I just shot my Norinco M 305 with my Archangel Stock. I shot it with the original stock when I first got is. Comparing the two experiences, I just loved it with the Archangel Stock. It shot pretty good with the original stock, other than a sore shoulder. The shooting accuracy I believe improved with the Archangel. I would highly recommend it!
I just got mine this week. So easy to install didn't even take 10 min to install. Accuracy is a bit better. But most of all it's more comfortable to shoot. All in all i very highly recommend it. Keep shooting and be safe
Very interesting... I see you have your M305 SOCOM installed in that stock...awesome. I have my SOCOM in a GI fibreglass stock and it's certainly okay, but maybe this would be fun too...
Excellent video. You certainly understand videography and how to narrate a video. I get so tired of watching videos where the person can't even keep the piece of equipment in the camera frame. Anyway, I look forward to your other videos.
Well done. I have a scout squad in wood and a socom 16 in polymer. I was on the fence about getting a loaded with this stock vs the traditional. I think you did it form me. Just ordered it in fde.
I love it, greets from France. My next buy is gonna be a Archangel Mosin Nagant stock and then for less than 1000€/$, i'll have a perfect "Sniper" riffle!
An allen key or two for scope tightening, a couple batteries for a scope, a small oiler of CLP and a boresnake. Pretty sure you could fit all of those in that little compartment.
Check the gas cylinder at or near the area of the forward sling stud. On my stock the sling swivel stud had made contact with the cylinder. The stud threads in too far and is quite sharp. I removed the stud. Just an FYI.
grate vid. with scope and mag mine came to 14lb witch was a bit much for the hunting I do. but its a grate range gun , or run and gun. would like to see this stock on a 10/22 , I bet the balance will feel very cool
How is the Promag Archangel stock holding up? That stock seems to get a lot of criticism from the folks who adhere to McMillan, JAE, or Blackfeather stocks/chassis. They speculate that the fit will loosen over time and repeated recoil, POI will wander, and groups will open up.
Horace, the package comes with a "compliance" addition to the pistol grip right in with the stock. If there is a problem you simply install that and no more issue!
Considering the price, and how little there is to the stock (not necessarily a bad thing mind you) I would expect the fit/finish to be a bit better.... at about 5:25 when the camera is zoomed in on the front sling swivel, you can see a lot of plastic that seeped out of the seem of the 2 halves of the mold. No its not a super big deal, but for the price I would expect that kind of thing to be touched up...
Hello, Great Video btw, very well spoken and informative. I really like the stock but Canada Ammo is all out. Do you know where else I can purchase one from within Canada?
These must fluctuate in prices quite a bit. You mentioned $300, someone mentioned $115, $145, and I found the best price at I think opticsplanet for $220. The original website manufacturer has them for over $300!!! $346 I think. $220 was the best price I could find otherwise they're around $230-260 at other places. I'm in California and just waited 12 days for the rifle to ship BEFORE my 10 day cool down period. God I hate this state. Anyways, I did get the stock in and it looks so much better in person. I was kind of expecting a nice looking stock, plastic, kind of flimsy. Boy oh boy I was wrong. That stock is TOUGH, I mean tough. The only bad thing I don't like is the mold lines found around the stock. Otherwise, this thing is beautiful. Very good choice for stocks. The adjustable butt stock is a bit tough to adjust but the cheak riser isn't so bad. I think I like that too because it makes feel more quality. Anyways, I'm excited 😁 going to play with the peep sight before my scope comes in stock next month. Oh man I can't wait!!!
my concern is the weight. I have a scout squad and I want it to be as light as possible. I love the idea of this stock, but it seems to be more for a precision rifle, not something you would use for a run and gun. what are your guy's thoughts on that? Is it too heavy for say a hunter?
wish they would add some of the features and nice things that the real JAE-100s have on them especially since the company that makes them isn't around anymore.
Richie Erueti I would imagine you are looking in the right direction where the only thing attaching the receiver and barrel to the stock is the trigger group. there are certainly custom upgrades you could design to make this stock even better.
