Back then I was angry as a Hill fan but thought of it as just a one off move by Schumacher who just got desparate in like Jonathan Palmer said in commentary "A real moment of crisis." So I just put it down as a actions of a man who panicked. Thankfully Hill won his world title in 96. What really angered me later though was when he tried this exact same move again on Jacques Villeneuve in the 1997 title decider, and then again, waiting by the side of the track to see if Villeneuve came around, just like he did at Adelaide.
@@laurentcambon Bullshit! Hill won because Villeneuve had an issue but it wouldn't have mattered because Hill lead the championship into the final race which he also won & Villeneuve crashed out because he couldn't cope with the pressure of Hill's blistering pace. These are pure facts not excuses. But your comment sounds like an excuse to dis Hill so I'm now going to do the same in Favor of Lewis Hamilton explaining to why he is a more convincing 7 times world champion than Schumacher. In 94 Schumacher deserved to be banned from Silverstone for accelerating past Damon on the warm up lap before the start of the race which he did on at least two separate occasions. Benetton cheated throughout most of the year using illegal traction control systems. Schumacher deliberately drove into Hill in Adelaide to win the title. Between 2000 & 2004, Ferrari had some of the most dominant F1 cars in the history of the sport & also Barrichello who quite often kicked Schumacher's ass had to move over to let him win. Most of those Ferrari's were so dominant compared to the Mercedes of today. Also Hamilton has never had team orders in his favor throughout a season neither has he ever had to drive into anyone or somehow cheat to win. He had to work his ass off to win all 7 of his titles fair & square unlike Schumacher who took Hill out at Adelaide, Villeneuve attempt failed at Jerez, Came out of the pit lane & drove Frentzen of the track into retirement at Montreal & almost forced Barrichello to crash by over defending at the Hungaroring although at least one of those wasn't relevant to Schumacher in a championship title fight, it still is clear evidence that shows what a dirty cheating cu*t he was.
@@robsmith2925 ha ha ha hamiltons 7 titles are a dime a dozen...and the only reason hes been cruising the last few years is because rosberg left...dont get me wrong he is a top driver and deserves to be in f1...but hes 7 titles are not convincing...a jim clarke or stirling moss wouldve have won 20 titles in that car
@@robsmith2925 also the time when he parked his car in the last bend during monaco qualifying pretending he had a problem so that no one else could improve their own lap times
@@THM2008 You were wishing for Max to hit Hamilton so Hamilton would be handed the championship. It got handed to someone alright, just not the one you wanted
I was a fan of Hill. Schumacher did an unsportmanlike maneuvre but I still regret that Hill did not wait 2 or 3 seconds more to try to overtake him. Schumacher had lost a lot of speed after he had hit the wall and Hill could have passed him easily just a few hundreds of meters further on.
Schumacher had talent. Hill - didnt. Hill won in 1996 just cause of car, incredible level of tech, thanks to Adrian Newey (Later in 1998-1999 u saw his talent in McLaren) . Bit i agree with u about "An unsportmanlike maneuvre".
@@rodris8461 Yes, but than we can talk about the nonsense penalties that Schumacher got that could have changed this years championship. And that Senna should have been WC in 1994 😪
If James Hunt was driving instead of Hill and Schumacher did that to him, put it this way Schumacher wouldn't do that again. Also, if Senna was alive still that year, could you imagine if Schumacher did that to Senna? The first race of 1995 was the Brazilian GP and the fans...wow
@@tippersimracing6070 I don't think Senna would fall for it neither would Prost. Senna would've been able to read his car and see how Schumi was controlling the car and realise it was broken. You have to remember Senna pulled that stuff on Prost in 1990, he would likely expect it from Michael. The reason why Hill went out is because he went for it too soon and Michael's wheel ran over his, snapping the wishbone. Had what happened to Villeneuve happened to Hill, Hill would be a two time champion
@@tippersimracing6070 Senna would have started on pole, and shumacher wouldn't have seen him the whole race. And it wouldn't have mattered because Senna would have been 20 points ahead at that point
I can§t believe everyone thinks it was Schumi's fault. Hill came up the inside late in the corner, he should have just waited for the next. I t was his fault entirely...Schumi got lucky.
Blah blah blah, schumacher turned into the corner when a car was on the inside whether he was alongside or front wheel to side pod. Michael knew where hill was, you can see on both onboards how much michael steered into hill. No sane driver turns that much into a corner when a driver is there on the inside.
Today, We still seeing some cars try to overtake from the inside and the car in front close the door and some times stewards deem it as racing accident. You will then hear the defending car saying he was ahead and the overtaking car saying opponent should let him pass. This race wouldn’t be controversial if it wasn’t a title deciding race
Yeah it might have but don't you think the Adelaide grand Prix had more drama and more of excitement than Melbourne grand Prix? Boring as shit now! Back then you had a lot of rivals even team mates. The character of the sport is gone??
I was angry with Schumacher at that time but seeing it now over and over again I have to admit that it was correct not to disqualify him for this. Even though Schumacher made a mistake at the previous corner, Hill forcibly tried to overtake him afterwards. Hill was still clearly behind him when he tried to overtake. In this case I think Hill has to brake. Schumacher does not have to give him space when he clearly is in front of him. If you think Schumacher should keep „the door open“ still I think it was not smart by Hill to forcibly overtake in this corner. If he would have kept calm and kept a clear head he for sure would have had a better chance later in the race. I‘m sorry but for me, now seeing it more neutrally, it was the mistake by Hill which costed him the championship. And concerning the Villeneuve incident later, that is NOT the same event like what happened to Hill as Villeneuve was in front during the overtaking maneuver. This was clearly Schumacher‘s fault in that case and a correct disqualification, giving advantage to Villeneuve.
