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Story prediction: They reach the dark continent but now we cut to leorio's medical school exams for no apparent reason.
Leorio is on the boat.
@@Ryuksgelus I was making a joke. This is a video about plot holes & story inconsistencies.
I always think that they won't even gonna be able to explore dark continent. At least not fully. They probably gonna retreating and the arc ends.
The conflict is gonna be about:
Hunter association with Beyond
Kurapika and Ryodan + Hisoka
Illumi trying to manipulate Ai with his needle or something
The new King trying to colonialize Dark Continent and fail
Ging meeting Don, Ging vs Pariston (Psychology, Brainstorming, survival, manipulation, etc)
Kurapika trying to survive and explore Dark Continent with the other zodiac
Kurapika dying, or maybe he found his origins (if NewWorldReview theory is true of course)
Ging probably gonna stay in there even when everyone retreating
I honestly really doubt that the zodiac or Beyond is able to fully explore the dark continent. At least not in this one arc.
We still have Gyro as Gon main villian. I don't think we ever get there tho
I would take a Leorio Medical Exam Arc any day
Talking about which, did he pass it or not?
Like the plot hole of Netero not choosing Tonpa for the Chimera Ant mission or how Killua's bro never played Dragon Quest within the story
haha XD
I think Kite mentioned that it was impossible for an ant to catch the "intestinal flu" in the manga.
But tonpa was the one to defeat meruem and the royal guards, we were just misguided by an explosion that took place at a different location since netero was just pissed komugi beat him at gungi
One could say that Meruem is a rookie at life, being only 40 days old or smth, making him easy prey for TONPA THE ROOKIE CRUSHER
@@roowakeh4302 true Tonpa used a small portion of his power to do the explosion
I never understood why Killua didn’t know about nen. Seems like something his father would want him to know, but I guess it’s possible he wanted killua to hone his skills first before learning nen.
Not really... Not if we think that Killua was always seen as problematic. His personality wasn't "adequate" for the business. So what I thought is that probably they didn't want to tell him about it until he was less rebellious and more into the whole family thing...
@@KatherinaBathory well in reality the reason is the author probably had not thought about. Like he said in the video. It requires a lot of assuming on our part to explain these things away
@@extonjonas6820 the zoldyck family not telling killua about a power system that would enable him to break free of their control in all likelihood really isn't much of an assumption, as a matter of fact I'd say that conclusion is a given.
I also just think togashi hadn't thought of it but that practically writes itself. It doesn't need stating. There's 0 reason Silva would ever decide showing his most rebellious and by far his most talented child is at all a good idea. He's already fairly risk-averse (as is the rest of the indoctrinated family).
@@extonjonas6820 oh yes. But when I'm watching fiction I like to think of it as self contained, without going to the author for explanation so much. And, at least for me, that made sense. Like, I didn't really think much about it, I just understood it that way. Of course if we think about it critically and metatextually is probably that, that the author didn't fully think it through. But I think it's not difficult to make sense of it when we take into account what is in the text.
@@KatherinaBathory yeah, I totally get what you mean
Killua was able to do things like transform his fingers into claws despite not knowing what Nen was, so it's possible he knew about his grandfather's technique but just didn't know it was Nen
then why killua wasnt curious about it?
@@chainjail4834 -Grandpa, how does it work?
-You're too young, go do something else.
I mean, this kind of responses are common even in real life.
@@chainjail4834 if he found out when he was young a simple explanation likely would have sufficed. Brief story time, when my younger cousin was around four someone told him dragons were real and lived in the woods and he just accepted it as fact. As far as he was concerned it made sense, he was young and learning about the world so he found no more need to question the existence of a dragon than he would a cat or dog. Killua also probably knew that being an adult and his grandfather at that, Zeno had immense power.
@@chainjail4834 maybe Killua thought it was something he can learn like Rhythm Echo
This hand transformation , and/or illusion while walking etc were assassin techniques. They have nothing to do with nen or hatsu. Also, the fact that Killua as well as Gon could feel an ominous presence or that they were outmatched by an opponent, means that they were talented enough to sense aura but not comprehend it, or see it. Which explains why Killua knew Zeno's tehcnique
I’ll take pride in the fact that whoever wanted me dead hired the strongest one to assassinate me.
Hehe
I was gonna say like hey I might die but you hired such a tier of an assassin I can’t even be mad
@@luryix9982 It's a zoldyck, unless it's that one annoying pig guy I'm fine with whatever zoldyck comes to kill me, someone legit a immense fortune just to get me killed
@@Drip_Wooper I'm gonna hire milluki just cause you said that
Well he's already in a genjutsu after seeing your profile picture.
The reason not many people recognise the phantom troupe/zoldycks is because they’re all actually related to Tony Hawk :/ only hardcore fans remember what they look like
Everybody knows what tony hawk looks like, he is the tall, strong, native Mexican dude from street fighter
@@Felipera_ what do you mean? isn't he a asian girl?
this reminds me of that Tony Hawk is Perry the platypus meme
"Levi's older brother with an umbrella...?"
*Spider Tatoo shows up**
*gasp* "A phantom troupe member!!!"
The Zoldycks travel by dragon, the Spider aren’t known by their real name outside the underground but have been named the Phantom (meaning figment of imagination) because they aren’t identifiable and so they can’t be connected to events but some people must have descriptions of them that are sort of similar (eyewitnesses aren’t the most reliable). And this was a manga before cellphones and camera phones were as ubiquitous as they are now.
oh shit hold on the message isn’t even related lmao,, the bot’s just copied text from someone else in the comments ahah
The existence of magical beasts in the known world implies the fact that “supernatural” things (for us) is something common for the people in HxH. So we can imply that magic powers is something common and accepted even for regular people.
so nen is like hiding the tree in the forest
This is my thought exactly, I think most people would accept that there is some sort of thing only s few gifted can access and leave it at that...
That would make sense
Lots of these plot holes, are plot holes that can make sense if you think about it, but the explanation wasn't there because the author didn't think about it for a lot, but just because the author doesn't know how to fix the plot hole, doesn't mean the plot hole must remain a plot hole. Since it could make sense, then it is not a plot hole, plot hole, is when something cannot make sense with the plot
@@aaykat6078 I agree, I feel like a lot of the video can be disproved by just a bit of thinking or speculation, just because we don’t know doesn’t mean it’s not possible
Maybe Hisoka's card-throwing wasn't originally intended to be a supernatural ability, but if the Shu fits...
What about Illumi’s shape shifting
A pun?
@@caillasse3147 manipulation. Same as Pouf except Illumi’s was cosmetic like plastic surgery while Pouf’s was genetic manipulation like the Kiriko.
@@caillasse3147 He uses his needles to manipulate the structure of his face (and body), changing his appearance.
His needles can control how his body contorts, so he uses this ability for what I described.
When wing first explains Nen and demonstrates how to turn a piece of paper into a weapon the very first thing I thought was "ohhhhhh so that's how Hisoka did it!"
The thing with the phantom troupe is that if we’re being real, who is actually gonna try and stand against them. Regular people can’t, it’s not like the police are nen users (although they probably could be) and the hunter association wouldn’t have cared to deal with them either
Netero could wipe the floor with them
@@Dzed2022 i agree and honestly knowing netero i’m very confused as to why he didn’t just go after them for fun
@@kyallon1213 especially uvogin and chrollo and maybe hisoka
@@kyallon1213 Am surprised that you're confused. It's very simple, they are beneath him so why should he bother.
@@sidahmedt6422 the hunter's association doesn't even outlaw murder if you have your license, you can hire convicts from death-row as mercenaries, they transcend almost every established rule-set or barricade that an organization or country would have, etc.
All this One Piece youtuber role-playing as a HxH database had to do was google the Hunter's License and the freedoms they're granted. And on top of that, look at how long they let the Chimera Ants run their little course before straight up nuking them.
The societal zeitgeist is certainly one of individualism and strength/surviving and thriving in any which way you can, rather than this weird lawful organized utopia that he believes it to be.
He's made so many fucking videos he has to know at this point--there's no way he's not just producing yellow journalistic click-bait in order to hit the 10 minute mark and remain in TH-cam's Algorithm. So sad to see a man preying on an audience he knows is starving for HxH.
