How to safely cut gas bottles open
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2024
- I'm starting another job with a large propane bottle, i use them for quite a few of my projects and having had a close shave many years ago thought i should pass on my safety tips to prevent anyone else pooping their pants.
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The safety shorts and t shirt is essential for this kind of work also doing it at night increases the chance of nothing going wrong... He's my kind of guy!! Xx
If health and safety was out in the industrial revolution It wouldn't have happened
Ha ha Ha ha ha ha
@@petewadsworth8492Ha ha ha ..exactly..this man is looks like " a industrial revolution"
When taking the valve off put a breaker bar through one side of the holes around the bottom off the bottle. Itll stop the bottle from rolling around and make your life so much easier 👍🏼👌🏼
Thanks mate gave .e a lot of confidence to cut it now I have prepped exactly the same as you so I'm hoping it's safe now
I build custom furniture and I'm just about to cut my first gas bottle, very glad I watched this first.
Hi bud spot on you cleared that up for me
But did spot some thing to help where the slots are at the butof the gas cilinder slide a bar through and that will help it to stop spinning as you try and take the valve of hope you have a good day
Thanks for the confidence boost in showing us.
09:38 Your legs are totally hardened to the effects of fire and brimstone too.
Amazing to see the gas venting like that. Just shows. 👍
Stephen Cresswell I'm going to keep an eye open for an old projector pull down screen and experiment, see if I can look at the vapor on other stuff
Stephen Cresswell I'm going to keep an eye open for an old projector pull down screen and experiment, see if I can look at the vapor on other stuff
And I'm sorry, joe just beat you and won the parang, thanks for being a good sport
Dude you are crazy I thought you were going to break your leg
That was a cool video I liked how you showed how the gas was coming out
Thanks for sharing
That's a great 1970s style safety awareness video....brought bang up to date.. love it!
Sam's Outdoor Life glad you appreciated it my friend, still keen on making a gas bottle Dutch oven.
I also assess safety risks as they come at me and stay dynamic. Common sense and awareness of things, like the shadow of escaping gasses, is key to it. I have all my appendages intact also
traderjoes Joe mate congratulations, you've won a parang!
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5:50 In the 90s when i used these bottles as air tank for my DIY compressor, i used a flat bar of steel and a vice (pliers) on the bottom, so the bottle can't rotate. Then a large adjustable wrench like yours, with a 1.5 meter long metal pipe as an extension for unscrewing the tap. The reason those taps are so tight is that the threads are conical, so the deeper the tap is screwed in, the tighter it gets. As soon as the tap is unscrewed half a turn, it goes very easy.
For degassing itself, i also used multiple flushs with water and soap, but after emptying the bottle, and screw back on the tap and left this for a week with closed tap, after opening the tap, you could hear a slightly brease of air/gas escape again, so yes, the gas gets it's way inside the steel itself, and this is also the reason that it is hard for getting away of the gas odor when using it as a air tank. Before drilling / cutting or welding on these gas bottles, i filled up the entire gas bottle with water, and connected a hose to the open tap, and the other end of the hose submersed in a bucket filled with water. Sort of air slot. Then i first welded the parts that i needed, and after welding, i drilled the holes and let the water run out. That way there is 0% chance of a explosion or pop.
A few years later, i used the first bottle that i converted to a compressor tank, to a oil extractor (vacuum by refrigerator compressor) because that bottle had to many holes drilled and extra welds , that i used another gas bottle with less holes and welds as a compressor air tank as safety precaution, because each hole or weld, will weaking the steel on these gas bottles. i have a thirth very smaller gas bottle (12 litres) that is only flushed with water, and this bottle can be filled with compressed air through the original tap with a air quick connect , this small gas botle is more portable and ideal for pumping up car tires etc...
Thanks mate. Couldn't undo the brass top, you showed it was a right hand thread. To hold the bottle I jacked the car up and lowered it onto the bottle, and used a bit of scaffolding on an adjustable. Job done!
Top man, this made me laugh, I'll try dropping a car on it next time
What no video?!
BLOODY BRILLIANT, I plan on making a mini foundry so this video definitely helps
Same
Older tanks will have a sludge-like precipitate still remaining in the bottle after rinsing with water. This sludge contains dissolved flammable compounds that are not water soluble. Use a strong degreasing solvent to remove them. If you haven't ignited sludge yet, it's because you are lucky, not safe.
