Hey Everyone I messed up the width over the inserts at 1:32 - Sizing. It should instead be Front Reference: 27.0 Front Set Back 26.5 Back Reference 26.8 Back Set Back 27.5
Stoked how much you enjoyed this board. I had so much more fun on it last season than I was expecting. Still need to set it all the way back for a pow day and leave the 'Cuda on the wall (if i can get myself to). You summed this thing up perfectly.
I'm stoked your stoked that I was stoked ;-) Thanks for the good words and it's really fun to ride it that way when it's deep. I had fun turning on groomers that way too for a little change up. I straight up bought this and can't wait to ride it again this year on my personal days.
Hello, amazing videos and reviews. Have been following a long time and appreciate your thoroughness. Want to pick your brain about the united shapes cadet vs the Korua Otto as a one board quiver. What would be the differences between the two in your opinion?
Demoed a Cadet last year. I also loved it immediately and bought it and the Deep Reach. Cadet is a great all-mountain, pow-focused deck. The Deep Reach is the beset pow board I've ever tried. I highly recommend you try a Deep Reach in some deep pow if you get the chance.
It feels on the medium side vs. the medium/stiff tip to tail flex. Horizon review coming soon. I have comparisons on Patreon and YT members here. www.patreon.com/thegoodride but softer and feels less directional. Better if you ride switch more or like a more centered ride.
I am 6'0, 220lbs, size 11 shoe, looking to purchase my first snowboard. Your review is exactly the kind of board I'm looking for. Would the 162 be a good option for me??
Any chance you've tried a Bataleon beyond medals? Very similar shape with setbacks but I'd be interested to know the early rise vs full camber 3d shaping.
Yes and I have my early take on Patreon here www.patreon.com/thegoodride or for YT members. Review's coming in a week or 2 but liked the Cadet much better for all conditions riding. Especially in powder and harder snow. The Beyond Medals had the pop and was really fun in good conditions but sketchy in hard snow.
Don't get Mini Disc bindings. I mentioned this in the review. You won't be able to use the set back inserts and then it won't float like I described in pow. So definitely no on the Falcor. The Katana Pro can work on the set back inserts but you can't adjust your stance width. Get something with full size discs like the Union Force, Force Classic or Atlas or other Brands that have full size discs.
Great review! I’m really interested in buying this snowboard. I’m size 9.5 boots, 160 lbs, and 6’. Should I get the 158 or the 154? I have a warpig in 152 and a nitro team pro for 155. Thanks!
Thank you for the review. I'm looking to purchase this as my first snowboard. I'm size 9 in boots, 152 lbs, and 5'9''. Would 154 be a good size for me?
Really depends on your riding style. If you can only have one board that can act like 2 go Cadet. Or if you like a more tapered/directional/set back daily driver go Powgoda.
This is everything I wanted the Stratos to be. It is more damp/much better in uneven snow and has more set back on board/better pow float. In smooth but hard snow the Stratos grips better and has a more fluid/better turning experience in powder/soft snow but I like the Cadet a lot better. If Jones made the Stratos with different construction/more dampening properties it would be really close and they would both be favorites but as it stands it chatters, bucks and bounces too much in even moderate uneven snow.
@vincew4527 no prob. Nope. It feels like its own ride. Its closer to the Stratos vs the two but its like 2 boards. On reference its like an all mtn board. In powder it feels like a very directional/set back freeride board. If you need advice hit me here if you want to know if this works for you. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
@@thegoodridesnow 😂I love that ! I in France and I always hallucinating how fast are the answer when I sent a message to a youtube channel based in US. 95% of the times, those in France never ask...But here, it's an another level as you ask for money to chat about gear or giving advices. I understand it takes somes times for you but asking money for that...I never saw that before ! That's America 😉 Thanks again for your time and your answer .
I'm hesitating between this and the Capita aeronaut for a one board quiver to do everything (carving, powder, Park) when travelling. I tend to go towards the Capita because i have 11us size boot but only weigh 150 lbs so 156w seems perfect. The United Shape seems really good though and i like the minimalist style, do you think the 158 would be wide enough (i have Burton kendo 11us) ?
@@thegoodridesnow i'm 5'10, expert level currently living in Québec. I ride a Capita indoor 55w 22/23 most of the time, i love how dynamic and nimble the board is and so playfull at the same time, perfect for days mixed between Park and slopes. On ice or if i only want to ride groomers i ride my gnu Gremlin 55w. Strong carver, hold so well but feel quite boaty and heavy sometimes. And for the occasional powder days here i ride a GNU Nuzoid 55. I also have a Capita Scott Stevens 57 for jibbing and end of the season wet snow.
