So 4.0 pre-patch on a parallel build which will convert to the main live build once it's actually stable for a live release. And the current live build is being supported in a "sunset" period. No new content, but in game actions for atrributed rewards can still be completed (save Stanton) and it also serves as a "backup branch" in case the pre-patch catches fire over the holidays. Marketing gets their 4.0, players get to begin making progress post-wipe, last chance for Save Stanton is extended over the holiday, and if 4.0 is an absolute unplayable mess they can just herd people back to a decently playable 3.24 (in comparison to a completely non-working 4.0, if that happens) Honestly, if this is the way they can pacify Marketing's demand to push patches before theyre ready, while also not breaking live for a whole patch cycle by just having a "pre-patch server, " that's 1) 5d chess and I didn't think they had it in them, and 2) what they should have been doing for the past 10 years.
By playing semantics, they can claim that they released 4.0 in 2024, and that development is proceeding exactly on schedule with no problems whatsoever.
This is the best thing they could have done. It's brilliant. I don't care that they are late, i expect that, I'm just glad to see them trying to not repeat mistakes.. that's huge.
LOL.... marketing gets their 4.0. Players who don't want to test EPTU still get 3.24. And everyone else will dip their toes into 4.0 PPTU. When bad things happen to PPTU there will still be 3.24... "We'll always have Paris"
Very well said sir. CIG has become wiser and more mature, and with major tech now implemented, star systems and game content will start to explode (in a good way :)) Btw side note, you have become my no. 1 go to channel for SC news. Keep up the great work.
I think this is a great middleground that was intended to keep players that complained about a possible 3.18 happy. Unfortunately CIG underestimated just how much some people love to hate them.
need some feedback. What group should i earn rep with in pyro. suck at pvp and don't actively do it. But what group gives me most access to the system with good missions?
About factions, Rough and Ready own the stations where you can get fuel in Pyro so it's good to be in good terms with them, unless you got the means to supply yourself. Citizens of New Prosperity are legit colonists, nice dudes if you're a lawful citizen. XenoThreat are a xenophobic, anti-alien and anti-corporate militia, i dunno if are UEEN defectors but own firepower and are politically motivated so are considered terrorists by the UEE. Fire Rats, Headhunters and other gangs are pirates and organized criminals who don't appreciate the attention XenoThreat brings over their businesses, so are at odds with XenoThread.
wtf happened to the spectrum chat? given, I haven't been active in there for awhile but you can't 🦀 in there without the mod deleting and getting his panties in a bunch now. a year ago on patch days, devs and mods would encourage us. kinda sucks the hype and fun out of engaging other players just as excited for an update. 😒
There is also a new version of the RSI launcher out now (version 2.1.1). I recommend you update the launcher now while we wait for the 4.0 update today.
Its a good idea of cig to put both online if one crash the other one could be playable and is great that what you do in pre 4.0 is pregress your rep and all you have done
Pledges are not reading this letter correctly. They strive for stability and persistence. BUT, adding features and content cause a ripple effect to stability. It will always be a problem until this game is complete. Be patient, and we will all win this🎉
Since 4.0 is pretty much all I play in SC it's good to see rep and such will persist through at least the 4.0 cycle once the Live preview drops. I didn't do the last save Stanton mission so I may do that as well. A lot of people would complain about free lunch, but it's the same in most games. I remember people saying Starfield would kill SC, but we all see how that went.
Starefield, the single player game? I didn't pay attention to Star Citizen at the time but I thought it was closer to Mass Effect. I'd think Elite Dangerous is a closer comparison to Star Citizen.
@@4tonmikeElite would be a somewhat closer comparison, but I was referring to people in SC chat, Spectrum and youtube comments saying Starfield would kill SC during the months leading up to the release of Starfield. My comment was primarily a rebuttal to the negative comments in this comment section. People that think SC is a scam or over-monetized or whatever should give World of Warships or worse yet World of Tanks a try, lol.
@@luvit579 War Thunder is pretty cool too Actually Genshin Impact is absolutely nuts with the monetization. I admit that Star Citizen's macro transactions are honest and you can exchange for store cash. If only they hadn't chosen ships to start with there wouldn't be the stain, of pay to win allegations, hindsight 20/20 etc.
I appreciate their honesty. Let it cook, please no more 3.18 schism experiences. I would sacrifice all of my funds and just walk away forever if it's allowed to avoid shift l anither 3.18 experience.
