Anyone wanting to remove one of these taps but are still a bit nervous, tape a hose pipe to the edge and have constant running water onto the tap to eliminate any sparks and it will also water down the gas, you will get a bit wet though, Great video and thanks for the tips
i weld and repair hydrocarbon pipework and vessels for a living on oil rigs. its the exact same process empty tank flush with water then we purge and hay presto one huge gas hydocarbon vessel save to weld , cut, burn. good job with vid you will always get folk saying it unsafe because its a gas tank they just dont know what they are doing with them. if you dont know then dont touch them
The reason it had the long pipe on the valve is the tank is whats called a liquid off take tank for running a fork truck engine, all cylinders painted black on the top are like that. The cylinder lays on its side on the back of the truck, the curved end of the dip tube draws off liquid gas from the bottom of the tank. All other propane or butane tanks just have a small valve in the top, that pulls off Gaseous Propane or Butane has it boils off when under use.
Well after about 2 hours of hammering hell out of an exact same bottle I thought someone on the Tube must have done this before. And sure enough there are a few methods including a bloke smoking whilst doing it with the big chisel until his hammerhead fell off!!!! Then I saw this and the tool, which I have just copied, and hey presto one open bottle. Thanks butt Cardiff is now safe from explosion.
***** Laugh? I nearly fell on my pyrotechnic backside! I think Colchester Ave would have to come to my rescue. My sisters BF just retired from the service in Cardiff (first name Dean)
Great video i used your guide and made a slight variation cut a single notch hole for mole/vice grips to fit put a scafild pole over them and its turned off after a litte grunting 👍👏😉😁 thanks for the help. long wearing chimnea here i come
Nice video,, I've been trying to remove a stubborn valve today with no luck but I'm gunna give this one a go and you know what you are doing unless you wouldn't be doing it in the first place, you always get that one person with a daft comments,,,
Fair play mate .getting the valve out of one of thease is not easy .there threaded in by a monster machine with a tone of pressure. Iv given up trying to unscrew them now I just cut the valve half way through at the base with my grinder then hamer it of the rest of the way is ok to grind the brass no spark .I do purge them with water if they had gas in but normally I only chop emptys .10 out of 10 on the tool u made think im going to have a look at making one
I did two last night, they do come out but you need patience some large adjustable spanners and a bar of something strong. I used a big spanner to get it turning while trapping and opposing bar through the handle to prevent the bottle rotating. Then I simply leave the bottles upside down overnight, the gas is heavier than air, so just pours out the hole.
+Bruce Clothier Did you not just answer your own question? ;-) He meant it turns to the left, got the thread wrong or mixed up LH or RH. It is definitely RH thread.
All the ones I come across have been righthand threads into the bottle, he is probably thinking about the part of the valve where the regulator screws in, that is usually a lefthand thread. The ones on Oxygen bottles have righthand regulator threads and normally fuel gases like Propane or Acetylene have left threads so you cannot mix them up. The bit that goes into the bottle in any case will be righthand I would have thought, no point really having a left thread on that bit.
I cut the guard off then used a ratchit strap to tie it to a heavy work bench leg I took the vlave out when i was out side then ran water from a hose pipe in to it and it did smell a bit
You quite clearly know what you are doing Tony and I think the design of tool you came up with is really good but I have to say, that contemplating something like that would scare the be-jesus out of me. One mistake not emptying the bottle enough and one spark and it could go very wrong. Also is it better to lay the bottle on it's side when emptying it fully, or to keep it standing upright?
Don't know where you get the sparks coming from taking a tap off a gas bottle, doing it like this or similar. Anyone doing this would have the gas turned off anyway or should and if done in the open air to which it should be their is no danger and far safer.
Thanks to Tony that is really useful you know. I'm thinking about making an outdoor log burner with a gas bottle so I can't wait for your next instalment. John
2.14 you knew they were left hand thread so they had to go anti clockwise to get them out? (Left) No that's right hand thread, left for loose, right for tight. A left hand thread is undone by going clockwise! (Right)
i was told that gas bottle are galvenised maybe you can use some citic acid with some water & dish washer sait to help remove galvenise-ing on the bottle out side for a week or two after de gas , i am not sure if it works or not so can you look in to this at your risk.
nice tool you made, am looking into making a stove out off same bottle,! am looking into safety few days now, & am confident through research if you fill bottle couple times with water & empty it should be safe to cut, maybe if you cut small hole the size of safety thread you removed you could thread a ltl pipe out & reuse the thread you took off for an air intake so you could unscrew to open & close just an idea!
