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Erens founder is about 350m big if we trust the calculations And (just to be warned! Idk if this is goinf to be a spoiler) the third part will be two movies
So Ymir did indeed lead eren to that moment...also explains that Isayama didnt do any of this by coincidence. it was all intentional from the first episode. Remarkable!
@Silk Sonic massive manga spoiler Eren has never been the "one" Ymir was "waiting for". It was Mikasa. Ymir was waiting for someone to do what she never was able to do. Break free from the one she loved who only brought terror to the world, herself, her family etc.. She was obeying king Fritz and even sacrificed her life to save him. Mikasa on the other hand stopped simping for Eren and cut him down.
@@lordsaviorswarmthatwalks3385 thats just cap, Code Geass is full of deus ex machinas and stupid secondary characters, have some criteria of your own and not just repeat what some resented TH-camr said about AoT
i like how Luke has the same facial expressions as with zeke as the episode progresses. from a little calm to horrified and confused. haha. both of them literally cried when Grisha hugged zeke. deym, luke. thank you for you genuine reactions.
If you noticed, when Ymir first became a slave she looked at a couple getting married longingly. She looked at King Fritz in the same way when she saw him with other consorts/women. These two small things indicate that all Ymir wanted was love in her life, and Fritz was about the closest thing she had to that.
Eren: I only used you to get here. Zeke: I knew you’d betray me, but i’m the one with royal blood. Eren: Oni chan, did you forget? I’m the main character. Zeke: 👁️ 👄 👁️
I think Mr. Ksaver even told him that he needs to find someone who has the Founding Titan without royal blood and who agrees with his Euthanasia Plan. But that the Founding Titan will be in the control because Zeke is only the key... or do I remember it wrong?
58:10 You're right. Ymir was an ordinary resident of a village that was invaded by King Fritz (the first king), he took their village and made them slaves... so Ymir is not Eldian, she remained his slave because that's all she knew how to be, she lived her whole life in favors (as Frieda said at the beginning of the episode: "She's always thinking about other people because she's so kind") *Fun Fact:* this thing that came into contact with Ymir and gave her titan powers was inspired by a real creature, the name is *Hallucigenia* , it is an extinct creature that lived in the Cambrian Period approximately 505 million years ago
Actually the power Ymir got was not from a creature but from her Vow with a Devil , a literal Devil , the devil offer her a contract when she was on the edge of death said he will give her freedom but cost her freedom too
@@lazysean5418 no, that was the story from Marley's side, Marley didn't know how Ymir got these powers so they assumed she had made a contract with the demon of the earth. We just saw in episode 21 of season 4 where the power came from, and yes, it came from the creature
A small, but important correction: the Attack Titan holders can't "see the future", but can "see the memories of the future AT holders" and not all of them as well. This makes it slightly less broken in terms of power level, because it doesn't make them omniscient.
*Eren logic:* No people outside the walls, no enemies, no problem for Eldians. *Zeke logic:* Eldians have no children, no more eldians, no more problems for the world.
@@TequilaToothpick And as a watcher of the story, I absolutely believe that Eren and Zeke would come to the conclusions they each did. Both because of who they are, and because of their respective situations.
@@TequilaToothpick Eren‘s approach is evil because it (seems to) kills billions. But Zeke? His plan is not evil. What would be your solution? Let things continue like this?
- There is no time travel or time manipulation, and the Attack Titan doesn't need Royal Blood to use his power. - The inheritors of the Attack Titan can see the memories of their future inheritors. So Kruger could see the memories that Grisha and Eren wanted him to see, and Grisha was able to see the memories that Eren wanted him to see. - They were able to interact with Grisha because Zeke brought them both into Grisha's memory by using one of the Founding Titan's power. While they were visiting memories Eren was letting Grisha see his own memory of them visiting his memories, that's why Grisha was hearing Eren and seeing Zeke, he was seeing the future memories of Eren. - When Eren kissed Historia he saw his own future, through Grisha's memory of Eren's future memories, Eren saw himself give him that "pep-talk" in the cave. It's more of a time-loop if you will... what came first, the chicken or the egg ?
Yes. But Eren need royal blood to send his memories in the past. That's why he is the only Attack Titan to use this power in all of 2000 years of History. We suppose he just manipulated all the Attack Titans from the past. And that was only possible because of Sieg show him Grisha's memories. Because he was in contact with royal blood. But with Ymir, it's something else.
@@vincentvieille5996I don't think he does. The thing is - the ability of the titans which were before him - to see memories of Eren. It is believed that when Eren is speaking into mirror "fight, fight" earlier in the season he is sending the message to all attack titans before him, thus influencing them to be "attack titan that is fighting for freedom"
How are yall getting this 😅 I feel like he was just frustrated being that Frieda sitting there in they face telling them they all deserve to die for something they had nothing to do with and don't even remember, and now you wanna kill grisha? So eren was like fck that on your feet dad 😭 like I feel like his tone wasn't intended for grisha.
@@cjjackson2423 when eren had the 1 on 1 with zeke, eren told zeke he saw the memory of grisha squishing the royal family like bugs and was disgusted with him. How could Eren be disgusted with grisha killing the royal family including children when hes the one who pushed grisha to do it? Yes eren has differing views with frieda that makes him angry and is the reason his mom died, but hes even more infuriated with grisha who eren has seen sacrifice everything to get there and not be able to finish that task.
@Deadlion Yea disgusted in him for doing that. You said he was disgusted because he WASNT able to take the founder. Thats what I was disagreeing with. I didn't say anything about eren would be mad at him for killin the royal family. We all know he's the reason.
@Deadlion You said eren was disgusted with grisha for killing the family. That I agree with, but the 1st time you said he was disgusted cuz he didn't take the founder. I'm just disagreeing with that. That's it that's all.
In the context of Attack on Titan's realistically built world, Eren's rumbling holds a magnitude of biblical proportions. It's a truly epic moment because since the world building was so expertly and realistically told through Isayama's writing, the believability that this is probably the most historic moment in that world is astonishing.
Ep 20 is perfectly crafted when it comes to both writing and character development/exploration. Eren creating a predestination paradox is one of the greatest plot twists I've seen. Grisha and Zeke scene is increadible, makes me emotional every time I watch it. Both are one of the best things AoT has to offer, having them in one episode makes it my favorite ep of the entire show.
Greatest ep of tv show of all time ... The voice acting sent chills .. the music is unbelievably good ... The writing is beyond anything you will ever witness... What can u say more... Even the greatest novelist and writers and critiques agree to this . You can't beat this ... It's too good to be true
And what really makes this episode is all the hints throughout the ENTIRE SHOW, from literally the FIRST scene, all the way through to now. So many hints towards something bigger happening that we don't know about, and it really paid off even more than we expected
1. When Grisha said: "We were led by our memories--all for this moment", he meant all the attack titans. All attack titans were seeing Eren's memories. Because Eren is the attack titan that managed to reach the coordinate. Through the coordinate, Eren's memories were sent to his predecessors. That's why Eren Krüger said the words 'If you want to save Mikasa, Armin and everyone else....", the exact dialogue that our Eren would later hear from Grisha. Eren Kruger saw Eren's memories. (Edit: That does not mean that attack titan's abilities are only unlocked after reaching the coordinate. It is just an explanation that when Grisha said all of us were led by our memories for this moment, it means that all the attack titans at least saw the memories of Eren. Yes the coordinate thing may have nothing to do with attack titan's speciality. I am just saying that Eren reaching the coordinate helped him using his ability to his advantage by enabling him to send memories at will and influence the past.) 2. Why Grisha could see Eren and Zeke? Because Grisha himself being the attack titan could see the memories of future titan shifter (Eren). He was watching glimpses of future Eren's memories of the exact same scene. Which means in those memory glimpses, he saw things from Eren's POV. If you look at the scene where Grisha first time notices Zeke, his head was just lying on the table and he wasn't even looking there. But something made him realize suddenly that Zeke is in front of him. How? Because Grisha saw Zeke from Eren's POV who was standing just behind Grisha's back at that moment and looking towards Zeke. Same is the case with how Grisha could see Eren. Because he saw his own through Eren's POV. And realized that Eren is watching me from this position. 3. The dialogues that Eren told Grisha in the chappel are almost the same ones that Eren Kruger told to Grisha. Both Erens asked Grisha to stand up and fight. Both said: "you keep moving forward..even in death even after death. This is the story that you started." At that time too, Grisha was hesitating to take action and Eren Kruger had to convince him to do what is necessary. And then it's ironic that they repeatedly show different shots of Grisha's right hand, the hand from which, he grabbed his sister's hand and took her outside the walls of internment zone before Grisha goes on to harm that very same hand to tranform. 4. If you watch the ending of Season 2, you can see easter eggs pointing towards almost everything you saw in episode 21, including King Fritz forcing 3 daughters to eat Ymir's corpse. When that ending came out in 2016, this scene wasn't even revealed in the manga. So it was a huge foreshadowing.
Id also like to add that this therefore means that Grisha didnt actually hug Zeke because its two different timelines so Zeke wasnt actually there...but seeing future memories through erens eyes, he was there but in reality he would just be hugging the air
1. eh... questionable theory, because it relies on the attack titan needing to reach the coordinate to use it's ability, which just means the attack titan has a useless ability except for this one specific time
Yea I was gonna say 1 is kinda off. The future sight is the attack titans' own specific power. It doesn't need the founder to do so. Just how zekes roar works it's that specific Titans' special ability.
the reason grisha can "see" Eren and Zeke is because he has some access to Eren's memories of the very scenes we're watching. Eren Kruger also had access to future memories, which is why he knew of Mikasa and Armin
@@Smona kruger probably saw glimses, not entire scenes cause he only had the attack titan but the founding combined with the attack, now that's literal time travel
@@gray01216 Exactly, I think Eren might be the sole reason that ability even exists. Maybe if he hadn't unlocked the founder's full power the attack titan would never have had that future-memories-ability? Like what if it was just Eren arranging everything to be how he needed it to be for his plans
And its here, with these 2 episodes, that Attack on titan cemented itself as being one of the greatest works of fiction created. Its up there with the greats and will be very hard to top from here on out.
BTW, it's interesting that while Eren and Zeke were in the paths for a quite long time, for the "outside viewers" it all happened in less than a second. That's why you see how the time "stops" after Gabi blows Eren's head off. So it must've been a complete shock for her, as the very same moment she shoots, the rumbling instantly starts. 💀
Congratulations, now you have absolutely all the information from which you can build theories. You always didn't know something before, but after these episodes you know everything and you can analyze it.
