Because he doesn't look at issues simplistically. He understands the complexity of how diet interacts with genetics, allergies, auto-immune diseases, etc, and when he doesn't know something he says he doesn't know.
I would like to have heard, at about minute 44:00, Dr. Cywes tell what he does when these concerning blood levels go up that may show damage. The topic got changed. Thanks for the amazingly useful content. I may have heard the answer moving forward, more protein and frequent meals.
Sorry for the long comment. Carnivores dealing with loose stools may require temporary Vitamin C supplementation. Elliot Overton, a pro-carnivore nutritionist in England, explains that some of his clients require Vita C along with other temporary high dose nutrients in some of his videos to overcome damages from SAD. Would a podcast with Elliot be in your channel's future? Elliot's priority is his clients using safe effective methods, supplements included. I agree with him that there is just way too much dogma and nuance against using supplements in the carnivore and keto communities. Micronutrients are only assumed. We only get in what our food eats and what we can absorb. Everyone's requirements are different for both macros and micros. When recovery and health are priority, temporary use of supplements can only be beneficial. But it seems to be frowned upon by those who are anti-supplements unfortunately (hurting more than helping with recovery imo). This is debatable but we cannot get everything we need through the diet, especially minrerals in the amounts needed to address nutritional deficiency conditions and/or for daily activity level requirements. Good examples are those with alcohol abuse, have had bariatric surgery, ate a lot of white rice, history of anorexia/bulemia. These people require B vitamins supplementation (Beriberi), especially high dose B1. Water soluble vitamins constantly fluctuate with some in the tissue, therefore it's almost impossible to test those levels. Prescription & OTC drugs and caffeine also deplete nutrients too that nobody ever talks about. I am no longer 100% carnivore due to me finding that I wasn't getting adequate magnesium and trace minerals. I was nose to tail, organ meats and bone broth included. Dr Paul Saladino ran into this same problem too actually with bad muscle cramps. I now include organic lettuce and daily magnesium & plant trace minerals which I was lacking when I was 100% carnivore. Cleared up my muscle cramps and occasional low energy. I also occasionally supplement with high dose Vita C ascorbic acid powder as an anti-histamine (also beneficial for skin plasticity and aging). For me personally, it should help keep my immune strong against respiratory and other infections. Lots of nutrition literature on therapeutic use and benefits of Vita C by Andrew Saul, Thomas Levy, Joseph Mercola, Linus Pauling etc. Do we get enough Vita C on an animal base diet to avoid a deficiency? Yes. But is it optimal for other requirements? Probably no. Vita C is required for collagen synthesis and especially in higher amounts for immune system when mounting an attack on pathogens. Some will argue that supplementation is not normal nor is it ancestrally appropriate. But neither is driving a car as a means for transportation and yet we all do it.
While I find your post interesting I also wonder about those who have been long term carnivores like Kelly Hogan, as well as several of her other carnivore friends, who doesn't consume Liver and not as much salt, doesn't seem to be having any of the issues you experienced. Perhaps this is more of an individual metabolism issue? As mentioned in the topic is might be more related to utilization vs intake that is more of an issue. I've seen/heard it discussed multiple times that the body needs less vitamin C if carnivore. But again this might be such an individual metabolic issue it's hard for it to be a one size fits all approach.
@@my-yt-inputs2580 You are absolutely right. There is no 1 size fits all. Everyone's needs, metabolic state, even genetic predispositions are different from person to person. The demonization of using supplements is exactly that, this is my main disagreement. By saying that supplements are not necessary is a blanket statement claiming that everyone who embarks on carnivore do not need them. How do we know the state of a person's digestive system is? Can they digest the foods? Do they have enough enzymes and bile acid? Do they have gut dysmotility? The benefit of supplements is that we don't require optimal digestion to absorb most of the nutrients. In certain instances an individual may need more of a particular nutrient than others. I am pro-carnivore actually. 80-90% of my foods are animal foods. But we can't deny that other diets also cannot promote health. To what extent that's up for debate. I hear all of the time that there is no such thing as essential carbohydrates. While this is absolutely true, one can also make the same argument that there is no such thing as essential saturated fats and cholesterol. This is also true. Our body makes these as needed from other substrates. We eat foods for both calories and their micronutrients. It's impossible to know exactly what comes in the foods, everything is only assumed based on nutrition facts done at one point on samples. Every cut of meat is different. Every animal is different. Every piece of plant is different. Soils are different. Humans evolved to be opportunistic eaters, meaning that we at everything and anything. Whatever we could hunt, kill, catch, trap, find, grow. This includes consuming plants in times of famine and in geographic regions where animals are scarce. While 99% of plants are not safe, some are and have beneficial nutrients. There are many levels to health. There are the diseased state, steady state, and the optimal state. Individually each state is different for everyone. Diet is only 30-40% of the equation anyhow. There are also lifestyle, stress, sleep, sun, activity levels, as well as times of not eating.
Carnivores in nature eat digested plants, which are essentially fermented plants. A carnivore isn't necessarily 100% animal meat, fats, milk, eggs. I believe we all need at least 5% fermented plants in our diet, but we have to be careful in what plants we choose to eat.
Thank you for this. I too find Thorne buffered C helps. At 70, my worst issue is my head and back is overheating at night. I am sure it's not post menopause. Trying Aloe Vera, slippery elm and marshmallow roots to heal my gut as I suspect that's the key. Sure would be good if this topic was discussed. I've never heard anyone speak on this.
Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant !!!!!👏👏👏👏👏❤️❤️wow I have thoroughly enjoyed your interviews with Dr Cywes🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦what a treat ☺️He’s a brilliant man and you’ve asked all the right questions Judy✨thank you for this, much appreciated 🙏
The level of detail from Dr Cywes was very welcomed. Confirmed some vague theories I had developed over my time as carnivore. Thank you both very much.
