I love how Soyeon explicitly targeted the audience rather than the performers. While it's true that she called their performance the worst, she didn't take time to dissect and criticize their performance, but rather, criticize the audience who *knew* the girls' skill and yet still chose to let them through instead of more prepared contestants. She knew that the girls weren't to blame for this when it was the audience that used their votes to humiliate them like this.
She was totally in the right... and the fact that people/audience laughed or called them cute in the end just made the two performers look like a joke. As Soyeon said some better contestants didn't pass and it's just not fair that they did just because they looked cute. Totally supporting Soyeon
I'm a 50 years oldmale, with no experience... I won't show off by telling i have a good ear and i don't think anyone needs a good ear to realize that this performance was just.... too bad 🙈
It's more like Soyeon gets furious with the troll audience LOL.... The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
The way the audience was laughing at them really pissed me off. The amount of votes they got just for being "cute" is actually embarrassing because they were making fun of them. Feel so bad for those girls
I watched this show at the time, and why Soyeon was so mad is because the group that auditioned before them, they were crazy talented, they played the piano, singing, dancing, charisma, all top notch, but neither of them fit the idol visuals - one had short hair and the other was chubbier than your average idol. And the netizens didn't give them any chance and just failed them (which meant that they couldn't participate in the show). So that's why Soyeon was especially mad, because they let go of the people with so much talent, and just clicked for these cute girls who put in little effort. If you're interested, the other girls' performance is definitely worth watching - you can youtube "Kang eunwoo & Song Yerim's River"
Those girls are freaking good, their performance is one of the best entry performances. And I think they didn't vote for them too because of their age which is ridiculous considering their insane talent
Soyeon is someone who is extremely talented and yet had to deal with the audience’s bad voting. She understands the girls like her. I’m sure she’s not actually angry with the girls themselves standing on that stage, but with the audience, cos if anything the audience are gonna make the girls suffer more. If those girls debuted, imagine the hate they’d get for not being ‘good enough’ even thought the AUDIENCE got them on that stage, if anything she’s being merciful,
exactly, if they had passed & the other trainees who showed more skill had failed and the judges didn't shut it down or at least point out this obvious bias the netizens would've had a field day. The entire show would hear no end to the bias, rigging, favoritism and industry plant/nepo baby allegations that the whole thing could've gotten canceled or at the very least if they made it to the debut group, the entire group could be dragged through the mud. The fault would lay on the judges & producers for letting trainees with weak skills debut rather than the audience that voted. I do hope these girls can improve and eventually debut once their ready, but their time isn't now, they know it, the audience knows it and the judges know it. They're not untalented by any means, they just need improvement and training. They're already great dancers and have a lot of charm & potential, once they improve on their vocals & tighten up their technique and find their sound (to me at least this song doesn't fit their vocal range as it stands, it takes experience to find what fits you which is what they're lacking) there's no telling what the future holds.
Also she started in the survival show Produce 101 but didn't make it because let's be honest, she was talented but couldn't get popular enough because she lacked the "visuals" or didn't conform to the beauty standards (consider how pretty all the eventual IOI members were). So it might've been a bit personal for her that these two girls with zero vocal talent got through when others with much better performances couldn't.
It's more like Soyeon gets furious with the troll audience LOL.... The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
This is so sad because their family was there and their family knew that they were bad so for me I know I would be embarrassed. Idk why these trainees who had such short training periods sign up for shows like there are very few example of trainees with short periods that debut and even then singing on key and keeping rhythm should be the basic requirements but I get they let’s these types of trainees pass because they need someone bad
i honestly feel for soyeon here. knowing her history of being called ugly on survival shows and getting constantly rejected from cube just because of that (even though soyeon is insanely insanely talented), i feel like seeing these girls pass just because they're cute was really personal to her and i can't blame her for that
that's so true..she experienced first hand the negative side of pretty.privilege because she did not fit the standard..yet these tone deaf girls get a pass
When those votes reached the over 75 and those doors opened you could see her disappointment about the audience voting. She was especially annoyed because the previous contestants had real talent and you could see she was touched by them but they didn't vote for them because they weren't cute enough and then pass this two just for the fun of it since they are cute while at the same time being cruel to them since they passed them to make clowns out of them.
The way the judges went from smiling to worried as they saw the numbers go up. They were so prepared for this duo to be an audition meme, not actually go through. 💀
If you vote for contestants out of pity, you're not helping them improve. You're telling them that their performance doesn't matter because the world will reward you so that you won't feel bad. I think the clip somehow shows the environment we've created for the next generation. We've failed them miserably.
fr, its mainly tha audiences fault, but dibs to them for being able to speak without crying. also i feel like she could’ve been less harsh, but i understand. there also might not have been another way to explain how it was without the sentence ACTUALLY describing the performance. @@YCHTT
"so that you won't feel bad." - considering even grown adults were sitting there laughing in their faces, I don't think anyone cared about making these girls feel bad.
It's more like Soyeon gets furious with the troll audience LOL.... The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
She literally spoke as if she wasn’t on camera, so real of her 😭 I loved that. I feel like others wouldn’t have the balls to say what she said(about the audience)
Soyeon should be the standard for a mentor. 40 year old males w no survival show experience should not be judging kids. Theres a way to do it w warmth and diligence and make the trainees feel comfortable within their skill and be honest with them while not being rude about it.
@@YCHTT at that kind of situations you have to be super and brutally honest to them this is how its work if you are bad you are bad you can work more about it or you can drop off you have to have the mentality to resist it and keep going if that is your dream
@@Boesisi_548 yeah right. An old man bias a 14 year old girl is cringe. And what the judge said? He said he couldnt take his eyes off wonhee. I was like ewww.
I respect Soyeon so much for this. This was more about her calling out the audience than calling out the contestants. You could tell she really didn't want to berate the girls but it angered her the audience gave her no choice and as such she felt it necessary as an idol and former trainee herself to critique their skills and performance to help them grow properly as professionals rather than coddle and spoil them just as the audience did. I agree korean audience's usually value appearance and concept over skill and talent, which I hope changes in due time after Soyeon did this.
I get why they audience liked them, they were cute and refreshing, but that's just for a variety show. Soyeon was right to not be cruel to the contestants, but she's right that it's not really what will give you longevity and make you a star in the industry. The audience will vote for you once because that's just what's entertaining as a one time thing for a reality show. It won't give you a career.
@grufee Their performance was like watching two 5 year olds and the audience treated them as such. Nothing about their performance was good. The singing was awful, totally off pitch and not even in the right key. And the dancing looked like they just learned the choreography 5min before. No one is naturally talented, everyone has to work hard for it, and if they can't even manage to sound decent, then that means they need more practice. There are so many more talented performers in the competition and it’s not right for these girls to get a pass, just because they’re “cute” and needed to be treated like 5 year old children. No one can build a sustainable career as a professional singer with just pity. They wanna be singers? They need to work hard for it and get their basics down, before trying to get by by their looks alone.
@monsta6501 Why you copying what the top comment says 😂 "i respect soyeon so much for this" thats a good idea though, ima start going on every page and copying what the top comment says but modifying it a bit like you 😂
@@Heaven_2_Hell666 Copying or just simply stating my opinion? Didn't know people like you could read minds and predict other people's intentions over simple TH-cam comments? If your not going to say something smart or productive towards this chat's discussion, then it'd be wise for you to hush up kiddo and take your negative toxicity elsewhere.
@@grufeeThey needed more time to train. In the clip, they didn’t even sing the right keys half the time and their vocal techniques needed plenty of work. If it was one or two minor slip ups then it would have been fine because even senior idols will accidentally sing off key if they’re having an off day. Having things like the charm and energy doesn’t do shit if you can’t do the one thing idols do, sing. The idol industry is a vicious industry and if they do not have the basics down, netizens WILL (and probably already had since this show’s been over for a while now) tear them apart for their lack of training, which has happened plenty of time. Having charm does not cut it, they need to train more and improve their techniques with singing and dancing before they can debut properly. While it is true that not everyone has the build or talent for singing, they’re literally training to professionally sing so they have to sing at least proficiently to not get eaten up in the oversaturated industry. These girls absolutely deserve better than to be subjected to humiliation because the audience basically set them up for failure but let’s be real here, they were not ready to debut in the group this show was for. Yeah, this show was for debuting a group soon after it was done. At the level they were at when this show was airing. Take that into consideration as well.