Lol, Schumacher's right rear suspension was broken, you can see it wobbling after he comes back in track. There's no way he was going to finish the race with the car in that state so he did the only thing he could and took Hill out. He quite clearly looks in both mirrors and then swerves to the right once he sees Hill coming. Sure, Hill could have waited but he hadn't seen Schumacher go off track so didn't know his car was damaged. Whatever, doesn't change the fact it was a desperate and dirty move by Schumacher.
Hill had been held up by a backmarker on the lap before the crash and crucially wasn’t right behind Schumacher when he hit the wall so didn’t see him hit the wall and know Schumacher s car was damage and thought he had to pass Schumacher there and then but if he’d just stayed behind him he would have past him further around, it’s interesting that he wasn’t disqualified from the championship but he was disqualified when he done the same thing in Jerez in 1997 when he didn’t win the title.
Honestly I think there was literally no space for hill to pull off that overtake , he committed to a gap which was closing no matter what , if you seen Schumacher onboard he was ahead , his line was aiming for the apex nothing wrong there
The situation of Adelaide 94 is very different from Jerez 97. In Australia Schumacher was still in front of Hill, close his trajectory, Hill try to pass through an impossible space and the crash happened. In Jerez 97 Villeneuve already passed Schumi and he deliberately hit the Williams.
If that was Nigel Mansell in Damon Hill's shoes, you can bet that Michael Schumacher would be making a hasty retreat for the airport rather than staying put 😂
Hill was cut off, no doubt. HOWEVER he should have recognised that Schumacher’s car was fatally damaged and waited for a safer overtaking opportunity. Difficult in the heat of the moment.
Well he didn't expect a fellow professional driver to kamikaze into his car. Who would expect that? Schumachers legacy for me will be as a cheat. He could win 50 titles and he'd still be remembered as a cheat
I think Schumi's driving at this exact incident is a bit harsh, but questioning the fact that he definitely deserved to win the title in 1994 or saying he isn't the greatest ever is just silliness from Hill fans. Watch all the races through 1994 and you will laugh at any suggestion that Schumi was not the right winner that year. He was frighteningly good and I also think there's little debate that he is the best ever.
it isnt just Hill fans - its most of the World fan base and most of the F1 drivers themselves who claim that Senna was the greatest ever, while Schumacher may not even be top 10 - and certainly not top 3 - as Prost and Clark have a very strong claim to being better than Schumacher too - and Senna was better than them both!
@Ethan Weeter Harder today? Schu won with the best car? I don't think we've been watching the same sport. The cars practically drive themselves today and Hamilton and Vettel have spent each and every one of their title years in a car that was way ahead of any other car in the field - unlike Schumacher who twice drove a Bennetton to the world title, a car that was the 4th or 5th best. His teammate - be it Herbert, Salo or someone third, always qualified 8-10.
@@ChrJahnsen Not to mention besides 2002 and 2004 Ferarri weren't running away from their titles. McLaren, Renault and at times Williams were all there keeping them honest. Mercedes literally has no competition.
Thats not true...Schumacher was still leading and Hill coming from behind went for a closing gap. In any accident report that makes Hill at fault. Hill could have just been more patient and take a safer overtaking point.
@@4ll4nb31l he went for the gap because he could overtake him, as he was much faster... Schumacher deliberately slammed into him knowing it was his best chance. There's no scenario in which this isn't his fault
Mister Rominade well formula 1 stewards didnt see it like you did. Not even damon hill himself. in no interview did he complain that michael took him out. he knows that his attempt was rushed and in the end wrong to try it in an closing corner.
@@4ll4nb31l I don't even see the problem in the corner where they collided,.but in the one before. Schumacher went off and the. Directly veered across the entire track, deliberately and dangerously blocking it. Hill could easily have overtaken at that point, if Schumacher hadn't violently gone all zig zag.
Looking back.If Hill had the patience to wait for a few laps or even corners he would have won the WDC. Obiviously Schumacher is to blame here... But Hill.... If you waited a few moments to pass...
Come on, Hill was not fully alongside, although he could have been had he not been braking that hard. If only he drove Schumacher to the outside, colliding wheels to wheels with full car length, IT would have continued. The collision itself - 50/50.
Eso pasa todo los años en muchas carreras con diferentes pilotos. Hill también podría haber cerrado más la curva x fuera de ella para evitar el toque y Schumacher no haberlo cerrado.
cerrar más aún la curva, pero tu viste por donde la tomó. Y en el 97 Vileneue pudo no adelantarlo Fue y seguramente será, el piloto más sucio de la historia del automovilismo
Hill, Hill, Hill, Hill,..... what a STUPID MOVE! There was no room and he tried to squeeze it. IF he would be a bit smarter, just a tiny bit, he would have waited and pass him later on!
No one, not even Hill fans can deny the shocking English bias from Palmer as Hill slams his FRONT wheel into MSC's sidepod. MSC had every right to cover his line, he was ALWAYS in front, Hill was NEVER alongside. Maybe people should be asking why Hill was 1 point behind after MSC missed 4 races for points, only having points award in 12 of the 16 races, and Hill won those 4.
too bad Hill didn't keep his cool and waited for the next straight after the corner. Schumacher was dead in the water. Schumacher lured him to the inside and closed the trap! Schumacher won the F1 championship, and NOT the Humanitarian of the Year award ;-)
Hill hadn't seen how hard Schumacher hit the wall. He probably thought it had been just a small mistake without car damage and his one-time chance to overtake Schumacher.
name any F1 racer that “keeps his cool,” at such pivotal time in racing... Exactly. From the sounds of it, Schumacher a hero in your eyes. A fraudulent repugnant scumbag 1994 F1 champion in the eyes of too many.
Schumacher couldn't take the pressure & lost it, then decided to ram his opponent off the track. This wasn't the last time he did this & his career was a long list of cheating.