Bleed off all pressure! First. Turn upside down. Keep tank in cool shaded area . No sun on tank. Tank must be recertification after 12 years. And revalued. If collar is broke or tank has dents? Scrap tank.
I think its 1/2'' bsp taper, but I'm not sure. Its strange I cannot seem to find this information anywhere on the net!.I had read it was 3/4'' bsp taper, but after buying 1, found out that was wrong, but it is a taper thread, thats all I know, Its typical got the 'tap' off ok and now can't find the bl@ody thread size, Thanks for the suggestion.
the "left hand" thread you speak about, is on the outlet connector to your devices .......... possible for historic anti-theft or safety from muppets ...........
Get it right mate.. You stated that the valve was LEFT handed thread.. If it came out by turning it anti clockwise, its a normal thread.. No amount of hitting it would have brought it out.. you were turning it the wrong way..
An amateur would be preoccupied with who made the bottle and the amount it will hold. A professional would realize that for this project and the subject of this video, none of that matters. Just get on with doing what it is you intend to do and skip all the preliminary BS. Your first mistake is that YOU don't know what you're doing. Your next mistake is trying to tell and show other people how to do something in which you have no experience and no expertise. And the whole thing just goes downhill from there...
You buy the gas in these not the bottles they remain the property of the company you only rent it from them I'd check the legality of damaging a rented product
You're alive only because your luck is far greater than your intelligence my friend. The most shocking thing about this post is that you actually use the word safe. This post is only lacking you attemptimg to burn off any gas that may remain in the vessel or using a naked flame to see if you can see the gas inside. SAFE is not a word I think you shoukd be using here.
It is actually not that dangerous, however I always do mine outdoors. I check they are empty, then get the valve off with big adjustable and a bar, then leave the bottle upside down at the end of the garden for a week before cutting into it. A better way is to purge the bottle with N2, CO2 or Ar gas before starting to cut.
Oh, 'cmon. Not that health and safety/legal crap again. He's not puting tools in anyone hands. If you dont know what you're doing, then dont do it. I find it useful as i'm building a stove too. It's called COMMON SENCE. Read the title, it says at the end : "safely" if it's not safe enough for you, then move on, cope on lads... Thanks for sharing Tony
***** That's right. This stuff is not for everyone and grown ups should know darn well. Not to feed us with health/safety/legal advise. If I'm not comfortable or sure, I'm not doing it. Or at least look out for information. As I said above, JUST COMMON SENSE
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Anyone wanting to remove one of these taps but are still a bit nervous, tape a hose pipe to the edge and have constant running water onto the tap to eliminate any sparks and it will also water down the gas, you will get a bit wet though, Great video and thanks for the tips
i weld and repair hydrocarbon pipework and vessels for a living on oil rigs. its the exact same process empty tank flush with water then we purge and hay presto one huge gas hydocarbon vessel save to weld , cut, burn. good job with vid you will always get folk saying it unsafe because its a gas tank they just dont know what they are doing with them. if you dont know then dont touch them
Thanks tony that's the best way I have seen it done . I have made the tool and used it 5 times very useful
I like your removal tool, thats the best way i have seen them removed, although i must point out that is not a left hand thread.
That wasnt the way it undid, you turned it to the left when you undid it!
One of the best and safest videos that I have seen on this subject. Thanks
The reason it had the long pipe on the valve is the tank is whats called a liquid off take tank for running a fork truck engine, all cylinders painted black on the top are like that.
The cylinder lays on its side on the back of the truck, the curved end of the dip tube draws off liquid gas from the bottom of the tank.
All other propane or butane tanks just have a small valve in the top, that pulls off Gaseous Propane or Butane has it boils off when under use.
Well after about 2 hours of hammering hell out of an exact same bottle I thought someone on the Tube must have done this before. And sure enough there are a few methods including a bloke smoking whilst doing it with the big chisel until his hammerhead fell off!!!! Then I saw this and the tool, which I have just copied, and hey presto one open bottle. Thanks butt Cardiff is now safe from explosion.
***** Laugh? I nearly fell on my pyrotechnic backside! I think Colchester Ave would have to come to my rescue. My sisters BF just retired from the service in Cardiff (first name Dean)
Great tool design...nice and simple...
