Abandoned Homes Plague Tijuana's Outlying Suburbs
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ย. 2024
- In the past few decades, millions of Mexicans became homeowners thanks to higher salaries and government aid. The increased demand fueled a boom of low-cost suburbs in cities like Tijuana. But now, many of those suburbs are falling into disarray, and residents have fled. There are an estimated 50 thousand abandoned homes in Tijuana and some 600 thousand across Mexico. In this second in our series exploring Tijuana's history and neighborhoods, Jill Replogle from our Fronteras Desk explores why.
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I'm 34, and I did a very wise decision when I was 20. I did NOT buy one of these bird-cages. The neighborhood where I was going to buy the house looked nice when it was new, it's a nest of drug dealers now.
To this day, I don't own a home, I rent. It's the best thing to do in Mexico with the insecurity. If a neighborhood gets bad, I can rent elsewhere, I'm not stuck to one place.
Leonardo, I agree with you. Social conditions in BOTH Mexico and the US are deteriorating, and real estate is in a balloon condition on both coasts of the US. In any case, renting on a short lease (or month-to-month) is a good policy for many folks, especially when folks don't know if they will be employed next year.
If only more people were as smart as you leonardo899, buying a house through Infonavit, they sell you the house pegged at say, una pichonera at 360,000 pesos back in 2006, if you signed on to buy the house on credit for say 12 years you would wind up with a debt of $1'916,000.00 pesos, people just don't realize the house isn't theirs until the credit is paid up in full. Better to rent a home, and although with every thing as expensive as ever, save up to buy a lot or a home with CASH.
leonardo899 I BEEN IN TJ MY ENTIRE LIFE AND I BEEN SO HAPPY ABOUT IT HERE IF YOU LOOK FOR TROUBLE YOU FIND IT BUT IF YOU DON'T NO BODY BOTHERS YOU SO I DON'T KNOW THE TYPE OF PERSON YOU R TO BE AFRAID.
Smart decision...it's like that in many parts of the US these days too!
My fiance and his Tia, prima e un Tio bought....criminal, the houses are 8 yrs old and falling apart, we walked away. Prado 2 Ensenada and Encinos...completely derelict now.Gangs, drugs, crime...sad
Interesting how there never seems to be a shortage of spray-paint in places like these.
Iam Theman they come with the house look in the garage .
LOL. or hair dye and fake nails.
@@blueeyes6550 Stupid people will always make stupid decision that fucks up the citizens
Iam Theman ahahahhahah
Blue Eyes i know what u mean...lol! Just now saw this video..2019 😂😂😂
Being poor and being dirty are not the same thing.
the poor people left the area because they couldn't afford to continue paying. so bums and drug addicts moved in. those assholes do not represent the poor working class.
Obviously
WatchMyVideoDude very well said!!! 🦋💖
WatchMyVideoDude being Gringo & being gay is!
I agree with you ,1000000%
IF YOU WORK hard you home clean all the time and GROW in poor COUTRY TO, I had 1 dress for week day and 1 for weekend going to CHURCH with my PARENTS
AND my dress was so clean an crispy and iron by my mom and so fresh
AND my mom wash the floor every Friday on her knee and the house was smell so fresh
Like a new flowers 🌹🌺🌻🌼🌹🌺🌻🌼👍👍👍👍👍
THAT was my childhood , and I still keep my home so clean till today 😊💐
In other words it was a big swindle between crooked real estate developers and corrupt government.
The real estate owners did not tell them to let the area run down like that hence forth ( there goes the neighborhood)
their current government says they're done with corruption:-)
I am Mexican American but what is sad is the the majority of people blame the issues on the government but yet if we don’t take pride in our culture and our country “we the people are our the government” we need to take care of each other because the government will never take take care of its people. We need to change the way see the world. If people will stop trasching their own neigherhoods perhaps the world would be a better place. We need to stop taking a shit where we eat..
Jose Gonzalez Amen!
Amen, these reporters love to place the blame on the area and income inequality but the real problem is the PEOPLE. They are born like that and the culture glorifies murderers, thieves and rapists.
Mexican and Indian are similar !