The suspension components are not designed to hot swap in and out quickly - its probably 10 minute job at best to get a new suspension piece in and the suspension aligned. Thats WAAAY too slow - thats about 7 laps down. Pointless - the jig was up im afraid - nothing to do
Hill could have waited to take him at the next corner or straight knowing Schu with possible damage will defend at all costs and possibly take you out, the Willians was a far superior car and Hill was good but not great
Those who say that he is bad driver and didn't deserved 7 champions, are just wrong! schumi was't experienced enough at that time, and he still won 2 (okey 1 if you don't count this), as a veey young driver, and later he won 4 more!
If you think your going to get blocked by a stubborn driver you need to brake to stay in the race. Neither driver was relinquishing that one what a race
Verstappen is wrecking Hamilton lap 1, turn 1. I'm not a Hamilton fan but just saying mark my words. Max wins the title if both guys dnf, so don't be shocked. Max don't care if the fans like it or not. He will do anything.
I think Hill drove better in 94 than in 96. 96 was bit too easy, but he had to really fight in 94. M Schumacher the dirtiest driver there’s ever been and should have been penalised in 94 like he was in 97
After 7 races, he did 6 and the other, he was second because he was blocked in 5th gear, FIA disqualified him for a lot of races in order to maintain competition.
Pffft another laughable comments by a Brits fans, Schumacher had been disqualified twice that year and still came to the last race as a Championship leader, Hill with 0 disqualification still came behind him, you really can't understand simple logic, can you? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Qwert797 like in LITERALLY ANY GIVEN SECTOR IN LIFE…. Not only sports! You do not get to the top without stepping on some toes! Let’s see if VER can win 7 WC and be going for a record breaking 8th without effing some rivals up on the way. For gods sake, he hasn’t even won 1 and is already thought to be the most aggressive, selfish driver on the track by many.
I was mad at Hamilton after the British GP incident, but I fundamentally agree with this. Senna got me into F1, and he had plenty of similar moments, so I have to concede.
Schumacher was still ahead of Hill going into the corner, by almost an entire car length. Hill also moved from the right to the left at the last moment. Hill then sticks it in there and shoots Schumacher into the tires? Not sure you can blame Schumacher especially as he was still in front of Hill!
Christo du Plessis Hill was alongside Michael at the point where he starts to turn into the corner. Michael knee Hill was there and turned in anyway. Hill’s move was absolutely fine.
@@velocitaaa no he was not, Hill was alongside Schumacher after Schumacher turned, even when Hill hit Schumacher's sidepod, he still hit the back of Schumacher's sidepod! It was a Kamikaze move by Hill!
@@mjuwildia9271 You're not making any sense. Hill was alongside and Schumacher knew that so he turned in because he didn't want Hill to get past. Hill entitled to space at that point and it was a kamikaze move by Schumacher. Please stop shilling for Schumacher and this move. It's kinda sad.
People compare this to Jerez incident but there's no relation. I think in this one Schumacher just tried desperately to close the door and didn't try to crash into hill. Hill could have waited for an easier pass to win the title
"He could have waited" is not a proof that SCH didnt do it on purpose That was in that stuation the only chance for SCH to become WC. So his reaction or essence of person is bad and cheating Not a fair sportsman in every sight
What a fucking super chater Schumacher was since the 1994 British Grand Prix after surpassing poleman Hill in the formation lap and ignoring twice the black flag. Is like this when Schumacher has been blamed by the UK public for the incident
@ston3s @sjsharp2007 , Schumacher got banned many times that year and really should have won like 4 races before that anyway. schumacher is the best, the fia didnt want michael that year.
"Cheating" probably isn't the appropriate word. It connotes a plan of some sort. This was a reaction. In the heat of the crisis, all he had time to think was that he absolutely had to stay in front of Hill. His move to accomplish that was reckless and should have been penalized as a violation, though. People say he was 'dirty' but in this instance, he was just competitive and desperate, all in the space of a few seconds.
the phrase "cheating" can apply to any action that is intended to dishonestly manufacture an outcome, it doesn't have to have a plan to do it. maradona's "hand of god" happened in the heat of the moment, would you say that wasn't cheating? saying he was competitive and desperate, and then trying water the accusation of cheating down doesn't square. what he did WAS cheating, and he cemented his reputation again in the championship deciding race just 3 seasons later, which thankfully worked against him, because of his past form. cheats don't need to plan in advance, they can cheat on call as and when they need to.
@@surebrec5113 We don't disagree. But, as you said, the word "cheating" *_can_* apply to any action...etc. My perspective was that, in this specific discussion, there's a nuanced difference between 'a cheater' versus someone who panicked, and reacted improperly, which then resulted in an advantage. The results are the same. The character of the person is different.
@@CentaurusRelax314 your perspective is wrong. panicking is panicking, panicking and and then acting improperly to take your rival out is cheating. the option is always there to act properly, no matter the situation.
@@surebrec5113 By that strict, context-less definition, then every driver is guilty of "cheating," because they've all made bad decisions in a moment of reaction to something. You're also discounting psychology and situation altogether. Schumacher had time to process ONE thing in that moment-that he needed to be in front of Hill to win a championship that he had worked for all year. To be honest, from the first video perspective i watched, i held your viewpoint-that he was a dirty, calculated cheater. From the second two perspectives, the timing was so quick, and his car position wasn't so that he could see anything of value in his mirrors-the impulse to get back on track and stay ahead was all there was time for. That's not a matter of an 'option to act properly.' And i don't think that makes someone a "cheater" in isolation. If you're driving your hatchback to the market and swerve to avoid a tortoise on the road, and then subsequently hit a cyclist on the other side of the road, you didn't really have an 'option to act properly.' You reacted with negative consequence. Now, if you want to add up other 'deeds,' that's a different story. Either way, i do believe he should have been penalized and not won the championship. An advantage gotten by improper means should not have been 'rewarded.'