The scene of wall's being destoryed and the founding titan appearance is literallly the best scene ever. The OST fits better then perfect. All emotions are running through, from those scene alone. And the consequences are crazy!
All this time the "Royal blood" was thought to be some magical thing but it was really just psychology. She had been so twisted psychologically that she obeyed those of the royal blood. It's hard for us to understand what that level of trauma can do to a person.
Wasn't really psychological though if you think about the ending of the Manga between Levi and Zeke. Why would that stop everything if somehow eren ended the psychological issue Ymir had, why was killing zeke so important wouldn't he no longer matter
Yes... But also kinda no? Realistically, she already disobeyed him by dying even though she could EASILY have stayed alive. At that point, there's no real loyalty or love there between them, and she knows that beyond a doubt. So, I think there is some kind of mystical property of sorts to the whole Royal Blood thing. THAT, or this is a real 8D Chess moment, and she understood after she died that for her to truly be free she needed to essentially become a slave to the royal bloodline once more. There's also the fact that she's back to herself as a child within the Paths, so it could be that she herself didn't even remember the moment of her death at that point because the version of her within the Paths just hadn't lived to that point, and so she is reverted into the royal bloodline's slave. There's a lot of potential explanations, and I feel like that was intentional.
@Colt yeah could just that version of her was just stuck there the moment it came in contact with the parasite and never actually experienced anything passed that point. But the entire royal bloodline thing still have some holes that need explaining, like was it still important passed this ep
Time to remember Eren talking to the mirror sending a "Tatakae" message to all his predecessors... Since the way Eren shares information with them is giving them access to his own memory, watching himself in the mirror was the ulterior way to show them his face, so they could see him as a third person pushing them to attack and never surrender... Never cease to pursuit the goal, no matter what! Tatakae! Tatakae! Tatakae!!!!!!
The biggest bombshell here is the episode title! Season 1 Episode 01: To You, in 2000 Years. Season 4 episode 21: From You, 2000 Years Ago. Other beautiful details: 1. 40:41 the number of fingers who blamed Ymir is 13 which is also the number of years a titan shifter can live. 2. 41:33 when Ymir fell after running, flower shows 9 petals which is also the number of 9 Titan shifters. 3. 47:23 the coordinate shows 3 paths at first to signify Maria, Rose, and Sina. After King Pritz commanded them to birth more subject of Ymir, 47:35 the paths increased in numbers.
I have never been so tense watching a video as I was watching this. Waiting for you to realize what is actually going on. This show is a legend for a reason.
Hearing Grisha tell Zeke that he has to stop Eren... dude, it gives me chills every single time! The voice acting in that scene is top tier. And I love how truly apocalyptic everything feels once the walls start to crumble. It really feels like the worst possible situation is unfolding right before our eyes, and looking at the monster Eren has become... how can we possibly stop him now?
Fun fact, in the first episode Eren has visions of the future and dismisses them as dreams. That episode is called "To you, in 2000 years". Episode 80, the second one in this video, is called "From you, 2000 years ago." Ymir has been a slave, spending countless eternities healing Eldians and forging titans by hand. One transformation is probably years for her, but everything happens in an instant for us. You could say that Ymir "created" Eren in order to save herself from her eternal slavery. Perhaps the Attack Titan was her way of overthrowing the Founding Titan who essentially has the power to command her to do whatever they wanted.
This makes me realize Ymir has the most tragic backstory of any character ive ever met in any anime. Its almost like she has never known happiness a day in her life. before becoming a slave u can see she lived in poverty
That why there is blood on one of the petals. Each petals are types of titan. The blood is from ymir who is a slave so the only reason the attack titan is there is to essentially free her
Eren was made by his mother and father, not Ymir. I think it's far-fetched. Rather, each of the Titans represents a part of Ymir's soul. And one of the nine has always aspired to freedom.
I believe Eren forged himself through the memories he sent to the other holders. By repeating "Fight" to the mirror he was influencing the decisions of the holders to end up to him in some sort of loop. However it is not that farfetch to believe that the essence of the Attack titan, with this ability to communicate to all his past version, was born from the desperate need of freedom Ymir wanted. I don't think she was aware of how thirsty for freedom she was until she disobeyed Fritz and let herself died.
God, your reactions are a celebration. I've never expected reactions like this, plus when I watch it together with you, I always get goosebumps, like I'm watching an episode for the first time. Thank you! Just imagine that all the Attack Titans for 2,000 years have seen Eren, Grisha, maybe Zeke in the future to move to this exact point. Grisha said that all the Attackers saw this point - the Attacker took away the power of the Titan Founder. Ymir wanted love, recognition, therefore she continued to serve Fritz + she was 12 years old. I feel so sorry for her ... How amazing Eren is: He is the main character - the main Hero - Anti-hero - now he is an antagonist and villain for the whole world ... This work is amazing . Now Zeke's plan looks less and less evil. Yes, euthanasia is also murder, but calm, without blood, and just the end of Eldia's mug. On March 3, an hour-long film is released (3 episodes together), and at the end of 2023, the last film is released (about 4 episodes). And this is the end...
"He is the main character - the main Hero - Anti-hero - now he is an antagonist and villain" Makes me think of the show name drop Kruger makes back at the end of season 3: "Shingeki no Kyojin"...the Attack Titan. The entire story, from beginning to end, is Eren's/the Attack Titan's story.
The thing about Attack Titan's power is its holder can send its memories to a past Attack Titan holder. So the reason Grisha was able to see Zeke and Eren is because Zeke and Eren were looking at Grisha's memories, which means Eren was forming his own memories of that happening, which he could then send to Grisha in the past. Grisha did not see Zeke or Eren, but rather Grisha had memories of how Zeke and Eren were snooping through his actual memories.
@@Navi405 he's not. In reality Griesha just hugging air but his eyes at that moment are seeing himself through Eren's POV and taking the chances to hugging Zeke apologizing and regretting. Like Virtual Reality.
20:13 at this moment, you've now discovered the atk titan's own special ability, each of the 9 titans can use multiple powers with some even being default for all like the heat generation from regenerating and even memory inherence, just that a titan specializing in a particular ability can take them to greater heights and for the atk titan who specializes in memory inherence it can even inherit memories of the future which is why the atk titan is known as the vanguard of the 9 titan, because it is ALWAYS. ONE. STEP. AHEAD 24:39 yes, grisha wasnt manipulating eren, it was eren manipulating grisha all along and most likely even owl the eldia restorationist spy FROM within marley's government too since he mentioned mikasa and armin's name 36:14 correct, eren maneuvered and navigated through some 4th dimension chess board here there manipulating the past from the future to steer the present to said future where he manipulates the past 46:30 ymir was never freed, she was enslaved both physically and mentally in an act of pillaging alongside the rest of the surviving members of her village and later scapegoated for an escaped pig, king fritz saying she is now free is his sardonic way of saying she can be hunted and killed as she is not his property anymore but during the hunt she ended up falling into a water hole inside a giant tree where she bonded with that shining centipede at the spine and ended up turning into the first titan however she is still mentally enslaved by the king so she abided his orders even down to sacrificing herself to save him, its why the ymir we see in the path/coordinates is still a young child despite maturing and even birthing 3 daughters already... because deep down inside herself, she's still the same enslaved village girl as she started as years ago yes king fritz did went and waged war with marley but no idea if marley is actually innocent and eldia instigated it or if they were already in a feud, not like it matters in the first place people keep saying to not categorize things in to just good and evil because its a very hard to just label anything as stark black or white in the series like both marley's and eldian's interpretations of the titan's origins is whatever is convenient; to marley ymir made a contract with a devil for power so she can selfishly enslaved other races and uplift her own and then to the eldian restorationist she is believed to be a savior, a messiah figure elevating culture and progressing humanity forward but neither of these is fully accurate since yes, she did both fighing wars to enslaving other races AND cultivating the land along with building society but under orders of the eldian king because she was his slave its just like what kenny said before he died; "we're all slaves to something"
Erens speech at the end gets me so excited for what's in store next!!! I've held off reading the manga because I want to go in blind with an unbiased palette.
Man this is now the third time i am watching this series and i still keep finding connections i hadn't picked up on before. I'm actually impressed how much Luke actually notices on his first watch through.
I think this is one of the best episodes of Attack On Titan, because we learn so much. E.G how much willpower Eren has: He even rips off his thumbs. And I think it's sweet when you're close to crying, that makes you so likeable and friendly. I don't see often someone whose reactions I like this much to watch!
@@Black37463 Yeah. The top anime betrayal of all time was Isayama pulling this over on us all. Erin Jaeger was alternate history Adolf Hitler the whole time, *and we loved him.* That brilliant, driven, charismatic, angry young man, propelled by his rage over the violence and injustice his people have suffered, and promising revenge, peace and safety ( through the extermination of every other race on Earth) feels so believably human because he was taken from life. Pure genius. Visceral, stone cold genius. --and how many innocent civilians has Armin killed because Erin told him to, and he trusted Erin more than his own conscience? Trust is a terrible vice.
That parasite that attached itself to Ymir was actually Hallucigenia, a Cambrian animal resembling that of a worm. Eren's Founding Titan form looks exactly like that worm which is very interesting
If you match all the moments when the attack titan wore that face, the one you see on Eren when he kicks Zeke out back to the paths with ymir. That is the key. Go back and look at every moment they wore that expression, and youll put it together. When he kissed historias hand, when the first time you could ever see Ymir's eyes, she wore the same expression. Also, your existential crisis face at the end was perfect haha.
When this episode dropped I spent days and days scouring the internet to try and figure out exactly the mechanics of how this episode happened. It's insane. I'd never seen "time travel" work like this ever in literature. I'm sure there are examples but I don't know any. This shit blew my fuckin mind.
the attack titans ability is to be able to see future holders' memories, in the scene where grisha was looking at zeke, eren was staring at zeke and grisha saw that through current eren, the whole reason grisha was able to see both eren and grisha at all was because of that ability being able to look into future holders memories
Thank you! This was such a wholesome experience watching you react to this episodes .The "Curse of Ymir" was quite glossed over but it was actually explained here. (13) Thirteen years after acquiring the power of the Titans, Ymir was shown to have died while thwarting an assassination attempt on King Fritz, but after dying/losing consciousness, she found herself in a mysterious, barren land, where the Coordinate is. Back at the real world in real time, King Fritz then forced his daughters to eat their mother's(Ymir's) corpse in an attempt to preserve the power of the Titans. This is why Titan-shifters inevitably die after 13 years because Ymir "technically" died 13 years after acquiring Titan power. It is really a curse, a curse saying that "Since Ymir(The FIrst Titan) died 13 years after acquiring Titan power, so should you who seeks Titan power. An explanation to why Ymir is NOT DEAD in the barren land where the Coordinate is, but Ymir is DEAD in the real world was because at the King's death bed, years after Ymir died in the real world, we could see that the Eldian King commanded his daughters to continuously reproduce, to have their children eat their spines upon their deaths and perpetuate this ritual from child to child so that Ymir's blood would not die out and Eldia could rule forever with its Titans. Ymir's power was eventually divided into the Nine Titans; and she continued to serve her descendants from that barren land, building them Titans whenever they invoked the power of the Titans. Hence, Ymir has not "technically" dead since her consciousness is still on THAT barren land where the Coordinate is.