@@DD-nq4re educate yourself Mexican culture does not condone that behaviour. My family in Mexico amongst others do not condone it and in fact they have been victims of that behaviour so get it right. People through laziness and desperation go to extremes to rob or sell drugs but this isn't everyone in the population that preposterous to say. The majorities are victims of this behaviour.
Just clean the damn place paint over the walls and that's it
Somehow I felt Free when I visited Tijuana many times.
Here's the problem, they need to treat those neighborhoods like they treat retirement settlements for foreigners, they need to hire proper management and security, problem is poor housing for poor people, with no plans to have management or security in an area of even poorer people, it was doomed from the concept.
THIS IS PURE CORRUPTION PLAIN SIMPLE
Indeed, as the poor comunities live in those areas they're easy targets for drug cartels. Violence invades the streets, kid's from usually poor broken families are easy targets for cartels and become new recruits or dealers. It's very sad, I lost many good childhood friends to the streets.
They should learn how to manage their city like San Diegan !
Some do, I rented an airbnb in Cancún and the one I rented was a big community that was fenced in had a pool, no litter.. And they told us they collected dues to finance and maintain it.
I spent time in Reynosa, they make the new houses all the same, but eventually people adds on and customizes. Some even has their own little grocery store in the front.
Outbound Shane I live in mcallen, and so many ppl with money from reyno are still moving here cause of all the crazy shit going on in reynosa. Its not as bad as in the previous years but still dangerous non the less
Because there are almost no zoning rules the people ruin it for themselves!
Why are so surprised of it? if that happens in the usa as well go around Cleveland and NYC even worse than having a grocerie store infront of their house! Appartments with bedbugs and all kinds of shit happens in the us, please dont tell me that doesnt exist there neither? lol you arr either blind or very very very naive... But I would go for the first one! lol
Outbound Shane That is one of the main problems in Mexican cities. Zoning Laws are not enforced. So many neighbors turn their homes into barber shops, grocery stores, restaurants etc. so they ruin the look of the neighborhood!
@@gipsytraveler the zoning rules aren't the solution or the problem here, is the lack of building safety codes and the unscrupulous housing companies who wants to make a quick buck.
It’s sad when a good idea goes bad. Criminals are consistently coming up with new ways to commit crimes like going to these neighborhoods
There's not much to steal in those areas, so it's sad.
I had a cousin that lived in a pichonera for a few years. It was truly horrible. His house was not even a house, it was a room with no ventilation, poor lighting and water which sometimes didn't run. The community he lived in was half abandoned with many squatters and high crime. Many of these communities were meant for the middle class but many weren't sold because many of these homes were small, too identical to tell which house was yours, some were overpriced and they we're far from the city centers or far from any mall, hospital, school, etc. Today, they're still building these homes further away from the city and closer to poor villages, which many villages get destroyed so they can built these money wasted cement boxes.
MY GOD.
Órale
When you buy a place you improve it not the government.
It's sad to read the disdain Mexicans and Americans have for one another in these comments. That is all.
Future of Southern California
JonH562 10 Times better than Mississippi, Alabama, West Virginia...
Exactly
Most Hated obviously you’ve never been to Alabama
vainglorious101 it’s a poor shithole.
You could not afford to live in southern California !
Last Winter I spent three months in tropical central Mexico on the west coast with American and Canadian refugees from the cold Winter. It was completely safe. No problems. La Manzanilla del Mar, Jalisco. We drove from California 1,600 miles into Mexico.
Low cost housing always brings in undesirable people.
But these arnt public housing or rent subsidised which makes it confusing as you would need a mortgage to purchase one and undesirables usually don't qualify for bank loans of any kind
Lack of stable income, education and basic public services will create more of them
Sarcasm I hope?
D D the only thing that you neglected to say is that you are a trump supporter! You Need to go back to community college. Take genetics 101. Then when you offer your sorry opinion you have the chance to look less foolish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It can also be a stepping stone to wealth creation.
*Hey at least that guy was cleaning*
Amen to that
shade
They need grass seed, water, and pick up the garbage.
And where will the grass go? There isn't any space for grass, silly.