@@CentaurusRelax314 not every driver deliberately drove a title rival off at the defining moment of the season. prost did it to senna in '89, and vice versa in '90. schumacher did it twice in '94 and '97. he also deliberately parked his car at the exit of the next to last corner of the track in monaco to preserve his pole position time, or was that another example of a "decision taken in the moment"? he cheated. he fucked up by going off the track, he knew he had fucked up, he knew hill was right behind him and was going to take the place and potentially win the title. you don't need more than a split second to decide to cheat. again, maradona's "hand of god". furthermore, I need to add, it wasn't a split-second decision. after the impact, he had several seconds to come to the realisation that he'd fucked up.
Max will do it if he has to just like in any race but he’s learned enough to manage the risk better these days. He won’t wipe Lewis out just to win, it’s not a true enjoyable win if he does, although there may be an accident they can’t avoid, this will be race of the decade I hope 🤣👊🏼
He won’t wipe Lewis out….again. No one debates his skullduggery, they just say stop crying. Accept it. It is over. It really never will be. The way Schumacher will not be. Honor has to matter.
I still see Hill more at fault here. Wanted Hill to win so bad and was fuming in the day but he was never ahead and shoved it up the inside, what was he expecting, really wish he just waited for the straight.
Agree completely. Hill did not deserve the title in 1994 regardless of what one may think of this exact incident. Schu was light years ahead of anyone.
vettel looks like shumy, both are good drivers, but when they are under pressure, they lose control easily, shummy won 7 f-1 championship but never he have been champion when he was under pressure, 1997, 1998 2006, this accidente with hill was a shame to F-1,
This, the Villeneuve incident, the stopping in Monaco Qualily to stop others finishing the lap and the black flag in Silverstone are the reasons why Schumacher will never be one of the best drivers of all time imo.
Hill's fault, he shouldn't just dive further back not even alongside Schumacher, he could have waited for the next corner to make a move, poor judgment by Hill, like he did the next year when he took out Schumacher twice, but for those moments people are silent, wonder why
The despair in Hill's eyes is truly heartbreaking
Back then I was angry as a Hill fan but thought of it as just a one off move by Schumacher who just got desparate in like Jonathan Palmer said in commentary "A real moment of crisis." So I just put it down as a actions of a man who panicked. Thankfully Hill won his world title in 96.
What really angered me later though was when he tried this exact same move again on Jacques Villeneuve in the 1997 title decider, and then again, waiting by the side of the track to see if Villeneuve came around, just like he did at Adelaide.
nufcdazzla Hill won in 1996 only because Villeneuve was asked to slow down at the 1st GP ans let Hill pass him.
It wasn't even Michael's first time doing this. He did it to Hakkinen in 1990 at Macao as well
@@laurentcambon Bullshit! Hill won because Villeneuve had an issue but it wouldn't have mattered because Hill lead the championship into the final race which he also won & Villeneuve crashed out because he couldn't cope with the pressure of Hill's blistering pace. These are pure facts not excuses.
But your comment sounds like an excuse to dis Hill so I'm now going to do the same in Favor of Lewis Hamilton explaining to why he is a more convincing 7 times world champion than Schumacher.
In 94 Schumacher deserved to be banned from Silverstone for accelerating past Damon on the warm up lap before the start of the race which he did on at least two separate occasions. Benetton cheated throughout most of the year using illegal traction control systems. Schumacher deliberately drove into Hill in Adelaide to win the title.
Between 2000 & 2004, Ferrari had some of the most dominant F1 cars in the history of the sport & also Barrichello who quite often kicked Schumacher's ass had to move over to let him win. Most of those Ferrari's were so dominant compared to the Mercedes of today. Also Hamilton has never had team orders in his favor throughout a season neither has he ever had to drive into anyone or somehow cheat to win. He had to work his ass off to win all 7 of his titles fair & square unlike Schumacher who took Hill out at Adelaide, Villeneuve attempt failed at Jerez, Came out of the pit lane & drove Frentzen of the track into retirement at Montreal & almost forced Barrichello to crash by over defending at the Hungaroring although at least one of those wasn't relevant to Schumacher in a championship title fight, it still is clear evidence that shows what a dirty cheating cu*t he was.
@@robsmith2925 ha ha ha hamiltons 7 titles are a dime a dozen...and the only reason hes been cruising the last few years is because rosberg left...dont get me wrong he is a top driver and deserves to be in f1...but hes 7 titles are not convincing...a jim clarke or stirling moss wouldve have won 20 titles in that car
@@robsmith2925 also the time when he parked his car in the last bend during monaco qualifying pretending he had a problem so that no one else could improve their own lap times
If Max does this >140IQ move, Toto will definitely box Bottas for levis to finish in a different vehicle
If Maxine does this he will be disqualified from the standings. So let's hope he does it. Come on Lewis!!
@M no
@@THM2008 how'd your wish pan out for you there buddy?
@@williamjenner3604 where did I wish anything "buddy"?
@@THM2008 You were wishing for Max to hit Hamilton so Hamilton would be handed the championship. It got handed to someone alright, just not the one you wanted
I was a fan of Hill. Schumacher did an unsportmanlike maneuvre but I still regret that Hill did not wait 2 or 3 seconds more to try to overtake him. Schumacher had lost a lot of speed after he had hit the wall and Hill could have passed him easily just a few hundreds of meters further on.
Schumacher had talent. Hill - didnt. Hill won in 1996 just cause of car, incredible level of tech, thanks to Adrian Newey (Later in 1998-1999 u saw his talent in McLaren)
. Bit i agree with u about "An unsportmanlike maneuvre".
I see your point, but this is the same as saying a woman is to blame when she is raped because she is too pretty..,
@@rodris8461 Yes, but than we can talk about the nonsense penalties that Schumacher got that could have changed this years championship. And that Senna should have been WC in 1994 😪
exactly...hills own fault
@@4fantasylove Hiil no talent..? This guy won championships on two wheels before winning many on four.
