Okay this is a bit dramatic. Just because Cory isn't interested in anoxic filtration doesn't mean he doesn't care what happens to his fish, it means that he prefers different methods (which also work). Other TH-camrs (including one in particular who teaches biology at a college) feel similarly about anoxic filtration. Anoxic filtration isn't the end-all-be-all. I use a couple of anoxic filters (BCBs) because I find them to be helpful! Different people have different setups and preferences. As long as the animals and plants are healthy and displaying normal behaviors (which is not dependent on the use of anoxic filtration), why does it matter what the methods are? Slamming Cory and saying that he's all about profit because of one opinion that has nothing to do with his business is a bit childish. I have a lot of respect for Dr. Novak, but this is disappointing and below you. Also for the record, I water my orchid with ice cubes and it flowers regularly. I have had 100% success with putting substrate on the bottom of my aquaria.
Dr Novak says he could care less about what Cory or others think…… that he’s just passing along how others feel. That feels to me like a passive aggressive way of using others to do one’s complaining about not being taken seriously by the mainstream hobby. I enjoy learning from him. However, I find it sometimes tedious to sift out the useful information between defending himself and this style of aquarium keeping from others. I would enjoy his channel much more if he would JUST focus on what he is doing and honestly not worry about what other people are doing.
Are you guys really that daft? Like are you all really so oblivious to his point? This dumb cory fellow dismissed the idea without even considering it, with so many fishes lives on the line based on every word he says he has massive responsiblity to be open-minded to new ideas, especially in a hobby so evolving. Yalls inability to see that is profoundly eye-opening and makes me think there are more sheep in this hobby than fish
It hilarious how serious some people take this hobby. Not everybody has a life i guess. Ive been keeping fish for 25yrs and run 13 tanks. Enjoy your fish, its supposed to be be destressing, never forget why you started.
I tried many things in the aquarium world , following the advices from all the TH-cam channels thrown many money into it , always with problems , I build a plenum like you showed with the cat litter, and iron, I have ZERO problem and love everyday I sit and look at it , spending only money on food , fertiliser, and I love it , plants ,fish are good , algea is no problem , thank you
Like you said, the proof is in the pudding. All Cory's tanks look like absolute crap. Why anyone would follow someone who doesn't practice what they preach? At the end of the day Cory is a salesman. He literally makes his living off selling you stuff that you don't need. "The three most important ways to lead people are:… by example… by example… by example.” Albert Schweitzer
Really can't make a comment about anything about his tanks because I have not really seen them up close and personal. I've only seen them through videos.
@@anoxicfiltrationplenums Thanks for all the free knowledge. I really enjoy all your videos and will be switching 2 of my 20s with algae issues to plenums with your guidance. I was planning to use small cycled lava rock instead of bio balls under the plates as that's what I have on hand with pure kitty litter on top like your beta bowl. Thanks again
You are completely off the mark on this. You've misunderstood what Cory was saying. He said he personally has no interest in anoxic filtration and thinks 99% of his audience doesn't either. He'd rather take his channel down than do something that bores both him and his audience. He likes to keep things simple, as he sees it. It wasn't a dig at you. He even mentioned that the people who are interested in it should go find channels who talk about it. You're taking this too personal. Also, he doesn't put the money over the fish or the hobby. There have been lots of times in which he explained how he could be making more money but chooses not to, because he doesn't think it's the right way. So you are misrepresenting him here and that reflects badly on you.
Yeah I guess you're right, I guess I misunderstood that part when he said : rather shut down my channel than to talk about the anoxic filtration system.
Corey was completely ignorant on the topic even sarcastically stating that he would deleted his channel before he does it 🤦♂️ then he said the whole anoxic thing is crazy! 🤷♂️
I still watch Cory for sure i got to know many of the fish i own today because of him and still learning about more thru his channel but for filtration i watch Dr. Novak 💯
If it wasn't a dig at Novak, I don't know what is then. It was 100% beyond the shadow of a doubt, a DIG!!! And fyi......Wrong!!!!!!!!!!!......Cory is 100% in it for the money and NOTHING else. If he wasn't making money, I guarantee you'd never see another video from or hear anything from or about him ever again. I don't believe he was like that in the beginning, but he's definitely changed, and only has one thing on his mind now. Money changes people, and money makes some peoples ego grow to obnoxious levels......and that is what has happened to Cory unfortunately. If you've ever met the guy in person and talked to him, you can almost physically feel his inflated ego, and it's not very long while conversing with him to realize it's all ABOUT THE MONEY!!!
Hi Kevin. . . I've followed your science and you've convinced me to put my money where my mouth is and restarted my tank with all new substrate / plants / fish ! At no time have you asked me for anything in return and I've saved money following your advice . Diy iron solution / dechlorinator etc . I always learn from your vast knowledge and look forward to seeing more videos from your channel . Thanks for your priceless knowledge . Regards . John . 🐠 .
I know this is old drama by now, but I still want to chime in. I wonder where you get the 25% from, but I guess you can define success however you want. And not having any interest in a particular system does not mean you don't care about the fish and are only in it for the money. For instance, blackwater is beneficial for most species, yet people rarely have an interest in it. That does not mean you don't care about the fish. There are a million ways to keep fish, do what interests you, and let others do what interests them. If you are just interested in what is best for the fish, then you should be out there protecting ecosystems and fighting off wild catchers, not keeping them in glass boxes for your own enjoyment.
If it wasn't a dig at Novak, I don't know what is then. It was 100% beyond the shadow of a doubt, a DIG!!! And fyi......Wrong!!!!!!!!!!!......Cory is 100% in it for the money and NOTHING else. If he wasn't making money, I guarantee you'd never see another video from or hear anything from or about him ever again. I don't believe he was like that in the beginning, but he's definitely changed, and only has one thing on his mind now. Money changes people, and money makes some peoples ego grow to obnoxious levels......and that is what has happened to Cory unfortunately. If you've ever met the guy in person and talked to him, you can almost physically feel his inflated ego, and it's not very long while conversing with him to realize it's all ABOUT THE MONEY!!!
You are very wise in teaching. I always learn something new every time I watch one of your videos. I wish I found the plenum videos before setting up my tanks. Had fish since I was 9. Never taught plenum. I do the stirring of the gravel to help. Thank you.
Cory's statement makes sense. Why would he make a video about a system he isnt interested in learning, especially when his watchers will take as advice from an expert? Cory has a ton of videos that include him stating people should use what they already have on hand rather than buying something new from him. He has made and uploaded a bunch of videos showing people how to diy things for his tanks. Additionally, he pays all of his employees a living wage. He wouldn't do these things if he is only chasing profit margins. When he was asked about anoxic filtration he says he doesn't want to make a video about it, because he isn't interested in it, and that there were other TH-camrs that people could go to to learn about it. That isn't misinformation. What is misinformation, however, was your statement about COVID-19 and its treatment.
I was going to listen to this and then make an informed opinion. Then he started on COVID and the OTC remedies. What bunk. Scientists, doctors, governments were scrambling to save lives but they suppressed easily accessed meds in order to help “big pharma” make money? Think about it. Governments are hardwired to get re-elected. Why would they intentionally shoot themselves in the foot by allowing millions to die in order to help “big pharma”? As soon as he started on that garbage I lost interest in anything he had to say. He sounds like a miserable, bitter man because someone doesn’t agree with him. As for Cory and making money. Hello! He has a business and only a fool would sink his own business to make points with all those folks who hate being able to pay their bills. He has never tried to hide the fact that he is also a business man. You don’t have to pay for his advice. He makes tons of free content. I run healthy, thriving aquariums successfully on his advice. And, back to “big pharma”. As someone who suffers chronic migraines, my life would be $hit without nasty old “big pharma”. And, yes, I’ve tried every OTC remedy people have suggested. Only non migraine sufferers think they work. Or maybe there is a huge conspiracy to make me only think they don’t work so I will continue to support “big pharma”? The difference between these two men is that Cory simply said he wasn’t interested in this system. This man hurls personal insults BECAUSE Cory doesn’t use and promote HIS system. There’s a huge difference. I would pay to listen to Cory while I won’t listen to a rude, judgmental, a delusional person like this guy for free.
If it wasn't a dig at Novak, I don't know what is then. It was 100% beyond the shadow of a doubt, a DIG!!! And fyi......Wrong!!!!!!!!!!!......Cory is 100% in it for the money and NOTHING else. If he wasn't making money, I guarantee you'd never see another video from or hear anything from or about him ever again. I don't believe he was like that in the beginning, but he's definitely changed, and only has one thing on his mind now. Money changes people, and money makes some peoples ego grow to obnoxious levels......and that is what has happened to Cory unfortunately. If you've ever met the guy in person and talked to him, you can almost physically feel his inflated ego, and it's not very long while conversing with him to realize it's all ABOUT THE MONEY!!!
Just to add on here. I have been keeping aquariums for 45 years. Until watching Dr. Novak's videos over the last two weeks, I'd never heard of BCB baskets and plenums. Learning that I can have negative ions in the substrate and FULLY complete the nitrogen cycle naturally and reduce phosphate at the same time is exciting news! It has added a whole new dimension to aquarium keeping for me. With that said, Cory does have some great products and high-quality plants!
I guess you didn't hear the insult that he gave me by saying "he'd rather take his channel down before he would talk about an anoxic filtration system." But I guess you didn't hear that part so go back and revisit the video once again. What he said is a complete insult to somebody he doesn't even know.
I watched a bit of the aquarium co-op stream and I think all he said was he didn't want to do a whole show on anoxic filters and plenums because that would be boring for his viewers, but that if you are interested there are other youtubers who talk about it. I'm not in the business but I do think it's a bit naive to think all they want is to just spend your money, because they also know that successful aquarists who aren't broke tend to stay in the hobby longer.
@@anoxicfiltrationplenums I think these large channels tend to prefer tell stories and 'connecting' rather than give specific advice because they need to stay popular with the largest common denominator in their subscribers. The same thing happened to DIY fishkeeping (although less so). They are past giving advice about this or that and I have never gotten anything useful from aquarium co-op myself. Anyway don't waste your subscribers. They came to you because they wanted to hear about your system (me included). Not speculate about aquarium co-op.
@@anoxicfiltrationplenums I guess you missed the part on his livestram the week before when he said at one point he had his entire warehouse on plenums. Then decided to go a different direction. He pointed to other youtubers like you at that point to tell this tale.
@@anoxicfiltrationplenums He said its boring thats why he said his channel talks about fun stuff pretty much my wife cant listen to this channel when i watch puts her to sleep
The science is interesting and I appreciate that you share this with us all but this video comes across like a forum post from 2008, there's my way and the wrong way. There are so many ways to achieve nutrieng export, many of which work absolutely fine and allow fish to flourish and thrive. You cite 25% and 90% success rates, where did these stats come from?
In his live chat I told people how to make frozen fish food much cheaper than buying the prepacks and his response was it would cost $80 to make it because of the time needed. Lolwot. It's one minute in a blender and one minute to spread it over a mould. Funnily enough, I saw a video of his not long after where he was making up some Repashy gel. Took him so long he had to speed up the video!
In Venezuela, this is a crude story because it involves healthy animals, the whole pet industry from vendors to veterinarians promote lots of immoral practices, one in particular strikes me as one of the most hideous of all: The practice of killing aviary birds by crushing them against heavy objects when there is no demand; cockatiels, budgerigars, lovebirds, etc you name it. Just like the production of sacrificial animals for voodoo, just ugly stuff. I remember in particular, when I was a kid, I was in a very high end aquarium shop that was renown in Caracas for trading with salt water and fresh water exotic fish (This is Venezuela when there was lots and lots of money everywhere), they even got a pet arawana that was like 1 m long; any way, I remember I was there and a lady apparently was there about to purchase some fish for her kid, obviously their first purchase, I clearly saw how the staff went along with them on the selection of the clown fish when clearly this was wealthy people with no education whatsoever in the hobby; I promptly warned the lady there were salt water fish and fresh water fish and that "you can't mix them up" (I didn't know about brackish water at that time) and so, the woman change her demeanor, she seemed to appreciate the advice, they would have swindle her and tarnish the experience of having fish in a catastrophic manner.
a blogger on fish keeping here often preaches that he would stick on his practices based on his experience (for years that is actually working), versus subscribing to a research done by others. He may or may not referring to you, but I remember giving him links of your videos and showing him how I built plenum in my aquarium. I will not argue with them, but i know that scientific RESEARCH ere compilations of evaluated experience! :)
Your knowledge is very much appreciated.! In response to some comments on this post Dr Novak states its about the animals under our care and we have to do the very best to make sure they have a chance of survival Yes other methods sometimes work but requires much more care and money .