Jack Andblaze totalmente de acuerdo contigo, como Mexicano a veces me averguenzo de mi Raza, todos se creen chingones pero la verdad estamos así por nosotros mismos, ojalá que algún dia dejemos de sentirnos "chingones"
Jack Andblaze, you're right, here in my City, 3 and a half hours north of Mexico City, our municipal government passed an edict that demands we the people must sweep daily the fronts of our homes, and while most of us do sweep, others even wash the sidewalk and gutter down with roma detergent, there are many that say who cares, this applies also to litterbugs, you'd think if there wasn't any public trash can, they could cart that plastic wrapper or cup home and deposit in their home trash. Not happening.
No what they need is the private ownership. If nobody owns the land then no one cares for it. Notice how the lady at the beginning kept her place clean. It’s called private property
I don't think grass would grow in a desert tho
What i always find amazing is to have a really nice neighborhood, very clean etc. right next to a really bad one, in the same city. so odd
How do you explain most of the United States? Ever been to South LA? Brooklyn? Oakland?
@@eriks8382 i guess a lot of cities have this problem. i know in Oakland there are areas where its super dangerious to walk after sunset! and maybe even during day!
cities need businessmen as much as they need janitors
they need to get together and do neighbor watch.
it works,
Not in a place where criminals freely travel with weapons.
i think dr miereles would have something different to say about that! he tried like hell and the gvt put HIM in prison!:(
Temujin Khan I live in Tijuana, it can be done. It's not like it's a war zone. You definitely need to have your community well take care of and monitored.
@Temujin Khan Then the neighborhood watch needs to carry guns too
Or add security cams and a police station
This is what I think about whenever I hear someone complain their kitchen isn't big enough!! or those first time house buyer shows...where some ignorant ass is talking about I need a GRAND entry way!!! they need a grand kick in the ass!! be thankful for what you have.
HAHHA! For real huh? I grew up in Flores Magon, a colonia on the west side of TJ. I tell people how I had to use an outhouse most of my childhood life. They look at me like I'm an alien from Venus. I tell people all the time to be happy with what they have in America. But If they keep being miserable I'll show them a TH-cam video where I grew up in hopes of changing their mind.
I agree
Grand parents grew up on farms & had no plumbing. They used outhouses, family all pitched in and did all the farm work. Ilegal immigration was hardly a word back than. and yes were all white.
Nonsince... Buy The House You Want... Work Hard And Get That Grand Entry Way... You Deserve It.
There is nothing wrong with wanting more.
Im a US citizen living in Mexico I own a Infonavit home. Its all concrete brick and steel much better quality than US homes which are wood and boards. People just need to take care of their homes. I pay 60 dollars a month and have upgraded the house two stories 4 bed rooms two bath kitchen living room dining room good size backyard and a garage. I have spend about 25 thousand dollars well worth it all my expenses a year are about 6 thousand. There are only 3 homes next to each other. Most of the people given their opinion here have never even been to Mexico.
I Velasco you damn dreamers are like a plague
yes, Mexico is high quality.
Wood and boards? Yeah maybe our homeless. I heard about those "concrete" homes during the Easter earthquake in 2010, collapsing everywhere.
The quality of building materials can really only be measured against the environment it's in and forces it's subjected to. Concrete brick and steel might be great in some regions, but in regions prone to Earthquakes, concrete houses...even ductile concrete, and bricks tends to crumble or collapse in an Earthquake while wood is flexible.
Lol another mexican american who takes his $ to mexico, total trash
I thought this story was about Sylmar Ca for awhile then realized it was a city in Mexico.
When they built this "houses" obviously there was no thought process, and when you bought, you trusted the builders, the bank, the system...what scumbags, you don't trick your own people...you build your own people.
DACA can go back and make Mexico great again and here’s a project for them to start with
True One lol. 😂👍
True One trump is killing America soo I wouldn't say anything 🤐
You Mexicans hate America but salivate and even jump fences to get in.. Hypocrites
El fucked UP o
@@kingmaker1306 el fucked UP o
I bought one of this houses about ten years ago the worst mistake ever I mean the House was supposed to be a private community not it’s full of trash everywhere robberies and loud music dogs barking it’s a third world community and now am stuck with it since no one will buy it haggg!!!!
melqui rivera sorry that happened.
You just described every inner-city in the U.S.. Its all about what the people make of it.