This moment was a representation of the Kpop industry as we know it. People with no talent debuting because of their visuals & cute appeal while those who don't have the same looks but are very talented are overlooked. Those girls' singing was just nope. Soyeon hit the nail on the head & she did it with such professionalism, honesty & warmth.
Soyeon is a really talented rapper and producer, so she really can get strict when it comes to these because she also was a trainee too. She wants them to be prepared, I hope those two can become great stars in the future. Fighting!!
Soyeon herself came from an idol survival show where despite her proving how talented she is, ranked 20th in the finals due to lack of votes from fans. I'm glad she outranked everyone from Produce 101 in real life.
im sorry but soyeon is right, like leave their voices aside, they didnt even sing at the right time, sometimes they sang faster or slower than the track or mumbling the last letter, like that's the basics for singing
They have no sense of rhythm when it comes go singing, it was so odd, they were good dancers though, so they would be good as backup dancers. But not as performers in a K-Pop group. I don't know what made them think they should be part of this industry when they can't sing.
completely agree with soyeon, but the way the girls handled it was absolutely amazing. they didnt break down into tears on stage, while it was probably the worst feeling in the world, and i respect them so much for that
Soyeon wasn't mad at the girls. The trainees are just trying their best and are not always going to start out perfect, as why training is important. She's mad at the audience for putting these trainees up to a giant expectation when they were not ready. Telling someone they're not ready, is not the same as telling them never. Being aware of your own limitations and other's is important so good on Soyeon for bashing the audience.
literally everyone in this industry is "pretty". its because theyre young, cute and u can see theyre trying that the audience passed them because of pity. stop being salty, literally pulled that out of ur ass
@@annafromtheblock2224 they had the privilege though? the gates opened because the audience thought they were cute in the last part of the song. stop playing dumb bruh
True the only problem is money, because running a music company can cause you millions of money and it will be hard to get that money back since in the music industry everyone is incredibly competitive.
I can imagine what soyeon was feeling at that moment because my thoughts were the exact same - "just what is the audience thinking?" I imagine yuri was also baffled, coming from a company which treasures vocals the most
@i_am_unstoppable0109 That's exactly what I was wondering. We know what Soyeon was thinking, but I wonder what was going through Yuri's mind at that moment. She's been slammed by the public for being "untalented" for most of her career and now she had to witness the public supposedly support two girls that couldn't sing.
"Furious" is a little bit clickbaity... but ok. Soyeon is one of the most talented idols in the industry. She isn't going to put her approval on a performance like that. Nobody else did either.
She had the right to be furious. Not at the girls, mind you - they are just kids chasing their dream - but at the adults who should know better than to enable them and put them in this position. If the doors stayed closed, the girls would have been sad, of course, but making them face the judges, who had to do their job and evaluate them, is unbelievably cruel. The adults in their lives who heard them and still supported them going on a survival program, and every single person who clicked that button, were responsible for their very public humiliation. Also, that girl said "we were perfect yesterday, but it's unfortunate we got a bit nervous in front of the trainers"... that is again a kind of delusion that some doubtless well-intentioned adult is responsible for. Someone should have at the very least told them "I think you should train a bit more before trying to compete on TV". The evaluators should have thought what would happen after they put them in front of the judges. I don't know if Soyeon actually was furious or not, I think she was trying very hard not to show it for the sake of the girls... but I know I for one was mad as hell when I watched that segment. Especially after Song Yerim and Kang Eunwoo killed their performance, and people refused to push the button for what I guess _looked like_ a fat girl and a delinquent, and completely ignored their obvious talent.
@@AmadanMath Ugh I still can't get over the fact that that these so-called evaluators didn't open the gate for Song Yerim and Kang Eunwoo. I was rooting for them so much cus of their insane amount of talent, skills and charisma! Honestly, this was a terrible mistake for MTG to have this stupid gate opening audition segment to be included in the show. It shows how people favor visuals and popularity over actual talent smh... I hope to see Yerim and Eunwoo debut cus I'm desperate to see them again. LET THEM AIM FOR THE CROWN! HWAITING!!! But I really hope to see Kim Seojin and Kim Yeseo to improve, I feel bad for them to be humiliated and maybe traumatized from having to be evaluated from the judges thx to these unresponsible people who opened the gates for them. If I see them in a future survival show, I expect that they grew and improve themselves and make an impressive change to us. Seojin and Yeseo hwaiting!!!!
Soyeon was rejected so many times because people did not like her look. I mean, she looks great now probably because she learnt how to or got someone to do her makeup for her, but Soyeon has gone through the experience of getting hated on just based on your look. No matter how much your teacher said “Dont judge a book by its cover” they’ll always exist people (especially online) who will do just that.
It's more like Soyeon gets furious with the troll audience LOL.... The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
It's even worse when you see the full episode. The team before this were extremely talented and didn't get through because the audience didn't think they were conventionally pretty enough (they were both gorgeous). I think that's why Soyeon was REAL irritated. Rightfully so.
This was the moment that Soyeon gained respect from the whole k-pop world no matter which group or member is their bias. She was 100% correct and everyone knew it! The fact she was willing to speak with conviction as a young, female, k-pop idol herself on tv makes people respect her even more! 👏This belief plus her talent and ability as a rapper, writer, producer etc (again; no matter which group is our bias) has earned her the respect that she deserves! Well done - I wish she was running one of the companies!
The audience voted purposely to humiliate the girls. I feel bad for them, but I'm glad Soyeon called out the audience. She handled it so well! The girls clearly lacked by a lot and everyone was only making fun of them. Soyeon made sure to remind everyone to take this seriously because by joking around, more deserving talents lose opportunities.
What visuals even? hahaha are you trolling? It's more like Soyeon gets furious with the troll audience LOL.... The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
@@YCHTT Soyeon got humiliated about her visuals too. Even Soyeon had PURE TALENT but the company was so strict because she didnt fit the korean standards.
The one thing that strikes me is that she never came across as angry at the girls themselves. She’s right to say that the audience needs to be accountable for who they vote for. Because whatever happens in the end, you cannot blame the girls themselves because they don’t get to vote who wins, that’s on us.
5:56 look at those little eyes, you can tell that everything that instructor is saying is going right into her heart, bless her. Kids that age benefit so much from nurturing and encouragement and I love that the instructor is taking the time to tell her her strong points and potential and also is a bit soothing.
It makes me think if it was out of pity, or just straight mass bullying to humiliate them in front of the judges and public... Korea's bullying culture is no joke
it upsets me too. the audience was like "vote for them because they are cute!!" not at all considering the fact that they're supposed to vote OBJECTIVELY and vote for those who actually show good performances. this was a mess and it does not make sense that the door would open for them. i also hope that trainees who appear on survival shows know how privileged they are to even appear. many trainees would die for an opportunity like this and i hope they know that and take advantage of the situation they're in.
That just proves many kpop fans (in Korea) like when their idols acts like 5 year old cough cough there’s a reason why aeygo still exists there. Anyway a class clown can give a better performance u have to be so delusional to think u sound good to even try and be in a survival show like how were they practicing and thinking wow I sound perfect LMAO 💀
You know the craziest part? That actually makes a case on why Produce 101 was rigged from seasons 2-4, they knew the average Korean dismiss the skill factor when it comes to idols and only care about their looks. That’s why SIXTEEN was a success and is lowkey the blueprint HYBE choose for R U Next, when you do everything in house with controlled interference from public you keep the people you want while building a fanbase for them with the exposure.
Soyeon gets furious with the troll audience LOL.... The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
@@biazachar u next still end up rigging out talented trainees and fan favourites, they arent comparable, same with izone rigging, the two rigged out trainees were talented.
That is so right it's not fair for the audience to pass them given the fact they sounded bad. It's not fair for trainees that did better. Hearing them on stage I can just tell they didn't really give in any effort. It sounded worst than their pactice.