Depends on bindings and specs. If you fit the Cadet and have full size discs for sure do that. If you have mini-discs go Shadowban. If you want to get into it more and do this right, hit me here to give me the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
Yes. Rode the Deep Reach 156 on groomers and a little pow. Got the 162 in some pretty deep somewhat light Mt. Bachelor low angle pow. The review is coming but might be a little while. Have a few more in the que ahead of it. I liked it in powder and thought I would like all that camber on groomers but it took a lot of back leg weight to keep the tail from washing with the way's I had it set up at +27/+9 and then +18/+3. Neither helped and I felt rear leg burn on groomers. In pow though, it felt exactly the opposite.
Looking at getting a Cadet and curious what size would be best for me? I'm 145 lbs and size 8 US boot. I am leaning towards the 154 but worry if the 257 mm waist is too wide for my boot size.
So it really depends on what make/model/year/size board you ride now. If you are used to a board a similar length but narrower waist you should be ok. For me it was super weird. I'm riding the 158 (Size 9, 190lbs, 5'10") and the 26cm waist feels like its 25.4cm. I don't know what they are doing outside of the posted specs (specs often lie) but I haven't yet felt like I'm on a wide board. Even in uneven snow or tight spots which is usually where a wider board starts to fatigue guys with our boot size.
I would say the Strata is comparable, So is the Jones Flagship to a lesser extent. Amplid Souly Griail, Stranda Descender, Burton Hometown Hero, Nidecker Megalight and Ultralight. Not really the Standard or Hybrid. You can always filter by "Freeride" and then use the comparison tool on The Good Ride to really get into it. thegoodride.com/snowboard-reviews/?mens=1
@@thegoodridesnow that's funny you mentioned the megalight as being comparable, i have a cadet and a megalight, they're very similar although the megalight isn't as stiff. I bought the megalight a few cm longer and in a wide for the really deep days. Cheers!
Hi Biesty, great review, as always. But could it be that you have accidentally mixed up some of the specs? You stated the width of the Front insert ref stance as 26.8 cm, which sounds correct. But the width at the Set Back Front Insert doesn't sound logical at 27.0 cm, as snowboards get naarrower towards the waist. With the rear inserts, on the other hand, it is surprising that the Back insert at ref stance is stated as 26.3 cm, but a few centimeters behind it on the Set Back Back Insert is 27.6 cm, which would mean a difference of +1.3 cm. I could imagine that the Set Back Front Insert width of 27.0 cm was mistaken for the Back insert at ref stance width of 26.3 cm. That would be more logical, at least in terms of the usual specs of a board. Sounds pretty nitty gritty, but in practice it makes a big difference for me, as 26.3 cm on the back insert ref stance would be too narrow for me, whereas 27.0 cm would be perfect (0.7 cm is a full boot size). Could you please measure again? Thx!
Ah shit! I didn't type it in correctly! Thanks for catching that. It should be Front Reference: 27.0 Front Set Back 26.5 Back Reference 26.8 Back Set Back 27.5
Hey Everyone I messed up the width over the inserts at 1:32 - Sizing. It should instead be
Front Reference: 27.0
Front Set Back 26.5
Back Reference 26.8
Back Set Back 27.5
I rode the Cadet at a demo day last season and loved it! I even bought one and rode one spring day on it. Looking forward to next season.
@@RustySnowboarder your vids were part of my research and bought this Board, too🤩🤩
@@toodles420 That's wild. I don't know much but I know the Cadet seems to work for me.
Stoked how much you enjoyed this board. I had so much more fun on it last season than I was expecting. Still need to set it all the way back for a pow day and leave the 'Cuda on the wall (if i can get myself to). You summed this thing up perfectly.
I'm stoked your stoked that I was stoked ;-) Thanks for the good words and it's really fun to ride it that way when it's deep. I had fun turning on groomers that way too for a little change up. I straight up bought this and can't wait to ride it again this year on my personal days.
Awesome review! 🤙
Hello, amazing videos and reviews. Have been following a long time and appreciate your thoroughness. Want to pick your brain about the united shapes cadet vs the Korua Otto as a one board quiver. What would be the differences between the two in your opinion?
Thanks! Two great boards. Go Otto for a little more speed and carving power. Go Cadet for easier float.
Reminds me of the K2 Eldorado can you front foot this board ?
Demoed a Cadet last year. I also loved it immediately and bought it and the Deep Reach. Cadet is a great all-mountain, pow-focused deck. The Deep Reach is the beset pow board I've ever tried. I highly recommend you try a Deep Reach in some deep pow if you get the chance.