I have read the manga, but when I saw those episodes animated I still got goosebumps edit: After you finish the second part of season 4, could you react to "Footsteps of Doom"? It's the OST that played when the walls were destroyed.
Eren's manipulation goes back much, MUCH further. Think, how did the Owl get the Attack Titan to give to Grisha? How did Eren KNOW he'd have it when he went to give it to Grisha? Eren must've manipulated the previous wielder to give it to the Owl when the time came. And how did he ensure the previous wielder had it by then? And so on, and so on to the first Attack Titan wielder. Eren literally must've used the Attack Titan's power to create all the circumstances leading to his birth and his eventual contact with Zeke. Every wielder guiding history through his manipulation with the knowledge of future events and the memories of previous wielders. He didn't just manipulate Zeke, or the Owl. After the first wielder was born, Eren would've had a hand in shaping all of history, including the fall of Wall Maria and every event in the story up to this point. Eren literally wrote all of Attack on Titan, every character death, he likely had some hand in causing. Now, I haven't read the manga, and this is only using information from these 2 episodes and all the episodes prior (nothing from future episodes), so someone more familiar with future events might theoretically correct me, but don't because spoilers, but when you do a re-watch, on here or in your own time, remember this. More than the Armored and Colossal reveal, more than Erwin's charge and the following choice, more than any action scene or plot twist in the story, THESE are the episodes I've been waiting for you to get to. This is where the questions are answered, where all the "what's happening" questions make sense. These are my favorite episodes in the series, both on the merits of their quality, and for the sheer mind boggling implications of it all. Isayama KNEW. Rewatch episode 1, he FUCKING KNEW, all the way back in 2013. That bit, where Eren and Grisha are staring into each other's eyes in his memories? That was there from the beginning. I have read early parts of the manga and seen the comparison to this scene, and it's there. Chapter 1, Grisha is seemingly staring off into the distance, and here we see what he was looking at. This show is batshit insane.
Eren did set it up for Grisha to escape, for Dina to become a titan and eventually eat his mother, giving him the motivation to become a scout to take revenge on titans. hard to say how much he manipulated past holders of the attack titan but for sure he set things to lead up to this point... Isayama is a Genius ill never stop saying it!
Season 2 Ending also, we see there the picture of Maria Rose and Sina eating Ymir's body but that Ed was released 2 years before manga reached this point, so basically with that Ed he spoiled even manga readers
@@nekobitan8313 yeah that was crazy also hange losing her eye in s1's second intro even though it happens in s3 part 2. isayama probably planned most of the story out before drawing it.
It was absolutely crazy reaching this moment after years of watching AOT and now it feels crazy again watching you finally reaching it as well! I can remember when you were first reacting to the openings and now you've just about watched all four seasons of the show! Thanks for all the awesome reactions. I'm looking forward to seeing you catch up with the rest of us before the new episode drops in March!
I am so happy you did this double episode. theese 2 episode are the ones that ties everything together, and my god they were well made. you might have been close to crying, but when Grisha told Zeke he was sorry and loved him, I was bawling my eyes out, and nearly did it again this time.
I wrote that comment for another reaction channel to explain what happened here. I share this with you: trust me, this is worth reading and ofc, without spoilers (also, there will not be any other explanation in the following episodes up until the end so...). Two thousand years ago, the titans were born from the powers of Ymir and in the previous episode, Zeke told us that she is a slave of the royal family for unknown reasons (at least for now). In this episode, Grisha tells us that the attack titan was created to fight the king's self-righteousness and that Frieda (the royal family) was unaware of it. In other words, Ymir would have created the attack titan behind the back of the royal family. We know that each primordial can see the memories of its predecessors (Porco seeing Marcel's memories or Armin with Bertholdt). But, in this episode, we learned that the attack titan has the power to read the memories of its future holders. This power, only Eren discovered it... When? How?. The response is simple: by mistake. When Eren kissed Historia's hand, he saw his father killing the royal family but he also saw his father chatting with Zeke and his future self. The power of the attack titan is not to see the future directly but simply to observe the memories of the next holder if this one accepts it. For example, at the end of the episode, Grisha does not see Zeke, he sees himself, facing Zeke, from Eren's point of view. You can see Eren as a camera where he can choose, whenever he wants, to share his current vision to his predecessors. Then, to "know" the future, he has to share his vision to the predecessors and then see in Grisha's memories what's going to happen. There can only be one future (obviously). So when Eren decided to share his memories, he writes history, and the future cannot change anymore, otherwise his memories could not be transmitted to others and history would change. It's fate. When Eren shows his memories, he transmits them to all his predecessors simultaneously. Now you know why Eren was saying "TATAKAE" in front of the mirror: he was actually sharing his memories and using the mirror so that his predecessors can see him. Try to imagine: the first person gets the attack titan two thousand years ago and sees Eren telling him "fight, if you don't fight, you can't win". Apart from this person, all those who inherited this titan thought they were seeing the memories of the first owner, when in fact, they were seeing the memories of the last owner of this titan. Exactly, Eren must be the last attack titan, because if there is a new one, he could share is memories to change history and that is not possible. To be precise, Grisha was also aware of the impact of the future on his time. When Eren shared his memories, by "mistake", he revealed the presence of Zeke. From this moment, Grisha start understanding the power of the attack titan. Another thing: Now, we know why Eren Kruger said "To save Mikasa, Armin, and everyone else, you must see it through.". In fact, everyone who had the attack titan knew they had to save Mikasa and Armin, but they didn't know it was future memories. -------> To be clear: the moment the attack titan was created by Ymir, the whole story was written and could not be changed. To understand how the story is written, you have to admit that the story is written from the end. Okay, so Eren wants freedom for him and his friends. When he thinks he got that freedom, he shares his memories and the past can't change. In fact: two thousand years of history has been written at that exact moment. Inevitably, we are going to the future that Eren saw, and no one can change a thing. If for example, Eren wanted to be a pizza maker (yeah...), the attack titan goal would not be to fight the king's self-righteousness with freedom, but with pizza and the history would have been different. That's because Eren wants freedom that every holder of the attack titan wanted freedom as well. Eren Kruger told us on the wall that Grisha was "chosen" to have the attack titan. In fact, this titan is transmitted each time to someone revolutionary. Indeed, if someone revolutionary has the attack titan, he will want to bequeath it to someone who shares his revolutionary ideas and that's how the titan has travelled through history to "fight" the royal line. It's funny to see that Zeke thought that Eren was being manipulated by his father, when we learn that Eren was manipulating two thousand years of history ^^. The story is actually a loop: Grisha steals the founding titan -> Grisha gives both titans to Eren -> Eren can attack Marley -> The can "kidnap" Zeke -> they can "touch" each other -> they can travel in Grisha's memory -> Eren can "contact" Grisha through memories and tell him to steal the founding titan -> ... (loop) This is the ultimate paradox of Attack on Titan. You can't find a beginning to the story except from the end. Another paradox: Eren ordered Grisha to spare Rod Reiss -> So he's going to look for his daughter (Historia) -> he will get killed by her -> She will become the new Queen of Eldia -> Eren will kiss her hand for the presentation of survey corps medals -> So he can look at his father's memories and see himself ordering to Grisha to spare Rod Reiss -> ... (loop) Here is my last point: When Zeke wanted to use his scream, Eren said "Wait!". At first sight, we can think that Eren hesitates and does not want to lose the people dear to him (Pixis for example). It's not that at all. Eren tells him to wait a second, so that Falco, his brother (Colt) and Gabi can arrive and do their dialogue. Once Zeke uses his scream, he orders Falco to "defend" Eren. That's what allows Eren's run. Also, without that little second, Gabi wouldn't be there and couldn't shoot Eren. Since Eren kissed Historia's hand, there are many details like that and I encourage you all to watch SNK again to find out more. Thanks you for reading this, it is always with great pleasure that I like to discuss this masterpiece that is SNK.
the attack titan's power is to se memories of other "users" however this ability shows random memories, they can be from the first to the last users. For eren to see all the memories of all the users he needed to be in contact with royal blood (he not only saw his future but also all those 2000 years since the first one. this means eren has "been in war" for 2000 years). For him to show his father some memories he needed to be in the cordinate and with acces to royal blood. also when grisha was talking to eren and zeke he couldnt see them, all the interaction was eren seen the scene, and then grisha seing the memory of the scene. Fun fact, chapter one was called "to you, 2000 years ago" and chapter 80 (the one you just seen) from you, in 2000 years. THAT IS FORSHADOWING
It can be hard to understand how Eren influenced his father. Grisha was receiving Eren's memories live, and was basically seeing himself in third person while hearing Eren's voice. That's only possible bc they're revisiting memories with the Founding's power. And also, Grisha can only "see" Zeke when he's in Eren's POV. They can't physically touch tho, he hugged the air
1.) 13 fingers point to Ymir to condemn her, and 13 years is the lifespan of a Great Titan. 2.) Ymir's blood fell on a flower with 9 petals, and her power was split among 9 Great Titans. 3.) The tree she saw represented Yggdrasil of Nordic mythology, and the water she fell into represented Urðarbrunnr, or the Well of Fate at the base of Yggdrasil. The 3 Norns (Nordic goddesses of fate, possibly represented by Ymir's 3 daughters?) used water from the well to make mud and coated Yggdrasil's roots to help it grow. Ymir uses water to make mud to create titans at the base of the "tree" of Paths, thereby helping expand/grow it. This "tree" of Paths connects all of the subjects of Ymir just as the World Tree Yggdrasil connects all of the worlds. 4.) Ymir built bridges, roads, and fields (like the Restorationists believed) and also waged war on Marley (just as they believed). Everyone was right and wrong. 5.) Ymir didn't heal because she lost the will to live just like how Reiner didn't heal at the beginning of the season when Eren attacked Liberia.
