Not even the knock off Paulic writing and gnostic gospels had the balls to self insert in their fan fics. Homie really went for it and got a couple people to fall for it, killed the rest and the forced the survivors to practice until all the people born into it today are tricked into it. It’s at least a little impressive
@Jimmyisthebes I’m sure you thought this was fire but man, under what logic? Because there’s a fan fiction of it that means the source has to be fiction? That’s cognitive dissonance at its finest. “Julius Caesar was the ruler of Rome, one day he stepped out his door and went to his garage, parked next to his 2024 Porsche 911 (Although it was only 45BCE) was his prized unicorn. He took upon his prized unicorn and flew it to the United States and grabbed a quick bite to eat with the local people and then they quickly made prayer to Allah and he went back home.” I just made a fan fiction of Julius Caesar. Is he now fiction originally because I told a made up story?
@Jimmyisthebes Then you haven't looked into the Bible seriously. There is too much archaeology that supports the Bible to call it fiction. For instance, in Daniel it speaks of a King called Belteshazzar. He was unknown for a long time except from the Bible until a clay tablet with his name and title were on it were found. Also, many thought the Hittites did not exist outside the Bible. Now it is certified that they did exist. Same with Pilate. He was doubted as a real person until we found his signet ring. Over and over, the Bible is being verified.
@HarisP000what are you talking about he literally died and rose again 3 days later.. and remained on earth 40 days later to prepare his disciples for spreading the real message of God/Jesus until he went up to heaven on His own accord not some fake god allah aka satan
@@verbosequestion And now Pope Francis asserts that Jesus didn't die on the cross. I've always struggled with having to suspend sound reasoning to believe mystified concepts, especially as the Bible says to prove all things and hold fast to that which is good Thessalonians 5:21
@Altaf-q7kyou say you love these supposed prophets yet reject everything they taught lie about them being muslims or make up stories about them that aren’t really like Abraham somehow building the Kabba. What your doing is like going up to a ‘friend’ and saying you love them but then turning around saying that the never went to school, didn’t go to university they are all actually McDonald’s workers and live in another town.
The best thing about is that for 600 years, Allah did absolutely nothing to rectify this problem. For 600 years, people were supposedly led astray until the final Prophet "corrected" them.
@@jeremysmith7176 but thats to restore a church. At least people knew there was God in Existence!! It wasn't godless and there god didn't exist for 600 years!!
That’s not entirely true… Allah did trick everyone into believing that Jesus was crucified, thereby sabotaging Jesus’s entire ministry and purpose. So, you see? Allah was living up to his reputation as the best of deceivers!
Here's another question Muslims can't answer: Jesus in Islam never claimed to be God, but Chrstians think Him claiming that led to his crucification. So if He never claimed to be God, why was He crucified?
The Muslims do not believe that Jesus really died or that he neither died a natural death nor was crucified Surah 4:157 (Al-Nisa): “And because of their saying, 'We killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah' - but they neither killed him nor crucified him, but it only appeared to them so. And those who disagree about this are indeed in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it, but follow only conjecture. And surely they did not kill him.” Instead, according to the Quran, Jesus was taken up to heaven by Allah in a living sense similar to Elijah who was taken up to heaven by God even while he was still alive in the biblical narrative.
Blasphemy and claiming to be God was one of the reasons, but main historical consensus is that Christ has been crucified because the Jews were afraid of Romans, and tried to prevent a possible revolution. So Muslims could argue using that. However, they (Muslims) don't even believe Jesus Christ was crucified.
@@Crazyking327oh so Allah Tricked into believing everyone and even his own mother that He placed a man who looked like him yeah I am done Thats MDMA Type of stuffs
@@Crazyking327 But the Qur'an does depict that he was at odds with the Jews: Why were the jews at odds wit him , to point fo wanting to kill him, if he didnt preach his own divinity?
My question for muslims are: 1. How could Jesus do miracles if he's not Allah, but only Allah can do miracles? 2. Why do you claim to respect Jesus if he's the most epic faliure in your religion? He gets born of a virgin than preches "the one true gospel" (whatever that gospel should be) and imidiatly after he gets to Heaven his messege is completely lost for over 550 years only for a pedo to re reveal it. If you love Jesus that much do what he commented his followers in Matthew 28:19 "Be baptized in the name if the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.". Edit: If I'm wring feel free to answer. Edit: Gentleman don't cause a nuclear war in replies.
1. Jesus did it in the will of Allah. 2. to present both a judgment upon humanity and challenge to turn to the one true God. and when it gets lost, Allah sent Muhammad to re-reveal it because it got lost..???? also we shouldn't judge because we r all sinners 3. It doesn't say that in the Quran
btw I'm an ex muslim so I have a few answers to your questions, I'm just saying from a muslims perspective. feel free to ask more questions if you have any!
@@dollyfindlay-fe3me but the 1. one was always problematic, in Islam Jesus isn't god that's shirk ofc but does that mean that by Allah's will he made Jesus his partner in creation?
Hi, i'm french so i had the occasion to debate real sunnit muslims from north africa i can answer a few of those questions : 1) Everything in the Qu'ran will state "by the permission of Allah", basically they will always deny that those miracles are the work of The Son because "Allah" only represent "The Father" on their view They also completely mixed the Holy Spirit with the Angel Gabriel, basically there's no Holy Spirit, only Angel Gabriel. And EVERYTHING comes from The Father in their faith, Jesus being a human tool of God basically, only doing what The Father allow but having no real power of it's own if i understand correctly. 2) they respect Jesus because they weirdly agree that he is indeed the Christ, the Messiah. They often talk about "The end of times" and for the end of times they all wait Jesus, they know it won't be Muhammad that will save them, but indeed Jesus. 3) They have the easy technique of "well the text was corrupted" so it's hard to debate theology like that with them. But that's actually really weird, because during debates with them we often look up online religious authority (Cheikh) online and i remember reading Allah saying "WE will send down Our Spirit (Gabriel)" That's when i realised two things The Quran is the only book constantly insisting on the unity of God, and also the only book where God talk plurals 🤣 And also the complete fusion between the Holy Spirit and Angel Gabriel, i couldn't get through in those discussions because when i ask to understand there's often the easy excuses "well it's hard because you don't really speak arabic, which is mandatory to perfectly understand Qu'ran" and also "By God's will" But in my understanding, Holy Spirit is there, it's just completely mixed with Gabriel Also, it's the only book that qualify music as a whole as the work of the devil, but it's written to sound good, like music to the ears, as i often say "you could put an instru on it and it could be a banger" and i'm told basically yeah but it's haram 🤣
@amirsadeghi9888 , The Zoroastrians were never true monotheists, did not officially recognize Jesus as messiah or prophet, and were brutally suppressed by the early caliphs and not considered "People of the Book" like Jews and Christians. They were henotheistic at best, with one supreme being over all others. Yet, the good Ahura Mazda was paired against the evil Angra Manyu whom he did not create. So, either both were created by another, even more ancient, power (cf. Zurvanism), or Mazda has someone in opposition to him who is equally as uncreated as he is. Is this what Muslims mean by "monotheism?" I think not. The Magi in the Gospel were sent to do homage to a prophesied king, but despite what may have been the conviction of the individual men, Zoroastrianism as a religion never accepted Jesus as the biblical messiah or a recognized prophet. Even if they had co-opted Jesus into their religion as some kind of special figure, however, many Buddhists declare Jesus to have been a buddha or bodhisattva. Does that alone make such Buddhists Muslim? Of course not. Neither would accepting Jesus as a prophet have done so for Zoroastrians who did not and do not even believe in the God of Abraham.