Thanks for your take. I did get the Deep Reach in Deep Pow and the review is coming.
Did you prefer the force or atlas on this board?
Force.
Will you be reviewing the jones tweaker pro? 🙏🏼
Didn't get on it. They didn't have one to send.
Hi, thanks for the review. Can I ask how’s the torsional flex got this please.
And how’s the horizon compared to this?
It feels on the medium side vs. the medium/stiff tip to tail flex. Horizon review coming soon. I have comparisons on Patreon and YT members here. www.patreon.com/thegoodride but softer and feels less directional. Better if you ride switch more or like a more centered ride.
What is the stance width when you’re using the setback pow inserts?
6:34
I am 6'0, 220lbs, size 11 shoe, looking to purchase my first snowboard. Your review is exactly the kind of board I'm looking for. Would the 162 be a good option for me??
Thanks. Yeah that's a good size for you and what I would have recommended.
Any chance you've tried a Bataleon beyond medals? Very similar shape with setbacks but I'd be interested to know the early rise vs full camber 3d shaping.
Yes and I have my early take on Patreon here www.patreon.com/thegoodride or for YT members. Review's coming in a week or 2 but liked the Cadet much better for all conditions riding. Especially in powder and harder snow. The Beyond Medals had the pop and was really fun in good conditions but sketchy in hard snow.
Hello. What bindings do you recommend for this board? Union Falcor/Rome Katana Pro or something else?
Don't get Mini Disc bindings. I mentioned this in the review. You won't be able to use the set back inserts and then it won't float like I described in pow. So definitely no on the Falcor. The Katana Pro can work on the set back inserts but you can't adjust your stance width. Get something with full size discs like the Union Force, Force Classic or Atlas or other Brands that have full size discs.
@@thegoodridesnowThanks👍
Great review! I’m really interested in buying this snowboard. I’m size 9.5 boots, 160 lbs, and 6’. Should I get the 158 or the 154? I have a warpig in 152 and a nitro team pro for 155. Thanks!
Thanks! I think based on what you wrote you might like the 158 a good bit better.
Hyper-specific question - If you had to choose between this and the Korua Otto what would you go for?
For me. Cadet just because of the easier/quicker turn initiation for my specs and extra set back but it could be the exact opposite for you.
Thank you for the review. I'm looking to purchase this as my first snowboard. I'm size 9 in boots, 152 lbs, and 5'9''. Would 154 be a good size for me?
The 154 matches well with your specs.
Again - thanks for these smaller brand reviews! So - imagine a beautiful day dumped more than a foot the night before - do you grab Powgoda or Cadet?
Really depends on your riding style. If you can only have one board that can act like 2 go Cadet. Or if you like a more tapered/directional/set back daily driver go Powgoda.
HI, how does it compare to the Jones stratos as it seems they are close? Thanks
This is everything I wanted the Stratos to be. It is more damp/much better in uneven snow and has more set back on board/better pow float. In smooth but hard snow the Stratos grips better and has a more fluid/better turning experience in powder/soft snow but I like the Cadet a lot better. If Jones made the Stratos with different construction/more dampening properties it would be really close and they would both be favorites but as it stands it chatters, bucks and bounces too much in even moderate uneven snow.
@@thegoodridesnow Thank you for your quicke answer ! So, does the cadet feel more like the korua otto?
@vincew4527 no prob. Nope. It feels like its own ride. Its closer to the Stratos vs the two but its like 2 boards. On reference its like an all mtn board. In powder it feels like a very directional/set back freeride board. If you need advice hit me here if you want to know if this works for you. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
@@thegoodridesnow 😂I love that ! I in France and I always hallucinating how fast are the answer when I sent a message to a youtube channel based in US. 95% of the times, those in France never ask...But here, it's an another level as you ask for money to chat about gear or giving advices. I understand it takes somes times for you but asking money for that...I never saw that before ! That's America 😉 Thanks again for your time and your answer .
Ha! That doesn't happen all the time but thanks!
I'm hesitating between this and the Capita aeronaut for a one board quiver to do everything (carving, powder, Park) when travelling. I tend to go towards the Capita because i have 11us size boot but only weigh 150 lbs so 156w seems perfect. The United Shape seems really good though and i like the minimalist style, do you think the 158 would be wide enough (i have Burton kendo 11us) ?
How tall are you and what make/model/size/year board do you ride now and how do you like it?