+Rickervision Don't forget the plate covers the end of the stock by the gas cylinder. Not sure I like not free floating the barrel, but there really isn't a choice. Keith
Jordan Pike Never really did any quantitative testing one accuracy improvement. I can say it has all the necessities to make the gun work better for sure!
lol,... obviously you'll need to either machine out the area for the switch at the rear right of the action or have a qualified person do it for you Mr. Vinicius. That would be a nice rig for sure!
That's a big negative on that question, although if you watch some of the circa 1960's military training videos on the M14 you'll see that the guys that trained a lot on that weapon in full auto could work 'em pretty well. Of course back then, the AAM1A didn't even exist...
@@viniciussurkamp6633 That's an interesting question, but I don't think "controllability" is what someone should be after when they purchase a new stock for any rifle. Of course that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before lol. I replaced the gorgeous walnut stock with this AAM1A for several reasons: 1) Adjustability- the system I'm putting together incorporates a scope, so I like to be able to adjust the comb as needed and the length of pull so I'm able to get my eye relief absolutely perfect. 2) I prefer the QD (quick detach) strap lock configuration on this stock being ambidextrous (I shoot long guns left-handed). 3) The Fiber reinforced Nylon is impervious to the elements where wood is not. This also makes the weapon 4) lighter. 5) Having the extra mounting rail on the bottom is sweet... and most of all 6) Improved longer range precision. This Scout Squad will now put rounds down range a bit more consistently than with the wood stock because of the improved fit of the AAM1A stock.
what about adding weight to the storage compartment. I find my M1A scout a little front heavy. Thinking weight in the hand grip might help with balance. Anybody try that or does this stock already improve the balance enough?
M1a stocks need to be tight. dont cut the stock or anything unless you absolutely have to. Dont ever take the stock on and off. If these stocks are not in use or storage keep the spacer pieces in it because over time these stocks will "mold" around your receiver. If theres nothing inside, it will shrink and make it difficult to get your receiver back in and/or make it not fit right.
Hi there, nice video. just wondering if you have any issue misfire after you upgrade your stock? I am having misfire lately and its not just the ammo co'z I tried different ammo and seem the same. The firing pin is not hammering properly and I can see very little dent compare to the other. I wonder if you can shoot me some advice. Thanks
Joe Cris I had absolutely no change in the movement of the hammer or firing pin. clean and oil the rifle really well, make sure there's no obstruction slowing down the firing pin. Realistically the stock is just a exoskeleton. Should have no effect on the internals.
DEFINITELY BADASS RIFLE GONNA GET ONE MAYBE TWO ONE IN BLACK ONNE IN GREEN AND MAYBE OVERKILL DESERT BEIGE JUST TO BE ABLE TO COORDINATE WITH DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTS RIGHT L😂L GOOOOO MINUTE MEN
LostHeretic "Prevent your hand from sitting in an ilegal configuration." I hate my bloody state. They even want control over the way I hold my rifle. Lol.
what do you mean? I just use the rail that is built into the stock. I'm not a fan of polymer rubbing on my metal bipod but so far it seems solid. if you mean adding additional rails I havent done that but if you wanted to do that it would have to be attached from the outside.
Unfortunately I really can't say I did any real measurement of accuracy increase. However just based on the ergonomics, you can attach a bipod and the stiffness of the stock, I would imagine it would only help if you were doing some long range shooting.