The thing about the Hunter x Hunter world is that it's a magical world filled with unexplicable things, like the areas they pass in the hunter exam. They area filled with dangerous beast and everyone knows that. When meruem leaves the ant colony and the other ants go after him, people find then and just go "hey cool, a new species of magical beasts, let's interview him." . So yeah, killua has shown with his assassin moves that martial arts can produce super human feats, and people seem to know it well, nen being shown around just has the same effect.
The people also have as bad of memories as people in DB
We usually call them 'plot conviences' .
The biggest clue for me that Nen wasn't originally supposed to exist was when the previous Hunter test examiner tries to get his revenge on hisoka he doesn't use any type of nen ability. There is a slight chance that his nen ability just was not designed for combat but given his character design i highly doubt that would have been true.
Tbf, his power might be reinforcing the axes with nen. Probably not, tho.
@@andrellnogueira maybe but I dont think so only cuz I would think that would have made them way harder to catch. It would have been like trying to catch Gotohs coins with ur hands
Just about everything before ins introduction is a big clue
Knowledge of nen (Which all examiners have), Use of nen (which all examiners can), and Being on Hisoka's level are vastly different categories altogether.
*WE the audience* didn't know of nen at that time, but it doesn't mean that he didn't use it, and still got his rear handed to him.
Or then he is an Enhancer
Uhhh...Heaven's Arena does accept Children, assassin's and Hisoka so Heaven's Arena accepting Chrollo Lucifer is not really that far out. Their only rule was people have to register and fight for a specific amount of time.
Also they are infamous in the *CRIMINAL* circle and not recognize by Bisky is simply due to Bisky's own temperament and her background like she was known as a Rare Jem Hunter not a Blacklist Hunter. Their membership also tends to change when one member is killed so its not really surprising
thank you for writing, i wanted to write something similar :)
Killua did Heavans Arena when he was 4 the first time 💀
But she does recognize Binolt the not so famous Blacklist assasin with the scissors
The problem isn't that Heaven's Arena accepted Chrollo, it that the government/law enforcement didn't try to capture him when he was going to be in a public event.
@@threes_leaves not really much of a problem tbh, do you really think the government will actually try and go against the leader of the phantom troupe in a place probably crawling with other high level criminals who love to fight?
I’m currently on the Chimera Ant arc where Killua faces the dart game siblings. The amount of danger Killua faces in this arc so far is crazy like JESUS ALMIGHTY POOR HIM
ikr he was already so damaged and exhausted before facing them
That's why I'm saying if Gon was there instead, he would've died.
@@sebastianquijano4755 He was busy chatting with Meleoron at that time
And you watch this video are you not afraidd of spoilers?
Those series of fights are tough if you're squeamish.
People watching Hisoka use Nen: This is fine
People watching Hisoka do math: MAGIC!
Hi. Wanna talk about Nen ?
Not a plot hole but I miss some elements introduced in the first arc that got dropped immediately, like Gon’s fishing pole. He didn’t use the pole at all after the exam except that one battle in the Heavens arena. AND we didn’t get to see Gon use a skateboard and Killua using Gon’s fishing rod.
Yeah, you know I get why the fishing pole isn't used in the chimera ant arc, but if the thing is still effective against freaking Hisoka than there is no reason why it couldn't be well, actually fatal to others. And fans complaining about it being used again in the last film that was made was like a gift to the fanbase on top of it.
you cant use a fish rod in a gun fight. The enemies from then on were just too strong and life threatening.
@@viennasavage9110Nah, don’t be silly. Nen users have all kinds of impractical weapons. Morel has a giant freaking pipe. The more sensible answer is that Togashi simply didn’t want to write the fishing rod into the story, since while it might be interesting, it would ultimately be a distraction from more important things.
I like how he referred to the phantom troupe as the chrolbros
The most annoying plot hole for me is that the ants in the chimera ant arc are born with clothes...
Why don't more people talk about this?? My bro and I were just ranting about it.
@@nomoremrnicebry it's so annoying and could be easily solved with them finding the clothes on NGL headquarters or somehow making them themselves
It’s probably the clothes of the humans fed to the queen. That could make sense too because they didn’t show every single ant hatching from their eggs
are you saying you WERENT born with clothes on?
@@connor8198 Now that you bring it up I always found it strange that in every photo of my birth I'm in a mini tuxedo... Maybe HxH was right all along
-Regarding Killua: He did say that his family had strangers powers he didn't understand, and wondered with Wing if learning Nen could be the answer to that. Of course the way he easily recognized dragon dive despite not being able to see it before, name and all is something you would have to do a little bit of mental gymnastics, but nothing out of the realm of possibilities, if like I said, he already knew about his family powers, which he said he did, hell, he explained to Morel how Illumi needles worked in the last arc.
-Phantom Troupe: They are called the phantom troupe for a reason. For what it looks like, the first time they were made partially public was in Yorknew (the members in the fliers, although it was never said those were phantom troupe members, that's the conclusion killua arrived), anything else didn't count because the mafia called out everything and didn't make their identities public (more explained in the manga). It's normal that the only people that recognize them through the series, or at least recognize some of the members, are top hunters like Mezaistom that leads the criminal branch, some mafia members, or some people of meteor city.
-The Zoldycks is more of the same, they get recognized by name when they give it out, by looks only people that knows them or have worked with them know about their identities, which are again criminals, mafia, top hunters etc. Nothing about the or the phantom troup is inconsistent.
-This is always funny to me, but no, Nen it was never stated to be something only the Hunter Asociation had a hold of and something of utter secrecy, and the world already is filled with fantasy stuff. They won't just teach it to anyone who applies to the exam because it can be dangerous, but that's it, hell, nen is something you can even get and learn without knowing about it. With that said, the teaching of it does try to be kept secret by the forces that know about it for something as simple as balance, which is a big theme in the succession arc war, it allows them to hold power and avoid chaos.
-Neon thing is true, but you are assumming he is talking about Neon when it doesn't say anywhere that the daughter of the mafia he is talking about is her. I do think too that he is too talking about her, but that is not argument when it's not stated.
-And the Ikalgo thing is true, but the plothole is not as much as him calling Hagya because that could be the name he is more familiar with and he doesn't have to know that he hates being called like that, but the fact that later he didn't know what he was called now. That said, by that point it has 0 effect on the plot knowing it or not.
Regarding your fourth point I wanted to add that using nen has literally nothing to do with the Hunters association, they get their cards before they learn nen and when Gon, Killua, and Kurapika learned about nen it wasn’t like they had to show their cards to them or anything they just learned it from random people, and hell Killua still didn’t even pass the exam at that point so it makes a lot of sense that random people would learn it.
Just facts man
cool comment
komugi never knew what nen was, yet she developed her nen ability in playing gungi unknowingly. so that's already proof yiu can develop it without knowing about it, since it's literally just like conditioning your life aura.
Agreed
It was stated that some people have naturally unlocked their Nen. Musicians, artists, scientific geniuses, and what not.
The Phantom Troupe issue actually makes sense. The only ones that know of them outside of the name are either hunters that focus of combat or crime, or those in underground organizations, as their names and pictures were spread among the various mafia families. The "random dude" that recognizes them is literally a member of one if the mafias onboard.
he I think it's similar to our world. There are many bad people in the world but I can't name any, I mean, I'm sure the names of those bad people are on the 'wanted list' on police website but without going to those websites, most people just don't know them. That's why no one knows the phantom troupe because only on the hunter's website were their names (for a very short period after the maffia wanted to support the spiders because they are related to Meteor city)
the Mafia has full control of the authorities so they also stop pursuing the troupe
@@AgarioSplitrunner Hi. Wanna chat about Nen?
@@nenmaster5218 What about Meruem? If you think meruem is dead, you are right, nooooot!! Meruem must be alive. Because he has 1000iq so he must have created a nen ability to create a clone that died. Post Meruem has Pouf's nen abilities to create clones
Meruem used perfect zetsu. Yes killua stated that Ging has this ability but since meruems soldier had a similar ability, we can assume he knows it exists
@@nenmaster5218 Ging is the top hunter because, imo Ging used a restriction, a nen vow that Ging is not allowed to see Gon for 10 years. In exchange Ging can copy any ability..