Just beginning carnivore diet to improve already decent health. At 70 noticing a decline in my skin health and nothing I have done helps it to be more hydrated. I do not need to lose weight so have been confused as to how to eat enough to maintain health and how to navigate fat protein combination. I will listen to this several times. There is so much here that is useful. Thank you both for this presentation!
the first study of the carnivore diet was recently published by harvard university with great results from the test subjects. there were only a little over 2000 participants involved, as only a certain amount of money was available, but 95% of the people were able to throw their medication into the bin after a few months. all blood values reached the normal range
Hey Judy. Thanks for this video. With Dr Robert's explanation around insulin, cholesterol and ketones process (10mins onwards), I kind of able to relate to my situation of why I shouldn't do any fasting until my body heals.
Even though I haven't drank milk in 2 years, when I did it was lactaid milk due to being lactose intolerant. Since I've been a carnivore I indulge in cheese at times and it no longer bothers me. I used to take lactaid with cheese but haven't had it in a long time. I think due to this diet change I'm no longer lactose intolerant.😊
I drink raw bile from the animals I butcher as a digestive stimulus. I’ve been eating a raw meat based diet for 11 years, and have more first person experience regarding the carnivore diet than most people. Would be open to speaking with Judy if she is open to a discussion on the raw and wild side!
I am pro-raw animal foods too. In my culture we hunt for or slaughter our own animals for food too. Some parts of a cow, such as the blood, bile, joints we do sometimes eat raw immediately. But that I think that is where the issue is. Butchered weeks or months ago and frozen is not the same as freshly killed and butchered. The access to freshly butchered animal meat is near impossible for most people who do want to eat raw, myself included now where I live.
I keep a meat locker where I can dry age whole sheep for up to a month or so. I believe raw meat and naturally occurring bacteria are healthy. I eat all the glands and organs raw. All these medical talks can be interesting and somewhat informative, especially for people starting out, but after the first few years I began to operate primarily from intuition and instinct. There is an organic holistic synergy to my approach that is beyond the scope of the keepers of the scientific worldview to fathom. I found the minutia of lab generated data was mostly useless during my own quest for health.
@@SuperSabortooth I agree with you actually. Those who can stomach it raw, myself included, we just don't have a way to hunt, raise, butcher, and properly store fresh animal meat. I live in Los Angeles where it's impossible to do. I am lucky to even have found local ranchers about 2 hours drive away for me to get frozen grass fed grass finished ruminant meat, local pasture raised eggs, and raw milk. Before coming to America, mt family lived in the jungle mountains of Laos so supermarkets, refrigeration, electricity, running water didn't exist.
@@JYAN2852 Where there is a will there is a way. There are ways to preserve meat raw without refrigeration, by making air dried jerky. Although fats are best raw, they can be rendered at low temperature and eaten with the dried meat to make a complete food. I guess I’m a unique case, having my own meat locker to keep a fresh animal every month. It’s hard work and sacrifice to live this way , but the rewards are worth it.
35:35 "I think that's one of the beautiful things about carnivore - it should be supplement free" - Dr. Robert Cywes. Exactly! No plastic. No way to get yourself poisoned with processed stuff. Make everything from fresh meat. I've learned to can mean, dry meat, make great meat+water+salt soups, even ferment liver. Lovely way to live without every visiting a supermarket. Direct from the farm and can run a home on super low energy usage and very few meals per day, if any... Especially in the summer right now, hardly eat anything...
I am the opposite. I had loose stools for many many years and now that I’ve been on the carnivore diet for two months I’m finally normalized. I haven’t known what a real bm was for over 20 years. My gallbladder was out in 91 so I have spent the majority of my life without one. I haven’t had any issues really other than that. And I finally feel like I don’t have to run to the bathroom all the time or know where a bathroom is when I’m out and about
While I respect and follow Dr Cywes I have to respectfully disagree on the protein muscles breakdown for causing elevated fasting glucose. No matter a person's BMI is or how lean we are, humans will always have around 10% bodyfat. I had this same problem when I was 100% carnivore. Tommy Wood and Saladino explained in their posdcasts that this is caused by physiological insulin resistance for some ppl when the muscles intentionally resist glucose. This supposedly is the result of moving too far in one direction for too long. After triglycerides are broken down as energy, the triglyceride glycerin backbone, 3 of them, get converted into glucose via gluconeogenesis. (Will and Maria Emmermich explain macros energy metabolism really well in their protein sparing modified fast lectures.) But anyhow once I began to cycle in and out of ketosis, the elevated markers that Dr Cywes talked about in his patients' labs all normalized for me. People on keto or carnivore can generally tolerate the sun UV skin damage probably more due to decreased Omega6 intake. This was verified by Tucker Goodrich in his podcasts through his N=1 anecdote. High intake of Omega6 makes people's skin more susceptible to sun UV damage and oxidation.
I was not convinced either by the breaking down of our own muscles for sugar explanation. A fat adapted person would use preferentially dietary fats or ketones for fuel and the few cells than need glucose specifically would use gluconeogenesis from dietary fats/proteins or glucose/fat stores. The body is also more efficient at utilizing carbs when on keto or zc so you don't need as much. Also, growth hormone is promoted by fasting, which increases lean body mass, and decreases at meal times (which seems counter to the idea of breaking down meals). Fasting increases noradrenaline that is beneficial for training as growth hormone is beneficial for recovery. With that logic (proteins are not stored so muscles have to be broken down for sugar), I don't see how increasing your protein/fat ratio would help, unless you eat very frequent meals and consider you can get enough sugar from protein but not from fat ? I tend to believe what makes the most sense but something is missing here.
I’ve been pale for years and eating massive amounts of carbs. I’ve been in the sun just as much this year but the tannest I’ve ever been. My skin has also not peeled once where in the past it could peel every couple weeks. I’ve been Ketovore for about 1 year now.