I'm new to the hobby. Tanks are filled and I'll acquire fish in the very near future. I took my time and learned what I could from many different TH-camrs, and made a conclusion off of what made sense to me, which was under gravel filtration using a slow moving plenum. I even used an air pump you spoke about and have it set on the 10 second pulse. I asked you a question once and instead of answering it you told me to watch your videos. Initially it struck a nerve. Now I could've gotten an attitude, unsubscribed, etc, but I let it go. Maybe you're just busy. Cory has put forth a major effort to educate folk on the hobby. Of course it's his business which makes it a win for all parties involved. I see nothing wrong with him not being interested in anoxic filtration. It's his choice. There are many successful fish keeping methods. There are different approaches to fish keeping. Diversity is important. To say he doesn't care is misleading and wrong in my opinion and the narrative shouldn't be fed anymore than it has. We should be fair. We should be respectful. I appreciate the wisdom you've shared. Personally for me it's the way to go, but please don't enforce this negativity.
Filtration, beyond simple aeration, is necessary when an aquarium has too much 'load' (fish/snails/etc). Some could say adding filtration is where we go wrong.
Just a average joe here and certainly no expert but I’ve never been more successful using the plenum system. Haven’t done a freshwater tank yet but I have done saltwater and it’s phenomenal after getting settled in. I’ll never set up a tank without some sort of plenum system involved. Keep up the great work and informative information !
Hello Dr Novack My name is Bill and I recently set a plenum in my 75, but Unfortunately I'm experiencing a bad stage of the uglies. I believe it is a form of cino bacteria and it's thriving. I've done a water change and vacuumed out most of what I could 1 week ago, but it came back. I've keeping aquariums since i was about 8 yrs old so I know in time it will pass. I've watch most of your utube videos on plenums and BCB filtration so i'm aware it takes time for the tank to cycle. It just looks UGLY.. Thank you for providing the hobby with the information even thou many of us are not willing to listen. Thank you again Bill PS I'd sent a photo of my tank, but am unable to figure out how to thru this forum. Just not techy enough ..
There could be several reasons why you're getting the algae like you are. Lights are on way too long and therefore you have more nutrient makers than users at the moment. Also I have found out the kind of lights you were using can really make a difference on the kind of algae you grow in your aquarium.
@@anoxicfiltrationplenums Dr Novack thank you for your response.. i understand there a numerous reason for my algea uglies. I recently watched one of your videos describing water movement varies thru the plenum based on density of the substrate. And since my base layer is play sand, than kitty liter, followed by laminite. than eco- complete and finally the original gravel from my tear down, so its quite dense. As you mentioned increase the air flow thru plenum to get move water movement thru the plenum. I tested my phosphate level, it is 2.0. I want to get it even lower so I added Fluval;s clearmax bags to the hang on the back filter to add in posphate removal.. Also the lights on my 75 gal are the Asta 120 lights and as you suggested in another recent video,. I reduced light hours to 6.. So hopefully these changes will improve my tanks situation.. I hope so anyway, because I have waiting for their new in a 40 gal breeder. I probably could move them in n ow, but since the aalgea is still in charge at the moment, I think it would less stressful for the fish if they stay where they are for the time being since I'm working i daly trying to get as much aalgea as can. Again thank you for your very informative videos...
I asked Cory to tell me what he knows about Anoxic Filtration on one of the member streams recently. He’s not interested because the AFS isn’t what’s easy for the hobbyist and takes a while to get going. He’s all about taking what’s readily available and making it easier. He did say that the AFS has a cult like following LOL
I've been hearing this excuse for almost 40 years now and it's getting pretty lame don't you think? I show in my videos where I set up an aquariums and immediately put fish in without any problems. So I guess what he is saying has been debunked continuously. But you're forgetting that when hobbiest are successful they don't keep buying things from fish stores anymore. When you don't buy things from people like Cory he doesn't make any money. It's almost like gambling in Vegas they want you to win a little to keep you coming back but they really don't want you to win a lot so you never come back.
@@anoxicfiltrationplenums The same is true for many things. The doctor doesn't make money if she cures you. The doctor makes money when she treats you. Organic gardening is another example. It's far better in the long run but it may not get immediate results as would be had using pesticides and chemicals which make up a huge industry.
When I heard Cory say that I thought.....Uh Oh. Using a under gravel filter plate as a slow-moving plenum couldn't be easier. Figuring out how to get a dirty sponge filter out without getting the schmutz everywhere, that's not so easy. Yes, I know you can use a plastic bag. Then actually getting it clean. Cory said that when designing his line of sponge filters (one of his main money makers) he specifically chose coarse sponge so it wouldn't clog as fast. Because he was getting carpal tunnel syndrome from squeezing sponge filters. There are a lot of advantages to using the anoxic system. The 17 tanks I have setup this way are rock solid parameter wise. I like the minimalist look, no bulky filter inside the tank. It is possible to have almost no flow. Or accessorize to create the right amount of flow. Air driven just like the sponge filter with those same advantages. Much more filtering capacity using no extra space. Less frequent water changes. It doesn’t take months to establish like some people say. The system is designed to take the cycle all the way to N2. Which will gas off. The end product of a sponge filter is nitrate, which means, water changes. I’ve had excellent results with my plants as well. Maybe Cory should work on designing the best UG filter optimized for use as a slow-moving plenum?
I think that Cory from Aquarium Co Op is very informative about every thing he explains and that one guy that got the ?? Well I think Cory had a herd day OK 👍
In the early day's i watched Cory a lot. They kind of lost me when i did not agree an airpump is an absolute neccesity.... Meanwhile over here in The Netherlands it is not common too see them with the more experienced keeper...
👏👏👏I watched the Aquarium COOP stream yesterday and totally agree with what this person states. Most of the TH-camrs will not discuss anoxic filtration. They have been branded by coop to push their products. I was so disgusted by his last two streams. Nothing but talking business and selling. Not much discussion about fish and fish health. I decided then to cancel my membership and unsubscribe. I will be doing this to some other channels as well. If it wasn’t for you speaking out I would totally delete Google off of all my devices anyway. Keep speaking the truth and I hope you don’t get censured. Much respect to you! 👌👌👌✨
It's not only that but he insulted me by saying" he'd rather take his channel down before he would talk about anoxic filtration system." If that isn"t a slap in the face then I don't know what it is.
@@anoxicfiltrationplenums yes that was a slap in the face, not only to you but anyone else who wants to learn and the people who have tried anoxic filtration. As for me, my two tanks I have set up are clicking right on along. My nitrates are dropping very well. I don’t recall the full nitrogen cycle ever being discussed either, just continuous water changes to lower nitrates. As for me it is working. I have two more tanks to set up in the near future.
Whenever science turns on capital, guess which one loses? No matter the field, science will lose when opposed to profit interests. I've seen this time and again in other fields where I participate.
I have set up 20 gallon planted freshwater fish tank with plenum and BCB with ADA natural river gravel. It is 3 months old. The other water parameters except ph seems to be falling in acceptable limits. The ph has been rising from 7.4 to 8.2 .Request advice on methods to control it.
The natural river gravel may be contributing to the rising pH levels. Limestone, which can be common in natural gravel, will raise pH. Try this: put some gravel in a cup and add R.O. or distilled water and leave for a day or two. Measure the pH and see if it differs from the original water. That will tell you if the gravel is doing it.
Why not reach out to him publicly and say you’d like to have this conversation with him on a livestream? Do it as a community post or a video and at him and the other people in his sphere. What harm would that do to you in suggesting that option? Then you can say I tried to have this conversation with him about it but he refused. But at least give him the ability to reject learning about it from you. He values his time highly and might not be able to watch or read all the information you or others have put out. If he can learn and still have a normal livestream it might make him more willing to consider learning as it isn’t cutting into his time during the day but rather a natural part of it.
most intelligent people listen more than they talk........this guy talks and talks and talks and talks.............he obviously hasn't watched many of coreys videos or he would know that corey made the money because he cares about the fish and keepers .....
Corey cares about one thing and one thing only money. How much money can he make to provide for him and his family. If you believe anything more than that, then you believe in the Easter bunny in Santa clause. If this guy cared so much about fish as you claim, he would embrace all new technology out there and try to teach his constituents this new technology instead of making the claim that he'd rather close down his entire TH-cam channel before he would learn anything about the anoxic filtration system. In other words, he would rather remain obtuse to what is being taught in our universities and colleges. That does not sound to me like a person who gives a rats behind about his fish, and how much he cares about the hobbiest. Don't come on my channel spewing, all this garbage out of your mouth about somebody who can care less about anything except money, and how much money he's going to make in the future. Because he surely doesn't care about the fish and the animals we keeps and what is being taught in our universities and colleges.
As much as I enjoy the co op I can’t help but agree that more hobbyists should be educated about all methods of filtration. Anoxic filters should at the very least be talked about more. I work at a petsmart, selling fish and critters to the general public. The lack of information and maximizing profit is the norm. There has always been a huge problem in the fish hobby of lack of information. I agree we should do the best for any animal in our care.
Also for a company dead set on the planted tank idea, anoxic filters and plenums would be a great practice to push, but I guess when your substrate gets filled with gas you’ll be coming back to the Co-op for more substrate and ferts…
Your journey into "alternate treatments" (the monoclonal antibodies do show some effectiveness against some strains .. all the others (malaria treatment, horse wormer etc) show no efficy in the treatment of covid) basically invalidates anything else you have to say about pretty much anything. Once again you prove the "smart people can still be dumb" hypothesis.
You're absolutely wrong and your analysis of ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. These have been proven throughout the entire world to work it's just that you're drinking the Kool-Aid of the medium that is advocating that they do not work. This is all because big Pharma likes it that way. Like they say: "stupid is stupid does," so quit drinking the Kool-Aid and start educating yourself on these drugs that are out there. In India they use ivermectin as a treatment for Covid so I guess 1.5 billion people are wrong and you're right. But you never hear about that on the news. Educate yourself !
Cassandra smith ivermectin was invented by scientists for human consumption first. Then it was learned it could be and is used for other treatments with great success and could be also used as a dewormer for horses and other animals. You can look it up yourself if you want the true facts. The true stupid people can also look up scientific data on Covid from many countries that has been compiled by actual doctors and scientists and is peer reviewed. It is not what you are hearing from the US government and mainstream media.
Cory has said on many streams he hates doing streams but they make money. He is burnt out majorly from this business. He seems to like chasing the projects, probably both because projects and set ups are fun and because it can drive sales. He doesn't sell fish online and doesn't seem to sell much in terms of filtration online. But that's not to say it wouldnt impact his advertisers and supply chain. He comes off just very burnt out but perks up on the projects but never the theories. Even his legislative view recently seems to be opinion that gets influencer money now rather than long term care of fish and habitats.
Can I run this idea, across you. I’m going to cut underground filter down to half inche. Put 1 inche layer of soil on top of underground filter Add 1 inche of cat litter and laterite. Another layer of desired gravel. Could that possibly work?