Ah Mexico, que país tan lindo
I'm leaning towards Tijuana, Detroit, or Reading, Pennsylvania (the poorest city in the U.S.) for my retirement. Any suggestions?
More sunshine in Tijuana, better food. You won't have to shovel snow
Guadalajara Jalisco
300 sq ft! Thats a rabbit cage not a home.
Tiny home big living on HGTV
Ya, wait until there are 70,000 tiny homes in one place without privacy without green space, and you see how well that turns out. You treat people like animals and they will react in kind.
You’ve never seen an average Manhattan apartment, have you?
Dave , I lived in less - and i am from a developed country . Everyone wants the American dream , but doesn't realize the cost . Stupid .
THAT'S A SIZE OF A ROOM
Time to start a property management company in Ti-juana.
I love how at 3:30 the guy says that the lender's new aim is 'quality of life' as there's a big '13' sprayed in graffiti on the wall behind him. MS13. Hey, LETS BUILD THE WALL!
this is hauntingly familiar...
an unarmed Society will always be victims
Michael Byrnes lol ok atleast they are not victims to mass shootings everyday
oh there not? mexico has a mass shooting somewhere at some time every single day so dont give me that crap!😠
The people involved in the shootings are always related to some drug cartels. Normal civilians dont get murdered like in the US. Your garbage media just doesnt tell you of all the mass shootings that happen everyday in the US, especially in the ghettos of your cities
I live in tj
most of the central american
The problem they are encountering is one of bad urban planning. You dont just dump 2600 houses in an area on the outskirts of town without providing things like, parks, markets, gas stations, schools and shopping centers, medical facilities and close bus routes. If you dont, you end up with what is happening in Tiajuana. When you see it at first you are thinking wow, nice places to live for people of modest means. But when you have to go 1-3 miles for the nearest convenience store, there are no bus routes out that far, and your work location is in central Tiajuana, a city with a population of over 5 million, that nice house out in the country just doesnt cut it. So who takes over? Bad guys.
Obviously, these people never heard of the saying, "treat the place like you live there.".
You buy a brand new home and then first thing you do is take the bar-b-que out to the garage and call it a "restaurant"????
40 million people continue to live in poverty in the US. That's more than the entire population of Canada just in the US alone! Go to Cleveland or Detroit or New orleans!! even worse than all this. just saying...educate yourself about your own country first.
Abraham But everyone wants to come live in America??
@ King Maker . What Abraham " Mr. Educated "doesn't understand is that poverty in America means brand new clothes , high def satellite television , high speed internet , $800 mobile phone , plenty of food and a decent automobile . He just spews ignorant stats without analyzing the facts .
@@jasavak I'm not sure but when I drive down from New York to Florida I pass through the southern states where some houses sorta look deplorable or shall I say really old and they look like some parts are falling off.. Even some gas stations and stores all look run down too. That's not to say that there aren't really lovely looking homes (I bet there are) but I mainly pass through major highways and might deviate off to find food, get gas and maybe to pick up last minute items.
@@dpinkd Yeah , I know parts of New York are a dump .
@@jasavak I meant the southern states.. Down the east coast.
Did she really say Tijuana is a bustling metropolis? Those areas should be gated in with security.
They need a home owners association to take over the deserted homes. Everybody kicks in a little to make the neighborhood safe. For example, putting security doors on the empty properties. And group purchases of security systems Also, a volunteer sheriff's department? Or at least, gated streets.
Single family housing rarely works unless its a wealthy area. You need to build up, around 3-5 stories. And just sell apartments to people and they don't have to be small, something like 1000sq ft. That way you can fit a larger amount of people with less land area. More people means more monthly HOA fees are collected and will pay for upkeep of the neighborhood and keep it looking new. Even afford 24/7 security. Housing as shown in the this neighborhood are terrible for the city, people, and environment.
Looks like City of Opalocka Florida. Or The South Bronx NYC
Tijuana has lots of problems and with these developments. There are usually put in areas where someone within the government we'll make a big profit off of the land. Most of these houses are built of a substandard materials and many of them are connected like apartment buildings where are they share walls with their neighbors. If you go through these developments you will see walls cracking and other types of problems. Many of these developments don't have full-time water which leads the people to store water in 55 gallon drums, which leads to the proliferation of mosquitoes. The municipal planning department in Tijuana is affected by a lot of corruption. F1 drive-through downtown Tijuana or the Rio area, one will see lots of buildings without any thought of where the clients of the businesses or the residence will park their cars. Little by little, Tijuana is strangling itself with motor vehicles and traffic because of the lack of planning or sidestepping the planning process through corruption.