@@jameswoodard4304 you're mixing Zarvani a later offshoot of Zorashtianism with the main religion. Thats like a Sasanids creation which is partly why Iranians/Persians were fed up with them and allowed the Muslim invaders to essentially invade! Sassanids were drifting towards western style degeneracy, and peasants and people of Iran didn't like that (much like the Shah) thats why their massive modern army lost to the rather crude caliphate army. In classical Zardtoshti, Ahura Mazda is the main top only creator of everything including Ahriman(evil or angra manyun). Ahura Mazda is God almighty or Allah. Zardoshtism or Zorashtrianism is a monotheist religion. Conviction of men is what matters because they make up the body of the religion, of course the head of the religious establishment wont accept a new prophet, that would be a risk to their positions and beliefs. What you mentioned about budhists is interesting, so they had heard about Jesus too? But Buddhist worship Buddha who is man and a prince who later became enlightened, but he is not a prophet, he is more like a guide rather than an imam or a higher level prophet... you know there are levels to it.... Also God of Abraham, is not only Abrahams, he is the creator of all things, the one and only, alpha and omega, before and after and thats what Ahura Mazda is, so in definition and concept Ahura Mazda is God, or Allah. It's just a different name, but it behooves us to call it by its proper name which I think is Allah, in english is God, in Farsi is Khoda and ancient Persians called him Ahura Mazda. Now that I think about it, the Hu and Ahuramazda sounds a lot like Hu (hova, hoo) which is one of the names of Allah. But call it whatever you want, the concept remains the same, the one and only.
@@padeenuyakorn2304 Because if only God the father wanted Jesus to go down to Earth, it wouldn't be any better than Islam, which punishes a Jew or christian for every Muslim that enters paradise.
Which means allah created Christianity! Allah is in fact the self proclaimed best of schemers 😂😂😂😂 Aal-e-Imran 3:54 وَمَكَرُواْ وَمَكَرَ ٱللَّهُۖ وَٱللَّهُ خَيۡرُ ٱلۡمَٰكِرِينَ And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers.
Allah promised to make Jesus's followers superior to the unbelievers until the day of Resurrection. According to Muslims, Jesus's message was corrupted and lost within one century. Either a) allah was unable to preserve the Gospel. St. Paul is more powerful and influential than allah. Or, b) allah deliberately preserved and promoted a false religion for centuries. In either case, how can a Muslim be sure that his religion has not been hopelessly corrupted?
@mrniceguy8298 Mary - "how can i have a son since I don't have a spouse?" Allah - i can do everything Also allah - i can't have a son. I don't even have a spouse!
There is massive differences between "Allah was UNABLE to preserve the Gospel" and "Allah was DIDN'T preserve the Gospel". Allah didn't preserve the previous message because it was a message only for people of that time. But Prophet Muhammad was the last messenger and Qur'an was a message of all human, so Allah preserve it. (15;9) - "We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption)." (17;88) - "Surely, if mankind and jinn were to get together to produce the like of this Qur'an, they will never be able to produce the like of it, howsoever they might help one another. And so far, after more than one thousand years, there has not been many version of Qur'an.
@@mochithepooh5368 except this contradicts other parts of the quran that says it is a revelation only for the arabs also, there are still multiple versions of the quran so muslims cannot claim perfect preservation
I know Islam and it's laws were completely non-existent and irrelevant in Jesus' time... For the sake of the argument, even if it were, Jesus still wouldn't follow it because he didn't live by Arabian culture, he was a Jew who lived in Palestine/Judea... Allah was the god of Arabia, not the God of the Jews. He would basically rebuke it as false anyways because basically led people astray from his teachings and spread their religion by violence. Muslims try to be inclusive with themselves but they are completely irrelevant. Plus Jesus is from the lineage of Isaac, not Ishmael. Meaning he is a Jew that was a part of God's covenant with Isaac. Jews and ishmaelites were enemies, so the fact that Muslims claim Jewish prophets is absolutely ludicrous.
What if I said jesus was God of America that would be preposterous, right? In your view, jesus is God of everything, and Muslims view Allah the same way.
@@alo3194 in a cultural sense, I'm talking in human sense actually, people in the regions of Palestine, northern Africa, everywhere else except for Arabia didn't worship Allah. It was imposed on them by military force. I say this b/c Muslims try to act like they rule everything even when they dont. The religion of Islam was invented in Arabia, thus it is of that region. It is only prevalent in other regions now because of muhammads conquest. Just like Jews in Judea and their culture. I say this to contest the fact that Muslims try to claim every Jewish religious figure as their own when it literally has nothing to do with them. And Jewish people don't abide by the same laws and culture as Muslims. So it's not all inclusive. But in the 1st century none of that mattered cus Islam didn't even exist yet. Christians of the early church spread faith by preaching, not by chopping heads. The Muslims had to force it on people cus no one took them seriously.
@@In-Astrisit's hard to not take someone seriously when there kidnapping your kids and raping your woman. In truth that was the only way for muslims to make people believe them, that and bribing them with the promis of a bunch of sex salves and kid wives. So the poor muslims had no choice, can't really blame them.