If James Hunt was still alive, he would've cussed the hell out of Michael
If James Hunt was driving instead of Hill and Schumacher did that to him, put it this way Schumacher wouldn't do that again. Also, if Senna was alive still that year, could you imagine if Schumacher did that to Senna? The first race of 1995 was the Brazilian GP and the fans...wow
@@tippersimracing6070 I don't think Senna would fall for it neither would Prost. Senna would've been able to read his car and see how Schumi was controlling the car and realise it was broken. You have to remember Senna pulled that stuff on Prost in 1990, he would likely expect it from Michael. The reason why Hill went out is because he went for it too soon and Michael's wheel ran over his, snapping the wishbone. Had what happened to Villeneuve happened to Hill, Hill would be a two time champion
@@tippersimracing6070 Senna would have started on pole, and shumacher wouldn't have seen him the whole race. And it wouldn't have mattered because Senna would have been 20 points ahead at that point
So sad for Damon 😕
Damon Hill: "No Mikey! No! No Mikey! That was so not right!"
Formula 1, in my opinion, was too lenient at the time. Schumacher should have been penalised in some manner and Hill should have won the Championship.
In the same way Prost had to be penalised in 1989 Japanese GP for the touch with Senna. And Ayrton was disqualified!
Antonio Statis Senna should be disqualified in 1990 too, then.
@@astatis Prost should have been penalized in 89
Senna should have been in 90
Schumacher here in 94
They are all guilty.
@@mpa1931 But they gave the title to Prost in '89, Senna in '90 and Schumi in '94 ...
@@astatis In 1989 Senna just desperately went full torpedo into Prost. No reason at all to penalize Prost, stop being a deluded fangirl please.
YES! … OOHHH!!
Ah Murray, you great legend, you. :)
Quite simply he's the GOAT :)
@@Tagikakibau and always will be.
I can§t believe everyone thinks it was Schumi's fault. Hill came up the inside late in the corner, he should have just waited for the next. I t was his fault entirely...Schumi got lucky.
Blah blah blah, schumacher turned into the corner when a car was on the inside whether he was alongside or front wheel to side pod. Michael knew where hill was, you can see on both onboards how much michael steered into hill. No sane driver turns that much into a corner when a driver is there on the inside.
yep, pretty naive and impatient by Damon, all he had to do was wait two seconds and he goes by a stricken Michael.
Today, We still seeing some cars try to overtake from the inside and the car in front close the door and some times stewards deem it as racing accident. You will then hear the defending car saying he was ahead and the overtaking car saying opponent should let him pass. This race wouldn’t be controversial if it wasn’t a title deciding race
Oh come on, Shumacher had just smashed into the wall and was at a virtual standstill. its not remotely the same
RIP Murray
A very sad day that was
Yeah it might have but don't you think the Adelaide grand Prix had more drama and more of excitement than Melbourne grand Prix? Boring as shit now! Back then you had a lot of rivals even team mates. The character of the sport is gone??
Hopefully, history won't repeat itself in the 2021 Abu Dhabi GP.
Edit: History didn't repeat itself, but still a sour taste.
Hopefully yes, i hope Perez will hit Hamilton 😍
I was angry with Schumacher at that time but seeing it now over and over again I have to admit that it was correct not to disqualify him for this. Even though Schumacher made a mistake at the previous corner, Hill forcibly tried to overtake him afterwards. Hill was still clearly behind him when he tried to overtake. In this case I think Hill has to brake. Schumacher does not have to give him space when he clearly is in front of him. If you think Schumacher should keep „the door open“ still I think it was not smart by Hill to forcibly overtake in this corner. If he would have kept calm and kept a clear head he for sure would have had a better chance later in the race. I‘m sorry but for me, now seeing it more neutrally, it was the mistake by Hill which costed him the championship.
And concerning the Villeneuve incident later, that is NOT the same event like what happened to Hill as Villeneuve was in front during the overtaking maneuver. This was clearly Schumacher‘s fault in that case and a correct disqualification, giving advantage to Villeneuve.
😂😂😂😂
Thank you for being one of the only people in this thread with great analysis and an unbiased opinion. Unfortunately it's not so clear to everyone.
One of the most objective opinion for this case, unfortunately, most of Hill fans chose to be blind about this
The truth!!
Lol, Schumacher's right rear suspension was broken, you can see it wobbling after he comes back in track. There's no way he was going to finish the race with the car in that state so he did the only thing he could and took Hill out. He quite clearly looks in both mirrors and then swerves to the right once he sees Hill coming. Sure, Hill could have waited but he hadn't seen Schumacher go off track so didn't know his car was damaged. Whatever, doesn't change the fact it was a desperate and dirty move by Schumacher.
Hill had been held up by a backmarker on the lap before the crash and crucially wasn’t right behind Schumacher when he hit the wall so didn’t see him hit the wall and know Schumacher s car was damage and thought he had to pass Schumacher there and then but if he’d just stayed behind him he would have past him further around, it’s interesting that he wasn’t disqualified from the championship but he was disqualified when he done the same thing in Jerez in 1997 when he didn’t win the title.
Honestly I think there was literally no space for hill to pull off that overtake , he committed to a gap which was closing no matter what , if you seen Schumacher onboard he was ahead , his line was aiming for the apex nothing wrong there
Schumacher's car was finished, he checked his mirror and saw Damon and chopped him
The situation of Adelaide 94 is very different from Jerez 97. In Australia Schumacher was still in front of Hill, close his trajectory, Hill try to pass through an impossible space and the crash happened. In Jerez 97 Villeneuve already passed Schumi and he deliberately hit the Williams.
@@ghilardipaolo The clown also had a clearly broken car when he closed the apex on Hill while looking firmly in his mirrors
The 'OH! Out goes Schumacher!' commentary is iconic ngl
Адреналин Хилла сделал Михаэля чемпионом
Max Verstappen you have been given the blueprint...