This are the step to make it look much better: 1) plant seed for grass, fruit, vegetables etc
2) clean the entire neighborhood
3) (the most important) stop robbing and killing each outer and unite and be very friendly - you know work together.
This is easier said the done - especially the third step - but it’s possible.
Where did this reporter get her data? It's all some version of the truth. Once again, pseudo-journalism at its finest.
Censoring comments, I see how it is KPBS.
Censor all you want. Reality is, these people are defenseless victims, unable to defend themselves with a right to bear Arms, like we law abiding citizens have in the United States.
Very sad, you'd censor a comment KPBS.
Trevor Philips law abiding sure thing bro
And they still building more and more those bird cages of houses.....they suffer dementia, ...and other thing is despite all this empty cages houses, Tijuana is so crowded, you drive through the streets and is incredible how the traffic is,and people living In Tijuana really.
No tira la basura. Es su propio pais.
John Bass organicen grupos comunitarios en la limpieza, vigilancia, colectivas para mantenimiento, levanten firmas, si quieren igualar a las comunidades Norte Americanas.
Bien hecho!
John Bass is
No es tan sencillo como decir que no tiren la basura en la calle. En estos lugares no hay recolección de basura, lo cual genera los basureros clandestinos.
Bitch please look at America
I just to live there for only a year and its a total mess!!!
If you have ever been to Tijuana, you would know why these homes have been abandoned
We need better urban planners working for the cities, corruption is taking over our cities, so sad, these developers only care about making money not about quality of life😪
Martin Sahagun those two things over lap you know if the people are buying it then the developers think that's what people want. If they didn't buy it developers would know not to build them because they wouldn't sell
We need more of these kind of housing in United States. Our houses are too big, too expensive, and new homes don't need air conditioning. They would easily cost over 50% less in construction.
Why don't new houses need air conditioning? The weather down there is hot as hell.
Wow dude so beautiful and messed it up
the only reason they are abandoned is they all packed up and moved to USA
Sounds like affordable housing is available near San Diego!
The homes became abandoned after the residents managed to cross the border under darkness. Now living with relatives in a city near you.
Nah, Cancun pays better than being a illegal in San Diego, and, unlike the USA, gives you free Healthcare
What buisnnes is of kpbs news is it to just be puting out negetive news on other countries. Look into U.S. cities, for example Detroit!
Tumbling Dice True. US media just loves showing the worst parts of Mexico, like there aren't any ghetto's in the US.
Just as soon as you idiot foreigners stop sticking your noses in American politics.
Dude detroit has nothing bad compared to tijuana, juarez...
Yea because of cartels and government which are one in the same not because of the people ^
Flint
Damn, Mexico is starting to look more and more like the U.S.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING, PRAYERS GO FORTH, BLESS THEM!
Tijuana is a huge city and I spotted 8- 10 abandoned homes on this video, so why is this news ?
Soon enough all of California will be the same. I'm up north thank God!
Yep, that's the suburban model.
This is a V Fox gift.
Como en muchas ciudades del norte llegan fuereños como de beracruu y muchos son crimínales
You are 100% correct 👍
Excessive editing, are you too cheap to show us anything?
Just like Detroit Michigan
Better than a tent
We a family of 5 stayed in a house of 160 sq feet in Mumbai and trust me all grew up well
Infonavit sell this tiny houses in arround $50,000 us.
crud, these homes were made clise enough for a mexican workforce to work in san diego and for their children to go to svhool in America ????
And the rich get richer and the poor are conned once again.
Word of advice, go out of the city to an open space, purchase the land (low cost) build a home (small, modest and self-sufficient) grow your own food, enjoy sunshine and fresh air and be your own master.
Will it be easy? Heck no, it takes a lot of work to sustain yourself but rewards are much greater and the benefits are financial, physical and mental.
01:34 Enterprise or fuckerise their the front yard .
no zoning rules made this area go to pooo .