Yes if someone responds like that then they know it works. I knew about plenums 3 years before I decided to try one, it was new to me I never heard of it before. I kept the receipts for my expenditure over 1 year an I spent 1200.00. now with the plenums I spend next to nothing. when I first heard about plenums I thought it was to good to be true but as the years went by I found that there was always something wrong with my water or fish were getting sick etc. I nearly threw in the towel an thought lets give it a go what the worse that could happen? 8 months later it was the best decision I've made in a while :)
Do you even hear yourself? Seriously. My suggestion… you want people to listen your views or try new systems/different ways to do things yet you are noxious and did zero research before spouting off. This entire video is an oxymoron.
All I can say if you can prove me wrong by any research that you have done please enlighten me? Because what I talk about is being taught in our universities and colleges and it falls under the classification of waste water management. But of course you know more than our colleges and universities so please enlighten all the people that are listening to my videos how smart you are and what an intelligent individual you are and show us the facts, not anecdotal hearsay or opinions, but the scientific facts that back up what you do and/or say. Then after you do that please come up with any public aquarium/s that is out there that condones anything that you implement in your aquarium. I challenge you not to look stupid in front of everybody but you go ahead and put your foot in your mouth. Oh, please give me the name/s of the universities that have done the scientific research and the professors names because I will contact them to double check. It is sometimes better to be thought of as a fool, than to open one's mouth and relieve all doubt.
@@anoxicfiltrationplenums you misunderstood me. I don’t believe you’re wrong at all. My objection is your lack of understanding of what Corey said. There are many ways to achieve a result. Your way is one of the correct ways.
Hello Dr. Novak. Ive been in aquarium hobby for around 20 years. Even here in India the aquarium trade is only concerned with profit. A renowned youtuber when asked about the idea of plenum and anoxic filtration, replied that it is waste of money. They are more interested in selling ADA products which ask for heavy premium. Here in India it is very difficult to find under gravel filters and traders are more interested in selling cheap quality China products like canisters, top or submursible filters. I had ordered and already paid for under gravel filter from China, however it has been over two months and have not recived the same. These things and high prices are the things that deter people from this hobby in India. Love your videos.
You're absolutely right sir. When I moved to India my husband got an aquarium for me because I always loved keeping fish. It's one of those RS Electrical kit aquariums and it only has a built in top filter for filter floss and no biological filtration. All my other aquariums I built my own filters that used gravel for biological filtration and I never had my fishes die like they did in this new tank. You're right, they're only concerned about selling more fish and supplies without a thought of keeping them alive and healthy. So when I realised the problem I made my own undergravel filter plate from a scrap piece of 4“ pvc water pipe and sawed slits all over it then opened it up using heat from the stove and made it into a plenum for my tank. If you don't have some form of biological filtration to clean up the toxic waste created by the fish, they will always keep getting sick and dying.
Agreed Mrs Singh. I'm from Mumbai and it has pained me to go see the hobby and its ways people only keep coming to replace the fish they lost and even then the same shopkeeper tells him to buy the same fish saying this particular neon tetra are hardy but there are also a few stores scattered around the city where the shop owner is a hobbyist like us and always guide their customer to the right fish choices according to their tank size whether they are ok with each other and budget too and always promote dirted planted tank with mix of cheap fast growing and slow growing plants instead of plastic ones. I truly pray these kind of people increase in number
I had a friend who managed a huge fish department... I mean a few hundred large aquariums. And his expertise was keeping thousands of fish alive for a very short period of time, basically until they were sold, beyond that he usually called me for advise. His filter system included huge vats of fluidized sand, with massive 5 hp motors driving them, a rack of 4 foot UV sterilizers and protein skimmers, and a constant fresh water feed and exchange system that was designed by another friend of mine. There was nothing he was doing that the average home hobbyist was likely to learn from. Just because you sell fish doesn't mean you know how to actually keep fish long term in a real life home aquarium. And to be entirely honest, I'm sure Cory doesn't care about an anoxic system... For various reasons, it would be very hard to implement in a high volume large pet shop. In any case it's a lot harder than a central water change system and a few sponge filters. As a breeder, I sometimes have to knock down, bleach out and set up small aquariums on the fly which isn't necessarily conducive to a standard anoxic system either. But I am working on it.
I think myself that people expect more from Cory that's such a terrible answer that he gave on his live stream. That is exactly why individuals are complaining because they really thought he would help educate them and push them forward to the next level of aquarium keeping. Unfortunately they have been disenchanted by his channel when he did that and that is the only reason I got their complaints. People are no longer zombies and will follow their masters no matter what they say. They want to be educated to the point that they can understand what they're doing and why they're doing it and they want to see others become successful because they do care about the fish and about how much money they spent on their aquariums.
Anoxic filtration is easily setup even in multiple tank setups as you can simply layer the substrate once and never look back. I would say every fish store should have them...even if central filtration is used, it can STILL be implemented very easily. It really doesn't take a lot of expertise to do this.
@@GSP-76 Pet shops have to tear down and set up aquariums on the fly. Sometimes they need to bleach out a tank that gets diseased fish. Basic glass boxes with a good central filter and auto water change, is reasonable when you don't intend to keep any fish in the store for more than a few days.
OMG. You are overreacting to a simple comment that he had no interest in making an entire show about anoxic filtration. Corey has said in the past he isn't a great fan of canister filters either. I don't remember anyone getting all upset about that. After watching your show I think you are in the your way or the highway mode. Corey didnt say it was a bad system or insult anyone who wanted it. He does represent a business venture and if he thinks it would be a boring show and he isnt interested and would not make money for Aquarium coop then good for him. You sound jealous. Perhaps you could try making a video about Anoxic filtration that isn't boring.
Saying: you will shut down your channel, than talking about something; that's a pretty adamant statement of anger. He doesn't need somebody like you to fight his battles but then again, if you want to kneel and kisses his ring that's entirely up to you. You can see through his past videos, and his present ones that he cares about nothing except the Benjamins now.
Hi Dr. Novak, I just recently began viewing your videos, I've watched videos of Cory's as well as many other fish tubers. I've even started my own channel ( more for fun then anything else but that's not the point). Anyway, just like with any other area of life everyone is entitled to their opinion, it doesn't make their choices 100% right or wrong. I don't believe that his statement shows him to be for profit only BUT in terms of the fact that he does run a business things are going to be profit first or profit forward. I totally agree with you that the animals care should always come first , however, filtration is not a one size fits all situation. For Cory, anoxic filtration systems are not something he is interested in. He believes that his viewers are not interested in seeing it. That's where creators like you come in. For the hobbyists that WANT to know more about the science behind it. At the end of the day it's important for us all to respect each other's experiences and ideas even if we disagree. Could Cory have been more tactful in his statement, absolutely.
Even if he had no interest in it, he literally said that in a condescending tone by saying "if you're the 0.02% that cares about that"...that was just crass behavior...and it highlights how little he actually knows about the hobby.
Ok, anoxic filtration system or other methods are working, and easy.... So Maybe if it becomes more popular, then this fish store guy and others like him start to think differently, usually that's how foolish persons act
That number is not likely to be far from the reality. In my country i never seen anyone do it. So i think the statement might be harsh but its the truth
Sir. Please stop. What you say *may* be true, but berating a fellow content creator by name on a public forum is disgraceful! You’ve lost this subscriber.
Doc, you claim I'm going to have a 25 percent success ratio using traditional filtration methods! Really? I have 55 years in this hobby and I'm calling BS. UG filters are great with the right fish but that leaves a lot of species out. Cory's comment was simply to deflect a conversation he didn't want to have at that point in time, nothing more. Instead of trying to divide you fish keepers over this non issue you should be trying to find common ground for the betterment of the hobby.
I don't make up the statistics these are the facts whether you like them or not . You have a right to your own opinion but you don't have a right to your own facts. You have a 25% chance of success doing it that way. If you're one of the lucky ones great but you are an exception to the rule not the rule.
@@anoxicfiltrationplenums Where do you get the statistics? Is there a double blind study you can point to? Over my many years in the hobby I have set up hundreds of aquariums and after normal cycling all have been long term successful. If you understand how odds are calculated that makes me unrealistically lucky. The truth is simple, there are many ways to run a tank and have it be successful.
I love that you are so open and honest about the reality of the pandemic 👍🍁 My wife was fired 2yrs ago as an ICU nures in Canada I appreciate what you have done for this hobby 🙌🐟🐠🐡🐚🦠
I need to find a very Leman's explanation. I know what Anaerobic filtration is and thought this meant the same thing but apparently this is a bit different.
Well I must say you said it all. I watched same video, when Corey said what he said I went what?. So started it again. Yup that's what he said. I was very disappointed. I started watching aquarium Co op when I came back into hobby and set an aquarium up just like Corey and the rest of the hobby does it, well you guessed it, it was a disaster. Then I watched your videos, when nothing but success. In all honesty Corey did mention about undergravel filters and how he wanted to do some experiments with them. But that was in another video a long time ago. Thank you for your time and energy in putting these videos out, let's hope the industry changes for the better.
Like I said my video this wasn't me complaining this was another hobbiest that sent me emails complaining. Personally I don't care what he exactly says it doesn't bother me but I decided to do a video and speak up for those hobbiest that need to have their voices heard.
Aardvarks make terrible house pets. All humor aside, there is so much misinformation online. I’ve kept aquariums off and on for over 60 years. Currently I have a small aquarium with a slow moving plenum that I made with water column plants and a single beta, it’s self sustaining, other than feeding its trouble free and always beautiful.
What a stink this video has made. A lot of people are talking about this, even other You Tube channels. If I owned an aquarium store, I would get with You and see if we could make like a kit to sell. Stores could make a mint.
It's a shame that people are making such a big stink out of it. But for someone to literally say they would rather close down their TH-cam channel than talk about something that could benefit the hobby is really going a little too far.
I watched a lot of Aquarium Co-Op videos and respected Corey a lot...that take he had on anoxic filtration really came off more childish and something more indicative of someone who is a more casual fishkeeper... definitely not someone with a fish store and 800k subscribers.
Like I said, it wasn't me that complained about it, it was another viewer that watches his channel that complained about him. And you're absolutely right in your analysis.
@@anoxicfiltrationplenums Your plenums are extremely easy to do and costs are extremely cheap... knocking on it makes no sense. It really saves fishkeepers a lot of grief and makes the hobby more enjoyable.
@@anoxicfiltrationplenums You may have not said it directly, but you certainly appreciate to be endorsing their statements by spreading them as far as possible. Doing this appears as a passive aggressive jab at bigger hobbyists/industry people who don’t share your view that anoxic filtration is the only acceptable form of proper filtration, which simply isn’t the case. I’ve tried your method and I like it. I look forward to expanding it into more of my tanks…… and I’m a COOP fan too.
Hurray Dr. I have been waiting and wondering when "this" cat was let out of the bag. It's kinda funny that I am and will continue to be a customer of Cory's, I love his products and knowledge of fish and needed products. However, I also love to have a healthy and thriving system, and that my friend is what you teach. Again, have a great day and keep up the great work.
Well said Dr.Novak, seems like TH-cam throws serious money at these so-called experts when they get several hundred subscribers or more, you can bet Cory is laughing all the way to the bank, you deserve One Millon subscribers, the information you provide is priceless. Keep up the good work.
Ive been saying this about cory for at least a year now. I think on this channel at one time but many other channel. He did the same to u and father fish. U are right on about him. If he can't sell anything he don't like it. I will go to Las and pay double rather than buy from him.
I do not badmouth other people's channels I leave them to their own devices. But I also don't make a comment that what they're doing is so bad that I don't want to talk about it that I would close down my channel like Cory has stated on his channel.
Hi doc. Don’t get irritated with those nay saiders. I made the cheapest bcb bag about 2 months ago and nitrates seem to be going down. I have try other expansive mediums. but this cat litter may be the best medium I have used.
Dr.Kevin Novak, That's is very common practice for every business people. Profits is the main important consideration when you have 1000 employee compared to just few employee because they need to make the business sustainable in order to survive. This is the nature of every type of business. Business owner always very hard to make decision to choose the right path. Same issue in medical business, manufacturer only create medicine for patients to survive and not to cure the illness.