If you notice, each time Grisha notices Zeke, it's when Eren is looking at Zeke from behind Grisha, since they're both the Attack Titan and can see into their future memories 23:24 However, Eren cannot really see his future, for spoiler reasons :3
i like how episode 21 is titled " from you 2000 years ago " and Episode 1 of Season 1 is titled " to you 2000 years ago " ,plus whats even interesting is the fact that this clifhanger isn't the worst
Another information in these 2 episodes you might have not processed yet (and that's normal it's a lot to process!) is the reason why Grisha was able to see Zeke. It's simply because Eren was sending the memories of these precised moments in live so that Zeke and Grisha could interact. That's also why episode 21 showed you again the scene between Grisha and Zeke when Grisha is sorry to have been a bad father to Zeke. It's because in this scene you see Eren watching Zeke. If he would have not done it, Grisha could have not been able to see Zeke in that moment. You got the point? Tell me if it's not clear
Eren is like this: I saw 14,000,605 Futures and only one of them is victorious. The scene where Eren starts talking to his father really makes goosebumps go through body.
Ymir was put into slavery by King fritz. But since Ymir has known slavery her own life, she didn't even think about saving herself using the power. She wanted connection and she saw that in King fritz in a twisted way. Since the king acknowledged her, she felt that it was the connection she wanted.
This plot twist is what really solidified Attack on Titan as my number 1 anime of all time. It had always been sitting somewhere in my top 5 or 10, but this episode blew my mind. Attack on Titan has the best writing I’ve ever seen.
the way eren stares at mikasa telling him the scarf he gave her is warm in his memories is so heartbreaking to me. he cares so much for his friends and her, and all he has to show for it is mikasa wholly believing he hates her and having injured armin in their fight. it's so sad to see how their friendship has fallen apart, even more so since we're starting to see eren's side of things and how it's all gotten to this point.
it´s amazing how eren is such a good protagonist, and antagonist at the same time. The show really just shows how possibly everyone just is wrong at the end, the only thing that matters is which one you think makes it right. For ymir´s story, It is hard to say why exactly she acted the way she did, Most would say it was stockholm syndrom, being a kid which has always been acting on other peoples wishes, her gaining her powers could be pure coincidence, the plan of whatever the core of titan powers really is, Either way, i think her whole story was about how there was no humanity, without anyones eyes showing, being more animalistic, as it was in early times, eating things was considered to also transfer strength and life, it was more of a last hope for the first king, (also he was the king of eldia, essentially showing that marley while cruel, weren´t always full of shit) Anyways, great reaction, i´m hyped for the next episodes
The whole point of episode 21 was to show that Ymir, who some think it was a Goddess and others thought of her as an Devil, was just a girl, made a slave for her whole life, and beyond. She never knew love and nothing else but slavery, that's why the king Fritz said that ''she was free'' an ironically way to release her to be hunted and dead, but she returned even after receiving a power that could change the whole world, because she never had her own volition. All the stories said by Marleyans and Restourationist Eldians are true, she both made Eldia greater, and slaughered Marleyans, but nothing from her own will. The point in this is to show that her whole existence was cursed, by the Eldians, a King who used her, and even after her death, he made their daughters continuosly pass this power (the one power that was split in 3 after Ymir's death, and this one power was still divided, generation after generation untill it becomes the undivisible number 9, each one of this ''shards'' with one of the original titan's powers and characteristics) but the ones who did this to Ymir wasn't the Marleyans, but the Eldians and the royal blood, that she served for 2000 years, waiting for someone to release her. Both Eldians and Marleyans cursed each other in this war that began even before the titan's existence, both are equally wrong, and the message of the story is this cicle of hatred, wich is still 2000 years after.
45:56 yes it was king Fritz , he was hunting her like it's some sort of game and started using her after she gained power Even tho she has that much power , she doesn't have a will of her own , she is just a slave that does everything the king says , she was so broken that the idea of killing the king didn't even occur to her
Actually, as we see by eren getting through to her, she was just for whatever insane reason, willfully his slave, then again as comments have pointed out theres hints and such that she just wanted love, and the closest she gets to that is king fritz.
"This is a story that you started" is a callback to the scene between Eren Kruger and Grisha. Eren doesn't manipulate the past, there is only one timeline (the events we see here is what occured in the past). Zeke bringing him in the memories of the past is what allows Eren to show his father (through the Attack Titan's powers) his memory of that exact moment. At the moment Grisha sees Zeke and Eren he doesn't see them with his own eyes, he sees them through Eren's eyes. Which is brilliant. So technically, there is no time travel
Basically Eren holds attack titan can see the future and managed to manipulate grisha that also can see future Also being a titan shifter can see past holders
What it’s incredible is that when you see titans transformation is Ymir who create them as statues made of sand, in that instant using the infinite time of the coordinate. Now if you watch the endings you will notice a lot of hints of all of this.
When the first episode of the series i read it from 2000 years to now and i saw eren lying below the tree crying and having those flashback i knew it would have to do something with time travel
You couldn't have chosen a more perfect moment for the double episode. Now you got pretty much the full picture I think. I don't know if there will be any big reveals that recontextualize everything, but damn it will be interesting to see how everything that has been set up to this point will play out.
In Ymir's flashback you can see that something happens, and then Fritz asks "who did this thing? If no one confeses you all will lose one eye". Then everyone points to Ymir. He "frees" her from being his slave, and his soldiers chase her. Then she enters that big tree before getting murdered and gets the power of titans, so Fritz forgives her as long as she works to grow the Eldian Empire. Finally she sacrifices herself for king Fritz and their daughters (Ymir's and his) eat her to get the power of the titans and pass them on to future generations
LETS GOOOOOO RUMBLING BABYYYYYY Edit 1: loved the reaction to ep 20 fr it was great especially on the Grisha/Zeke scene Edit 2: holy shit!! I was so excited during the second reaction.. I was trembling and had that stupid smile on my face and tears of excitement on my eyes I have to say tho, there are many reaction channels BUT you are my favourite by far.. what a journey!
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Erens founder is about 350m big if we trust the calculations
And (just to be warned! Idk if this is goinf to be a spoiler)
the third part will be two movies
Code Geass
Fairy Tail ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤!!!! Please react to it
waiting for Steins;Gate
el ..psy.. congroo!
Demon Slayer or Tokyo Ghoul are very good anime to watch as the next anime. ^-^
Basically Eren is a manga reader while the rest of the characters are anime only watchers
You reminded me of a certain webtoon with the same plot, lmao
Eren had early access to the anime as well.
@@KARIAPomniscient reader’s viewpoint?
Isayama build Eren = no
Eren build Isayama = yes
@@Asmodeus_7Yes but there's also one that has the anime reader vs manga reader plot. Don't know what it was called though.
Episode 1: 'To you...2000 years from now' - call from Ymir to Eren.
Episode 80: 'From you....2000 years ago' - Eren's response
Props to Grisha's voice actor!! He totally owned the episode with his voice acting
Deserve to get Oscar
absolutely perfect voice acting.
I was thinking the same thing! Such a brillant perfomance!
couldn't agree more! I remember thinking in season 1 if we were ever going to get more out of his character and aot did not disappoint
@Silk Sonic Dude, you good???
Ep1: " to you, 2000 years from now"
Ep80: "from you, 2000 years ago"
SUCH A MASTERPIECE
So Ymir did indeed lead eren to that moment...also explains that Isayama didnt do any of this by coincidence. it was all intentional from the first episode. Remarkable!
@@theculturedgentleman3699 and still, this isnt the whole picture. The very end of the show will add another layer to that😅
But aint gonna say more.
was hoping someone would had mentioned to him to keep in mind the first episodes name
@Silk Sonic massive manga spoiler
Eren has never been the "one" Ymir was "waiting for". It was Mikasa. Ymir was waiting for someone to do what she never was able to do. Break free from the one she loved who only brought terror to the world, herself, her family etc.. She was obeying king Fritz and even sacrificed her life to save him. Mikasa on the other hand stopped simping for Eren and cut him down.
@Silk Sonic Eren led Isayama
These three episodes are just peak television, you can't get any better than this with the writing, twists, voice acting, animation. Peak Fiction!
code geass writing is miles ahead AoT
@@lordsaviorswarmthatwalks3385 i love code geass but aot is miles better written
@@sora4124 I think personally aot is a bit more enjoyable but code geass is a bit better written
@@lordsaviorswarmthatwalks3385 thats just cap, Code Geass is full of deus ex machinas and stupid secondary characters, have some criteria of your own and not just repeat what some resented TH-camr said about AoT
@@danielgwynne7266 code geass has lots of plot holes and random things introduced just to continue the series
i like how Luke has the same facial expressions as with zeke as the episode progresses. from a little calm to horrified and confused. haha. both of them literally cried when Grisha hugged zeke. deym, luke. thank you for you genuine reactions.
If you noticed, when Ymir first became a slave she looked at a couple getting married longingly. She looked at King Fritz in the same way when she saw him with other consorts/women. These two small things indicate that all Ymir wanted was love in her life, and Fritz was about the closest thing she had to that.
So that Fritz have queen or not?
I mean ymir is slave for him
This is also a phenomenon but i forgot its name, that u will do anything for someone whether he/she treats u harshly
@@joydeepsinha5463 the Stockholm syndrome
@@joydeepsinha5463 Stockholm syndrome
She was a slave to love
Eren: I only used you to get here.
Zeke: I knew you’d betray me, but i’m the one with royal blood.
Eren: Oni chan, did you forget? I’m the main character.
Zeke: 👁️ 👄 👁️
😂
I think Mr. Ksaver even told him that he needs to find someone who has the Founding Titan without royal blood and who agrees with his Euthanasia Plan. But that the Founding Titan will be in the control because Zeke is only the key...
or do I remember it wrong?
Zeke forgot that Eren is the one who hold the founder
58:10 You're right. Ymir was an ordinary resident of a village that was invaded by King Fritz (the first king), he took their village and made them slaves... so Ymir is not Eldian, she remained his slave because that's all she knew how to be, she lived her whole life in favors (as Frieda said at the beginning of the episode: "She's always thinking about other people because she's so kind")
*Fun Fact:* this thing that came into contact with Ymir and gave her titan powers was inspired by a real creature, the name is *Hallucigenia* , it is an extinct creature that lived in the Cambrian Period approximately 505 million years ago
It was also said that Ymir fell in love with the King....She was suffering from a bit of Stockholm syndrome I feel
No, this definitely isn't a hallucigenia.
