I’ve been riding for 10 yrs and owned several different kinds. I picked this exact bike up last yr and agree very much with the review. It’s not coolest I’ve owned or the fastest but has become the best overall bike I have owned. Great review!
Love watching you guys set the benchmark for a modern "magazine" every time you do such well produced videos. We know it's a ton of work, but as you can see, we all appreciate it.
Which basically is to say, this bike lends itself to some “personalization”. An upgraded shock, get rid of the rear tail thingy, a few mods and there you go! Maybe not quite the “SP” version they have in Europe, but for about $1000.00 you can make this bike your own! Good job Arie!
The traction control has saved me so many times, the most recent was this morning, a freezing -3 degrees, I was joining the motorway and twisted the throttle to fit between two cars in the lane... The back went sideways twice but quickly regained control , absolutely fantastically balanced bike
I'm glad ur alive bro. I just got a 2019 mt09, if it didnt have traction control that keeps the front wheel on the ground, I'd be a little more afraid of it. Brutal acceleration. Love it.
Yes! So yes on that horn. I have a tracer 700 and I don't think I've ever managed to hit it when I've needed to. The problems even worse with Yamaha heated grips which puts your hand even further from the button
Agree 100%. I've owned two FZ-09s. A 2015 that was written off by a minivan at 70km/h (still have my leg yay! Probably knee replacement by 50 boo!) and a 2017. The 2017 is better but still has its quirks. Replace the the rear shock and stiffen the fork for better overall suspension performance and the smiles just keep coming every time you twist the throttle. Put a pipe on it as well. The sound of the CP3 motor is AMAZING. Signals, seat, styling are all to taste. Don't let them deter you from the bike.
I 100% agree about the horn button. I had an XSR900 for a while and I never got use to it. It was even more difficult with thicker gloves for cold weather. When you said one of your favorites was the switch gear the first thing I thought of was the horrible horn placement but then you brought it up as FAIL. Great, I'm not the only one. I now have a 2014 Valkyrie and it has the turn signal and horn buttons flipped. A lot don't like it but I really prefer it. I must be the only one that likes it. I use turn signals much more often than the horn so I find the button to be more convenient on the bottom. The horn button is still easy to find and press even with thick gloves because the buttons are "Jitter Bug" big. Just my perspective. I really enjoy all the videos you guys put out and I watch your stuff more than regular tv. Keep it up!
Very well made... Compact video!!! I personally love the FZ 09, but the fails are bang on target... It still is one of the best naked sports bikes out there!!! Please do this for the Ducati Supersport too...
If you are willing to pay the affordable price for this bike you can just update the “missing” components by replacing what you feel you don’t like. Fixed mine by upgrading the front forks and and ECU flash...plus all my other mods. You know you don’t keep a bike stock. I ❤️ my FZ-09😊
I would love to know how the Yamaha compares to a Triumph Street Triple. I love my Yamaha’s, owned several but my last bike was a ‘12 model Street Triple R and was by far the best bike I have ever owned. Perfect throttle response!
Zack Courts and I wrote a feature for Motorcyclist magazine comparing the FZ to the new Street Triple RS. The Triumph outclasses the Yamaha and is half again more refined, but we still love the raw attitude of the Yamaha. I agree, the throttle response on Triuph's triples is the bar by which all others are measured.
Im on my restricted license atm and this is the bike im upgrading to when i get my full, already test rode it and love, got all my mods planned out and ready
I've given up on the horn button, now I just rev bomb. I don't like doing it, but it beats tboning someone that didn't see me. My M4 is waaaay louder than the horn.
The ONE HORN I WANTED was a Wolo Big Bad Max horn. There are so many knock offs. I’ve only seen one guy install one on a CB 600. Of course he had the room with a full faring. WHERE to install one of these on a FZ09?!
Pretty good and accurate! Owner of 2017 FZ09 (Not Euro-Fag MT09!) I've heard grumblings on Lights (Mine are Excellent) and the Instrument Dial? Again...Mine is fine. On the License Plate. I took off that what-ever and Installed a "Axel Block" from TST and their turn signals with LED flash controller all for about $120. Cleaned the Bike ^^^^
Americans and their over cocky attitude for no reason what so ever. There is no difference between MT and FZ, it's a shame you don't even own SP, so you could have at least a reason to complain about something. I hope you don't use Akrapovič on your bike, it's European thing, god forbid! Cock snot...
