The 2022 Toyota GR86 is the Best Way to Start (or Improve) Performance Driving (POV Drive Review)
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Price (as tested) 💲: $31,750
Powertrain ⚙️: 2.4-liter Boxer 4-Cylinder
Output 💪: 228 hp/184 lb-ft of torque
Transmission 🕹: 6-speed Manual
0-60 MPH 🚦: 6.1 seconds
Top Speed 💥: 140 mph
MPG (as tested) ⛽️: 20 city/27 hwy/22 combined
Curb weight ⚖️: 2,833 lbs
Join Miles in the 2022 Toyota GR86 Manual in Halo White and Black Ultrasuede and Leather as he shares his expert driving impressions.
Options Equipped:
- Premium Trim ($2,600): 18-inch wheels and Michelin Pilot Sport 4 summer tires, larger rear spoiler, heated front seats, leather and faux-suede upholstery, 8-speaker sound system, blind spot monitoring with rear cross-traffic
- Halo White ($425)
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Interior Impressions (Front Seat): 03:00
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I'm buying a GR86 in 2 to 3 years. I've had an NA Miata. The Miata is hard to live with in a few ways. It is cramped inside. Soft top wind noise is extreme in the highways. It's so small that SUVs and trucks don't see you when they make a turn into your lane. The GR86 is a smallish car, but it is way better to live with than a Miata.
Best of luck on your journey 🤟
Just to warn you, the wind noise in the GR86 is just as bad as said by many reviewers/owners.
@@piercetm its better than a miata at least haha
@@ciello___8307 we will see lol
its is bad but nothing a good exhaust or sound system wont fix.
To those who sees this comment, Happy New Year, and I hope a better year for you awaits in which you will live your dreams and acheive your goals. Hopefully we can correct our mistakes, analyze what we did in the past and walk for the better path in the upcoming year. MilesPrHr, keep up ur content!
thanks bro
Buddy stop trying to win brownie points from strangers on the internet. We all know you're not actually this nice in real life 🤣
@@jimbo6612 quit projecting
@@davidgrantphelps1944 yeah he may not actually car but at the end of the day he’s tryna be positive? Why should we meet any positivity with negativity? There’s already so much negativity even if the positivity isn’t completely genuine I’d rather see positive messages then negative ones cause we could all use some positivity I think :)
@@davidgrantphelps1944 Lol I am not a Christian and hoping for internet points. Im just a regular guy hoping the best for everybody.
i own a 2020 wrx but am intrigued by the brz especially the simplicity and smaller lighter frame, the more squashed into the drivers seat the better for me
same here. really considering a trade in.
Owned both. I can confidently say I prefer the brz/frs by far
currently looking into changing my 2017 wrx but I feel like I can't get rid of the AWD it is just to good in the snow and I get lots of it for 4-5 months a year
@@shootstraight91 Then even I would reccomend for you to stick with the WRX or consider other AWD car options. The FRS isn't the best in the snow, I have driven it up to the mountains a multiple times and have always struggled around the snow due to it's light weight RWD
Thank for actually driving the car like it was intended. I felt the speed for a minute there!
I’m loving this thing lately! Just a simple sporty coupe not too much chrome and just basic I love it
I was honestly looking for this vid on your channel last night then I wake up to a pov uploaded, perfect timing
To me, the 86 is a kind of goldilocks car - Something like the Civic Si or a VW GTI would easily be more practical, but both are front-wheel drive. The MX-5 is an incredible driver's car, but for some, the wind noise for the soft top may not be desirable, and to say it's storage capacity is small would be an understatment. The 86 is a great compromise, though the best solution is to do what I did - Get the 86, then convince your partner to get the GTI.
I'd call that a pretty accurate description!
It’s interesting you mention the GTI. I have a 2019 GTI Rabbit MT, and I love it. Great to drive, and more than practical. However, it is no substitute for the unique, more “thrilling” driving feel of a RWD sports car. Before my GTI, I had an 2015 FRS and it was so much fun! But didn’t make sense for my household vehicles dynamic. In an ideal situation, I would totally get the new GR86. That’s not to say the GTI isn’t fun by any means though. Just a different kind of fun in a FWD😉👍🏼
@@davidbugarin Oh, absolutely. I find the thrill of the GTI is more in the raw torque the EA888 puts out, and even the admittedly muted turbo spool is something that never gets old. And for long trips, nothing beats it out - Quiet on the freeway with comfortable suspension means that you can go hours and hours without getting tired.
But for canyon carving or even spirited driving, the 86 is a more refined, controlled experience. The handling is just sublime, and it sits as a blank canvas - Enjoyable on its own, or with any of a number of aftermarket solutions depending on what you want to improve.
They both have their place and their time, and it's a blessing to have both in my garage. ;)
@@MilesPerHr Excellent review. 👍 I getting a BRZ later this year. Where was this video filmed, I like the scenery and curves.