Richard,.hi,.Judy Cho,.I'm new to my Carnivor journey.also I'm impressed with how you keep up with the latest science proven evidence to health and wellbeing information.thank you for sharing on line!!!. I appreciate your honesty.take care,great Podcast Videos.👍
I am 3 months in a strict carnivore, I can manage fat only by not adding extra fat and using only medium-fat meat, because if I exceed with fat I find myself with intestinal gas, bad stomach and then with diarrhea ....
I wish I had come across this video 3 or 4 months ago. I was so glad to see someone in the carnivore community address how Crohn's patients and patients with shortened intestinal tracks do have different needs
@@NutritionwithJudy so grateful for video. My d went from 20 to 10, my clo went from 320 to 580, I can't eat any supplements or c makes me sick. D makes me very sick. I eat 2 to 3 meals an day if hungry. Had fickle matter test 78% green. I feel.great on home meat, something wasn't right was store meat. Huge reaction a fib ,racing heart , almost called er. 3 benadryl latter , I'm calling it store meat is now poison. Thank you so much for your interviews, my drs panicking me I'm good. Cal scan 41 and dropping. Thanks Judy blessings shalom
Creatinine is a measure of muscle turnover. Mine was 1.4 when I was a powerlifter with lots of muscle mass on a paleo diet. On carnivore with WAY more protein but having not worked out in a year it dropped to 1.14. It goes back up if I start training hard again.
??? Started April 18 2022 Carnivore. The reason for doing it is to be supportive of my husband who has an Autoimmune disorder called Wegener's granulomatosis vasculitis. With research that I have been doing Carnivore seems to be the choice to Cure an Autoimmune. We have been intermittent fasting as well. We have a 6 hr eating window and the rest is fasting..... After listening ...I'm confessed as to if this is ok to do or not???? Any help would be grateful! Thank you Very Much~ Defiantly will be listening to this video a few more times to get everything out of it!
I can eat most foods, plant or animal, but I choose to eat mostly plant based. One of the only foods I can't eat is red chili, and yet I can eat green chili if I scrape out the seeds. I've heard Dr. Cywes talk before, and he said he can't eat one apple otherwise he'll eat ALL the apples on the tree! Well, I guess that is carb addiction if it sends you out of control. But I can't eat endless fruit. I eat one or two apples, one or two bananas, or a bowl of berries, and then I'm glad to switch over to some other more protein-rich foods. So the vast majority of us can eat fruits and grains, and even small amounts of pure sugar, honey, or maple syrup. We aren't addicts, so we don't to abstain. I've been vegetarian for 46 years, and even just a few years ago they did a whole blood sugar workup (all night at the hospital) and they said my blood sugar was normal, and that's with plenty of beans and grains in my diet.
There's definately no one size fits all solution. It is a blessing that there is known to be a working solution for so many that veg. just doesn't work for.
One of the best interviews I have seen on metabolism and carnivore subject. But confused a bit, he talks about high levels of blood sugar and insulin on the carnivore diet, and didn't explain why or what is it that we're wrong?
What a great episode! Thank you! I have a question. I have had episodes of kidney stones, tested them after got em out. They were calcium oxalate based. Went animal based very low oxalate diet, but got 3-4 mm stones in both kidneys on the latest ultrasound. Do you think they are uric acid based this time? Would like to know your opinion, thank you.
Wow carnivore 5yrs and yep super high LDL cholesterol super high B12 no clue what to do because as a carb eater I had insulin resistance and PCOS which I’ll never go back to. Maybe just a clean paleo type animal based diet is best? Can’t wait for second half of this!
I've been Keto 2 years and am lean (probably 10% body fat) - still building muscle mass slowly, not decreasing it regardless of OMAD. Also low A1C 4.4 , Ferritin low normal, low normal uric acid, normal creatinine. Fasting morning blood glucose around 70. Also good liver values etc etc. Seems not all lean people are ill or inflamed - sorry lol
I hope to be that person soon. I have started proper carnivore about 2 months ago. I immediately noticed in need 3 meals with proteins. So far i have general improvements in my guts, mood, sleep, everything... but also i have experenced really pronounced lethargy and lack of energy. I hope to overcome it soon 🤞
Thanks for this! Tons of useful information. So one of the interesting points is that the doctor is not a proponent of fasting but smaller regular meals on the carnivore diet or is that methodology for those who are insulin resistant??
I am trying to understand why my cbg monitor numbers are sround the clock 80s to high 90s on a carnivore diet. I heard him talking about longterm carnivores with no fat to lose having multiple inflammation markers like a1c going up. I need to get my cholesterol etc rechecked to see if they are going up too.
My BG has been high since I've gone carnivore too. High 90's, but more between 100-120. I'm more high fat and moderate protein. I can not get it down. If I increase my protein i gain weight.
So is or was Shawn Baker’s. If you don’t check insulin then your BG is useless. You’re body could be so insulin sensitive that it doesn’t need much to keep you in check. Only you can figure that out through testing.
Your BUN *should* be high if you’re eating a lot of protein. It means you’re kidneys are properly producing urea from protein nitrogen so it can be excreted.
So on the carnivore diet, If I am not eating enough and consume two meals per day and I feel satiated but losing muscle mass, how do I ensure that I eat enough so my body isn’t breaking down my own muscle. I cannot eat more than I am eating already. I am skinny, but I don’t know how I could possibly cram in more food (43:30) 😳
Check out Protein Sparing Modified Fast. Find Maria and Craig on utube and get their calculator on how much to eat on Fast day and carnivore day. Is working great for me! Finally.