Awesome decision. They need an official 4.0 release to land as well as possible to generate some positivity and prove to both skeptics and those still unsold on the concept of the game how serious they are about the open development.
How does this do either? It's clearly not going to land as well as possible, when they have to give everyone the fall back to 3.24 when it breaks. When it breaks, it's just going to add further justification for the skeptics. CIG is close to putting out a stable build, but it clearly needs more time in the PTU than what they're willing to give it. We're talking weeks, not years. This decision is being driven by marketing. Very bad marketing.
@kilozulu2413 what marketing decision is that? The decision to not have the official launch yet because it's not ready or the decision to have a launch preview so people that want to test and progress in 4.0 in it's current state can and are not forced to?
they just chucked the match om the bonfire and went on holiday again only this time instead of having one bomb fire to contend with over the holidays we will have two
On my books, I want more polish and gameplay to call it a game (hopefully the new 1.0 milestone). They are not sure yet that they are done with needed wipes ( though, now they can revert to backup check points). I would keep the expectations low, especially when advertising it to other people, who are not familiar. But I am excited. It's the only game I'm a regular.
4.0 seems to work better than the live build as of right now. Not everything is implemented but the game runs awesome. Why play 3.24.3? Pyro is going to keep rep and achievements from this point on.
4.0 will make 3.18 look like a fully working game by comparison, and CIG doing this is the bare minimum needed to meet the 2024 release to save face with the backers, but use the 'preview' title to hide behind when it inevitably crashes and burns.
They dont care about the Backers, its the Investors they are trying to appease, they can and will pull the plug if they dont see what they want by April 2025.
Great way of doing it IMO, however it also shows it's not near a release state and it will probably only be ironed out between March and May given CIG is only coming back from holidays in Feb I think? On a side note, love your contente Foxy but where are you hearing these rumours about people getting ships that will be account bound? From what I've seen from other youtubers, the ships are a cutty black, syulen, F8C and another I can't remember but lets be honest, so you really think CIG will give for FREE a ship that has limited sale and costs £300 to thousands of players? 🤦🏻♂️ I haven't pledged for those ships but I can't imagine the thousands that have pledged for them being happy. At best, you'll have them as if in game purchased which will disappear after a wipe and we know there will be another one eventually. Peace ✌🏻
As excited as I am about being able to play 4.0 the whole narrative driven content focus is a big mistake. This game will flourish the more it leans into its identity as a sandbox... Not narrative. We need more tools for emergent player cooperation, not more cargo missions.
Sounds like they expect 4.0 to bomb and want that fallback 'alternate reality" for players to fall back on during the holidays when they're home gaming. The "new way of doing things" sounds like the way they've been told to do things all along but they refused to listen. Now if only they'd listen and not release the "big releases" with the "big events" with the "free fly" all together as they usually do.
@@secretweapon7764 oh its gonna be a mess I can see it happening like 3.18 where atc didn't work no one could call ships and overall was just a shit show but I'm all for it tbh
So basically they lied yet again about getting something released. If game loops are not working in preview, why would anyone want to play it? So far since logging in to preview, all I've seen is complaints and negativity. Same CiG I guess.
I'm not going to play 3.23 because it's all gett8ng wiped (which is a very good thing). I'm not going to play 4.0 because it's not ready. I will spend my time on something else for now, and I bet a lot of other people feel sort of like I do.
This sounds like they're giving people a chance to still get the rewards from the Stanton missions in 3.23.4 until the end of the year, or whenever they decide to close out 3.23.4. Other than that, I don't see any perks for remaining in 3.23.4 when 4.0 comes out.
Imaging eg a car company saying: we understand that our today product is bad but here is finally the successor, but as we know it is bad too, we offer you the old product in parallel. Come on that is the most ridicules story I ever heard
You really believe what they’re telling you. I will believe it when I play it. Without bugs and crashes. Star citizen is officially dead and unplayable.
Way to cover your ass, Chris. This isn’t a victory. It’s a pacification. Again, Chris can’t do what he promised so he is placating us by creating a second PTU and giving it a different name. What bullshit. Any other company in any other business would fail with these type of business practices.
For people waiting for a game. Its only STATIC server meshing not DYNAMIC server meshing, lag and performance issues are still present if not worse, and there are still no gameplay loops to give you a goal or reason to play. Conclusion: nothing to look forward yet keep waiting.