Ivermectin does work if it is used early enough and Paxlovid is a derivative of ivermectin which means that Ivermectins patents have run out. So now they had to hurry up and make a new drug to take its place basically the same as the old drug but now for use under Emergency use authorization. Oh, and by the way it cost five times more than one ivermectin would it cost.
I don't believe Corey,Aquarium co op ONLY cares for money. He did say that though. You have also said there is always more than one way to do things. Some People don't take well to change if they believe their way is successful. He weekly answers viewers questions to help with the hobby. For some, there is more than one way to be successful in fish keeping so change is questionable, that's all
Corey has worked very hard to create the coop and fair play to him. However I feel. Like I'm listining to a business man complaining about the multitude of problems to overcome on a daily bases. So as an avid hobbiest there's a real feel good factor watching vids such as yours. Feels like I'm in a club
Tip my hat to you sir discus are loving your filter. 2 tanks and my pond we all dip in to. To me it's sustaining plant life then you'll do excellent with your fish just my 2 cents worth lol
Wow, saw Cory's clip, at first I thought you were exaggerating. But he actually said he would take down his channel before talking about anoxic filtration, and it was too boring to talk about. Just sad. I'm boggled by peoples hate for anoxic filtration. Here is something that can improve the quality of life for your fish, make the hobby easier, and people just put it down. Keep spreading the the word Novak, don't let the haters get you down.
It seems like a few people have missed that very critical part of the insults that he gives to me. And I should just overlook such an insult and let him do anything he wants to other TH-cam channels.
I pray Almighty that one day the co- op would be one of your small outlets. It does not take time to change. People who were searching for science will take rest at your door step.
The majority of Cory's audience are beginner fish keepers, and cory markets fishkeeping as easy. It obviously hurts his bottom line to discuss these kinds of complexities, which contradicts his marketing message.
After watching that Corey guy for the first time a while back after two minutes I realized his baseline story which sums "the one who's spending is bestie"
I guess I'm also disappointed . I'm no longer a member of the coop. He sells good plants but that's about it. Science is the key to success. Animal husbandry is top priority. Haven't lost 1 fish, just lucky I guess. Put my substrate right on the bottom of my tank. Your tanks talk for themselves. I believe a plenum is in my future. Already made up my bcb for the canister. Thank you for the science behind your work.
alex is questioning you calling yourself Dr. Novak on his live stream. personally i don't care but i think its low how far these people will go to try to smear someone with good information.
Dr. Novak has a point. When you ask questions about maintaining fish and plants, you get very little information, even from a good LFS. They will be happy to sell you more fish and plants when they fail. Thank you, Dr. Novak, for saying what needs to be said. I would like to try your method on my 10 gallon Tank and, if successful, trying on my larger tank.
Indeed, disappointment is the final result watching commercial channels. You finish with your cabinet full of useless things and you feel you have lost control of the tank. That's the moment when you're prepared to study the science related to aquariums. Sadly, many people leave the hobby. Regards
I guess this is why I was informed about his channel. People want to be successful and not failures and keep buying product after product thinking that it will work for them. They want to get the right information to do the right thing to save their fishes lives. Not buy another product that may or may not work.
I agree , I was disappointed to see he dismissed it as boring! For me I researched the crap out of filtration, obviously it is one of the most important parts of keeping a healthy aquarium, so I’m sure if he would endorse it sooo many people would have so much more success in keeping healthy aquariums , especially with that many subscribers. I keep goldfish so I need a good filtration system so I for one am very thankful to have found your channel, I look forward to any video you bring out to find out more, To the point I have to go back and rewatch your videos lol. I was also interested in your videos where you show how to make the chemi pure bags as well as bcb bags etc so if you have any other ideas that will help our nitrates I am all ears. Plants are great but I love to hear how nature provides what we need if we understand how it all works and what conditions we need to provide the correct conditions for nature to do it thing. I have been looking for those beads you can use in those bags but I cannot find them anywhere. I’m not sure if the name, macro beads ? Do they also help , I would be interested in more on how those things work? Is that what they use in chemi pure or purigen? Those little bags you can buy about $40 here in Australia very expensive for a little bag, so if you know how to make those I would love to see a video on that. But I’m only one little stalker of yours lol 😂 Keep your videos comming. 🙏🏼 Ps I totally agree about this dam pandemic as well. The money they made off this vaccine is crazy but that’s unfortunately how the world works now, all about the money 😞😞
let's be nice and let the information speak for itself everyone...I understand these people are in 'business' to sell their product as are many others in countless other businesses. Profit is the bottom line for many. Just keep using your own minds people. No one needs to tear others down to build themselves up.
I agree, we should try to care for our animals as best as we can. I love animals and enjoy caring for them and even losing a fish makes me very sad and feel like I'm a failure. It happened when I lost my two blue gouramis to an ammonia spike when I tried to use the dirted tank method and was promised that system was the best and most natural. I felt terrible when it crashed and dug into more research on why it crashed and how to prevent it from happening again when I found your videos on plenums and anoxic filtration so decided to try it out. It hasn't been over a month and I'm already seeing good results with it. My mystery snails are laying eggs and my fish are having babies again. There's no more diseases I'm constantly fighting anymore and my fish are always active swimming around eating aquatic fana constantly. So thank you Dr. Novak for sharing your knowledge and helping us build our system to keep our animals healthy and thriving. For every new tank I do I'll be using a plenum system because it's saved me so much headache and now I'm more confident I'll be able to care for these creatures better. 😊
I've been in this hobby for a very long time and dealt with the sale of fish for a very long time. However, the aquarium business depends on people coming back repetitively to their establishments to spend money otherwise what good is it they have a business if you can't buy a house and car and other luxury things that everybody else gets to buy. It's no different and the Pine hobby as the aquarium hobby. They want you to buy they're very expensive equipment and that's how they survive. There's no money in building an anoxic filtration system for your pond and then it last 30 or 40 years with little to no work.
Seeing a relatively prominent member of the YT community with "zero interest" in learning about something that could make our fish healthier, and as a result the people that own them happier... it's unfortunate. Sometimes it's the naivete of thinking that everybody else that's in your hobby has the same altruistic or good intentions for our pets. And it can suck to see the ugly reality that many people put personal profit in front of doing what's best for the animals and customers. It's also sad how business and profit have become the rulers of our society. As mentioned in the absolute crime perpetrated against the American people by lying Big Pharma, Big Gubmint, Big Mainstream Media, and Big Tech regarding pedestrian, cheap options for treatment in covid that demonstrates the same if not better efficacy than the jabs. These are real human lives out here that have been adversely effected, and in some cases ended due to this evil.
Watched the video and was shocked on what he said. Okay Cory since using Dr. Novaks anoxic filtration system, guess what, I don't need anything from Aquarium-Coop to run my aquariums. Smoke that in your pipe Mr. Cory Co-Op.......
He said "I would delete my channel before I'd do that". Almost implying it's hogwash. Well Dental work of the magnitude he requires costs lots of money.
Like I said this is a hobbyist that came up and complained. I do understand it is a double edge sword if somebody like him actually start showing a system that works and then people quit buying aquarium products because they are successful. I completely understand that.
@@anoxicfiltrationplenums i completely understand but it wouldn't stop people from buy filters. I was a little reluctant to try a plenum. I finally decided to make one for my 40 gallon. For the past 2 months that I've had it setup I've been seeing small changes. I still battle algae but isn't as bad as it used to. This past month I got really busy with work and got home too tired to do any maintenance on the tank and i did change water just recently. I checked water parameters beforehand and everything was fine. All my fish are fine they are always wanting to breed and my shrimp are always buried now. All in the little time that I've set it up.
Yeah I am glad that I never subscribed to his channel it is very noticeable that's he's about money more than anything else if he was really interested in the hobby he wouldn't have any issues trying it out, right? trying new things is a huge part of this hobby I believe and if trying something "new" doesn't make any harm why not?
i would think people who sell fish have a vested interest in selling more fish to their customers, which means the original fish must die and get replaced. the quicker they die, the more money is transacted to replace them. therefore misinformation is the basis for a profitable business. and selling accessories are also moneymakers. anyone who doesn't advocate using these accessories is looked at by the industry as a ''kook''. there is a fellow on ytube who has hundreds of tanks with no filtration and no aeration. his model is any typical pond which doesn't come with air or filters. the big guys have actually referred to him as ''eccentric'' even though his fish have lived for years.
I started watching Aquarium Coops recently as I got back into the hobby. At first Corey sounds genuine, but after a while it doesn't make logical sense. Corey's method is a planted tank with deep substrate running minimum plant lights and no CO2. This is ineffective because plants use up nitrates most quickly when they are growing. Plants under low light that are just respiring can process only a little ammonium so Corey's method is really a tricky balancing act that revolves around minimum food, balancing light level with fertilizer, and type and quantity of fish being kept. These tanks always crash and the blame is always shifted to the newbie who doesn't have enough experience with planted tanks. It may seem harmless enough but stop and realize all the stuff you end up buying from him(or from his suggestions); Premium fish food, liquid fertilizers, root tabs, extra sponges and bio rings, plants, extra gravel, brine shrimp culture, snails, Amano shrimp, Otocinclus, water conditioners, fish medications etc..etc... and with water changes as needed. This was supposed to be the easy way but turns out way more complex than a plant-less Aquarium with charcoal and Ammonium pellets with water changes once a month. To be fair, a lot of TH-camrs are sponsored or otherwise trying to sell you something. Nothing wrong with selling stuff. Just realize that is what is going on and he is not offering you the best choices or the best affordable options - he ultimately wants to sell his stuff to make money. I do like Dean but he is not really Aquarium Coops. He knows his stuff, shows a lot of affordable DIY and is upfront when he plugs a commercial for Coops.
Preach it Dr. Novak! You're absolutely right!
Okay this is a bit dramatic. Just because Cory isn't interested in anoxic filtration doesn't mean he doesn't care what happens to his fish, it means that he prefers different methods (which also work). Other TH-camrs (including one in particular who teaches biology at a college) feel similarly about anoxic filtration. Anoxic filtration isn't the end-all-be-all. I use a couple of anoxic filters (BCBs) because I find them to be helpful! Different people have different setups and preferences. As long as the animals and plants are healthy and displaying normal behaviors (which is not dependent on the use of anoxic filtration), why does it matter what the methods are? Slamming Cory and saying that he's all about profit because of one opinion that has nothing to do with his business is a bit childish. I have a lot of respect for Dr. Novak, but this is disappointing and below you.
Also for the record, I water my orchid with ice cubes and it flowers regularly. I have had 100% success with putting substrate on the bottom of my aquaria.
Dr Novak says he could care less about what Cory or others think…… that he’s just passing along how others feel. That feels to me like a passive aggressive way of using others to do one’s complaining about not being taken seriously by the mainstream hobby.
I enjoy learning from him. However, I find it sometimes tedious to sift out the useful information between defending himself and this style of aquarium keeping from others.
I would enjoy his channel much more if he would JUST focus on what he is doing and honestly not worry about what other people are doing.
Are you guys really that daft? Like are you all really so oblivious to his point? This dumb cory fellow dismissed the idea without even considering it, with so many fishes lives on the line based on every word he says he has massive responsiblity to be open-minded to new ideas, especially in a hobby so evolving. Yalls inability to see that is profoundly eye-opening and makes me think there are more sheep in this hobby than fish
Thank you very much.
It hilarious how serious some people take this hobby. Not everybody has a life i guess. Ive been keeping fish for 25yrs and run 13 tanks. Enjoy your fish, its supposed to be be destressing, never forget why you started.
exactly, we are responsible.