Thank for the good quality video alway!!❤️
Great review. I just found your channel and really liked how relaxed and casually you talked about everything. I really want to get myself a GR86 in the future and thanks to you I'm now less sad that we in Europe won't be getting the new Nissan Z.
I'm glad you found the channel and enjoyed the video!
I finally ordered one and its the GR 86 10th Anniversary Edition in Solar Shift! I’m so excited. I’m not a very proficient in manual driving but I mustered the courage to learn more when I get it!
This video pushed me over the edge I want this car now
Thanks for the video, great in camera/road views. It was a lovely distraction from the daily grind. i own an '13 brz and i really love it. i havent found anything since that has made me want to get a new car...but if we were living in normal times i may consider just swapping it out for the newer version.
Glad you liked the video! Give this or the new BRZ a test drive and you might be convinced to upgrade
I want a used gt86; for me is enougth but im sure the gr86 is better of course!
This car has just been up’d a level. I call it the Dino treatment. They did the same with the Dino 206 going to the famous Dino 246. And similar again with the 944 going on to be the 944 S2, just making an already amazing recipe better with more torque and a little more bhp.
Ordered one , comes in 2023 ....can't wait
I’m interested to see what Mazda does to compete with this eventually. The nd2 made some good improvements over the nd1 as it stands
So I have read nothing but banner reviews about the BRZ / FRS / GR86 since they were released. I know there have been some changes over the last couple years to make them even better. One thing that crushes me though is that I haven’t ever been able to drive one. I guess I will just have to live vicariously through your epic walk around bru.
Why haven’t you been able to drive one? Have you gone to a dealership to test drive one?
@@kennymartinez8418 I just haven’t had the opportunity. I really need to just set a time and go to it specifically test one. I’ve gone out and looked, but haven’t had the opportunity to test drive one. No valid excuse though. I need to just go do it.
I'm glad you enjoyed my video! But you gotta schedule a test drive :)
@@MilesPerHr you are telling me! Maybe once the weather clears out in Utah!
@@P4SDetails I just went out for a drive in my GT86 and lost the rear a few times. Larry Miller Toyota has 3 GR’s in stock but they’re automatics so not interested in those.
My first car is a 22 Corolla but I hope to move on to a gr86 sometime in the future before 2030. This seems like such an awesome car!
It's really the feel of driving thanks
Thank you!
Great video
That GR 86 2022 is my dream car.
i just got the new brz, and i like the gr86 front end better, but the red brz interior is just so much better in every way
First time watching one of your videos. You actually drive the car, and for that you get a sub.
I appreciate that! Thanks for subbing.
probably best review I've seen so far 🤙
Thanks for the support!
Test drove one the other day and let me tell you, that gearbox is a joy lol, smooth as silk imo
I got dizzy from camera angel , hope u make it better, but love ur vids man keep it up
I am so in love with this car
Great review. Might have to get one. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I know about all the greatest sports cars and super cars out there and yet, I don't have a stronger desire than the one I have for the 86 ❤️
This is a true driver's car - it's worthy of the desire.
@@MilesPerHr Yes! I certainly got that vibe from your video! And thanks man! ✨ Keep up the good work! :o
I’m just happy with real air vents that aren’t just for show
Horn reminds me of my Miata’s horn. This is exactly how I’m gonna spec my 86
I’m glad it’s a little faster than the old one because the old one was too slow. I gapped one in my dads stock civic si with the 1.5t. Same hp by the extra torque blew it away
It looks like it moves pretty fast. Nice.
That’s probably a great beginners car for people learning to drive manual. It LIGHTS UP tryna tell you to change gear . Crazy’🤯! I loved my frs but def small! I had to get the wrx but sometimes miss being able to get in tight places 😎
They underrated the power this gen compared to last.
All the dynos coming out show the car makes 210whp which is probably closer to 240-250hp crank.
What dyno? Dynapack or mustang?
@@ValkenDnB a dyno test /
@@michaels4640 bruh
@@michaels4640 bruh
@@michaels4640 bruh
greetings from Germany
WE just get the the GR86
But better than nothing =)
good video
Always love your content mate . Happy New Year Guys .
Thank you, and Happy New Year!
I'm 16, this is definitely my semi realistic dream car!
That is 100% achievable. Just work as hard as you can and save. You could realistically buy that early 20s if nobody else helps you out.
You can do it bro. I got into cars when I was 16 and I had an old civic. I kept saving for the last 4.5 years and now I just turned 21 and I also receive delivery of my trueno blue premium GR86 manual.
very realistic, make a plan, give yourself a time frame, go out and get it.
best tip i have for you, even if you can, do not buy a sport car in the really 20's. You will do far more better investing this in safe stuff (not yolo) . Thank me later on that comment in 20 years.
