Depends entirely on the year, for instance the year brady got hurt 11-5 wasn't good enough to make the playoffs, additionally the NFC north has been weak as it has the Lions and Bears in it.
See, this guy actually knows football. All the analysis guys talk about is stats. I love to watch Cowherd's face when Mark brings up the fact that Miami's ypc are only so high because of a few good runs
If Brady retired. Brady and Rodgers are in their own category of QBs, but against the best defenses Brady is better(see Seattle vs both of them in 2014, Rodgers 1 TD, Brady 4, see Atlanta last year. Brady record yardage despite the first half looking much like Atlanta vs Rodgers, but then Brady came back).
Brady's numbers drop because he's an immobile QB for the most part and he plays outdoors most of the time. Put him in a dome and he'd have even more records
It doesn't matter about inside or outside it matters about the field NE has always had a smooth track better for wr to make cuts and rbs to as well it's less beneficial to defenses.
nah there are the elements to deal with as well. Wet footballs, frozen hands, windy conditions.... none of that happens in a dome. His stats in domes are better then they are in Foxborro.
I think our offense is great honestly... Just dont know about Hundley, and he plays well in the 4th Quarter only it seems like. Jordy and Davante are really good, Aaron Jones and Jamaal Williams are really good. We have a young and very injured O Line. Our defense has some pretty good players, just not a really good scheme and alot of injuries. Also our pass rush kinda sucks.
With Rodgers 9 or 10 + wins, without Rodgers 3 or 4 wins? With Peyton 10+ win seasons (more so 12+) without Peyton 2 wins With Brady 12+ win seasons without Brady 11 wins
M Poly patriots went 16 and 0 the year before and were basically the same the following year when Brady went down.The pats would not win 11 games if Brady was hurt at the start of the year
That's cool. Brady (cool under pressure) has been a great immobile QB just like Peyton (he chokes). I'm more of a Rodgers guy. I think he has it all. Patriots from top to bottom are the BEST. owner, coach, qb, smart as players. They are just a great franchise all around.
M Poly What about the Broncos going 5-2 when they benched Manning for stinking up the joint??? All the Colts needed was a DECENT QB coming out of college. As soon as Luck took over, they went 11-5 three years in a row.
DiabloSpiritus Talk about Cherry picking stats. Manning with the Broncos was done as a qb by that time after he got hurt again, he was never the same and you know it. The year before he threw for most TDs in a season. The Colts got Luck after Peyton couldn't play and they won 2 games without manning to secure that pick so nice try. Manning was great but a choke artist in Post season play, if he didn't play well while with the Colts then they don't win.
Completely agree, we get that the giants want to lose out to get the number 2 pick but don't put in Geno Smith! Geno sucks and that's just disrespectful to Eli. Start David Webb, your 3rd round 2017 draft pick and see what he's got! If he sucks then you get what you wanted and if he's good you may have a future QB
The craziest part if the Eli benching story is them starting Geno Smith instead. As a jets fan it is particularly hilarious. Although with our luck he will somehow win the starting job against their top pick QB and lead them into the playoffs
The one flaw in this "logic" is tht... More than ever, this is a QB driven league. You have to have at least marginal talent at the backup QB position. Dont tell me the Colts/Packers never had talent on the field bcuz their GMs punted on backup QB. Worse for TT since u shld knw mobile QB comes w risk. Case Keenum isnt magic but hes playing decent enough to keep the Vikings afloat. Im in Hou, if he were playing like he did here? We wldnt b talking abt the Vikings this season and Texans would have made a playoff run tht yr. Rodgers and Manning are great but dont give them god status bcuz the guys tht came in to play were Painter and Huntley. Dont believe either had ever taken a reg season snap in their CAREERS. Lazy analyses to ignore the competency of the guy replacing ur starter for tht season. It matters... A LOT.
I call BS on schlereth having major surgery and playing the next day. If it was a true major surgery, he wouldnt be able to...Someone needs to tell him what "major surgery" means.
"Very serious back injury and was back in the lineup in 27 days." I don't care if you're that guy or god, you're not recovering from a MAJOR back injury and returning is less than a month, you'll be lucky to be walking.
Noah Castro well he isn't wrong, but the road the will be very tough. We'd need Falcons to lose out and packers not to lose another game (assuming he comes back this season).
