichucky River dam at peak flow. All flood stage records were shattered with this storm. How our dam held through all this is a miracle. Truly a staggering event.
Thanks for bringing awareness to a biger problem and don’t for get about the fish in the river I hope the fish man or aware and not eat anything that comes out of the river ✌️👍🤙
Yes. My buddies and I were taking about that as well.
I watched a young boy fishing there the other day n it hit me the fish would be contaminated!
@@hossieb4874 Yes Everything is contamination it is so sad to see all the information that’s coming out of North Carolina 🙏🏼❤️NC
I really like u guys! I’m n Mt. Airy. Ty so much for helping all our neighbors n the mountains. Love the water ur sitting by :))
Mr Airy here too! Have been glad to see so many coming together to help our western neighbors.
Also nuclear waste from nuclear recycle plants. 😮
Imagine all those water bottles that were donated…I hope there’s trash management going on.
That has been an issue in all the areas that we’ve been to. Some landfills have opened
@@ONThreeBut landfills take a lot of time to build. At least up here they do. I live in a community with several landfills, some old, some in use, some being built. Unless they are not being claylined and other processes.
Solid, useful facts for the next disaster assist. Thanks.
You’re welcome
Every building holds endless chemicals . In a fire it burns into our air and in a flood it turns to chemmy stew. Let alone the businesses and industry supply.
Bummer
The first army reactor had a similar fate. . . Read, The Radioactive Boyscot. . . If it can happen it will, these cyclones travel inland a couple of times every hundred years. . . Lady slippers, Indian pipes and rainbow trout all require good clean water. . . And other living things to live
All kinds of gas, propane, used oil, transmission/ hydraulic fluid from all of the vehicles. Very sad a nd helluva clean up. Hard to clean up anything when you lost it all, including vehicles.
That's not sand on that "golf course". It's silt from the floodwaters and pretty sure it's toxic. Those kids shouldn't be playing there.
I was wonderingabout debris burning too. I realize people want to jump in and fix things quickly without red tape or "government interference" slowing them down, but how do locals weigh the risk/benefit decision. If the people burning the debris don't even live in NC how concerned are they about the chemicals being put into the ir and as spread to surrounding hillsides? What are the short- and long-term effects to children, elderly, farm animals, dairy products, chickens/eggs? Does burning lift contaminants through the air to join with headwaters that may be used for drinking and agriculture?
Vinyl chloride is a bad chemical used to make PVC pipe
The PVC pipe factory along the river in Asheville now looks like a giant game of pick-up-sticks gone terribly wrong. PVC pipes are everywhere in that section of the river.
The water in the river was never clean in the first place. Raw sewage was known to be piped in the river.
I love this region. But, I find it appalling the lack of concern about the waterways health.
I lived in rural Buncombe County. A neighborhood upstream of us was dumping raw sewage in the creek. We had to report them multiple times for it to stop. Our neighbors across the creek sprayed a toxic brew along the creek and throughout their property. They are "landscapers" who spray under power lines. There toxic cocktail components were stored next to the creek. No entity, at any level, cared to do anything about their toxicity.
There are multiple stories such as these.
No doubt, we will be told everything is fine, nothing to be concerned about.
Except there will be zero vinyl chloride in a PVC pipe plant. Polyvinyl chloride is so tightly polymerised that it will be essentially inert.
Vinyl chloride is a GAS.
It’s like worrying about the Vinyl Cyanide used to make acrylic paints - it’s not free in the finished consumer product.
LIGHT BULBS the GASES in them were already dangerous to dispose of prior to any storms
Wrong. Incandescent globes are full of inert argon or nitrogen.
Fluorescent lights are problematic because of the mercury inside them (which is why LED lamps are SO much better).
Living in Watauga county, we have farms up above us, and small shops, during the flooding, it washed down tanks of heating oil, fuel tanks, paint, solvents and all kinds of junk as people’s homes and sheds flooded. The area was also known for mining hundreds of years ago. Lots of cramp in the soil now. We are only using bottled water since. Asheville was known for having a protected reservoir, all the junk from the surrounding mountains has washed down in it. The TN area has a few munition factories, have knowledge of their location or flooding.