I tried many things in the aquarium world , following the advices from all the TH-cam channels thrown many money into it , always with problems , I build a plenum like you showed with the cat litter, and iron, I have ZERO problem and love everyday I sit and look at it , spending only money on food , fertiliser, and I love it , plants ,fish are good , algea is no problem , thank you
Like you said, the proof is in the pudding. All Cory's tanks look like absolute crap. Why anyone would follow someone who doesn't practice what they preach? At the end of the day Cory is a salesman. He literally makes his living off selling you stuff that you don't need.
"The three most important ways to lead people are:… by example… by example… by example.” Albert Schweitzer
Really can't make a comment about anything about his tanks because I have not really seen them up close and personal. I've only seen them through videos.
@@anoxicfiltrationplenums Thanks for all the free knowledge. I really enjoy all your videos and will be switching 2 of my 20s with algae issues to plenums with your guidance. I was planning to use small cycled lava rock instead of bio balls under the plates as that's what I have on hand with pure kitty litter on top like your beta bowl. Thanks again
You are completely off the mark on this. You've misunderstood what Cory was saying. He said he personally has no interest in anoxic filtration and thinks 99% of his audience doesn't either. He'd rather take his channel down than do something that bores both him and his audience. He likes to keep things simple, as he sees it. It wasn't a dig at you. He even mentioned that the people who are interested in it should go find channels who talk about it. You're taking this too personal.
Also, he doesn't put the money over the fish or the hobby. There have been lots of times in which he explained how he could be making more money but chooses not to, because he doesn't think it's the right way. So you are misrepresenting him here and that reflects badly on you.
Yeah I guess you're right, I guess I misunderstood that part when he said : rather shut down my channel than to talk about the anoxic filtration system.
Corey was completely ignorant on the topic even sarcastically stating that he would deleted his channel before he does it 🤦♂️ then he said the whole anoxic thing is crazy! 🤷♂️
I still watch Cory for sure i got to know many of the fish i own today because of him and still learning about more thru his channel but for filtration i watch Dr. Novak 💯
@@anoxicfiltrationplenums Then he said the whole Anoxic thing is crazy! 🤷♂️🤦♂️🤣
If it wasn't a dig at Novak, I don't know what is then. It was 100% beyond the shadow of a doubt, a DIG!!! And fyi......Wrong!!!!!!!!!!!......Cory is 100% in it for the money and NOTHING else. If he wasn't making money, I guarantee you'd never see another video from or hear anything from or about him ever again. I don't believe he was like that in the beginning, but he's definitely changed, and only has one thing on his mind now. Money changes people, and money makes some peoples ego grow to obnoxious levels......and that is what has happened to Cory unfortunately. If you've ever met the guy in person and talked to him, you can almost physically feel his inflated ego, and it's not very long while conversing with him to realize it's all ABOUT THE MONEY!!!
Hi Kevin. . . I've followed your science and you've convinced me to put my money where my mouth is and restarted my tank with all new substrate / plants / fish ! At no time have you asked me for anything in return and I've saved money following your advice . Diy iron solution / dechlorinator etc . I always learn from your vast knowledge and look forward to seeing more videos from your channel . Thanks for your priceless knowledge . Regards . John . 🐠 .
I know this is old drama by now, but I still want to chime in. I wonder where you get the 25% from, but I guess you can define success however you want. And not having any interest in a particular system does not mean you don't care about the fish and are only in it for the money.
For instance, blackwater is beneficial for most species, yet people rarely have an interest in it. That does not mean you don't care about the fish. There are a million ways to keep fish, do what interests you, and let others do what interests them. If you are just interested in what is best for the fish, then you should be out there protecting ecosystems and fighting off wild catchers, not keeping them in glass boxes for your own enjoyment.
If it wasn't a dig at Novak, I don't know what is then. It was 100% beyond the shadow of a doubt, a DIG!!! And fyi......Wrong!!!!!!!!!!!......Cory is 100% in it for the money and NOTHING else. If he wasn't making money, I guarantee you'd never see another video from or hear anything from or about him ever again. I don't believe he was like that in the beginning, but he's definitely changed, and only has one thing on his mind now. Money changes people, and money makes some peoples ego grow to obnoxious levels......and that is what has happened to Cory unfortunately. If you've ever met the guy in person and talked to him, you can almost physically feel his inflated ego, and it's not very long while conversing with him to realize it's all ABOUT THE MONEY!!!
You are very wise in teaching. I always learn something new every time I watch one of your videos. I wish I found the plenum videos before setting up my tanks. Had fish since I was 9. Never taught plenum. I do the stirring of the gravel to help. Thank you.
Dr Novak is a gangster, I'm watching all your videos
Cory's statement makes sense. Why would he make a video about a system he isnt interested in learning, especially when his watchers will take as advice from an expert?
Cory has a ton of videos that include him stating people should use what they already have on hand rather than buying something new from him. He has made and uploaded a bunch of videos showing people how to diy things for his tanks. Additionally, he pays all of his employees a living wage. He wouldn't do these things if he is only chasing profit margins.
When he was asked about anoxic filtration he says he doesn't want to make a video about it, because he isn't interested in it, and that there were other TH-camrs that people could go to to learn about it. That isn't misinformation. What is misinformation, however, was your statement about COVID-19 and its treatment.
I was going to listen to this and then make an informed opinion. Then he started on COVID and the OTC remedies. What bunk. Scientists, doctors, governments were scrambling to save lives but they suppressed easily accessed meds in order to help “big pharma” make money? Think about it. Governments are hardwired to get re-elected. Why would they intentionally shoot themselves in the foot by allowing millions to die in order to help “big pharma”? As soon as he started on that garbage I lost interest in anything he had to say.
He sounds like a miserable, bitter man because someone doesn’t agree with him. As for Cory and making money. Hello! He has a business and only a fool would sink his own business to make points with all those folks who hate being able to pay their bills. He has never tried to hide the fact that he is also a business man. You don’t have to pay for his advice. He makes tons of free content. I run healthy, thriving aquariums successfully on his advice. And, back to “big pharma”. As someone who suffers chronic migraines, my life would be $hit without nasty old “big pharma”. And, yes, I’ve tried every OTC remedy people have suggested. Only non migraine sufferers think they work. Or maybe there is a huge conspiracy to make me only think they don’t work so I will continue to support “big pharma”? The difference between these two men is that Cory simply said he wasn’t interested in this system. This man hurls personal insults BECAUSE Cory doesn’t use and promote HIS system. There’s a huge difference. I would pay to listen to Cory while I won’t listen to a rude, judgmental, a delusional person like this guy for free.
If it wasn't a dig at Novak, I don't know what is then. It was 100% beyond the shadow of a doubt, a DIG!!! And fyi......Wrong!!!!!!!!!!!......Cory is 100% in it for the money and NOTHING else. If he wasn't making money, I guarantee you'd never see another video from or hear anything from or about him ever again. I don't believe he was like that in the beginning, but he's definitely changed, and only has one thing on his mind now. Money changes people, and money makes some peoples ego grow to obnoxious levels......and that is what has happened to Cory unfortunately. If you've ever met the guy in person and talked to him, you can almost physically feel his inflated ego, and it's not very long while conversing with him to realize it's all ABOUT THE MONEY!!!
Well stated Dr. Novak! It's always better to address the cause of a problem than to treat the effects of the problem.
Just to add on here. I have been keeping aquariums for 45 years. Until watching Dr. Novak's videos over the last two weeks, I'd never heard of BCB baskets and plenums. Learning that I can have negative ions in the substrate and FULLY complete the nitrogen cycle naturally and reduce phosphate at the same time is exciting news! It has added a whole new dimension to aquarium keeping for me. With that said, Cory does have some great products and high-quality plants!
Cause Cory is not an expert in plenums and anoxic filters so he did refer it to other channels. I think it is quite normal
I guess you didn't hear the insult that he gave me by saying "he'd rather take his channel down before he would talk about an anoxic filtration system." But I guess you didn't hear that part so go back and revisit the video once again. What he said is a complete insult to somebody he doesn't even know.
It's a shame that only you and Father fish are truly educating us newcomers but at the same time I'm grateful for both your time and knowledge 🙏
I watched a bit of the aquarium co-op stream and I think all he said was he didn't want to do a whole show on anoxic filters and plenums because that would be boring for his viewers, but that if you are interested there are other youtubers who talk about it.
I'm not in the business but I do think it's a bit naive to think all they want is to just spend your money, because they also know that successful aquarists who aren't broke tend to stay in the hobby longer.
I guess you missed the part when he said he'd rather take down his TH-cam channel then even talk about it.
@@anoxicfiltrationplenums I think these large channels tend to prefer tell stories and 'connecting' rather than give specific advice because they need to stay popular with the largest common denominator in their subscribers. The same thing happened to DIY fishkeeping (although less so). They are past giving advice about this or that and I have never gotten anything useful from aquarium co-op myself. Anyway don't waste your subscribers. They came to you because they wanted to hear about your system (me included). Not speculate about aquarium co-op.
@@anoxicfiltrationplenums I guess you missed the part on his livestram the week before when he said at one point he had his entire warehouse on plenums. Then decided to go a different direction. He pointed to other youtubers like you at that point to tell this tale.
@@anoxicfiltrationplenums He said its boring thats why he said his channel talks about fun stuff pretty much my wife cant listen to this channel when i watch puts her to sleep
The science is interesting and I appreciate that you share this with us all but this video comes across like a forum post from 2008, there's my way and the wrong way. There are so many ways to achieve nutrieng export, many of which work absolutely fine and allow fish to flourish and thrive. You cite 25% and 90% success rates, where did these stats come from?
In his live chat I told people how to make frozen fish food much cheaper than buying the prepacks and his response was it would cost $80 to make it because of the time needed. Lolwot. It's one minute in a blender and one minute to spread it over a mould.
Funnily enough, I saw a video of his not long after where he was making up some Repashy gel. Took him so long he had to speed up the video!
In Venezuela, this is a crude story because it involves healthy animals, the whole pet industry from vendors to veterinarians promote lots of immoral practices, one in particular strikes me as one of the most hideous of all: The practice of killing aviary birds by crushing them against heavy objects when there is no demand; cockatiels, budgerigars, lovebirds, etc you name it. Just like the production of sacrificial animals for voodoo, just ugly stuff.
I remember in particular, when I was a kid, I was in a very high end aquarium shop that was renown in Caracas for trading with salt water and fresh water exotic fish (This is Venezuela when there was lots and lots of money everywhere), they even got a pet arawana that was like 1 m long; any way, I remember I was there and a lady apparently was there about to purchase some fish for her kid, obviously their first purchase, I clearly saw how the staff went along with them on the selection of the clown fish when clearly this was wealthy people with no education whatsoever in the hobby; I promptly warned the lady there were salt water fish and fresh water fish and that "you can't mix them up" (I didn't know about brackish water at that time) and so, the woman change her demeanor, she seemed to appreciate the advice, they would have swindle her and tarnish the experience of having fish in a catastrophic manner.
Just sad
a blogger on fish keeping here often preaches that he would stick on his practices based on his experience (for years that is actually working), versus subscribing to a research done by others. He may or may not referring to you, but I remember giving him links of your videos and showing him how I built plenum in my aquarium. I will not argue with them, but i know that scientific RESEARCH ere compilations of evaluated experience! :)
Your knowledge is very much appreciated.!
In response to some comments on this post
Dr Novak states its about the animals under our care and we have to do the very best to make sure they have a chance of survival
Yes other methods sometimes work but requires much more care and money .
I'm new to the hobby. Tanks are filled and I'll acquire fish in the very near future. I took my time and learned what I could from many different TH-camrs, and made a conclusion off of what made sense to me, which was under gravel filtration using a slow moving plenum. I even used an air pump you spoke about and have it set on the 10 second pulse. I asked you a question once and instead of answering it you told me to watch your videos. Initially it struck a nerve. Now I could've gotten an attitude, unsubscribed, etc, but I let it go. Maybe you're just busy. Cory has put forth a major effort to educate folk on the hobby. Of course it's his business which makes it a win for all parties involved. I see nothing wrong with him not being interested in anoxic filtration. It's his choice. There are many successful fish keeping methods. There are different approaches to fish keeping. Diversity is important. To say he doesn't care is misleading and wrong in my opinion and the narrative shouldn't be fed anymore than it has. We should be fair. We should be respectful. I appreciate the wisdom you've shared. Personally for me it's the way to go, but please don't enforce this negativity.