FireLysm sorry Fire L I’ve owned two FZ09s. And I built (upgraded) both of them. The yellow 2015 I owned was a good machine I added upgraded parts to every major mechanical system. Including the fork suspension which I did myself. $3000 (which is not much) was the final tab. What did I learn? I spent too much for silly (labeled comforts!) LIKE a SP! Now I own a much better/Faster 2017! Instead of slapping a M4 slip on at $450 (waste of money!) I built mine with a muffler (Carbon Fiber) from eBay for $50. Bought the extension pipe from Pep Boys for $33. And had a welder connect the two ends (Very nicely) for $50. Because I’m married and on a strict budget. I’ve spent $700 (Total so far) in sliders. $17 for a fly screen and black handlebars for $19 just to name a few. I also added a two row (8 beams each) led light system that mounts right under the daytime running light trim for $30 from Walmart. Heated grips surpasses any package that a SP would have! Do I have the clutchless shifting? No! But ANYTHING a SP has designed, I have surely surpassed it. What’s next? Flashing the ECM. And installing a Power Commander. Do I need it? Hell no! But why not. Oh and this Review of My 2017 FZ09. Was objective-subjective accurate and Right On! NOW... it’s I wish I had a 2019 FZ09! Or My Bad! MT Euro 09.. oh and laugh at yourself once in a while.
FireLysm I would NEVER throw $1200 out the window on some Commie Exhaust system! I learned my lesson on FZ 09 project #1. Having instead to reupholster the piece of concrete that thinks it is a seat for $150. Then I wouldn’t need a cane to get off the bike. The 2015 was a very unrefined bike. It is not until 2017 that this (initially throw away bike) was seriously upgraded by Yamaha because of the two letters I sent along with the other 200,000 they got from FZ Riders world wide! How many Yamahas has your parents. Sorry I meant that you have purchased? How many have you built or added stuff to? Please FireLyn. Don’t burn yourself answering! ALL OF TH-cam World is waiting with baited breath!? Did you vomit! Or was that just a BURP!? Well....? Anytime Kelly!
As an FZ owner, completely agree with the horn button location. I'm used to it now after a year but it was really frustrating trying to adjust. Also don't like the rear fender, glad I have a '14 (ECU is flashed!)
100% Agree on that horn! I miss it when I need it and hit it when I'm hitting the turn signal! Still in love with the bike! Can't wait for the salt and crap to be off the road to ride again!
nah its either hate it or love it I love it (same as the overall looks of the bike).... the things mentioned in the video are truly bad thus called fails... also as @Jack Z mentions it can be practical
A big fail that wasn't mentioned is the headlight beam pattern at night. If you are in the city with lots of street lights, then no problem. If you are on a dark curvy road at night, then big problem. The headlight beam pattern is terrible in the dark and in a curve. If you do a lot of riding at night on dark roads you will have to add a good set of LED auxilary driving lights to the bike.
A major fail (IMHO) is the low service interval of 4K miles (on both the MT-07 and MT-09) while others are at least 6K miles. One reason I'm seriously considering trading in my 2016 FZ-07 for a Triumph bike is the large service intervals and the better quality components. A major fail (of the FZ-07) is the dashboard location on the handlebar. It would be nice if there was some way to relocate this. A major fail (of the FZ-07) is the smaller than spec gas tank size. I completely ran out of gas and was shocked when the gas pump showed 3.3 gallons when I completely filled the tank (right at the top of the filler tube but not over it). A minor fail (of the FZ-07) is the cheap and seemingly fragile ignition key, the terrible ignition location and the crazy engine braking (which I believe only happens in the lower gears and under certain conditions but I'm not sure and I don't recall since I've conditioned myself only to engine brake at 4th gear and above and use the clutch and brakes at lower gears). A major fail of the MT-09 (for me) is how it looks, especially with the engine and other "naked" areas that should highlight the structural beauty. This is one major reason I got the FZ-07 over the FZ-09, even though the FZ-09 ergonomics is better for me (especially when doing long distance riding).
I test road a guys FZ09 for over an hour. The thing was a very fun bike to ride. The suspension though is just utterly terrible. I found some twisties and the bike was so TWITCHY in them. It twitched due to the rear shock then stood up! Thought it was all over when that happened. Needless to say maybe the SP is worth it but the standard is a no go for me. I topped off the fuel tank and returned it to the owner saying it has good aspects but I cannot get over the suspension.
I had an 09 street triple R, Friend just got the 14 mt-09. we went for a spin and jesus the yamaha goes great. So much more punch over the triumph but the 14 had horrible throttle control down low. Why do bike companies tend to do such a bad job on EFI bikes?