I have lived close to Ohio River all of my life. We are told to wait a few months before planting after flooding and I have seen and lived through some pretty serious ones here on the upper Ohio. It's much more narrow valley when you start getting 100 miles or so above Cincinnati This is what we were always told to do. I just google searched and pretty much said the same : Flood waters from the Ohio River can contaminate soil with chemicals and biological contaminants that can be harmful to human health:
Soil pathogens and parasites
Floodwater-saturated soil can contain human pathogens and parasites.
Contaminated plants and soil
People can be at risk if they touch contaminated plants and soil, eat produce from contaminated plants, or breathe in dust from contaminated soil.
Water-borne bacteria and viruses
High water can overwhelm sewer and waste management systems, which can spread bacteria and diarrhea-causing diseases.
Standing water
Standing water can create a breeding ground for microorganisms and biting insects.
Toxic sites
The Ohio River Valley has many toxic sites, including the Peters Cartridge Factory in Kings Mills, Ohio, and the North 25th Street Glass and Zinc site in Clarksburg, West Virginia.
To minimize the risk of re-exposure to contaminated soil, you should not replant your garden for 2-3 months after a flood.
To rehabilitate soil that has lost its structure and aeration, you can break up the clay bonds and reintroduce air into the soil. I think winter wil take care of the issue for the most part. If you have a weak immune system may want to consider testing for sure.
I wonder if the plants chemically alter those toxins to make them neutral rather than just absorb and transfer them up the food chain.
So where will all the toxic debris be disposed at? A landfill?
Have no clue
They are trying to find what the contaminants are. That can then begin to find what bacteria and fungi can eat it
The nuclear plant is south of Cedar Key at Crystal River. We were looking at real estate in the area until we learned about thr issue that caused the plant to be shut down.
The destruction is incomprehensible. Was the flooding in a wide river valley or just along the flooded river(s)?
The rivers and small creeks. It was insane to see the destruction caused by small streams. It rained for so long that a lot of water ran down into the smaller streams creating these monstrous body of waters with powerful currents that led to severe flooding.
Tiny streams you could easily jump over became raging rivers. There are streams, creeks and rivers running all over these mountains. The flooding was truly biblical. And, there were massive mudslides, tornadoes to add to the destruction.
A couple Marines were at our Distribution site. They stated that they bombed places that looked better than here. It is that catastrophic.
THANKS Jason
You’re welcome
I believe Marshall is still under a boil water advisary at tge beginning of Nov '24. They are offering PPE to volunteers who work in town.
So is all of buncombe county.
Did you all mention anything about mold ? I live close to the Swannanoa River near Bee Tree, Warren Wilson and have mold... Had to have a wall cut out and now seeing more... Thank you so much for your video. I feel so bad for wildlife, drinking out of the rivers.
HAZMAT training 101: First lesson, don't drink/touch the water, don't eat/touch the soil. Its counterintuitive to fear the land you live in.
If the soil and water are contaminated for the long-term future, how would anyone be able to live in the region safely? Will there be a massive abandonment of this region?
Why won't the news or anybody tell us how many has died I know it's over 200 people because my husband and I have been there but why aren't they telling the truth
Good question.
There is so much deception in reporting going on here. The locals that are awake are aware of it. The death toll is definitely higher. The missing persons number is higher, too. The numbers are not being accurately reported. Maybe it's the new math?!
@@ONThree see if you can find out please
Activated charcoal, bio char and bone char can help decontaminate the soil......
Thanks for sharing. Never heard of bone char in cleanup.
@@ONThreebone char would work the same way as bio char
You did a good job of pointing out remediation and *especially the follow-thru of remediation, such as what is done with the collector plants after they've taken up the toxins. I want to point out that the assumption that water in the higher elevations of the mountains ought to be safer from the pollutants is missing a very important aspect of how wind and rain cycle airborne particulates right to those places. The particles rise higher and higher during the daytime with human activities and heat. Then they descend all the way down to the land surface (mostly) during the still and cool of the night. The sides of mountains act as scrapers and collectors of the air and all those airborne particulates, which are carried over by wind patterns and weather and are deposited in large portions by rain that is also squeezed out heavier on one slope than another. Years of radiation testing in past decades caused particularly large deposits of fallout on the nearest slopes that receive more wind and rain impacts, even though they were far from the testing sites. Even more impacted were the lowest marshy flats and shorelines of the outflows of waterways that particulates continued to flow down and settle out over many years. But don't forget that cycle of wind and precipitation that carries the particulates into the wall of the mountains and foothills. Even a recent study of PFOS chemicals showed a very unanticipated high amount of those "forever chemicals" in the highest springs nestled under granite outcrops on the highest peaks. That's because of the action of wind and rain on airborne particulates. So I'm saying, don't assume it should be less in the higher elevations. Think AIR routes, not just ground routes. Thank you for putting out this kind of very helpful and important information.
