I have never touched Final Fantasy XIV pvp What important things should i know as a newcomer to pvp? Also I've got specific questions of my own. -Does your job Level effect pvp? (Can i play as a monk on pvp even if my job level in general for it is level 10 atm?) -do job skills in pvp work differently in PvP? Any pvp only skills? -How is the matchmaking for PvP? Must you have a specific role you wanna play equipped before queing for pvp? (Like you would any PvP dutys) -How is PvP set up? In terms of Roles and Job classes? -lastly, do you all know of an up to date video guide i can watch that will help me in understanding and getting into pvp as a beginner?
Everything about FFXIV PVP changed with the patch that came out this morning. In general, your PVE level does not matter as long as you have a job stone (i.e. lv 30+). You do need to queue as the class you want to play, but restrictions on being in a party and roles change with what kind of PVP you're doing (ranked/casual/custom). I'd suggest looking up the patch notes on the Lodestone for PVP class changes bc everyone is coming in with a blank slate now.
1) You have to be level 30 on a job to use it for PvP, but from there level doesn't matter. 2) Job skills are very different in PvP. Hell, they aren't even the same skills. You can test out your PvP kit in the Wolves Den in La Noscea, where you unlock the new PvP mode, and I would definitely suggest doing so before you queue up. 3) You queue in as a specific job and then you stay that job for the battle, just like in PvE. 4) PvP is role unlocked, so one team can have 5 DPS and the other could be 5 Healers. I would say that having at least one of each role is useful, because healing is very strong and Tanks are great at holding territory/CC 5) I don't know if there are any guides right now because PvP was completely overhauled just today (from the main mode all the way to each Job's skills). That being said, everyone is new because so much has changed! I would just jump in there and try it out! In terms of other tips, don't neglect your common PvP actions, particularly Recuperate, Guard, and Purify. Recuperate is an instant heal, and you'll want to use it whenever your health is around 50%. It's the only thing that costs mana, so you can think of mana as your heal gauge. Guard reduces damage taken by 90% but ends if you use another action, and is great to use if the enemy is focusing on you. Purify removes crowd control on you and blocks any more crowd control on you for five seconds, and is necessary as most classes have some kind of disable. Other than that, as long as you read your abilities, you'll be fine!
No they're not that skill needs to be removed. It literally does more damage than most classes have hp there's nothing you can do it's not fair. It would be op if it was single target....
@@lushen952 It only does 100% damage if you've got the debuff from hitting a SAM while they have their 3sec guard buff on. And even then a barrier can save you from getting one-shot.
@@Deuzen_FIN With how glamorous skill effects are it's almost impossible to react to this. Even if YOU do they will very easily at least get one person on your team to not react and then you're in a 4v5 and lose the team fight. The fact that it's an aoe is what makes an already broken skill just absolutely stupid. MAC's ult which is regarded as one of the best does like 1/4 of the damage... Maybe several months in at the very highest ranking we see people start to react to it in time but not in the first week and never gold and below. Look at overwatch's one shot ultimates. Diva throws out a ginormous bomb that you can see ticking for like 5 seconds from anywhere in the map and makes a huge sound effect. Even in silver lobbies people will easily avoid this and without combing ults (which is where this game fails) it is more just useful to get them to turn their shield away. At the very least they should slow it down and show an aoe circle...or make it single target...or reduce the damage....any of these would make it slightly op not gamebreaking. For at least several months samurai are just going to advance based on their ult alone all the way up to the very highest tier. It is by far the most unbalanced.
@@lushen952 Zantetsuken's potency against non-counter targets is 24k, same as Monk's Meteodrive against an unguarded target. Dragoon's Sky Shatter has a higher potency of 30k within 5y of impact point (same radius as Zantetsuken). Reaper's Shroud Combo also adds to a total of 30k. Machinist's LB is 36k potency. Ninja can insta-kill several opponents under 50% HP ignoring shields. All of these are instant casts and thus equally impossible to see coming. The data does not appear to support your argument.