@Mrchosen-c4g I appreciate your response but I respectfully disagree as well. You presented a much cleaner version of what Islam is than what the reality of the religion is... The transcendent part is non-existent, it's them against everyone i.e. jihad against infidels .. Muhammad created a law that was contrary to other Abrahamic laws and basically laid the foundation of whoever doesn't follow those laws deserve punishment, oppression, taxation or death... Hence nearly every Islamic Arabic fascist regime that's reigned in the Middle East and Africa... They only spread by conquest and violence. Yet their literature tries to imply that they're peaceful. They're only peaceful if you obey them. The main kicker, they do appropriate Jewish religious figures for themselves and call them Muslim, stripping their real identity as Jews, just as they stripped Jesus of his divinity and denied his crucifixion and changed the story to fit their narrative. . Not only that, they take these holy jewish prophets for their own story and then wage war with actual Jews and commend their Muslim brothers for killing Jews, it's even condoned in their Quran to kill jews. Allah is not the Father that Jesus preached and taught about, it is not the same God. Allah is not YHWH at all. They are different, it isn't simply just a translation of the same thing, we have two different distinct personalities that say different things and instructions distinct from eachother meaning they are not the same God.... Jews and Christians aren't required to speak Arabic to speak to their God. If Muhammad was following the God Jesus described he wouldn't have created a religion that completely contradicted Jesus' teachings, owned slaves, conquered, killed people, have concubines, multiple wives, unlawful marriages, fortune, power, political power, etc. Muhammad was an antichrist compared to Jesus. He distorted Abrahamic religion and turned it into worldly, sensual pleasure instead of spiritual virtue, even claiming heaven to have lustful sensual pleasures... To call Muhammad a holy man is to be completely ignorant to what holy is. That doesn't sound like transparency and inclusivity to me. They are completely opposed to eachother
This might surprise some people to learn but in the shariah law it explicitly says that Islam is gnostic. It’s not that surprising given that the Quran contains material from gnostic gospels like the gospel of Thomas.
@@kareemsultan8989 the quran mentions jesus as a child sculpting birds from clay and bringing them to life, this comes from the infancy gospel of thomas
@@nameloc9076 yeah because is gnostic and that is why the church considers it false. Furthermore, Islam took as a reference to Christianity many texts and beliefs of heretical Christian sects that were found in Arabia and the Near East, as if they were the doctrine and dogmas that the Catholic Church truly believes, but evidently this is not the case.
@@Aaisha_is1 Because the children of Muslim parents are automatically forced to become Muslims, and the penalty for leaving Islam is death. So many people leave but pretend to still be Muslims.
Dr. Jay Smith's talks on the origin of Islam are very fascinating. His argument is that the original "Muslims" were a mix of anti-trinitarian Christian heretics and Jews, and the idea of an Arab prophet promoting a separate and distinct religion called "Islam" came later. In all likelihood, the original Muslims were probably ideological descendents of the Judaizers that Paul rails against in his letter to the Galatians.
More or less, Muhammad was a mediocre preacher, combining Christianity, Judaism and heretical interpretations of both religions. Even the Fathers of the Church at that century refuted Islam not as a religion, but as a Christian heresy. It is mentioned in the Hadiths that Muhammad destroyed the idols of Kaaba, but left intact the icons of Virgin Mary and Jesus....
As an Orthodox apologist, seeing the history of Islam and the mental gymnastics that goes into it, and what they stole from us, its laughable… off topic, I’d love to see Testify’s opinion on Yahwism, because a lot of Atheists, or the ones i debate seem to think it makes Christianity false
@@johannthedeceitful5968afik, it’s basically what Israel believed during 1 and 2 Kings. The worshipped Yahweh, but they also worshipped a bunch of other gods and incorporated a lot of pagan practices. I could be wrong though.
@@johannthedeceitful5968 According to gotquestions "Modern Yahwism holds the Hebrew Bible to be the sole authoritative book. Yahwism also accepts the Synoptic Gospels and the epistle of James (since they see those books as supporting the Hebrew Bible). Yahwists reject the Gospel of John and the writings of Paul (a Pharisee who was not included in the original twelve disciples), believing that those books represent human attempts to add to Yahweh’s Word. They also reject the Talmud and all rabbinical additions to the Tanakh. Yahwism rejects the doctrine of the Trinity, teaching that Yahweh cannot be “divided” into different persons or beings. Of course, saying that God is “divided” into Father, Son, and Spirit misrepresents Trinitarian doctrine, but that is the wording used by Yahwists. Yahwism teaches that Yahshua (Jesus) honored the Torah and was a true teacher of Yahwism, but He was not divine in any way and did not die for anyone’s sins. Yahwism teaches that salvation only comes through keeping Yahweh’s covenant in the Torah faithfully." In short, morons.
@@GogakuOtaku Apparently ancient Israelites believed at some point that deities of other religions do exist, but they're inferior to Yaweh. They believed in a single superior God, but weren't purely monotheistic either.
@HarisP000 Mark 10:18 Jesus asks thought-provoking question 'Why do you call me good? Noone is good except God alone.' yet in John 10:11 Jesus is the 'good shepherd' plus in 1 Peter 2:20-22, 1 Peter 1:18-19, Hebrews 4:15-16, John 8:45-47, Isaiah 53:1-12 Jesus is sinless which means he is perfect in moral attributes. Mark 14:62, Matthew 26:64 Christ quotes from passage in Daniel 7:9-14 where in vrs 9 there are throne(s) plural and vrs 13-14 the one who looks as a Son of Man (Christ) coming to the Ancient of Days (Father) and it speaks of their universal worship which is why in Revelation 4, 5 we see the Father and Christ universal worship just as prophesied by the prophet Daniel and quoted by Christ himself. Mark 1, Luke 3, Matthew 3 prologue quotes Isaiah 40:3 and applies it to John the Baptist and Jesus it says John is preparing the way for Christ but the passage in Isaiah says 'Preparing the way for our God' so Christ is God according to that passage. John 1 states In the beginning was the Word the Word was with God the Word was God the Word became flesh. Revelation 19:11-13 the title 'Word of God' is indicted to Christ. In John 5:23 Christ calls for all to honour the Son just as you honour the Father and that anyone who does not do this dishonours the Father who sent him. John 8:39-40 Jesus says to the Jews 'why you stoning me, abraham never did this.' Meaning that Abraham had the freewill choice on whether or not to stone Jesus. The Jews picked up on this vrs 56-58 and asked 'you are not yet 50 years old yet you have seen abraham?' Jesus says 'Verily verily, I say unto you Before Abraham was, I am.' John 10:27-30 Vrs 27-28 Christ has his sheep and none deliver out of his hands this is an action indicted to God deuteronomy 32:39 and he says ditto (same) for his Father in vrs 29 'my Father who is greater than all also has his sheep and none deliver out of his hands.' Vrs 30 therefore 'I and the Father are one' shows they are one in nature, ability, substance. John 20:28-29 disciple thomas says to Jesus 'my Lord and my God' jesus does not refute him instead he says 'You believe for you have seen me blessed are those who believe yet have not seen me.' Revelation 1:17-18, 2:8 Christ is the 'First and the Last' Isaiah 44:6, 43:11, 48:12 God is the 'First and the Last' Revelation 3:20 Christ is the one who knocks upon our consciousness in order to be accepted as Lord and Saviour. Romans 10:9, 13, Acts 2:38. Revelation 4, 5 the Father and Christ are universally worshipped just as prophesied by the prophet Daniel and quoted by Christ. Revelation 21:6, 22:13 the Father and Christ are Alpha and Omega, Beginning and End, First and Last. Matthew 28:19 says baptising in the name of Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Isaiah 9:6 states there is Child to be born a Son of God whose name is to be the mighty God el gibbor. Surah 2:40-44 - Surah 2:89 - Surah 2:91 - Surah 2:97 - Surah 2:101 - Surah 3:3-4 - Surah 3:81 - Surah 4:47 - Surah 5:43-48 - Surah 5:68 - Surah 6:115 - Surah 7:157 - Surah 18:27 - Surah 35:31 - Surah 46:30 - Sunan Abu Dawud 4449 - Quran confirms 7th century Torah and Christian Gospel and says for us to judge by Torah and Gospel that none change Allah's words and that we are to expect prophecies of Muhammad within those scriptures yet we have full bibles centuries before Muhammad but our scriptures contradict with your scriptures. Sahih Bukhari 5134 - Sahih Bukhari 6130 - Sahih Muslim 1422C - Sahih Bukhari 6307 - Muhammad consummated (sex) with a 9 year old and the added Islamic commentary states the only reason why she was allowed to play with dolls at the age of 9 is because she had not yet reached the age of puberty for she was just a little girl yet Surah 33:21 Muhammad is meant to be moral examplar for all times not just a specific culture and Surah 68:4 an excellent example and even in Sahih Bukhari 6307 Muhammad by his own admission is an imperfect sinner since he repents 70 times daily.
