TIP: if you do this and the belt he listed is too short, You need the 4060970 belt it’s about a third of an inch longer. I had to go up a size to this size belt because it would not fit it was too tight. I would suggest buying the belt he listed and also buying the one I just mentioned and then just return the one that doesn’t fit, but this worked out perfectly takeoff the pulley off the smog pump and takeoff the idler pulley and put this belt on and good to go!
Thinking about doing this to my 86' f150. 5.8l High Output Windsor 350. I put a new $550 Holly on it and it seems to run good now. Kinda sluggish in gear though.
I’m glad I did the delete because having 2 less pulleys 2 spin means 2 less bearings that can fail lol. So far I’ve had it for a few months and is worked great so far
Did you cap the lines at the top or just cut them? I’ve seen one video where the guy loops them together. Had the smog pump seize up on me hauling 1.5 tons of material. Just wanna see if I can just throw it all out at once or if I gotta cap or loop the hoses at the top of the motor. Thank you.
You can just cut them off or cap them, it isn’t gonna make a difference once the smog pump is gone. I deleted all that garbage off of my trucks. Egr delete and cat delete. You might be able to just take the pulley off the front of it and leave the pump up there
Hi, you can just leave it disconnected and hanging there or just take all your emissions stuff off like I did. I removed it all in my 95 as well as my 96
@KeithSaggio what I did on mine is unplug those 2 solenoids and put a 100 ohm resistor in each connector and then order the egr delete kit off eBay for the plug end. That what I did on mine and the engine light stayed off
Some people were saying they went to the next size up, I haven’t had any problems with this belt but others have said 1 step up or 1 step down. Hope this helps!
Really? Do you have a picture or video of it? Mines been fine since I did it. I’ve done a few more too with no issues. What year is your truck and it’s 351w with ac?
The link is gone, I think they discontinued the kit. Idk if the epa has something to do with that. I’ll keep looking for another kit tho for you guys. Thanks for watching! Please subscribe if you can! I would appreciate it friend!
got a 89 f250 351w and the smog lines are in the way for doing the valve covers if i remove these isnt it going to throw a code unless you unplug the wires to the air solenoid and cap them with a 75 ohm resister?
Do you have California emissions ? The only trucks to my knowledge that have the hoses over the valve covers are the California emissions trucks. In which case yes you would throw a code if you take them all off. I used resisters in my connectors and my check engine light stays off. Do you have to go thru emissions with your truck still?
@@T-MillProductions update : yeah cali truck that lived in pa its whole life built in canada...ya lol .... deleted it all left the tad and tab solenoids installed no codes or light haven't had a issue replaced manifolds to ditch air lines removed a ton of pipes, tubes, vacuum lines now my tree has 4 vacuum lines for the whole truck thanks for the video! im assuming since its obd1 and the tad and tab are still on it thinks all is well simply just capped them at the solenoids and done 3k miles no light for it
@AntiMaxer that’s great man! I’m glad it worked out for you, I’m the same way, I deleted all that garbage and I haven’t had any problems. Did the belt I showed in the video for your truck or did you have to go with a different size? Some people are saying the belt I use is to long or to short, but it worked just fine for me.
@@T-MillProductions i left the pump as a pulley for now, the belt you have is 96.7" you have a/c my truck has it as well , what ive read everyone says a 91" belt but is that a no a/c no smog belt? , they sell a bracket pulley kit so you can run the factory belt(rewatched a realized you said you had one already lol ) i just havent decided which route to take
@AntiMaxer lol it’s all good man, I actually later on deleted the delete pulley, it broke so I just bypassed that too. So far so good, I like having 2 less pulleys total. I got a 95 f250 I bought back in July I still haven’t made videos on yet. I’m currently tearing the motor apart because it had a blown head gasket on the drivers side. So now it’s getting rebuilt with some aftermarket speed parts lol. 351w, E4Od, 2wd but I plan to make it 4 wheel eventually
Followed your video and ended up taking the smog pump and idler pulley off of the truck. When I went to route the belt, it went on very tight. I’ve noticed over the last few days. My truck is having trouble shifting. Any ideas why
Thanks for the comment, I have no idea why your truck would have trouble shifting. The belt routing wouldn’t have anything to do with that as far as I can tell. Did you check the fluid to make sure it’s full and not dark or burnt?
@@T-MillProductions I put it on this morning. It works great. You have to take the smog pump pully off but it was really easy (3x10mm bolts). I could only get a duralast 975k6 this morning. At high rpm's I see a little slop in the belt.
I’m glad it worked out! When I did mine someone already deleted the smog pump I just had the bypass pulley I took off. Glad to have less accessories stealing power from the motor lol
Is your belt still holding off? Been seeing comments saying it walks or what not. Looking to delete the smog pump pulley on mine, & leave the pump in there with everything hooked up still. Just scared Ill throw a belt & not have tools with me someday haha
Mines been fine for years now. I’ve put on thousands of miles since I made this video with no problems at all. I’m not sure why others are having issues but mine has been perfectly fine.