+webster7710 I have been examining all factors RE accuracy with My M1A and the Archangel did not adversely affect nor dramatically improve accuracy. It DID make it easier to shoot, as the factory furniture had no support for my cheek even with a strap on pad. My Nikon M308 scope however seemed to be an issue, as when I replaced it with a Leopold, the groups became smaller and more consistent. Sierra Match King 168 grain bullets are the best I have found so far (1.25 to 2" groups at 100 yards). They shoot better than Berger or the Sierra Polymer Tip (3.5 and 4" respectively). The worst was the Sierra Game King Hollow points (4-5"). Now I will be tweaking the powder charge a little to see what that does. Be aware that if you have a Harris bipod (6-9") that attaches to the front sling swivel, it will still work with the factory swivel on the Archangel. The bipod wil project significantly forward at about 45 degrees or so, but it doesn't shoot any worse than off a bench rest. It does help to place the bipod legs on a smooth, flat surface however. I suspect that applies to all bipods to minimize bounce. Not only does it look good deployed, but when folded up, the legs bracket the barrel and present much less chance of tangling in vegetation. Installation was not drop in, nor was it expected to be. Filing of the trigger group pad contacts was required, but not difficult. Keith
+webster7710 I put an archangel on my M1a Loaded and I was able to reduce my group size from 1.5 MOA to .75-1MOA. Stock made it way more comfortable to shoot with a scope!
I have a stock military low round M1a with a millet scope mount, M308 Nikon Scope, and archangel stock. I can't seem to get my groups below 1.25" and sometimes thay are up to 2.25". 168gr Sierra match kings seem to do about as good as it gets. I have tried Berger also with poorer results. I tried 175 gr sierra match with no improvement. My next test will be 150 gr sierra match. If I can just get consistent groups less than one inch at a hundred I would be happy. I am firing prone with a bipod resting on a smooth steel plate to allow it to slide smoothly. Any suggestions? Thanks, Keith
HerrMueller93 Springfield Armory, the U.S government entity, developed the M14, which was adopted by the U.S Armed Forces. Springfield Armory, the private enterprise company, took it's name from the government entity and sells a civilian version of the M14
you do realize that this was posted in 2015, where the CAD was better, and you got to adjust for the dollar conversion. you are getting gypped cause i am looking around and found them selling around for 320 to 400 dollars, in CAD
I have one in 22Lr its SICK 1/2” Groups all Day have a few Vids out check out wen you have time👍I did pick up a Talon Style grip for my AAP1022 and a riser pad custom for this stock made by CDS Ebay: These are Great Stocks!
+Rickervision I know that, but its still a expensive rifle. the fiberglass stock feels great anyway. idk. there are so many better options in my opinion. but thats just my opinion. its totally your rifle. Mines getting wood.
archangel really does make fantastic quality parts for us guys who can't afford $1000 aluminum stock systems.
2000 if you wanna get the fancy aluminum JAE stock that looks exactly like this.
Got mine on amazon for $111.50 do some shopping around. Saw it also on Ebay for $146.50. Can't wait to take it out shooting.
I'm adding this to my scout model. Thanks for the review.
Great review! Thank you! Excellent quality production too.
+ArchangelDevelopment get more stuff to canada please , been waiting months to do a 10/22 build . your shit is the shit
Love my northern neighbors! Cool Canadians rock! love the short sleeves with snow on the ground too! Thanks for the vid
That is one nice piece of kit Rick! Well done video, well made stock, and very ergonomic. TY again Rick for a great video.
I just shot my Norinco M 305 with my Archangel Stock. I shot it with the original stock when I first got is. Comparing the two experiences, I just loved it with the Archangel Stock. It shot pretty good with the original stock, other than a sore shoulder. The shooting accuracy I believe improved with the Archangel. I would highly recommend it!
Be nice if Magpul can make a stock for this rifle and pmags too.
I just got mine this week. So easy to install didn't even take 10 min to install. Accuracy is a bit better. But most of all it's more comfortable to shoot. All in all i very highly recommend it. Keep shooting and be safe
You may have convinced me to pick one up ... lot of vendors have sold out ... but they are out there.
Very interesting... I see you have your M305 SOCOM installed in that stock...awesome. I have my SOCOM in a GI fibreglass stock and it's certainly okay, but maybe this would be fun too...
Just ordered this for my m14. Excited to get it.
My dream gun is an M1A with this chassis 💎
Really great vid! Thanks. Just got ordered one.
Excellent video. You certainly understand videography and how to narrate a video. I get so tired of watching videos where the person can't even keep the piece of equipment in the camera frame. Anyway, I look forward to your other videos.