Filtration, beyond simple aeration, is necessary when an aquarium has too much 'load' (fish/snails/etc). Some could say adding filtration is where we go wrong.
Just a average joe here and certainly no expert but I’ve never been more successful using the plenum system. Haven’t done a freshwater tank yet but I have done saltwater and it’s phenomenal after getting settled in. I’ll never set up a tank without some sort of plenum system involved. Keep up the great work and informative information !
Hello Dr Novack
My name is Bill and I recently set a plenum in my 75, but Unfortunately I'm experiencing a bad stage of the uglies. I believe it is a form of cino bacteria and it's thriving. I've done a water change and vacuumed out most of what I could 1 week ago, but it came back. I've keeping aquariums since i was about 8 yrs old so I know in time it will pass.
I've watch most of your utube videos on plenums and BCB filtration so i'm aware it takes time for the tank to cycle. It just looks UGLY.. Thank you for providing the hobby with the information even thou many of us are not willing to listen.
Thank you again
Bill
PS
I'd sent a photo of my tank, but am unable to
figure out how to thru this forum. Just not techy enough ..
There could be several reasons why you're getting the algae like you are. Lights are on way too long and therefore you have more nutrient makers than users at the moment. Also I have found out the kind of lights you were using can really make a difference on the kind of algae you grow in your aquarium.
@@anoxicfiltrationplenums Dr Novack thank you for your response.. i understand there a numerous reason for my algea uglies. I recently watched one of your videos describing water movement varies thru the plenum based on density of the substrate. And since my base layer is play sand, than kitty liter, followed by laminite. than eco- complete and finally the original gravel from my tear down, so its quite dense. As you mentioned increase the air flow thru plenum to get move water movement thru the plenum. I tested my phosphate level, it is 2.0. I want to get it even lower so I added Fluval;s clearmax bags to the hang on the back filter to add in posphate removal.. Also the lights on my 75 gal are the Asta 120 lights and as you suggested in another recent video,. I reduced light hours to 6.. So hopefully these changes will improve my tanks situation.. I hope so anyway, because I have waiting for their new in a 40 gal breeder. I probably could move them in n ow, but since the aalgea is still in charge at the moment, I think it would less stressful for the fish if they stay where they are for the time being since I'm working i daly trying to get as much aalgea as can. Again thank you for your very informative videos...
I asked Cory to tell me what he knows about Anoxic Filtration on one of the member streams recently. He’s not interested because the AFS isn’t what’s easy for the hobbyist and takes a while to get going. He’s all about taking what’s readily available and making it easier. He did say that the AFS has a cult like following LOL
I've been hearing this excuse for almost 40 years now and it's getting pretty lame don't you think? I show in my videos where I set up an aquariums and immediately put fish in without any problems. So I guess what he is saying has been debunked continuously. But you're forgetting that when hobbiest are successful they don't keep buying things from fish stores anymore. When you don't buy things from people like Cory he doesn't make any money. It's almost like gambling in Vegas they want you to win a little to keep you coming back but they really don't want you to win a lot so you never come back.
Alana Balloon, Cory has a cult like following too.
@@anoxicfiltrationplenums The same is true for many things. The doctor doesn't make money if she cures you. The doctor makes money when she treats you. Organic gardening is another example. It's far better in the long run but it may not get immediate results as would be had using pesticides and chemicals which make up a huge industry.
Thank you for being so genuine and conscientious in making these videos.
Sir, I have two uniquariums could you suggest a way to convert to anoxic filtration !
When I heard Cory say that I thought.....Uh Oh. Using a under gravel filter plate as a slow-moving plenum couldn't be easier. Figuring out how to get a dirty sponge filter out without getting the schmutz everywhere, that's not so easy. Yes, I know you can use a plastic bag. Then actually getting it clean. Cory said that when designing his line of sponge filters (one of his main money makers) he specifically chose coarse sponge so it wouldn't clog as fast. Because he was getting carpal tunnel syndrome from squeezing sponge filters.
There are a lot of advantages to using the anoxic system. The 17 tanks I have setup this way are rock solid parameter wise. I like the minimalist look, no bulky filter inside the tank. It is possible to have almost no flow. Or accessorize to create the right amount of flow. Air driven just like the sponge filter with those same advantages. Much more filtering capacity using no extra space. Less frequent water changes. It doesn’t take months to establish like some people say. The system is designed to take the cycle all the way to N2. Which will gas off. The end product of a sponge filter is nitrate, which means, water changes. I’ve had excellent results with my plants as well. Maybe Cory should work on designing the best UG filter optimized for use as a slow-moving plenum?
I appreciate your teachings. Smile My tanks are doing well.
I think that Cory from Aquarium Co Op is very informative about every thing he explains and that one guy that got the ?? Well I think Cory had a herd day OK 👍
In the early day's i watched Cory a lot. They kind of lost me when i did not agree an airpump is an absolute neccesity.... Meanwhile over here in The Netherlands it is not common too see them with the more experienced keeper...
👏👏👏I watched the Aquarium COOP stream yesterday and totally agree with what this person states. Most of the TH-camrs will not discuss anoxic filtration. They have been branded by coop to push their products. I was so disgusted by his last two streams. Nothing but talking business and selling. Not much discussion about fish and fish health. I decided then to cancel my membership and unsubscribe. I will be doing this to some other channels as well. If it wasn’t for you speaking out I would totally delete Google off of all my devices anyway. Keep speaking the truth and I hope you don’t get censured. Much respect to you! 👌👌👌✨
It's not only that but he insulted me by saying" he'd rather take his channel down before he would talk about anoxic filtration system." If that isn"t a slap in the face then I don't know what it is.
@@anoxicfiltrationplenums yes that was a slap in the face, not only to you but anyone else who wants to learn and the people who have tried anoxic filtration. As for me, my two tanks I have set up are clicking right on along. My nitrates are dropping very well. I don’t recall the full nitrogen cycle ever being discussed either, just continuous water changes to lower nitrates. As for me it is working. I have two more tanks to set up in the near future.
Whenever science turns on capital, guess which one loses? No matter the field, science will lose when opposed to profit interests. I've seen this time and again in other fields where I participate.
I have set up 20 gallon planted freshwater fish tank with plenum and BCB with ADA natural river gravel. It is 3 months old. The other water parameters except ph seems to be falling in acceptable limits. The ph has been rising from 7.4 to 8.2 .Request advice on methods to control it.
The natural river gravel may be contributing to the rising pH levels. Limestone, which can be common in natural gravel, will raise pH. Try this: put some gravel in a cup and add R.O. or distilled water and leave for a day or two. Measure the pH and see if it differs from the original water. That will tell you if the gravel is doing it.
Great title. Sounded like Jack Nicholson from the movie, A Few Good Men, when he said: You Can't Handle the Truth.
Why not reach out to him publicly and say you’d like to have this conversation with him on a livestream? Do it as a community post or a video and at him and the other people in his sphere. What harm would that do to you in suggesting that option? Then you can say I tried to have this conversation with him about it but he refused. But at least give him the ability to reject learning about it from you. He values his time highly and might not be able to watch or read all the information you or others have put out. If he can learn and still have a normal livestream it might make him more willing to consider learning as it isn’t cutting into his time during the day but rather a natural part of it.
Been there done it. I have reached out to people and the most they come back with "not interested". And this has been going on for 40 years now.
most intelligent people listen more than they talk........this guy talks and talks and talks and talks.............he obviously hasn't watched many of coreys videos or he would know that corey made the money because he cares about the fish and keepers .....
Corey cares about one thing and one thing only money. How much money can he make to provide for him and his family. If you believe anything more than that, then you believe in the Easter bunny in Santa clause. If this guy cared so much about fish as you claim, he would embrace all new technology out there and try to teach his constituents this new technology instead of making the claim that he'd rather close down his entire TH-cam channel before he would learn anything about the anoxic filtration system. In other words, he would rather remain obtuse to what is being taught in our universities and colleges. That does not sound to me like a person who gives a rats behind about his fish, and how much he cares about the hobbiest. Don't come on my channel spewing, all this garbage out of your mouth about somebody who can care less about anything except money, and how much money he's going to make in the future. Because he surely doesn't care about the fish and the animals we keeps and what is being taught in our universities and colleges.
Seriously not a video you should have made. Videos like this are a huge turn-off.
Then don't watch them...seriously!
Don't watch it then....simple as that!!!! Leave and never come back....
As much as I enjoy the co op I can’t help but agree that more hobbyists should be educated about all methods of filtration. Anoxic filters should at the very least be talked about more. I work at a petsmart, selling fish and critters to the general public. The lack of information and maximizing profit is the norm. There has always been a huge problem in the fish hobby of lack of information. I agree we should do the best for any animal in our care.
Also for a company dead set on the planted tank idea, anoxic filters and plenums would be a great practice to push, but I guess when your substrate gets filled with gas you’ll be coming back to the Co-op for more substrate and ferts…
Your journey into "alternate treatments" (the monoclonal antibodies do show some effectiveness against some strains .. all the others (malaria treatment, horse wormer etc) show no efficy in the treatment of covid) basically invalidates anything else you have to say about pretty much anything. Once again you prove the "smart people can still be dumb" hypothesis.
You're absolutely wrong and your analysis of ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. These have been proven throughout the entire world to work it's just that you're drinking the Kool-Aid of the medium that is advocating that they do not work. This is all because big Pharma likes it that way. Like they say: "stupid is stupid does," so quit drinking the Kool-Aid and start educating yourself on these drugs that are out there. In India they use ivermectin as a treatment for Covid so I guess 1.5 billion people are wrong and you're right. But you never hear about that on the news. Educate yourself !
Smith pls read the article German insurance company Fires CEO for releasing COVID vaccine injury data
Cassandra smith ivermectin was invented by scientists for human consumption first. Then it was learned it could be and is used for other treatments with great success and could be also used as a dewormer for horses and other animals. You can look it up yourself if you want the true facts. The true stupid people can also look up scientific data on Covid from many countries that has been compiled by actual doctors and scientists and is peer reviewed. It is not what you are hearing from the US government and mainstream media.
Cory has said on many streams he hates doing streams but they make money. He is burnt out majorly from this business. He seems to like chasing the projects, probably both because projects and set ups are fun and because it can drive sales. He doesn't sell fish online and doesn't seem to sell much in terms of filtration online. But that's not to say it wouldnt impact his advertisers and supply chain. He comes off just very burnt out but perks up on the projects but never the theories. Even his legislative view recently seems to be opinion that gets influencer money now rather than long term care of fish and habitats.
Thank you for all the education sir 🙏
Can I run this idea, across you. I’m going to cut underground filter down to half inche.
Put 1 inche layer of soil on top of underground filter
Add 1 inche of cat litter and laterite.
Another layer of desired gravel.
Could that possibly work?
I probably missed it but why did you add a canister filter to the large tank when you were using an anoxic filter system. Thanks Fred O
The canister is for mechanical filtration and it also does some biological.
@@anoxicfiltrationplenums Thanks Fred O
Yes if someone responds like that then they know it works. I knew about plenums 3 years before I decided to try one, it was new to me I never heard of it before. I kept the receipts for my expenditure over 1 year an I spent 1200.00. now with the plenums I spend next to nothing. when I first heard about plenums I thought it was to good to be true but as the years went by I found that there was always something wrong with my water or fish were getting sick etc. I nearly threw in the towel an thought lets give it a go what the worse that could happen? 8 months later it was the best decision I've made in a while :)
I'm glad you are letting everybody know your experience. You're not the only one and that boat of failures one after another.