Top bloke, many thanks. I nearly put myself into orbit, thank god I watched this vid . Lol
Thanks for this.God only knows how many injuries you have prevented.i for one would not done this thanks again.
Nice one, cheers
Turbo Conquering Mega Eagle you are welcome cheers.
WOW. The fact you could see the gas vapors coming out was a huge eye opener for me.
Thanks you very much and you are the man fir showing the gas vapour escaping the tank
I lit me gas gun on site one day,the nozzle was loose....no fringe..no eyebrows... no eyelashes.keep the vids coming TCME
reculvertowers as long as it's bits that grow back later, it's ok!
I like the way your so easy going and your a jolly fella well done!
Cheers my lovely what a nice comment!
I watched your video and have to say I am glad I looked on Y-Tube last week and I saw a guy taking the valve off he used a cold chisel and a hammer,before then I had tried to use a ratchet strap to hold the bottle on the bench,but I have to say the hammer and chisel was so much easier,I then filled the bottle with water left it for a few day's Allan
Good timing as usual buddy. I'm getting ready to cut open an old bottle of empty Nitrogen and use is as a crucible for a furnace that I am going to make out of an ancient stainless steel beer keg. I was just gonna give the black dude down the street $10 to cut it open for me and set up a video camera and watch from a distance, but I guess I'll just save my money and fill it up with water instead.
Don't waste your time man. Nitrogen is not at all flamable, you might have problems with nitrous oxide tho.
Dang. Good to know. Some welder guy in the neighborhood gave it to me and did not tell me that. I guess I should have done my googlein. Thanks.
I've just started chopping up a 35ib co2 to make a long forge, they are chuncky old bottles, twice the thickness of the propane bottle in this video so it'll make a nice crucible.
Check out Brian Ottroge or GrunBlau not sure what his TH-cam channel is. He made a pretty cool furnace out of a beer keg. He's quite technical though. I just happened to have an old beer keg laying around. Not sure I am gonna follow his routine, but I am gonna build one eventually. I'll probably follow your method on the insulating and whatnot.
Vigil Ante what the guy being black have to do with the story you’re telling? Just wondering
gas shadow was perfect...grinder at night you must be popular 😆..
ever thought of making a bench cannon? their legal here no power limit either..
gas bottle+ballvalve+barral+bike track/stirup pump or cheapo compressor..
large bottle at only 5 bar will put a huge smile on ya face with the damage it'll do ! 🙂👍🏻
I have to hide that video from my colleagues as they may want to give it a try. The video was entertaining and nothing blew up! Fortunately I have a valving machine and don't have to resort to jumping on the pipe wrench.
Eliminating' risk's what's kept me happy. -former para sgt. 82nd abn. 72018
Afternoon matey!, great vid ( same method i used to use....when i was more mobile!) It works a treat. This reminded me of a time, when one of my mates decided not to take any notice of anyone and depressure a beer keg!, the type lager/ pump beers come in, it had been sitting half full for years, outside and in the sun sometimes...it was starting to bulge a bit, he wanted to cut in half for a portable bbq, he just found the biggest screwdriver he had and just hit it as hard as he could with a lump hammer, right in the middle of the valve on the top!!, everyone got covered, even though i was covered in rancid lager, i was laughing my arse off, as he had the full force of it, in his mouth and up his nose!!. Keep up the good work. All the best.
Excellent job Mr Mega Eagle, that bottom would make great fire pit!
Thanks good job,,,a suggestion could u not stick a metal bar,,or a piece of wood through the holes on the bottom ,an will stop bottle from turning when you takeoff the nut
Health and safety advice from TCME 😂.
Dr Death what the fuck are you trying to say mate? I wrote the book on how to cut corners and not die too badly
Great stuff Turbo. I have a small heavy refillable type camping bottle that I wanted to cut to make a pot for melting lead. I started a few times but chickened out. I am starting to learn from my many mistakes :-) It is great to watch someone who knows what they are doing... failing that I watch you you madman :-)
vinniesdayoff how much lead are you trying to melt? Obviously I expect you are 10 times stronger than the average man but you are going to struggle pouring a gas bottle full of lead, small powder fire extinguishers are good for crucibles, you'd actually be able to lift it. The people that service our extinguishers at work give me all the old ones as they'd otherwise have to pay to dump them.