Jimmy Her you gonna need more than just Atlanta to lose out to get in. There’s a bunch of teams ahead of you plus some of those teams own the tiebreaker
I am a Packers fan so take that into thought. But I knew Aaron Rodgers was literally the whole Packers team. Everyone should know that, the only reason why they made the NFC championship game last year is because of him. The secondary is so bad for the packers but Aaron usually outplays the other offense and finds ways to win games. They need a better defense. End of story Ted needs to draft more defense.
Mark Schlereth (just an opinion from what my eyes see) seems like one of those military drill instructor type guys that tries to make weird analogies and intimidate you with his stare
dont even go there ok...only thing is there are not enough people watch this show for us to tell you how wrong you are. Ill do it myself. There has never in the nfl been a regular season player like manning who torches defense and carries his team to wins with multiple head coaches and awful defenses. Rodgers has Matthews, ha ha Clinton dix on defense. Who did manning have? And he still won games and put up numbers no qb ever will. Yeah manning never got sacked 50 or more times in a season twice. Manning has 5 mvp awards, Rodgers has 2. Don't ever compare them again.
great point. one season completely represents an 18 year career almost entirely made up of garbage defenses. Manning has over 100 wins with a defense ranked 16th or less. the person who is always compared is brady who has won just over 20 games with that circumstance. Rodgers is not even in that category. so yeah...
Rodgers Stats in NFC championship/Superbowl 2-2 78.6 passer rating 7 tds 5 int 58.7% 22 pts per game So yeah he is Manning All-time Great in Regular Season but Playoffs it's another thing. In the Wild Card or Divisional round sure he has the stats because he's not playing the real contender yet the top 4 in the NFL. It's like the Cards or the Redkins who don't stand a chance. Even though Peyton was bad often, at least Peyton showed me in 2006 against the Pats that he can beat a great team in the playoffs. Rodgers best playoff win is his only superbowl. Otherwise, he's Dan Marino.
Charles Ferron eh, he's still top 5 in everyone's book no question. That's a fact. After all of that stuff u said, he's still the most talented QB to ever play. Tuff.
Dereck Henson he's certainly not top 5 in everyone's book yet I think he'll get there but he has a lot of career numbers to bring up to be on that level
we played the seahawks legion of boom in its prime, the falcons new and great defense that sprouted in 2015, and then we played the bears second version of the monsters of the midway to get us to the sb, and steelers 2nd steel curtain in the sb, great defenses and rodgers puts up good enough numbers to get us the win
Brady numbers drop because we actually run the ball deeper into the season because its COLD....and we play OUTDOORS... U need a solid running game in the PLAYOFFS.... Brady is GOAT
Nfl players are tough but hockey players are obviously tougher. No 19 year old nfl player will ever play 20 minutes after he breaks his face. No nfl player will play two plays with a broken leg. No nfl player will die on the bench, be revived, and in the ambulance beg the doctors to go back in. No nfl player will ever take rock hard rubber to the face at 100 miles an hour and never flinch. Football is great but hockey players are tougher.
These guy's don't know nothing but live to hear themselves talk. Manning is nothing like Rodgers. Both have a high football IQ. That's the only similarity....
Yeah this dude was a lineman, not a skill position player. Probably easier to come back and play after an injury when you’re pushing people around as opposed to reading defenses, calling plays, throwing, scrambling, leading an entire team. Peyton Manning getting injured was the luckiest thing that could have happened for the Colts. There’s no way they would have been able to draft a QB like Andrew Luck and go from one franchise QB to another if Manning just gradually declined while still winning 7-10 games for them. Some teams get lucky like that... Favre-Rodgers, Manning-Luck, Montana-Young While my fav team hasn’t had a decent QB since 1969 hahahah
We are all witnessing the aging and obvious decline of Colin. Not Tom Brady. The younger Colin would have been smart enough to know that Tom Brady is the greatest QB late in the season and in the playoffs. Last year's Super Bowl case in point. Colin should retire before Tom Brady does.
Yeah he's just like Peyton ...not as good as Brady. Drew Bree's is better than Rodgers look at the numbers people. Also Peyton and Rodgers suck in the playoffs when it all matters , but they sure can throw huh.