@@ann7021 thanks For all your suggestions, so kind of you all to respond😊the reason I’m going carnivore is due to severe sensitivities and intolerances. This would include fruit and vegetables. Haven’t had any fruit in years and can only tolerate pumpkins, butternut and well steamed cauliflower. Otherwise, I eat mainly rib-eye steaks, suet, eggs and Himalayan salt. I also have to be very careful with the salt because I’ve tried sole water and it increases my bp and makes me very ill. I have had a look at chronometer etc but find it very difficult to understand how to effectively use it 🙈I am definately not tech savvy
@@shelley4417 I’m a 200lb male and after eating 1lb of ground beef and 4-6 eggs I’m stuffed but that is NOT enough calories to maintain long term. I started using 50grams of protein powder in a shake to up my protein and calories by 350-400. I don’t add Heavy whip cream but i could if i needed even more calories. Try what works for you. Sometimes drinking a zevia soda the sweetness makes me want to eat a bit more so i use that as a hack. Good luck.
Are they any meats help with the shakes In r hand. I di a lot of just eating meats. Not yet went to carnivore. Wanting to do it . I seen r video I wanted to ask you about what I needling to do
Doctors ,I been exercisesing from as I was a kid ,big sceret I change as I age just like the human hormones ,and I stick to the basics ,my diet is basic yes I eat meat ,I don't eat corbs as much like when I was young .I am age 57 ,now people ask me how I look so young ,yes I workout in the gym 3..time a week ,yes I use heavy but I use my brain I stick to the basics .I eat fish and meat some fruit some vegetables but I eat protein and good fats ,and I drink lots of water .yes I walk early morning when the air is clean ,I don't eat process food , and I keep it basic eat you meat and good fats .7..day a week I have 7 ..diet one for each day a week , because there are 7..type of people and we all different but we all can eat meat and fat .I write down all my food the I eat from 1978 till 10.7.2021 Saturday .yes drink your water if you eat meat and fat water is important ,
I have a question about my urine. The last several months since I started eating raw cheese and raw milk, my urine sometimes smells like ammonia. I eat mostly a carnivore diet about 90% and my carbs are usually around 50-60 grams. Can you point me to any resources or have any tips?
How do I find a doctor in my area that is pro carnivore and is well-versed in insulin sensitive or insulin resistant? I live in Arizona, the Phoenix area.
From what I've seen the longer you eat carnivore the better health and blood markers get so I dunno and also blood work I'd only valuable if you Have a Dr that actually understands how to read it and utilize it and is open to a carnivore ketogenic way of eating instead of being paid off by drug companies to push their drugs like for my location I assure you that 98% of the Dr's would rather write you a script and get their kick back then actually try to help heal u.
I believe his name is pronounced “cues” in South Africa. He has westernized it. So if anyone would like to be exact...and not ridiculously judgmental...
Talking about over doing b12 What about those who have the MTHFR snp? I’ve hung on to still taking a methyl b12 and folate thinking I do need this because I can’t methylate well. What are your thoughts on that?
Also thank you so much Judy for bring some great mind twisting content recently it’s confirmed how carnivore has been working for me when others have said this or that.
Well, he might be intelligent and he might be a doctor, but is he telling the truth, I don’t know. I think he listen to that some guy on the Internet. I think he has an hidden motive He is trying to promote going back to the doctor. But if the doctors has done a good job, we won’t even be here on the Internet looking for information
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He's probably the most intelligent and the best communicator I have ever been exposed to.
Because he doesn't look at issues simplistically. He understands the complexity of how diet interacts with genetics, allergies, auto-immune diseases, etc, and when he doesn't know something he says he doesn't know.
This might be the most intelligent and best communicated comment I have ever been exposed to on TH-cam.
Where is he from.. he hasn’t Fla accent.
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@@JC-Utopic-Gauntlet thx!
He's so passionate and confident while being good at admitting he doesn't know something. Brilliant.
Just discovered your channel.
Finally an interviewer that lets the guest talk and not constantly interrupting to show how clever they are.
Well done!
I would like to have heard, at about minute 44:00, Dr. Cywes tell what he does when these concerning blood levels go up that may show damage. The topic got changed. Thanks for the amazingly useful content.
I may have heard the answer moving forward, more protein and frequent meals.
I appreciate the two of you and the knowledge you share with us. I'm looking forward to part 2!
Is there a part 2 by now? 54:31
Sorry for the long comment. Carnivores dealing with loose stools may require temporary Vitamin C supplementation. Elliot Overton, a pro-carnivore nutritionist in England, explains that some of his clients require Vita C along with other temporary high dose nutrients in some of his videos to overcome damages from SAD. Would a podcast with Elliot be in your channel's future?
Elliot's priority is his clients using safe effective methods, supplements included. I agree with him that there is just way too much dogma and nuance against using supplements in the carnivore and keto communities. Micronutrients are only assumed. We only get in what our food eats and what we can absorb. Everyone's requirements are different for both macros and micros. When recovery and health are priority, temporary use of supplements can only be beneficial. But it seems to be frowned upon by those who are anti-supplements unfortunately (hurting more than helping with recovery imo).
This is debatable but we cannot get everything we need through the diet, especially minrerals in the amounts needed to address nutritional deficiency conditions and/or for daily activity level requirements. Good examples are those with alcohol abuse, have had bariatric surgery, ate a lot of white rice, history of anorexia/bulemia. These people require B vitamins supplementation (Beriberi), especially high dose B1. Water soluble vitamins constantly fluctuate with some in the tissue, therefore it's almost impossible to test those levels. Prescription & OTC drugs and caffeine also deplete nutrients too that nobody ever talks about.