Cleaning up an oil spill is the perfect analogy, especially given the massive financial incentives for them to be like "nahh, we'll get to it when we get to it, once we get our 80000% profit margins"
I mean, a panel just on bug fixes and "this is how we did it" sounds really boring tbh. They did that before, that was the whole bugsmashers show they ran and, although it was interesting at first, I think the reason it hasn't returned is that, for the most part, I don't think people are that interested in watching a 10 minute video or so, going over how they fixed the bugs of a certain thing when they can focus on things that progress the game and actually set up expectations for what this game even is
I can understand it's not for everyone, but as a computer engineer -looking to work in the industry-, I really liked the in-depth technical view. And people do these shows in their extra time, like they do the interviews, so it does not distract them from their actual work (or they skipped some episodes when they worked overtime)
@@JamesSarantidis Of course, I was speaking in a generalized term and I don't wish to speak against those who enjoyed them. I'm not a games dev, but I do enjoy understanding the process of games development, ups and downs. I am simply speculating as to why they may not revisit bugsmashers or a bug fix focused panel at citizencon, focusing on a general audience. So don't misunderstand that I'm not saying those who enjoy those episodes can't enjoy them, of course not, I'm just thinking the reason we don't see such things currently is that the dedicating episodes weren't terrible popular. I can imagine maybe having them more as shorts or small sections of ISC for maybe prominant bugs, I just don't see it coming back anytime soon, but I could be wrong, depending on how many want it to return
This is so stupid. Don't play 3.23.4 because its going to get wiped when 4.0 actually works. Don't play 4.0 because it is incomplete and does not work. Its released but not released - enjoy another test server. Hahaha. End of the year joke.
So anything done is 3.24.3 is wiped as expected. But the 4.0 since its not live proper, will also not be saved... Ok what point is there for me to play at all?
Did you not read the letter? Any progress from the 4.0 Preview will be retained once 4.0 actually hits Live. Barring any major issues. Only 3.X progress is getting wiped at that point.
@ yea, the only thing that really is diffrent is the server meshing and the amt of people playing it is wat really makes me think it shouldn’t b too bad (hopefully) we did have 3.18 ptu for like wat 5 months? So not a lot of players were playing it
They have substantial bugs still in 4.0, and currently no idea how to fix them. They're hoping that by relabeling it as a variant "LIVE" they can trick people into trying an EPTU (not even stable enough to be called PTU) build. I'm sure they'll also use this "new way of doing things" as a way to proclaim that they delivered 4.0 to LIVE in 2024.
What an absolute clown show. What do you do when you promised the community 4.0 in 2024, but it still isn't good enough for live? Call the PTU a PU server. Ta da. Oh Foxy, I admire your optimism. They didn't say anything new. They changed "go/no-go" to "red light/green light" and told us that the roadmap is more useless than ever. :)
This is just lazy, just so they can say they released 4.0 like they said they would. Hopefully it will works out, but the smarter things would have been to push it off and release a more feature complete release.
It is a shame that they have limited faith in the 4.0 build. Will the auec and acquired inventory and ships carry over into 4.0. This is confusing. I am very concerned with this mess. I have been play4.0 and it was a bit better. I hope it works in a satisfactory way.
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I feel like 3.24.3 live is like an insurance, if the 4.0 goes bad over the holidays. Good shout IMO.
Head of the nail ;) Yup
even if it would go south i have many other games to be in, it's not like my life will disintegrate because game in making has it's challenges
Honestly, great plan. They don’t want another 3.18
This is the wisest solution. I'm actually surprised. Maybe they learned from 3.18 after all.
So 4.0 pre-patch on a parallel build which will convert to the main live build once it's actually stable for a live release. And the current live build is being supported in a "sunset" period. No new content, but in game actions for atrributed rewards can still be completed (save Stanton) and it also serves as a "backup branch" in case the pre-patch catches fire over the holidays.
Marketing gets their 4.0, players get to begin making progress post-wipe, last chance for Save Stanton is extended over the holiday, and if 4.0 is an absolute unplayable mess they can just herd people back to a decently playable 3.24 (in comparison to a completely non-working 4.0, if that happens)
Honestly, if this is the way they can pacify Marketing's demand to push patches before theyre ready, while also not breaking live for a whole patch cycle by just having a "pre-patch server, " that's 1) 5d chess and I didn't think they had it in them, and 2) what they should have been doing for the past 10 years.
Schrodinger's 4.0 - it's kinda released, but at the same time it isn't.