We don't know if they didn't give any effort. I will say they did put in effort but were not ready for the survival show in the first place. They needed more training. I hope they are doing well now
Soyeon gets furious with the troll audience LOL.... The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
It's more like Soyeon gets furious with the troll audience LOL.... The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
Commentaires 401 Ajoutez un commentaire… @NotAvailable-pv4iy il y a 4 jours I respect Soyeon so much for that. And she has the talent and pedigree to back it all. Audience was simply biased or clueless. 1,6 k 5 @Guah00 il y a 2 jours Also she started in the survival show Produce 101 but didn't make it because let's be honest, she was talented but couldn't get popular enough because she lacked the "visuals" or didn't conform to the beauty standards (consider how pretty all the eventual IOI members were). So it might've been a bit personal for her that these two girls with zero vocal talent got through when others with much better performances couldn't. Lire la suite 63 @roboatro17 il y a 1 jour They definitely took pity on them 😭 I mean they’re not deaf and most people were clearly laughing 18 @user-uf6qn2vy1v il y a 1 jour You could see them all laughing at them, they clearly voted as a joke. 10 @Morpheus-X il y a 1 jour It's more like Soyeon gets furious with the troll audience LOL.... The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance. 19 @chimchimbiasedwreckedbyjin4056 il y a 16 heures This is so sad because their family was there and their family knew that they were bad so for me I know I would be embarrassed. Idk why these trainees who had such short training periods sign up for shows like there are very few example of trainees with short periods that debut and even then singing on key and keeping rhythm should be the basic requirements but I get they let’s these types of trainees pass because they need someone bad Lire la suite 1 @ERIC-ml5ux il y a 5 jours Soyeon is a really talented rapper and producer, so she really can get strict when it comes to these because she also was a trainee too. She wants them to be prepared, I hope those two can become great stars in the future. Fighting!! 2,2 k 12 Afficher plus de réponses @singularityly4158 il y a 3 jours She was totally in the right... and the fact that people/audience laughed or called them cute in the end just made the two performers look like a joke. As Soyeon said some better contestants didn't pass and it's just not fair that they did just because they looked cute. Totally supporting Soyeon
@@YCHTTit’s true cuz the audience WERE at fault, like yes these girls sucked but with more training they can be good but it’s the fact that the audience vote for them RIGHT NOW when they’re lacking and only has looks is what made me and soyeon furious, and ur right the audience voting for them is literally setting them up for humiliation and hate💀 if they were to actually made it, they’re gonna struggle and people are gonna judge them and hate on them cuz of their lack of skills too so it’s good that they got out early, hope they can train and debut in the future when they’re better
the fact that the audience didn’t care about those who were extremely talent just because they supposedly “didn’t meet the standards” is absurd. i hate how they only cared about the looks. Soyeon told them off like a BOSS
Soyeon gets furious with the troll audience LOL.... The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
pls don't have hates on soyeon. She herself went thru all this as a trainee as well and she got lots of hate at that time due to her looks even though her stage performance was very well done. She jus find it unfair for those potential trainee that didn't get the gate open for them 😭the audience are lowkey going for the looks ngl
Even this title is so misleading... It's more like Soyeon gets furious with the troll audience LOL.... The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
This is exactly why I love Soyeon. The audience should not have voted for them just because they know them, they pity them, or they think it’s “funny”. If those girls were to debut they would be a laughingstock, and they would be humiliated. Soyeon handled that like a boss, and instead of coming for the performers she addressed the situation with the audience and told them to be responsible in pressing the button because it is a privilege and you should pay attention to talent not visuals.
I just remembered what xiumin said for being an idol even you are great in dancing but if your singing is worst it’s doesn’t look good because for the idol singing is the 1st priority but doesn’t mean you can dance anyhow dance also the important factor for an idol
yeah that's what i had observed before when i was watching pd and other survival shows. you can really tell who's bad at singing when they are performing than those who can't dance
I think that Soyeon understands how much hard work goes into being a trainee and doesnt feel that pitying them will get them anywhere. Some people obviously felt bad for them so they clicked the button, but others may really have thought they were just cute. but that means nothing in the long run. Soyeon was right to put the audience in their place, because they also have a hand in making these idol's dreams come true, but they shouldnt delude them. There are so many people that work hard to get where they are, to disregard their hard work because they pity these girls is even more hurtful
She was even more mad though because just before that that same audience failed a group that was insanely talented, singinf, playing instruments, charisma. But they just didnt fit the korean beauty standarts. And then they passed these girls who where just cute. That was when she snapped.
I totally understand Soyeon, she is strict but it's for their best, if they don't perform well on stage and then debut they will be subject to humiliation and hate by netizens, it was better for them not to debut now and work on improving their skills. Who knows? The girls might improve in the future and prove everyone wrong, nonetheless Soyeon is an excellent judge, we need more judges like her in the other survival shows.
It's more like Soyeon gets furious with the troll audience LOL.... The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
@@YCHTTShe was speechless and clearly upset even before the door was opened because of the fact that these girls even dared to come here when obviously knowing what's the matter here. And she cant help but say it when the door actually opened.
Nah, she's absolutely right. Especially about the fact that some other people didn't get to even be seen. These girls were off beat and clearly out of breath during most of the performance. They just were not ready, and I hope for the best for them, but to give them a better shot at passing than people who are less aesthetically pleasing is unfair and -as Soyeon was implying- irresponsible.
Soyeon really made a point here ❤. The KPOP industry today is getting more broad and the standards are getting high. They really have to step up because they have to keep up with the industry's standards, they will be the future of this industry. ❤
The way both the girls just respected the judges opinion even tho they don't get any points and they still said thank was very brave. I hope they work hard and achieve their dreams bcuz they both have potential to handle the criticism and hate.
@@eyeblessing2166this! I don't watch the show bcs I'm sure this show is just a scenario from HYBE to introduce their new gg (with the-already-chosen-trainees)
Everybody in the audience that pushed the button should feel ashamed. I got sick watching people laugh while voting, just to for the fun of it. I am so so so impressed with Soyeon, she remained calm and even tried to appeal to the audience. She is so amazing.
Soyeon is 100% fair... Yes she said it was the worst performance, but i imagine that's true, so it's just a fact.. She attacks the audience (and she is right) but what is there to say about the person who decided to put them in this situation ? And poor Soyeon with her talent for producing, when we see her pointing every detail for her members... Her face was just "what the f... Am i doing here ?"
It's more like Soyeon gets furious with the troll audience LOL.... The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
Audience did these two girls dirty. The only reason the passed them was for amusement and ridicule, not talent. Soyeon's reaction towards the audience and the two girls' ability is justified. They needed more training, hopefully they stick with it.
Soyeon spitting facts. Like.... there are sooooo many sob stories in kpop like them who are really talented and probably trained so much harder. It really wasn't fair that the audience voted for them
Dang! I like Soyeon because she's an amazing rapper and lyricist, but now I love her for having the guts to say that knowing how toxic some people are in SK. Bruh, if anyone attacks her because of what she has said, I will freakin' defend her 100%. Everything she said is a fact. Voters, be responsible!!
I love how they critique but also give them motivation. I don't see a lot of that in these survival shows and always feel bad for the contestants when they want to give up
how did the MC keep his cool while announcing the votes ? i would've laughed immediately if i was him , anyways , these girls aren't trained enough and it shows , the blame is on the audience who gave them a little bit of hope by opening the gate when they know quite well that these two ain't going anywhere but home .
@@Kingridnextdoor idk it's hella funny , and I'm sure you're saying this cause you aren't in that situation....what did they even expect ? That they'll get 4 votes ?😂 The mc was saying how both of them got 0 votes if I had to say that out loud i would've laughed hard .
It's more like Soyeon gets furious with the troll audience LOL.... The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
I completely agree with her she knows what it takes to be in the industry because she's in it and she's succeeding at it. Honestly their dancing wasn't bad and their facial expressions were good to me it seems like if they work on singing they will be in a much better position than currently. Also just have to add that Soyeon looks STUNNING!!
Soyeon is right for calling out the evaluation team. The two girls that went before these two girls were waaaay better, but sadly, the gate didn’t open which I was really shocked at because the last two girls’ voices and dances were extremely good, and they both played the piano really efficiently. It’s a shame the evaluation team picked the two girls in this video for just visuals and not talent like the other two last girls had.