Do you even hear yourself? Seriously. My suggestion… you want people to listen your views or try new systems/different ways to do things yet you are noxious and did zero research before spouting off. This entire video is an oxymoron.
All I can say if you can prove me wrong by any research that you have done please enlighten me? Because what I talk about is being taught in our universities and colleges and it falls under the classification of waste water management. But of course you know more than our colleges and universities so please enlighten all the people that are listening to my videos how smart you are and what an intelligent individual you are and show us the facts, not anecdotal hearsay or opinions, but the scientific facts that back up what you do and/or say. Then after you do that please come up with any public aquarium/s that is out there that condones anything that you implement in your aquarium.
I challenge you not to look stupid in front of everybody but you go ahead and put your foot in your mouth. Oh, please give me the name/s of the universities that have done the scientific research and the professors names because I will contact them to double check.
It is sometimes better to be thought of as a fool, than to open one's mouth and relieve all doubt.
@@anoxicfiltrationplenums you misunderstood me. I don’t believe you’re wrong at all. My objection is your lack of understanding of what Corey said. There are many ways to achieve a result. Your way is one of the correct ways.
Hello Dr. Novak.
Ive been in aquarium hobby for around 20 years.
Even here in India the aquarium trade is only concerned with profit.
A renowned youtuber when asked about the idea of plenum and anoxic filtration, replied that it is waste of money.
They are more interested in selling ADA products which ask for heavy premium.
Here in India it is very difficult to find under gravel filters and traders are more interested in selling cheap quality China products like canisters, top or submursible filters.
I had ordered and already paid for under gravel filter from China, however it has been over two months and have not recived the same.
These things and high prices are the things that deter people from this hobby in India.
Love your videos.
You're absolutely right sir. When I moved to India my husband got an aquarium for me because I always loved keeping fish. It's one of those RS Electrical kit aquariums and it only has a built in top filter for filter floss and no biological filtration. All my other aquariums I built my own filters that used gravel for biological filtration and I never had my fishes die like they did in this new tank.
You're right, they're only concerned about selling more fish and supplies without a thought of keeping them alive and healthy. So when I realised the problem I made my own undergravel filter plate from a scrap piece of 4“ pvc water pipe and sawed slits all over it then opened it up using heat from the stove and made it into a plenum for my tank. If you don't have some form of biological filtration to clean up the toxic waste created by the fish, they will always keep getting sick and dying.
you can also make your own plenum with the plastic mesh they use for arts and crafts/knitting, that's how I made them
Agreed Mrs Singh. I'm from Mumbai and it has pained me to go see the hobby and its ways people only keep coming to replace the fish they lost and even then the same shopkeeper tells him to buy the same fish saying this particular neon tetra are hardy but there are also a few stores scattered around the city where the shop owner is a hobbyist like us and always guide their customer to the right fish choices according to their tank size whether they are ok with each other and budget too and always promote dirted planted tank with mix of cheap fast growing and slow growing plants instead of plastic ones. I truly pray these kind of people increase in number
i got undergravel filter on amazon for 200rs set it up on a 4 foot tank works amazingly well.
I had a friend who managed a huge fish department... I mean a few hundred large aquariums. And his expertise was keeping thousands of fish alive for a very short period of time, basically until they were sold, beyond that he usually called me for advise. His filter system included huge vats of fluidized sand, with massive 5 hp motors driving them, a rack of 4 foot UV sterilizers and protein skimmers, and a constant fresh water feed and exchange system that was designed by another friend of mine. There was nothing he was doing that the average home hobbyist was likely to learn from. Just because you sell fish doesn't mean you know how to actually keep fish long term in a real life home aquarium.
And to be entirely honest, I'm sure Cory doesn't care about an anoxic system... For various reasons, it would be very hard to implement in a high volume large pet shop. In any case it's a lot harder than a central water change system and a few sponge filters. As a breeder, I sometimes have to knock down, bleach out and set up small aquariums on the fly which isn't necessarily conducive to a standard anoxic system either. But I am working on it.
I think myself that people expect more from Cory that's such a terrible answer that he gave on his live stream. That is exactly why individuals are complaining because they really thought he would help educate them and push them forward to the next level of aquarium keeping. Unfortunately they have been disenchanted by his channel when he did that and that is the only reason I got their complaints. People are no longer zombies and will follow their masters no matter what they say. They want to be educated to the point that they can understand what they're doing and why they're doing it and they want to see others become successful because they do care about the fish and about how much money they spent on their aquariums.
Anoxic filtration is easily setup even in multiple tank setups as you can simply layer the substrate once and never look back. I would say every fish store should have them...even if central filtration is used, it can STILL be implemented very easily. It really doesn't take a lot of expertise to do this.
@@GSP-76 Pet shops have to tear down and set up aquariums on the fly. Sometimes they need to bleach out a tank that gets diseased fish. Basic glass boxes with a good central filter and auto water change, is reasonable when you don't intend to keep any fish in the store for more than a few days.
OMG. You are overreacting to a simple comment that he had no interest in making an entire show about anoxic filtration. Corey has said in the past he isn't a great fan of canister filters either. I don't remember anyone getting all upset about that. After watching your show I think you are in the your way or the highway mode. Corey didnt say it was a bad system or insult anyone who wanted it. He does represent a business venture and if he thinks it would be a boring show and he isnt interested and would not make money for Aquarium coop then good for him. You sound jealous. Perhaps you could try making a video about Anoxic filtration that isn't boring.
Saying: you will shut down your channel, than talking about something; that's a pretty adamant statement of anger. He doesn't need somebody like you to fight his battles but then again, if you want to kneel and kisses his ring that's entirely up to you. You can see through his past videos, and his present ones that he cares about nothing except the Benjamins now.
Hi Dr. Novak, I just recently began viewing your videos, I've watched videos of Cory's as well as many other fish tubers. I've even started my own channel ( more for fun then anything else but that's not the point). Anyway, just like with any other area of life everyone is entitled to their opinion, it doesn't make their choices 100% right or wrong. I don't believe that his statement shows him to be for profit only BUT in terms of the fact that he does run a business things are going to be profit first or profit forward. I totally agree with you that the animals care should always come first , however, filtration is not a one size fits all situation. For Cory, anoxic filtration systems are not something he is interested in. He believes that his viewers are not interested in seeing it. That's where creators like you come in. For the hobbyists that WANT to know more about the science behind it. At the end of the day it's important for us all to respect each other's experiences and ideas even if we disagree. Could Cory have been more tactful in his statement, absolutely.
Even if he had no interest in it, he literally said that in a condescending tone by saying "if you're the 0.02% that cares about that"...that was just crass behavior...and it highlights how little he actually knows about the hobby.
Ok, anoxic filtration system or other methods are working, and easy.... So Maybe if it becomes more popular, then this fish store guy and others like him start to think differently, usually that's how foolish persons act
That number is not likely to be far from the reality. In my country i never seen anyone do it. So i think the statement might be harsh but its the truth
Sir. Please stop. What you say *may* be true, but berating a fellow content creator by name on a public forum is disgraceful! You’ve lost this subscriber.
I'm sorry you feel that way, goodbye.
Good riddance!!!!!!
Doc, you claim I'm going to have a 25 percent success ratio using traditional filtration methods! Really? I have 55 years in this hobby and I'm calling BS. UG filters are great with the right fish but that leaves a lot of species out.
Cory's comment was simply to deflect a conversation he didn't want to have at that point in time, nothing more. Instead of trying to divide you fish keepers over this non issue you should be trying to find common ground for the betterment of the hobby.
I don't make up the statistics these are the facts whether you like them or not . You have a right to your own opinion but you don't have a right to your own facts. You have a 25% chance of success doing it that way. If you're one of the lucky ones great but you are an exception to the rule not the rule.
@@anoxicfiltrationplenums Where do you get the statistics? Is there a double blind study you can point to? Over my many years in the hobby I have set up hundreds of aquariums and after normal cycling all have been long term successful. If you understand how odds are calculated that makes me unrealistically lucky.
The truth is simple, there are many ways to run a tank and have it be successful.
@@richardmason3751 90% of all statistics are made up on the spot
I love that you are so open and honest about the reality of the pandemic 👍🍁
My wife was fired 2yrs ago as an ICU nures in Canada
I appreciate what you have done for this hobby 🙌🐟🐠🐡🐚🦠
Cory is like all of us. Trying to retire at 40.
Hahaha Hahaha oops your on point
I need to find a very Leman's explanation. I know what Anaerobic filtration is and thought this meant the same thing but apparently this is a bit different.
Well I must say you said it all. I watched same video, when Corey said what he said I went what?. So started it again. Yup that's what he said. I was very disappointed. I started watching aquarium Co op when I came back into hobby and set an aquarium up just like Corey and the rest of the hobby does it, well you guessed it, it was a disaster. Then I watched your videos, when nothing but success. In all honesty Corey did mention about undergravel filters and how he wanted to do some experiments with them. But that was in another video a long time ago. Thank you for your time and energy in putting these videos out, let's hope the industry changes for the better.
Like I said my video this wasn't me complaining this was another hobbiest that sent me emails complaining. Personally I don't care what he exactly says it doesn't bother me but I decided to do a video and speak up for those hobbiest that need to have their voices heard.
Congrats for the 10k subbies! 👏
Thank you!! 😊
Aardvarks make terrible house pets. All humor aside, there is so much misinformation online. I’ve kept aquariums off and on for over 60 years. Currently I have a small aquarium with a slow moving plenum that I made with water column plants and a single beta, it’s self sustaining, other than feeding its trouble free and always beautiful.
Please share it on your channel if can sir ❤️
“ BRAVO Dr.Novak “ .. !!!
What a stink this video has made. A lot of people are talking about this, even other You Tube channels. If I owned an aquarium store, I would get with You and see if we could make like a kit to sell. Stores could make a mint.
It's a shame that people are making such a big stink out of it. But for someone to literally say they would rather close down their TH-cam channel than talk about something that could benefit the hobby is really going a little too far.
@@anoxicfiltrationplenums totally agree 🎉 My jaw hit the ground when he said that, 😮 Wow
I watched a lot of Aquarium Co-Op videos and respected Corey a lot...that take he had on anoxic filtration really came off more childish and something more indicative of someone who is a more casual fishkeeper... definitely not someone with a fish store and 800k subscribers.
Like I said, it wasn't me that complained about it, it was another viewer that watches his channel that complained about him. And you're absolutely right in your analysis.
@@anoxicfiltrationplenums Your plenums are extremely easy to do and costs are extremely cheap... knocking on it makes no sense. It really saves fishkeepers a lot of grief and makes the hobby more enjoyable.
@@anoxicfiltrationplenums You may have not said it directly, but you certainly appreciate to be endorsing their statements by spreading them as far as possible. Doing this appears as a passive aggressive jab at bigger hobbyists/industry people who don’t share your view that anoxic filtration is the only acceptable form of proper filtration, which simply isn’t the case.
I’ve tried your method and I like it. I look forward to expanding it into more of my tanks…… and I’m a COOP fan too.
Hurray Dr. I have been waiting and wondering when "this" cat was let out of the bag.
It's kinda funny that I am and will continue to be a customer of Cory's, I love his products and knowledge of fish and needed products. However, I also love to have a healthy and thriving system, and that my friend is what you teach. Again, have a great day and keep up the great work.
Well said Dr.Novak, seems like TH-cam throws serious money at these so-called experts when they get several hundred subscribers or more, you can bet Cory is laughing all the way to the bank, you deserve One Millon subscribers, the information you provide is priceless. Keep up the good work.
Ive been saying this about cory for at least a year now. I think on this channel at one time but many other channel. He did the same to u and father fish. U are right on about him. If he can't sell anything he don't like it. I will go to Las and pay double rather than buy from him.
I do not badmouth other people's channels I leave them to their own devices. But I also don't make a comment that what they're doing is so bad that I don't want to talk about it that I would close down my channel like Cory has stated on his channel.
now I want a hippopotamus...