Take multiple test samples from multiple depths at each test point on your property. Take samples from different areas of your property. Send those samples to the free state lab and then send another identical sample to a private laboratory west of the Mississippi river to ensure the state isn’t withholding any information. What the state lab will do is say whether it’s ok to live on not give you the actual results of the PPM of the contaminants in the soil. I was on the ground for 2 weeks and it’s bad and the government response is geared towards not causing a panic rather than preservation of life.
Unfortunately everything still is covered in dust. Over a month of day in, day out cleanup and we still trying to dig out, clean up and rebuild.
But yes rashes and respiratory issues Poplar area at least.
Great video again!!! Thank you
I think people are starting to wear more protective gear now during cleanup. Prayers for all. Heading to Pensacola tomorrow.
Anything released during the flood was probably diluted enough to be a non-issue. (Hopefully). The bigger problem is leaking containers, fuel tanks, etc., that continue to leak after the flood waters subsided.
There were a group of 10 cadaver dogs brought in. 4 died the others are sick
People whine and complain about epa Regs, zoning laws, and supposed govn overreach. Then they complain about pollution. We need the EPA, WE NEED ZONING REGS. They protect us. We are the government. Get educated get involved
EPA was made aware of multiple issues prior to this catastrophic event. Raw sewage has been dumped into the French Broad River and it's tributaries for a long time.
The papermill dumped toxins in the waterway.
Those are just a couple issues they turned a blind eye to.
They didn't care then, I don't have faith that they care now.
EPA rules were not being followed. The government was lying to the people in these areas. They want the people gone so they can mine the lithium and other things needed for "green" energy. That cut the water to potato farmers in Idaho for the same reason.
We are a well established industrial society. Flood water is immediately toxic. Be safe out there.
This is on top of DECADES OF COAL MINING POLLUTION in these same areas!!
Please worry about the big picture human souls.
I've noticed other communities got flooded. Afterward, they request and receive massive amounts of money, which gets eaten up by planning and engineering costs. Basically, they do a small project once in a while but get massive funding for decades.
What do we do with a EV that burns uncontrollably ,it takes 4 fire truck s to put these fires out !!
Home owners on wells need to have the water tested regular, this storm Will have effects for who knows how long! More people like you need to be putting out the message!!!!
Where are the EPA people & the environmental fanatics? Hmm?
They were deployed before the storm hit, but the storm hit a multi-state area and I imagine they're addressing the water purification systems for more densely populated areas while roads are being rebuilt next to rivers, creeks, culverts and debris slides. They work in tandem with state and local health departments, DNR and waste management. Transparency would be nice, but they're terrible at PR and they don't draw news reporters because they're not the most exciting story compared to heroic volunteers and helicopters.
Melting boots around the Toe river.
So sad because there will be long term effects for humans, animals, wildlife, flora, and anything you touch. It’s a toxic environment now and will it ever really be habitable.
Great as always thanks for sharing see ya on the next one
I'm worried about all the aluminum and other chemicals they're dumping into the reservoir to reduce the turbidity to restore water to Asheville. What kind of health problems will all that cause down the road? I'll just continue to filter all my water with my Berkey I guess.
Your concern is real.
My husband is a functional medicine practitioner.
We have found that Zero water filters does a better job in removing toxins.
For whole house filter, the Aquasana filtration system is the best. We had one when we lived in Buncombe County.
Aluminium Chloride is added in most drinking water treatment systems. It’s really good at binding silt into sediment so it can be filtered out. Not adding too much is the key.
@@allangibson8494 it doesn't get filtered, it causes the silt to settle so they can start the filtering process. If they filter the water now with all the silt free floating it'll ruin the filters. They've even said as much.
@ The same chemical is added to the front end of water treatment plants. The first stage sand filters need this to take the fine silt out and then are periodically back flushed to the sewer to remove the agglomerations. More silt requires more frequent back flushing. If it is on the bottom of the dam you don’t need to worry (at least until the next flood).