@@T-MillProductions My pulley just seized up a couple minutes ago. Going to buy the belt right now. Hopefully the smog pump pulley isnt hard to get off
@@T-MillProductions just finished installing the belt. Drove it around. Seems good, I dont know about when its wet out. But So far its holding. Nice not having that noisy smog pump chattering. Its running good with everything left there.
My smog pump is rattling like crazy loud. Second one they put in. Can i just take pump and pulley off and add shorter belt or do i have to do entire delete? Please help!
@@T-MillProductions i went to napa and they gave me micro v 060966 6PK2454 I think they gave me the wrong one. Can you send me a link to the right one?
All the lines that go to the smog pump can be taken off and thrown away. I chose to do a full emissions delete so everything is gone now. But if all you wanna do is the smog pump you can leave the lines there or cut them all out
***Correction*** this belt is perfect! Long story short... I just spent the whole weekend looking for belts. 97in worked buttttt it squeeled at start so too long. NOTHING ELSE SHORTER WORKS. Tried this belt again and it did take a screw driver on the tensioner to pry the belt over but IT DOES WORK. No squeeling works perfect. Not sure if you had to do that but you may want to pin it as a comment. I have a 1996 f350 5.8 Thank you!
@@sergiorecio1548 It's so weird, I went through several belts before I found this video and was about to add the smog delete idler pulley on mine because I DO have a bad squeal when mine starts and I'm using the 4060967. I've changed the tensioner thinking maybe it was bad and I've used belt dressing but nothing I've tried gets rid of the initial squealing when starting it. Not sure what else to try.
@djesurun1 idk why all you guys are having problems, mine works just fine with the belt I listed, the only thing I can think of is the 91 and older trucks use the different belt tensioner and alternator. But the 92 to 97 trucks this should be perfect for
I can't never find any videos, smog related on the ultra-rare carbureted Holley four-barrel 87 351W HD F-250 with dual smog pumps. The fuel-injected engines smog systems are just completely set up different.
TIP: if you do this and the belt he listed is too short, You need the 4060970 belt it’s about a third of an inch longer. I had to go up a size to this size belt because it would not fit it was too tight. I would suggest buying the belt he listed and also buying the one I just mentioned and then just return the one that doesn’t fit, but this worked out perfectly takeoff the pulley off the smog pump and takeoff the idler pulley and put this belt on and good to go!
Thanks for the tips man!
Before I do this, Did it throw a check engine light at all?
Mine did not, but a guys f150 did
What about the two hoses that connect to the smog pump?
I took all that off. I have zero emissions stuff in my truck
If you don't remove the pump and just take pulley off do you need to un hook the lines?
Nope, you can leave everything there and just take the pulley off if you choose too
Thinking about doing this to my 86' f150. 5.8l High Output Windsor 350. I put a new $550 Holly on it and it seems to run good now. Kinda sluggish in gear though.
I’m glad I did the delete because having 2 less pulleys 2 spin means 2 less bearings that can fail lol. So far I’ve had it for a few months and is worked great so far
I have a 92 with a 351 and I only have 1 belt tensioner and it’s the 1 you deleted so I’m guessing this won’t work for me
I didn’t delete a tensioner, I deleted an idler pulley. This will work for your truck as long as its a 351w with ac and a single alternator
@@T-MillProductions it is thank you
You’re welcome! If you need anything let me know!
Did you cap the lines at the top or just cut them? I’ve seen one video where the guy loops them together. Had the smog pump seize up on me hauling 1.5 tons of material. Just wanna see if I can just throw it all out at once or if I gotta cap or loop the hoses at the top of the motor. Thank you.
You can just cut them off or cap them, it isn’t gonna make a difference once the smog pump is gone. I deleted all that garbage off of my trucks. Egr delete and cat delete. You might be able to just take the pulley off the front of it and leave the pump up there
hi. im going to do this to my 97 f250 super duty. what do i do with the hose that is taken off the smog pump after removal??
Hi, you can just leave it disconnected and hanging there or just take all your emissions stuff off like I did. I removed it all in my 95 as well as my 96
@@T-MillProductions thank you! info was very helpful!!
You are very welcome!!
Can you tell me how to bypass check engine light? 96 302 with obd2 please help
Does your truck have the tab and tad solenoids next to the ignition coil?