@HarisP000 You have no idea what you’re talking about this is so low tier 😂 the divinity of Christ and Gods Triunity is all throughout the old and New Testament, if that’s what you want to debate then fine. Yes the Old Testament too 💀 The council of Nicea didn’t teach new revelation, it dogmatized the beliefs of the apostles and their disciples. Don’t pretend you understand church history or the Christian position. Do you even know what Nicea discussed? We can discuss Gods Triunity in the Old Testament, and no Jesus is God He is uncreated. This multiple versions argument is terrible, we have the original manuscripts so go read the koine Greek or Hebrew if you can. You’ll probably use a translation like the rest of us 😂
@ prove biblical corruption from the Quran, if you want to go down the biblical corruption route you’re going to raise many issues. We have the scriptures from before the Quran, they perfectly match all the others. Can you make an actual argument? I don’t even care if you parrot this farid guy but “the Bible is corrupt” does not answer the dilemma 😂
@@rqezeezezeze Surah 2:40-44 - Surah 2:89 - Surah 2:91 - Surah 2:97 - Surah 2:101 - Surah 3:3-4 - Surah 3:81 - Surah 4:47 - Surah 5:43-48 - Surah 5:68 - Surah 6:115 - Surah 7:157 - Surah 18:27 - Surah 35:31 - Surah 46:30 - Sunan Abu Dawud 4449 - Quran confirms 7th century Torah and Christian Gospel and says for us to judge by Torah and Gospel (5:68). That None change Allah's words (6:115). and that you are to expect prophecies of Muhammad within those scriptures (7:157). yet we have full Bibles centuries before Muhammad but our scriptures have no continuity with your scriptures. Quran confirms Bible: 1. If Bible is false the Quran is false for confirming a false document. 2. If Bible is true you have to accept Jesus as Lord and Saviour and there is no room for Muhammad, Islam or Quran. Sahih Bukhari 5134 - Sahih Bukhari 6130 - Sahih Muslim 1422C - Sahih Bukhari 6307 - Sahih Bukhari 5215 - Muhammad consummated (sex) with a 9 year old girl and the added Islamic commentary states the only reason why she was allowed to play with dolls at the age of 9 is because she had not yet reached the age of puberty for she was just a little girl and even by Muhammad's own admission he is an imperfect sinner as seen in Sahih Bukhari 6307 he repents 70 times daily and in Surah 40:55 Muhammad has sins which he is being forgiven of. Muhammad practiced hypocrisy by preaching that its ordained for Muslim men to have maximum up to 4 wives yet he himself slept with 9 wives in 1 night Sahih Bukhari 5215. Muslims will rightly point out polygamy in the Old Testament however show me where a prophet preaches to have a specific set of wives but then breaches it himself. Further proof that Muhammad is imperfect sinner. This is in incomparable comparison with Christ who is completely sinless according to 1 Peter 1:18-19, 2:20-22, Hebrews 4:15-16, John 8:45-47, Isaiah 53:1-12 and even according to Sahih Bukhari 4712 all the prophets are involved in a cutscene and all the prophets name their mistake/sins but it says only for Jesus 'he will not name a sin' Jesus in his sinlessness claims divinity he says I am Alpha and Omega, Beginning and End, First and Last. Revelation 22:13.
They can't answer "Where is the wall of Dhul Quarnayn or the hordes it protects us from?" "Where are the stones that pelted the people of the elephant". Or, where is the archaeology that affirms that Mecca is as old as Abraham.
@HarisP000 who was dhal qurnayn? can't say Alex the great as he was gay and not a monotheist. Also, where are this tribe of people being hidden for thousands of years without food or healthcare?
@HarisP000 Q doesn't say it is hidden. That is a desperate excuse. It is basically pottery and we find pottery much older. What? The city has been excavated for development and nothing was found.
@HarisP000 What archaeology? I am asking about Mecca as the Q claims it is as old as Abraham. It has been excavated for development and nothing has been found to support the Qs claims. The Q is the primary source. What other source is over it? In contrast, they find tons of archarology to support the Bible's claims around Jerusalem.
@HarisP000 Where is Gog and Magog? Behind a giant wall bridging two mountains that no one can find. It is made of iron and copper, two valuable resources. It has to remain until the last day. If it were real, then we should be able to find it. The Q does not tell us it is hidden or secreted away. It claims it exists.
The Qur'an says that no city or district or community will ne destoryed except that they have gotten a messenger, and also every community will eventually be destroyed (by the Last Day). This means that the existence of any city after Islam began disproves Islam.
Hey Muslims before you go out of your way to find even the tiniest sect of people who were close to to your religion, keep in mind Allah making something incredibly clear: *The disciples of Jesus who made Christianity spread like wild-fire are ‘Muslims’* (Surah 3:55 & 61:14) So according to this, the religion that supposedly spread like wild-fire by the disciples was actually Islam, and Allah promised to make them victorious in their preaching, making their message dominant until the day of judgement. But what was the message of the disciples of Jesus? Now you’re left with two options: 1. Allah failed to make their message dominant 2. The message that was made dominant contradicts Islam, and was Christianity. Either way Islam is false.