Great video i used your guide and made a slight variation cut a single notch hole for mole/vice grips to fit put a scafild pole over them and its turned off after a litte grunting 👍👏😉😁 thanks for the help. long wearing chimnea here i come
Nice video,, I've been trying to remove a stubborn valve today with no luck but I'm gunna give this one a go and you know what you are doing unless you wouldn't be doing it in the first place, you always get that one person with a daft comments,,,
Fair play mate .getting the valve out of one of thease is not easy .there threaded in by a monster machine with a tone of pressure. Iv given up trying to unscrew them now I just cut the valve half way through at the base with my grinder then hamer it of the rest of the way is ok to grind the brass no spark .I do purge them with water if they had gas in but normally I only chop emptys .10 out of 10 on the tool u made think im going to have a look at making one
I did two last night, they do come out but you need patience some large adjustable spanners and a bar of something strong. I used a big spanner to get it turning while trapping and opposing bar through the handle to prevent the bottle rotating.
Then I simply leave the bottles upside down overnight, the gas is heavier than air, so just pours out the hole.
It works soo well made my own and have take out about 30 in less than a 10th of the time its taken me before. clean and easy
@@edwilko8819 could you go into detail? I'm using a flogas (brand) cylinder..
Hi, why did you only cut half way?
I'm confused, half way through the depth or half of the valve,? Thanls
You said it had a LH thread, but you undid it by turning anti-clockwise which makes it a RH thread. So which is it?
+Bruce Clothier Did you not just answer your own question? ;-)
He meant it turns to the left, got the thread wrong or mixed up LH or RH. It is definitely RH thread.
It's a normal right hand thread just like most nuts and bolts. Anti-clockwise to loosen.
All the ones I come across have been righthand threads into the bottle, he is probably thinking about the part of the valve where the regulator screws in, that is usually a lefthand thread.
The ones on Oxygen bottles have righthand regulator threads and normally fuel gases like Propane or Acetylene have left threads so you cannot mix them up.
The bit that goes into the bottle in any case will be righthand I would have thought, no point really having a left thread on that bit.
Nice job brother, very similar to the tooling I made for the same job :-)
I cut the guard off then used a ratchit strap to tie it to a heavy work bench leg
I took the vlave out when i was out side then ran water from a hose pipe in to it and it did smell a bit
Well...... it was creative.
:)
how did this with cylinders didn´t have the up and down supports?
You quite clearly know what you are doing Tony and I think the design of tool you came up with is really good but I have to say, that contemplating something like that would scare the be-jesus out of me. One mistake not emptying the bottle enough and one spark and it could go very wrong. Also is it better to lay the bottle on it's side when emptying it fully, or to keep it standing upright?
***** Just a bit of a pointer... calor type gas (butane or propane) is HEAVIER than air (not that it matters, just do it in a well ventilated area)
Don't know where you get the sparks coming from taking a tap off a gas bottle, doing it like this or similar. Anyone doing this would have the gas turned off anyway or should and if done in the open air to which it should be their is no danger and far safer.
@@phil3332 He's a qualified and experienced professional Fire Officer, I trust what he says.
Well I'll be john brown....brilliant mate.
Thanks to Tony that is really useful you know. I'm thinking about making an outdoor log burner with a gas bottle so I can't wait for your next instalment.
John
2.14 you knew they were left hand thread so they had to go anti clockwise to get them out? (Left) No that's right hand thread, left for loose, right for tight. A left hand thread is undone by going clockwise! (Right)
It's a normal RIGHT hand thread. Anti-clockwise to loosen. End of story !!
The left hand thread is in the valve itself of course, when you connect the regulator.
What about BBQ gas bottles are they the same or is there another way?
Same as any cyclinder
Nice tool , thanks for the tip.
how long is that scaf pole butty and when is you next vid on this?
right ohh thank you buddy
i was told that gas bottle are galvenised maybe you can use some citic acid with some water & dish washer sait to help remove galvenise-ing on the bottle out side for a week or two after de gas , i am not sure if it works or not so can you look in to this at your risk.
looks like a right hand thread to me
Yes, correct. It's definetly a right hand thread.
nice tool you made, am looking into making a stove out off same bottle,! am looking into safety few days now, & am confident through research if you fill bottle couple times with water & empty it should be safe to cut, maybe if you cut small hole the size of safety thread you removed you could thread a ltl pipe out & reuse the thread you took off for an air intake so you could unscrew to open & close just an idea!