@@Chabot1801 my counter, my wife and I want to have kids in 5-10 years. I don’t see my self having the chance to drive a 2 door sports car once they arrive. Definitely don’t spend all your saving on a car but I want to get a modestly fun car while I can.
Both Throttle House and Hagerty raced the new 86 with the ND2 and the 86 won both times. Just an FYI
Recently bought limited black line edition 2015 86😍
It's like the spirit of the Lotus Elise with the brains and scale of Toyota
Great review! 👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
I hate driving my friends around, I like sporty car, and its got an Fa24. Im in love
I need this car.
I got a 2018 civic Si recently and I gotta say, I love that car, it's the sedan, 1.5T 6spd manual, 205hp and 192torque, it's crazy fast in sport mode but also very controllable ( it's better to just experience it first hand ), and its an amazing daily driver with excellent power on demand when you gotta pass that pesky base model civic in the fast lane, and there's a ton of mods for the car. My choices were a BRZ ( got sold ): ) focus ST ( also sold ) and the civic Si which is what I got and it's the best purchase I've made in buying a car.
Should try a gold r stage 2 awd lol those are beast
your so cool bro love your vids✌
Thank you for the support! 🙏
great vid!
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it
It looks a very interesting entry level sport car. Nice review! What about the acceleration? Is it powerful at all the range?
The acceleration is good for this price point, but with this car (like the Miata), it's way more than a 0-60 car. It's a joy to drive at all speeds.
I currently have a 2020 MX-5 Club, and I put down a deposit for a GR86 yesterday. While the Miata is a great car, I just don't think I'm a convertible-type person. It was nice to try out, but not for me. I was actually trying to get a Camaro 2SS 1LE, as I've never had a V8 before and I wanted to try one out before they disappear, but my dealer submitted my order back in mid-November, and as of yet it hasn't been accepted by GM and the dealership has no idea when, or if, they'll get an allocation. The GR86 was my second choice because I briefly had a 2018 BRZ that I loved (before it was totaled in an accident), so I know I'll enjoy getting into the upgraded model. I'm actually keeping both the orders for the Camaro and the GR86 open, and I'll grab whichever car gets built first. Both these cars seem to be in such high demand that even if they both get built, I don't foresee the dealerships having any trouble selling whichever one I don't take.
I like it. But I'm too attached to my 13' Frs. I couldn't ever get rid of it
i flinch every time he drops his entire hand and arm on the shift knob.
“The changes they made to this rack are amazing!” 😂
this is s sports car that not only can teach the budding driver, but can allow the seasoned veteran to absolutely dice up far more powerful and expensive cars.
Went and got me a Cadillac CT5 2021. New and love it. My girl got the 86 in Neptune blue. This car is fun to drive. Sport mode just gives you that manual feel. Think better she went auto, a lot more rare and wider market for resell.
I have a 2019 Wrx and I’m honestly thinking of trading it in for one of these 😎
I CANNOT WAIT. GET MY RAVEN BLACK in a week or two.LFGGGG
How are the head gaskets on these new Subaru motors I wonder, otherwise this would be an instant buy for me.
if you plan on leaving it n/a, you’re fine.
If you want to boost it… good luck
This might have to be purchased
The driver seat is not one motion to move it forward because you don’t want to lose your seat setting when your just putting your jacket in the backseat.
Where do you drive in Texas? I don't know enough places here in the DFW area.
I was debating on trading in my 2019 for a Pavement Grey 2022… This video made me go out down the deposit now
I just wait 2 months 🙏🏼
i need to buy one
I’d love to get one of these but I just hate the exhaust sound. Not like my Miata is any better. It certainly looks more livable.
I just hate that i live in Texas where theres no twisty roads and its all about straight line speed if not i would buy one in a heartbeat
So the nissan Z is a better car overall. How much was it after markups?
Over 6000 miles in my '19 mx-5 rf and average 30.8mpg mostly city driving.
Love the flickability of the gr86. Did you hit those slides on track mode or traction off mode?
i would assume track mode off but even with tc on it can slide out in wet conditions or based on the camber of the road because of those 215s
the sound is simulated but it can be easily unplugged
That horn is what all Japanese cars sounded like before the 90s! Japanese classic!!! I’m 46 and remember those as new
Good context, thank you!
I pre ordered that exact one...Comes in next week can't wait! Great vid man
Congrats! I'm jealous - I wanted to keep this car so bad.
How much did you pay for it
@@lawnmower6591 Out the door 38k... It came with paint protection film package which was an additional 3k and sales tax was 3.8k
@@prodgez no markups??? I'm asking because I really want to get a car like this soon, but dealerships are being ridiculous right now.
@@lawnmower6591 none
Your thoughts on AT? Now a days automatic has gotten so much better.