It is fully live….
By playing semantics, they can claim that they released 4.0 in 2024, and that development is proceeding exactly on schedule with no problems whatsoever.
@@SpaceDad42 fully live, so missions are working?
lol
@@SolarWindsRiderlmao they don’t even work on live so by your thinking yes … it is live
This is an interesting way of doing it. Im actually happy as if it turns into a dumpster fire like 3.18 we can go back to 3.24
Appreciate the quick updates. Keep it up! o7
This is the best thing they could have done. It's brilliant. I don't care that they are late, i expect that, I'm just glad to see them trying to not repeat mistakes.. that's huge.
despite 4.0 being a mess, nothing is worse than 3.24.3 .... so yeah, there you go.
That's comforting, lol.
LOL.... marketing gets their 4.0. Players who don't want to test EPTU still get 3.24. And everyone else will dip their toes into 4.0 PPTU. When bad things happen to PPTU there will still be 3.24... "We'll always have Paris"
Bring forth the 4.0iING!
I bet 1 million aUEC that 4.0 will be wiped
I'll see your 1mil and raise you 10 mil. I'll pay you when 4.0 hits
Is in the patch note about the wipe, yes fresh start for all.
Very well said sir. CIG has become wiser and more mature, and with major tech now implemented, star systems and game content will start to explode (in a good way :))
Btw side note, you have become my no. 1 go to channel for SC news. Keep up the great work.
Finally! been waiting for this for ages.
Nothing special about it. Still empty and boring.
@@SpaceDad42 I been having a blast. you sound fun at parties.
love this guys energy
I think this is a great middleground that was intended to keep players that complained about a possible 3.18 happy. Unfortunately CIG underestimated just how much some people love to hate them.
I’ll see you out there foxy! 😎
3.24 PvE server, 4.0 PvP server. Looks like everyone is getting what they want.
They might as well make it that way going forward
100% False.
You kinda sound like a CareBear afraid of a fight.
4.0 is the same protections and lawlessness.
@@xBloodXGusherx
Lame insults by another poor soul starving for attention. 😂
@xBloodXGusherx you kinda sound like a murder hobo preying on Aurora's heading to Tressler... settle down
What you said doesn’t make any sense
need some feedback. What group should i earn rep with in pyro. suck at pvp and don't actively do it. But what group gives me most access to the system with good missions?
About factions, Rough and Ready own the stations where you can get fuel in Pyro so it's good to be in good terms with them, unless you got the means to supply yourself.
Citizens of New Prosperity are legit colonists, nice dudes if you're a lawful citizen.
XenoThreat are a xenophobic, anti-alien and anti-corporate militia, i dunno if are UEEN defectors but own firepower and are politically motivated so are considered terrorists by the UEE.
Fire Rats, Headhunters and other gangs are pirates and organized criminals who don't appreciate the attention XenoThreat brings over their businesses, so are at odds with XenoThread.
Will this 4.0 be a wipe they are releasing?
Yes, full clean slate.
Wait, they expect that people will actually play 3.24..... lmao
its a fallback in case the 4.0 goes kaput
@jmick8 er 3.24 is kaput lol
people will finish save stanton phase 1
It is likely that 4.0 will become unplayable. If that happens then yes, people will play 3.24.
@@jmick8 "In case?" ;)
wtf happened to the spectrum chat? given, I haven't been active in there for awhile but you can't 🦀 in there without the mod deleting and getting his panties in a bunch now. a year ago on patch days, devs and mods would encourage us. kinda sucks the hype and fun out of engaging other players just as excited for an update. 😒
What source says 12 from the post? I’m just curious
They're doing a canary release of 4.0 while they're away for multiple weeks. Most mature release move ever by CIG!
There is also a new version of the RSI launcher out now (version 2.1.1). I recommend you update the launcher now while we wait for the 4.0 update today.
lol 3.24.3 has "high playability standard"? I've given up on the current live version
With some mission types being disabled, which missions are going to be available in 4.0?
Holidays, Good Food with Family and Playing Star Citizen with Friends! That is GREAT!
Its a good idea of cig to put both online if one crash the other one could be playable and is great that what you do in pre 4.0 is pregress your rep and all you have done
This was a smart way to release.