The only similarity is that they both look worm-like.
Actually the power Ymir got was not from a creature but from her Vow with a Devil , a literal Devil , the devil offer her a contract when she was on the edge of death said he will give her freedom but cost her freedom too
@@lazysean5418 no, that was the story from Marley's side, Marley didn't know how Ymir got these powers so they assumed she had made a contract with the demon of the earth. We just saw in episode 21 of season 4 where the power came from, and yes, it came from the creature
@@lazysean5418 did you watch the episode
A small, but important correction: the Attack Titan holders can't "see the future", but can "see the memories of the future AT holders" and not all of them as well. This makes it slightly less broken in terms of power level, because it doesn't make them omniscient.
*Eren logic:* No people outside the walls, no enemies, no problem for Eldians.
*Zeke logic:* Eldians have no children, no more eldians, no more problems for the world.
isayama logic: both
Both plans are utterly deranged.
@@TequilaToothpick And as a watcher of the story, I absolutely believe that Eren and Zeke would come to the conclusions they each did.
Both because of who they are, and because of their respective situations.
@@carljohan9265 They make sense for their characters. Doesn't mean both are absolutely insane evil schemes.
@@TequilaToothpick Eren‘s approach is evil because it (seems to) kills billions. But Zeke? His plan is not evil. What would be your solution? Let things continue like this?
- There is no time travel or time manipulation, and the Attack Titan doesn't need Royal Blood to use his power.
- The inheritors of the Attack Titan can see the memories of their future inheritors. So Kruger could see the memories that Grisha and Eren wanted him to see, and Grisha was able to see the memories that Eren wanted him to see.
- They were able to interact with Grisha because Zeke brought them both into Grisha's memory by using one of the Founding Titan's power. While they were visiting memories Eren was letting Grisha see his own memory of them visiting his memories, that's why Grisha was hearing Eren and seeing Zeke, he was seeing the future memories of Eren.
- When Eren kissed Historia he saw his own future, through Grisha's memory of Eren's future memories, Eren saw himself give him that "pep-talk" in the cave.
It's more of a time-loop if you will... what came first, the chicken or the egg ?
Yes. But Eren need royal blood to send his memories in the past. That's why he is the only Attack Titan to use this power in all of 2000 years of History. We suppose he just manipulated all the Attack Titans from the past. And that was only possible because of Sieg show him Grisha's memories. Because he was in contact with royal blood. But with Ymir, it's something else.
@@vincentvieille5996 yeah he basically become a Bootstrap paradox with the royal blood.
@@vincentvieille5996 Yes I agree
Also Eren can't just see future because there's no future after him. So he has known that he would be the last attak titan ever.
@@vincentvieille5996I don't think he does. The thing is - the ability of the titans which were before him - to see memories of Eren. It is believed that when Eren is speaking into mirror "fight, fight" earlier in the season he is sending the message to all attack titans before him, thus influencing them to be "attack titan that is fighting for freedom"
24:14 yeah eren was disgusted with grisha because he wasn’t able to take the founder alone. It’s so sick it’s brilliant
How are yall getting this 😅 I feel like he was just frustrated being that Frieda sitting there in they face telling them they all deserve to die for something they had nothing to do with and don't even remember, and now you wanna kill grisha? So eren was like fck that on your feet dad 😭 like I feel like his tone wasn't intended for grisha.
@@cjjackson2423 when eren had the 1 on 1 with zeke, eren told zeke he saw the memory of grisha squishing the royal family like bugs and was disgusted with him. How could Eren be disgusted with grisha killing the royal family including children when hes the one who pushed grisha to do it? Yes eren has differing views with frieda that makes him angry and is the reason his mom died, but hes even more infuriated with grisha who eren has seen sacrifice everything to get there and not be able to finish that task.
@Deadlion Yea disgusted in him for doing that. You said he was disgusted because he WASNT able to take the founder. Thats what I was disagreeing with. I didn't say anything about eren would be mad at him for killin the royal family. We all know he's the reason.
@@cjjackson2423 eren made grisha kill the family so it doesn’t make sense for eren to be mad at grisha for that?
@Deadlion You said eren was disgusted with grisha for killing the family. That I agree with, but the 1st time you said he was disgusted cuz he didn't take the founder. I'm just disagreeing with that. That's it that's all.
Grisha's voice actor deserves an Oscar for his performance in episode 20.
In the context of Attack on Titan's realistically built world, Eren's rumbling holds a magnitude of biblical proportions. It's a truly epic moment because since the world building was so expertly and realistically told through Isayama's writing, the believability that this is probably the most historic moment in that world is astonishing.
Ep 20 is perfectly crafted when it comes to both writing and character development/exploration. Eren creating a predestination paradox is one of the greatest plot twists I've seen. Grisha and Zeke scene is increadible, makes me emotional every time I watch it. Both are one of the best things AoT has to offer, having them in one episode makes it my favorite ep of the entire show.
Greatest ep of tv show of all time ...
The voice acting sent chills .. the music is unbelievably good ... The writing is beyond anything you will ever witness...
What can u say more... Even the greatest novelist and writers and critiques agree to this . You can't beat this ... It's too good to be true
the name is Bootstrap paradox
And what really makes this episode is all the hints throughout the ENTIRE SHOW, from literally the FIRST scene, all the way through to now. So many hints towards something bigger happening that we don't know about, and it really paid off even more than we expected
1. When Grisha said: "We were led by our memories--all for this moment", he meant all the attack titans. All attack titans were seeing Eren's memories. Because Eren is the attack titan that managed to reach the coordinate. Through the coordinate, Eren's memories were sent to his predecessors. That's why Eren Krüger said the words 'If you want to save Mikasa, Armin and everyone else....", the exact dialogue that our Eren would later hear from Grisha. Eren Kruger saw Eren's memories. (Edit: That does not mean that attack titan's abilities are only unlocked after reaching the coordinate. It is just an explanation that when Grisha said all of us were led by our memories for this moment, it means that all the attack titans at least saw the memories of Eren. Yes the coordinate thing may have nothing to do with attack titan's speciality. I am just saying that Eren reaching the coordinate helped him using his ability to his advantage by enabling him to send memories at will and influence the past.)
2. Why Grisha could see Eren and Zeke? Because Grisha himself being the attack titan could see the memories of future titan shifter (Eren). He was watching glimpses of future Eren's memories of the exact same scene. Which means in those memory glimpses, he saw things from Eren's POV. If you look at the scene where Grisha first time notices Zeke, his head was just lying on the table and he wasn't even looking there. But something made him realize suddenly that Zeke is in front of him. How? Because Grisha saw Zeke from Eren's POV who was standing just behind Grisha's back at that moment and looking towards Zeke. Same is the case with how Grisha could see Eren. Because he saw his own through Eren's POV. And realized that Eren is watching me from this position.
3. The dialogues that Eren told Grisha in the chappel are almost the same ones that Eren Kruger told to Grisha. Both Erens asked Grisha to stand up and fight. Both said: "you keep moving forward..even in death even after death. This is the story that you started." At that time too, Grisha was hesitating to take action and Eren Kruger had to convince him to do what is necessary. And then it's ironic that they repeatedly show different shots of Grisha's right hand, the hand from which, he grabbed his sister's hand and took her outside the walls of internment zone before Grisha goes on to harm that very same hand to tranform.
4. If you watch the ending of Season 2, you can see easter eggs pointing towards almost everything you saw in episode 21, including King Fritz forcing 3 daughters to eat Ymir's corpse. When that ending came out in 2016, this scene wasn't even revealed in the manga. So it was a huge foreshadowing.
True! 👏
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Id also like to add that this therefore means that Grisha didnt actually hug Zeke because its two different timelines so Zeke wasnt actually there...but seeing future memories through erens eyes, he was there but in reality he would just be hugging the air
1. eh... questionable theory, because it relies on the attack titan needing to reach the coordinate to use it's ability, which just means the attack titan has a useless ability except for this one specific time
Yea I was gonna say 1 is kinda off. The future sight is the attack titans' own specific power. It doesn't need the founder to do so. Just how zekes roar works it's that specific Titans' special ability.
I love the part where Eren says "It's rumbling time" and rumbled all over the place
that sounds dirty.
idk why, but these type of Morbius jokes make me literally laugh out loud every time
🤣😭💀
Truly one of the anime moments of all time
He should rumble over me. 😳
i always get chills no matter how many times I see this scene
the reason grisha can "see" Eren and Zeke is because he has some access to Eren's memories of the very scenes we're watching. Eren Kruger also had access to future memories, which is why he knew of Mikasa and Armin
nevermind, it's explained within the very same episode
@@Smona kruger probably saw glimses, not entire scenes cause he only had the attack titan but the founding combined with the attack, now that's literal time travel
I guess that also comes with Eren, he showed him what Eren wanted him to see. Grisha also asked him "Why won't you show me everything?"
@@gray01216 the thing is will we learn what was that "something"
@@gray01216 Exactly, I think Eren might be the sole reason that ability even exists. Maybe if he hadn't unlocked the founder's full power the attack titan would never have had that future-memories-ability? Like what if it was just Eren arranging everything to be how he needed it to be for his plans
And its here, with these 2 episodes, that Attack on titan cemented itself as being one of the greatest works of fiction created. Its up there with the greats and will be very hard to top from here on out.
27:31 Luke crying and saying "I DON'T UNDERSTAND" is literally me every episode of the last season
BTW, it's interesting that while Eren and Zeke were in the paths for a quite long time, for the "outside viewers" it all happened in less than a second. That's why you see how the time "stops" after Gabi blows Eren's head off. So it must've been a complete shock for her, as the very same moment she shoots, the rumbling instantly starts. 💀
Not really. She's shocked because she took off the guy's head clean.
Congratulations, now you have absolutely all the information from which you can build theories. You always didn't know something before, but after these episodes you know everything and you can analyze it.
It's funny that my theory was helped by an anime that came out 17 years ago.
That scene with Eren and Mikasa at 11:35 was underappreciated.
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It shows that Eren still deeply cares for Mikasa
The scene of wall's being destoryed and the founding titan appearance is literallly the best scene ever. The OST fits better then perfect. All emotions are running through, from those scene alone. And the consequences are crazy!
All this time the "Royal blood" was thought to be some magical thing but it was really just psychology. She had been so twisted psychologically that she obeyed those of the royal blood. It's hard for us to understand what that level of trauma can do to a person.