You: any?
Me: yes. Think about it, Ging is the Aizen of hunter hunter, Ging knew about everything.. I'd say Ging even foresaw Kite becoming a queen after 10 years.. remember, Ging helped create Kite crazy slot. So Ging knew exactly that Kite needed a reborn ability.
Ging should be millions of times stronger than mmeruem. Remember all the restricted cards in greed island? Then there were normal spells and on top of it admin cards that Razor and Ging can use. Ging was the overseer, the boss, so there should be spells that Ging has more overpowered than admin spells. Like fortunetelling. Remember Eliza, the greed island admin who is doing coding in greed island? Eliza programmed the cards that normal players can't use spells outside the island but Ging has access to Elizas terminal so let's assume Ging used it to remove this rule for Ging, the boss
Now Ging can use almost every nen ability anywhere. And now a secret from me to you, my opinion is that Ging copied hundreds of nen abilities then uploading into greed island cards
He deserves credit for coming up with out of the blue a "magic" system so thoroughly thought out and with a lot of depth in it. Nen and aura are my go to examples of a good system of power with rules and guidelines. Especially when i watch something like RWBY.
... imagine if rwby didn't go downhill
Same bro, RWBY doesn't handle aura well at all. It needs a reboot with new writers.
@@ayyyjirachi6530 i feel like the characters are a bigger problem than aura
@@Some.username.idk.0 The funny thing is that aside from the story, the characters are the worst part about the show, objectively speaking. I love the idea and concept of RWBY; despite this being a fact, it isn't handled well, like at all. There are some cool moments but that's literally it for me. At this point I'm only watching to see how everyone and everything turns out at the end.
@@ayyyjirachi6530 yup
"Nen is a secret,"
"Nen battles are televised in a big sport arena."
Unless you need a Hunter Licence number to get that special kind of pay-per-view pretty sure that shit is on ESPN
I love watching ESPN and seeing a clown beat the shit out of a child
considering how exciting nen battles are youd think that shit woould've been a world phenomena. but barely anyone talks about heaven's arena after.
Hahaha good point.
@@veloce5491 fr, the fact that strong hunters don't host illegal to the death nen tournaments is somewhat unreal, they're human, of course they would like to flex their powers in front of crowds or other strong people
@@veloce5491 This I can understand and it isn't a plot hole (in my opinion). It's entirely possible that the top fighters in Heavens Arena ARE world famous. How do we know they aren't? When Hisoka fights Chrollo in Heavens Arena, its an extremely hyped event with a hugely packed stadium. There are thousands of people watching the fight in person, even regular people know this fight isnt going to be hype as fuck
I did always find it weird that Kalluto knew nen well enough to be inducted into the Phantom Troupe, while his older brother/the family's supposed favorite son found out about it pretty much by accident.
Also, not a plot hole, exactly, but the fact that Killua's entire character motivation shifts to center around a little sister whom he's never mentioned before at the same time that character is properly introduced to the narrative did bother me a bit. It felt like a lot of retroactive character development and given that's what gets him written out of the story for the foreseeable future, left me feeling kind of bitter about the whole thing.
I assume Kalluto was told about Nen because she's not rebellious, whereas Killua would probably be troublesome to deal with if he knew about Nen, but keeping that information from him makes it easier for Illumi to just step in and look at him menacingly to keep him in check.
As for Alluka I haven't gotten to that part yet, but it did seem strange that we didnt get to see her when the gang went to the Zoldyc estate, maybe the retconning or some new events will make more sense to me of this plot line, but I can't comment yet.
@@ginogatash4030 he’s* I’m sorry I just had to
@@qazzzzy you really didn't have to, and it wasn't funny or anything, next time try an actual joke, then I can at least appreciate the attempt.
Illumi's needle suppresed Killua's memories of Alluka. It was one of the reasons why the Zoldycks were cool with Illumi putting a needle on Killua -- they knew he'd never stay away from Alluka otherwise. Killua himself was angry that the needle made him forget his sister when they met.
I'm pretty sure all of that is in the 2011 anime. It's definetly in the manga. It's just easy to miss because a lot happen in the Zoldyck state in like a single episode.
One biggest flaw I think Killua has as a character is that he never had a goal of his own. (It was even joked about in a HxH movie) Him traveling with Gon was his escapism from the family and I don't think I'd count the "experiencing the outside world" as a goal since his assassin job allowed him to be away from home before but supervised I think. And yeah, him looking after Alluka does write him outside of the story and there's still no reason for Killua to have ties with or do anything hunter related (outside bits of slices where he may need some money) or assassin related unless Togashi can find a reason to put him back in the story and give him an actual goal. It looks like it will have something to do with Nanika originating from the dark continent (still feel like it's gonna center around Alluka's needs rather than for himself). Don't know what he'll do with Gon now since he already found his father and the story seems to shift on dark continent related stuff, I get the feeling Ging will become the protagonist for a long amount of time given his reasons ties more with where the story is heading, it will make sense.
On the killua not knowing nen pothole, why does his little brother Kalluto, knew nen while he was just 10. Killua was 12 at that time and still didn't knew nen. Just a plot hole I guess.
The first time Killua went to HA it was because his family dropped him off there and told him to reach the 200th floor. I wonder if they intended for him to learn about Nen by running into the Nen users there.
I think it is more related to Killua's mindset on freedom . Killua was supposed to be the heir but he doesn't like it and showed it to the family without hiding his discontent to the family.
They might have waited till Killua started to prioritise family business rather than being free and live life however he wants.
@@nofumar good explanation but wouldn't that have killed killua ? Supposedly no one such as mr. Wing was there to teach nen to him.
@@PrasoonDwivedi08 Yeah there's no way they intended that. Illumi's needle would've made him run away as soon as he stepped in the ring
@@PrasoonDwivedi08 it won’t necessarily kill him, he’s much stronger than the weaklings there. It’s implied by his lack of a reaction upon finding out that Silva may have been fine with Killua removing the needle as it means he’s developed his resolve. Only by refusing to run away can you discover and remove the needle (as prolonged resistance causes headaches- but we’ll have to see if this is ever confirmed by the manga).
its very likely killua witnessed it before, but he just never knew it was nen. just like how both him and gon could sense how sinister or powerful the enemy is before they entered heavens arena, or being able to conceal their presence despite not knowing that what they were doing was manipulating their aura. killua probably saw it before, thought it was so cool and asked his grandpa about it. grandpa was probably pulled a "your still a kid you wont undertand" and never touched on it again. Silva probably wanted him to learn nen when he threw him into heaven's arena at 6. when he reached the 200th floor he was probably supposed to go against someone who uses it at learn it. but killua gave up and went home. so theres that
One part of the series with no inconsistencies is that bungee gum has the properties of both rubber and gum.
I think that is something inherent to the shonen format. Carrying an improvised plot through weekly publications and make it work. Togashi does it surprisingly well, and I have a hunch he uses those hiatuses to his advantage, to ensure quality. There is no way one can write a proper story in typical shonen ridiculously tight weekly schedules.
The series clearly took on a different turn, for the better, when nen was introduced, and that created some plot issues, especially around Killua. But one thing is for sure. Togashi explicitly shows in the manga that some people use nen (e.g. artists) even without knowing it. So, the easiest explanation is that Gon, Killua and Kurapika were all using nen (part of it, at least) during the hunter exam, even without knowing.
Gon learned zetsu by himself, Killua learned many "techniques" from his family, which all can imply the use of nen to some extent, such as the after image thing that Netero sees Killua using. And Kurapika's red eyes were a special nen ability for the Kurta clan (Uvogin says they were strong). We could even go as further as saying that Illumi's needle implanted in Killua's head gave him some special nen skills, under control of the family. So, that could explain why he had seen dragon dive before, even without knowing how to use Gyo. That could be a "borrowed ability" granted by Illumi's nen implanted in Killua through the needle.
I declare myself NEN EXPERT OF LEGENDS!