Cool
That typically won't work on gas cylinders where thread sealing compound has been used.
Bleed off all pressure! First. Turn upside down. Keep tank in cool shaded area . No sun on tank. Tank must be recertification after 12 years. And revalued. If collar is broke or tank has dents? Scrap tank.
anyone know the thread size for uk butane tap to bottle?
Think they are 27mm
I think its 1/2'' bsp taper, but I'm not sure. Its strange I cannot seem to find this information anywhere on the net!.I had read it was 3/4'' bsp taper, but after buying 1, found out that was wrong, but it is a taper thread, thats all I know, Its typical got the 'tap' off ok and now can't find the bl@ody thread size, Thanks for the suggestion.
Yuo better do that outside mate. Fluorescent tubes sometimes arking at the contacts with the sockets
***** I had 3 knocking about, one of them turned to be 1/3 full ;-) and all rusty on outside. Great video man, thanks for sharing
Left hand thread unscrew in a clockwise direction fella.
i prefer Beardys way of belting it with a hammer...thanks for uploading!
toy say it is a left hand thread, but you opened the valve like a standard right hand thread !! What I do not understand?
mine just come straight of with a adjustable spanner. a under counter spanner would probably work just as well.
never ever hit a gas bottle with hammer and chisel etc....unless made of brass ie something that wont spark
The valve is made of brass
Clearly NOT left hand thread!
Do it next to a flame! Hit it real hard and make sure you get some sparks! No, seriously, and make sure you film it.
A rectangle hole.
the "left hand" thread you speak about, is on the outlet connector to your devices ..........
possible for historic anti-theft or safety from muppets ...........
It is so fuel gas can only be connected to compatable equipment
Left handed thread... well, that's where I've been going wrong 😁😁😁 I'll have another go. Cheers.
talk about pulling teeth!
Have a look at thedaveyboy58 and see how he empties gas bottles.
Get it right mate.. You stated that the valve was LEFT handed thread.. If it came out by turning it anti clockwise, its a normal thread.. No amount of hitting it would have brought it out.. you were turning it the wrong way..
I thought the same, turning anti clockwise is a normal thread lol
An amateur would be preoccupied with who made the bottle and the amount it will hold. A professional would realize that for this project and the subject of this video, none of that matters. Just get on with doing what it is you intend to do and skip all the preliminary BS.
Your first mistake is that YOU don't know what you're doing. Your next mistake is trying to tell and show other people how to do something in which you have no experience and no expertise. And the whole thing just goes downhill from there...
Agreed
You buy the gas in these not the bottles they remain the property of the company you only rent it from them I'd check the legality of damaging a rented product
they have a shelf life and cannot be used for gas after that.
You're alive only because your luck is far greater than your intelligence my friend. The most shocking thing about this post is that you actually use the word safe. This post is only lacking you attemptimg to burn off any gas that may remain in the vessel or using a naked flame to see if you can see the gas inside. SAFE is not a word I think you shoukd be using here.
+Steve Mc Carron Now it's two without common sense !?
It is actually not that dangerous, however I always do mine outdoors. I check they are empty, then get the valve off with big adjustable and a bar, then leave the bottle upside down at the end of the garden for a week before cutting into it.
A better way is to purge the bottle with N2, CO2 or Ar gas before starting to cut.
Need a tool, make a tool.
Perfect way to be Dougie, got a problem find a solution and make a hillbilly tool to sort it :)
UK Here We Grow 100% buddy, just been watching your brood Jig, I take my hat off to ya
Funny enough a new video out next its edited you see it all as im setting eggs
Thanks man. Make life easy is what I say :)
UK Here We Grow can’t wait, have a great season Tony
You realise by posting this you risk someone copying you, injuring themselves then blaming/sueing you?
Oh, 'cmon. Not that health and safety/legal crap again. He's not puting tools in anyone hands. If you dont know what you're doing, then dont do it. I find it useful as i'm building a stove too. It's called COMMON SENCE. Read the title, it says at the end : "safely" if it's not safe enough for you, then move on, cope on lads... Thanks for sharing Tony
***** That's right. This stuff is not for everyone and grown ups should know darn well. Not to feed us with health/safety/legal advise. If I'm not comfortable or sure, I'm not doing it. Or at least look out for information. As I said above, JUST COMMON SENSE