I’m curious how you apply this to the fear of it never going away. I’m not as afraid of anxiety symptoms so much anymore (I can usually identify them as physical symptoms and allow them). The worries of being in this state for years to come is what gets to me in a very very deep and scary way.
Thanks for this! I think I'm currently experiencing a setback now. I thought I was doing fine the past few days but my symptoms went back up until now. I'll do this now. thanks!!! To all anxiety sufferers, you guys can do this!!!
After practicing these things for weeks, recently I had some “ding” (some scary thoughts) - but immediately (few seconds) was ‘recovered’. Realized that have absolutely no meaning. Few weeks ago those thoughts would throw me back into the pit of anxiety and despair. Yes, yes, yes! It works!!!
The important take away for me about Pavlov’s dog is that the dog’s BODY responded to the sound of the bell by salivating even when the dog knew it wasn’t getting good and wasn’t expecting it. With someone who has panic disorder certain things in the environment or just thinking or worrying about it will cause symptoms. And it will happen even when you’re not worried about it and no longer see it as a threat. You need to dismiss that moment of “oh, oh what is that” and normalize it.
I was 2 years anxiety free and got dinged after a few months of chronic stress. I’m 2 months into my setback and trying to get passed this finally hurdle with intrusive thoughts. This was a great explanation for the extinction process, and another missing piece to understanding all this more completely. Thank you!
anxiety is mixing my symptoms like a dj worst is fainting symptoms and from nothing just feeling terrible detached faint terrible terrible but trying to live with it but when symptoms are high you just can’t sometimes accept it
Thank you! I’ve been working on acceptance of symptoms and trying so hard to be patient as I recover from menopause-induced anxiety disorder. I have made progress, but even though I thought I understood setbacks and bumpy patches as being an expected part of the process, I’ve still been struggling and feeling disappointed when they occur. However, I have a BA in psychology so this video speaks to me and I finally get it when I hear it put in the context of classical conditioning.
Really like all of your videos, been struggling with terrible panic attacks from when I was in military. These are really good tools, probably as strong or stronger than the medications I been taking. You dont have to react to the bell every time. thank you
The trick is making it unimportant. How do you do that when the feelings are so intense and the thoughts come so frequently? And you want them gone so bad?
Perfect analogy and perfectly explained. Thank you. I finally get the whole setback thing now. I know what my trigger is and now I know why the process is what it is each time I face that trigger. It’s reassuring to know the trajectory of it. To think of it in this way.
Hi brother, just need your help. After my second panic attack, i stopped worrying about my symptoms and i started to accept it and i begin to live my life like normal. After that i feels better for almost 1 week plus and now suddenly i started feeling dizziness, feeling exhausted, feverish. Is this how setback feels brother?
I never knew that the dogs were taught to ‘un-learn’ the response!! Even though theoretically I know it’s possible to make new more positive associations and break old conditioning, this somehow has given me fresh inspiration and confidence . Thanks 🙏🙌✨💪✈️
Now I understand why you don’t necessarily call these recurrences “setbacks”. Unless, by ones response, they actually set you back. In fact it sounds like they can actually push you forward! 😃 I am experiencing these; Great explanation.
This was an excellent was of explaining how setbacks and acceptance play a crucial role in the reduction of symptoms in the anxiety condition. There is no other way out. The acquisition phase and extinction phase of the study of Pavlov's dogs is a great way of showing how behaviours can be learned and integrated and more importantly how they can easily unlearned given time and understanding.
I came across this video today..maybe was meant to. I had an experience this morning that had all the fear i previously had like when i struggled to go out. Sensations and thoughts of panic. I decided to go and clean the office..i had to do it to show myself i can go out. Panic that its never going away is a huge fear for me and this sent me running down that rabbit hole again
What if the ding is 24-7? As with chronic dizziness (PPPD) where I am dizzy all day..With the dog example the ding comes up every now and then but not all the time
So will this approach work for chronic pain in my lower body that was caused by chronic stress and anxiety. Seems I'm stuck with the pain for the moment. It was getting better but I kept getting pushed into stress. Also had some sleep deprivation.
So I understand correctly --- you can DARE your body to disregard a THOUGHt as dangerous, a situation a dangerous, a person as dangerous, anything? You dont have to "get to the root" of everything, but can just decondition the response and be on your way? I guess, in a sense, isnt Deconditioning your response the same as "getting to the root" of the trauma? cause youre redefining your body's definition of the situation as traumatic?