It’s like the audience wanted those girls to get harsh comments by judges. They didn’t care about how bad the performance was they just wanted to not take their responsibilities seriously like soyeon said. I’d be mad too.
soyeon is just being honest, if you notice she never laughed she did smile because she's awkwardly thinking how to tell the girls without offending them much - knowing the truth at first is better than never - now its up to both of them if they still want to pursue their dream or not
Its not that Soyeon was frustrated with the girls but she was frustrated with the audience for voting for the girls when they clearly haven't had enough training and still need to practice. If those girls were to debut they would get a big load of hate due to them not being ready.
Soyeon needed to be on R U Rigged. She is extremely talented person as a judge even. She knows how to spot out mistakes without getting someone seriously offended. I loved how she pointed out the audience needed to be responsible with the button not the performers who were their TO BE JUDGED.
soyeon rlly doesnt deserve this hate infact she should act get praised for it many idles hold back she doesnt that makes her the ace and queen of the 4th gen
I'm just thinking about the poor girls, Soyeon is right but I mean the audience was really rude to do that and make the girls look like a joke. one of them was already crying because she knew they weren't singing that well and yet everyone was giving votes :(
Soyeon might think: " WTF is this. I'm doing my best in a survival show and still get early eliminated. You think you pass perform like this? No girls."😂
It's more like Soyeon gets furious with the troll audience LOL.... The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
I agree with soyeon right here, her opinion really saved these girls from further humiliation as well as telling the audience to not be wasting the judges time.
Pretty privilege in South Korea scares sh t out of me. They'll pass it for cute but untalanted ones who dont even mind to get better but ignore the "ugly" ones who practised hard and have better skills. Let's not lie if Soyeon didny talk about it these 2 would easily pass and stay in the show. And if these 2 were "ugly" no one would say they are cute and giggle about it but backlash them a lot
Are they even pretty tho…. I don’t wanna be mean or anything but they are indeed in the cute side but definitely not pretty, at least not enough when you see the horrible korean standards.
It's so sad that you can't look unique in SK without being so called "ugly" 😭 looks aside, it scares the sh t out of me that mediocrity from conventionally attractive people is highly praised is SK nowadays and there's somehow more warm welcoming room for pretty people who lack musical talent and less space for the unique ones who can truly shine. Not to say that it's always that way, but it seems to be fairly common.
It's very obvious why Soyeon criticized the audience and the girls. They were definitely not confident. Their singing was off key and off beat and their voices sounded very quiet. I don't understand why they opened the gate JUST because they were "cute". It's not that easy to be accepted by the public, especially with international fans because more international fans rely way more on talent than visuals. The girls seriously need to improve if they ever want to be an idol.
I mean it's totally possible to be confident and lack musical talent tbh. These girls just didn't get to that WOW level yet and clearly need more training.
I love Soyeon for being not mad at the girls- who didn’t train long enough- but at the audience. She genuinely looks at the talent and not the KBS or the cute faces. I think Soyeon is one of the best idols.
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I love how Soyeon explicitly targeted the audience rather than the performers. While it's true that she called their performance the worst, she didn't take time to dissect and criticize their performance, but rather, criticize the audience who *knew* the girls' skill and yet still chose to let them through instead of more prepared contestants.
She knew that the girls weren't to blame for this when it was the audience that used their votes to humiliate them like this.
Yes this is the right answer for this video
@@Broken_devil14why? Genuinely curious
Oof, that is the net result of voting for them, whether the intention for any one audience member or not their intention
@@love_me_miguel because that user is a blink and blackpink fans are toxic. That person prefers singers with visuals that lip sync over talent
@@Broken_devil14never.
She was totally in the right... and the fact that people/audience laughed or called them cute in the end just made the two performers look like a joke. As Soyeon said some better contestants didn't pass and it's just not fair that they did just because they looked cute. Totally supporting Soyeon
I'm a 50 years oldmale, with no experience... I won't show off by telling i have a good ear and i don't think anyone needs a good ear to realize that this performance was just.... too bad 🙈
I know but they looked like they were making fun of them which might not be good for them if they look back at this yk
@@ImsanabaeThat's what OP is saying. Those girls will struggle to recover from this and might struggle even more if they see these clips.
It's more like Soyeon gets furious with the troll audience LOL.... The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
The way the audience was laughing at them really pissed me off. The amount of votes they got just for being "cute" is actually embarrassing because they were making fun of them. Feel so bad for those girls
I watched this show at the time, and why Soyeon was so mad is because the group that auditioned before them, they were crazy talented, they played the piano, singing, dancing, charisma, all top notch, but neither of them fit the idol visuals - one had short hair and the other was chubbier than your average idol. And the netizens didn't give them any chance and just failed them (which meant that they couldn't participate in the show). So that's why Soyeon was especially mad, because they let go of the people with so much talent, and just clicked for these cute girls who put in little effort.
If you're interested, the other girls' performance is definitely worth watching - you can youtube "Kang eunwoo & Song Yerim's River"
Those girls are freaking good, their performance is one of the best entry performances.
And I think they didn't vote for them too because of their age which is ridiculous considering their insane talent
And also don't forget Eunwoo has tattoos, which is enough in Korea to make a lot of people overlook any amazing skills
I just watched it after reading your comment, and I couldn't agree more!!
can you send a link of the previous performance?
@@goldenhourss look at the end of the original comment, they indicated what to type on the TH-cam search bar to find it
Soyeon is someone who is extremely talented and yet had to deal with the audience’s bad voting. She understands the girls like her. I’m sure she’s not actually angry with the girls themselves standing on that stage, but with the audience, cos if anything the audience are gonna make the girls suffer more. If those girls debuted, imagine the hate they’d get for not being ‘good enough’ even thought the AUDIENCE got them on that stage, if anything she’s being merciful,
exactly, if they had passed & the other trainees who showed more skill had failed and the judges didn't shut it down or at least point out this obvious bias the netizens would've had a field day. The entire show would hear no end to the bias, rigging, favoritism and industry plant/nepo baby allegations that the whole thing could've gotten canceled or at the very least if they made it to the debut group, the entire group could be dragged through the mud. The fault would lay on the judges & producers for letting trainees with weak skills debut rather than the audience that voted.
I do hope these girls can improve and eventually debut once their ready, but their time isn't now, they know it, the audience knows it and the judges know it. They're not untalented by any means, they just need improvement and training. They're already great dancers and have a lot of charm & potential, once they improve on their vocals & tighten up their technique and find their sound (to me at least this song doesn't fit their vocal range as it stands, it takes experience to find what fits you which is what they're lacking) there's no telling what the future holds.
Well said! Totally agree
I respect Soyeon so much for that. And she has the talent and pedigree to back it all. Audience was simply biased or clueless.
Also she started in the survival show Produce 101 but didn't make it because let's be honest, she was talented but couldn't get popular enough because she lacked the "visuals" or didn't conform to the beauty standards (consider how pretty all the eventual IOI members were). So it might've been a bit personal for her that these two girls with zero vocal talent got through when others with much better performances couldn't.
They definitely took pity on them 😭 I mean they’re not deaf and most people were clearly laughing
You could see them all laughing at them, they clearly voted as a joke.
It's more like Soyeon gets furious with the troll audience LOL.... The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
This is so sad because their family was there and their family knew that they were bad so for me I know I would be embarrassed. Idk why these trainees who had such short training periods sign up for shows like there are very few example of trainees with short periods that debut and even then singing on key and keeping rhythm should be the basic requirements but I get they let’s these types of trainees pass because they need someone bad
i honestly feel for soyeon here. knowing her history of being called ugly on survival shows and getting constantly rejected from cube just because of that (even though soyeon is insanely insanely talented), i feel like seeing these girls pass just because they're cute was really personal to her and i can't blame her for that
@@YCHTT Bro what? You are copying and pasteing this comment everywhere...
that's so true..she experienced first hand the negative side of pretty.privilege because she did not fit the standard..yet these tone deaf girls get a pass
What shows was SoYeon on??
@@IIRagnaTheBloodEdge Fool what? That only means people are commenting the SAME topic/discussion "everywhere" instead of under one thread.