This gas bottle is about 4 inches across the bottom and about 7 inches high. It is the size of a big camping gas can. It seems to be good heavy metal though. It would be fairly small by the time the sloped shoulders were cut away. Good tip about the extinguishers, thank you.
vinniesdayoff can't remember how long ago I saw something that small and reusable, think my dad had a camping lantern that used something like that back in the early 90's
I'm intrigued as to what you are going to make, quite excited I might be seeing you hunt wild boar with a sling?
I wish we had wild boar Turbo! No, I just cast my own lead pirks and use them on mackerel feathers
Ah, I'm praying you have a tight line my friend, we've been hit with restrictions this year so I won't be bothering this year.
love that your grinding with shorts on im just as bad lol
You truly are a turbo man !!! Thanks for the video
Alex Onder my pleasure!
Great video thanks. I have three old bottles i didn't know what to do with. Looking at making a chiminea out of one. Assumed filling it with water might work but you've confirmed it for me more thanks 👍
I did this, I left the collar on and slid a long bar through before laying it down. Stoos the bottle rotating. I suppose you could do the same on holes in base. And I had enough room for a large adjustable like this. - those cut bases would make good fire bowls 👍
Put a long pipe through those holes in the bottom of the tank to keep it from turning
that's some dynamic risk assessment
Nice one Geez... Old school I see, angle grinding in ya shorts. Love it.
Astounding how much gas was left in it!
Stuart Gunn I'm just surprised at how a clear gas can have a shadow
I imagined if you screwed the valve off any residual gas would come shooting out at speed. I have a bottle but no bottle to attempt the job😂 loved the video you’re like an English version of the crazy Russian hacker👍
I wish you can do a cool experiment,
That’ll be sucking out the air pressure in the cylinder until it implodes
Fluid and dynamic :) love it
Would this be okay to weld after this many thanks in advance?
Some gas bottle UFC going on. I was pissing myself when you say your danger fluid. As allways keep up the good work and have a cracking weekend mate.
jimbarbwe1985 I'm like the rock at the top of the waterfall, danger flows straight over the top......
Hope you had an earth leakage detector on that grinder power circuit.. Mains voltage and water can make things exciting otherwise..
i open valve then remove the tap innards and the filler screw turn upside down drill a hole on base then light it up after about 5 mins of sitting, burn it off it's fun lol water works too it's great for displacement
How to safely cut a gas bottle open then stands there in shorts, no glasses or hearing protection whilst using an angle grinder 🤣🤣
Tbf alot of people do that, myself included - the main thing is it's safe enough not to blow your head clean off 😂 👍. I think I'd at least pop some safety glasses on.
This video is very helpful and informative thank u so much my friend!
Top advice, mega bollocks.
I figured water fill would be the way forward, this confirms it.
What's the wall thickness of them ?
Cool seeing the vapour 😀
Well done very helpful vid, thank you.
Thank you
good stuff mate
wow goood video Thx Ed Loretto Ontario Canada
Extremely helpful, thank you.
Thanks for the tip , I going to make indoor fire place with a 48 kg tanks cheers from South Africa
You are very good fighting that tank valve, I would use hammer to crack it first.
Great video mate. Your a funny bugger lol 😂
Put a stick in the ground through the bottom handles to stop the bottle rotating! :)
Where did you buy that wrench, my brother?
Great video but for the love of Mike, get some safety glasses. My stomach lurches every time I see you grinding without them. You can replace bits of finger mate but you only get one go at having two eyes.
thanks man brilliant safety tip ...
is the valve just lefty looosy righty tighty - not a left hand thread or something special ?
Yeah it's lefty looosy, it's tapered so once you get it backed off half a turn it comes out really easy but getting it started takes some effort.
Go through these comments, a bunch of people have come up with some really clever ways of getting it off.
@@turboconqueringmegaeagle9006 Well - I hit it with a bolster and mallet and it come right off safety glasses of on top of my head - Can you tel me if a basic cheap mig welder would do the job on welding this up.?
@@Chris-tx9ou nice one, 120 amp should just about do it.
The calor bottles are zink plated or dipped so just make sure you clean it up well otherwise it'll give you a dirty headache.