@@T-MillProductions yes
@KeithSaggio what I did on mine is unplug those 2 solenoids and put a 100 ohm resistor in each connector and then order the egr delete kit off eBay for the plug end. That what I did on mine and the engine light stayed off
What did you do with the hoses that hook up to the pump
I took all that stuff off. I just cut all that crap out of there and on the back of the heads are bolts to remove the metal brackets
I did this and the belt seems really tight. Did anyone end up using a bigger belt? If so what size?
Some people were saying they went to the next size up, I haven’t had any problems with this belt but others have said 1 step up or 1 step down. Hope this helps!
I did exatly this and the belt is tracking slightly off the back of the tensioner pulley and rubbing the bolt
Really? Do you have a picture or video of it? Mines been fine since I did it. I’ve done a few more too with no issues. What year is your truck and it’s 351w with ac?
@T-MillProductions I tried to send a video and it uploaded as a short to my profile. Lol. Yes it's a 351 with ac
I’ll go watch it. I’m not sure why it would be tracking off. Mine has been just fine.
@T-MillProductions I'm not sure either. It's fine otherwise and staying on track. I'm just gonna drive it and see how long it lasts. Lol
lol nice. Unless one of your pulleys is bad or something maybe
Do the link still works and provide the correct part number. Well this fit on a 97 Ford f350 5.8L
I don’t know if the link still works or not but yes this will work on a 97 as well. Same engine as the previous years.
Where did you get the EGR block off plate?
I got that off eBay along with the connector plug. I can send you a link if I can find it again
@T-Mill Productions I would appreciate it if you can send me the link. Thank you!
Sure thing man!
@@T-MillProductions can you send it to me too please
The link is gone, I think they discontinued the kit. Idk if the epa has something to do with that. I’ll keep looking for another kit tho for you guys. Thanks for watching! Please subscribe if you can! I would appreciate it friend!
got a 89 f250 351w and the smog lines are in the way for doing the valve covers if i remove these isnt it going to throw a code unless you unplug the wires to the air solenoid and cap them with a 75 ohm resister?
Do you have California emissions ? The only trucks to my knowledge that have the hoses over the valve covers are the California emissions trucks. In which case yes you would throw a code if you take them all off. I used resisters in my connectors and my check engine light stays off. Do you have to go thru emissions with your truck still?
@@T-MillProductions update : yeah cali truck that lived in pa its whole life built in canada...ya lol .... deleted it all left the tad and tab solenoids installed no codes or light haven't had a issue replaced manifolds to ditch air lines removed a ton of pipes, tubes, vacuum lines now my tree has 4 vacuum lines for the whole truck thanks for the video! im assuming since its obd1 and the tad and tab are still on it thinks all is well simply just capped them at the solenoids and done 3k miles no light for it
@AntiMaxer that’s great man! I’m glad it worked out for you, I’m the same way, I deleted all that garbage and I haven’t had any problems. Did the belt I showed in the video for your truck or did you have to go with a different size? Some people are saying the belt I use is to long or to short, but it worked just fine for me.
@@T-MillProductions i left the pump as a pulley for now, the belt you have is 96.7" you have a/c my truck has it as well , what ive read everyone says a 91" belt but is that a no a/c no smog belt? , they sell a bracket pulley kit so you can run the factory belt(rewatched a realized you said you had one already lol ) i just havent decided which route to take
@AntiMaxer lol it’s all good man, I actually later on deleted the delete pulley, it broke so I just bypassed that too. So far so good, I like having 2 less pulleys total. I got a 95 f250 I bought back in July I still haven’t made videos on yet. I’m currently tearing the motor apart because it had a blown head gasket on the drivers side. So now it’s getting rebuilt with some aftermarket speed parts lol. 351w, E4Od, 2wd but I plan to make it 4 wheel eventually
Do you know if this set up and belt size will work with a saginaw power steering pump?
I have no idea. What year engine do you have?
@@T-MillProductions 94 351w
Is your power steering the stock one or the old style from the 70s?
@@T-MillProductions I have no idea how can you tell?
@@T-MillProductions I'm working on a 94 XLT bronco
Followed your video and ended up taking the smog pump and idler pulley off of the truck. When I went to route the belt, it went on very tight. I’ve noticed over the last few days. My truck is having trouble shifting. Any ideas why
Thanks for the comment, I have no idea why your truck would have trouble shifting. The belt routing wouldn’t have anything to do with that as far as I can tell. Did you check the fluid to make sure it’s full and not dark or burnt?
Nice job!
Thank you!
Will this work on a 1991 Ford f250 5.8L?
Yes it will, just make sure you have air conditioning or the ac bypass pulley
@@T-MillProductions Awesome, I do have the AC bypass. This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks T-Mill!
No problem man! Thank you for checking out the channel and subscribing! If you need anything else please don’t hesitate to ask!
Do you have to remove those pulleys? Can I just leave the smog and the ideler pull on?