T. Ship The packers are actually going against the better team on the road in the post season......You can't expect Rodgers to overcome better teams with a flaw system that relies on Quarterback a lot more than most teams and I don't need to talk about the Defense which speak for itself.Not even Brees with Sean Payton has overcome the better teams especially on the road in the NFC.
Please stop it. Rodgers nothing I mean nothing and I mean nowhere near Manning please.stop fantasizes. The top 3 is brees Brady and Manning these are your passing gods. They never stop Rodgers is equivalent to Matt ryan and cam Newton and Matthew Stratford. He in the 40000 yards convo. Not the 70000 convo. Stop it please people. Rodgers overrated
Let's call a spade a spade, Peyton manning is overrated. His defense carried him to both of his Superbowl wins. Guy has the most one and dones in playoff history and consistently chokes. His only wins in the super bowl are against Rex Grossman in a rain storm and scam newton.
Peyton has been robbed a few times in the playoffs you can't blame a loss entirely on a quarterback no matter how important they are it is still a team sport
Do the Packers stand a chance of making the playoffs?
The Herd with Colin Cowherd yes
I think it will be too little too late and too far behind
The Herd with Colin Cowherd no the NFC is too competitive
They should suck for a good offensive tackle. Or some good players on D.
We are going to win are 2 game then Arron Roggers come back and run the table
Schlereth is honestly one of the best analysts fox has
Schlereth is the Broussard of the NFL
Best FOX Analysts by Sport:
NFL: Schlereth/Cris Carter
NBA: Broussard
MLB: A-Rod
CFB: Klatt
Nate DaGreat great announcer too, better than Aikman
Timo Cruz facts
Nate DaGreat he never even responded to Colin’s question that isn’t this the smartest move? So no.
Aaron is the Best Quarterback of all time, not the most accomplished but YES, HE IS THE BEST QUARTERBACK OF ALL TIME!
Dat Boi No brady and manning have had 50 touchdown seasons Rodgers hasn't
nah
Even Brees is better than Rodgers...The goat goes to Brady, its not even a question at this point.
Brady and peyton have 50 plus tds because afc division is weak....... nfc division so much better
Depends entirely on the year, for instance the year brady got hurt 11-5 wasn't good enough to make the playoffs, additionally the NFC north has been weak as it has the Lions and Bears in it.
See, this guy actually knows football. All the analysis guys talk about is stats. I love to watch Cowherd's face when Mark brings up the fact that Miami's ypc are only so high because of a few good runs
When Colin said that Brady is aging, I thought he said Asian
Same
SirZachTB same
Peyton is the greatest QB mind to ever put on a helmet. Aaron has the greatest arm ever.
Yea but tom brady is the goat
Don't agree manning is better at reading defenses but they can both carry teams though
Stretch Aaron Rodgers is just as good at reading coverages....
ShaqXDeezil nope
ShaqXDeezil Manning is definitely better.
Stretch you didn't watch Peyton at his prime
Lmao... Aaron Rodgers Football IQ is through the roof. Let alone reading defenses. He’s just as good if not better than the mannings and Brady.
Tom Brady is the MJ of football. Peyton Manning is Lebron James. Aaron Roders is Kobe.
deep
If Aaron Rodgers went to the Vikings like Favre, they’d win the next 4 Super Bowls
Jaccobtw
If, if, if, if...
If Brady retired. Brady and Rodgers are in their own category of QBs, but against the best defenses Brady is better(see Seattle vs both of them in 2014, Rodgers 1 TD, Brady 4, see Atlanta last year. Brady record yardage despite the first half looking much like Atlanta vs Rodgers, but then Brady came back).
Shaun Sterling Brady didn't play Seattle hurt in their house why do people not understand this
Jaccobtw Lmfao yup.
Jaccobtw he go to Cleveland and they go 9-7 or 10-6. They'd be 6th seed wildcard and the team playing them better play bring their complete A game.
Love Mark Schlereth
Brady's numbers drop because he's an immobile QB for the most part and he plays outdoors most of the time. Put him in a dome and he'd have even more records
James Mitchell agreed
It doesn't matter about inside or outside it matters about the field NE has always had a smooth track better for wr to make cuts and rbs to as well it's less beneficial to defenses.
nah there are the elements to deal with as well. Wet footballs, frozen hands, windy conditions.... none of that happens in a dome. His stats in domes are better then they are in Foxborro.
