The BEST mouse of 2023?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ส.ค. 2023
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Could a company that has only been around for just over a year have created one of the best mice of 2023? Well in this LAMZU THORN review I'm going to take a look to see if this is another banger from LAMZU.
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I can't wait for a large version
true cant wait for xlite v3
@@dobiloru Different shape though. If I wanted a deathadder shape, I'd just get a DAV3pro. The slightly more rounded rump makes thorn shape more appealing to me, despite being a little small mouse overall.
@@SaltyMaud They really arent that different.
@@jasonjennings8465thry are rlly different, the thorn have a smoother hump that made it fit for any hand size, the ec2 ir any of its clone and the dav3 shape is more aggresive and feel a little bit taller, that eould feel pretty weird for long gaming session (4 hours+) and ive used most of the ec 2 shape clone and i would stila choose thorn all day long
@@jasonjennings8465 Thats the fucking dumbest thing you possibly could have said..... They arent even CLOSE
an ergo comeback on the market would be so refreshing. great review as always.
I got the Fnatic version of the Thorn recently. Wow, it's an amazing fit for my hand. I love how the shape of the mouse fits into the inner part of my thumb, something that the G703 was missing. Clicks are nice with no noticeable overtravel with gaming and regular use.
Hey man. I just want to say thank you for this video and opening my eyes to what really good mice actually are. I'm coming from a Corsair Dark Core Pro RGB wireless because I thought that was the pinnacle of gaming with a heavy weighted mouse and such because that's what I read online. I just finally received my Lamzu Thorn in the mail today and holy cow! The complete opposite of the Corsair weighted. It feels like I'm not holding anything, like I'm holding an egg that was emptied and the material kinda feels like an eggshell too. I put on the rubber stickers and the sticker on the bottom just to do it. Not sure if I needed to or not. It is truly a world apart. The software to customize is very simple, but honestly coming from iCue, I really appreciate it. It doesn't need anything more than what the software offers. Thank you for opening my eyes to what a great mouse can be! Keep up the good work! 😊
I think this IS the mini version. If anything they need an XL of this one to fit the ergo meta. Also, there's nothing wrong with Lamzu's software experience. Mouse software should be as minimal as possible, and should never ever be required to run in the background at all ever in any universe or any timeline under any conditions omfg.
i just ordered it thinking it was a larger ergo mouse, now im reading this is MINI?? Bro when is someone going to make a mouse for human fucking hands. Mice for ants keep winning. A g703 superlight would change the industry rn..
Do you have any suggestions for left handed mouse users ( buttons on both sides ), struggling to find a mouse for me.
great review and editing man, very informative
About the coating, if it is durable then it would win a lot of points with me simply for that. A good last lasting matte finish yes please. This mouse looks tasty in every other respect too ... thank you for the video.
I agree. My pwnage mouse I’ve had for only a year, the left click button has kinda gone shiny and smooth like keycaps typically do and I hate it
For larger ergo mice, is the deathadder the one to get? Looking for one similar in size. The closer the to logitech g500, the better for me.
Looks like a lighter, wireless Vaxee Outset to me too. I always wanted to get the Outset (ergo popular among pros), but the cord and the weight kept me away from it. So maybe the Thorn would be the better choice.
they got a 74g wireless outset now. mostly sold out unfortunately at the moment though
Im currently using viper mini but the side buttons are kinda dead and the scroll wheel is also dead, im trying to find a small claw grip mouse, i heard of Xm1R but it's not available in my country
Amazing review, I was stuck between either getting the Xlite V3 or Thorn and this video has made it very clear that the Thorn is the better option for me.
Is there any mouse thar last more than 2 years? I had two Logi MX and one Razer. In all cases left click stop working at 2nd year.
Can't Wait for a mini version of the thorn 😀👍😀👍
I cant wait for a large version :)
HEY :D , Think theyll come out with a small version !?