You, peasant, may ask me ANY Question
I've read a lot of shonen which didn't have these inconsistencies in worldbuilding. However fun it is that Togashi improvises the hell out of writing, it's not true that all shonen does this at all. I'd say it's more that you're only thinking of works which were probably inspired a lot by it(for example I definitely think jujutsu kaisen was heavily influenced).
Not all shonen is weekly anyway. But a weekly one I'd give as an example would be world trigger, that's never had these sorts of worldbuilding plot holes.
That's absolutely false. Eiichiro Oda does a TERRIFIC job with One Piece. Way more plot and worldbuilding and far less plotholes than HunterxHunter.
I was thinking because killua already knew about illumi’s needle men and could use nen himself without knowing it (transmuting his body), he may have ‘seen’ dragon dive in some capacity (less aura, only the literal explosions), and realized “This is dragon dive” aloud upon seeing Zeno’s aura, even though Killua hadn’t been formally taught nen by the zoldyks they regularly exposed him to it and trained him
No, otherwise he wouldn't have needed his nen pores opened.
Furthermore, he'd have to train with his nen to transmute his body.
So he could not have known about nen.
@@maxdrags3115 its not about seeing nen but about seeing the effects caused by nen and then putting 2 and 2 together
I'd like to add that Killua was aloud to go inside the NGL even though he still had Illumi's needle at the time.
(You can say that the needle Illumi could be made out of a material that's not metal, but when we see the needle it has a clear gold color stating that it's probably metallic, thus not being able to be prohibited in the NGL)
that is true but its easily explainable by saying the material doesnt matter its the nen on it that is important
@@rksworld4405 I'm pretty sure he's talking about NGL having metal detectors, so the material does matter
The fact barely anyone in the series knows the geography of the Hunter X Hunter world lol
Seems very realistic to me.
@@Das_Ungeheuer What do you mean?
I mean, even with today's technology and knowledge, there are not many people in our world who know a decent amount of geography, not even their own country's.
@@Das_Ungeheuer Ok I guess I understand where you're coming from there but I feel like so many more people would be atleast washing up on the shores of the Dark Continent. And like being surrounded with bodies of water it would lead to curiosity and exploration to even settle like the Kakin Empire does in the series. I don't know man just feel like a lot more people should know about it especially considering there's only like 800 hunters in the organization and probably like 20 know
I mean we have a map of the world
Nen is implied in the first arc, Netero's steel leg, Hisoka's card cutting through limbs, and off course Illumi scaring the shit out of Killua. It is not mentioned because we as a reader we're not supposed to understand that, we discover Nen at the same time as Gon and Killua.
It's very obvious nen wasn't a thing at the start and suddenly got a$$pulled out of nowhere.
@@bayraktarx1386 well yes but I like to think Togashi had an idea that he needed and wanted a power system, he just didn’t want to immediately be restricted by the power system and used the early arcs to help him build a much more intricate system.
And also hisoka bloodlust in the woods that night when gon was hunting him
You forgot a really big plot hole. In the YNC arc, when the troupe got suspicious of Hisoka, they could have just used Paku to scan his memories if he was ''unable'' to speak?
That’s A good one never thought about it but another one is that pitou could have messed with palm head to get answers why she was their there just like she did to the arrow nen user.
i was thinking that throughout that WHOLE scene but I'm kinda happy that didn't happen
That's because the troupe fully trusts Chrollo judgment, when he "figured it out" Hisoka they just accepted it because the explanation made sense but it was a risky move as Hisoka stated it worked because he knew Chrollo was that smart to "fill in the pieces" basically Hisoka outsmarted Chrollo in that situation. And if i remembered correctly Paku was the one that asked to read Hisoka's fortune but before Hisoka gave the fortune to her, he said "i wouldn't recommend it will give you a shock". That's was a actually a great move by Hisoka because it threw her off for a moment that gave time for him to use texture surprise on the paper and change a verse. Hisoka is damn smart and he pays attention to subtle changes in someone's psychological condition just like how he did it while fighthing Kastro. Therefore i don't think that's a plothole just like real life even if you're damn smart given some situations you sometimes don't think straight or you're too focused on something else.
I agree Paku ability could be used there but Hisoka could as well said something that if the spiders knew he would die to the chain ability therefore he would fight them if they tried to use Paku ability on him
No. They guessed that if he can't say anything about Kurapika it would be because he enforced a rule like "you can't reveal anything about me" or something along those lines.
If Pakunoda where to scan Hisoka, it would totally count as giving them information.
Man when someone said "Nen is inspired by stands" guess they weren't joking.
Stands and nen: We have rules, most people dont have nen/stands.. Until they do
What about Fan-made Hatsu though?
Every commentsection i've ever seen covering
this was 100% Hype.
And i mean 100%.
It always brings the People in a good mood.
That's litterally not true everyone has nen
@@Nerevarine420 yup essentially one's spiritual energy that you're able to utilize through training it's properties like Zushi or the more frowned upon method of forcefully opening another's nen nodes with your own nen. Some can even subconsciously tap into it like Komugi but she's a prodigy in what in the extent of which she uses it for and athletes also can subconsciously use it to excel in their respective sport as stated in the anime.
@@Nerevarine420 I think he/she meant most people don’t use nen
Why people cant see the obvious?
Nen is a combination of Stands and Force from star wars. Its just that its more complex.
TL:DW sometimes togashi forgets stuffs. Especially with all the hiatus
He remembers dragon quest stuff more than his manga.
What ''TL:DW'' mean?
"That Hisoka guy seemed to have a weird aura about him."
-A professional hunter chosen to be part of the exam
Bruh they be sending attendants to death to get some eggs and then say some shit like “this is worth dying for” ☠️ the people of the world of hxh has serious cognitive issues
Killua has probably seen the destruction of Dragon Drive as it is being used without being able to see the technique itself.
Or it is a conjured ability, meaning regular people can see it too.
Killua seeing dragon dive without the need for gyo just prove how visible the technique was. We also need to take Zeno's nature to account, he might view killua as his favorite grandson thus revealed this technique to him. This further emphasizes when he hand out his business card casually to the fellow assasins during the phantom troupe hunt. He had no problem to advertise his technique even it will cost him being stole by chrollo lucifer as he was confident enough with the flexiblity of his dragon dive technique. Also seeing him using that dragon dive as a some sort of transportation led me to believe that zeno had revealed this technique while he was travelling with his grandson killua for the assasination training.
@@maxdrags3115 no its emission and transmutation
1) it wouldn't surprise me at all that back when killua was training he would have tagged along in an assassination with zeno and was Shown the effects of dragon dive or at least told about it from a family member and explained as if it was an assassination technique.
2) The troupe are INFAMOUS throughout the world in name only and were never seen prior to the YN arc , and even after being seen by the mafia it was never shared on the internet / media , or at least it was never shown . and even when the bounty hunt was set up by the mafia it was never explicitely stated who the targets were , just that they attacked the auction. Hence why gon and company never knew the troupe until killua deduced it from the situation. And it also makes sense to me that info about the troupe would circle in mafia circles after these big incidents that reshaped the mafia structure (as the kakin mafia members said) , including how they look. And considering that the ten DONS are from all corners of the world it wouldn't surprise that info about how they look was published with all mafia families who took part in the auction (meaning all mafia in the world ) in order to deal with them ASAP before the order came to stop the hunt due to them being from meteor city.
So the general population never got to know who they were but the mafia circle did hence why no normal citizen recognised chrollo in heaven's arena and why a random kakin mafia member was able to recognise them. That's at least how i see it.
3)i do agree that nen wasn't intended from chapter 1 (killua's assassination abilities) .
about nen a lot of ordinary people KNOW OF nen but have no way to learn nen because it is either gated by the hunter association (which is by far the biggest group of nen users ) who would never teach it to a random person and random non hunter nen users who have 0 incentive to teach others nen because it only increases the competition and the number of people that could be trouble for you as a nen user , or there is also the occasional genius who just stumbles onto nen by themselves.it is not really strange that east gorteau had 1 nen user body guard because diego could have just hired the strongest person he could find (aka a nen user) just like how the princes are hiring now inthe current arc . and same for the shadow beasts.