@@bosnak18Ok so someone who believed Jesus was the divine Son of God and worshipped him, believed he was crucified and rose from the dead were Muslims? And jews who didn't consider Jesus even a prophet were Muslims? Nope
@HarisP000Haha nope. Allah promised to make their message dominant until then day of judgement. You forgot that part didn't you? Read the verses. That means if someone corrupted it, its allahs fault. And early Christians did believe in the trinity. I can name more people who did than didn't. “If they are wrong Jesus led them astray” lmao false. No verse to support your claim
@@pizzaninja5145 Before the Quran was revealed, those who believed in the prophets (including Jesus) and did good deeds were considered Muslims (according to the Quran)
Islam copied the gnostics like the infancy gospel the basilides where Jesus wasn’t crucified and so much more it’s basically a heretical offshoot of Christianity
Worship of Allah (Hubal/Baal/Moloch) has existed far longer than Muhammad. Jezebel/Jezebaal was a true believer and prophet of Allah (Hubal/Baal/Moloch) all the way to her death.
zaid bin nofil he had his beliefs before Muhammad became a prophet. Now I'll ask you a question that no Christian ever gives me an answer for why would the all loving God allow Moses to commit a genocide against the Canaanites and amalekites in numbers 31 verse 17 and 18 and then tell his soldiers to take they're a little girls for their pleasure? And I have an even better question why would God just allow Moses to do that instead of punishing Moses he allowed Moses to get to heaven I know for a fact if the prophet Muhammad literally did anything similar to what Moses did in numbers you Christians would be foaming at the mouth yelling all about what Muhammad did.
@@Michael-zi3kk first off if you know anything about the bible you know that God called israel his people because he told abraham that he will make his decendants a great nation and my people. To finish this point God used his people and his righteous Judgement and executioner; judging nations righteously by wiping them out. Those nations such as the amalekites, and caanites were wicked, they sacrificed their babies to false Gods (pagan gods) They did evil and wicked things beyond reason. Secondly I read the hebrew version of the verse and the verb/conjuction "for yourselves" in the verse translates to לָכֶֽם׃ ".which means to you, if you read the chapter it talks about a plauge. This was most likely meaning the young women were to become slaves because they weren't infected with the plauge because they didn't have any intimacy with any man yet. Even if in the case moses were saying it like the way you're mentioning it he will be judged righteously like everyone else. Muhammad told you guys to do it and do it to as many opposing war sex slaves as you guys can get. Not once does God mention to do this in the bible even if moses did this he never told anyone to do it and kept God's laws otherwise israel would have never gottn to the promise land. ; and Moses is a prophet in islam so you are سبّ النبي a prophet you so adore. Read the bible.
@Michael-zi3kk so you think you can offend prophet Musa and Allah just like that? Weird thing to do, but I'll still answer your question. It's actually weird that none of the Christians answered your questions already, because they're pretty simple. The thing is, you're trying to portray it as if Moses just ordered to kill all Canaanites by his own will, and God just allowed him to do it. But it's not true at all. It was actually the God Himself who commanded Israelites to kill all their enemies without any mercy. You ask why, isn't the God all-loving? Sure He is, but you must not forget that He's also just, and that He punishes those who deserve it, which is exactly the case with Canaanites. Because they weren't just some random innocent people that needed to be genocided in order for Israelites to have a land. No, they were evil, sinful and wicked, and already had no more chance for redemption. They worshipped false gods and killed their own children as a sacrifice, they had all sorts of sexual immorality like homosexuality, bestiality, incest and ritual prostitution, and committed many more sins which were widespread through their land. They did all of this in all the years that Israelites were in slavery in Egypt and never repented before God, continuing to be stubborn in their wicked ways. So when God commanded the Israelites to slaughter all of the Canaanites, it was really just a delivery of a divine justice. That's why God allowed Moses to go into Heaven, because he did exactly as God commanded to him and did nothing wrong. Unlike you, who doubts Lord's will and justice, and therefore is a blasphemer. But there's also one reason besides that, and it's that Canaanites needed to be killed so that Israelites would not keep their traditions and practices alive, as they were the chosen nation to worship one true God and keep his laws, so that eventually a Messiah would be born out of that nation to give salvation to all people on earth. Israelites needed to be separated from the pagan world, because as we can see from the Bible, they barely managed to do that. They always kept returning to worshipping idols and forgeting the law that has been given to them, so would they do better if they kept Canaanites alive? Of course not! And that's exactly why for many, God seems more violent and punishing in the Old Testament compared to the New Testament, even though that's not true. Because those were the ancient times, when the entire humanity abandoned God and started creating their own gods. Jesus said exactly that, that many of the laws were given because people had hard hearts and Israelites needed to have those hard punishments by the law, because otherwise they would just fall into idolatry like the rest of the world did, instead of worshipping one true God. But when Jesus came, He finally told people about the God's love, and about the fact that we should love not only those that are nice to us, but also our enemies. The old law is no longer relevant, because it was always supposed to be temporary to prepare the world for the coming of Jesus. And when Jesus did come, he taught us the law of love that will always be relevant and which will not ever die. You also said that Muhammad never did anything like this, despite the fact that he did. He preached Islam in pagan Arabia through wars and murders, including taking female prisoners for their own purposes. Except unlike Moses, Mohammed did not live in the ancient times before Jesus, whose followers were initiallly persecuted for a very long time and did not fight their oppressors. He lived 600 years after Jesus delivered his message about turning the other cheek. Jesus said: "all those who take up the sword will perish by the sword", but Mohammed preached his message with a sword. Jesus also said the Apostles not to send hailfire on a Samaritan town that did not accept Him, but all Mohammed did was sending fire on the cities. So who's the true God's prophet here?
@AmarJ. it's because these people aren't real Christian I bet you 90% of these people who comment on these videos to try to escape from their miserable lives and have never read the Bible let alone the quran. So when anybody ever comes into their safe space to challenge them they don't know how to respond. Another thing is is that these people constantly insult us our religion and our prophet. Real Christians are great people and their closest friends and allies they don't go around insulting our prophet and they actually come with an open mind and try to understand where we're coming from so that's why I try my best to do the same with actual Christians not these people. I mean just look at testifies video reacting to Holy Kool-Aid an atheist he literally opens up the video saying I don't have answers to all of these questions. Then go to Christians trying to defend Numbers 31 vs 17 and 18th none of them ever have a response to either of those two questions. Anyway it's not Christian fault that these losers claim to be christians.
@@raphaelfeneje486 I don’t know. I’m just saying that in order to close to gap from Jesus’s life on earth to Muhammad. 2 philosophers ain’t gonna fix that gap. However neither seem to be “Muslim”
Further, according to the Qur'an itself, Surah 61:14 (AKA Surah As-Saff), the true followers of Allah in Jesus's time were protected and became 'uppermost' (or dominant or otherwise, depending on how you translate it: the meaning's clear regardless). So, which followers of Jesus were successful? ...the Christians. Christianity. According to the Qur'an, Allah created Christianity and helped them become uppermost. If Christianity is false and Islam is true, that means Christianity is a prank Allah has yet to rescind. It's Allah's fault. No wonder Abu Bakr stated that even if he had one foot in paradise, he wouldn't trust Allah's deception! Allah sounds more like the Loki of Nordic mythology than the real God.