Sand filters are really useful if you harvest your own water (and really cheap).
If only we could cut back on using these things in the first place! We'd have fewer destructive weather events.
Parts of the world have to deal with this on a regular basis and the Western world is largely to blame. It is very sad.
I saw pictures of barrels of oil and petroleum going down the water.
Yea. Pretty sad to see what was floating down the rivers and creeks
If your land has been contaminated, you need to move. It will take longer than your life span to clear it up.
I know that’s terrible but let’s be realistic.
These are strong people that have cared for the land for hundreds of years across many successive lifetimes. It's a legacy of love and hope that inspires me beyond measure.
It looked like you were coming around the corner near River Ridge Mall with that colorful striped car wash building, across from the golf course there?? In Asheville on Swananoa River Road, near the 24-hour Walmart on Bleachery Boulevard - which in itself has been a brownfield bc of the bleacher back in the day 😢
Businesses large and small should provide lists and amounts of chemicals that were washed away. Put the locations on maps, with colors denoting the amounts, and also the buoyancy. Some things will sink, and some will float. Knowing such things can help calculate and map the spread of contaminates. This data can be cross-referenced with actual testing results, to get an idea if accurate predictions are possible to map over large areas. etc
And the powdered PVC
PVC powder is inert (unless burned). With an SG of 1.4 it will rapidly sink into the bottom of lakes and join all the other plastic there (except closed containers and polyethylene and polypropylene that float).
Thanks for the update
PVC is essentially inert in both powder and finished product form.
It is problematic if it is burned however. Polyethylene and polypropylene are similar.
The pigments can be problematic (particularly the carbon black) (which is why most finished product manufacturers prefer to use plastic encapsulated pigments).
The MONOMERS are a different question but there is a complete disconnect between the polymer production and final product production except for the glass reinforced plastics industry (where you have the catalyst and monomers stored in the final production locations).
Much love and respect thanks for sharing ❤❤❤
Very interesting information!! Thank you for informing us on this!!! ♥️🥰🤗🤗🤗🤗
You are so welcome
Building immunities is one thing. Developing cancer is another beast entirely. Stay protected and safe.
Agreed!
My only suggestion is, if you use plants to draw the pollution out of the ground, these plants need to be somehow protected from being eaten by wildlife.
I Imagine many of these Deep Country places along the river used Septic Tanks and the Sewage they were holding was Washed away or their Contents Belched Out right into the Flood water...
Thank you for the update!!
You’re welcome
Thank you for doing i volunteer for 47 years and my wife also i wish i could go now my car need help
For anyone volunteering in these areas, always bring you a good p100 mask. 3M specifically, would prefer full face mask. Not that crap from harbor freight. They do not work. I have tested these out with an old freezer that stopped working and had rotting food inside. The harbor freight allowed the odors in. The 3M was perfectly sealed. Now with that being said, I am telling people to do this due to the toxic mold that is 100% growing in these water damaged places. Even if you think it will be a few seconds. Put the mask on. There are definitely mycotoxins and spores you do not want to breathe in. Aspergillis, t2), Aflatoxins, Fusarium and more. If you have been exposed, you need to be tested for mycotoxins. If you have mycotoxins then you have an infection or infections. Symptoms will be fatigue, bloody nose, spaciness and dizziness, breathing issues, headaches, brain fog, tremors, hair loss, light intolerance and more. It will also likely hit the immune system. Mycotoxin tests include my myco lab, real time labs, prairie labs. You need an integrative or functional dr to test for these things, and if positive you need antifungals and binders to get this crap out the body. I know that is a lot to take in but you do not want these to cause you harm. Also, you need something like Fiberlock cleaner specifically shockwave and a pump sprayer, as well as gloves and eye protection. You do not want this on you. I would be using this everywhere that had damage, that is salvageable. This stuff cleans mold, but also bacteria and viruses and pathogens that you do not want on your things. They use this stuff in Florida when hurricanes come in with water damage. Anyways I hope this helps anyone going out there.
Maybe the reason the government doesn’t come in on this is because they know the danger
it takes strategy to figure out how to go into such a danger zone and trying to get the people out
the people are paranoid, and probably a good reason to leave their land because they’ll never see it again. The place will all be condemned and all the money spent to establish new homes for these people-will be a waste. It may be best they move on to another location. I know everybody’s going to throw rocks at me for saying this, but their Health is really jeopardized in this tragic mud situation.