Shumaquer muito trapasseiro jogando ocarro em cima dos outros pilotos .
@Tharus12
lol. what about senna?
Hill should have waited one more corner then he could have passed easily ..,
FFS he’s in a Williams in there prime
I searched "schumacher hill crash"
The only even vaguely similar incident to HAM-ALO at Les Combes.
If that was Nigel Mansell in Damon Hill's shoes, you can bet that Michael Schumacher would be making a hasty retreat for the airport rather than staying put 😂
Hill was cut off, no doubt. HOWEVER he should have recognised that Schumacher’s car was fatally damaged and waited for a safer overtaking opportunity. Difficult in the heat of the moment.
Well he didn't expect a fellow professional driver to kamikaze into his car. Who would expect that? Schumachers legacy for me will be as a cheat. He could win 50 titles and he'd still be remembered as a cheat
This collision won the German Michael Schumacher his first of 7 crowns in F1. From Joe. X
Saddly MR. Hill had not a second car in the pit.
I think Schumi's driving at this exact incident is a bit harsh, but questioning the fact that he definitely deserved to win the title in 1994 or saying he isn't the greatest ever is just silliness from Hill fans. Watch all the races through 1994 and you will laugh at any suggestion that Schumi was not the right winner that year. He was frighteningly good and I also think there's little debate that he is the best ever.
it isnt just Hill fans - its most of the World fan base and most of the F1 drivers themselves who claim that Senna was the greatest ever, while Schumacher may not even be top 10 - and certainly not top 3 - as Prost and Clark have a very strong claim to being better than Schumacher too - and Senna was better than them both!
@Ethan Weeter Harder today? Schu won with the best car? I don't think we've been watching the same sport. The cars practically drive themselves today and Hamilton and Vettel have spent each and every one of their title years in a car that was way ahead of any other car in the field - unlike Schumacher who twice drove a Bennetton to the world title, a car that was the 4th or 5th best. His teammate - be it Herbert, Salo or someone third, always qualified 8-10.
@@ChrJahnsen Not to mention besides 2002 and 2004 Ferarri weren't running away from their titles. McLaren, Renault and at times Williams were all there keeping them honest. Mercedes literally has no competition.
One reason why I never respected Schumacher as a Sportsman.
So it wasn't Schumachers corner?
@@kammschupper it's never Schumacher's corner for the British fans
@@mjuwildia9271 you are absolutely right. Imagine the other way around! Hill was too late. That's easy.
Schumi went for the crash twice!
Yes. Was like watching somebody at go carting
Theres no doubt Shumacher is a legend but on this occiation he cheated to win the championship!
He was always a cheat
Thats not true...Schumacher was still leading and Hill coming from behind went for a closing gap. In any accident report that makes Hill at fault. Hill could have just been more patient and take a safer overtaking point.
@@4ll4nb31l he went for the gap because he could overtake him, as he was much faster... Schumacher deliberately slammed into him knowing it was his best chance. There's no scenario in which this isn't his fault
Mister Rominade well formula 1 stewards didnt see it like you did. Not even damon hill himself. in no interview did he complain that michael took him out. he knows that his attempt was rushed and in the end wrong to try it in an closing corner.
@@4ll4nb31l I don't even see the problem in the corner where they collided,.but in the one before.
Schumacher went off and the. Directly veered across the entire track, deliberately and dangerously blocking it. Hill could easily have overtaken at that point, if Schumacher hadn't violently gone all zig zag.
it was clearly Damon’s fault, Michael was already inside and he forcibly tried to get through Schumacher causing the accident
Looking back.If Hill had the patience to wait for a few laps or even corners he would have won the WDC. Obiviously Schumacher is to blame here... But Hill.... If you waited a few moments to pass...
Yeah the victim is at fault clearly
@@Fredhamnewey "Obiviously Schumacher is to blame here..."
Come on, Hill was not fully alongside, although he could have been had he not been braking that hard. If only he drove Schumacher to the outside, colliding wheels to wheels with full car length, IT would have continued.
The collision itself - 50/50.
50 50 suck deez nuts mate😂
Eso pasa todo los años en muchas carreras con diferentes pilotos. Hill también podría haber cerrado más la curva x fuera de ella para evitar el toque y Schumacher no haberlo cerrado.
cerrar más aún la curva, pero tu viste por donde la tomó.
Y en el 97 Vileneue pudo no adelantarlo
Fue y seguramente será, el piloto más sucio de la historia del automovilismo
we don't want this to happen in this Sunday,if so I'll quit watching F1
They should have stripped Schumacher of all the points of the 1994 championship for what he did im Adelaide, like ut happened in 1997.
Hill, Hill, Hill, Hill,..... what a STUPID MOVE! There was no room and he tried to squeeze it. IF he would be a bit smarter, just a tiny bit, he would have waited and pass him later on!
100%! I wouldnt have tried it from Hills perspective (the clip showed his camera perspective). It would have paid off.
Exactly
Schumacher didn't cut the curve
No one, not even Hill fans can deny the shocking English bias from Palmer as Hill slams his FRONT wheel into MSC's sidepod.
MSC had every right to cover his line, he was ALWAYS in front, Hill was NEVER alongside.
Maybe people should be asking why Hill was 1 point behind after MSC missed 4 races for points, only having points award in 12 of the 16 races, and Hill won those 4.
Its what I do in sim racing
Could they have swapped drivers le mans style? Hill taking over Mansels car?
Same like 97 in Jerez
Schumi was the huge jerk in f1
too bad Hill didn't keep his cool and waited for the next straight after the corner. Schumacher was dead in the water.
Schumacher lured him to the inside and closed the trap!
Schumacher won the F1 championship, and NOT the Humanitarian of the Year award ;-)
No but later ...