Christianity is the second best religion for the wrong reasons. It is true that Allah was the one who exalted christianity above the disbelievers/jews. Not the one who will come back at the end times and preach that christians were ‘wrong’ about jesus. So what’s your point?
@@ZabirZim Are you DRUNK AND CRAZY????? Before mahamed was born there is ABSOLUTELY NO allah in : HISTORY GEOGRAPHY ARCHEOLOGY LANGUAGE (arabic) SCHOLARSHIP TORAH GOSPELS MANUSCRIPTS THIRD PARTY CRITICS ABSOLUTELY ZERO!!! ZERO ZERO ZERO. Hmmmmm… Looks like (mahamed), created a pagan god to me.
They should first answer why a Old man Mohammad married 9y.o Ayesha is justified why does having multiple wives in Islam accepted but one wife can't have multiple husbands lol
I have read so many comments and replies, some of them from Muslims clarifying different stuff that people asked about, yet not a single one of them answered what was brought up in the video. 😅
@@nasiashabelow7093 we know he didn't make it up by himself. Satan inspired him to. Jesus literally tells us about it and Muhammad describes the angel behaving just like the devil would.
Even Zoroastrians who existed at the time and were "monotheistic" don't fit the bill, Ahura Mazda is not the same God as Allah, the description of Allah is not even close to Ahura Mazda lol
@@OMMANIPADMEHUM8 I mean today sure, but do you have evidence of that in the pre-Islamic world? That still wouldn't hold the water necessary for Testify's challenge since they don't believe Jesus was a prophet (which is necessary to being Muslim as the video describes)
I swear ive asked this question like my whole life. They cant name one muslim between the time of jesus and muhamad. Bro i just feel like your defending my whole belief throughout your videos.
It's called Hanifism. The religion of the Arabs who were the descendants of Ishmael. They follow Ishmael's religion. This religion was also recorded in the Talmud but they don't mention the religion as Hanifism
@@Ligg7099 hanfinism doesnt fullfill the above criterias of being muslim cuz they dont belief jesus as a messiah. There almost alike jews(they believe jesus was executed).
@@Josh-te7si it does because Jesus was sent to the Israelites/Jews. The hanifs were Arabs. Before the birth of the Prophet Muhammad (SAW), it was not compulsory for individuals to believe in the prophethood of other prophets sent to different nations.
I have a similar question: where are the true disciples of Jesus? According to Surah 3:52 his disciples declared themselves to be Muslims. 😂😂😂 And in Surah 3:55, Allah promised to Jesus that his disciples will be superior to those who disbelieve until the day of resurrection. So where are these disciples? The only disciples of Jesus I know are Christians, and they indeed are powerful.
Here I can answer it. Every single direct followers(aka those who lives among the Prophets) of every single Prophet. You can't find the answer because you're applying modern doctrine and applied it to the past when we muslim believe it has been corrupted.
Challenge accepted: In Islam, we believe that whoever believed in the prophets who sent the holy message of salvation, were the Muslims of the time. For example, the followers of Moses (pbuh). they did not believe in Jesus to be a prophet because he was not born yet, neither was Muhammed (pbuh) born yet. So for them to believe in prophets who were non existent at the time makes no sense. The Jews did believe that there would be prophets yet to come, but who they were does not matter until they are alive and preaching. The Jews are the Muslims before the christians. Any Jew who has heard and yet, denied the message of Jesus (pbuh) is going to hell according to Islam. Why? Because they denied the word of god. (You made a mistake in the video) anyone who might have believed in the death of Jesus christ (pbuh) as well as his message (before the Quran was revealed) would NOT be punished because Allāh has said himself in the Quran:4/157: “-And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption.” So whoever did not have the knowledge of Jesus surviving, is not said to be punished, but it is said that they don’t know the truth. So even any Christian’s who believed that Jesus was crucified,(because they did not know the truth) as long as they believed in the one true god, they will also be called Muslims. In summary, the Jews who followed the Torah before Jesus are considered as Muslims. And the Christian’s who believed in the true message of Jesus before Muhammed, are also Muslims. The Quran even praises the true Christian’s who followed Allahs path as very great people. See chapter 18 of the Quran, the companions of the cave were Christians. And the Quran also praises Moses, (he had no knowledge of Jesus) and Mary (who had no knowledge of Muhammed) as some of the greatest people to have walked this earth.
You missed the point. Point of this video is that there were no Christians that believed the Muslim version of "true message" of Jesus. Author listed all the groups at the time and the things that they believed in. All Christians believed that Jesus was God. Point of being a Christian is to follow Christ. Christians must believe in Christ, love everyone and take their suffering with no complaints. Core of Christian belief is: He came from Heavens, He preached, He gave His life as an ultimate act of love; to redeem humanity, He raised from the death, so whoever believes in Him will rise. Islam is preaching a very different story and different set of values. Both cannot be true.
@@Luilucid4733 Thanks for that. What did the companions of the cave believe in? Ito relate to your explanation , what did the followers of Christ believe in? Are there any references for them or are they just companions of the cave?
@@83cookey They believed in monotheism and lived after the time of Jesus (peace be upon him) but before the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). While we don’t have the exact name of their religion, they likely lived a monotheistic life similar to Prophet Abraham (peace be upon him), who worshipped Allah without following a formally named religion. The Qur’an narrates their story in Chapter 18 (Surah Al-Kahf), praising their unwavering dedication to Allah. While Testify asked about one person, the Companions of the Cave were a group of about seven individuals, so I believe I addressed his question thoroughly.
@@Luilucid4733 Historically, there is no evidence for either a city of mecca, or a guy Md born there. Ever wondered why there is no original 7th century muhammed quran? No original 7th century Uthman qurans? No original 7th century hadiths/sira? Because it never happened. All the evidence points to a later fabrication, redacted back to the 7th century and a fake city and a fake cult founder. That is why so much of the quran is borrowed from other known texts: Gnostic Christian, Jewish Talmud and even popular stories such as the Alexander Romance literature. It is the most obviously man-made concoction by poorly educated scribes who couldn't get the facts straight even from the material they were borrowing from. Listen to any of Dr Jay Smith's recent lectures that summarize the evidence on how this cult really began.
@PM_Narendra_Modi_01 first go and save your cows from the slaughters in india 1 billion people cannot save a single cow and the holy lake is full of trash and pollution
Brother, in his own video, he said "arguments from silence are not necessarily fallacious" and the type of argument from silence he referred to as "precarious" in that video is those which extrapolate from small silences. 500 years with no sign of a single "true" follower of Allah is a huge glaring indication that Islam has no authentic history prior to Mohammed. It's shameful that you can't refute Testify without misquoting him.