4)This one actually seems like he forgot that the eyes were fake (considering the "daughter of the mafia" he was referring to was neon which is very likely). Or just that the father got his hands on some scarlet eyes in an attempt to please his daughter before he fully realised that her powers were gone .
5) there is a way how ikalgo couldn't have heard about it . Leol changed his name somewhere after he left the nest to build his own kingdom and before he met with cheetu , in that time whenever we saw him ikalgo was never with them or in contact with them until he was contacted by flutter later on to snipe killua , and leol's new name was never mentioned in that conversation either. And after that he just joined the group and would have no way to know the name. And with ikalgo being already set up there prior to killua coming it's easy to assume that he was around that area for a long time before killua came , and considering they were so far away from each other and couldn't telepathicly communicate it would make sense (the telepathy seems to have a range because many situations could have been resolved by telepathy but were never used so it has to have a limit).
But i still personally think togashi just forgot this detail tbh.
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To address some of the plot holes:
1.: The phantom troupe being still able to walk around in public does make sense to some degree, first of all their name and faces were spread mostly amongst the mafia (and technically the members of the conditional auction but they never knew them as "the phantom troupe"), and their association to the commited crimes in yorknew also was only known to the mafia. The same mafia also presumed them dead after Kortopis ability was used, so it makes sense that the names and faces wouldnt have been spread very far (especially after their association with meteor city became known, so Chrollo participating in Heaven's arena while still being undercover does make sense. The Hei-Li goon instantly recognizing them after seeing them also makes sense to some degree as he is, again, a member of the mafia and it does seem plausible that their information was spread among the mafia organizations while not known by the general public.
2.: Killuah did not know nen prior to learning it from wing, but this does not mean that he wouldn't have heard stories of the abilities of his family ("grandpa once killed a target by raining golden dragons from the sky!"), without knowing how exactly they were performed or that they were in fact nen techniques. There are A LOT of magical beings and abilities in Hunter X Hunter (starting with the shapeshifting navigators/magical beasts) and it can be assumed that the general populace knows that things like these exist. This ties directly into
point 3.: the fact that nen isn't generally known. Again it seems possible that alot of people have seen nen in it's use in some way (for instance at Heaven's arena) without knowing exactly what kind of "magic" was at work here. It's one thing to know that magic exists in some fashion and another to know the system behind it and that many different types of "magic" are really just applications of one thing.
4.: The Hunter association might prevent Nen becoming known to the general public by banning publy discourse about it or trying to control available information on it as much as they can. As such it makes sense that it's not something that everybody knows, but is known by some people, for instance bodyguards, criminals, underground fighters, mafia members usw., any place where secret transfer of this kind of information among members is possible. That being said, it makes no sense whatsoever that Tsierridnich didn't know about it as a mafia member himself especially since members of his mafia family know about it. The only possible explanation here is that this information was somehow intentionally kept from him, but yes this seems like a glaring plot hole.
The Nen one you can explain by saying people know of super powers but think they are just that, super powers. What really is Nen is a "secret".
I have a fun idea. Remember the hunter exam?
How about if you try doing a video about the contestants or the examiners.
Maybe try to find out their nen affinities, speculating their hatsus, etc.
I think everyone want videos about Satotz, Menchi, that one guy with the monkey, and specially rookie crusher Tonpa
10:17) I have a better explanation for Ikalgo’s name mixup. He was starting to regain his human memories and identity and began to recognise Leole by his human origin rather than his ant identity
i think the three guys from the heavens arena, as far as i remember, was iniatated with nen when they entered the higher floors which was the explanation as to why they can't walk or lost their limbs
that's what i remember though, not sure
True
Plot holes aside, nen is one of the greatest powers ever written. It's a secret but its also common knowledge depending who you ask.
My X-Mas Gift for ya is to ask you if you have
ANY Questions about Nen,
cause i probably can and will answer them.
Bro finally someone pointed out Killua knowing about Zeno's technique. I comment about this every chance I get because it didnt make sense
He also seemed to know about Illumi's dolls, but that can be overlooked a little easier.
Zeno’s dragon dive is probably visible for coordinating on missions with novice Zoldyck members, you just have to give your aura the property of light. Thus Killua recognizes it.
We could also appeal a little to Illumi's needle to further a little on both this cases.
@@christopherrivera1673 okay but all aura reflects light thats why you can see it uaing gyo
How can one make such sumptuous content for a series that’s been on pause for just about 3 years? Just Astonishing👏🏾
Yeah, how do you keep it so fresh?
On Greed Island:
Why did Gon fought Genthru and not Bisky? It would have made more sense for Gon to fight one of the side goons just like Killua did.
Also, why didn't Hisoka fought Razor, considering he was so strong? He would have wanted to fight him to the death.
For the first question: Genthru fell for the trap exactly because he knew he was way above Gon's level, while he might have taken Bisky more seriously, making it harder to fool him. (Yes, Gon got really messed up, but that's mostly because he insisted on the fight before following the plan.) Or maybe Bisky could have defeated him super easily, which is why she decided it would be a good experience for Gon.
you know gon, he wanted to beat the shit out of him after they talk after the dodgeball match. it wasn't a logical decision.remember gon could have lost definitively his arms just to prove a point when he had a strategy to beat genthru
hisoka hang out with a bunch of strong people, he doesnt nevcesarrily want to fight every strong guy he comes across
Togashi is a really smart man, I really hope he recovers quick to finish this masterpiece!
Keep up the good videos! 🔥
It’s fun how almost all of your videos are up to date.
As for killua, wouldn't the needle placed on his head imbue him with nen so he could quite possibly see nen abilities unless they are accompanied by En because he doesn't know Gyo
If that were true he should have been able to see Zushis Ren.
You only use Gyo to see En'ed Nen. If he was able to see aura and Hatsu because of the needle he would have seen a ton nen use already and wouldn't have found about it for first time along with Gon. If we asume that this hatsu is visible to the non-nen user eye Killua would have already know Nen existed, and if it was not visible he shouldn't know the ability at all. Until that point we were told Killua's only exposure to Nen was the technique to modify his hand and nails and he assumed it wasn't magic, and the shadow step was just a dance move that doesn't require any Nen, just a specific walking rhythm. The whole thing about killua and Nen is a plothole, and knowing about Dragon Dive just made it even more evident.
The needle wouldn’t necessarily “imbue” Killua with nen. It was so minimal and only targeting his decision making and it controlled his fear. It probably wasn’t enough nen to awaken him early on.
If that were true, that would mean anyone who is manipulated by nen (who lives anyway) would become a nin user which i dont believe is the case
@@shmevanriceballz2857 yeah im thinking he was imbued with very minimal amounts of nen so he would have very minimal knowledge of some nen techniques. But i dont think it works like that. It's most likely a plot hole but i was trying my best to make sense of things with the knowledge we know
Not necessarily a plot hole but does everyone remember during the Heavens arena arc when the Gon vs Hisoka match was going on, the lady announcer was joined by a random glowing person who was super intrigued by the fight. There was never really any expansion on that guy lol
I am actually pretty sure Nen was planned from the very start, seeing the presence of Ilumi and Hisoka, and many of their moments. It is just how Togashi writes. He likes to add a lot of elements to the story from the very start. But I have no doubt Nen was planned from the very start. Especially after coming from YuYu Hakusho, a series based around supernatural powers that are supposed to be secret also.
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Here's why he knows what dragon dive is. It's because he's seen it. Nen abilities can be visible to regular people or people that aren't using nen. If you couldn't make them visible then texture surprise wouldn't work or be as effective. It may be a condition for the ability as well to boost it's power
Also, we don't even know if it's a nen ability. He has assassin techniques that are not associated officially with nen
Killua not knowing nen is the same as Sanji not knowing what devil fruits were early on in One Piece, but later we are shown that he did know about them and even had a specific one he wanted.
It's been a really long time since I watched the show, but thinking back what really confuses and feels contrived is the origin of Chimera Ants, like after all the millions of years that have been passed, now is suddenly the time for a new species to evolve? What were they doing for so many centuries to not go through any sort of evolution?