Wasn't really psychological though if you think about the ending of the Manga between Levi and Zeke. Why would that stop everything if somehow eren ended the psychological issue Ymir had, why was killing zeke so important wouldn't he no longer matter
Yes... But also kinda no?
Realistically, she already disobeyed him by dying even though she could EASILY have stayed alive. At that point, there's no real loyalty or love there between them, and she knows that beyond a doubt. So, I think there is some kind of mystical property of sorts to the whole Royal Blood thing. THAT, or this is a real 8D Chess moment, and she understood after she died that for her to truly be free she needed to essentially become a slave to the royal bloodline once more.
There's also the fact that she's back to herself as a child within the Paths, so it could be that she herself didn't even remember the moment of her death at that point because the version of her within the Paths just hadn't lived to that point, and so she is reverted into the royal bloodline's slave.
There's a lot of potential explanations, and I feel like that was intentional.
@Colt yeah could just that version of her was just stuck there the moment it came in contact with the parasite and never actually experienced anything passed that point. But the entire royal bloodline thing still have some holes that need explaining, like was it still important passed this ep
@@GodLikeC i mean the "royal blood" is a plothole cus every subjesct of ymir is from her bloodline
@@j_official4138 yeah but not everyone are from the king's blood line
Time to remember Eren talking to the mirror sending a "Tatakae" message to all his predecessors...
Since the way Eren shares information with them is giving them access to his own memory, watching himself in the mirror was the ulterior way to show them his face, so they could see him as a third person pushing them to attack and never surrender... Never cease to pursuit the goal, no matter what!
Tatakae! Tatakae! Tatakae!!!!!!
The biggest bombshell here is the episode title!
Season 1 Episode 01: To You, in 2000 Years.
Season 4 episode 21: From You, 2000 Years Ago.
Other beautiful details:
1. 40:41 the number of fingers who blamed Ymir is 13 which is also the number of years a titan shifter can live.
2. 41:33 when Ymir fell after running, flower shows 9 petals which is also the number of 9 Titan shifters.
3. 47:23 the coordinate shows 3 paths at first to signify Maria, Rose, and Sina. After King Pritz commanded them to birth more subject of Ymir, 47:35 the paths increased in numbers.
That coordinate part! I just noticed here and now...It was just three at first but became like a tree over time (pun intended)
Titan shifter bro. Ability titan sounds weird 😭 and one of the 9 rose pedals had blood on it. Im assuming to represent her death? Or something.
@@cjjackson2423 a'ight, forgot what to call it during writing, haha
@@cjjackson2423 The 9th rose petal is the Attack Titan, whose hands are soaked in blood.
@@MrFelblood Why is it the attack titan?
I have never been so tense watching a video as I was watching this. Waiting for you to realize what is actually going on. This show is a legend for a reason.
Hearing Grisha tell Zeke that he has to stop Eren... dude, it gives me chills every single time! The voice acting in that scene is top tier. And I love how truly apocalyptic everything feels once the walls start to crumble. It really feels like the worst possible situation is unfolding right before our eyes, and looking at the monster Eren has become... how can we possibly stop him now?
Fun fact, in the first episode Eren has visions of the future and dismisses them as dreams. That episode is called "To you, in 2000 years". Episode 80, the second one in this video, is called "From you, 2000 years ago." Ymir has been a slave, spending countless eternities healing Eldians and forging titans by hand. One transformation is probably years for her, but everything happens in an instant for us. You could say that Ymir "created" Eren in order to save herself from her eternal slavery. Perhaps the Attack Titan was her way of overthrowing the Founding Titan who essentially has the power to command her to do whatever they wanted.
This makes me realize Ymir has the most tragic backstory of any character ive ever met in any anime. Its almost like she has never known happiness a day in her life. before becoming a slave u can see she lived in poverty
Yeah, maybe she's also the reason that Eren was so purpose-driven. Or maybe not, who knows
That why there is blood on one of the petals. Each petals are types of titan. The blood is from ymir who is a slave so the only reason the attack titan is there is to essentially free her
Eren was made by his mother and father, not Ymir. I think it's far-fetched.
Rather, each of the Titans represents a part of Ymir's soul. And one of the nine has always aspired to freedom.
I believe Eren forged himself through the memories he sent to the other holders. By repeating "Fight" to the mirror he was influencing the decisions of the holders to end up to him in some sort of loop. However it is not that farfetch to believe that the essence of the Attack titan, with this ability to communicate to all his past version, was born from the desperate need of freedom Ymir wanted. I don't think she was aware of how thirsty for freedom she was until she disobeyed Fritz and let herself died.
God, your reactions are a celebration. I've never expected reactions like this, plus when I watch it together with you, I always get goosebumps, like I'm watching an episode for the first time. Thank you! Just imagine that all the Attack Titans for 2,000 years have seen Eren, Grisha, maybe Zeke in the future to move to this exact point. Grisha said that all the Attackers saw this point - the Attacker took away the power of the Titan Founder. Ymir wanted love, recognition, therefore she continued to serve Fritz + she was 12 years old. I feel so sorry for her ... How amazing Eren is: He is the main character - the main Hero - Anti-hero - now he is an antagonist and villain for the whole world ... This work is amazing . Now Zeke's plan looks less and less evil. Yes, euthanasia is also murder, but calm, without blood, and just the end of Eldia's mug. On March 3, an hour-long film is released (3 episodes together), and at the end of 2023, the last film is released (about 4 episodes). And this is the end...
"He is the main character - the main Hero - Anti-hero - now he is an antagonist and villain"
Makes me think of the show name drop Kruger makes back at the end of season 3: "Shingeki no Kyojin"...the Attack Titan. The entire story, from beginning to end, is Eren's/the Attack Titan's story.
@@andrewwhite6373 true After all, the name of the manga "shingeki no kyojin" is translated as "Attack Titan"
The thing about Attack Titan's power is its holder can send its memories to a past Attack Titan holder. So the reason Grisha was able to see Zeke and Eren is because Zeke and Eren were looking at Grisha's memories, which means Eren was forming his own memories of that happening, which he could then send to Grisha in the past. Grisha did not see Zeke or Eren, but rather Grisha had memories of how Zeke and Eren were snooping through his actual memories.
@@Navi405 he's not. In reality Griesha just hugging air but his eyes at that moment are seeing himself through Eren's POV and taking the chances to hugging Zeke apologizing and regretting. Like Virtual Reality.
20:13 at this moment, you've now discovered the atk titan's own special ability, each of the 9 titans can use multiple powers with some even being default for all like the heat generation from regenerating and even memory inherence, just that a titan specializing in a particular ability can take them to greater heights and for the atk titan who specializes in memory inherence it can even inherit memories of the future which is why the atk titan is known as the vanguard of the 9 titan, because it is ALWAYS. ONE. STEP. AHEAD
24:39 yes, grisha wasnt manipulating eren, it was eren manipulating grisha all along and most likely even owl the eldia restorationist spy FROM within marley's government too since he mentioned mikasa and armin's name
36:14 correct, eren maneuvered and navigated through some 4th dimension chess board here there manipulating the past from the future to steer the present to said future where he manipulates the past
46:30 ymir was never freed, she was enslaved both physically and mentally in an act of pillaging alongside the rest of the surviving members of her village and later scapegoated for an escaped pig, king fritz saying she is now free is his sardonic way of saying she can be hunted and killed as she is not his property anymore but during the hunt she ended up falling into a water hole inside a giant tree where she bonded with that shining centipede at the spine and ended up turning into the first titan
however she is still mentally enslaved by the king so she abided his orders even down to sacrificing herself to save him, its why the ymir we see in the path/coordinates is still a young child despite maturing and even birthing 3 daughters already... because deep down inside herself, she's still the same enslaved village girl as she started as years ago
yes king fritz did went and waged war with marley but no idea if marley is actually innocent and eldia instigated it or if they were already in a feud, not like it matters in the first place
people keep saying to not categorize things in to just good and evil because its a very hard to just label anything as stark black or white in the series like both marley's and eldian's interpretations of the titan's origins is whatever is convenient; to marley ymir made a contract with a devil for power so she can selfishly enslaved other races and uplift her own and then to the eldian restorationist she is believed to be a savior, a messiah figure elevating culture and progressing humanity forward but neither of these is fully accurate since yes, she did both fighing wars to enslaving other races AND cultivating the land along with building society but under orders of the eldian king because she was his slave
its just like what kenny said before he died; "we're all slaves to something"
I like how you're answering each of Luke's questions as you watch the video 😂
@@ashersanjan125 i wouldnt remember it all if i had to wait until i finish watching in an hour after all
@@YukiFubuki. Fairs fairs. I also wanted to do something similar, but you do your thing G. We're here to support newbies 💪🏼
eren manipulated all his predecessors man, dude even decided the owl's pizza options. WITH PINEAPPLE
Ones saw her as a devil and the other ones saw her as a saviour. But she was not either of that. She was just a human. Like eren told her.
Erens speech at the end gets me so excited for what's in store next!!! I've held off reading the manga because I want to go in blind with an unbiased palette.
I remember that I laughed hard in one of the first episodes when you said that "Eren is a hero, he just wants to save people" hahaha haha
Zeke face during the whol ep 20:😧
Man this is now the third time i am watching this series and i still keep finding connections i hadn't picked up on before. I'm actually impressed how much Luke actually notices on his first watch through.
I think this is one of the best episodes of Attack On Titan, because we learn so much. E.G how much willpower Eren has: He even rips off his thumbs. And I think it's sweet when you're close to crying, that makes you so likeable and friendly. I don't see often someone whose reactions I like this much to watch!
55:47 - 56:43
eren's speech gives me chills everytime, ERERY FKIN TIME!! 🔥
Hitler speech at the Reichstag vibes 💀
@@Black37463 lmao 💀
@@Black37463 Yeah. The top anime betrayal of all time was Isayama pulling this over on us all. Erin Jaeger was alternate history Adolf Hitler the whole time, *and we loved him.* That brilliant, driven, charismatic, angry young man, propelled by his rage over the violence and injustice his people have suffered, and promising revenge, peace and safety ( through the extermination of every other race on Earth) feels so believably human because he was taken from life. Pure genius. Visceral, stone cold genius.