Replace the suspension, reflash the computer, and upgrade the brakes and the Fz09 is very difficult to beat. The rear fender is easy to eliminate, use a 14 -16axle bolt.
Even though this has a lot less editing then your other videos, it is still fantastic. I would love to see more of these pros and cons videos....If I had one wish I would love to see a video on the new sport cruisers that are coming out, like the vulcan s, storm, etc. I have heard they are super fun to ride.
Totally agree about the horn, its the same on my MT07. A guy reversed into me once in his car. As he was coming, in a panic I was trying to hit the horn to warn him and all i ended up doing was switching my lights to hi beam and tuning the indicators on, like a noob. Useless.
Any chance you could do a video on engine coolant? Like is it ok to run coolant that is acceptable for the track year round or do you have to worry about corrosion? And is there a coolant that will actually help your bike run cooler like engine ice and different additives? Do they actually work? Thanks.
awdeveau I have engine ice in my supermoto and zx10r most race tracks let you use it and it only needs changed out every couple years. I have not noticed much actually temperature change compared to antifreeze or water with water wetter
jake300win Thanks for the info. I'm originally from Maine and I never noticed the heat so much. But I'm now living in Florida and my bike seems to always be wanting to run hot, most likely because of the traffic and temperature in general. Bike is an Aprilia Tuono V4 1100. Was just curious if any of those additives that advertise that they help the engine run cooler actually work?
picking up my MT09 SP next week, baby ! suspension fixed by yamaha. now just gotta change the goofy turn signals and that thing on the rear tyre and its golden. next thing is get a yoshimura exhaust. im excited
I know it's rare the Ari and Zack do videos on cruiser, but how about doing one on the Kawasaki Vulcan S (it's a Sport Cruiser). I would be interested in both of their thoughts on it. Ride Safe, and have Fun !
One of my good buds just bought one of those within the last month and he really likes his. In all honesty though, there are times when he does feel like he should have gone with a naked bike over the Vulcan S though. With a top speed of less than 110 mph, he realized real quick that he wasnt going to be able to hang with the guys on spirited freeway rides. Also, the Vulcan S, though a sport cruiser, is still a cruiser so fast runs on twisties are not easy without scraping peg at slight lean angles. My buddy has mentioned a few times now that the forward controls get old quick and aren't as comfy as he hoped they'd be. One last thing: aftermarket support sucks with the Vulcan S. Not much out there (even in the exhaust dept.) Btw, the stock exhaust is terribly big and looks horrible. The cat is completely visible from the left side and it looks like shit. It's definitely a beginner bike. No doubt about that. My advice: Go with a naked bike. Comfort+Capability=Naked bike
I have a 2016 XSR900 and HOLY CRAP, the horn!...It really is in an awkward and distant position and I miss it every time too. Traction control 1 is okay and does let you loft the wheel like you said, but it'll kick in sometimes when the wheels in the air, slamming the front end down, which is not too fun. I've been shutting it off completely in town and turn it on in the twisties
Nice! I think it would be cool if you did a favorites & fails video on something like an older Yamaha R6. I see bikes like that all the time on the market and it would be cool to see your opinion, especially since there are a lot of differences between the new models and the old ones.
You"d think Yamaha would "At Least!" offer them as a Option! But as usual they Market the SP. People swallow it like BS! And then they pay $3-$4 K extra (if one is available) for that and a Blue Seat? I'm Out!
im glad you pointed out the weak point of the front forks which is the case with most bikes and of course fully adjustable is a step in the right direction but no adjustments for the rear?
Fuel capacity needs to be considered on the fav/fail list. This bike has the smallest tank of the 850-950cc category and there's no reason it cannot be at least a common 4.5gal/17L tank. Seriously.
i love MC garage , i already subscribe and notify is ON for new upload videos ... great job , great videos and simple way to analyze an issue ... that is great , i have learned so much about motorcycles i am car mechanic but this is a whole new world for me , it helps me too much !!! suggestion : on favorite and fails videos at the end some idle and light revving sound , maybe ride away closing your video it would be great !!!
Strongly considering this bike at the moment. Ari, do you have any experience with the ZX6R/ZX10R shock swap? Wondering if it truly transforms this bike as everyone claims. After adding an aftermarket shock, do you think the front would be ok? Also, what's your best recommendation to get rid of throttle twitchiness besides a dyno tune if you have personally tried one? Seems like an ECU flash could be a good option.