Got DA V3 Pro recently for 80€, been loving it ever since
How big is it compared to a Zowie S1?😊😊
can't wait for a mini version of this
how does it compare to the GPRO Superlight in terms of a relaxed claw grip?
Are the side buttons reprogrammable?
is there a chance of an x2h mini review?
What's the diff between the Thorn and the Atlantis?
lamzu thorn 4k or ninjutso sora 4k ? which best
where can i buy it. I cant find it on Amazon
How is stiff are the M1/2 compared to the DAV3Pro? Or do they have overall similar feeling to those?
Dont have dav3 to compare but the Thorn clicks I'd say are right in the middle. Not heavy but I wouldn't say light either. Feels just about right for me personally, might vary unit to unit
When is zowie g sr se gris available on Amazon Europe?
Can you review Techware pulse elite? budget hotswap mouse
Ive heard the black variant is less chalky and has a coarser feel to it
It's either this or the Ninjutso Sora 4K for me. Still on the fence as to which one I want.
can the side buttons be reprogrammed
can you review the rakk gahum that was a budget gaming 3395pixart mice
What is the name of this wireless mouse?
Can't wait to get mines I been waiting for a small mouse that is made for palm grip for Soo long😢
I hope they make a version that's so small i can grip it with just 2 fingers
The np01s is damn nuts too. Also a very good ergo small shape. (I like it better than the DAV3 Pro)
Thorn is slightly too large I think.
I do really love the Xlite V2 Mini. Which we should get the V3 here soon too! Ergo are back!
A Thorne mini I would invest in a heartbeat though. 😊
I have my original np-01s with white shell and black buttons two-tone. Very good still.
I don't like hight pitch clicking sound. I love more clunky a4x7 sound, but I'm just tired of it's bad sensor. x7 constantly too fast on hight DPI and to slow on low. There's no middleground like on some model of Genius Ergo
which is smaller fit in the hand, this or v3pro? shapes are so hard to tell, like they trick me.
the thorn
Looks beautiful
Hello can you help me choosing a mouse please ? a tryied a mini atlantis but im not sure about size yet. Im wrist gamer, pincer claw or hybrid palm/fingertp ? 17/18x9 hands size (i have used razer abbysus, deathadder elite, xtrfy m42 and atlantis mini) shoud i stay with mini pro or thorn ? Thank you! i really like your videos, im very insecure picking a mouse i over analize
try the atlantis mini more if you're unsure if you like it, it can take a while to adjust.
@@DiamondLobbyReviewsThank you! you think thorn shape its not for me ?
Can you do a gpro x super light vs lamzu thorns
We all still dream of a lighter G703 don't we?
Yes. Every fucking day I wait for anything even remotely close. Even if that day ever comes, im sure they will fuck it up somehow (bad coating, changing side buttons, god forbid they alter the shape). Probably remove the dpi button too (people think gamers are allergic to keybinds i guess)
It's finally coming from Amazon today!!!
hay how does the shape/size compare to the g403/g703? ive used g403 for over 7 years now and might wnna try sumthing different
also how does the clicks feel? u know how logitech clicks r known for its super light and snappy feel, how does this 1 compare?
altho the newer logitech switches are different since 2021-2022, im talking about the golden years before they made the switches slightly stiffer so before 2021
also is the dav3 better than the g403/g703? (havent tried it out yet)
If you REALLY enjoy the g703 shape, I think this mouse will be solid for you. If you use a g703 with relaxed palm / using palm control with that back hump, the Thorn will do you well.
Just switched to the Thorn from the g703 and it's giving me exactly what I needed for the shape. They aren't identical, but if you need that back hump for control, this should work. Also the 52g and amazing coating make it super easy to control. Very much enjoying it coming from a g403/703
@@HeyImBoschea u like thorn more than g703? how do the clicks compare?
@@io-rj6sk I think i still prefer the shape of the g703 in an ideal world, but im gonna have to use the thorn considering its HALF the weight of a g703. The thorn is far more comfortable for the lower weight and coating alone. But yeah ideally they will release a g703 superlight and I would probably prefer that to the thorn because the shape is perfect.