I am no longer 100% carnivore due to me finding that I wasn't getting adequate magnesium and trace minerals. I was nose to tail, organ meats and bone broth included. Dr Paul Saladino ran into this same problem too actually with bad muscle cramps. I now include organic lettuce and daily magnesium & plant trace minerals which I was lacking when I was 100% carnivore. Cleared up my muscle cramps and occasional low energy. I also occasionally supplement with high dose Vita C ascorbic acid powder as an anti-histamine (also beneficial for skin plasticity and aging). For me personally, it should help keep my immune strong against respiratory and other infections. Lots of nutrition literature on therapeutic use and benefits of Vita C by Andrew Saul, Thomas Levy, Joseph Mercola, Linus Pauling etc. Do we get enough Vita C on an animal base diet to avoid a deficiency? Yes. But is it optimal for other requirements? Probably no. Vita C is required for collagen synthesis and especially in higher amounts for immune system when mounting an attack on pathogens.
Some will argue that supplementation is not normal nor is it ancestrally appropriate. But neither is driving a car as a means for transportation and yet we all do it.
While I find your post interesting I also wonder about those who have been long term carnivores like Kelly Hogan, as well as several of her other carnivore friends, who doesn't consume Liver and not as much salt, doesn't seem to be having any of the issues you experienced. Perhaps this is more of an individual metabolism issue? As mentioned in the topic is might be more related to utilization vs intake that is more of an issue. I've seen/heard it discussed multiple times that the body needs less vitamin C if carnivore. But again this might be such an individual metabolic issue it's hard for it to be a one size fits all approach.
@@my-yt-inputs2580 You are absolutely right. There is no 1 size fits all. Everyone's needs, metabolic state, even genetic predispositions are different from person to person. The demonization of using supplements is exactly that, this is my main disagreement. By saying that supplements are not necessary is a blanket statement claiming that everyone who embarks on carnivore do not need them. How do we know the state of a person's digestive system is? Can they digest the foods? Do they have enough enzymes and bile acid? Do they have gut dysmotility? The benefit of supplements is that we don't require optimal digestion to absorb most of the nutrients. In certain instances an individual may need more of a particular nutrient than others.
I am pro-carnivore actually. 80-90% of my foods are animal foods. But we can't deny that other diets also cannot promote health. To what extent that's up for debate. I hear all of the time that there is no such thing as essential carbohydrates. While this is absolutely true, one can also make the same argument that there is no such thing as essential saturated fats and cholesterol. This is also true. Our body makes these as needed from other substrates.
We eat foods for both calories and their micronutrients. It's impossible to know exactly what comes in the foods, everything is only assumed based on nutrition facts done at one point on samples. Every cut of meat is different. Every animal is different. Every piece of plant is different. Soils are different. Humans evolved to be opportunistic eaters, meaning that we at everything and anything. Whatever we could hunt, kill, catch, trap, find, grow. This includes consuming plants in times of famine and in geographic regions where animals are scarce. While 99% of plants are not safe, some are and have beneficial nutrients. There are many levels to health. There are the diseased state, steady state, and the optimal state. Individually each state is different for everyone. Diet is only 30-40% of the equation anyhow. There are also lifestyle, stress, sleep, sun, activity levels, as well as times of not eating.
Only concern for me with Vitamin C is the oxalate turnover. I would definitely take vitamin c high dose if I had an infection though.
Carnivores in nature eat digested plants, which are essentially fermented plants. A carnivore isn't necessarily 100% animal meat, fats, milk, eggs. I believe we all need at least 5% fermented plants in our diet, but we have to be careful in what plants we choose to eat.
Thank you for this. I too find Thorne buffered C helps. At 70, my worst issue is my head and back is overheating at night. I am sure it's not post menopause. Trying Aloe Vera, slippery elm and marshmallow roots to heal my gut as I suspect that's the key. Sure would be good if this topic was discussed. I've never heard anyone speak on this.
Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant !!!!!👏👏👏👏👏❤️❤️wow I have thoroughly enjoyed your interviews with Dr Cywes🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦what a treat ☺️He’s a brilliant man and you’ve asked all the right questions Judy✨thank you for this, much appreciated 🙏
The level of detail from Dr Cywes was very welcomed. Confirmed some vague theories I had developed over my time as carnivore. Thank you both very much.
Just beginning carnivore diet to improve already decent health. At 70 noticing a decline in my skin health and nothing I have done helps it to be more hydrated. I do not need to lose weight so have been confused as to how to eat enough to maintain health and how to navigate fat protein combination. I will listen to this several times. There is so much here that is useful. Thank you both for this presentation!
the first study of the carnivore diet was recently published by harvard university with great results from the test subjects. there were only a little over 2000 participants involved, as only a certain amount of money was available, but 95% of the people were able to throw their medication into the bin after a few months. all blood values reached the normal range
Hey Judy. Thanks for this video. With Dr Robert's explanation around insulin, cholesterol and ketones process (10mins onwards), I kind of able to relate to my situation of why I shouldn't do any fasting until my body heals.
Even though I haven't drank milk in 2 years, when I did it was lactaid milk due to being lactose intolerant. Since I've been a carnivore I indulge in cheese at times and it no longer bothers me. I used to take lactaid with cheese but haven't had it in a long time. I think due to this diet change I'm no longer lactose intolerant.😊
Thanks so much for posting this great interview, Judy! Dr. Cywes is one of my favorites! Looking forward to part 2!
I drink raw bile from the animals I butcher as a digestive stimulus.
I’ve been eating a raw meat based diet for 11 years, and have more first person experience regarding the carnivore diet than most people.
Would be open to speaking with Judy if she is open to a discussion on the raw and wild side!
I am pro-raw animal foods too. In my culture we hunt for or slaughter our own animals for food too. Some parts of a cow, such as the blood, bile, joints we do sometimes eat raw immediately. But that I think that is where the issue is. Butchered weeks or months ago and frozen is not the same as freshly killed and butchered. The access to freshly butchered animal meat is near impossible for most people who do want to eat raw, myself included now where I live.