@@Deuzen_FIN DRG has to jump and cant come down immediately. You can guard while they are up. MCH is single target. NIN is pretty strong I gotta say, since they can use it again if it kills. SAM say “fuck your guard” since it ignores it
@@unloyal4847 well, I guess you all could que up at the same time and hope all 8 of you get into the same game, but there is no official way to play Crystalline Conflict with friends in a party. Which I find really dumb, atleased in casual. I understand it being restricted in ranked tho.
The PvP mode is absolutely incredible! ...So long as you are playing unranked. Winning or losing depending on whether you have a team who actually understands how team fights work and that pushing the objective is what wins games, not the amount of kills you have, is really annoying and tilting when trying to rank up. I agree, the system is absolutely amazing for unranked. But the game NEEDS a team queue.
I do not agree at all. One good player can seriously tilt the odds in your favor with how small the teams are. I’ve had times all four of my guys were dead and survived against their whole team until my guys made it back and we pushed them back and won. It’s a fast paced fun mode where player skill actually means something unlike frontlines lol.
Not true at all ^^ as u could see in this video, the samurai for example could kill the full enemy team by himself ^^ if you are decent enough, u can single-handedly win it by ur self =w= just work on your own gameplay "as an old school pvper myself in ff14" we don't need partie Qs
I've played only Pally so far and there are times where my team just REFUSES to die haha They may be almost pure support but yknow what I'm fine with that
This mode is so addicting as its enough time to enjoy the match but not enough to get tilted, I've never played a 12 hour long session before that I'm not SALTY at the end of it but either just mildy annoyed or overly satified. The skill revamp even made Frontline enjoyable than before. KUDOS to them for making these changes.
It does have some issues when you get to gold and above. People can be a bit too tanky and tank classes like warrior can be really OP because they just play in a way that everyone targets them and then they have like 3x the survivability. Because solo queue is a thing you can't really get your team to not target the tank when they're being aggressive or even if you do there won't be a consensus on who to go after. Some people try to tag who to go for but it rarely helps because it changes constantly and a lot of times the rest of the team will see something different. People need to stop tagging all the time - only tag someone if you know they're low on healing util don't tag someone when they're full hp and have all their healing it doesn't help. I do think machinist and white mage are a bit overrated right now. Machinists ult is actually not that amazing it only does like 1/4 hp pool - very overrated. White Mage is really good on paper however too dependent off cooldowns to be effective most of the time. Additionally something about being the healer makes everyone want to target you and that gives them an advantage because they'll have natural consensus. Samurai is dumb. He can literally one shot most with his ultimate and I believe it's on an aoe. It's not fair. But warrior is by far the most OP. Dark knight as well.
I agree. My friend in the fC and i did a dual and he as a reaper beat me. Yet i did a dual a friend from a previous fc i was in, so it was Monk vs Dancer and it was intense but I won! You jusy need to know well ya abilities when to use them. aside that, enjoy pvp!!
@@etiennekordalski2081 it doesnt come close to wow pvp, dont talk nonsense just because you dont like the game for some reason, and your getting one shooted if you cant manage your defensive cooldowns, no surprise, I can one shoot now in ff on my dragoon easly too every game around 11 kills
Better but worst, what is this statement? Btw mmo PvP isn’t technically PvP since you can just win trading or just make ppl look bad and disrespect the game at the result. Why New World die? Why WoW die? Why Albion and GW2 don’t get more ppl to get interested in PvP outside of giving you the pressure and privilege to be toxic? Where is the sportmanship and validation? Aside, FF isn’t known for PvP and the community is much different from other games. If you give them a true PvP experience, ppl just gonna leave because of toxicity in it. That’s why they disable chat right now and you can grouping in ranked to do things that being unwanted guesses
I really enjoyed the new mode but it need a huge fix. Yesterday it was awesome 1 tank me. 1 healer and 3 dps both side. Today 1 tank still me 4 dps on other side 2 tanks 1 healer 2 dps or 2 healers 1 tank 2 dps. That is just ridiculous and people are already throwing because of the unfair matchmaking and they don't leave the spawnpoint so it will be over faster
composition doesn't really matter that much as far as I could tell so far. Healers can heal sure and Tanks are tankier, but they dont do as much damage as a good DPS. And everyone can heal themselves, or Guard.