They originated from the Dark Continent and their evolution was spurred by the consumption of humans, especially ones with Nen
@@sethmiller4107 Thanks
Loved the video! great work. I feel dumb for not noticing these earlier now
When I first watched, it did make me wonder how Killua knew about Dragon Dive- but I reasoned it out this way- Killua probably saw Zeno use this technique without knowing how it works- non-nen users can see objects created by nen if In isn’t being used, so I assumed that he could see the arrows, but maybe just assumed it was some kind of magic, or a martial arts skill he would learn/understand as he got older. Killua must have pieced it together before this attack happened (that most or all of the techniques he watched his older family members use when he was a child had to be nen) so it wasn’t a surprise and didn’t show him reasoning it out in this moment.
Biggest plot hole is how Hisoka's bungee gum can have the proprieties of rubber AND gum
The OP extinction level man eaters has not stopped feeling random AF. The chimera ants were absolutely terrifying yet Netero could only find a guy who was really good at blowing smoke and another who voided his bowels on a stealth mission.
The palace invasion was a suicide mission. There might be Hunters on Netero's level who can take on the Royal Guards by themselves, but they're few and far between and might still end up dying in close fights or due to unexpected circumstances, so it's better to spare them and have them act as pillars of the Association if Netero can finish the job by himself (especially since he knew he was 100% going to die). The other Hunters were only there to distract the Royal Guards long enough for the Rose to blow up the King, which would also poison the Royal Guards once they reached the explosion site.
@@magnum155 well said its like these people didnt even comprehend what they watched
@@magnum155 Pretty sure the Rose was 100% a last resort considering how hard Netero fought to win without it. And also are you trying to tell me that despite all that painful narration on inner thoughts and details... they failed to mention the 300 IQ strat of anticipating the Royal Guards jumping into a cancer pit.
If Netero knew he was going to die then why was everyone so upset when they failed to beat Youpi? An even better question why bother going at all instead of just nuking the palace or just nuking the nest in the first place? You gotta admit that's some utter nonsense.
From a viewers perspective there's no reasonable way to anticipate that villains would effectively start getting nuked. If nuking is an option in this world why bother after a top hunter nearly dies from the stress of being near these guys?
@@benakinnusi2518 Poorly said actually. I know ppl defend this bloated arc to the death but if your extinction level antagonist are so strong you had to kill them with an essential mini nuke and give them super cancer it's perfectly reasonable to see major flaws in the writing. Why have a power system if it's not relevant to even beating the threat? Other than pure speculation there was no reason for a Netero suicide bomb.
@@goddessrick8734 Yes, the Rose was a last resort. It would be better to avoid suicide-bombing tactics or nuke a place filled with people, of course, but if you're forced to choose one, the former is the least terrible option. Plus, Netero's dream for decades was finding someone he could fight against using all his power, so he wouldn't let this chance go despite his low odds of winning. This plan allowed Netero to fight, minimized collateral damage, and ensured the mission would succeed regardless of Netero's victory or defeat. A "win-win" of sorts.
As for why the rest of the team wasn't told about the Rose, we can only guess. Maybe it's exactly because this forced them to fight their hardest.
Please make a part 2 of this!!! This was interesting to watch and consider the many plot holes of the series.
I suspect what occurred with Killua and Dragon Dive, was that Illumi's needle had suppressed anything related to Alluka, which may have included other feats of Nen.
Whilst it does sound like Kurapika is referring to Neon when he says mafia daughter it's technically not a confirmation. Hisoka said to Kurapika during the Yorknew City arc that whenever Chrollo gets something that he wants he'll admire it for a while then sell it off which is what happened the first time he acquired the eyes after the Phantom Troupe massacred the Kurta clan. It is most likely that Togashi forgot but this can be easily explained through saying that the eyes were just sold. I'm still rewatching the show so not sure if this would work but Kurapika might not know that the eyes were copies (might be wrong and he did know this but it could also be explained using this point if he didn't) in Kurapikas inner monologue he is incorrect but he doesn't know that therefore him saying the only remaining eyes are with Tsereidneich is still correct from his POV.
thats impossible since Kurtopi got killed by Hisoka which should result in a disappearance of all the copies that Kurtopi made, so in chapter 344 which are after those events, the eyes that were copies (if they were still in Kurapikas posession) should have disappeared and he should have notice that they were fake.
None the less im not certain i would call it a plothole just yet, since i have to re read the manga again to gain further more information about the whole tserridnich, kurapika situation.
@@DrawingwithMangaSoul After just reaching the end of the arc, Melody notes that the eyes were stolen after Squala was killed. So the plothole is either that Togashi forgot the eyes were stolen or he was just not referencing Neon in the statement.
Perhaps Ikalgo stopped referring to Leol as Leol as soon as he switched sides?
It seems people call him that out of respect or fear, and Ikalgo could've known and interacted with him before this change as such defaulted to referring to his original name.
Then again, he shouldn't have been so ignorant while undercover, but maybe T̶o̶g̶a̶s̶h̶i̶ Ikalgo just forgot.
Pity cause that would have worked well and kept the same tension if Ikalgo just slipped up, and then by the time lobster guy points out the issue, Ikalgo's cover is already blown. Instead he just managed to not only forget to use the new name, but that the guy even changed names to begin with.
No, Ikalgo never learned Leol's name. After being "killed" as Flutter, he even says that disguising himself as someone else would be too risky because he doesn't know what Hagya's new name is, which would make others suspicious.
For Nen being unknown, I can think of a few explanations of why it is known or unknown:
1. In this world, it is understood that many have some kind of magic or have paranormal abilities. People know about abilities, but not how they work. A highly talented athlete uses nen to augment their abilities, but without formal knowledge of how it works.
2. Formal Nen training is controlled by the Hunter Association. They've developed the principles of Nen to help the practice of Nen.
3. Other people can independently develop Nen through sheer dedication to an activity. They will instinctively use Nen, but might not be capable of using Gyo to see Nen. We can argue that kid Gon is so strong because he instinctively uses Nen to heighten his sense of smell and strength. An adult version of Gon who never became a hunter would have developed his nen to a high level, but might not be able to use formal techniques like Gyo or Ren.
So, if we see people using Nen, they could either be hunters (but Togashi does not mention it) or have discovered Nen independently and might even have developed it to a semi-formal or formal level (ie: probably the Shadow Beasts).
Think of Nen like real-life martial arts. Some people control a practice (say, Karate associations), but independent styles can be developed and some people might just be great fighters without formal training. Not many people have the determination, time and money to develop their martial arts skills to become a great combatant, so similarly, very few people in the HxH world develop Nen
This would be understandable but the Heaven's arena is rather popular
I doubt the people at the top would be treated any less than celebrities
Additionally, considering how common nen users and how relaxed the association is in suppressing nen related activities, there's a vast amount of information that should be open to the public
Obviously not all, but it should be something akin to the Bermuda triangle
Something everyone knows about and at least accepts to some extent even if they didn't figure all of it out yet
To give potential explanations to the “plot holes”:
Killua likely had Dragon Dive explained to him but had no idea what NEn was and no one explained Nen to him
As for Heavens Arena: the main reason why Nen “works” unlike other superpowers is because its naturally invisible to non nen users. And supernatural stuff has been widely acccepted in the HXH world (magical beasts exists). They even consider all of Hisoka’s abilities magic tricks
The general public dont know about nen but know people with special powers exist in the world.
And as shown with Killua, you can have super strength or certain obvious abilities that use know Nen or nor require Nen to achieve. (In fact, the claw technique was stated to be done by physical muscle manipulation like how Killua can dislocate his joints and reverse it in seconds. Its how he escaped MAchi;s thread when his hands were tied up)
Hence why Nen is accepted and not seen as a big deal in Heaven’s Arena.
Killua not knowing Nen can make sense with these explanations:
Unlike Kalluto, Killua is a rebel. The last thing the family would want is a rebel learning NEn too early in his life and having the power to leave his family business
Nen is about personality and the family likely wanted Killua to become more attuned to his assassin mentality first
His father sent Killua to Heaven’s Arena at 6 years old, with the goal of reaching the 200 floor, meaning he expected Killua to be initiated but survive or at least, learn about the existence of NEn. But Killua himself admits he literally left and went back home after finally reaching the 200th floor. So he would not find out about Nen
As for CAnary or a butler not telling him, the family likely ordered them to not tell Killua about nen
The family wanted to mold Killua to the next heir. Again, dangerous to teach him about Nen when he is a rebel and wants to run away.