Pledges are not reading this letter correctly. They strive for stability and persistence. BUT, adding features and content cause a ripple effect to stability. It will always be a problem until this game is complete. Be patient, and we will all win this🎉
I guess it’s better than dumping another 3.18 on us and going on vacation for a month
What about the Save Stanton mission? This is not a proper 4.0 release...
Since 4.0 is pretty much all I play in SC it's good to see rep and such will persist through at least the 4.0 cycle once the Live preview drops. I didn't do the last save Stanton mission so I may do that as well. A lot of people would complain about free lunch, but it's the same in most games. I remember people saying Starfield would kill SC, but we all see how that went.
Starefield, the single player game? I didn't pay attention to Star Citizen at the time but I thought it was closer to Mass Effect. I'd think Elite Dangerous is a closer comparison to Star Citizen.
@@4tonmikeElite would be a somewhat closer comparison, but I was referring to people in SC chat, Spectrum and youtube comments saying Starfield would kill SC during the months leading up to the release of Starfield. My comment was primarily a rebuttal to the negative comments in this comment section. People that think SC is a scam or over-monetized or whatever should give World of Warships or worse yet World of Tanks a try, lol.
@@luvit579 War Thunder is pretty cool too
Actually Genshin Impact is absolutely nuts with the monetization. I admit that Star Citizen's macro transactions are honest and you can exchange for store cash.
If only they hadn't chosen ships to start with there wouldn't be the stain, of pay to win allegations, hindsight 20/20 etc.
I appreciate their honesty. Let it cook, please no more 3.18 schism experiences. I would sacrifice all of my funds and just walk away forever if it's allowed to avoid shift l anither 3.18 experience.
Awesome decision. They need an official 4.0 release to land as well as possible to generate some positivity and prove to both skeptics and those still unsold on the concept of the game how serious they are about the open development.
How does this do either? It's clearly not going to land as well as possible, when they have to give everyone the fall back to 3.24 when it breaks. When it breaks, it's just going to add further justification for the skeptics. CIG is close to putting out a stable build, but it clearly needs more time in the PTU than what they're willing to give it. We're talking weeks, not years. This decision is being driven by marketing. Very bad marketing.
@@kilozulu2413
New ship to buy though. Store Citizen never fails 😅
@kilozulu2413 what marketing decision is that? The decision to not have the official launch yet because it's not ready or the decision to have a launch preview so people that want to test and progress in 4.0 in it's current state can and are not forced to?
they just chucked the match om the bonfire and went on holiday again only this time instead of having one bomb fire to contend with over the holidays we will have two
Only one, the current 3.24 is pretty stable
What missions are not working in 4.0?
All
@@flogozgeik1898 XD
All of them
Narcotic bunker missions are out :(
So after 10+ years they’ve adopted standard development practices.
Who the hell is gonna play .24.3
So it's a quantum state wipe; it depends on which universe you're observing
I always said from 4.0 on Sc wil becoming a game!.
Why isnt it then?
On my books, I want more polish and gameplay to call it a game (hopefully the new 1.0 milestone). They are not sure yet that they are done with needed wipes ( though, now they can revert to backup check points). I would keep the expectations low, especially when advertising it to other people, who are not familiar. But I am excited. It's the only game I'm a regular.
sooo where is the wipe? its not live YET.. still says EPTU ? ^^
so from what discord says 3.24 server will stay the same the preview will has the clean start
4.0 isn't released yet. It's still EPTU because CIG hasn't pushed the Live-Preview for it yet they said "Late US Time"
if 4.0 breaks, they better transfer the Guardian to 3.24.3
4.0 seems to work better than the live build as of right now. Not everything is implemented but the game runs awesome. Why play 3.24.3? Pyro is going to keep rep and achievements from this point on.
thanks
4.0 will make 3.18 look like a fully working game by comparison, and CIG doing this is the bare minimum needed to meet the 2024 release to save face with the backers, but use the 'preview' title to hide behind when it inevitably crashes and burns.
I've been expecting a dumpster fire all along. I do have to say that I jumped into 4.0 in the PTU and it was *good. I am not expecting a 3.18.
They dont care about the Backers, its the Investors they are trying to appease, they can and will pull the plug if they dont see what they want by April 2025.
Great way of doing it IMO, however it also shows it's not near a release state and it will probably only be ironed out between March and May given CIG is only coming back from holidays in Feb I think?