Well done. I have a scout squad in wood and a socom 16 in polymer. I was on the fence about getting a loaded with this stock vs the traditional. I think you did it form me. Just ordered it in fde.
did the archangel precision stock fit your socom 16 m1a?
Fits
You do a great job doing videos, thanks
I love it, greets from France. My next buy is gonna be a Archangel Mosin Nagant stock and then for less than 1000€/$, i'll have a perfect "Sniper" riffle!
Good review. Thanks...
An allen key or two for scope tightening, a couple batteries for a scope, a small oiler of CLP and a boresnake. Pretty sure you could fit all of those in that little compartment.
Please come back to youtube! You were my favorite gun channel back in the day..
Check the gas cylinder at or near the area of the forward sling stud. On my stock the sling swivel stud had made contact with the cylinder. The stud threads in too far and is quite sharp. I removed the stud. Just an FYI.
great video
Great review.
grate vid. with scope and mag mine came to 14lb witch was a bit much for the hunting I do. but its a grate range gun , or run and gun. would like to see this stock on a 10/22 , I bet the balance will feel very cool
Great review. Thanks!
I keep a bore snake and a mini screwdriver for my scope barrel lock/unlocks in my grip handle
8 years ago, how'd it hold up?
How is the Promag Archangel stock holding up? That stock seems to get a lot of criticism from the folks who adhere to McMillan, JAE, or Blackfeather stocks/chassis. They speculate that the fit will loosen over time and repeated recoil, POI will wander, and groups will open up.
Will it pass the California laws as far as not being a pistol grip or no ? I live in NC which is not a problem but have family in California.
Horace, the package comes with a "compliance" addition to the pistol grip right in with the stock. If there is a problem you simply install that and no more issue!
Beautiful rifle 👍
you can heat stipule the grip for texture
Nice review
I thought my tinnitus was kicking in at 8:35
Considering the price, and how little there is to the stock (not necessarily a bad thing mind you) I would expect the fit/finish to be a bit better.... at about 5:25 when the camera is zoomed in on the front sling swivel, you can see a lot of plastic that seeped out of the seem of the 2 halves of the mold. No its not a super big deal, but for the price I would expect that kind of thing to be touched up...
I almost turned this off at the beginning.... you came across a bit gammer-ish to me. But I decided to keep watching. Over all good review 👌
Its the hair-cut... almost chased me off too. Good solid job of reviewing though. Rick could sure lean into his firing stance a bit though,...
Whats cool as well it Makes a Mini look Larger!
Hi by any chance i would like to ask did the Stock fit with BM59 Beretta?
Hello,
Great Video btw, very well spoken and informative. I really like the stock but Canada Ammo is all out. Do you know where else I can purchase one from within Canada?
These must fluctuate in prices quite a bit. You mentioned $300, someone mentioned $115, $145, and I found the best price at I think opticsplanet for $220. The original website manufacturer has them for over $300!!! $346 I think. $220 was the best price I could find otherwise they're around $230-260 at other places. I'm in California and just waited 12 days for the rifle to ship BEFORE my 10 day cool down period. God I hate this state. Anyways, I did get the stock in and it looks so much better in person. I was kind of expecting a nice looking stock, plastic, kind of flimsy. Boy oh boy I was wrong. That stock is TOUGH, I mean tough. The only bad thing I don't like is the mold lines found around the stock. Otherwise, this thing is beautiful. Very good choice for stocks. The adjustable butt stock is a bit tough to adjust but the cheak riser isn't so bad. I think I like that too because it makes feel more quality. Anyways, I'm excited 😁 going to play with the peep sight before my scope comes in stock next month. Oh man I can't wait!!!
They need to put a side scope mount like you would have on the dragunov and the AK I need make one for the M1 Grand
The only thing missing from this stock would be if it could be folded so that it makes the rifle more compact and storable.
+ZFlyingVLover folding stocks suck IMHO
+USMC H&S 2/9
I agree USMC.