1: If Jesus was a messenger, why Allah sent Mohammed? Was it necessary? 2: If Jesus was a Muslim, why wasn't there a Muslim before Mohammed? You called Qurayish era or non-Islamic era
The first question is because no one believed in Islam when they saw Jesus and then they thought it was Christianity so that’s why they bring prophet Muhammed pbuh The second one was like the first one no one believed in him and they thought was Christianity go tomat Allah guide you😊
Technically the true followers of Allah did exist from near the dawn of time. But not as Muslims. Islam and Allah is effectively the Reformation of Hubaal worship. Sort of like the Protestant Reformation in a way. Why did Muhammad destroy every shrine other than the Kabba? The Shrine for Hubaal? Hubaal is the same as Baal. Just languages change over time. When you look into the Practices of what Baal worship contained and what they believe. Then you see the similarities to islam. Funny enough it's quite literally in the symbol of Islam. Hubaal was a moon God.
@@El_Stompa you're not really that smart are you? if that was the case the Qur'an would have been full of contradictions throughout cause it sometimes refers to Allah as singular and other times as plural. But that's not the case because refering to Allah as plural was only as a form of glorification and not meant to be taken as saying that Allah is more than one
@@Michael-zi3kk Because the Kabba was a pagan shrine full of idols. And Abraham didn't go close to Mecca in his life. It's approximately 916 miles from where Abraham lived in Hebron, and in his journey from Ur in the Chaldees he specifically went via Haran and Damascus in the north, which is a route that avoids Mecca completely by a very wide margin.
@xn85d2 dude we believe in a man parting the sea. God ending the world with Noah rescuing two of each animal and only a couple of people and then repopulating the world. And you guys believe in a man rising from the dead? why is it so impossible that God couldn't have helped Abraham get there?
May someone please explain to me these mistakes in the Quran? The Quran makes many mistakes. They include: Allah praying to himself??? Let us first look at the false english translation of the verse 33:56: Allah and His angels send blessings on the Prophet: O ye that believe! Send ye blessings on him, and salute him with all respect [1] And then look at the arabic version of the quran: إِنَّ اللَّهَ وَمَلَائِكَتَهُ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ ۚ يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا صَلُّوا عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا The words marked by red are ‘yusallun’ and ‘sallu’. They both come from the exact same root word - salah. Ask any muslim what salah means, and they will answer ‘pray’. So, the verse actually say ‘Allah and his angels pray on the Prophet: O ye that believe! Pray on him and ask for peace for him’. So, here we clearly see, that Allah actually prays on Muhammad! Not sending blessings on him, as the false translation wants us to believe. And the exact same action is done by the Angels. And on top of that, every muslim is commanded to do the same action! So, here we have Muhammad receiving the prayers from Allah, the Angels and every muslim. This shows us that Muhammad is the one receiving the worship of his false God. If Allah was the true God, why would he pray for Muhammad? No true God would ever pray. Who exactly is Allah praying to? Is he praying to himself? If Allah was the true God, wouldn’t it be enough that Allah prayed for Muhammed? Why do do Allah need the Angels and the believers pray on him too? Since Muhammed is the one receiving all these prayers, this shows us that Allah is but a toy in the hands of Muhammad. If Allah and the Angels and the followers of islam are praying to Muhammad, are they not committing shirk (taking partners with Allah)? Surah 4:82, “Do they not consider the Qur’an (with care)? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much discrepancy.” Mistake: Thinking that the belief of the Trinity is three Gods Surah 4:171, “O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His apostles. Say not “Trinity”: desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs. Surah 5:73, “They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them.” (Ali) Mistake: Mary as part of the Trinity Surah 5:116, “And behold! Allah will say: ‘O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah?” ” He will say: “Glory to Thee! Never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.” Now this wacky assertion may come from the Collyridians, a fringe sect in the Arabian peninsula that worked in the fourth and fifth centuries and they venerated Mary to the point of offering her bread sacrifices, but they were condemned as heretics by the broader Christian community. It’s like basing your entire understanding on Christianity on some cult that nobody pays mind to like the Mormons. Allah must’ve been confused somehow when authoring the Quran. Mistake: Son of God means that God had sex with a woman Surah 6:101, “To Him is due the primal origin of the heavens and the earth: How can He have a son when He hath no consort? He created all things, and He hath full knowledge of all things.” What makes this even worse is that in Surah 19:35 it says: “It is not befitting for Allah to take a son; glory be to Him! When He decrees a matter, He only says to it, ‘Be’, and it is.” A few verses earlier, Mary asks Gabriel how she will conceive without being touched by a man, and Gabriel assures her that God makes all things easy. So earlier, God needed a consort, but now he can just command a virgin birth into existence? This is an obvious contradiction as the Quran asserts that son of God means that God has to have sex, yet he can just conceive without it? And yet people still believe that it is Allah’s eternal speech and the perfect divine revelation, but why does it create straw men arguments about what Christians actually believe. Mistake: Mary the mother of Jesus is the sister of Aaron Surah 19:27-28, “At length she brought the (babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms). They said: “O Mary! Truly an amazing thing hast thou brought! 28. “O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!” This is in reference to Mary, the mother of Jesus, was not the sister of Aaron. Miriam was the brother of Aaron. Aaron was born about 2000 years before Mary. This is another example of an error made in the Quran. Who is the first Muslim? Was it Adam,?Abraham, Moses or Muhammad? You’ll get different answers in the Quran. Was man made from clay, blood or semen? A Muslim’s point of view right now: Ummm 🤔 -Hmmm 🤨-Duhhh 🤪-La 🗣️🎶-Lah!!! ‼️Quran error: Muhammad getting his facts mixed up is clearly shown in Surah 9:30: وَقَالَتِ ٱلْيَهُودُ عُزَيْرٌ ٱبْنُ ٱللَّهِ وَقَالَتِ ٱلنَّصَـٰرَى ٱلْمَسِيحُ ٱبْنُ ٱللَّهِ ۖ ذَٰلِكَ قَوْلُهُم بِأَفْوَٰهِهِمْ ۖ يُضَـٰهِـُٔونَ قَوْلَ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا۟ مِن قَبْلُ ۚ قَـٰتَلَهُمُ ٱللَّهُ ۚ أَنَّىٰ يُؤْفَكُونَ ٣٠ “The Jews say, “Ezra is the son of Allah,” while the Christians say, “The Messiah is the son of Allah.” Such are their baseless assertions, only parroting the words of earlier disbelievers. May Allah condemn them! How can they be deluded ˹from the truth˺?” Here it tells us that Ezra is the Son of God, but no Jew ever said or believed that. You won’t find it in the Torah, the Talmud or anywhere else. Some apologists may say that, “He WAs tAlKINg abOuT hIS FalSe sect in ARAbia.” But in Sahih Muslim, Book 1, Hadith 352 makes it clear that Muhammad wasn’t talking about a small fringe group: “Then the Jews would be summoned, and it would be said to them: What did you worship? They will say: We worshipped ‘Uzair, son of Allah. It would be said to them: You tell a lie; Allah had never had a spouse or a son. What do you want now? They would say: We feel thirsty, O our Lord I Quench our thirst. They would be directed (to a certain direction) and asked: Why don’t you go there to drink water? Then they would be pushed towards the Fire (and they would find to their great dismay that) it was but a mirage (and the raging flames of fire) would be consuming one another, and they would fall into the Fire.” This is all of the Jews as it doesn’t say “some Jews in this area”, but “the Jews”. If it meant a particular group then it should be more specific and clarify. I thought the Quran was supposed to be the clearest corpus of literature and exposition of all things. Why do you need the Hadiths? The Hadith is giving added context and they both are wrong. Apologists may say that Uzair is Osiris and not Ezra, but this is untrue and even worse for historical accuracy. If no Jew worshipped Ezra as divine, we have a massive problem in terms of historical accuracy. Jews still don’t worship Ezra as the son of God. This isn’t just a minor oopsie, THE QURAN GOT IT WRONG‼️
I can't explain them all, I'm not a scholar or even an apologist, I'll try a few. ### Point I Ling. Note #1: yuṣallūn(a)[a] is the 3rd person masculine plural (form II) imperfect verb form of the root ص ل و (ṣ-l-w), it did not come from الصَّلَاةَ (aṣ-ṣalāta). Ling. Note #2: The root ص ل و (ṣ-l-w) have 2 main meanings[1], "To pray" and "To supplicate" (Arabic of course had other meanings on the same root), and the latter have a sub-meaning, which is "To shower blessing and salutation (on somebody) construed with عَلَى (ʕalā, “on”)"[2], and if you check the verse, there is also the word عَلَى in it. ### Point IV One problem, Jesus (a.s.) wasn't the son of God according to Islamic theology. ### Point VI I would need the verses. ### Point VII. Man was made from, 1. Clay-for Adam (a.s.), the first human, which cannot of course made from a blood clot and semen. 2. Blood and semen-one important note, blood *clot* refers to the egg cell. This refers to other humans, like us (except Eve). How come can you not figure those out?