I think our offense is great honestly... Just dont know about Hundley, and he plays well in the 4th Quarter only it seems like. Jordy and Davante are really good, Aaron Jones and Jamaal Williams are really good. We have a young and very injured O Line. Our defense has some pretty good players, just not a really good scheme and alot of injuries. Also our pass rush kinda sucks.
Mark Schlereth is awesome.
With Rodgers 9 or 10 + wins, without Rodgers 3 or 4 wins?
With Peyton 10+ win seasons (more so 12+) without Peyton 2 wins
With Brady 12+ win seasons without Brady 11 wins
M Poly patriots went 16 and 0 the year before and were basically the same the following year when Brady went down.The pats would not win 11 games if Brady was hurt at the start of the year
That's cool. Brady (cool under pressure) has been a great immobile QB just like Peyton (he chokes).
I'm more of a Rodgers guy. I think he has it all.
Patriots from top to bottom are the BEST. owner, coach, qb, smart as players. They are just a great franchise all around.
M Poly
Dude, stop cherry picking stats, lol!
A Brady-less Patriots since Brady was drafted in 2000 are 18-19 overall.
M Poly
What about the Broncos going 5-2 when they benched Manning for stinking up the joint???
All the Colts needed was a DECENT QB coming out of college. As soon as Luck took over, they went 11-5 three years in a row.
DiabloSpiritus
Talk about Cherry picking stats. Manning with the Broncos was done as a qb by that time after he got hurt again, he was never the same and you know it. The year before he threw for most TDs in a season. The Colts got Luck after Peyton couldn't play and they won 2 games without manning to secure that pick so nice try.
Manning was great but a choke artist in Post season play, if he didn't play well while with the Colts then they don't win.
Tom Brady is showing his age by leading the league in QBR, yards, 2nd in TD and 3 int through 11 games. Sure thing guys! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂📤🔊😂📤🔊
Have him on more
Completely agree, we get that the giants want to lose out to get the number 2 pick but don't put in Geno Smith! Geno sucks and that's just disrespectful to Eli. Start David Webb, your 3rd round 2017 draft pick and see what he's got! If he sucks then you get what you wanted and if he's good you may have a future QB
Exactly right. green Bay has not supported Aaron Rodgers like New England has supported Brady
Put Rodgers on the Broncos, with that D, and they'd never lose.
Mark makes some valid points like how easily statistics can be decep tive when all factors have not been considered with such statistics.
Mark Schereth and Chris Broussard are two of my favorite sports analysts everyone else are trash, biased and are sellouts
100%
The craziest part if the Eli benching story is them starting Geno Smith instead. As a jets fan it is particularly hilarious.
Although with our luck he will somehow win the starting job against their top pick QB and lead them into the playoffs
The one flaw in this "logic" is tht... More than ever, this is a QB driven league. You have to have at least marginal talent at the backup QB position. Dont tell me the Colts/Packers never had talent on the field bcuz their GMs punted on backup QB. Worse for TT since u shld knw mobile QB comes w risk. Case Keenum isnt magic but hes playing decent enough to keep the Vikings afloat. Im in Hou, if he were playing like he did here? We wldnt b talking abt the Vikings this season and Texans would have made a playoff run tht yr.
Rodgers and Manning are great but dont give them god status bcuz the guys tht came in to play were Painter and Huntley. Dont believe either had ever taken a reg season snap in their CAREERS. Lazy analyses to ignore the competency of the guy replacing ur starter for tht season. It matters... A LOT.
I call BS on schlereth having major surgery and playing the next day. If it was a true major surgery, he wouldnt be able to...Someone needs to tell him what "major surgery" means.
Gamer Extraodernair 29 of em
Gamer Extraodernair JT Barrett just has arthroscopic knee surgery and he's boutta play on Saturday, it can happen.
Scott Bennici Not a major surgery homie...if the man couldnt walk afterwards...thats major
Scott Bennici you don’t need to even be sedated for arthroscopic knee surgery. It’s not major
Gamer Extraodernair ok you right
Mark already told Colin about surgeries on another segment yet still acts oblivious.
Shows how great Colin is at his job
This was great!