Omfg that horn button. Nice to know others have the same issue. It gets even worse if you put the Yamaha heated grips on, because the grip's control puts the horn button further away.
Tell me, does traction control prevent the front wheel from lifting? And they also have an error in the instructions for setting up the front fork: 11 clicks - soft, 11 - medium, 0 - hard. I wonder what's right?
I got to ride an FZ09 at a Yamaha event a few months ago, and the small switchgear was one thing I didn't like. I thought it made the bike seem cheap. Also, they had a Yamaha accessory "aftermarket" pipe on it which stuck out like a sore thumb at a 45 deg. angle. How about favs and fails on the Tuono!
I have two BMW motorcyle and the horn switch is in different places...so I hit the horn on one when I am going for the turn indicators and the other, I miss almost every time...would be nice if there was some consistency on this.
These guys are good! I don't get the technicalities of dyno's and modes, coming from tho old simple; "just ride that thing", school of thought but, they do a good job.
I agree with you totally especially the tail is just ugly why they change that? It was good before, anyway I would never buy other than Kawasaki in my personal experience they are not the best looking but the very best quality ? Love Kawa
I’ve been riding for 10 yrs and owned several different kinds. I picked this exact bike up last yr and agree very much with the review. It’s not coolest I’ve owned or the fastest but has become the best overall bike I have owned. Great review!
Most ever bike I've own
Love watching you guys set the benchmark for a modern "magazine" every time you do such well produced videos. We know it's a ton of work, but as you can see, we all appreciate it.
Great videos. No warming up to it or long unnecessary introductions, no BS, it’s clear and straight to the point
Which basically is to say, this bike lends itself to some “personalization”. An upgraded shock, get rid of the rear tail thingy, a few mods and there you go! Maybe not quite the “SP” version they have in Europe, but for about $1000.00 you can make this bike your own!
Good job Arie!
Wich shock?
You can get a Penske, Nitron, or Ohlins rear shock for this bike for about $700.00+/-
The traction control has saved me so many times, the most recent was this morning, a freezing -3 degrees, I was joining the motorway and twisted the throttle to fit between two cars in the lane... The back went sideways twice but quickly regained control , absolutely fantastically balanced bike
Nice vid - thanks for posting it up!
Just came from your CB1000R vid
The 2017 throttle & suspension is much improved over the 2014! I have owned them both!
Which one is easier to wheelie and overall thrilling.
@@protectork9831 my ex girlfriend.
I'm glad ur alive bro. I just got a 2019 mt09, if it didnt have traction control that keeps the front wheel on the ground, I'd be a little more afraid of it. Brutal acceleration. Love it.
overall, it's the best on it's class.
Yes! So yes on that horn. I have a tracer 700 and I don't think I've ever managed to hit it when I've needed to. The problems even worse with Yamaha heated grips which puts your hand even further from the button
Agree 100%. I've owned two FZ-09s. A 2015 that was written off by a minivan at 70km/h (still have my leg yay! Probably knee replacement by 50 boo!) and a 2017. The 2017 is better but still has its quirks. Replace the the rear shock and stiffen the fork for better overall suspension performance and the smiles just keep coming every time you twist the throttle. Put a pipe on it as well. The sound of the CP3 motor is AMAZING. Signals, seat, styling are all to taste. Don't let them deter you from the bike.
Absolutely love mine, No complaints! Great little Fave/fails clip
I'm looking at this the KTM 760 DUKE& STREET TRIPLE R OR RS.
I 100% agree about the horn button. I had an XSR900 for a while and I never got use to it. It was even more difficult with thicker gloves for cold weather.
When you said one of your favorites was the switch gear the first thing I thought of was the horrible horn placement but then you brought it up as FAIL. Great, I'm not the only one.
I now have a 2014 Valkyrie and it has the turn signal and horn buttons flipped. A lot don't like it but I really prefer it. I must be the only one that likes it. I use turn signals much more often than the horn so I find the button to be more convenient on the bottom. The horn button is still easy to find and press even with thick gloves because the buttons are "Jitter Bug" big. Just my perspective.
I really enjoy all the videos you guys put out and I watch your stuff more than regular tv. Keep it up!
Very well made... Compact video!!!
I personally love the FZ 09, but the fails are bang on target...
It still is one of the best naked sports bikes out there!!!
Please do this for the Ducati Supersport too...
I just bought my 2017. Cant wait to have it. Sure it's not perfect but for the money I dont expect perfection.