Brilliant thanks for your help!!
I wonder if the train drivers going past every think "noisy B'Stard!"
That bottom off the tank would make a fire pit possibly....
The only thing missing is him smoking while doing this.
Lay half a 3X3 fence post either size of the bottle on the ground to stop it rolling.
Cool channel!. Just stumbled upon it tonight 👍 You could help eliminate the risk further again by booting that spanner on grass instead of stones! Had final destination type visions of seeing a spark ⚡️😁👍
Still smells a bit mind!! Great job turbo! Xxxx
Loved it! Like wrestling a croc!
Proper job, subscribed 😎
Nice one I think you and I are similar in that we may take the odd 'risk'. Sort of calculated. But your incident with the gas bottle could have been painful - grinder cuts are very nasty and don''t take prisoners. I have exactly the same project with a large bottle so I am going to copy what you did. In daylight hours though.........Cheers..
Had a tipple?
What a plonker! Well done Rodney.
Can I used this same method for the blue 13kg butane bottles?
Yes, but getting to the valve is harder because the collar/handle is normally welded on, what I normally do is cut it off with a reciprocating saw just so I can get clearance to use a big tool on the valve.
Filling with water to make it safe will work just as well on butane as propane.
Brilliant will try that
Thank fuck I seen this was going to butcher one tomorrow aswell😂 cheers mate
What if you got an air pocket? Then you got a pop plus water equals missile or worse steam explosion.its best to flush it out a few times and fill it full of sand before you cut it. Great video though i like your style 👍
I heard the gas can still hide in between the sand particles so i would just flush it out like 3 times and then cut her open at night.
Nice1 mate
Gas vapour thing was bit scary to think there was that much!
What is this 1989?
Wedge a 2x4 on bottom stick it in a wheel or tree
Only filling it about half way up then pouring it out Don't Work i found that out.
woden20 did you have to change your pants afterwards?
Had to find them first lol
Great vid.
Why did you do it at night? No near neighbours I hope.
Red vanman full time job and a growing family my friend, just getting free time is a blessing regardless of the time of day! Nearest neighbor is 1/4 mile away.
How thick are the walls on a gas cylinder?
2.5mm - 3/32" on these big bottles, the smaller bottles are thinner and the disposable bottles are down to around 1-1.5 mm
Thanks. Great info. Is a small one the same?
No. In the smaller ones you have to use Pepsi
Been trying to figure away to cut a lpg tank that came out my van guna try it over xmas lol
I've had a gas bottle flash on me, bloody wakes you up! 😂😂😂😂
Benspeed's Channel yes it does! A few more gray hairs every time something like that happens
You can evacuate it before refilling
get a rachet strap and two large lengths of wood.S trap to tank, instant fulcrum!
People like using wrenches the wrong way,
Risking ur eyeballs... Crazy
Safety first people. Always wear shorts when using a grinder!
honest review safety shmafety! I like the way that this guy works, health & safety has gone mad.
Fuck mate you've never said no to a pint am I right? 🤣
Taking those valves off is a b*tch! I broke a wrench on one and then ran over it with my car, just kidding about the car. Thanks for the video.
Hey mate, I also fill them with water. One extra thing I do is drill maybe 4 holes around the valve or anywhere I will discard. My logic is this way any residual gas has somewhere to escape, so far so good.
Good idea, nice smoker by the way, excited to see your future builds
@@turboconqueringmegaeagle9006 Thanks mate I love what you make. I'll post a vid soon I'm making what I'm calling a turtle grill/smoker.
Nice one ..am subscribe
would you sell any mate
I'm always using them so don't want to sell them but i normally find them free on Facebook marketplace and free cycle, people don't know how else to get rid of them and give them away
you could ratchet strap the bottle to some pole or something unmovable, before taking so much effort to unscrew that bloody thing
First2ner it would have taken twice as long to find something to strap it too!
@@turboconqueringmegaeagle9006 Jam a stick between the base holes to stop it from rolling.
From what I can see, on the bottom of the bottle, insert Some kind of steel flat bar through one of the slots and out of the slot opposite, this SHOULD (won’t definitely work) but should stop the bottle from turning!
I’m going to cut my first bottle open tomorrow so I’ll let you know how it goes!
Of for fucks sake.... yeah, what the guy above me just said