I have a question about how this approach, which works very well for me, can intersect and compliment other approaches. Do you take new clients for just 1 or 2 session? I see a therapist locally and we are working in something called Internal family Systems therapy, which is helpful, but sometimes actively triggers my OCD and anxiety by making me think I need to "discover" and "heal" parts of myself and that its the only way to help my seven year depersonalization. Thank you so much for your work on this program :)
This is the best explanation I have heard about this “extinction process” and its effects. But what would be a proper response when these symptoms git you in the middle of the night? When there is pretty much nothing to do or refocus on.
But will our brain ever go back to not finding a meaning to the bell sound again? There was a time, before possible trauma, that our brain wouldn't think to connect the trigger (bell sound) to a certain situation. Are we, now, to always resist the associations our brain makes, or will it eventually stop making the associations?
Wow. You are VERY GOOD! I have fear of not being in control. Like more bodily; and mind. So mind altering stuff is a no way. Alcohol only started to partake shoot 10 years ago; after my kids have grown; but anxiety or panic if more than 2 glasses; so how does someone like me deal with going under anesthesia? 😨
This was so good that O my God it's back I have to run and watch that video o God which video was it I have to do something you nailed it it's really 🤣 when u explain but it's really not when its happening u were right when u said it's a thought then we think why is this happening we dissect it obsessive I stay stuck in it ,o I feel so awful sounds good I hope I will be able to remember to say it hoping that it works
The hardest thing for me is that my heart beats so fast around the clock. Over 100 in pulse At rest. This makes me so scared and my body is so tired all the time but I can't sleep properly. My life is a hell
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It’s not about not getting symptoms, it’s about not reacting negatively to them, becoming desensitized
You are an angel, really. You dont know how much help you give. Thank you
Thanks for this great visual and breakdown. Will watch this on repeat
I’m curious how you apply this to the fear of it never going away. I’m not as afraid of anxiety symptoms so much anymore (I can usually identify them as physical symptoms and allow them). The worries of being in this state for years to come is what gets to me in a very very deep and scary way.
Thanks for this! I think I'm currently experiencing a setback now. I thought I was doing fine the past few days but my symptoms went back up until now. I'll do this now. thanks!!! To all anxiety sufferers, you guys can do this!!!
After practicing these things for weeks, recently I had some “ding” (some scary thoughts) - but immediately (few seconds) was ‘recovered’. Realized that have absolutely no meaning. Few weeks ago those thoughts would throw me back into the pit of anxiety and despair. Yes, yes, yes! It works!!!
Fantastic explanation. Thank you. 🙏🙏🙏
The important take away for me about Pavlov’s dog is that the dog’s BODY responded to the sound of the bell by salivating even when the dog knew it wasn’t getting good and wasn’t expecting it. With someone who has panic disorder certain things in the environment or just thinking or worrying about it will cause symptoms. And it will happen even when you’re not worried about it and no longer see it as a threat. You need to dismiss that moment of “oh, oh what is that” and normalize it.
So so so helpful thank you!!!
I was 2 years anxiety free and got dinged after a few months of chronic stress. I’m 2 months into my setback and trying to get passed this finally hurdle with intrusive thoughts. This was a great explanation for the extinction process, and another missing piece to understanding all this more completely. Thank you!
This is great ❤
This is a brilliantly done video btw. I really relate to that concept of "your body sense danger, and you dont have to do anything about it".
anxiety is mixing my symptoms like a dj worst is fainting symptoms and from nothing just feeling terrible detached faint terrible terrible but trying to live with it but when symptoms are high you just can’t sometimes accept it
Thank you! I’ve been working on acceptance of symptoms and trying so hard to be patient as I recover from menopause-induced anxiety disorder. I have made progress, but even though I thought I understood setbacks and bumpy patches as being an expected part of the process, I’ve still been struggling and feeling disappointed when they occur. However, I have a BA in psychology so this video speaks to me and I finally get it when I hear it put in the context of classical conditioning.
One of the best videos I’ve seen. Good job, Michelle. Dr. Weekes lives on…
This is absolutely amazing....thank you for being so clear
Really like all of your videos, been struggling with terrible panic attacks from when I was in military. These are really good tools, probably as strong or stronger than the medications I been taking. You dont have to react to the bell every time. thank you
The trick is making it unimportant. How do you do that when the feelings are so intense and the thoughts come so frequently? And you want them gone so bad?
You are amazing.. you have been so very helpful in my journey of understanding and dealing with my heightened states.. thank you
Thank you!