I was with H&S CO 2/23 . SEMPER FI Marine
+Joseph Seraile Ill stick with my full stock M-1A
I'm on the fence now with your review. The vltor or this. Idk if I like the butt stock. But it has the bottom rail.
I just ordered one in that same color, can't wait to install it! What camera are you using? Great pic quality.
my concern is the weight. I have a scout squad and I want it to be as light as possible. I love the idea of this stock, but it seems to be more for a precision rifle, not something you would use for a run and gun. what are your guy's thoughts on that? Is it too heavy for say a hunter?
It is pretty damn heavy, in Canada the norinco rifle is about 11 pounds and once the archangel is on, it's about 12 pounds
wish they would add some of the features and nice things that the real JAE-100s have on them especially since the company that makes them isn't around anymore.
got one on my mini and m44 there great... looking for one for my sks...
I'm happy with my modes on my sks I'm getting a m14 next
Ive got an extra one of these rn if anyone is interested lmk. Will pass it on for cheap!!
Good and very thorough review! Out of curiosity Since it's unbedded would you say it's worth making an aluminium bedding plate to increase accuracy?
Richie Erueti I would imagine you are looking in the right direction where the only thing attaching the receiver and barrel to the stock is the trigger group. there are certainly custom upgrades you could design to make this stock even better.
+Rickervision Don't forget the plate covers the end of the stock by the gas cylinder. Not sure I like not free floating the barrel, but there really isn't a choice.
Keith
No it actually will shrink over time and give u the same benefit
Does the cheek riser move high enough for a good cheek weld when using a scope?
Great video! Did you see any difference in accuracy after installing the stock?
Jordan Pike Never really did any quantitative testing one accuracy improvement. I can say it has all the necessities to make the gun work better for sure!
What about a selective fire M14 with that stock?
lol,... obviously you'll need to either machine out the area for the switch at the rear right of the action or have a qualified person do it for you Mr. Vinicius. That would be a nice rig for sure!
@@Wundrdawg1 Would It improve the controllability of the rifle in full auto?
That's a big negative on that question, although if you watch some of the circa 1960's military training videos on the M14 you'll see that the guys that trained a lot on that weapon in full auto could work 'em pretty well. Of course back then, the AAM1A didn't even exist...
@@Wundrdawg1 Did the EBR stock improve controllability.
@@viniciussurkamp6633 That's an interesting question, but I don't think "controllability" is what someone should be after when they purchase a new stock for any rifle. Of course that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before lol. I replaced the gorgeous walnut stock with this AAM1A for several reasons: 1) Adjustability- the system I'm putting together incorporates a scope, so I like to be able to adjust the comb as needed and the length of pull so I'm able to get my eye relief absolutely perfect. 2) I prefer the QD (quick detach) strap lock configuration on this stock being ambidextrous (I shoot long guns left-handed). 3) The Fiber reinforced Nylon is impervious to the elements where wood is not. This also makes the weapon 4) lighter. 5) Having the extra mounting rail on the bottom is sweet... and most of all 6) Improved longer range precision. This Scout Squad will now put rounds down range a bit more consistently than with the wood stock because of the improved fit of the AAM1A stock.
does this stock change the length of pull from the original SAI stock?
what about adding weight to the storage compartment. I find my M1A scout a little front heavy. Thinking weight in the hand grip might help with balance. Anybody try that or does this stock already improve the balance enough?
M1a stocks need to be tight. dont cut the stock or anything unless you absolutely have to. Dont ever take the stock on and off. If these stocks are not in use or storage keep the spacer pieces in it because over time these stocks will "mold" around your receiver. If theres nothing inside, it will shrink and make it difficult to get your receiver back in and/or make it not fit right.
Is this the norinco m14? Could you please make a video shooting this rifle from 100yards to 500yards
Hi there, nice video. just wondering if you have any issue misfire after you upgrade your stock? I am having misfire lately and its not just the ammo co'z I tried different ammo and seem the same. The firing pin is not hammering properly and I can see very little dent compare to the other. I wonder if you can shoot me some advice. Thanks
Joe Cris I had absolutely no change in the movement of the hammer or firing pin. clean and oil the rifle really well, make sure there's no obstruction slowing down the firing pin. Realistically the stock is just a exoskeleton. Should have no effect on the internals.