@@thegoodridesnow i'm 5'10, expert level currently living in Québec. I ride a Capita indoor 55w 22/23 most of the time, i love how dynamic and nimble the board is and so playfull at the same time, perfect for days mixed between Park and slopes. On ice or if i only want to ride groomers i ride my gnu Gremlin 55w. Strong carver, hold so well but feel quite boaty and heavy sometimes. And for the occasional powder days here i ride a GNU Nuzoid 55. I also have a Capita Scott Stevens 57 for jibbing and end of the season wet snow.
Also i dont buy from brands that produce in China, preferably US or Europe.
I like the Aeronaut 156w better for your spcs.
@@thegoodridesnow thanks for the reply !
How does this compare to the OTTO+? Thanks.
Pretty different rides. Cadet is more directional anf way more set back on board. Initiates turns faster. I like how the Otto carves better though.
Hi James , shadowban or cadet ?intermediate level , no jibbing , small jumps and mostly carving , thx !
I have a 23 custom camber for daily ride 😊
Depends on bindings and specs. If you fit the Cadet and have full size discs for sure do that. If you have mini-discs go Shadowban. If you want to get into it more and do this right, hit me here to give me the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
@@thegoodridesnowthx again James , enjoy your reviews as always ❤
Great review man! Did you get on the Deep reach at all? I have the cadet from 2021 and love it.
Yes. Rode the Deep Reach 156 on groomers and a little pow. Got the 162 in some pretty deep somewhat light Mt. Bachelor low angle pow. The review is coming but might be a little while. Have a few more in the que ahead of it. I liked it in powder and thought I would like all that camber on groomers but it took a lot of back leg weight to keep the tail from washing with the way's I had it set up at +27/+9 and then +18/+3. Neither helped and I felt rear leg burn on groomers. In pow though, it felt exactly the opposite.
@@thegoodridesnow Thanks James. Interesting.. I guess it’s a powder first/groomer second kinda board. Looks sick for Japan though!
Looking at getting a Cadet and curious what size would be best for me? I'm 145 lbs and size 8 US boot. I am leaning towards the 154 but worry if the 257 mm waist is too wide for my boot size.
Height?
@@thegoodridesnow 5'8
So it really depends on what make/model/year/size board you ride now. If you are used to a board a similar length but narrower waist you should be ok. For me it was super weird. I'm riding the 158 (Size 9, 190lbs, 5'10") and the 26cm waist feels like its 25.4cm. I don't know what they are doing outside of the posted specs (specs often lie) but I haven't yet felt like I'm on a wide board. Even in uneven snow or tight spots which is usually where a wider board starts to fatigue guys with our boot size.
Did Davey ride this? I’m a size 12 boot 195lbs and wanted to see if the 162 would be an appropriate size without toe or heel drag.
No he didn't. What's your height and what make/model/size year board do you ride now and how do you like it?
Hey Beastie, what would you say are some comparable boards in terms of ride and tree performance? Yes Hybrid? Standard? Love to hear how they compare.
I would say the Strata is comparable, So is the Jones Flagship to a lesser extent. Amplid Souly Griail, Stranda Descender, Burton Hometown Hero, Nidecker Megalight and Ultralight. Not really the Standard or Hybrid.
You can always filter by "Freeride" and then use the comparison tool on The Good Ride to really get into it. thegoodride.com/snowboard-reviews/?mens=1
@@thegoodridesnow that's funny you mentioned the megalight as being comparable, i have a cadet and a megalight, they're very similar although the megalight isn't as stiff. I bought the megalight a few cm longer and in a wide for the really deep days. Cheers!
@simplecatify thanks for your take.
Hi Biesty, great review, as always. But could it be that you have accidentally mixed up some of the specs? You stated the width of the Front insert ref stance as 26.8 cm, which sounds correct. But the width at the Set Back Front Insert doesn't sound logical at 27.0 cm, as snowboards get naarrower towards the waist. With the rear inserts, on the other hand, it is surprising that the Back insert at ref stance is stated as 26.3 cm, but a few centimeters behind it on the Set Back Back Insert is 27.6 cm, which would mean a difference of +1.3 cm. I could imagine that the Set Back Front Insert width of 27.0 cm was mistaken for the Back insert at ref stance width of 26.3 cm. That would be more logical, at least in terms of the usual specs of a board. Sounds pretty nitty gritty, but in practice it makes a big difference for me, as 26.3 cm on the back insert ref stance would be too narrow for me, whereas 27.0 cm would be perfect (0.7 cm is a full boot size). Could you please measure again? Thx!
Ah shit! I didn't type it in correctly! Thanks for catching that.
It should be
Front Reference: 27.0
Front Set Back 26.5
Back Reference 26.8
Back Set Back 27.5