How about the Aardvark they make nice pets?
Hi doc. Don’t get irritated with those nay saiders. I made the cheapest bcb bag about 2 months ago and nitrates seem to be going down. I have try other expansive mediums. but this cat litter may be the best medium I have used.
Dr.Kevin Novak, That's is very common practice for every business people. Profits is the main important consideration when you have 1000 employee compared to just few employee because they need to make the business sustainable in order to survive. This is the nature of every type of business. Business owner always very hard to make decision to choose the right path. Same issue in medical business, manufacturer only create medicine for patients to survive and not to cure the illness.
Don't even try to defend the medical industry at any level
Read the article German insurance company fires CEO who released COVID vaccine INJURY data then scrubs data from website
Lol this guy is an ivermectin conspiracy theorist and we are suppose to take him seriously? What's your doctorate in?
Ivermectin does work if it is used early enough and Paxlovid is a derivative of ivermectin which means that Ivermectins patents have run out. So now they had to hurry up and make a new drug to take its place basically the same as the old drug but now for use under Emergency use authorization. Oh, and by the way it cost five times more than one ivermectin would it cost.
I took it when I got the you-know-what and it definitely helped. Recovered faster than other family members who got it around the same time
I don't believe Corey,Aquarium co op ONLY cares for money. He did say that though. You have also said there is always more than one way to do things. Some People don't take well to change if they believe their way is successful. He weekly answers viewers questions to help with the hobby. For some, there is more than one way to be successful in fish keeping so change is questionable, that's all
A big thumbs up. 👍.
Corey has worked very hard to create the coop and fair play to him.
However I feel. Like I'm listining to a business man complaining about the multitude of problems to overcome on a daily bases.
So as an avid hobbiest there's a real feel good factor watching vids such as yours. Feels like I'm in a club
Tip my hat to you sir discus are loving your filter. 2 tanks and my pond we all dip in to. To me it's sustaining plant life then you'll do excellent with your fish just my 2 cents worth lol
Wow, saw Cory's clip, at first I thought you were exaggerating. But he actually said he would take down his channel before talking about anoxic filtration, and it was too boring to talk about. Just sad.
I'm boggled by peoples hate for anoxic filtration. Here is something that can improve the quality of life for your fish, make the hobby easier, and people just put it down.
Keep spreading the the word Novak, don't let the haters get you down.
It seems like a few people have missed that very critical part of the insults that he gives to me. And I should just overlook such an insult and let him do anything he wants to other TH-cam channels.
@@anoxicfiltrationplenumshe didn't even mention you. How is that an insult?
this guy is cringe. enough said
I'm bemused by your statement. So you feel awkward or uncomfortable about watching my videos? LOL!
I pray Almighty that one day the co- op would be one of your small outlets. It does not take time to change. People who were searching for science will take rest at your door step.
Lol you’re wearing a shirt I designed 😜 Voyage by Craft+Flow
Really it's a Floridan shirt
@@anoxicfiltrationplenums ya we ship to Ross which is everywhere
The majority of Cory's audience are beginner fish keepers, and cory markets fishkeeping as easy. It obviously hurts his bottom line to discuss these kinds of complexities, which contradicts his marketing message.
After watching that Corey guy for the first time a while back after two minutes I realized his baseline story which sums "the one who's spending is bestie"
I guess I'm also disappointed . I'm no longer a member of the coop. He sells good plants but that's about it. Science is the key to success. Animal husbandry is top priority. Haven't lost 1 fish, just lucky I guess. Put my substrate right on the bottom of my tank. Your tanks talk for themselves. I believe a plenum is in my future. Already made up my bcb for the canister. Thank you for the science behind your work.
alex is questioning you calling yourself Dr. Novak on his live stream. personally i don't care but i think its low how far these people will go to try to smear someone with good information.
Dr. Novak has a point. When you ask questions about maintaining fish and plants, you get very little information, even from a good LFS. They will be happy to sell you more fish and plants when they fail. Thank you, Dr. Novak, for saying what needs to be said. I would like to try your method on my 10 gallon Tank and, if successful, trying on my larger tank.
Indeed, disappointment is the final result watching commercial channels. You finish with your cabinet full of useless things and you feel you have lost control of the tank. That's the moment when you're prepared to study the science related to aquariums. Sadly, many people leave the hobby. Regards
I guess this is why I was informed about his channel. People want to be successful and not failures and keep buying product after product thinking that it will work for them. They want to get the right information to do the right thing to save their fishes lives. Not buy another product that may or may not work.
I agree , I was disappointed to see he dismissed it as boring! For me I researched the crap out of filtration, obviously it is one of the most important parts of keeping a healthy aquarium, so I’m sure if he would endorse it sooo many people would have so much more success in keeping healthy aquariums , especially with that many subscribers. I keep goldfish so I need a good filtration system so I for one am very thankful to have found your channel, I look forward to any video you bring out to find out more, To the point I have to go back and rewatch your videos lol.
I was also interested in your videos where you show how to make the chemi pure bags as well as bcb bags etc so if you have any other ideas that will help our nitrates I am all ears. Plants are great but I love to hear how nature provides what we need if we understand how it all works and what conditions we need to provide the correct conditions for nature to do it thing.
I have been looking for those beads you can use in those bags but I cannot find them anywhere. I’m not sure if the name, macro beads ? Do they also help , I would be interested in more on how those things work? Is that what they use in chemi pure or purigen? Those little bags you can buy about $40 here in Australia very expensive for a little bag, so if you know how to make those I would love to see a video on that.
But I’m only one little stalker of yours lol 😂
Keep your videos comming. 🙏🏼
Ps I totally agree about this dam pandemic as well. The money they made off this vaccine is crazy but that’s unfortunately how the world works now, all about the money 😞😞
let's be nice and let the information speak for itself everyone...I understand these people are in 'business' to sell their product as are many others in countless other businesses. Profit is the bottom line for many. Just keep using your own minds people. No one needs to tear others down to build themselves up.
I agree, we should try to care for our animals as best as we can. I love animals and enjoy caring for them and even losing a fish makes me very sad and feel like I'm a failure. It happened when I lost my two blue gouramis to an ammonia spike when I tried to use the dirted tank method and was promised that system was the best and most natural. I felt terrible when it crashed and dug into more research on why it crashed and how to prevent it from happening again when I found your videos on plenums and anoxic filtration so decided to try it out.
It hasn't been over a month and I'm already seeing good results with it. My mystery snails are laying eggs and my fish are having babies again. There's no more diseases I'm constantly fighting anymore and my fish are always active swimming around eating aquatic fana constantly.
So thank you Dr. Novak for sharing your knowledge and helping us build our system to keep our animals healthy and thriving. For every new tank I do I'll be using a plenum system because it's saved me so much headache and now I'm more confident I'll be able to care for these creatures better. 😊
I've been in this hobby for a very long time and dealt with the sale of fish for a very long time. However, the aquarium business depends on people coming back repetitively to their establishments to spend money otherwise what good is it they have a business if you can't buy a house and car and other luxury things that everybody else gets to buy. It's no different and the Pine hobby as the aquarium hobby. They want you to buy they're very expensive equipment and that's how they survive. There's no money in building an anoxic filtration system for your pond and then it last 30 or 40 years with little to no work.
Seeing a relatively prominent member of the YT community with "zero interest" in learning about something that could make our fish healthier, and as a result the people that own them happier... it's unfortunate. Sometimes it's the naivete of thinking that everybody else that's in your hobby has the same altruistic or good intentions for our pets. And it can suck to see the ugly reality that many people put personal profit in front of doing what's best for the animals and customers.
It's also sad how business and profit have become the rulers of our society. As mentioned in the absolute crime perpetrated against the American people by lying Big Pharma, Big Gubmint, Big Mainstream Media, and Big Tech regarding pedestrian, cheap options for treatment in covid that demonstrates the same if not better efficacy than the jabs. These are real human lives out here that have been adversely effected, and in some cases ended due to this evil.
Opinions are like Ass h%Les Everyone has one. I myself use BCB baskets and plenums and They do work.
ah so this is the next old fishtubers to die out. reminds me of king of DIY, through co-op's socialblade looks somewhat stable
No idea what you are saying
@@rexwater1 the secret history living in your aquarium did a live stream with the king of diy and it showed how much the king cares
Watched the video and was shocked on what he said. Okay Cory since using Dr. Novaks anoxic filtration system, guess what, I don't need anything from Aquarium-Coop to run my aquariums. Smoke that in your pipe Mr. Cory Co-Op.......
You can’t trust someone who can’t look after their teeth properly. Cory can’t
You are not the first one to say that I'm afraid.
Hahaha!
He said "I would delete my channel before I'd do that". Almost implying it's hogwash. Well Dental work of the magnitude he requires costs lots of money.
Sounds like he would lose his connections with companies and sponsors if he gets plenums and bcb filtration
Like I said this is a hobbyist that came up and complained. I do understand it is a double edge sword if somebody like him actually start showing a system that works and then people quit buying aquarium products because they are successful. I completely understand that.
@@anoxicfiltrationplenums i completely understand but it wouldn't stop people from buy filters. I was a little reluctant to try a plenum. I finally decided to make one for my 40 gallon. For the past 2 months that I've had it setup I've been seeing small changes. I still battle algae but isn't as bad as it used to. This past month I got really busy with work and got home too tired to do any maintenance on the tank and i did change water just recently. I checked water parameters beforehand and everything was fine. All my fish are fine they are always wanting to breed and my shrimp are always buried now. All in the little time that I've set it up.
Saw the video, right off the bat the guy goes off on his shenanigans.
Yeah I am glad that I never subscribed to his channel it is very noticeable that's he's about money more than anything else if he was really interested in the hobby he wouldn't have any issues trying it out, right? trying new things is a huge part of this hobby I believe and if trying something "new" doesn't make any harm why not?
i would think people who sell fish have a vested interest in selling more fish to their customers, which means the original fish must die and get replaced. the quicker they die, the more money is transacted to replace them. therefore misinformation is the basis for a profitable business. and selling accessories are also moneymakers. anyone who doesn't advocate using these accessories is looked at by the industry as a ''kook''. there is a fellow on ytube who has hundreds of tanks with no filtration and no aeration. his model is any typical pond which doesn't come with air or filters. the big guys have actually referred to him as ''eccentric'' even though his fish have lived for years.
Boom! Kevin dropping truth bombs across the gamut.
I started watching Aquarium Coops recently as I got back into the hobby. At first Corey sounds genuine, but after a while it doesn't make logical sense. Corey's method is a planted tank with deep substrate running minimum plant lights and no CO2. This is ineffective because plants use up nitrates most quickly when they are growing. Plants under low light that are just respiring can process only a little ammonium so Corey's method is really a tricky balancing act that revolves around minimum food, balancing light level with fertilizer, and type and quantity of fish being kept. These tanks always crash and the blame is always shifted to the newbie who doesn't have enough experience with planted tanks. It may seem harmless enough but stop and realize all the stuff you end up buying from him(or from his suggestions); Premium fish food, liquid fertilizers, root tabs, extra sponges and bio rings, plants, extra gravel, brine shrimp culture, snails, Amano shrimp, Otocinclus, water conditioners, fish medications etc..etc... and with water changes as needed. This was supposed to be the easy way but turns out way more complex than a plant-less Aquarium with charcoal and Ammonium pellets with water changes once a month.
To be fair, a lot of TH-camrs are sponsored or otherwise trying to sell you something. Nothing wrong with selling stuff. Just realize that is what is going on and he is not offering you the best choices or the best affordable options - he ultimately wants to sell his stuff to make money.
I do like Dean but he is not really Aquarium Coops. He knows his stuff, shows a lot of affordable DIY and is upfront when he plugs a commercial for Coops.
It's all a lie
It's a 2 hour video just to celebrate 800k viewers 🙄