Thanks a lot for your reply. I will try that.
I watch just to hear you say out
WHAT WEATHER VARIABLES ,XTREAM COLD ,HOT ECT ??????
How do you compare this rifle with SOCOM 16?
what's the point if there is no scope mount.
what's the length of the archangel stock?
Looks great! Anyone know if it's CA compliant?
what was wrong with the original stock?
is it adjustable or non adjustable trigger??
Archangel is just a stock so you keep your lower and trigger group. I don't know if the m1a is adjustable.
Does this fit ranch and tactical?
ok ..im sorry stupid question...what buttets go in this gun...sorry NOOB here
Will this work with a socom 16?
DEFINITELY BADASS RIFLE GONNA GET ONE MAYBE TWO ONE IN BLACK ONNE IN GREEN AND MAYBE OVERKILL DESERT BEIGE JUST TO BE ABLE TO COORDINATE WITH DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTS RIGHT L😂L GOOOOO MINUTE MEN
I wonder if I can get one of these in California without being arrested..... It seems compliant but only borderline. XD
They make a hand webbing spacer that fills the gap between the butt and the grip to prevent your hand from sitting in an illegal configuration in CA.
LostHeretic "Prevent your hand from sitting in an ilegal configuration." I hate my bloody state. They even want control over the way I hold my rifle. Lol.
Yeah CA sucks.
LostHeretic Hey do you know at all if you can slide rails into the side of the chassis at all?
what do you mean? I just use the rail that is built into the stock. I'm not a fan of polymer rubbing on my metal bipod but so far it seems solid. if you mean adding additional rails I havent done that but if you wanted to do that it would have to be attached from the outside.
how can I purchase an archangel M14 stock, how much?
where can I find a That stock for the scout squad ?? thank you
On the internet. Just type in m1a scout archangel
What's the weight of the rifle with the stock?
Heavy as hell
Get a uscg muzzle break you'll be happy
Am I the only one who saw a large gap between the stock and receiver when shooting from the bench? No place for the cleaning kit. I'll pass
Also looked to increase with every shot.....
Is accuracy affected, positively or negatively, compared to the standard stock?
Unfortunately I really can't say I did any real measurement of accuracy increase. However just based on the ergonomics, you can attach a bipod and the stiffness of the stock, I would imagine it would only help if you were doing some long range shooting.
Good to know, thanks!
+webster7710 I have been examining all factors RE accuracy with My M1A and the Archangel did not adversely affect nor dramatically improve accuracy. It DID make it easier to shoot, as the factory furniture had no support for my cheek even with a strap on pad. My Nikon M308 scope however seemed to be an issue, as when I replaced it with a Leopold, the groups became smaller and more consistent.
Sierra Match King 168 grain bullets are the best I have found so far (1.25 to 2" groups at 100 yards). They shoot better than Berger or the Sierra Polymer Tip (3.5 and 4" respectively). The worst was the Sierra Game King Hollow points (4-5"). Now I will be tweaking the powder charge a little to see what that does.
Be aware that if you have a Harris bipod (6-9") that attaches to the front sling swivel, it will still work with the factory swivel on the Archangel. The bipod wil project significantly forward at about 45 degrees or so, but it doesn't shoot any worse than off a bench rest. It does help to place the bipod legs on a smooth, flat surface however. I suspect that applies to all bipods to minimize bounce. Not only does it look good deployed, but when folded up, the legs bracket the barrel and present much less chance of tangling in vegetation. Installation was not drop in, nor was it expected to be. Filing of the trigger group pad contacts was required, but not difficult.
Keith
+webster7710 I put an archangel on my M1a Loaded and I was able to reduce my group size from 1.5 MOA to .75-1MOA. Stock made it way more comfortable to shoot with a scope!