It honestly blows my mind- the fact this game is still alive.. When it was first out, I wrote it off because I couldn't fathom how well a FF title cold adapt its mechanics to multiplayer after 11 left a sour taste. 11 wasn't bad I just got into it too late to be able to pvp well among seasoned players so it wasn't worth continuing to subscribe. Kudos to the FF XIV community though for being pretty stoic on that front lol I admire the community alot for that
I must say, Yoshi-P has done it again. He's pulled off another ARR, this time to PvP. Much impressed.
Holy crap that looks fun! (Biased bc I’m a SMN main lol)
SMN fr SLAAAPS in Crystal- even more so with a good team. They done did us some justice 😭🙏🏽
As a SMR AST main I’m inlove lol
I wonder if PvP is active after the patch.. I used to wait in hour long queues for PvP XD
This looks FUN
Wow this looks like Overwatch + DotA/LoL mode. Looks Fun!
Instantly thought this as well, push the pay load kind of map
I have never touched Final Fantasy XIV pvp
What important things should i know as a newcomer to pvp?
Also I've got specific questions of my own.
-Does your job Level effect pvp? (Can i play as a monk on pvp even if my job level in general for it is level 10 atm?)
-do job skills in pvp work differently in PvP? Any pvp only skills?
-How is the matchmaking for PvP? Must you have a specific role you wanna play equipped before queing for pvp? (Like you would any PvP dutys)
-How is PvP set up? In terms of Roles and Job classes?
-lastly, do you all know of an up to date video guide i can watch that will help me in understanding and getting into pvp as a beginner?
Everything about FFXIV PVP changed with the patch that came out this morning. In general, your PVE level does not matter as long as you have a job stone (i.e. lv 30+). You do need to queue as the class you want to play, but restrictions on being in a party and roles change with what kind of PVP you're doing (ranked/casual/custom). I'd suggest looking up the patch notes on the Lodestone for PVP class changes bc everyone is coming in with a blank slate now.
1) You have to be level 30 on a job to use it for PvP, but from there level doesn't matter.
2) Job skills are very different in PvP. Hell, they aren't even the same skills. You can test out your PvP kit in the Wolves Den in La Noscea, where you unlock the new PvP mode, and I would definitely suggest doing so before you queue up.
3) You queue in as a specific job and then you stay that job for the battle, just like in PvE.
4) PvP is role unlocked, so one team can have 5 DPS and the other could be 5 Healers. I would say that having at least one of each role is useful, because healing is very strong and Tanks are great at holding territory/CC
5) I don't know if there are any guides right now because PvP was completely overhauled just today (from the main mode all the way to each Job's skills). That being said, everyone is new because so much has changed! I would just jump in there and try it out!
In terms of other tips, don't neglect your common PvP actions, particularly Recuperate, Guard, and Purify. Recuperate is an instant heal, and you'll want to use it whenever your health is around 50%. It's the only thing that costs mana, so you can think of mana as your heal gauge. Guard reduces damage taken by 90% but ends if you use another action, and is great to use if the enemy is focusing on you. Purify removes crowd control on you and blocks any more crowd control on you for five seconds, and is necessary as most classes have some kind of disable.
Other than that, as long as you read your abilities, you'll be fine!
The important thing you should know as a newcomer to PvP is keep not doing PvP. This isn't even a joke, don't do it, it's so bad.
4:14 4:35 Those SAM triple-kills with Zantetsuken are just beautiful to see.
No they're not that skill needs to be removed. It literally does more damage than most classes have hp there's nothing you can do it's not fair.