Would love to hear that interview between you two. Really would love to hear your take on high cholesterol after carnivore and protein/fat ratios
I keep a meat locker where I can dry age whole sheep for up to a month or so. I believe raw meat and naturally occurring bacteria are healthy. I eat all the glands and organs raw.
All these medical talks can be interesting and somewhat informative, especially for people starting out, but after the first few years I began to operate primarily from intuition and instinct.
There is an organic holistic synergy to my approach that is beyond the scope of the keepers of the scientific worldview to fathom. I found the minutia of lab generated data was mostly useless during my own quest for health.
@@SuperSabortooth I agree with you actually. Those who can stomach it raw, myself included, we just don't have a way to hunt, raise, butcher, and properly store fresh animal meat. I live in Los Angeles where it's impossible to do. I am lucky to even have found local ranchers about 2 hours drive away for me to get frozen grass fed grass finished ruminant meat, local pasture raised eggs, and raw milk. Before coming to America, mt family lived in the jungle mountains of Laos so supermarkets, refrigeration, electricity, running water didn't exist.
@@JYAN2852 Where there is a will there is a way. There are ways to preserve meat raw without refrigeration, by making air dried jerky.
Although fats are best raw, they can be rendered at low temperature and eaten with the dried meat to make a complete food.
I guess I’m a unique case, having my own meat locker to keep a fresh animal every month. It’s hard work and sacrifice to live this way , but the rewards are worth it.
35:35 "I think that's one of the beautiful things about carnivore - it should be supplement free" - Dr. Robert Cywes.
Exactly! No plastic. No way to get yourself poisoned with processed stuff. Make everything from fresh meat. I've learned to can mean, dry meat, make great meat+water+salt soups, even ferment liver. Lovely way to live without every visiting a supermarket. Direct from the farm and can run a home on super low energy usage and very few meals per day, if any... Especially in the summer right now, hardly eat anything...
I am the opposite. I had loose stools for many many years and now that I’ve been on the carnivore diet for two months I’m finally normalized. I haven’t known what a real bm was for over 20 years. My gallbladder was out in 91 so I have spent the majority of my life without one. I haven’t had any issues really other than that. And I finally feel like I don’t have to run to the bathroom all the time or know where a bathroom is when I’m out and about
Your interview style is so easy. Love these conversations.
thank you for interviewing this guest. I appreciated his clarity!
Really appreciate this. Esp re bile for those eating carnivore post gallbladder removal. Thank you.
While I respect and follow Dr Cywes I have to respectfully disagree on the protein muscles breakdown for causing elevated fasting glucose. No matter a person's BMI is or how lean we are, humans will always have around 10% bodyfat. I had this same problem when I was 100% carnivore.
Tommy Wood and Saladino explained in their posdcasts that this is caused by physiological insulin resistance for some ppl when the muscles intentionally resist glucose. This supposedly is the result of moving too far in one direction for too long. After triglycerides are broken down as energy, the triglyceride glycerin backbone, 3 of them, get converted into glucose via gluconeogenesis. (Will and Maria Emmermich explain macros energy metabolism really well in their protein sparing modified fast lectures.) But anyhow once I began to cycle in and out of ketosis, the elevated markers that Dr Cywes talked about in his patients' labs all normalized for me.
People on keto or carnivore can generally tolerate the sun UV skin damage probably more due to decreased Omega6 intake. This was verified by Tucker Goodrich in his podcasts through his N=1 anecdote. High intake of Omega6 makes people's skin more susceptible to sun UV damage and oxidation.
I was not convinced either by the breaking down of our own muscles for sugar explanation. A fat adapted person would use preferentially dietary fats or ketones for fuel and the few cells than need glucose specifically would use gluconeogenesis from dietary fats/proteins or glucose/fat stores. The body is also more efficient at utilizing carbs when on keto or zc so you don't need as much.
Also, growth hormone is promoted by fasting, which increases lean body mass, and decreases at meal times (which seems counter to the idea of breaking down meals). Fasting increases noradrenaline that is beneficial for training as growth hormone is beneficial for recovery.
With that logic (proteins are not stored so muscles have to be broken down for sugar), I don't see how increasing your protein/fat ratio would help, unless you eat very frequent meals and consider you can get enough sugar from protein but not from fat ?
I tend to believe what makes the most sense but something is missing here.
I’ve been pale for years and eating massive amounts of carbs. I’ve been in the sun just as much this year but the tannest I’ve ever been. My skin has also not peeled once where in the past it could peel every couple weeks. I’ve been Ketovore for about 1 year now.
Omg this is gold! Thank you soooo much✌🏻😍🙌🏻
Just watched this ... absolutely awesome information. One of those vids so packed that it needs to be watched over and over to catch everything!!!
I LOVE, LOVE the use of correct words and definitions! Not "catch-all" words and phrases!
Thank you. I have been looking on TH-cam for weeks for a video that is not a freaking infomercial.
Richard,.hi,.Judy Cho,.I'm new to my Carnivor journey.also I'm impressed with how you keep up with the latest science proven evidence to health and wellbeing information.thank you for sharing on line!!!. I appreciate your honesty.take care,great Podcast Videos.👍
I am 3 months in a strict carnivore, I can manage fat only by not adding extra fat and using only medium-fat meat, because if I exceed with fat I find myself with intestinal gas, bad stomach and then with diarrhea ....
Hello,
How are you doing now?
I wish I had come across this video 3 or 4 months ago. I was so glad to see someone in the carnivore community address how Crohn's patients and patients with shortened intestinal tracks do have different needs
This is the best explanation about how our body works! Thank you Dr. Cywes
I had Costco meat huge reaction. Something is changing with foods. Beware all. Shalom
@@NutritionwithJudy so grateful for video. My d went from 20 to 10, my clo went from 320 to 580, I can't eat any supplements or c makes me sick. D makes me very sick. I eat 2 to 3 meals an day if hungry. Had fickle matter test 78% green. I feel.great on home meat, something wasn't right was store meat. Huge reaction a fib ,racing heart , almost called er. 3 benadryl latter , I'm calling it store meat is now poison. Thank you so much for your interviews, my drs panicking me I'm good. Cal scan 41 and dropping. Thanks Judy blessings shalom
Walmart's meat gets to me, but not my local butcher's, go figure.