@@bangtankid2230 She has been on few mainly Produce 101 and Unpretty Rapstar,
best judges in history, all their facial expressions say it all, but for soyeon to openly express how she disliked it was amazing
When those votes reached the over 75 and those doors opened you could see her disappointment about the audience voting.
She was especially annoyed because the previous contestants had real talent and you could see she was touched by them but they didn't vote for them because they weren't cute enough and then pass this two just for the fun of it since they are cute while at the same time being cruel to them since they passed them to make clowns out of them.
The way the judges went from smiling to worried as they saw the numbers go up. They were so prepared for this duo to be an audition meme, not actually go through. 💀
:v
If you vote for contestants out of pity, you're not helping them improve. You're telling them that their performance doesn't matter because the world will reward you so that you won't feel bad. I think the clip somehow shows the environment we've created for the next generation. We've failed them miserably.
The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
fr, its mainly tha audiences fault, but dibs to them for being able to speak without crying. also i feel like she could’ve been less harsh, but i understand. there also might not have been another way to explain how it was without the sentence ACTUALLY describing the performance. @@YCHTT
Wdym they were excellent, only pity one are you
Visual over potentials
"so that you won't feel bad." - considering even grown adults were sitting there laughing in their faces, I don't think anyone cared about making these girls feel bad.
Someone put Soyeon as main judge in R U next. Because they seriously need someone just like her. Girl gave everyone internal peace❤
It's more like Soyeon gets furious with the troll audience LOL.... The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
Actually yes
To late now wonhee is part of the lineup😐
She literally spoke as if she wasn’t on camera, so real of her 😭 I loved that. I feel like others wouldn’t have the balls to say what she said(about the audience)
R U next need Soyeon
Soyeon spoke very nicely. She basically asked everyone "Are you deaf?" 😂
관객들은 정말 재능보다는 비주얼을 꼽더군요. 소연이 청중을 부르는 방식이 너무 좋아요.
청중은 심각하게 눈이 멀어 재능을 보지 못합니다
Sorry but even the visuals weren't that great. They have long ways to go when it comes to performing.
They’re visuals were average at best compared to other contestants on the show but okay
@@Bunny_xoxo. later they are gonna judge and hate them
They weren’t chosen for their visuals, but the meme they made
Soyeon should be the standard for a mentor. 40 year old males w no survival show experience should not be judging kids. Theres a way to do it w warmth and diligence and make the trainees feel comfortable within their skill and be honest with them while not being rude about it.
The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
runext for example.,. that show was so bad
@@beautifulgorgeousmanlmao Lee Hyun's biased ass
@@YCHTT at that kind of situations you have to be super and brutally honest to them this is how its work if you are bad you are bad you can work more about it or you can drop off you have to have the mentality to resist it and keep going if that is your dream
@@Boesisi_548 yeah right. An old man bias a 14 year old girl is cringe. And what the judge said? He said he couldnt take his eyes off wonhee. I was like ewww.
I respect Soyeon so much for this. This was more about her calling out the audience than calling out the contestants. You could tell she really didn't want to berate the girls but it angered her the audience gave her no choice and as such she felt it necessary as an idol and former trainee herself to critique their skills and performance to help them grow properly as professionals rather than coddle and spoil them just as the audience did. I agree korean audience's usually value appearance and concept over skill and talent, which I hope changes in due time after Soyeon did this.
I get why they audience liked them, they were cute and refreshing, but that's just for a variety show. Soyeon was right to not be cruel to the contestants, but she's right that it's not really what will give you longevity and make you a star in the industry. The audience will vote for you once because that's just what's entertaining as a one time thing for a reality show. It won't give you a career.
@grufee Their performance was like watching two 5 year olds and the audience treated them as such. Nothing about their performance was good. The singing was awful, totally off pitch and not even in the right key. And the dancing looked like they just learned the choreography 5min before. No one is naturally talented, everyone has to work hard for it, and if they can't even manage to sound decent, then that means they need more practice. There are so many more talented performers in the competition and it’s not right for these girls to get a pass, just because they’re “cute” and needed to be treated like 5 year old children. No one can build a sustainable career as a professional singer with just pity. They wanna be singers? They need to work hard for it and get their basics down, before trying to get by by their looks alone.
@monsta6501 Why you copying what the top comment says 😂 "i respect soyeon so much for this" thats a good idea though, ima start going on every page and copying what the top comment says but modifying it a bit like you 😂
@@Heaven_2_Hell666 Copying or just simply stating my opinion? Didn't know people like you could read minds and predict other people's intentions over simple TH-cam comments? If your not going to say something smart or productive towards this chat's discussion, then it'd be wise for you to hush up kiddo and take your negative toxicity elsewhere.
@@grufeeThey needed more time to train. In the clip, they didn’t even sing the right keys half the time and their vocal techniques needed plenty of work. If it was one or two minor slip ups then it would have been fine because even senior idols will accidentally sing off key if they’re having an off day. Having things like the charm and energy doesn’t do shit if you can’t do the one thing idols do, sing. The idol industry is a vicious industry and if they do not have the basics down, netizens WILL (and probably already had since this show’s been over for a while now) tear them apart for their lack of training, which has happened plenty of time. Having charm does not cut it, they need to train more and improve their techniques with singing and dancing before they can debut properly. While it is true that not everyone has the build or talent for singing, they’re literally training to professionally sing so they have to sing at least proficiently to not get eaten up in the oversaturated industry. These girls absolutely deserve better than to be subjected to humiliation because the audience basically set them up for failure but let’s be real here, they were not ready to debut in the group this show was for. Yeah, this show was for debuting a group soon after it was done. At the level they were at when this show was airing. Take that into consideration as well.
This moment was a representation of the Kpop industry as we know it. People with no talent debuting because of their visuals & cute appeal while those who don't have the same looks but are very talented are overlooked. Those girls' singing was just nope. Soyeon hit the nail on the head & she did it with such professionalism, honesty & warmth.
Her whole speech, as painful as it might be for those 2 contestants and their families, was absolutely correct.
Soyeon is a really talented rapper and producer, so she really can get strict when it comes to these because she also was a trainee too. She wants them to be prepared, I hope those two can become great stars in the future. Fighting!!
@@kpop6600 nope this was aired on december 2021
@@kpop6600 There was also another show but it was the male version of it. Soyeon is also a judge for it.
@@_soyaa_boon_5208 what is it called
@@_soyaa_boon_5208can you share the name of this show??
@@loveloveloveloveeefantasy boy i think
Soyeon herself came from an idol survival show where despite her proving how talented she is, ranked 20th in the finals due to lack of votes from fans. I'm glad she outranked everyone from Produce 101 in real life.
@@YCHTT boy we get it stop commenting the same shit under every comment
@@tanishthajaiswal8928 You have a choice, leave? Or go fix your toilet.
@@YCHTT tf is that comeback 💀
@@YCHTT That doesn't even make sense 😭
@@YCHTT I don't know wtf you just said. But it was funny to me so I liked the comment
mad respect to soyeon. idols like are will help changing this toxic, disgusting industry
what is the show name.?
@@sampadab.1788 my teenage girl
' my teenage girl'.
Honestly, Soyeon did the right thing. She’s definitely saving them from the hate and ridicule they’ll get if they do debut.
im sorry but soyeon is right, like leave their voices aside, they didnt even sing at the right time, sometimes they sang faster or slower than the track or mumbling the last letter, like that's the basics for singing
Don't be sorry for voicing your opinion
whats the name of the song?
They have no sense of rhythm when it comes go singing, it was so odd, they were good dancers though, so they would be good as backup dancers. But not as performers in a K-Pop group. I don't know what made them think they should be part of this industry when they can't sing.
@@lisathemonster5875 Nonstop by Oh My Girl
@@ArianeM-gk2vp You should watch the original choreo from Oh My Girl, these girls were nowhere close. That performance was downright painful.