If you are willing to pay the affordable price for this bike you can just update the “missing” components by replacing what you feel you don’t like. Fixed mine by upgrading the front forks and and ECU flash...plus all my other mods. You know you don’t keep a bike stock. I ❤️ my FZ-09😊
Fixed with ecu flash ans front fork upgraded? Stock shock and exhaust?
"Rambunctious" lol, perfect choice of a single word to describe that bike if I ever heard any.
Where is the R3 race bike build update😂😂
I would love to know how the Yamaha compares to a Triumph Street Triple. I love my Yamaha’s, owned several but my last bike was a ‘12 model Street Triple R and was by far the best bike I have ever owned. Perfect throttle response!
Zack Courts and I wrote a feature for Motorcyclist magazine comparing the FZ to the new Street Triple RS. The Triumph outclasses the Yamaha and is half again more refined, but we still love the raw attitude of the Yamaha. I agree, the throttle response on Triuph's triples is the bar by which all others are measured.
Couldnt agree more. I really enjoyed the MT/FZ09 but when I bought the Street Triple then I said this bike offers everything you want and need.
MT-09 2019 this was awesome by the way. It would be even better to hear your take on the updates to the bike for 2019
Im on my restricted license atm and this is the bike im upgrading to when i get my full, already test rode it and love, got all my mods planned out and ready
I own one and I fully agree on these points. That darn horn switch is never found when you need it, I don't even try anymore most of the time >
I even tried to upgrade the Horn and it kept on blowing fuses! So I installed one from a SP-MT-09 (2019 of course...lol)......NOT!
I've given up on the horn button, now I just rev bomb. I don't like doing it, but it beats tboning someone that didn't see me. My M4 is waaaay louder than the horn.
The ONE HORN I WANTED was a Wolo Big Bad Max horn. There are so many knock offs. I’ve only seen one guy install one on a CB 600. Of course he had the room with a full faring. WHERE to install one of these on a FZ09?!
I have had the FZ09 foe 2 years so far .
I love it so much!
I love the FZ series, my FZ-07 is one of the favorite bikes I've had
Pretty good and accurate! Owner of 2017 FZ09 (Not Euro-Fag MT09!) I've heard grumblings on Lights (Mine are Excellent) and the Instrument Dial? Again...Mine is fine. On the License Plate. I took off that what-ever and Installed a "Axel Block" from TST and their turn signals with LED flash controller all for about $120. Cleaned the Bike ^^^^
Americans and their over cocky attitude for no reason what so ever. There is no difference between MT and FZ, it's a shame you don't even own SP, so you could have at least a reason to complain about something. I hope you don't use Akrapovič on your bike, it's European thing, god forbid! Cock snot...
FireLysm sorry Fire L I’ve owned two FZ09s. And I built (upgraded) both of them. The yellow 2015 I owned was a good machine I added upgraded parts to every major mechanical system. Including the fork suspension which I did myself. $3000 (which is not much) was the final tab. What did I learn? I spent too much for silly (labeled comforts!) LIKE a SP! Now I own a much better/Faster 2017! Instead of slapping a M4 slip on at $450 (waste of money!) I built mine with a muffler (Carbon Fiber) from eBay for $50. Bought the extension pipe from Pep Boys for $33. And had a welder connect the two ends (Very nicely) for $50. Because I’m married and on a strict budget. I’ve spent $700 (Total so far) in sliders. $17 for a fly screen and black handlebars for $19 just to name a few. I also added a two row (8 beams each) led light system that mounts right under the daytime running light trim for $30 from Walmart. Heated grips surpasses any package that a SP would have! Do I have the clutchless shifting? No! But ANYTHING a SP has designed, I have surely surpassed it. What’s next? Flashing the ECM. And installing a Power Commander. Do I need it? Hell no! But why not. Oh and this Review of My 2017 FZ09. Was objective-subjective accurate and Right On! NOW... it’s I wish I had a 2019 FZ09! Or My Bad! MT Euro 09.. oh and laugh at yourself once in a while.
FireLysm I would NEVER throw $1200 out the window on some Commie Exhaust system! I learned my lesson on FZ 09 project #1. Having instead to reupholster the piece of concrete that thinks it is a seat for $150. Then I wouldn’t need a cane to get off the bike. The 2015 was a very unrefined bike. It is not until 2017 that this (initially throw away bike) was seriously upgraded by Yamaha because of the two letters I sent along with the other 200,000 they got from FZ Riders world wide! How many Yamahas has your parents. Sorry I meant that you have purchased? How many have you built or added stuff to? Please FireLyn. Don’t burn yourself answering! ALL OF TH-cam World is waiting with baited breath!? Did you vomit! Or was that just a BURP!? Well....? Anytime Kelly!