On a side note, love your contente Foxy but where are you hearing these rumours about people getting ships that will be account bound? From what I've seen from other youtubers, the ships are a cutty black, syulen, F8C and another I can't remember but lets be honest, so you really think CIG will give for FREE a ship that has limited sale and costs £300 to thousands of players? 🤦🏻♂️ I haven't pledged for those ships but I can't imagine the thousands that have pledged for them being happy. At best, you'll have them as if in game purchased which will disappear after a wipe and we know there will be another one eventually.
Peace ✌🏻
As excited as I am about being able to play 4.0 the whole narrative driven content focus is a big mistake. This game will flourish the more it leans into its identity as a sandbox... Not narrative. We need more tools for emergent player cooperation, not more cargo missions.
Interesting solution
Sounds like they expect 4.0 to bomb and want that fallback 'alternate reality" for players to fall back on during the holidays when they're home gaming. The "new way of doing things" sounds like the way they've been told to do things all along but they refused to listen. Now if only they'd listen and not release the "big releases" with the "big events" with the "free fly" all together as they usually do.
yeah agreed
Developers cringe at the idea of releasing a new build at the same time as an event. Only marketers and executives think it is a good idea.
@@secretweapon7764 oh its gonna be a mess I can see it happening like 3.18 where atc didn't work no one could call ships and overall was just a shit show but I'm all for it tbh
So basically they lied yet again about getting something released. If game loops are not working in preview, why would anyone want to play it? So far since logging in to preview, all I've seen is complaints and negativity. Same CiG I guess.
see you in pyro 🙏please dont shoot me 😁
good enough IMO
I'm not going to play 3.23 because it's all gett8ng wiped (which is a very good thing). I'm not going to play 4.0 because it's not ready. I will spend my time on something else for now, and I bet a lot of other people feel sort of like I do.
It is horrible in live rn, I do agree
Put your money where your mouth is Chris, like in Field of Dreams, "If you build it, they will come". Don't talk about it, be about it
Thank you Cpt_Foxyloxy on clearing that up.
WRONG, 4.0 is not on PU yet, only PREVIEW
This sounds like they're giving people a chance to still get the rewards from the Stanton missions in 3.23.4 until the end of the year, or whenever they decide to close out 3.23.4. Other than that, I don't see any perks for remaining in 3.23.4 when 4.0 comes out.
4 years in the wait and they still cant finish squat…..
Incorrect. They finish loads of multi-hundred dollar spaceships to sell to idiots and content creators.
Do we know if Save Stanton is still completable? I was hoping to help a friend finish it this weekend
It will remain up all holidays in 3.24
@@rasta77-x7o Awesome thank you!
I want to believe.
"Depreciated?"
Sheldon Cooper's younger self, would be cheering it on from a sitcom near you!
Star Citizen MULTIVERSE!!!
Imaging eg a car company saying: we understand that our today product is bad but here is finally the successor, but as we know it is bad too, we offer you the old product in parallel.
Come on that is the most ridicules story I ever heard
No bug has ever been fixed, it just goes away for a little while. The PU is a joke.
Star Citizen Multiverse 4.0
marketing strikes again, great piece of text.
They make it durty😂😮
You really believe what they’re telling you. I will believe it when I play it. Without bugs and crashes. Star citizen is officially dead and unplayable.
It is live….
No game kicks you in the balls and amazes you at the same time. None
Way to cover your ass, Chris. This isn’t a victory. It’s a pacification. Again, Chris can’t do what he promised so he is placating us by creating a second PTU and giving it a different name. What bullshit. Any other company in any other business would fail with these type of business practices.
This is just to sell the damn ship lol if cig is saying some stuff doesn't work that means most things don't work
I made a post earlier today saying the guardian ship sale waits for no man. The gods have spoken lol
@cornervillain838 Gibsit
For people waiting for a game.
Its only STATIC server meshing not DYNAMIC server meshing, lag and performance issues are still present if not worse, and there are still no gameplay loops to give you a goal or reason to play.
Conclusion: nothing to look forward yet keep waiting.
Cleaning up an oil spill is the perfect analogy, especially given the massive financial incentives for them to be like "nahh, we'll get to it when we get to it, once we get our 80000% profit margins"
Low IQ comment
First
Edit: couldn’t help it. Finally got the chance to do it for once
lol...Thank you!
I bet it feels amazing
@@poposterous236 it truly does. My life is complete
cig admits that they failed to deliver 4.0, even in its stripped down form.
clever ploy... they know practically no one will bother with 3.24.3
I’m just surprised to hear they have standards.