Had to laugh when doc said Austin is near the sea. Too funny.
Happy outlier in comparison to Indiana it sure is
Well I live in Northern IL so anything in Texas would be considered by the sea for me. Haha. 🤣🤣
Thank you both, look forward to part 2.
Wow, GREAT INFO and interview! Thank You Judy ! Looking for Part 2 now! 💖
Thank you
Thank you for this podcast. Very informative. Looking forward to part 2.
Excellent podcast. Thanks so much.
This was so super informative and answered a lot of questions. Thank you!!
Creatinine is a measure of muscle turnover. Mine was 1.4 when I was a powerlifter with lots of muscle mass on a paleo diet. On carnivore with WAY more protein but having not worked out in a year it dropped to 1.14. It goes back up if I start training hard again.
Wow! I will stay tuned!! I am so excited to hear part 2
This Dr is a man I enjoy listening to. 54:31
??? Started April 18 2022 Carnivore. The reason for doing it is to be supportive of my husband who has an Autoimmune disorder called Wegener's granulomatosis vasculitis. With research that I have been doing Carnivore seems to be the choice to Cure an Autoimmune. We have been intermittent fasting as well. We have a 6 hr eating window and the rest is fasting..... After listening ...I'm confessed as to if this is ok to do or not???? Any help would be grateful! Thank you Very Much~ Defiantly will be listening to this video a few more times to get everything out of it!
Awesome, can’t wait for part 2.
I can eat most foods, plant or animal, but I choose to eat mostly plant based. One of the only foods I can't eat is red chili, and yet I can eat green chili if I scrape out the seeds. I've heard Dr. Cywes talk before, and he said he can't eat one apple otherwise he'll eat ALL the apples on the tree! Well, I guess that is carb addiction if it sends you out of control. But I can't eat endless fruit. I eat one or two apples, one or two bananas, or a bowl of berries, and then I'm glad to switch over to some other more protein-rich foods. So the vast majority of us can eat fruits and grains, and even small amounts of pure sugar, honey, or maple syrup. We aren't addicts, so we don't to abstain. I've been vegetarian for 46 years, and even just a few years ago they did a whole blood sugar workup (all night at the hospital) and they said my blood sugar was normal, and that's with plenty of beans and grains in my diet.
There's definately no one size fits all solution. It is a blessing that there is known to be a working solution for so many that veg. just doesn't work for.
One of the best interviews I have seen on metabolism and carnivore subject.
But confused a bit, he talks about high levels of blood sugar and insulin on the carnivore diet, and didn't explain why or what is it that we're wrong?
Great discussion!
Please have a documentation on the benefit of carnivore diet based on kraft insulin assay test and other important blood work including CAC
What a great episode! Thank you!
I have a question. I have had episodes of kidney stones, tested them after got em out. They were calcium oxalate based. Went animal based very low oxalate diet, but got 3-4 mm stones in both kidneys on the latest ultrasound. Do you think they are uric acid based this time? Would like to know your opinion, thank you.
So when to use autophagy for regeneration and healing...?
This guy is awesome ☺️👏🏻👌🏻
He says supplements are not necessary on carnivore. What’s your thought Judy?
Great interview, can't wait for part 2!!!
YESSSS!!!!!
Wow carnivore 5yrs and yep super high LDL cholesterol super high B12 no clue what to do because as a carb eater I had insulin resistance and PCOS which I’ll never go back to. Maybe just a clean paleo type animal based diet is best? Can’t wait for second half of this!
This didn’t disappoint. SO good.
"The Olsen twins of the Carnivore community." - That's funny stuff. Thanks for the great content, Judy.
I've been Keto 2 years and am lean (probably 10% body fat) - still building muscle mass slowly, not decreasing it regardless of OMAD. Also low A1C 4.4 , Ferritin low normal, low normal uric acid, normal creatinine. Fasting morning blood glucose around 70. Also good liver values etc etc.
Seems not all lean people are ill or inflamed - sorry lol
I hope to be that person soon. I have started proper carnivore about 2 months ago. I immediately noticed in need 3 meals with proteins. So far i have general improvements in my guts, mood, sleep, everything... but also i have experenced really pronounced lethargy and lack of energy. I hope to overcome it soon 🤞
Thanks for this! Tons of useful information. So one of the interesting points is that the doctor is not a proponent of fasting but smaller regular meals on the carnivore diet or is that methodology for those who are insulin resistant??
@@NutritionwithJudy got it! Thanks again
I am trying to understand why my cbg monitor numbers are sround the clock 80s to high 90s on a carnivore diet. I heard him talking about longterm carnivores with no fat to lose having multiple inflammation markers like a1c going up. I need to get my cholesterol etc rechecked to see if they are going up too.
What about gallbladder pain? Doesn't that signify dysfunction even if your stool shows that you're probably producing/using bile effectively.
I didn't understand any of this. What is causing the sugar increase?
What does it mean when he says “mostly” carnivore for his personal diet
My BG has been high since I've gone carnivore too. High 90's, but more between 100-120. I'm more high fat and moderate protein. I can not get it down. If I increase my protein i gain weight.
So is or was Shawn Baker’s. If you don’t check insulin then your BG is useless. You’re body could be so insulin sensitive that it doesn’t need much to keep you in check. Only you can figure that out through testing.
Your BUN *should* be high if you’re eating a lot of protein. It means you’re kidneys are properly producing urea from protein nitrogen so it can be excreted.