It would be op if it was single target....
@@lushen952 It only does 100% damage if you've got the debuff from hitting a SAM while they have their 3sec guard buff on. And even then a barrier can save you from getting one-shot.
@@Deuzen_FIN With how glamorous skill effects are it's almost impossible to react to this. Even if YOU do they will very easily at least get one person on your team to not react and then you're in a 4v5 and lose the team fight. The fact that it's an aoe is what makes an already broken skill just absolutely stupid. MAC's ult which is regarded as one of the best does like 1/4 of the damage...
Maybe several months in at the very highest ranking we see people start to react to it in time but not in the first week and never gold and below.
Look at overwatch's one shot ultimates. Diva throws out a ginormous bomb that you can see ticking for like 5 seconds from anywhere in the map and makes a huge sound effect. Even in silver lobbies people will easily avoid this and without combing ults (which is where this game fails) it is more just useful to get them to turn their shield away. At the very least they should slow it down and show an aoe circle...or make it single target...or reduce the damage....any of these would make it slightly op not gamebreaking.
For at least several months samurai are just going to advance based on their ult alone all the way up to the very highest tier. It is by far the most unbalanced.
@@lushen952 Zantetsuken's potency against non-counter targets is 24k, same as Monk's Meteodrive against an unguarded target. Dragoon's Sky Shatter has a higher potency of 30k within 5y of impact point (same radius as Zantetsuken).
Reaper's Shroud Combo also adds to a total of 30k.
Machinist's LB is 36k potency.
Ninja can insta-kill several opponents under 50% HP ignoring shields.
All of these are instant casts and thus equally impossible to see coming.
The data does not appear to support your argument.
@@Deuzen_FIN DRG has to jump and cant come down immediately. You can guard while they are up. MCH is single target. NIN is pretty strong I gotta say, since they can use it again if it kills. SAM say “fuck your guard” since it ignores it
Im just a bit sad that you cant que with your friends on ranking but I think ot makes sense otherwise the non friend group would get stommped lol
They should add a pre-made only mode.
You should able to with just casual, idk why they wouldn't atleased allow that?
@@keanubredenkamp3776 i heard for casual youd need a whole 8 to be able to do casual right?
@@unloyal4847 well, I guess you all could que up at the same time and hope all 8 of you get into the same game, but there is no official way to play Crystalline Conflict with friends in a party.
Which I find really dumb, atleased in casual.
I understand it being restricted in ranked tho.
The PvP mode is absolutely incredible! ...So long as you are playing unranked.
Winning or losing depending on whether you have a team who actually understands how team fights work and that pushing the objective is what wins games, not the amount of kills you have, is really annoying and tilting when trying to rank up.
I agree, the system is absolutely amazing for unranked. But the game NEEDS a team queue.
team rank and solo rank queue would do wonders for this.
I do not agree at all. One good player can seriously tilt the odds in your favor with how small the teams are. I’ve had times all four of my guys were dead and survived against their whole team until my guys made it back and we pushed them back and won. It’s a fast paced fun mode where player skill actually means something unlike frontlines lol.
Not true at all ^^
as u could see in this video, the samurai for example could kill the full enemy team by himself ^^
if you are decent enough, u can single-handedly win it by ur self =w=
just work on your own gameplay "as an old school pvper myself in ff14" we don't need partie Qs
How do you have it set so that the cross hotbar only displays when you press triggers?
You turn the Crossbar off in the HUD layout. They will only appear when you press them.
I've played only Pally so far and there are times where my team just REFUSES to die haha
They may be almost pure support but yknow what I'm fine with that
Love that they use FF9 music 🙏🏻😍
Yes, yes it is, my friend.
This mode is so addicting as its enough time to enjoy the match but not enough to get tilted, I've never played a 12 hour long session before that I'm not SALTY at the end of it but either just mildy annoyed or overly satified. The skill revamp even made Frontline enjoyable than before. KUDOS to them for making these changes.