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Hill hadn't seen how hard Schumacher hit the wall. He probably thought it had been just a small mistake without car damage and his one-time chance to overtake Schumacher.
name any F1 racer that “keeps his cool,” at such pivotal time in racing... Exactly.
From the sounds of it, Schumacher a hero in your eyes. A fraudulent repugnant scumbag 1994 F1 champion in the eyes of too many.
Horrible, and the same affair in 1997 against Villeneuve. oh the angry lion.
@Tharus12 completly agree.
M Schumacher doesn't make mistakes
Schumacher couldn't take the pressure & lost it, then decided to ram his opponent off the track. This wasn't the last time he did this & his career was a long list of cheating.
The first of a few times he tried this stunt to win a championship! Great driver but dirty at times
How hard was it to just bring a goddamn wrench in that situation?!
The suspension components are not designed to hot swap in and out quickly - its probably 10 minute job at best to get a new suspension piece in and the suspension aligned. Thats WAAAY too slow - thats about 7 laps down. Pointless - the jig was up im afraid - nothing to do
Hill could have waited to take him at the next corner or straight knowing Schu with possible damage will defend at all costs and possibly take you out, the Willians was a far superior car and Hill was good but not great
1:50
Those who say that he is bad driver and didn't deserved 7 champions, are just wrong!
schumi was't experienced enough at that time, and he still won 2 (okey 1 if you don't count this), as a veey young driver, and later he won 4 more!
NakkiapinaFTW Schumacher should have been banned.
Schumacher closed the door and rightly so, it was his only chance.
senna first chmpionship battle vs Schumacher first championship battle 🤣🤣🤣🤣
If you think your going to get blocked by a stubborn driver you need to brake to stay in the race. Neither driver was relinquishing that one what a race
@BabyTua the video was't about him
I guess you can say karma got schumacher.
Ummm burger
@Tharus12 i know this is old but....umhum..correction 7 time...hehehehe
Karma????
Looking back, it looks like Hill should have just wanted a little bit. Bonehead.
Capace soltanto di scorrettezze...
Hope for Hamilton's sake Verstappen don't do the same to him in Abu Dhabi this year if Hamilton wins in Saudi Arabia
Verstappen is wrecking Hamilton lap 1, turn 1. I'm not a Hamilton fan but just saying mark my words. Max wins the title if both guys dnf, so don't be shocked. Max don't care if the fans like it or not. He will do anything.
Idol 😂
@BabyTua
Senna is the true legend of the entire sport to be honest, RIP.
I think Hill drove better in 94 than in 96. 96 was bit too easy, but he had to really fight in 94. M Schumacher the dirtiest driver there’s ever been and should have been penalised in 94 like he was in 97
After 7 races, he did 6 and the other, he was second because he was blocked in 5th gear, FIA disqualified him for a lot of races in order to maintain competition.
Pffft another laughable comments by a Brits fans, Schumacher had been disqualified twice that year and still came to the last race as a Championship leader, Hill with 0 disqualification still came behind him, you really can't understand simple logic, can you? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@mjuwildia9271Bruuuuuh another Schumacher fan. So can we call the 29/12/2013 as a justice?
I guess Hamilton is the only "dirty" driver in F1 history
No but equally as dirty as some of the dirtiest to do it
@@Qwert797 like in LITERALLY ANY GIVEN SECTOR IN LIFE…. Not only sports! You do not get to the top without stepping on some toes! Let’s see if VER can win 7 WC and be going for a record breaking 8th without effing some rivals up on the way. For gods sake, he hasn’t even won 1 and is already thought to be the most aggressive, selfish driver on the track by many.
I was mad at Hamilton after the British GP incident, but I fundamentally agree with this. Senna got me into F1, and he had plenty of similar moments, so I have to concede.
Schumacher was still ahead of Hill going into the corner, by almost an entire car length. Hill also moved from the right to the left at the last moment. Hill then sticks it in there and shoots Schumacher into the tires? Not sure you can blame Schumacher especially as he was still in front of Hill!
Christo du Plessis Hill was alongside Michael at the point where he starts to turn into the corner. Michael knee Hill was there and turned in anyway. Hill’s move was absolutely fine.
@@velocitaaa no he was not, Hill was alongside Schumacher after Schumacher turned, even when Hill hit Schumacher's sidepod, he still hit the back of Schumacher's sidepod! It was a Kamikaze move by Hill!
@@mjuwildia9271 You're not making any sense. Hill was alongside and Schumacher knew that so he turned in because he didn't want Hill to get past. Hill entitled to space at that point and it was a kamikaze move by Schumacher.
Please stop shilling for Schumacher and this move. It's kinda sad.
People compare this to Jerez incident but there's no relation. I think in this one Schumacher just tried desperately to close the door and didn't try to crash into hill. Hill could have waited for an easier pass to win the title
"He could have waited" is not a proof that SCH didnt do it on purpose
That was in that stuation the only chance for SCH to become WC.
So his reaction or essence of person is bad and cheating
Not a fair sportsman in every sight
What a fucking super chater Schumacher was since the 1994 British Grand Prix after surpassing poleman Hill in the formation lap and ignoring twice the black flag. Is like this when Schumacher has been blamed by the UK public for the incident
Well, every non-UK drivers and teams are labeled cheater by the UK public, but they are the real losers actually
GOAT never makes this mistake.. LOL
Bloody cheat!!!
Not as much as Hamilton
dirty an cheat schumi....not a action for a great champ....
Hamilton and Vettel did that often. So what?
Hill is to be blamed for this crash
Schumacher itt aljas volt! Ki kellett volna zárni a világbajnokságból!
🐀que ma se puede decir 🇩🇪
@Tharus12 "only" XD
@guillexyg77 indeed
Disgraceful
@KaitainCPS Succinctly put...