So on the carnivore diet, If I am not eating enough and consume two meals per day and I feel satiated but losing muscle mass, how do I ensure that I eat enough so my body isn’t breaking down my own muscle. I cannot eat more than I am eating already. I am skinny, but I don’t know how I could possibly cram in more food (43:30) 😳
If you want more calories try double cream and fatty red meat. If you want to build muscle, do weight training.
That's when I add some carbs, I also find it hard to eat enough calories.
Check out Protein Sparing Modified Fast. Find Maria and Craig on utube and get their calculator on how much to eat on Fast day and carnivore day. Is working great for me! Finally.
@@ann7021 thanks For all your suggestions, so kind of you all to respond😊the reason I’m going carnivore is due to severe sensitivities and intolerances. This would include fruit and vegetables. Haven’t had any fruit in years and can only tolerate pumpkins, butternut and well steamed cauliflower. Otherwise, I eat mainly rib-eye steaks, suet, eggs and Himalayan salt. I also have to be very careful with the salt because I’ve tried sole water and it increases my bp and makes me very ill. I have had a look at chronometer etc but find it very difficult to understand how to effectively use it 🙈I am definately not tech savvy
@@shelley4417 I’m a 200lb male and after eating 1lb of ground beef and 4-6 eggs I’m stuffed but that is NOT enough calories to maintain long term. I started using 50grams of protein powder in a shake to up my protein and calories by 350-400. I don’t add Heavy whip cream but i could if i needed even more calories. Try what works for you. Sometimes drinking a zevia soda the sweetness makes me want to eat a bit more so i use that as a hack. Good luck.
Inuit fasting blood glucose averaged 120mg/dl
Are they any meats help with the shakes In r hand. I di a lot of just eating meats. Not yet went to carnivore. Wanting to do it . I seen r video I wanted to ask you about what I needling to do
Supplemental Butyrate is awesome. Sunbutyrate, is my last piece of the puzzle. It should've been my first step.
Doctors ,I been exercisesing from as I was a kid ,big sceret I change as I age just like the human hormones ,and I stick to the basics ,my diet is basic yes I eat meat ,I don't eat corbs as much like when I was young .I am age 57 ,now people ask me how I look so young ,yes I workout in the gym 3..time a week ,yes I use heavy but I use my brain I stick to the basics .I eat fish and meat some fruit some vegetables but I eat protein and good fats ,and I drink lots of water .yes I walk early morning when the air is clean ,I don't eat process food , and I keep it basic eat you meat and good fats .7..day a week I have 7 ..diet one for each day a week , because there are 7..type of people and we all different but we all can eat meat and fat .I write down all my food the I eat from 1978 till 10.7.2021 Saturday .yes drink your water if you eat meat and fat water is important ,
The more carbs you eat. The more vitamin c you need
Interesting !!!
I have a question about my urine. The last several months since I started eating raw cheese and raw milk, my urine sometimes smells like ammonia. I eat mostly a carnivore diet about 90% and my carbs are usually around 50-60 grams. Can you point me to any resources or have any tips?
That's a lot of carbs once you add in lactose from the dairy.
I’m not trying to lose weight. I consume 50-70 carbs usually.
Using the protein pool to manufacture sugar…does this mean I have to consume more carbs 🤔
No. Look up gluconeogenesis.
@@kateaye3506 ah huh yes of course thanks Kate 👍
The liver needs no carbs to produce glucose - it can use the protein you eat
How do I find a doctor in my area that is pro carnivore and is well-versed in insulin sensitive or insulin resistant? I live in Arizona, the Phoenix area.
Dr. Adam Nally
Anyone know good functional medicine doctor practitioner in Chicago area-NW suburbs...?
You can call Dr Cywes and do a telemed visit, insurance usually will cover it
@@tracyfinch3974 already have his number👍
How do you find a carnivore physician in yOur home town? That sees patients?
Is it only carnivore or basically functional medicine doctors..?
You show a steak with greens on it. Hmm. Odd stuff.
Great!!!!
It's easy to say seek out a doctor that's not anti carnivore/anti fat. I live in Salina Kansas. Goad luck with that,
I had my gallbladder removed at 21 years old. I eat a carnivore diet, but I am having diarrhea.
CY-vis!!!
If T3 low and insulin low as well as pancreatic enzymes, is he suggesting he would not supplement T3? What are potential consequence of excess T3?
Fantastic discussion!!
From what I've seen the longer you eat carnivore the better health and blood markers get so I dunno and also blood work I'd only valuable if you Have a Dr that actually understands how to read it and utilize it and is open to a carnivore ketogenic way of eating instead of being paid off by drug companies to push their drugs like for my location I assure you that 98% of the Dr's would rather write you a script and get their kick back then actually try to help heal u.
I def am skinny and I can’t get to one meal a day I have to eat wayyyyy more
I believe his name is pronounced “cues” in South Africa. He has westernized it. So if anyone would like to be exact...and not ridiculously judgmental...
Talking about over doing b12 What about those who have the MTHFR snp? I’ve hung on to still taking a methyl b12 and folate thinking I do need this because I can’t methylate well. What are your thoughts on that?
Also thank you so much Judy for bring some great mind twisting content recently it’s confirmed how carnivore has been working for me when others have said this or that.
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It's pronounced 'Sigh Ves'
Well, he might be intelligent and he might be a doctor, but is he telling the truth, I don’t know. I think he listen to that some guy on the Internet. I think he has an hidden motive He is trying to promote going back to the doctor. But if the doctors has done a good job, we won’t even be here on the Internet looking for information
But Dr. Cywes what if a person is not skinny?
Most of the time he’s talking to people who aren’t skinny, he is also a bariatric surgeon...
Wish she learned how to pronounce the name of her guest. 🤦♂️
💚🏜️ love the context