--and how many innocent civilians has Armin killed because Erin told him to, and he trusted Erin more than his own conscience? Trust is a terrible vice.
love how bro actually teared up at 27:09 like zeke and grisha 💪🏼
That parasite that attached itself to Ymir was actually Hallucigenia, a Cambrian animal resembling that of a worm. Eren's Founding Titan form looks exactly like that worm which is very interesting
If you match all the moments when the attack titan wore that face, the one you see on Eren when he kicks Zeke out back to the paths with ymir. That is the key. Go back and look at every moment they wore that expression, and youll put it together. When he kissed historias hand, when the first time you could ever see Ymir's eyes, she wore the same expression. Also, your existential crisis face at the end was perfect haha.
You remember the episode one title?
To you , in 2000 years - the fall of Shiganshina
if u look closer,
the first ep name was: 'to u, in 2000 years'
then this ep title was: 'from u, 2000 years ago'
i like how you get so into it you got teary eyed at grisha apologizing to zeke for being a bad father to him
Two of the greatest episodes of anything I've ever watched. This really solidified AOT as a masterclass of writing. I love this show so much.
eren, what he could do for his people and friends is literally so horrific and at the same time it shows how much he cares abt them
When this episode dropped I spent days and days scouring the internet to try and figure out exactly the mechanics of how this episode happened. It's insane. I'd never seen "time travel" work like this ever in literature. I'm sure there are examples but I don't know any. This shit blew my fuckin mind.
the attack titans ability is to be able to see future holders' memories, in the scene where grisha was looking at zeke, eren was staring at zeke and grisha saw that through current eren, the whole reason grisha was able to see both eren and grisha at all was because of that ability being able to look into future holders memories
Erens Speech always brings Chills to my spine. It's a Modern day Masterpiece.
One of the great plot twists in anime history.
Remember in S3 part 1 when u were sceptical how Rod Reiss was the only survivor? Well this is how. Only so that Eren can receive the memories from him
Eren being the one behind everything is such a well written plot twist.
Thank you! This was such a wholesome experience watching you react to this episodes .The "Curse of Ymir" was quite glossed over but it was actually explained here.
(13) Thirteen years after acquiring the power of the Titans, Ymir was shown to have died while thwarting an assassination attempt on King Fritz, but after dying/losing consciousness, she found herself in a mysterious, barren land, where the Coordinate is. Back at the real world in real time, King Fritz then forced his daughters to eat their mother's(Ymir's) corpse in an attempt to preserve the power of the Titans. This is why Titan-shifters inevitably die after 13 years because Ymir "technically" died 13 years after acquiring Titan power. It is really a curse, a curse saying that "Since Ymir(The FIrst Titan) died 13 years after acquiring Titan power, so should you who seeks Titan power.
An explanation to why Ymir is NOT DEAD in the barren land where the Coordinate is, but Ymir is DEAD in the real world was because at the King's death bed, years after Ymir died in the real world, we could see that the Eldian King commanded his daughters to continuously reproduce, to have their children eat their spines upon their deaths and perpetuate this ritual from child to child so that Ymir's blood would not die out and Eldia could rule forever with its Titans.
Ymir's power was eventually divided into the Nine Titans; and she continued to serve her descendants from that barren land, building them Titans whenever they invoked the power of the Titans. Hence, Ymir has not "technically" dead since her consciousness is still on THAT barren land where the Coordinate is.
"Conflicted" is really the word for Season 4 haha
I have read the manga, but when I saw those episodes animated I still got goosebumps
edit: After you finish the second part of season 4, could you react to "Footsteps of Doom"? It's the OST that played when the walls were destroyed.
cant wait to see how last chapters animated 😩
Man mappa outdid themselves.. when it comes to emotional scenes with less action ... Mappa delivered SOOO hard ... Omfg .
Eren's manipulation goes back much, MUCH further. Think, how did the Owl get the Attack Titan to give to Grisha? How did Eren KNOW he'd have it when he went to give it to Grisha? Eren must've manipulated the previous wielder to give it to the Owl when the time came. And how did he ensure the previous wielder had it by then? And so on, and so on to the first Attack Titan wielder. Eren literally must've used the Attack Titan's power to create all the circumstances leading to his birth and his eventual contact with Zeke. Every wielder guiding history through his manipulation with the knowledge of future events and the memories of previous wielders. He didn't just manipulate Zeke, or the Owl. After the first wielder was born, Eren would've had a hand in shaping all of history, including the fall of Wall Maria and every event in the story up to this point. Eren literally wrote all of Attack on Titan, every character death, he likely had some hand in causing. Now, I haven't read the manga, and this is only using information from these 2 episodes and all the episodes prior (nothing from future episodes), so someone more familiar with future events might theoretically correct me, but don't because spoilers, but when you do a re-watch, on here or in your own time, remember this.
More than the Armored and Colossal reveal, more than Erwin's charge and the following choice, more than any action scene or plot twist in the story, THESE are the episodes I've been waiting for you to get to. This is where the questions are answered, where all the "what's happening" questions make sense. These are my favorite episodes in the series, both on the merits of their quality, and for the sheer mind boggling implications of it all. Isayama KNEW. Rewatch episode 1, he FUCKING KNEW, all the way back in 2013. That bit, where Eren and Grisha are staring into each other's eyes in his memories? That was there from the beginning. I have read early parts of the manga and seen the comparison to this scene, and it's there. Chapter 1, Grisha is seemingly staring off into the distance, and here we see what he was looking at.
This show is batshit insane.
Eren did set it up for Grisha to escape, for Dina to become a titan and eventually eat his mother, giving him the motivation to become a scout to take revenge on titans. hard to say how much he manipulated past holders of the attack titan but for sure he set things to lead up to this point...
Isayama is a Genius ill never stop saying it!
Eren is basically a Bootstrap paradox, creating the story withing Ymir
Season 2 Ending also, we see there the picture of Maria Rose and Sina eating Ymir's body but that Ed was released 2 years before manga reached this point, so basically with that Ed he spoiled even manga readers
@@nekobitan8313 yeah that was crazy also hange losing her eye in s1's second intro even though it happens in s3 part 2. isayama probably planned most of the story out before drawing it.
Owl just saw Grisha's memories, we were never told that Eren contacted him.
It was absolutely crazy reaching this moment after years of watching AOT and now it feels crazy again watching you finally reaching it as well! I can remember when you were first reacting to the openings and now you've just about watched all four seasons of the show!
Thanks for all the awesome reactions. I'm looking forward to seeing you catch up with the rest of us before the new episode drops in March!
Zeke thought Eren was the key but it turns out he was the basement all along.
I am so happy you did this double episode. theese 2 episode are the ones that ties everything together, and my god they were well made.
you might have been close to crying, but when Grisha told Zeke he was sorry and loved him, I was bawling my eyes out, and nearly did it again this time.
I wrote that comment for another reaction channel to explain what happened here. I share this with you: trust me, this is worth reading and ofc, without spoilers (also, there will not be any other explanation in the following episodes up until the end so...).
Two thousand years ago, the titans were born from the powers of Ymir and in the previous episode, Zeke told us that she is a slave of the royal family for unknown reasons (at least for now). In this episode, Grisha tells us that the attack titan was created to fight the king's self-righteousness and that Frieda (the royal family) was unaware of it. In other words, Ymir would have created the attack titan behind the back of the royal family.
We know that each primordial can see the memories of its predecessors (Porco seeing Marcel's memories or Armin with Bertholdt). But, in this episode, we learned that the attack titan has the power to read the memories of its future holders. This power, only Eren discovered it... When? How?. The response is simple: by mistake. When Eren kissed Historia's hand, he saw his father killing the royal family but he also saw his father chatting with Zeke and his future self.
The power of the attack titan is not to see the future directly but simply to observe the memories of the next holder if this one accepts it. For example, at the end of the episode, Grisha does not see Zeke, he sees himself, facing Zeke, from Eren's point of view. You can see Eren as a camera where he can choose, whenever he wants, to share his current vision to his predecessors. Then, to "know" the future, he has to share his vision to the predecessors and then see in Grisha's memories what's going to happen.
There can only be one future (obviously). So when Eren decided to share his memories, he writes history, and the future cannot change anymore, otherwise his memories could not be transmitted to others and history would change. It's fate.
When Eren shows his memories, he transmits them to all his predecessors simultaneously. Now you know why Eren was saying "TATAKAE" in front of the mirror: he was actually sharing his memories and using the mirror so that his predecessors can see him.
Try to imagine: the first person gets the attack titan two thousand years ago and sees Eren telling him "fight, if you don't fight, you can't win". Apart from this person, all those who inherited this titan thought they were seeing the memories of the first owner, when in fact, they were seeing the memories of the last owner of this titan.
Exactly, Eren must be the last attack titan, because if there is a new one, he could share is memories to change history and that is not possible.
To be precise, Grisha was also aware of the impact of the future on his time. When Eren shared his memories, by "mistake", he revealed the presence of Zeke. From this moment, Grisha start understanding the power of the attack titan.
Another thing: Now, we know why Eren Kruger said "To save Mikasa, Armin, and everyone else, you must see it through.". In fact, everyone who had the attack titan knew they had to save Mikasa and Armin, but they didn't know it was future memories.
-------> To be clear: the moment the attack titan was created by Ymir, the whole story was written and could not be changed. To understand how the story is written, you have to admit that the story is written from the end.
Okay, so Eren wants freedom for him and his friends. When he thinks he got that freedom, he shares his memories and the past can't change. In fact: two thousand years of history has been written at that exact moment. Inevitably, we are going to the future that Eren saw, and no one can change a thing.
If for example, Eren wanted to be a pizza maker (yeah...), the attack titan goal would not be to fight the king's self-righteousness with freedom, but with pizza and the history would have been different. That's because Eren wants freedom that every holder of the attack titan wanted freedom as well.
Eren Kruger told us on the wall that Grisha was "chosen" to have the attack titan. In fact, this titan is transmitted each time to someone revolutionary. Indeed, if someone revolutionary has the attack titan, he will want to bequeath it to someone who shares his revolutionary ideas and that's how the titan has travelled through history to "fight" the royal line.
It's funny to see that Zeke thought that Eren was being manipulated by his father, when we learn that Eren was manipulating two thousand years of history ^^.
The story is actually a loop:
Grisha steals the founding titan -> Grisha gives both titans to Eren -> Eren can attack Marley -> The can "kidnap" Zeke -> they can "touch" each other -> they can travel in Grisha's memory -> Eren can "contact" Grisha through memories and tell him to steal the founding titan -> ... (loop)
This is the ultimate paradox of Attack on Titan. You can't find a beginning to the story except from the end.