Rodgers=GOAT
3:16 " You are an inch wide and a mile deep" PAUSE wtffff
Amazing!!! Mccarthy is on watch.. Time to go bud.
"Very serious back injury and was back in the lineup in 27 days." I don't care if you're that guy or god, you're not recovering from a MAJOR back injury and returning is less than a month, you'll be lucky to be walking.
Why does Colin try to convince people that the packers have a chance. THEYRE DONE!!
Noah Castro well he isn't wrong, but the road the will be very tough. We'd need Falcons to lose out and packers not to lose another game (assuming he comes back this season).
Y'all said the same thing last season..
Jimmy Her you gonna need more than just Atlanta to lose out to get in. There’s a bunch of teams ahead of you plus some of those teams own the tiebreaker
Colts/Broncos 8-8 w/o Manning at best. 12-4 or better with Manning. Packers average w/o Rodgers. Super Bowl contenders with him.
I am a Packers fan so take that into thought. But I knew Aaron Rodgers was literally the whole Packers team. Everyone should know that, the only reason why they made the NFC championship game last year is because of him. The secondary is so bad for the packers but Aaron usually outplays the other offense and finds ways to win games. They need a better defense. End of story Ted needs to draft more defense.
Mark Schlereth (just an opinion from what my eyes see) seems like one of those military drill instructor type guys that tries to make weird analogies and intimidate you with his stare
1. Rodgers
2. Manning
3. Brady
4. Montana
5. Elway
That's disrespectful to Aaron he's better. Don't attack me all at once.
dont even go there ok...only thing is there are not enough people watch this show for us to tell you how wrong you are. Ill do it myself. There has never in the nfl been a regular season player like manning who torches defense and carries his team to wins with multiple head coaches and awful defenses. Rodgers has Matthews, ha ha Clinton dix on defense. Who did manning have? And he still won games and put up numbers no qb ever will. Yeah manning never got sacked 50 or more times in a season twice. Manning has 5 mvp awards, Rodgers has 2. Don't ever compare them again.
Manning was carried by Denver's defense in his last season so yeah...
Jay Patel lol I'm not reading all that shot
Jay Patel
who's got a better TD to INT ratio?
great point. one season completely represents an 18 year career almost entirely made up of garbage defenses. Manning has over 100 wins with a defense ranked 16th or less. the person who is always compared is brady who has won just over 20 games with that circumstance. Rodgers is not even in that category. so yeah...
Patriots went 3-1 without Brady and Packers are 1-5 without Rodgers...🤔
aaron rodgers is the greatest qb of all time. its not debatable.
Saint Aubyn as a redskins fan it's not debatable
You are an idiot. All of the great qbs played in the era when defense existed. NFL is a joke now.
Saint Aubyn I agree
Margin of Aaron
Rodgers Stats in NFC championship/Superbowl 2-2 78.6 passer rating 7 tds 5 int 58.7% 22 pts per game So yeah he is Manning All-time Great in Regular Season but Playoffs it's another thing. In the Wild Card or Divisional round sure he has the stats because he's not playing the real contender yet the top 4 in the NFL. It's like the Cards or the Redkins who don't stand a chance. Even though Peyton was bad often, at least Peyton showed me in 2006 against the Pats that he can beat a great team in the playoffs. Rodgers best playoff win is his only superbowl. Otherwise, he's Dan Marino.
So it's Rodgers fault he's defense is horrible?
Richy Rich006 he put up Aaron's terrible offensive stats to start?????
Charles Ferron eh, he's still top 5 in everyone's book no question. That's a fact. After all of that stuff u said, he's still the most talented QB to ever play. Tuff.
Dereck Henson he's certainly not top 5 in everyone's book yet I think he'll get there but he has a lot of career numbers to bring up to be on that level
we played the seahawks legion of boom in its prime, the falcons new and great defense that sprouted in 2015, and then we played the bears second version of the monsters of the midway to get us to the sb, and steelers 2nd steel curtain in the sb, great defenses and rodgers puts up good enough numbers to get us the win
Brady numbers drop because we actually run the ball deeper into the season because its COLD....and we play OUTDOORS... U need a solid running game in the PLAYOFFS.... Brady is GOAT
Did dude just say he had surgery on Sunday night and played on Monday night omg
“You want to be with your comrades” *tries to suppress Soviet National Anthem playing your head*
Aaron Rodgers to the jags. How dominant would they be?