Clicks are similar in terms of actuation or pressure needed. But the thorns feels a little punchier and clickier. One reason I started looking for an upgrade was the clicks on my g703 over a few years got gritty. Both brand new though, I'd say pretty similar, g703 is light and crisp, the thorn feels more medium and clicky.
That stuff probably varies unit to unit in both brands though
@@HeyImBoschea interesting, coz i feel like the shape is top tier for me aswell and i dont really care about the weight of the g403, prob coz i dont play any fps games
i wonder if they will ever release g703?
also one big reason i love the g403 is the light and crisp clicks, and im not a fan of heavier clicks so it sounds like thorn wouldnt actually b up my alley
@@io-rj6sk if weight is a non issue for you, I'd stick with the 403/703. Thats the #1 thing you're gaining over the 703 in my opinion.
No mention of pwnage stormbreaker super solid mouse
One question, how is the battery life? Because beside Logitech and razor everything else have hard time to manage battery or turn off when it’s not used. So instead of charging every 3-4 week, you have to charge every f… week.😅
apparently at 4k polling rate, it barely lasts over a single day....
such an underrated channel. you will hit 100k soon trust me
peepocry emote was perfection
I despise mouse and keyboard software. I don't fucking care if shit glows. I just want a comfy mouse/keyboard. Good ergonomics, a nice clicking sound and smooth gliding on top of my mousepad is literally all I want. I really consider buying this!
Taking out the budget constraints, this or the DAV3?
atm I can’t choose between them
wheres the mini version????
It'd be cool if you ever reviewed custom/3d printed mice like stuff from luceout or pmm
3d printed mice use the internals of existing mice (typically Delux m800 Pro or G305) so if you're looking for performance, check those mice out. Otherwise, it's just a reveiw of a recycled shape.
I love Lamzu because of their LESS comedic pricing and great products - Imma all over this when it's avaiable in the UK in 2029
It was available on Zerkgamingmods not long ago.
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@@bjholland8322 MINE IS HERE ;D
My issue with the atlantis mini is the scroll wheel gets build up of dust easily and doesnt register scrolls properly. Fix is to just blow into it super hard. Or be a pepega and open up the mouse and clean it t and lubricate it
say ong?
omg, the software is literally the same as the zaopin z1 pro apart from the lamzu logo xD
Thats so funny to see that someone just ignores some ergo mices while listing "all" variants. Where're pulsar xlite, vancer pollux?
What build you play in PoE?
I have all mouse producted last 4 years and this is the best for me now....
That pretravel Jesus
This has nothing to do with the review itself but at one point you listed some bad optical switches, amongst them the roccat titan. One thing about this switch that you maybe didn’t now is, that roccat mice are really much used in the Minecraft PvP community -……BECAUSE THEY CAN DOUBLECLICK EASILY- which is important in Minecraft PvP (so it’s more or less on purpose)
No roccat did not make a mouse specifically for Minecraft. They made a bad mouse and people still bought it because they play Minecraft.
It seems impressive and I've got one coming.... Those bloated cheesy side buttons are really a strange design. It makes no sense.
I love the XM1r coating. How does it compare ?
Nobody knows. However I love 'Chalky'
COOL a mouse with a Kensington lock !
what did you do with the juice?
injected it in to my veins for better in game performance
What is that mouse stand at 0:51?
link in the description
How does the back hump compares to g703?
Im looking for a lightweight g703 and can't, i have model d wireless and the hump is not there, mouse is too small for me...help
theres fucking nothing bro. youre closest option would be the vaxee outset wireless. But youre losing the dpi button, its still 74g which is heavy-ish in terms of lightweight mice. Also, its sold out currently. I fucking hate it dude why are people so allergic to large lightweight mice that also have more than 2 buttons
@@HeyImBoscheai kept the dav3 wired, best thing ever, the shape is not all there but im kidda getting used to knuckle palm grip, best price/performance mouse if you don't care about a wire!
yeah thats a great mouse if you dont need the back hump. thats the crucial part of the g703, only mouse to share a similar shape is the vaxee outset ax but you lose a dpi button and its $130, and sold out. lifes hard for a 703 enjoyer lmao@@pav1u
Yo just got this lamzu thorn in the mail. If you love the g703, I think you'd really like this. What you love about the g703 shape, this does for you. It has the back hump / thumb hump necessary to give you palm control. Also the 52g and coating makes it very very ergonomic and easy to hold.