@@FireLysm It beats riding a New Shopping Cart down some stairs with a Hockey helmet on! Or Ice fishing via a snowmobile
had mine for over half a year now, completely in love.
got a preview model for 8k€ with LEDs and whatnot, amazing deal.
As an FZ owner, completely agree with the horn button location. I'm used to it now after a year but it was really frustrating trying to adjust. Also don't like the rear fender, glad I have a '14 (ECU is flashed!)
Kawasaki z900 plzzz
100% Agree on that horn! I miss it when I need it and hit it when I'm hitting the turn signal! Still in love with the bike! Can't wait for the salt and crap to be off the road to ride again!
Fail: Offset dash, screen or whatever you want to call it.
Also, GSX-S 750 at some point.
Xerdoz looks like a Nintendo game boy style display
Not really cause if you want to put a phone mount on it, it won’t be blocking the dash
nah its either hate it or love it I love it (same as the overall looks of the bike).... the things mentioned in the video are truly bad thus called fails... also as @Jack Z mentions it can be practical
Yeah dials on the right, phone/gps on the left
I love my MT 09! Great raw Power, awesome handling and with some optical changes its a real beast!
No nonsense review, on point, keep em coming (MT-09 owner)
There's nothing wrong with the suspension! Unless you're racing, it's perfect for the road!
No
Not perfect at all. Its a pogo stick tbh. Btw, do you even ride bro?
I'm liking this series! Well done as always guys.
A big fail that wasn't mentioned is the headlight beam pattern at night. If you are in the city with lots of street lights, then no problem. If you are on a dark curvy road at night, then big problem. The headlight beam pattern is terrible in the dark and in a curve. If you do a lot of riding at night on dark roads you will have to add a good set of LED auxilary driving lights to the bike.
Solution (suspensions): 'MT-09 SP ☺✌
Not available in the U.S. unfortunately.
A major fail (IMHO) is the low service interval of 4K miles (on both the MT-07 and MT-09) while others are at least 6K miles. One reason I'm seriously considering trading in my 2016 FZ-07 for a Triumph bike is the large service intervals and the better quality components.
A major fail (of the FZ-07) is the dashboard location on the handlebar. It would be nice if there was some way to relocate this.
A major fail (of the FZ-07) is the smaller than spec gas tank size. I completely ran out of gas and was shocked when the gas pump showed 3.3 gallons when I completely filled the tank (right at the top of the filler tube but not over it).
A minor fail (of the FZ-07) is the cheap and seemingly fragile ignition key, the terrible ignition location and the crazy engine braking (which I believe only happens in the lower gears and under certain conditions but I'm not sure and I don't recall since I've conditioned myself only to engine brake at 4th gear and above and use the clutch and brakes at lower gears).
A major fail of the MT-09 (for me) is how it looks, especially with the engine and other "naked" areas that should highlight the structural beauty. This is one major reason I got the FZ-07 over the FZ-09, even though the FZ-09 ergonomics is better for me (especially when doing long distance riding).
150 cc version of this bike ruled Indian streets between 2010 and 2015. Dont know if it enjoys same popularity now as I moved to USA.
love the format. totally works. also a fan of that yammie triple . woo woo! thanks for the effort and the sharing. thumbs up.
I test road a guys FZ09 for over an hour. The thing was a very fun bike to ride. The suspension though is just utterly terrible. I found some twisties and the bike was so TWITCHY in them. It twitched due to the rear shock then stood up! Thought it was all over when that happened. Needless to say maybe the SP is worth it but the standard is a no go for me. I topped off the fuel tank and returned it to the owner saying it has good aspects but I cannot get over the suspension.
I've been waiting for this.
thanks
So this is becoming my favourite series in youtube now
Make one on the panigale959 and ktm superduke 1290r
Loving the favorites & fails videos!!! keep em coming!!!
love this series!
I had an 09 street triple R, Friend just got the 14 mt-09. we went for a spin and jesus the yamaha goes great. So much more punch over the triumph but the 14 had horrible throttle control down low. Why do bike companies tend to do such a bad job on EFI bikes?
It would have more punch than the Triumph. Its engine is a third larger!
Try B mode if throttle control is too touchy.