Played a couple times (busy with msg and alliance and they are good too) but was such fun I’ll spend much time there
It does have some issues when you get to gold and above. People can be a bit too tanky and tank classes like warrior can be really OP because they just play in a way that everyone targets them and then they have like 3x the survivability. Because solo queue is a thing you can't really get your team to not target the tank when they're being aggressive or even if you do there won't be a consensus on who to go after. Some people try to tag who to go for but it rarely helps because it changes constantly and a lot of times the rest of the team will see something different. People need to stop tagging all the time - only tag someone if you know they're low on healing util don't tag someone when they're full hp and have all their healing it doesn't help.
I do think machinist and white mage are a bit overrated right now. Machinists ult is actually not that amazing it only does like 1/4 hp pool - very overrated.
White Mage is really good on paper however too dependent off cooldowns to be effective most of the time. Additionally something about being the healer makes everyone want to target you and that gives them an advantage because they'll have natural consensus.
Samurai is dumb. He can literally one shot most with his ultimate and I believe it's on an aoe. It's not fair.
But warrior is by far the most OP. Dark knight as well.
Wow this PVP looks really fun
frontlines is pure chaos but fun
It's so weird to see a video with a friend in it on youtube lol. I was like... I know that elf lol.
reaper gonna go crazy here
After 6hrs of fighting them- i can say, yes. Yes they do- but MNK and SAM go APE SHT!!
I agree. My friend in the fC and i did a dual and he as a reaper beat me. Yet i did a dual a friend from a previous fc i was in, so it was Monk vs Dancer and it was intense but I won! You jusy need to know well ya abilities when to use them. aside that, enjoy pvp!!
This is without a doubt the best Pvp update and mode the game has received so far.
nice
I wouldnt say its near god tier, still the worst pvp in all of mmos i played, but its so mutch better and pretty fun now
Atleast it is better then the shitshow pvp in Wow with god mode druids one shot killshot mages and overal totally out of balance pvp system
@@etiennekordalski2081 it doesnt come close to wow pvp, dont talk nonsense just because you dont like the game for some reason, and your getting one shooted if you cant manage your defensive cooldowns, no surprise, I can one shoot now in ff on my dragoon easly too every game around 11 kills
Better but worst, what is this statement?
Btw mmo PvP isn’t technically PvP since you can just win trading or just make ppl look bad and disrespect the game at the result. Why New World die? Why WoW die? Why Albion and GW2 don’t get more ppl to get interested in PvP outside of giving you the pressure and privilege to be toxic? Where is the sportmanship and validation?
Aside, FF isn’t known for PvP and the community is much different from other games. If you give them a true PvP experience, ppl just gonna leave because of toxicity in it. That’s why they disable chat right now and you can grouping in ranked to do things that being unwanted guesses
@@dale7326 he just wants to talk shit
I really enjoyed the new mode but it need a huge fix. Yesterday it was awesome 1 tank me. 1 healer and 3 dps both side. Today 1 tank still me 4 dps on other side 2 tanks 1 healer 2 dps or 2 healers 1 tank 2 dps. That is just ridiculous and people are already throwing because of the unfair matchmaking and they don't leave the spawnpoint so it will be over faster
A group of 5 dps can maul a group with tanks and healers. It's simply about how coordinated your team is
@@martidavid1519 too bad we didn't have 5 dps. But i get your point but it still proves my point that it is not balanced
composition doesn't really matter that much as far as I could tell so far. Healers can heal sure and Tanks are tankier, but they dont do as much damage as a good DPS. And everyone can heal themselves, or Guard.
It honestly blows my mind- the fact this game is still alive.. When it was first out, I wrote it off because I couldn't fathom how well a FF title cold adapt its mechanics to multiplayer after 11 left a sour taste. 11 wasn't bad I just got into it too late to be able to pvp well among seasoned players so it wasn't worth continuing to subscribe. Kudos to the FF XIV community though for being pretty stoic on that front lol I admire the community alot for that