Another paradox:
Eren ordered Grisha to spare Rod Reiss -> So he's going to look for his daughter (Historia) -> he will get killed by her -> She will become the new Queen of Eldia -> Eren will kiss her hand for the presentation of survey corps medals -> So he can look at his father's memories and see himself ordering to Grisha to spare Rod Reiss -> ... (loop)
Here is my last point:
When Zeke wanted to use his scream, Eren said "Wait!". At first sight, we can think that Eren hesitates and does not want to lose the people dear to him (Pixis for example). It's not that at all. Eren tells him to wait a second, so that Falco, his brother (Colt) and Gabi can arrive and do their dialogue. Once Zeke uses his scream, he orders Falco to "defend" Eren. That's what allows Eren's run. Also, without that little second, Gabi wouldn't be there and couldn't shoot Eren.
Since Eren kissed Historia's hand, there are many details like that and I encourage you all to watch SNK again to find out more.
Thanks you for reading this, it is always with great pleasure that I like to discuss this masterpiece that is SNK.
the attack titan's power is to se memories of other "users" however this ability shows random memories, they can be from the first to the last users. For eren to see all the memories of all the users he needed to be in contact with royal blood (he not only saw his future but also all those 2000 years since the first one. this means eren has "been in war" for 2000 years). For him to show his father some memories he needed to be in the cordinate and with acces to royal blood. also when grisha was talking to eren and zeke he couldnt see them, all the interaction was eren seen the scene, and then grisha seing the memory of the scene.
Fun fact, chapter one was called "to you, 2000 years ago" and chapter 80 (the one you just seen) from you, in 2000 years. THAT IS FORSHADOWING
It can be hard to understand how Eren influenced his father. Grisha was receiving Eren's memories live, and was basically seeing himself in third person while hearing Eren's voice. That's only possible bc they're revisiting memories with the Founding's power. And also, Grisha can only "see" Zeke when he's in Eren's POV. They can't physically touch tho, he hugged the air
1.) 13 fingers point to Ymir to condemn her, and 13 years is the lifespan of a Great Titan.
2.) Ymir's blood fell on a flower with 9 petals, and her power was split among 9 Great Titans.
3.) The tree she saw represented Yggdrasil of Nordic mythology, and the water she fell into represented Urðarbrunnr, or the Well of Fate at the base of Yggdrasil. The 3 Norns (Nordic goddesses of fate, possibly represented by Ymir's 3 daughters?) used water from the well to make mud and coated Yggdrasil's roots to help it grow. Ymir uses water to make mud to create titans at the base of the "tree" of Paths, thereby helping expand/grow it. This "tree" of Paths connects all of the subjects of Ymir just as the World Tree Yggdrasil connects all of the worlds.
4.) Ymir built bridges, roads, and fields (like the Restorationists believed) and also waged war on Marley (just as they believed). Everyone was right and wrong.
5.) Ymir didn't heal because she lost the will to live just like how Reiner didn't heal at the beginning of the season when Eren attacked Liberia.
If you notice, each time Grisha notices Zeke, it's when Eren is looking at Zeke from behind Grisha, since they're both the Attack Titan and can see into their future memories
23:24 However, Eren cannot really see his future, for spoiler reasons :3
28:45 "I don't know what the point is, I don't know who to root for" that's my friend is war in a nutshell
i like how episode 21 is titled " from you 2000 years ago " and Episode 1 of Season 1 is titled " to you 2000 years ago " ,plus whats even interesting is the fact that this clifhanger isn't the worst
that reaction was THE BEST REACTION EVER.
THIS IS WHAT I WAS WAITING FOR SINCE WE STARTED TIS JOURNEY
Another information in these 2 episodes you might have not processed yet (and that's normal it's a lot to process!) is the reason why Grisha was able to see Zeke. It's simply because Eren was sending the memories of these precised moments in live so that Zeke and Grisha could interact. That's also why episode 21 showed you again the scene between Grisha and Zeke when Grisha is sorry to have been a bad father to Zeke. It's because in this scene you see Eren watching Zeke. If he would have not done it, Grisha could have not been able to see Zeke in that moment. You got the point? Tell me if it's not clear
Is it wrong that when you yelled "THE KISS!", I got Faith Hill 'This Kiss' stuck playing in my head 😂
Eren is like this: I saw 14,000,605 Futures and only one of them is victorious. The scene where Eren starts talking to his father really makes goosebumps go through body.
Ymir was put into slavery by King fritz. But since Ymir has known slavery her own life, she didn't even think about saving herself using the power. She wanted connection and she saw that in King fritz in a twisted way. Since the king acknowledged her, she felt that it was the connection she wanted.
This plot twist is what really solidified Attack on Titan as my number 1 anime of all time. It had always been sitting somewhere in my top 5 or 10, but this episode blew my mind. Attack on Titan has the best writing I’ve ever seen.
it became my number 1 show ever, not just anime.
no.1 piece of media i ever consumed in my whole life
AOT is the greatest to do it and nothing even comes close
If one thinks any anime is so much as comparable to AOT after season one they prolly have some sort of a brain damage
i feel pitty for people who either dropped or didn't watched attak on titan
27:26
In the midst of emotion: "I don't understand."
I laughed a lot.🤣🤣🤣
The most long-awaited and big reaction that we deserved
And the final will be way more epic if you read the manga
Bro, you had a lot of genius moments these 2 episodes. You are unravelling a lot of endgame secrets
Man discovered new emotions today you can tell by his face 🤣😂, as I always say, that's aot dude...
the way eren stares at mikasa telling him the scarf he gave her is warm in his memories is so heartbreaking to me. he cares so much for his friends and her, and all he has to show for it is mikasa wholly believing he hates her and having injured armin in their fight. it's so sad to see how their friendship has fallen apart, even more so since we're starting to see eren's side of things and how it's all gotten to this point.
it´s amazing how eren is such a good protagonist, and antagonist at the same time.
The show really just shows how possibly everyone just is wrong at the end, the only thing that matters is which one you think makes it right.
For ymir´s story, It is hard to say why exactly she acted the way she did,
Most would say it was stockholm syndrom, being a kid which has always been acting on other peoples wishes,
her gaining her powers could be pure coincidence, the plan of whatever the core of titan powers really is,
Either way, i think her whole story was about how there was no humanity, without anyones eyes showing, being more animalistic,
as it was in early times, eating things was considered to also transfer strength and life,
it was more of a last hope for the first king, (also he was the king of eldia, essentially showing that marley while cruel, weren´t always full of shit)
Anyways, great reaction, i´m hyped for the next episodes
The music that plays during epic scenes in anime makes it 100x better
I loved your emotional reaction to the end of the first episode here. It’s how I felt too when I first watched it
The whole point of episode 21 was to show that Ymir, who some think it was a Goddess and others thought of her as an Devil, was just a girl, made a slave for her whole life, and beyond.
She never knew love and nothing else but slavery, that's why the king Fritz said that ''she was free'' an ironically way to release her to be hunted and dead, but she returned even after receiving a power that could change the whole world, because she never had her own volition.
All the stories said by Marleyans and Restourationist Eldians are true, she both made Eldia greater, and slaughered Marleyans, but nothing from her own will. The point in this is to show that her whole existence was cursed, by the Eldians, a King who used her, and even after her death, he made their daughters continuosly pass this power (the one power that was split in 3 after Ymir's death, and this one power was still divided, generation after generation untill it becomes the undivisible number 9, each one of this ''shards'' with one of the original titan's powers and characteristics) but the ones who did this to Ymir wasn't the Marleyans, but the Eldians and the royal blood, that she served for 2000 years, waiting for someone to release her.
Both Eldians and Marleyans cursed each other in this war that began even before the titan's existence, both are equally wrong, and the message of the story is this cicle of hatred, wich is still 2000 years after.
45:56 yes it was king Fritz , he was hunting her like it's some sort of game and started using her after she gained power
Even tho she has that much power , she doesn't have a will of her own , she is just a slave that does everything the king says , she was so broken that the idea of killing the king didn't even occur to her
Actually, as we see by eren getting through to her, she was just for whatever insane reason, willfully his slave, then again as comments have pointed out theres hints and such that she just wanted love, and the closest she gets to that is king fritz.
"This is a story that you started" is a callback to the scene between Eren Kruger and Grisha. Eren doesn't manipulate the past, there is only one timeline (the events we see here is what occured in the past).
Zeke bringing him in the memories of the past is what allows Eren to show his father (through the Attack Titan's powers) his memory of that exact moment. At the moment Grisha sees Zeke and Eren he doesn't see them with his own eyes, he sees them through Eren's eyes. Which is brilliant.
So technically, there is no time travel
in the first season (ep25) when Eren is about to devour annie he said "I'm going to destroy the world", now it's about to happen...
I’m a dad of four and since becoming a father any time emotional scenes involving children come up I’m like 9x more emotional with it
Basically
Eren holds attack titan can see the future and managed to manipulate grisha that also can see future
Also being a titan shifter can see past holders
What it’s incredible is that when you see titans transformation is Ymir who create them as statues made of sand, in that instant using the infinite time of the coordinate.
Now if you watch the endings you will notice a lot of hints of all of this.
Grisha can see Zeke because he can see Eren's memories, everytime he sees Zeke is when Eren is looking at them
When the first episode of the series i read it from 2000 years to now and i saw eren lying below the tree crying and having those flashback i knew it would have to do something with time travel
You couldn't have chosen a more perfect moment for the double episode. Now you got pretty much the full picture I think. I don't know if there will be any big reveals that recontextualize everything, but damn it will be interesting to see how everything that has been set up to this point will play out.
In Ymir's flashback you can see that something happens, and then Fritz asks "who did this thing? If no one confeses you all will lose one eye". Then everyone points to Ymir. He "frees" her from being his slave, and his soldiers chase her. Then she enters that big tree before getting murdered and gets the power of titans, so Fritz forgives her as long as she works to grow the Eldian Empire. Finally she sacrifices herself for king Fritz and their daughters (Ymir's and his) eat her to get the power of the titans and pass them on to future generations
glad you noticed eren was being sarcastic with zeke when he said "im no longer brainwashed"...
This was so amazing, I loved this double episode. I was in the coordinate because one hour felt like an instant.😆
That ending of episode 20 really broke you. 😢
28:03 the right choice is to escape the forest
LETS GOOOOOO RUMBLING BABYYYYYY
Edit 1: loved the reaction to ep 20 fr it was great especially on the Grisha/Zeke scene
Edit 2: holy shit!! I was so excited during the second reaction.. I was trembling and had that stupid smile on my face and tears of excitement on my eyes
I have to say tho, there are many reaction channels BUT you are my favourite by far.. what a journey!