I respect how SOYEON is always there to make sure the trainees know what they need to improve
completely agree with soyeon, but the way the girls handled it was absolutely amazing. they didnt break down into tears on stage, while it was probably the worst feeling in the world, and i respect them so much for that
Soyeon wasn't mad at the girls. The trainees are just trying their best and are not always going to start out perfect, as why training is important. She's mad at the audience for putting these trainees up to a giant expectation when they were not ready. Telling someone they're not ready, is not the same as telling them never. Being aware of your own limitations and other's is important so good on Soyeon for bashing the audience.
The example of pretty privilege ...SOYEON MY GIRL ALWAYS BREAKING THE INDUSTRY STANDARDS
You sound salty lmao.
Also they didn't pass fyi
literally everyone in this industry is "pretty". its because theyre young, cute and u can see theyre trying that the audience passed them because of pity. stop being salty, literally pulled that out of ur ass
@@annafromtheblock2224it's not salty when it's the truth.
@@nagyuz usually when people talk about some kind of privilege, it's sth they don't have. If the girls had privilege they'd pass.
@@annafromtheblock2224 they had the privilege though? the gates opened because the audience thought they were cute in the last part of the song. stop playing dumb bruh
That’s why seyeon is one of the best she can actually have her own agency and company she have what it takes to be a boss
I don’t doubt she have a whole plan in mind for when their contracts with CUBE are over and the girls will without a doubt follow along.
True the only problem is money, because running a music company can cause you millions of money and it will be hard to get that money back since in the music industry everyone is incredibly competitive.
@@tapmypfpvi think seoyeon is rich than her members. I mean most.
Yesss, I'm excited to see what she does after Cube (whenever that day comes around)
@@ljaohnxd795 i know yuqi participates in many shows or events in china where they dump money onto idols tho...
they're prolly still all rich tho ngl
소연은 사실만 말했다. 재능이 없어서 표를 받은 게 아니라 '귀엽다'는 표를 받았다.
I can imagine what soyeon was feeling at that moment because my thoughts were the exact same - "just what is the audience thinking?" I imagine yuri was also baffled, coming from a company which treasures vocals the most
May I know which show is this?
@@i_am_unstoppable0109 it's called "My Teenage Girl" ☺️
@i_am_unstoppable0109 That's exactly what I was wondering. We know what Soyeon was thinking, but I wonder what was going through Yuri's mind at that moment. She's been slammed by the public for being "untalented" for most of her career and now she had to witness the public supposedly support two girls that couldn't sing.
@@floraflowers I'm wondering what does she think of Shuhua.
"Furious" is a little bit clickbaity... but ok. Soyeon is one of the most talented idols in the industry. She isn't going to put her approval on a performance like that. Nobody else did either.
She had the right to be furious. Not at the girls, mind you - they are just kids chasing their dream - but at the adults who should know better than to enable them and put them in this position. If the doors stayed closed, the girls would have been sad, of course, but making them face the judges, who had to do their job and evaluate them, is unbelievably cruel. The adults in their lives who heard them and still supported them going on a survival program, and every single person who clicked that button, were responsible for their very public humiliation. Also, that girl said "we were perfect yesterday, but it's unfortunate we got a bit nervous in front of the trainers"... that is again a kind of delusion that some doubtless well-intentioned adult is responsible for. Someone should have at the very least told them "I think you should train a bit more before trying to compete on TV". The evaluators should have thought what would happen after they put them in front of the judges.
I don't know if Soyeon actually was furious or not, I think she was trying very hard not to show it for the sake of the girls... but I know I for one was mad as hell when I watched that segment. Especially after Song Yerim and Kang Eunwoo killed their performance, and people refused to push the button for what I guess _looked like_ a fat girl and a delinquent, and completely ignored their obvious talent.
@@AmadanMath Ugh I still can't get over the fact that that these so-called evaluators didn't open the gate for Song Yerim and Kang Eunwoo. I was rooting for them so much cus of their insane amount of talent, skills and charisma! Honestly, this was a terrible mistake for MTG to have this stupid gate opening audition segment to be included in the show. It shows how people favor visuals and popularity over actual talent smh... I hope to see Yerim and Eunwoo debut cus I'm desperate to see them again. LET THEM AIM FOR THE CROWN! HWAITING!!!
But I really hope to see Kim Seojin and Kim Yeseo to improve, I feel bad for them to be humiliated and maybe traumatized from having to be evaluated from the judges thx to these unresponsible people who opened the gates for them. If I see them in a future survival show, I expect that they grew and improve themselves and make an impressive change to us. Seojin and Yeseo hwaiting!!!!
Soyeon was rejected so many times because people did not like her look. I mean, she looks great now probably because she learnt how to or got someone to do her makeup for her, but Soyeon has gone through the experience of getting hated on just based on your look. No matter how much your teacher said “Dont judge a book by its cover” they’ll always exist people (especially online) who will do just that.
It's more like Soyeon gets furious with the troll audience LOL.... The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
@@AmadanMathvery well said
It's even worse when you see the full episode. The team before this were extremely talented and didn't get through because the audience didn't think they were conventionally pretty enough (they were both gorgeous). I think that's why Soyeon was REAL irritated. Rightfully so.
The river team were extremely talented 😢. I was so mad they didn't pass the audition.
What's the name of the show
@@thundercat5998 'My Teenage Girl'
this is the judge you want in ever competation seoyon is so straight forward
This was the moment that Soyeon gained respect from the whole k-pop world no matter which group or member is their bias. She was 100% correct and everyone knew it! The fact she was willing to speak with conviction as a young, female, k-pop idol herself on tv makes people respect her even more! 👏This belief plus her talent and ability as a rapper, writer, producer etc (again; no matter which group is our bias) has earned her the respect that she deserves! Well done - I wish she was running one of the companies!
The audience voted purposely to humiliate the girls. I feel bad for them, but I'm glad Soyeon called out the audience. She handled it so well! The girls clearly lacked by a lot and everyone was only making fun of them. Soyeon made sure to remind everyone to take this seriously because by joking around, more deserving talents lose opportunities.
Girl just called out the voting team and said straight that talent > visuals. She is not scared to speak facts
What visuals even? hahaha are you trolling? It's more like Soyeon gets furious with the troll audience LOL.... The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
@@YCHTT Soyeon got humiliated about her visuals too. Even Soyeon had PURE TALENT but the company was so strict because she didnt fit the korean standards.
@@ChososmunchOkay what you said didn't make sense at all & it has nothing to do with what I wrote nor the 2 trainees &/ troll audience.
@@YCHTTcan't you just be quiet? you are talking nonsense.
@@callistasing For a fool like you everyone speaks nonsense. Now go do your homework.
The one thing that strikes me is that she never came across as angry at the girls themselves.
She’s right to say that the audience needs to be accountable for who they vote for. Because whatever happens in the end, you cannot blame the girls themselves because they don’t get to vote who wins, that’s on us.
5:56 look at those little eyes, you can tell that everything that instructor is saying is going right into her heart, bless her. Kids that age benefit so much from nurturing and encouragement and I love that the instructor is taking the time to tell her her strong points and potential and also is a bit soothing.
This is actually so sad.. the fact that the audience knew they were no good but still voted them out of pity
Not necessarily bc pity, They voted bc they thought it was funny 8:49
It makes me think if it was out of pity, or just straight mass bullying to humiliate them in front of the judges and public... Korea's bullying culture is no joke
pretty sure they were trolling
Pity doesn't feed them in future. They need to remember this isn't a gag show or some skit to vote how funny they are...
it upsets me too. the audience was like "vote for them because they are cute!!" not at all considering the fact that they're supposed to vote OBJECTIVELY and vote for those who actually show good performances. this was a mess and it does not make sense that the door would open for them. i also hope that trainees who appear on survival shows know how privileged they are to even appear. many trainees would die for an opportunity like this and i hope they know that and take advantage of the situation they're in.
That just proves many kpop fans (in Korea) like when their idols acts like 5 year old cough cough there’s a reason why aeygo still exists there. Anyway a class clown can give a better performance u have to be so delusional to think u sound good to even try and be in a survival show like how were they practicing and thinking wow I sound perfect LMAO 💀
You know the craziest part? That actually makes a case on why Produce 101 was rigged from seasons 2-4, they knew the average Korean dismiss the skill factor when it comes to idols and only care about their looks. That’s why SIXTEEN was a success and is lowkey the blueprint HYBE choose for R U Next, when you do everything in house with controlled interference from public you keep the people you want while building a fanbase for them with the exposure.