So are these places still abandoned in 2021? TJ is not exactly a cheap place to live in comparison with most of Mexico so any housing at all should be welcomed.
That's "manicured"???
In dog shit yeah
A good place for the deportees.
bill grant where? Your house?
All they need to do is to give title to the abandoned homes to residents still living nearby... the resident will fix it up, maintain it and that will keep the neighbourhood looking good.
Part of the problem is the ban on guns in mexico...if the law abiding citizen had a gun, criminals wouldnt walk all over them
And you prove my point.
you see this hoods all over the place. we pass by 2 of em when we go to my sisters house. but the one on the video has some people. the ones we pass are straight up abandoned and they look brand new.
I remember seeing "developments" in Mexico outside of cities called "Granjas" like a shack and small lot used for growing vegetables, but some get abandoned over time, because they are away from the city centers and work, I suspect, and very primitive living conditions. I always wondered what "developers" roped off sections and sold the lots - many places are impacted by the Ejidos (ejito) or indian lands for natives - it's like everyone lives on the land for free and it cannot be sold. This is something different in Mexico where they gave land to the indians or indigenous people - sometimes they rent the land, but it's community land.
exactinmidget92 America sucks donkey dick!
delivering the mail would be easy and a haven for tri ck or treaters
The people are saying they don’t feel safe that’s why they are leaving then the dumbass agency still insist in making new improvement. How about you actually listen to the complaints and have a security in the area to make the neighbors feel safer.
Owning properties is always a smart move.
Mexico has a lot of people.
San Diego in a few years
And Americans dont want a wall to block that shit out. We will need to expand that was around California
Neat looking little houses.
Dam that’s fucked up. There should be a police station and security around those neighborhoods to protect them.
Thank God I live in America,depressing looking place
As many people from Mexico that are in the United States I would imagine there's a lot of empty houses like these in that country.
It depends. This is place is in Tijuana and there's high demand for housing only not where this place is located.
if you lose your house key here you can use a box cutter no proplemo
LOL That only works here in the U.S
gargoyle gangster or the tiny shoe boxes so called houses for the poor in the US that they build in San francisco! Just saying!
40 million people continue to live in poverty in the US. That's more than the entire population of Canada just in the US alone! Go to Cleveland or Detroit or New orleans!! even worse than all this. just saying...educate yourself about your own country first.
I wish I could speak Mexican..
You mean Spanish
The problem is not the suburban model, or the size of the houses, or the location, or "the economy". The problem is the people. Low quality people will always produce slums. That's just their nature. If low-quality people move to an urban environment, you'll get urban slums (e.g., Detroit). If low-quality people move to a suburban environment, then you'll get suburban slums (like in this video). The environment reflects the people who live there.
MisterKorihor let me guess your a quote good Cristian lmao
In San Diego, it's hard to find an abandon home and all the house in San Diego now is half million dollars or more,Tijuana is next to San Diego but it's too different !
Eliminate "Birth-Right Citizenship, and eliminate subsidized (Section 8) Housing to the illegals with "Anchor Babies,and you will free-up, almost 20% of the housing. Prices will fall like a stone!! So will the rents!
Easy to fix right? First remove all the dirt and make into really green grass, it’ll make it look more nicer. Remove all the graffiti, hire more police officers or make a police station around the area. Put a whole gate around the area and finally add a huge supermarket, so it’ll make people for safe. It’ll bring in more people around that area come together
You just need a lot of money, but I could be wrong, this shit might not work
Low income housing and crime go hand in hand.
Where are the HOA'S to help take care if this problem?
It’s looks like a failed Minecraft project
oops homes made close enough to san diego to work but not live.
gotta hate when something like this happens, all that wasteful spending...ughh (*smh)
Why we can't have those little shanties in American for 1000 a month with light gas and internet included?
So why wouldn't they tear down the walls and combine 4-5 homes as their own?
You've got THAT RIGHT!!!!!
STORY UPDATE, PLEASE.
We have tiny houses here in the States, it's a chosen way of life
Smaller Homes like this are also built all over the other border town of Mexicalli. There are many vacant ones too and filled with trash,criminals using them to get high and spray grafitti just like in this video. Only difference everyone has 1-3 dogs in their yard and they are fenced up.