I have a stock military low round M1a with a millet scope mount, M308 Nikon Scope, and archangel stock. I can't seem to get my groups below 1.25" and sometimes thay are up to 2.25". 168gr Sierra match kings seem to do about as good as it gets. I have tried Berger also with poorer results. I tried 175 gr sierra match with no improvement. My next test will be 150 gr sierra match. If I can just get consistent groups less than one inch at a hundred I would be happy. I am firing prone with a bipod resting on a smooth steel plate to allow it to slide smoothly. Any suggestions?
Thanks, Keith
Glad you like it.... I don’t.
How is Archangel allowed to produce this? DO they have permission from Springfield?
+Jack Sparrow It's juts an aftermarket add on. There are tons of aftermarket stocks for many, many, different guns
Rickervision
oh its just a stock, for a second I thought the whole gun was made by them, nvm
+Jack Sparrow Springfield didn't develop the M1A. It's The civilian version of the M14 rifle.
+phlodel springfield did develop the m1a. that said, its a patterned gun like the 1911.
HerrMueller93
Springfield Armory, the U.S government entity, developed the M14, which was adopted by the U.S Armed Forces. Springfield Armory, the private enterprise company, took it's name from the government entity and sells a civilian version of the M14
Total weight with a loaded magazine?
PrettyF'nHeavy lbs.
Rickervision 14 lbs?
Will it fit on a Socom 16?
noone knows. the springfield stock is wonderful though and cheek pads are cheep and look cool.
Fuck my M14 ebr, that shit gave me enough pain in my shoulder
Is this stock 2017 cal legal?
Not anymore
Can you use a scope mount with this stock?
+roland gauthier yes
+roland gauthier yes no problems
2 300 dollars? in the us maybe but in canada its around 900 for normal and 1200 for archangel
you do realize that this was posted in 2015, where the CAD was better, and you got to adjust for the dollar conversion. you are getting gypped cause i am looking around and found them selling around for 320 to 400 dollars, in CAD
www.firearmsoutletcanada.com/norinco-m14-m305-308-win-18-5.html#.WBaaUfkrI1I
around 700
gun-shop.ca/product/norinco-m14-m305-base-archangel-308-win-synthetic-22/
1200
Weight?
+Brian Meier A lot.
are you from canada ?
+kalaallstar19 yessir
is this guy canadian? im trying to figure out his accent
proud owner of the discontinued m1a socom 2 full top rail. meaner than that archangel, imo...
Sorry mine is for the mini 14.
+Mr. S yes sir.
Just my personal opinion, archangel stocks just feel like toys to me I really can not stand to use them or look at them.
"Only adds a little over 4 pounds..." For shooting from the bench, quite welcome. But to carry in the field? No thanks.
In Gratitude I Am considering thats what the wood stock weighs...
He didnt say it adds 4 pounds. The stock is 4 pounflds. Subtract the factory stock weight and you have what it adds
Total weight
I have one in 22Lr its SICK 1/2” Groups all Day have a few Vids out check out wen you have time👍I did pick up a Talon Style grip for my AAP1022 and a riser pad custom for this stock made by CDS Ebay: These are Great Stocks!
fuuuuuck. stop putting $150 stocks on $1500 rifles!
im pretty sure thats the norinco "m14" so thats a 300$ stock on a 700$ gun..
never mind my bad your right
+joe bob I would be embarrassed to do that to a springfield. lol
+HerrMueller93 lol, I would never bastardize a real M14
+Rickervision I know that, but its still a expensive rifle. the fiberglass stock feels great anyway. idk. there are so many better options in my opinion. but thats just my opinion. its totally your rifle. Mines getting wood.
Is this California compliant? Lol
I have one of these in black that I'd love to sell or trade for a standard Springfield polymer stock. Send me a message if interested
I will trade you don't know how to pm
that hidden compartment must be for your burial money should you get taken out in a gun fight
+James McDonald lol. Innovative, I like it.
or for condoms if you're going to screw one of the angels
I was gonna say earplugs.
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Does this stock allow for the original scope mount ?