@ston3s @sjsharp2007 , Schumacher got banned many times that year and really should have won like 4 races before that anyway. schumacher is the best, the fia didnt want michael that year.
"Cheating" probably isn't the appropriate word. It connotes a plan of some sort. This was a reaction. In the heat of the crisis, all he had time to think was that he absolutely had to stay in front of Hill. His move to accomplish that was reckless and should have been penalized as a violation, though. People say he was 'dirty' but in this instance, he was just competitive and desperate, all in the space of a few seconds.
the phrase "cheating" can apply to any action that is intended to dishonestly manufacture an outcome, it doesn't have to have a plan to do it. maradona's "hand of god" happened in the heat of the moment, would you say that wasn't cheating?
saying he was competitive and desperate, and then trying water the accusation of cheating down doesn't square.
what he did WAS cheating, and he cemented his reputation again in the championship deciding race just 3 seasons later, which thankfully worked against him, because of his past form. cheats don't need to plan in advance, they can cheat on call as and when they need to.
@@surebrec5113 We don't disagree. But, as you said, the word "cheating" *_can_* apply to any action...etc. My perspective was that, in this specific discussion, there's a nuanced difference between 'a cheater' versus someone who panicked, and reacted improperly, which then resulted in an advantage. The results are the same. The character of the person is different.
@@CentaurusRelax314 your perspective is wrong.
panicking is panicking, panicking and and then acting improperly to take your rival out is cheating. the option is always there to act properly, no matter the situation.
@@surebrec5113 By that strict, context-less definition, then every driver is guilty of "cheating," because they've all made bad decisions in a moment of reaction to something. You're also discounting psychology and situation altogether. Schumacher had time to process ONE thing in that moment-that he needed to be in front of Hill to win a championship that he had worked for all year. To be honest, from the first video perspective i watched, i held your viewpoint-that he was a dirty, calculated cheater. From the second two perspectives, the timing was so quick, and his car position wasn't so that he could see anything of value in his mirrors-the impulse to get back on track and stay ahead was all there was time for. That's not a matter of an 'option to act properly.' And i don't think that makes someone a "cheater" in isolation. If you're driving your hatchback to the market and swerve to avoid a tortoise on the road, and then subsequently hit a cyclist on the other side of the road, you didn't really have an 'option to act properly.' You reacted with negative consequence. Now, if you want to add up other 'deeds,' that's a different story. Either way, i do believe he should have been penalized and not won the championship. An advantage gotten by improper means should not have been 'rewarded.'
@@CentaurusRelax314 not every driver deliberately drove a title rival off at the defining moment of the season.
prost did it to senna in '89, and vice versa in '90. schumacher did it twice in '94 and '97. he also deliberately parked his car at the exit of the next to last corner of the track in monaco to preserve his pole position time, or was that another example of a "decision taken in the moment"?
he cheated. he fucked up by going off the track, he knew he had fucked up, he knew hill was right behind him and was going to take the place and potentially win the title. you don't need more than a split second to decide to cheat.
again, maradona's "hand of god".
furthermore, I need to add, it wasn't a split-second decision. after the impact, he had several seconds to come to the realisation that he'd fucked up.
Gilles Villeneuve continued his race on 3 wheels and Hill gives up for a broken suspension arm.
Damon had a lockup and I believe that his car skidded abit towards Michael's car
edd3749 Didn’t skid at all. Michael just turned in.
@@velocitaaa yes because he was in his racing line, and Hill was still further back, so what do expect?
@@mjuwildia9271 Hill was alongside and entitled to space at that point. He can't just disappear. So what do you expect?
Dangerous cheating that could have resulted in serious injury won out that year !
As it did in 1990.
Yeah, it's a dangerous move by Hill, Schumacher's car almost turned over!
@@mjuwildia9271 ...Plank !
Max will do it if he has to just like in any race but he’s learned enough to manage the risk better these days. He won’t wipe Lewis out just to win, it’s not a true enjoyable win if he does, although there may be an accident they can’t avoid, this will be race of the decade I hope 🤣👊🏼
He won’t wipe Lewis out….again. No one debates his skullduggery, they just say stop crying. Accept it. It is over. It really never will be. The way Schumacher will not be. Honor has to matter.
shumacher is a bad ass ! LOL
I still see Hill more at fault here. Wanted Hill to win so bad and was fuming in the day but he was never ahead and shoved it up the inside, what was he expecting, really wish he just waited for the straight.
Questionable manoeuver from Schumacher. But Hill was always a mediocre driver.
Hill was decent! Ralf (Michael's younger brother) however was indeed mediocre at best!
Agree completely. Hill did not deserve the title in 1994 regardless of what one may think of this exact incident. Schu was light years ahead of anyone.
Haha true, and when he took out Schumacher AGAIN in 95 his fans are silent
In sport, you only have to cheat once, to tarnish an entire career.
Damon Hill tuvo la culpa, Michael viene adelante y tiene la ventaja para tomar la curva, Hill le pega por detras. Culpa de Hil.
vettel looks like shumy, both are good drivers, but when they are under pressure, they lose control easily, shummy won 7 f-1 championship but never he have been champion when he was under pressure, 1997, 1998 2006, this accidente with hill was a shame to F-1,
Umm, 2000, 2003?
Schumacher pays a high price for his racing behavours now....
That has nothing to do...
Shumacher el piloto más sucio y antidepirtivo de la historia del automovilismo, llamese rallys, lemans, turismo, etc
This, the Villeneuve incident, the stopping in Monaco Qualily to stop others finishing the lap and the black flag in Silverstone are the reasons why Schumacher will never be one of the best drivers of all time imo.
Hill's fault, he shouldn't just dive further back not even alongside Schumacher, he could have waited for the next corner to make a move, poor judgment by Hill, like he did the next year when he took out Schumacher twice, but for those moments people are silent, wonder why
Sad day for formula 1. Dirty way to Win a championschip!