Yea you can definitely do that if you choose too. It won’t hurt anything
thank you! I have to go out of state to pick up a machine and the smog pump is making a hell of a racket. This will buy me some time. Thank you again.
@@T-MillProductions
I put it on this morning. It works great. You have to take the smog pump pully off but it was really easy (3x10mm bolts). I could only get a duralast 975k6 this morning. At high rpm's I see a little slop in the belt.
You’re welcome friend! If you like my videos please feel free to subscribe and hit the like button! I sure would appreciate it!
I’m glad it worked out! When I did mine someone already deleted the smog pump I just had the bypass pulley I took off. Glad to have less accessories stealing power from the motor lol
I don’t get why you took the idler pulley off?
1 less pulley have to deal with and less parasitic draw from the engine
@@T-MillProductions gotcha, my motor might look different but I have a 5.8 351 but mine looks different for some reason
@thehighschool5511 what year is yours?
@@T-MillProductions 1991. You have a way I can send a picture?
You can email it to me if you want tylermiller351@gmail.com
Is your belt still holding off? Been seeing comments saying it walks or what not. Looking to delete the smog pump pulley on mine, & leave the pump in there with everything hooked up still. Just scared Ill throw a belt & not have tools with me someday haha
Mines been fine for years now. I’ve put on thousands of miles since I made this video with no problems at all. I’m not sure why others are having issues but mine has been perfectly fine.
@@T-MillProductions My pulley just seized up a couple minutes ago. Going to buy the belt right now. Hopefully the smog pump pulley isnt hard to get off
Dang man sorry to hear that!
@@T-MillProductions just finished installing the belt. Drove it around. Seems good, I dont know about when its wet out. But So far its holding. Nice not having that noisy smog pump chattering. Its running good with everything left there.
That’s good to hear man! I’m glad it worked out for you! Hope it gives you years of trouble free service
My smog pump is rattling like crazy loud. Second one they put in. Can i just take pump and pulley off and add shorter belt or do i have to do entire delete? Please help!
Yes you can take the entire pump off and run a shorter belt. What engine do you have and what year truck is it?
@@T-MillProductions 93 bronco 5.8
This video is what you need then, buy the belt in the video and then you delete the upper idler pulley and the smog pump
@@T-MillProductions i went to napa and they gave me micro v
060966
6PK2454
I think they gave me the wrong one. Can you send me a link to the right one?
Is there an autozone by you? That’s where I got this one from. I have no idea if any other belt will fit. Let me see if I can find it quick
How did you cap the lines
All the lines that go to the smog pump can be taken off and thrown away. I chose to do a full emissions delete so everything is gone now. But if all you wanna do is the smog pump you can leave the lines there or cut them all out
What do you do with all the hoses that were attached to the smog pump?
I took them all off and threw them away
I’d like to delete the AC also
My advice would be go to a parts store and buy an ac delete pulley. It’s got 4 bolts and has the same size pulley as your stock ac compressor
Dont use this belt. Wayyyyy too tight. ***READ COMMENT BELOW - IT WORKED!***
It’s weird because mine fits perfectly but I’ve heard others say to loose to tight or just right. What year is your truck?
***Correction*** this belt is perfect! Long story short... I just spent the whole weekend looking for belts. 97in worked buttttt it squeeled at start so too long. NOTHING ELSE SHORTER WORKS. Tried this belt again and it did take a screw driver on the tensioner to pry the belt over but IT DOES WORK. No squeeling works perfect. Not sure if you had to do that but you may want to pin it as a comment.
I have a 1996 f350 5.8 Thank you!
That’s good to hear man! Glad it worked out for you finally lol
@@sergiorecio1548 It's so weird, I went through several belts before I found this video and was about to add the smog delete idler pulley on mine because I DO have a bad squeal when mine starts and I'm using the 4060967. I've changed the tensioner thinking maybe it was bad and I've used belt dressing but nothing I've tried gets rid of the initial squealing when starting it. Not sure what else to try.
@djesurun1 idk why all you guys are having problems, mine works just fine with the belt I listed, the only thing I can think of is the 91 and older trucks use the different belt tensioner and alternator. But the 92 to 97 trucks this should be perfect for
today i did a delete smog pump fix...for a 96 f250 xl...all i did was get a 85 inch belt and ran it over the top of the tensioner pulley and thats it
That’s a good way to do it too! Glad it worked out for you
Which method would be less susceptible to movement?
Either should work honestly
Hi can you please tell me what model number brand belt did you purchase the one in this video is difficult to install. Thanks
Did you take off the idler pulley?
I can't never find any videos, smog related on the ultra-rare carbureted Holley four-barrel 87 351W HD F-250 with dual smog pumps. The fuel-injected engines smog systems are just completely set up different.
You have 2 smog pumps on your engine? Is that the original California emissions system from back then? Sounds like a super choked out truck