Perfect analogy and perfectly explained. Thank you. I finally get the whole setback thing now. I know what my trigger is and now I know why the process is what it is each time I face that trigger. It’s reassuring to know the trajectory of it. To think of it in this way.
Hi brother, just need your help. After my second panic attack, i stopped worrying about my symptoms and i started to accept it and i begin to live my life like normal. After that i feels better for almost 1 week plus and now suddenly i started feeling dizziness, feeling exhausted, feverish. Is this how setback feels brother?
I never knew that the dogs were taught to ‘un-learn’ the response!! Even though theoretically I know it’s possible to make new more positive associations and break old conditioning, this somehow has given me fresh inspiration and confidence . Thanks 🙏🙌✨💪✈️
Now I understand why you don’t necessarily call these recurrences “setbacks”. Unless, by ones response, they actually set you back. In fact it sounds like they can actually push you forward! 😃 I am experiencing these; Great explanation.
Michelle you’re amazing! Love your sense of humour.
Amazing . Brazilian people need this translated .
This was an excellent was of explaining how setbacks and acceptance play a crucial role in the reduction of symptoms in the anxiety condition. There is no other way out. The acquisition phase and extinction phase of the study of Pavlov's dogs is a great way of showing how behaviours can be learned and integrated and more importantly how they can easily unlearned given time and understanding.
So well explained! I see that the word “setback” can be misleading. Thank you very much! ❤
Really needed this. Great explanation.
Love it! Very helpful
I came across this video today..maybe was meant to. I had an experience this morning that had all the fear i previously had like when i struggled to go out. Sensations and thoughts of panic. I decided to go and clean the office..i had to do it to show myself i can go out. Panic that its never going away is a huge fear for me and this sent me running down that rabbit hole again
Anxiety just watching....
What if the ding is 24-7? As with chronic dizziness (PPPD) where I am dizzy all day..With the dog example the ding comes up every now and then but not all the time
So helpful!!!💕
Brilliant video, thank you
wow this is very well explained
This was very informative, thanks a lot!
So will this approach work for chronic pain in my lower body that was caused by chronic stress and anxiety. Seems I'm stuck with the pain for the moment. It was getting better but I kept getting pushed into stress. Also had some sleep deprivation.
Well done video on the subject of set backs. It certainly puts them in perspective.
Makes so much sense, thank you!
I am at this stuck set back place. I was doing so well but that little twinge of dizziness comes along and here I go again. All over again
Magnificent!
DOES ANXIETY MAKE A PERSON FEEL AGITATED AND INABILITY TO SIT STILL OR RELAX?
So I understand correctly --- you can DARE your body to disregard a THOUGHt as dangerous, a situation a dangerous, a person as dangerous, anything? You dont have to "get to the root" of everything, but can just decondition the response and be on your way? I guess, in a sense, isnt Deconditioning your response the same as "getting to the root" of the trauma? cause youre redefining your body's definition of the situation as traumatic?
Hello! Thank you!
I have a question about how this approach, which works very well for me, can intersect and compliment other approaches. Do you take new clients for just 1 or 2 session? I see a therapist locally and we are working in something called Internal family Systems therapy, which is helpful, but sometimes actively triggers my OCD and anxiety by making me think I need to "discover" and "heal" parts of myself and that its the only way to help my seven year depersonalization. Thank you so much for your work on this program :)
This is the best explanation I have heard about this “extinction process” and its effects. But what would be a proper response when these symptoms git you in the middle of the night? When there is pretty much nothing to do or refocus on.
But will our brain ever go back to not finding a meaning to the bell sound again? There was a time, before possible trauma, that our brain wouldn't think to connect the trigger (bell sound) to a certain situation. Are we, now, to always resist the associations our brain makes, or will it eventually stop making the associations?
I wish they have this type of diagram for a human brain.
Wow. You are VERY GOOD!
I have fear of not being in control. Like more bodily; and mind. So mind altering stuff is a no way. Alcohol only started to partake shoot 10 years ago; after my kids have grown; but anxiety or panic if more than 2 glasses; so how does someone like me deal with going under anesthesia? 😨
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This was so good that O my God it's back I have to run and watch that video o God which video was it I have to do something you nailed it it's really 🤣 when u explain but it's really not when its happening u were right when u said it's a thought then we think why is this happening we dissect it obsessive I stay stuck in it ,o I feel so awful sounds good I hope I will be able to remember to say it hoping that it works
The hardest thing for me is that my heart beats so fast around the clock. Over 100 in pulse At rest. This makes me so scared and my body is so tired all the time but I can't sleep properly. My life is a hell
Wow! Great information