Yamaha's inline three is fantastic engine. But I love the growling sound in z900 and Z1000 inline four.
Replace the suspension, reflash the computer, and upgrade the brakes and the Fz09 is very difficult to beat. The rear fender is easy to eliminate, use a 14 -16axle bolt.
Even though this has a lot less editing then your other videos, it is still fantastic. I would love to see more of these pros and cons videos....If I had one wish I would love to see a video on the new sport cruisers that are coming out, like the vulcan s, storm, etc. I have heard they are super fun to ride.
Totally agree about the horn, its the same on my MT07. A guy reversed into me once in his car. As he was coming, in a panic I was trying to hit the horn to warn him and all i ended up doing was switching my lights to hi beam and tuning the indicators on, like a noob. Useless.
That's exactly what I'd be worried about! Glad you were okay.
Any chance you could do a video on engine coolant? Like is it ok to run coolant that is acceptable for the track year round or do you have to worry about corrosion? And is there a coolant that will actually help your bike run cooler like engine ice and different additives? Do they actually work? Thanks.
awdeveau I have engine ice in my supermoto and zx10r most race tracks let you use it and it only needs changed out every couple years. I have not noticed much actually temperature change compared to antifreeze or water with water wetter
jake300win Thanks for the info. I'm originally from Maine and I never noticed the heat so much. But I'm now living in Florida and my bike seems to always be wanting to run hot, most likely because of the traffic and temperature in general. Bike is an Aprilia Tuono V4 1100. Was just curious if any of those additives that advertise that they help the engine run cooler actually work?
Awesome way to start my Tuesday.
picking up my MT09 SP next week, baby ! suspension fixed by yamaha. now just gotta change the goofy turn signals and that thing on the rear tyre and its golden. next thing is get a yoshimura exhaust. im excited
I know it's rare the Ari and Zack do videos on cruiser, but how about doing one on the Kawasaki Vulcan S (it's a Sport Cruiser). I would be interested in both of their thoughts on it. Ride Safe, and have Fun !
One of my good buds just bought one of those within the last month and he really likes his. In all honesty though, there are times when he does feel like he should have gone with a naked bike over the Vulcan S though. With a top speed of less than 110 mph, he realized real quick that he wasnt going to be able to hang with the guys on spirited freeway rides. Also, the Vulcan S, though a sport cruiser, is still a cruiser so fast runs on twisties are not easy without scraping peg at slight lean angles. My buddy has mentioned a few times now that the forward controls get old quick and aren't as comfy as he hoped they'd be. One last thing: aftermarket support sucks with the Vulcan S. Not much out there (even in the exhaust dept.) Btw, the stock exhaust is terribly big and looks horrible. The cat is completely visible from the left side and it looks like shit.
It's definitely a beginner bike. No doubt about that. My advice: Go with a naked bike.
Comfort+Capability=Naked bike
I love my 2017 FZ09 and used Yoshimura tag kit and at 160 pounds the suspension feels great !
Great stuff Ari, makes me want to try another Yamaha triple
I have a 2016 XSR900 and HOLY CRAP, the horn!...It really is in an awkward and distant position and I miss it every time too.
Traction control 1 is okay and does let you loft the wheel like you said, but it'll kick in sometimes when the wheels in the air, slamming the front end down, which is not too fun. I've been shutting it off completely in town and turn it on in the twisties
Spot on. Especially with the horn thing. Damn button seems to be no where like any other motorcycle I have ever owned. LOL
Nice! I think it would be cool if you did a favorites & fails video on something like an older Yamaha R6. I see bikes like that all the time on the market and it would be cool to see your opinion, especially since there are a lot of differences between the new models and the old ones.
You ride one MT09 whith front and rear Ohlins suspensions ? What you think and feel ? (If you ride it)
You"d think Yamaha would "At Least!" offer them as a Option! But as usual they Market the SP. People swallow it like BS! And then they pay $3-$4 K extra (if one is available) for that and a Blue Seat? I'm Out!
im glad you pointed out the weak point of the front forks which is the case with most bikes and of course fully adjustable is a step in the right direction but no adjustments for the rear?
I find Rev bombing people moving into my lane much more effective than hitting the horn, so the position shouldn't be much of a problem
Fuel capacity needs to be considered on the fav/fail list. This bike has the smallest tank of the 850-950cc category and there's no reason it cannot be at least a common 4.5gal/17L tank. Seriously.