How many players would they have to cut to have cap space for him? lol
Aaron is nothing like Peyton manning
emanuel m true because he's mobile
Your right he is better
how can you say peyton carried the broncos when he won a superbowl in his worst season? the guy could barely move...the defense carried that team.
I want Mark Schlereth's daughter
Nfl players are tough but hockey players are obviously tougher. No 19 year old nfl player will ever play 20 minutes after he breaks his face. No nfl player will play two plays with a broken leg. No nfl player will die on the bench, be revived, and in the ambulance beg the doctors to go back in. No nfl player will ever take rock hard rubber to the face at 100 miles an hour and never flinch. Football is great but hockey players are tougher.
These guy's don't know nothing but live to hear themselves talk. Manning is nothing like Rodgers. Both have a high football IQ. That's the only similarity....
Yeah this dude was a lineman, not a skill position player.
Probably easier to come back and play after an injury when you’re pushing people around as opposed to reading defenses, calling plays, throwing, scrambling, leading an entire team.
Peyton Manning getting injured was the luckiest thing that could have happened for the Colts. There’s no way they would have been able to draft a QB like Andrew Luck and go from one franchise QB to another if Manning just gradually declined while still winning 7-10 games for them. Some teams get lucky like that... Favre-Rodgers, Manning-Luck, Montana-Young
While my fav team hasn’t had a decent QB since 1969 hahahah
Rodgers does not choke his defense does don't forget that. Did it against Seattle did it against Arizona like come on
seth ellebracht
Go, re-watch the Green Bay vs Seahawks 2014 playoff game.
We are all witnessing the aging and obvious decline of Colin. Not Tom Brady. The younger Colin would have been smart enough to know that Tom Brady is the greatest QB late in the season and in the playoffs. Last year's Super Bowl case in point. Colin should retire before Tom Brady does.
Schlereth wore 69? Respect
the blasphemy coming out from this man’s mouth
He's nothing like Manning lol y'all need to suspend Mark Schlereth. He been hitting the bottle at work
Peyton manning = Lebron James
Joe Montana = Michael Jordan
Chorizoflex 2929 Peyton has two rings
rodgers is way better than peyton, brady, brees
Bradys better.
The Greatest
Yes he is.
Sit down.
He's better at winning, way more clutch
Duhh
Yeah he's just like Peyton ...not as good as Brady. Drew Bree's is better than Rodgers look at the numbers people. Also Peyton and Rodgers suck in the playoffs when it all matters , but they sure can throw huh.
T. Ship The packers are actually going against the better team on the road in the post season......You can't expect Rodgers to overcome better teams with a flaw system that relies on Quarterback a lot more than most teams and I don't need to talk about the Defense which speak for itself.Not even Brees with Sean Payton has overcome the better teams especially on the road in the NFC.
Who said Colin is good....he says dumb things all the time.....if that's with preparation.... wow.
Luigi Cantoviani right
Please stop it. Rodgers nothing I mean nothing and I mean nowhere near Manning please.stop fantasizes. The top 3 is brees Brady and Manning these are your passing gods. They never stop Rodgers is equivalent to Matt ryan and cam Newton and Matthew Stratford. He in the 40000 yards convo. Not the 70000 convo. Stop it please people. Rodgers overrated
Aaron Rodgers is the most efficient qb in NFL history. Peyton Manning is more comparable to Favre...they both throw lots of picks.
Jaccobtw He also throws more TDs
Jaccobtw Favre didn't revolutionized the Quarterback position like Peyton Manning.
How did Peyton throw a lot of picks lol what are you talking aboit
Let's call a spade a spade, Peyton manning is overrated. His defense carried him to both of his Superbowl wins. Guy has the most one and dones in playoff history and consistently chokes. His only wins in the super bowl are against Rex Grossman in a rain storm and scam newton.
Highlander10001 genius mate
Peyton has been robbed a few times in the playoffs you can't blame a loss entirely on a quarterback no matter how important they are it is still a team sport
Highlander10001 If i'm not mistaken, Colts had the 28th ranked rushed defense in the league.
You can’t deny the numbers they speak for themselves. He’s one of the all time greats
Both of his SB wins...not his first one homie...smh..
Mark Schlereth is fantastic.