What street is this? Looks great
Nice rev
Thanks!
im getting this car
Back end reminds me of 9th gen accord coupe
Looks really fun to drive
It was a blast!
Does it come with a LSD as standard in the US? In Europe it´s not on the market yet.
Great road, not busy. Where's it located?
Whats the best year for your buck with these cars? I think ive heard the 2016 ones werent too hot but the newer 2020+ ones are really nice. But i'm unsure and would like a consensus. Thanks :D
its really 2017+ are the nicer ones. anything past that is practically the same other than carplay in the headunit after like 2020 or something.
starting with the 2017 model year they did a slight refresh by retuning the suspension, 5 more hp, gear ratio, gauge cluster, and a few other things that you can look up. things like the gear ratio
if you plan on on doing a lot of aftermarket stuff or don't care for quality of life things, it's probably better for you to stick with the pre-2017 models as you might change oem parts that have been updated like the headunit or suspension. but getting something very close to new like a 2020 or 2021 is not worth it to me as it's basically the same as a 2017 other than the age of the car and the likelihood of less mileage on it. 2015 also gets some updated stuff on certain trims i think like the key and a backup camera i think. not so sure on this part though.
i would also avoid the 2013 model year as it is the first production year and there were a few recalls with some not so major issues but possibly annoying ones like "crickets" and taillight condensation. if the previous owner never had this fixed it could end up becoming your issue.
also don't forget about the trim levels. theres 2 main trim levels (there's some exclusive trim levels after 2015 that you might find interesting but are much pricier but are somewhat track ready if that interests you such as the series blue or hakone). premium is the lower trim and limited is the upper with lots of mostly quality of life upgrades like push to start/keyless entry, spoiiler, leather seats, and dual hvac.
i have not really heard any issues that are very year specific but i could be wrong. so i think best value is 2014-2015 brz with the limited trim.
this is all still my opinion from personal experience and reading other peoples thoughts on their specific setup so don't take it all as fact but i hope this helps.
@@lecrackin1687 thanks man! :D
edit: saw how much you put into that reply. tysm
The dashboard reminds me a lot of the mr2 spider
This looks like plenty of car for a 4 cyl price wise and handsome looking perfect young man car or enthusiast car and it’s Toyota good build honestly that’s a gift in the world where cars are going electric and boring they keeping things og with this .. taking us back to the days when they have you allot in a car for fair money I will be keeping a eye on this one ☝️
I really like the fatter look than the previous gen. What I don’t like is the piped in sounds.
Easy removal, either a cable to detach or dealership does on computer
Seems to be some lag in displaying the gear you are in when you shift.
santiago canyon?? anyways awesome review!
As someone who's short, does anyone know if you can raise and lower the seat?
I live in Texas and cant find a dealership that sells one! Where did you get yours???
I don't own any of the vehicles shown on my channel. These are all loans from the automakers.
Very comprehensive
Can you tell me if you noticed rev hang? Other reviewers have mentioned Rev Hang..
Nothing criminal, but yea there's a mild hang
I've been seeing a lot more good things about the 86 over the BRZ so I'd like to know which one is better
86’has dealer markup. BRZ doesn’t.
It's all going to be personal preference on the subtle styling differences and paint colors
Those wheels look amazing although they’re really narrow
This looks so much better than the Subaru BRZ. Nice.
I came here just to say that I always hated the old design with the overly sharp headlights and whatever the tail lights were supposed to be and think this new design is so much easier on the eyes and more luxurious
Topspeed of this new model??
11:36, it's funny to hear you talk about starting prices when here in Canada the 86 starts at $1,995 more than the BRZ... I hate that I had to love the 86's styling more than the BRZ's
I didn't realize that! Darn!
@@MilesPerHr Canadians are getting quite a deal on the BRZ. After currency conversion it comes to about $22,800 USD for the base BRZ.Of course they are sold out. About $25,500 for the one you tested.Phenominal deal. Your mountain road drive was exactly what this car is about. Total balance in this package.
Is this near or at the famed Santa Monica Mountains road?
How’s the suspension and road noise? Is it a comfortable ride?
Ride is firm, but not in a way that would get annoying. Road noise is pronounced. The seats are comfortable.
where was this video filmed?
5:09 I thought this man was cruising in Minecraft with that tree on the left of the road
I’ve never had a problem with my 2014 FR-S drifting on canyon roads at high speeds. Still have the original Primacy tires. Turn a sharp corner fast and it drifts like crazy, but that is the joy of having this car.
Hi!
What about stock brakes?
Missing the Brembo kit?
For the speeds you'll see with stock power, the stock brakes were just fine. Yea, add more power and you'll need an upgrade. Probably just pads though unless you're talking monstrous power
I think the opposite, as far as which package you should get (base or premium). Since it is rare to find this car without a bs markup right now, you're actually smarter getting the base package and upgrading from there.