Soyeon gets furious with the troll audience LOL.... The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
Yeah and it probably traumatized those poor girls
@@biazachar u next still end up rigging out talented trainees and fan favourites, they arent comparable, same with izone rigging, the two rigged out trainees were talented.
Soyeon... we need you in the Universe Ticket. PLEASEEEE
And this ladies and gentlemen is why i love Soyeon. She just keeps it real
Please which show is this
@@derbyaboagye434My Teenage Girl
@@derbyaboagye434 If you dont know yet, its called My Teenage Girl
That is so right it's not fair for the audience to pass them given the fact they sounded bad. It's not fair for trainees that did better. Hearing them on stage I can just tell they didn't really give in any effort. It sounded worst than their pactice.
More than the effort I would say they don't know how to sing
We don't know if they didn't give any effort. I will say they did put in effort but were not ready for the survival show in the first place. They needed more training. I hope they are doing well now
Feels like it's rigged for some drama tbh
Soyeon gets furious with the troll audience LOL.... The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
@@kazuko8766I agree
Soyeon was right because she knew who should get the chance because she had tried so hard since she was the same age as those two girls 👍
It's more like Soyeon gets furious with the troll audience LOL.... The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
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I respect Soyeon so much for that. And she has the talent and pedigree to back it all. Audience was simply biased or clueless.
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Also she started in the survival show Produce 101 but didn't make it because let's be honest, she was talented but couldn't get popular enough because she lacked the "visuals" or didn't conform to the beauty standards (consider how pretty all the eventual IOI members were). So it might've been a bit personal for her that these two girls with zero vocal talent got through when others with much better performances couldn't.
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They definitely took pity on them 😭 I mean they’re not deaf and most people were clearly laughing
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You could see them all laughing at them, they clearly voted as a joke.
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It's more like Soyeon gets furious with the troll audience LOL.... The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
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@chimchimbiasedwreckedbyjin4056
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This is so sad because their family was there and their family knew that they were bad so for me I know I would be embarrassed. Idk why these trainees who had such short training periods sign up for shows like there are very few example of trainees with short periods that debut and even then singing on key and keeping rhythm should be the basic requirements but I get they let’s these types of trainees pass because they need someone bad
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@ERIC-ml5ux
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Soyeon is a really talented rapper and producer, so she really can get strict when it comes to these because she also was a trainee too. She wants them to be prepared, I hope those two can become great stars in the future. Fighting!!
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@singularityly4158
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She was totally in the right... and the fact that people/audience laughed or called them cute in the end just made the two performers look like a joke. As Soyeon said some better contestants didn't pass and it's just not fair that they did just because they looked cute. Totally supporting Soyeon
@@YCHTTit’s true cuz the audience WERE at fault, like yes these girls sucked but with more training they can be good but it’s the fact that the audience vote for them RIGHT NOW when they’re lacking and only has looks is what made me and soyeon furious, and ur right the audience voting for them is literally setting them up for humiliation and hate💀 if they were to actually made it, they’re gonna struggle and people are gonna judge them and hate on them cuz of their lack of skills too so it’s good that they got out early, hope they can train and debut in the future when they’re better
this is exactly why fan voting shouldn't be a thing. these people vote for you if you're attractive and cute, not for your talents.
true
the fact that the audience didn’t care about those who were extremely talent just because they supposedly “didn’t meet the standards” is absurd. i hate how they only cared about the looks. Soyeon told them off like a BOSS
I really like this clip cause you can tell this one moment in MTG was the reason Fantasy Boys no longer included the audience in voting.
Soyeon gets furious with the troll audience LOL.... The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
pls don't have hates on soyeon. She herself went thru all this as a trainee as well and she got lots of hate at that time due to her looks even though her stage performance was very well done. She jus find it unfair for those potential trainee that didn't get the gate open for them 😭the audience are lowkey going for the looks ngl
Even this title is so misleading... It's more like Soyeon gets furious with the troll audience LOL.... The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
It's a reality TV show. Of course the judges have to be mean. Of course the title is clickbait.
facts right there@@YCHTT
This is exactly why I love Soyeon. The audience should not have voted for them just because they know them, they pity them, or they think it’s “funny”. If those girls were to debut they would be a laughingstock, and they would be humiliated. Soyeon handled that like a boss, and instead of coming for the performers she addressed the situation with the audience and told them to be responsible in pressing the button because it is a privilege and you should pay attention to talent not visuals.
I love how soyeon targeted the audience instead of the performers. She's great calling the biased people.
I just remembered what xiumin said for being an idol even you are great in dancing but if your singing is worst it’s doesn’t look good because for the idol singing is the 1st priority but doesn’t mean you can dance anyhow dance also the important factor for an idol
yeah that's what i had observed before when i was watching pd and other survival shows. you can really tell who's bad at singing when they are performing than those who can't dance
Soyeon is a really talented rapper and producer
I think that Soyeon understands how much hard work goes into being a trainee and doesnt feel that pitying them will get them anywhere. Some people obviously felt bad for them so they clicked the button, but others may really have thought they were just cute. but that means nothing in the long run. Soyeon was right to put the audience in their place, because they also have a hand in making these idol's dreams come true, but they shouldnt delude them. There are so many people that work hard to get where they are, to disregard their hard work because they pity these girls is even more hurtful
She was even more mad though because just before that that same audience failed a group that was insanely talented, singinf, playing instruments, charisma. But they just didnt fit the korean beauty standarts. And then they passed these girls who where just cute. That was when she snapped.
9:17 Yuri's confused face lmao. She like "We didn't debut with ITNW for this."
I totally understand Soyeon, she is strict but it's for their best, if they don't perform well on stage and then debut they will be subject to humiliation and hate by netizens, it was better for them not to debut now and work on improving their skills. Who knows? The girls might improve in the future and prove everyone wrong, nonetheless Soyeon is an excellent judge, we need more judges like her in the other survival shows.
It's more like Soyeon gets furious with the troll audience LOL.... The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
@@YCHTT Yes, I can see she is also mad with the people who voted.
@@chenles_defender No! She is mainly mad at the audience... were you not watching???
@@YCHTTShe was speechless and clearly upset even before the door was opened because of the fact that these girls even dared to come here when obviously knowing what's the matter here. And she cant help but say it when the door actually opened.
@@kun640I'm with her for that, those troll audiences want to see those poor girls humiliated some more by the judges
Nah, she's absolutely right. Especially about the fact that some other people didn't get to even be seen. These girls were off beat and clearly out of breath during most of the performance. They just were not ready, and I hope for the best for them, but to give them a better shot at passing than people who are less aesthetically pleasing is unfair and -as Soyeon was implying- irresponsible.
Soyeon really made a point here ❤. The KPOP industry today is getting more broad and the standards are getting high. They really have to step up because they have to keep up with the industry's standards, they will be the future of this industry. ❤
The way both the girls just respected the judges opinion even tho they don't get any points and they still said thank was very brave. I hope they work hard and achieve their dreams bcuz they both have potential to handle the criticism and hate.
need soyeon as an r u next judge
For real. If she was there, some of the contestants that are eliminated now would've still be in the show 💀
Replace moustache with her
its hard..bcoz soyeon will ruin what Hybe already decided..i believe Hybe already have choosen trainee
@@eyeblessing2166this! I don't watch the show bcs I'm sure this show is just a scenario from HYBE to introduce their new gg (with the-already-chosen-trainees)
Was about to comment the same thing. The judges there seems to already have their favourites
the judge did the right thing. if these two girls were to go on, the backlash they would get would be horrible.
Everybody in the audience that pushed the button should feel ashamed. I got sick watching people laugh while voting, just to for the fun of it.
I am so so so impressed with Soyeon, she remained calm and even tried to appeal to the audience. She is so amazing.
Soyeon is the standard for a judge. She was straightforward, honest, but also was respectful.
Soyeon knows what's talent
Soyeon is 100% fair... Yes she said it was the worst performance, but i imagine that's true, so it's just a fact.. She attacks the audience (and she is right) but what is there to say about the person who decided to put them in this situation ? And poor Soyeon with her talent for producing, when we see her pointing every detail for her members... Her face was just "what the f... Am i doing here ?"