Completely agree about horn button
Kawasaki Z900 please!
i love MC garage , i already subscribe and notify is ON for new upload videos ... great job , great videos and simple way to analyze an issue ... that is great , i have learned so much about motorcycles i am car mechanic but this is a whole new world for me , it helps me too much !!!
suggestion : on favorite and fails videos at the end some idle and light revving sound , maybe ride away closing your video it would be great !!!
Please make a video on the triumph bobber it’s my favorite bike ever
lol spot on with the horn button!! Drives me insane on my xsr.
Great videos, can't wait to see the new one!!
Strongly considering this bike at the moment. Ari, do you have any experience with the ZX6R/ZX10R shock swap? Wondering if it truly transforms this bike as everyone claims. After adding an aftermarket shock, do you think the front would be ok? Also, what's your best recommendation to get rid of throttle twitchiness besides a dyno tune if you have personally tried one? Seems like an ECU flash could be a good option.
What... ? .. you dont like the rear fender? Personally i thought that was a great addition and stood the bike out from All others.. i like it 👍
I own the 2015 Fz 07 and me too fail to hit the horn every time I need it!
Omfg that horn button. Nice to know others have the same issue. It gets even worse if you put the Yamaha heated grips on, because the grip's control puts the horn button further away.
Tell me, does traction control prevent the front wheel from lifting? And they also have an error in the instructions for setting up the front fork: 11 clicks - soft, 11 - medium, 0 - hard. I wonder what's right?
One of fav bike in my country INA
Should have raised the forks as the factory did for 2021, then tune suspension - a big wow - to be had, tune for the rest.
It would be pleasing to watch if you guys can do the review of Hasqvarna Vitpilen and ARCH KRGT-1 its one of the quite exotic bikes
Hi Ari, need a video on tyre sealants and whether it will impact the wheel balance. Thanks!
Love my 2017 FZ09. Agree with everything lol.
I got to ride an FZ09 at a Yamaha event a few months ago, and the small switchgear was one thing I didn't like. I thought it made the bike seem cheap. Also, they had a Yamaha accessory "aftermarket" pipe on it which stuck out like a sore thumb at a 45 deg. angle.
How about favs and fails on the Tuono!
So how is the braking and handling on a track..please include this on all your bike reviews?
I have one. One big fail for me is the tank. It’s too small for my liking; so much so that I’ve been wanting to sell it.
I have two BMW motorcyle and the horn switch is in different places...so I hit the horn on one when I am going for the turn indicators and the other, I miss almost every time...would be nice if there was some consistency on this.
This is my second bike, and vs 2007 GSXR600, it's soooooooo much more comfortable.
One thing you forgot to mention is that from 2018 it will be called the MT09 in the USA, the same name as the rest of the world since it was released!
How can I put plate holder under the passenger seat? I'm enjoying don't pay for the toll roads ;)
Good job bro, I’m on my second 2017. Love these things.
you say on 2nd 2017 ,,,so you went through a bike in a year ???
These guys are good! I don't get the technicalities of dyno's and modes, coming from tho old simple; "just ride that thing", school of thought but, they do a good job.
Might as well nail down the XSR-900 and then the big'un, the FZ-10... the now MT-10. Did it mean they'll deliver the SP to the US?
Does it have a slipper clutch? If so, is it standard on all fz 09 models Euro and US?
The European bike has slightly better turn signals. There also an accessory license plate holder that is on the standard location.
Yo dude. Do the 2018 mt 09 man....
Or maybe lump it together with the sp version.
Love your videos man. Its the best of the best. Im not even joking
Just buy the sp version if you want better suspension👌
SP is not available in USA.
I just did :D
I’m so happy I bought this bike.
KTM 390 Duke!!
I rode my buddy's FZ09 for one canyon run. That suspension.... whoa. It is frighteningly bad.
Yeah !! Thanks !
Fender and flashers are the first thing i removed from my fz-09 gives a much better look.
Favorites and fails for MT07 please !!!
Could u guys do a small touring motorcycle shootout or small naked bike shoot out 👍🏻👍🏻
FZ07!!!
Do a Kawasaki z900
Demon....They can't feature the z900 here because there are no fails.
lol. I own one and almost agree! a more comfy seat and a bit more room from peg to muffler other wise the bike is great!
No personality boring lol
I agree with you totally especially the tail is just ugly why they change that? It was good before, anyway I would never buy other than Kawasaki in my personal experience they are not the best looking but the very best quality ? Love Kawa
Do you think if there will be a major update to the bike for 2019?