Good to know that the current state of star citizen gameplay is their "standard"
I mean, a panel just on bug fixes and "this is how we did it" sounds really boring tbh. They did that before, that was the whole bugsmashers show they ran and, although it was interesting at first, I think the reason it hasn't returned is that, for the most part, I don't think people are that interested in watching a 10 minute video or so, going over how they fixed the bugs of a certain thing when they can focus on things that progress the game and actually set up expectations for what this game even is
I can understand it's not for everyone, but as a computer engineer -looking to work in the industry-, I really liked the in-depth technical view. And people do these shows in their extra time, like they do the interviews, so it does not distract them from their actual work (or they skipped some episodes when they worked overtime)
@@JamesSarantidis Of course, I was speaking in a generalized term and I don't wish to speak against those who enjoyed them. I'm not a games dev, but I do enjoy understanding the process of games development, ups and downs. I am simply speculating as to why they may not revisit bugsmashers or a bug fix focused panel at citizencon, focusing on a general audience. So don't misunderstand that I'm not saying those who enjoy those episodes can't enjoy them, of course not, I'm just thinking the reason we don't see such things currently is that the dedicating episodes weren't terrible popular. I can imagine maybe having them more as shorts or small sections of ISC for maybe prominant bugs, I just don't see it coming back anytime soon, but I could be wrong, depending on how many want it to return
This is so stupid.
Don't play 3.23.4 because its going to get wiped when 4.0 actually works.
Don't play 4.0 because it is incomplete and does not work.
Its released but not released - enjoy another test server. Hahaha. End of the year joke.
So anything done is 3.24.3 is wiped as expected. But the 4.0 since its not live proper, will also not be saved...
Ok what point is there for me to play at all?
Did you not read the letter? Any progress from the 4.0 Preview will be retained once 4.0 actually hits Live. Barring any major issues. Only 3.X progress is getting wiped at that point.
@@spiller280It was only written down and spoken aloud.
@@spiller280 ok thanks
Love how they still don't give an exact time
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Year 12: This is just the beginning 😂
First time experiencing game development? =]
@@ShevaiAsan for a lot of their senior devs, yes!
Their "goal" is to let you keep everything. But, their track record is to just delete everything.
So we lost engineering and fire, for a patch which has still missed its deadline on account of the missions not working?!
unless the actual game play loops are in the game and the game is stable new players probably are not going to be joining the verse anytime soon
I just think they gotta pull the plug and go straight to 4.0
And then imagine a 3.18 scenario while they are on hiatus until the end of January. 3.18 was running fine in PTU too
@ yea, the only thing that really is diffrent is the server meshing and the amt of people playing it is wat really makes me think it shouldn’t b too bad (hopefully) we did have 3.18 ptu for like wat 5 months? So not a lot of players were playing it
please give me a 3.22 version of this so i can play without ugly UI missing infos and mastermess.
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And they can't get elevators to work consistently? Oh man, this should be fun :\
What the eff did i just read.
Did they fix the hornet mounts in 4.0?
I don’t know why anyone would waste time with 3.23 with 4.0 offered. I know they are trying to avoid a 3.18 disaster
They have substantial bugs still in 4.0, and currently no idea how to fix them. They're hoping that by relabeling it as a variant "LIVE" they can trick people into trying an EPTU (not even stable enough to be called PTU) build.
I'm sure they'll also use this "new way of doing things" as a way to proclaim that they delivered 4.0 to LIVE in 2024.
What an absolute clown show. What do you do when you promised the community 4.0 in 2024, but it still isn't good enough for live? Call the PTU a PU server. Ta da. Oh Foxy, I admire your optimism. They didn't say anything new. They changed "go/no-go" to "red light/green light" and told us that the roadmap is more useless than ever. :)
It’s called the preview channel
Jeah...congrats that yiu woke up and realize cig is dumb fuc. we allready know this for years...
Only clown here is the one judging and crying about an alpha state game 😂😂😂😂
I've felt they needed to do this, since calling it "a service".
This is just lazy, just so they can say they released 4.0 like they said they would. Hopefully it will works out, but the smarter things would have been to push it off and release a more feature complete release.
It is a shame that they have limited faith in the 4.0 build. Will the auec and acquired inventory and ships carry over into 4.0. This is confusing. I am very concerned with this mess. I have been play4.0 and it was a bit better. I hope it works in a satisfactory way.
Seems the harder they try...the greater the failure.