Not the *exact* shape of the g703, it's a little more shaped and asymmetrical. But this will definitely replace my 703 for now. Everyone's hand is different, but the Thorn really fills the g703 gap for me.
Side note: I just got it but loving the quality. Clicks, mouse wheel, side buttons, coating etc all VERY solid. Only minor complaint is scroll wheel has a slight rubber squish to the material, probably just preference if you enjoy that or not.
@@HeyImBoscheai would love to try it but its more than 130€ where im at and to be honest im keeping the dav3 wired that cost me under 70€
can't wait for the maya
vaxee do have wireless version
The coating is exceptional. Once my hands are warmed up it’s very sticky. I like this mouse a lot.
just got this in the mail and damn the coating is top tier. hope it holds up because it feels so good
Isn't the death adder v3 wired 70 dollars why not get that? it is bigger but it's also cheaper I've seen some people say the wired version of the death adder is better than the wireless 1
Because it’s exactly that, wired.
deathadder v3 pro faker edition exist
I love roccat optical switches
ancestral league kicked in
I CANT WAIT! FOR A MINI! VERSION! are you insane yet?
Pro athletes using chalk to get better grip-> e-sport enthusiast complaining that their mice feels chalky while looking for the best grip. Jokes aside i main Atlantis OG v2 and everytime I use pro x i cringe. Lamzu ruined mice for me, ye their mice isn't perfect but so close. Can't wait to try the Maya.
Where's an Intellimouse Pro wireless clone when you need one 😭
That mouse slap 😂
You sleeping on Steelseries Prime wireless.? It's the best ergonomic mice and size.
You should also tried the waizowl ogm pro pls diamonds
Summer is back😢
Pulsar xlite: am I a joke to you?
love it
You're having a mistake in your video.
The best sensor out there is the Logitech hero sensor. It's literally perfect.
Switch was so freakin loud, the Maya was much quieter😊
Id love to see some tf2 gameplay when you test these mice
Give me an Outset AX wireless mouse. You. GIVE ME IT.
I can't wait for a mini version of this
Same
5:50 Viewer retention 📉
And modding the g703.
*_I can't wait for a mini version_*
how dare you. but ill still take it lol
@bltelysian don't worry mate I got a deathadder v3 and it's small for me, I just said it to annoy my dude
make a small version
Can’t wait to lay my hand on that chalky mouse 😩🥵
i wonder what the latency and tracking are like. If I'm spending at least $100 after tax on a mouse, I'm not going to try and save $50 to get a compromise. For now, that still means Razer's Viper V2 or DAV3. Lowest click latency, best tracking, best sensor, etc. I'll get used to whatever mouse I buy as long as it's not some Megatron monstrosity, I don't specifically keep trying to find one particular Goldilocks shape.
idk if u ever got to know but lamzu is pretty much on par with razer in terms of latency tracking sensor etc
4:53 some one have heard your cried and come to save your sanity diamond the Sprime PM1 is being tease
So it is a similar coating to the Atlantis, if it was different this would be an instant buy. Could just use grip tape.
I heard their latency is pretty bad thoo?😢 But would be nice if you did tests
@@Schralpz I SERIOUSLY doubt they went down to 2.5ms latency from a firmware update
10 billion?
not even a third botton on the left and shape looks small and boumpy, dont know man,...
Why are you pretending that the Glorious Model D lineup doesn't exist
please never slap a mouse like that ever again
Ergonomic mouse is not worth it as you lose to much micro adjustment control