Sereiosly folks, If you are under a BOIL water advisory, only drink/ cook with bottled water. The industrial/ chemical compounds will not dissipate. Our well was river flood-contaminated and took 6 months to test "Acceptable"
There are a multitude of reasons not to build or live too near a river or stream that is prone to flooding. One reason is that what you built is going to get flooded and probably ruined. But another reason is all the toxic materials that you had in you home or garage is going to get washed out into the flowing water, and it will contaminate whatever it settles into. Everything downstream of the flooded area is going to be contaminated.
These are things that I had not even thought about.
Detergent afterwards
Chit My Uncle lives in Asheville NC he actually took a shower, the water isn't safe, he has a serious cold at the moment. They can't drink the water, I wouldn't think he should bathe in it. But probably 1st shower since the storm hit, I would say. Some folks up there are c/o not being able to shower yet. Here we are going into November.
That is why FEMA was not helping!
FEMA is. The idiots refusing their help aren’t.
FEMA should cover well testing
There was an EPA super-fund site where a cold war era chemical weapon factory once operated in Swannanoa, I kid you not. There are at least 50 hazardous waste sites in Buncombe County. I heard a rumor that half the cadaver dogs that ran the river banks have already died and the other half are very very sick.
The poisoning of this planet by humans has accelerated greatly in the past 75 years. The warming of the oceans, also due to human economic activity, has now provided the energy to drive storms like Helene. When any politician starts talking about this stuff, we MAY have a small chance to start turning it around. But it’s probably way too late.
And what about the Nolichucky? Nuclear waste
Truthstream media did a series including that in pt3
Wow! Thanks so much for sharing that. I had never heard of it. I researched it after I read your comment. How tragic! I hope there are people doing something about it. I read that they’ve been in several violations. No surprise they’re not completely shut down. You know it’s negatively impacting those people’s he@lth
@@ONThree I have seen vids of ppl warning that clothing/boots are decaying within 48 hr of use. So much infrastructure in this country is old, outdated & vulnerable; bridges, power plants.. frightening to ponder that budgets & plans have not be implemented to prevent failures.. sad to say & not to minimize/compare the devestation of Helene.. Maui, train derailments, fires & more severe flooding in New Mexico, Canada, Austalia & Spain.. Neglect, mismanagement, irresponsible stewardship & intentional experimental projects in pursuit of gains with disregard for life are overwhelming to comprehend & prompt more prayers 🙏 May ppl recognize their need for God, humble themselves before Him; May God have mercy upon us & deliver us speedily from the hand of the wicked! Awesome to see the body of Christ working together, bearing one-another up, knit together in Agape love bringing glory to God by the witness of His Spirit at work! What a testimony to those that see!
@Onthree. There was a pvc company, nuclear storage area, cement company all destroyed. Check Bear Independent, permapasture farms and his podcast. Government should be testing but would not trust that
Planting hemp is a great way to remediate the soil.
Thanks for u help for citizens of area
Supposedly an area near Chernobyl never had a radiation problem. A compost area. Not sure if that is true, but something to look in to. Certain bacteria maybe?
Sounds like you listened to Billy and William Bond
@@maryjane-vx4dd I was watching Bear Independent about the hurricane. Billy was on there. That is why I wasn’t sure it was true or not.
every single one of those flooded wrecked cars probably leaked more than that repair shop. as a mechanic saying that. think about all the stuff released by thousands of cars.
The EPA and industry should be checking the contaminated soil and water for hazardous materials!!!
Residents that have tried sending water and soil samples to the state lab for testing have been blocked per government instructions. Independent labs in NC have reported government threats/ intimidation tactics around processing the samples as well.
What about the lithium deposits???
Good question that I don’t have an answer for
The "known" lithium deposits are in an area that wasn't really affected.
But, the quartz mine area in Spruce Pine was in the area that was hit particularly hard. 30" of rain, 110 mph wind, flooding, mudslides and multiple tornadoes.
There is silica in the dust on everything. Silica is known to be toxic to the respiratory system.
This mountain area is extremely rich in all sorts of minerals. And the quartz is particularly rare. It is the purest quartz in the US. Highly needed.