Yeah I agree with you. Chrollo not being chased by authorities and Kurapika's eyes seems the only plotholes I consider weird enough to not be easily explained.
1. It's possible Killua heard stories of Dragon Dive, and assumed it fit into the same camp of Assassin techniques, such as when he can make his claw-hand, snake mode, and creates after images.
2. It's possible that the Troupe have a status of infamy among select criminal organisations, and not the general world, but this is a stretch.
3. You could argue that the Hunter Association don't have a monopoly over nen, but rather have the societal dominance of sharing nen. Character like Rabbot learned nen without having any knowledge of it, same with characters like Komugi. For the plot hole about how its supposedly secret, its possible the general population view events such as Heaven's Arena as magical fighting, and isn't magic, but rather a WWE-style fake wresting where the general assume its just fake.
4. Biggest one with no real explanation. It's possible that Kurapika associated the fake eyes that Neon had with the real eyes and considers the real eyes to be associated with Neon. He also probably just stole the other eyes, or maybe created a new source of income for the Lestrade family.
5. Ikalgo probably just forgot the name change, and maybe Leol had his old name for a longer duration that Ikalgo was exposed to, and changed to Leol and then had minimal interaction with Ikalgo.
There's also a plot hole where Satotz said to Gon during Hunter Exam Arc, that he wanted to meet Ging personally. It is clear that we see both Satotz and Ging were in the audience during the 13th Chairman Election Arc. The first time I watch it, I was hoping that Satotz is gonna have a conversation with Ging there plus with the presence of Gon. If their meeting was off-screen, then that would be disappointment and doesn't make any sense, since Satotz verbally stated that his primary goal is to meet Ging personally and have a decent conversation.
And Satotz said it right in the face of the protagonist, Gon Freeccs.
not a plot hole just something you’re not satisfied with there’s a difference
@@charlesguillergan8759 this is the most flawed and illogical response. Its like you're saying Liam was not satisfied by how Killua recognizes DD when he learnt nen during HA arc
@@dylankudaibergenov8279 But nobody cares about Satotsu.
@@caillasse3147 oh look! another one 😹
@@dylankudaibergenov8279 his entire “plot hole” is based off the fact that he didn’t like that satotz didn’t have an on screen meeting with ging while gon is there you’re being an idiot
I listen to all of your HunterxHunter content while driving or on patrol at work sorry for not commenting as much as I should
Another explanation for Killua being familiar with dragon dive is that Zeno Zoldyck (grandfather) is using transformation based nen and as we all know, transformation nen transforms pure aura into other properties (gum, energy, fire, etc.). So when nen is transformed, it is then visible or within the realm of the physical sensations. So then when Dragon dive is performed, it would be possible to be seen with the naked eye. Hence Killua would be able to observe dragon dive without the use of nen.
You should do a quiz also and if the viewer answers incorrectly they ''have'' to sub thing
People love quizes
i dont believe the dragon dive attack is a plot hole....it causes mass damage. that you can easily see. I am sure Killua has seen the after effects of this damage and then now that he can see it puts two and two together.
doesnt grandpa zoldyck say the name of the attack before doing it like most anime chars. if so, killua in the area when he does it. doesnt see the energy. but seeing all the holes and craters left afterwards. Then learns nen. Sees the attack now and the craters and holes. again just puts two and two together. It doesn't seem like that big of a stretch
Wouldn't that be a hasty conclusion? Dropping Nen projectiles isn't a super unique technique, so if you don't know what Dragon Dive actually looks like, you wouldn't immediately think Zeno was the one responsible. Someone like Razor could probably do something similar (it wouldn't make much sense for him to be there, of course, I'm just saying there are many possibilities other than Zeno, and it's not like Killua to rush to conclusions).
@@magnum155 what are you talking about? What if zeno was the only one there who showed killua his power, that would obviously mean zeno was the one who did that attack, since he beat the other guys. It's not like killua to rush conclusions, but he instantly make conclusions on the obvious 100% things
@@aaykat6078 I don't understand what you mean by "since he beat the other guys." What other guys?
@@magnum155 if Zeno used it why would killua assume it was someone else ability ?
@@Nerevarine420 Because it isn't a particularly unique technique if you only see the aftermath. Anyone with decent mastery of Emission can achieve similar results. It's like seeing someone crush a wall with Nen and automatically assuming it's Wing just because you saw him do it once... The problem is that pretty much any Nen user can crush a simple wall with Nen, so this doesn't prove anything about the user's identity.
Of course, it's a different story if you actually saw Dragon Dive and/or could recognize Zeno's aura... neither of which Killua should've been able to do because he only learned Nen after leaving the Zoldyck estate.
The very first appearance of Nen is when Illumi 'hypnotizes' Killua in the final round of the exam. Before that, you can probably attribute every other thing (like Hisoka's cards or Netero's body toughness) to a very well-honed skill.
Here's one I personally spotted when watching the show: Kite enters the NGL through the official method where they check and x-ray everyone for metals, plastics and tech which are prohibited... Then Kite oops remembers he had Ging's hunter license on him but forgot to give it back when he found Ging, and hands it to Gon for him to return it when he catches up with him... You know, the high tech, plastic, in a plastic case with a metal chain license.
The license would have been spotted on the entry scan, and if we assume Kite smuggled it in any way he wouldn't have just suddendly remembered about having it and how he got it past the scan would have been addressed.
To be fair, that’s just another inconsistency with the 2011 adaptation. In the manga, kite gave gon his dads license as soon as they met up but since kite was never introduced in the beginning like he did in the manga, they had to improv
@@mariojb__ Ah, didn't know that bit, that one is fault of the anime team. I only started reading the manga after the 2011 anime stopped.
The whole "lost" Zoldyck brother thing was an issue. What I still hate narratively is how Killua dominated the last Hunter Exam that was held under Netero.
why ? he was just like hisoka. except illumi no one could stand a chance in a fight if he was serious.
@@theflashgordon193 except that Hisoka didn't just straight up win as the only individual in round 1 of the exam. Hisoka even needed 2 attempts.
@@Jolfgard killua profit from the fact round 1 was a battle royal. hisoka could have done the same in the same context (knowing hisoka he would have let the people he find worthy though). killua was more than qualified to pass the exam (he should have succeed the first time tbh).
@@Jolfgard the only reason hisoka failed the first exam was because he killed an examiner. Not because he wasn't skilled or powerful enough
Just re-watched the series killua is probably the best developed character
No meruem
@@issaghoula3744 no killua
@@issaghoula3744 Yet maybe but who wants to sit through all that narration for a threat the world surprisingly didn't even care about.
For the phantom troupe knowing about nen you could say that shalnark could have introduced nen to them shortly after they were formed since he’s an official hunter. I wouldn’t doubt that at least one other member was a hunter too. Also there is possibility for head canon that either the member killed by big daddy zoldyk or the one by Hisoka could have been nen users prior to joining
I would just explain the dragon dive as Killua knowing what his family members were capable of, but not knowing why until after learning Nen. He himself was capable of special skills, and such a thing could have explained his grandfather's abilities as well.
Ngl I think Killua knew it. We were shown previously that Killua has knowledge of his family’s abilities to an extent. Like how he knew exactly what to do and what not to do when it came to Alluka (tho you could say that this is because she’s a high risk person or smth, I still think he would’ve been told at some point
It's been a while since i've re-watched HxH but did we ever meet the mafia daughter after Chrolo was pierced by Kurapica's nen chain? If so it's possible all the NEN abilities he had learned were wiped clean and thus returned to their users -- Additionally it's not too far of a stretch to think the Nen exorcist who removed the nen chain from Chrolo had to also remove the nen abilities he had "stored" up.
What about Fan-made Hatsu though?