It's more like Soyeon gets furious with the troll audience LOL.... The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
The judgement is really appropriate...
She is such a true speaking woman. Proud of you Soyeon
5:43 this mentor is the best honestly, she is so kind and cute, and actually care abt the girls
Same! I love her
Soyeon is the perfect judge. Calls it how it is. Audience votes shouldn't even be a thing esp if they are going to be bias.
Audience did these two girls dirty. The only reason the passed them was for amusement and ridicule, not talent. Soyeon's reaction towards the audience and the two girls' ability is justified. They needed more training, hopefully they stick with it.
Soyeon spitting facts. Like.... there are sooooo many sob stories in kpop like them who are really talented and probably trained so much harder. It really wasn't fair that the audience voted for them
What is name of song?
Dang! I like Soyeon because she's an amazing rapper and lyricist, but now I love her for having the guts to say that knowing how toxic some people are in SK. Bruh, if anyone attacks her because of what she has said, I will freakin' defend her 100%. Everything she said is a fact. Voters, be responsible!!
There is a hater pretending to be a dragon in one of the top comments reply section. Please, please defend Soyeon from that kid
@@Pfpstealer101 For real? That hater is mad because Soyeon telling facts? That's sicked!
@@crypticlady5047 @MightyDragon
YES. Soyeon definitely did what’s right and said what was needed to say. I ABSOLUTELY stand by her.
I love how they critique but also give them motivation. I don't see a lot of that in these survival shows and always feel bad for the contestants when they want to give up
So proud of soyeon for that. Her face was literally what I was thinking
If only Judges from R U Next were as honest and straight forward as Soyeon.
how did the MC keep his cool while announcing the votes ? i would've laughed immediately if i was him , anyways , these girls aren't trained enough and it shows , the blame is on the audience who gave them a little bit of hope by opening the gate when they know quite well that these two ain't going anywhere but home .
I wouldnt laugh too,theres nothing funny about this situation.its kinda painful tho
@@Kingridnextdoor idk it's hella funny , and I'm sure you're saying this cause you aren't in that situation....what did they even expect ? That they'll get 4 votes ?😂 The mc was saying how both of them got 0 votes if I had to say that out loud i would've laughed hard .
@@PuhLizYou're going too far, you're cruel.
@@unknownchannel1428 I'm not more cruel than those audience who showed the girls a glimpse of hope even after knowing what the outcome would be.
@@unknownchannel1428Their comments will become irrelevant and get lost in the sea of others.
yes it is unfair. How can you judge a a person singing and dancing talent if others did it well while they do comedy, soyeon is right
It's more like Soyeon gets furious with the troll audience LOL.... The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
I love soyeon's honest words. All judges need to learn from her specially all the r u next judges
Soyeon REALLY placed audience in there right place good job!
She was so calm when the performance was like this
Awesome mentorship skills
I completely agree with her she knows what it takes to be in the industry because she's in it and she's succeeding at it. Honestly their dancing wasn't bad and their facial expressions were good to me it seems like if they work on singing they will be in a much better position than currently. Also just have to add that Soyeon looks STUNNING!!
Soyeon is right for calling out the evaluation team. The two girls that went before these two girls were waaaay better, but sadly, the gate didn’t open which I was really shocked at because the last two girls’ voices and dances were extremely good, and they both played the piano really efficiently. It’s a shame the evaluation team picked the two girls in this video for just visuals and not talent like the other two last girls had.
That was like a Kindergarten performance, where parents just cheer up for horrific performances.
It’s like the audience wanted those girls to get harsh comments by judges. They didn’t care about how bad the performance was they just wanted to not take their responsibilities seriously like soyeon said. I’d be mad too.
soyeon is just being honest, if you notice she never laughed she did smile because she's awkwardly thinking how to tell the girls without offending them much - knowing the truth at first is better than never - now its up to both of them if they still want to pursue their dream or not
Its not that Soyeon was frustrated with the girls but she was frustrated with the audience for voting for the girls when they clearly haven't had enough training and still need to practice. If those girls were to debut they would get a big load of hate due to them not being ready.
Soyeon needed to be on R U Rigged. She is extremely talented person as a judge even. She knows how to spot out mistakes without getting someone seriously offended. I loved how she pointed out the audience needed to be responsible with the button not the performers who were their TO BE JUDGED.
soyeon rlly doesnt deserve this hate infact she should act get praised for it many idles hold back she doesnt that makes her the ace and queen of the 4th gen
Soyeon is saying fact! Like bruh! If u want to be idol u need to show the skills ! Mad respect to Soyeon!
we really need soyeon in the kpop industry
She is though
She is though 💀
I'm just thinking about the poor girls, Soyeon is right but I mean the audience was really rude to do that and make the girls look like a joke.
one of them was already crying because she knew they weren't singing that well and yet everyone was giving votes :(
what their vocals ur so goofy. ofc they would laugh
@@JIAFEI_ENTERTAINMENT That's what I'm talking about, they knew that they weren't singing well, and that the audience was making fun of them.
Soyeon might think: " WTF is this. I'm doing my best in a survival show and still get early eliminated. You think you pass perform like this? No girls."😂
It's more like Soyeon gets furious with the troll audience LOL.... The audience were just making it super humiliating for the two trainees & also forced the judges to be honestly brutal about their bad performance.
@@YCHTT Do you have to copy paste this response under almost every comment? We get it.
@@zam9934literally I'm tired of seeing that paragraph lmao
@@kun640 same 😭
@@zam9934 i blocked that user Morpheus x 😩. Saw his comments everywhere.
I agree with soyeon right here, her opinion really saved these girls from further humiliation as well as telling the audience to not be wasting the judges time.
U never mess with a talented self made queen like Soyeon. She knew spot on, where the flaws where and whom to criticise.
she is not really mad at the performers since its clear that their performance messed up, shes more angry at those who voted them as a joke
Love Soyeon for her candidness. And she is right, the 2 girls made the whole performance like a joke, there are more deserving contestants out there.
Pretty privilege in South Korea scares sh t out of me. They'll pass it for cute but untalanted ones who dont even mind to get better but ignore the "ugly" ones who practised hard and have better skills. Let's not lie if Soyeon didny talk about it these 2 would easily pass and stay in the show. And if these 2 were "ugly" no one would say they are cute and giggle about it but backlash them a lot
Are they even pretty tho….
I don’t wanna be mean or anything but they are indeed in the cute side but definitely not pretty, at least not enough when you see the horrible korean standards.
in this show we can see how korean treat someone if she/he pretty. privilege for pretty always number one
Thats why im not batch idol to do plastic surgery because their community already like that..
It’s wild because they aren’t even pretty… like I’m not calling them ugly but they don’t even fit SK’s beauty standards
It's so sad that you can't look unique in SK without being so called "ugly" 😭 looks aside, it scares the sh t out of me that mediocrity from conventionally attractive people is highly praised is SK nowadays and there's somehow more warm welcoming room for pretty people who lack musical talent and less space for the unique ones who can truly shine. Not to say that it's always that way, but it seems to be fairly common.
But Soyeon is a queencard. She doesnt care about what others think about her, she just says what she thinks, wow.
Soyeon does put the visual behind and think about the ACTUAL TALENT❤❤
Soyeon ❤️.
Producers know what the trainees need. I hope these kids improve day by day ❤️
It's very obvious why Soyeon criticized the audience and the girls. They were definitely not confident. Their singing was off key and off beat and their voices sounded very quiet. I don't understand why they opened the gate JUST because they were "cute". It's not that easy to be accepted by the public, especially with international fans because more international fans rely way more on talent than visuals. The girls seriously need to improve if they ever want to be an idol.
I mean it's totally possible to be confident and lack musical talent tbh. These girls just didn't get to that WOW level yet and clearly need more training.
@@mahdireza5695 true but they didn’t look that confident either
someone please put Soyeon in Univverse Ticket because that Vanesya girl killed me
I love Soyeon for being not mad at the girls- who didn’t train long enough- but at the audience. She genuinely looks at the talent and not the KBS or the cute faces. I think Soyeon is one of the best idols.