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In the manga Neons ability disappeared from chrollos book so he assumes she’s dead which means that chrollo didn’t lose any of the abilities he stole from the nen exorcist
Looking at the 1st thing bought up in relation to Killua & his grandfathers technique, aren't we forgetting something that was also learned about in the Chimera Ant Arc, is that his Brother Ilumni also placed 1 of his Needles into Killua, so it is possible that he did know of this technique once b4 he even learned Nen, with his brother putting in the Needle, he could also use it to Brainwash is 1 thing, what if this is also connected to this same thing, where the needles were also used to make Killua also forget important things he was shown in his past, this here takes place after his needle was removed, which means even some memories would return, which were once subdued.
Interesting point on the Phantom Troupe, though if I were to explain it, maybe it is linked to a number of contacts know in the Hunter X Hunter Universe, some that in somewhat do release info on the troupe, where other contacts almost play the role of people like in the real world, help play them off as Fake News, showing a Duality of worldly information.
Another good one on the Topic of Nen, I think we also need to take in effect the YuYu Hakusho universe as well with this one, because it too also used the world of Nen as well, connected to its tournament arc etc.
When we come over to Hunter X Hunter, this Nen experience sounds like it is more likely for certain characters to come to a greater understanding, plus learning about Nen, as we also saw happen with the 4 main characters, Leorio late to the party as usual on it, but when the story comes in effect, we see it focus on 3 of 4 main characters as to who will be learning this art form, an how they come to learn about it.
Also, Killua was literally being controlled by Nen and the whole family knew. That is why they never teached him. Hell, the whole point of Ilumi's characters is that he controlled Killua with Nen.
Actually, I would say prototypes of nen appear in Togashi's previous works, such as Level E. The name is even stated in Yu Yu Hakusho but it is again in a more infantile form. It'd be stranger if he came up with such a detailed power system while writing the series and not already brainstormed it before.
Also, some of these are just characters being stupid. Doesn't matter who they are, they don't know everything in their field. The Ants have only been alive a few weeks, so for him to forget Leol's name (and we didn't see the depth of their relationship) is hardly a stretch of the mind. Similarly, for anyone not knowing Phantom Troupe, Zoldycks, or Nen is simply because they really didn't know. Yeah, we meet lots of characters who can easily recognize them but that's still within their line of work. The Prince dude is just royalty, why would he need to know Nen if it doesn't concern his rule (until now)? Their father could have even kept it secret from them so there is no advantage in the succession ritual. Togashi's 'on a whim' writing is usually in the transition between storylines, everything else in between is usually cleaner although I'm sure there are better inconsistencies than these.
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So I realized yesterday tht there is still a queen ant around if not 2 and not only one and Pariston essentially has a chimera ant army at disposal plus the Ngl chunk on land.... gyro is heading back to meteor city and the troupe calls tht home....
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How many plot holes does HxH have?
Togashi: Yes
I know it's a joke but honestly it's barely any
@@ibrasome4492 Barely any? Really? Quite a fair bit if you asked me
@@theturkey4018 Not really, many comments here have already addressed the so called "plot holes", I would say the only legitimate plot holes are Kurapika not knowing that those scarlet eyes are a fake.
@@AndrewManook They've addressed them, but poorly. Most of these guys that are addressing these are aware that they are plot holes, and just start their sentences with 'maybe' because they know any reason they come up with will fall short, and are just doing it for fun
The plot holes are there but their nature is such that they aren't a deal breaker.
Biggest plothole with Killua is how the hell did he forget about Alluka until Elections arc; right when he needed her OP abilities (that only he can use without consequence) to heal Gon.
Because he knew how dangerous it was to play with fate. Killua had a lifestyle that was whatever happens happens for a reason. He broke that because his bestfriend needed him most
@@wolog1454 what? Killua never says anything like that. He actually says in the show “damn. I forgot about Alluka all this time.”
Also. He never says “whatever happens, happens”. Killua was taught to be careful and avoid unnecessary risks. That’s part of why Illumi put that needle in his head. So he can avoid danger
@@amuroray9115 Then read the scene again because he own killua said that Illumi's needle was what prevented him from remembering her. He didn't remembered Alluka until they were going to East Gorteau.
Illumi's needle
The yorknew mafia were the ones who found the Troupe and after that they stopped the search so it makes sense that the general law abiding public didn't really know since they probably didn't release the info but maybe it spread between different mafias so thats why the member of the kakin mafia recognized him
What about Fan-made Hatsu though?
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I think a really big plot hole is knov not being able to use in when he was infiltrating the palace which resulted in him being exposed to aura of shaiapouf unprotected and having his hair turn white. Even kurapika was using In in his fight against uvogin who had learned nen only few months before. It simply doesn't make sense for someone at knov's level to not know how to use in. I think it is a pretty big plot hole.
first of all knov didnt get exposed to pouf's aura, he'd only seen it and once he saw it he immediately retreated. second, knov went bald because of fear not because he was " unprotected " . So not only using in here would have been pointless since pouf's aura didnt reach knov at all .
bruh how did you come up with knov not knowing in from what we saw lmao
Do you think any members of the troupe have a fear of spiders? That would be kinda awkward
I don't think they fear anything besides not being able to continue doing crime and killing.
I just stated reading the hxh manga and I am surprise of how much the anime left out
the lack of the information about bungee gum having the properties of both rubber and gum bothers
probably one of the best hxh video uve ever seen, tysm and continur doing hxh videos plss
Can you read the MHA manga on the channel like with BC?
the plot hole or rather what confuses me ever since ...
I always wonder back when Uvo fought Kurapika... when Kurapika's chain jail caught Uvo..
Kurapika asked Uvo if he can see the chains (w/ IN) using gyo..
but why ask that in the first place if chain jail puts your enemy in zetsu?
how can uvo focus aura in his eyes if he was in a state of zetsu?
Maybe when Kurapika said "i can also use IN" Uvogin used GYO and noticed the chain the moment before he was captured
Kuapika also say that the chains were around him before (if he was already in ZETSU was impossible for him to use his 100% and crush Kurapika's arm) so the only explaination is that the chains were around Uvogin but don't have a ZETSU effect until they capture the target
yea i can see that as a plot hole.
I like that little fast shot whith Liam as Bisky while his editor is that one creepy lady who's name I can't remember.
Sure you can make another video on all the plotholes! noticed another while watching, Pitou's puppets should have gone away while healing Komugi, but it doesnt happen until after the fight with Gon. Earlier in the arc it was stated that her control of the puppets went away while healing the king.
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Nen isn't a secret. HOW to use nen is a secret.
EXACTLY. It was shown many times that people know of a superpower but can't learn it until either the hunter association assists you to learn it or the minority of other nen users that aren't hunters help you learn ,which would be both very rare (as most nen users seem to be hunters or at leat affiliated with the association ) and make no sense because why would a random non hunter nen user teach anybody and add to the people that could potentially deal with you if you end up facing ach other in the future.
Nen is a secret, but people hear about it, it’s just treated as superstition like magic or ghosts in real life or like the ghosts and demons of Yu Yu Hakusho.
@Lionard Kirsch Illumi’s needle fixes the Killua thing. Can also explain why he knew of Dragon Dive and didn’t recall Alluka until later.
@Lionard Kirsch Kakin may not watch Heaven’s Arena… royal families probably have more to do than watch TV (might not even broadcast to Kakin TV stations). And Benjamin did know of nen (probably first prince privilege- the older siblings have been shown to have perks like more guards etc. - also the closest one pictured near Beyond before the Black Whale sails).
@Lionard Kirsch - “writing the script for Togashi” But there’s nothing inferrjng from what you know, no one should be afraid to figure things out themselves just because it wasn’t all explicitly spelled out for them. Doing so can lead to excess exposition and poor pacing.
Anyone notice the easter egg at 5:45? "Anything is malleable depending on what Togashi wants to happen" + picture of Kurapika -- reference to how he was intended to be a girl
Nen was foreshadowed during the Hunter Exam even in 1999, this was during the event Gon is trailing Hisoka for his number, Hisoka using Nen when he is getting bloodthirsty finding target, Gon felt his murderous intent, and Hisoka was yet to obtain his License at the time