@@massblabla Muhammad: (6:163) He has no partner, and this [creed] I have been commanded [to follow], and I am the first of those who submit [to Allah]. Noah (10:72) And if you turn away [from my advice] then no payment have I asked of you. My reward is only from Allah, and I have been commanded to be of the Muslims." Lot and his family (51:36) And We found not within them other than a [single] house of Muslims. During the time of Abraham (22:78) And strive for Allah with the striving due to Him. He has chosen you and has not placed upon you in the religion any difficulty. [It is] the religion of your father, Abraham. Allah named you "Muslims" before [in former scriptures] and in this [revelation] that the Messenger may be a witness over you and you may be witnesses over the people. So establish prayer and give zakah and hold fast to Allah. He is your protector; and excellent is the protector, and excellent is the helper. So, how can Muhammad be the first muslim when people who existed before him were also muslims according to the Qur'an?
@@massblabla I set a challenge to any Muslim to find a single person or tribe or sect of Muslims between 40 AD and 600 AD anywhere in the world, that worshipped one God, believed that Jesus was not crucified, to at Jesus was born of a virgin, that Jesus was a prophet, and that he taught me lesson which was the same one which Moses’s one lesson that he taught.
Read Surah Nisa - Verses 11, 12 and 176 it talks about the instructions Allah makes to leave inheritance, I'm going to asssume you already know those verses, if not, please read them and continue reading. Imagine a man dies leaving 3 daughters, a wife and both his parents, and his inheritance is 240000, in the Qur'anic verses that I told you to read, Allah told us that daughters would recieve two-thirds, parents one-third, and a wife one-eight, now let's do simple math. Daughters': (2/3)* 240000= 160000 Parents': (1/3)* 240000= 80000 Wife's: (1/8)*240000= 30000 Now let's add up those numbers 160000+80000+30000=270000 What do we have here! The result of the repartition is greater than the original inheritance! But wait! An all knowing Allah (Sura Al-Hujurat 49:16) can't do simple math! Another fail for muslims
Buddy you need to ratio them first. It's very obvious that if you add your examples up, it would be about 100% (total of 112.5%) So you need to shrink ratio them to 100%. So the math would be Daughters': (0.586666667) * 240000= Parents': (0.293333333) * 240000= Wife's: (0.111111111) * 240000= This is just the approximate since I don't have the time to deal with the endless decimals.
This is the least intelligent comment 😂😂 that i've ever seen being posted with most confidence. Given the fact that your silly comment has 16 likes,i feel like all christians perhaps share only one braincell 😂 like orange cats. But,i'll still respond,anyways. Bro,math simply doesn't work like that. This is how it goes : 2/3 + 1/3 + 1/8 = (16+8+3) / 24 = 27/24 Hence, 24,000 ÷ 27 × 16 = 14,222.22 24,000 ÷ 27 × 8 = 7,111.11 24,000 ÷ 27 × 3 = 2,666.66 Total : 14,222.22 + 7,111.11 + 2,666.66 = 23,999.99 ≈ 24,000
@Derderderdeeer Where did Allah say to use ratios? It's not in any of these ayat. He specifically commands exact fractions, 2/3rds of the estate after paying off debts for the two or more female children, 1/6th for each parent and 1/8th for the wives. So if you don't split up the estate (after paying debts) according to the exact fraction stated, you're disobeying the clear instruction of Allah.
Same problem for *every* ☪️ult. Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Islam, etc. *None* of them can name *_any_* true follower between 100ad - until their founder came.
@@August_2456 Bro I am an Ex-Muslim and Christian now. Give credit where credit is due. I have read all the religious books and history of all three religions inlcuding Hindus. We can argue whatever we want now. But the truth is Hinduism existed even before Europe was found. Indus Valley civilisation, Harappa and Mohanjodaro civilisations which existed even before Egypt (more thn 12,000 years) all followed Hinduism. It is preserved in India in it's truest form and also evolved by time in many cities.
Burn imagine all the prophets when Muhammad called them Muslims 😂 and saying how he is more noble than all of them and how he has the highest layer of heaven 😂😂😂😂
@@thetaxevader4943 Christians speak about our Beloved Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) ; while simultaneously worshipping a Rap1st,Pedophi1e, Genocidal death cult under the name of "Jesus" (an anglicised name of a greek name;that who knows who made tf up). So,this god is the god of both the old testament & the new testament. Let's learn about his character : 1. Jesus condemns unmarried rape victims to eternal rapehood : Deuteronomy 22:28-29 28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[a] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives. 2. Jesus commands to rape captive women of war : Deuteronomy 21:10-14 10 “When the Lord your God gives you victory in battle and you take prisoners, 11 you may see among them a beautiful woman that you like and want to marry. 12 Take her to your home, where she will shave her head,[a] cut her fingernails, 13 and change her clothes. She is to stay in your home and mourn for her parents for a month; after that, you may marry her. 14 Later, if you no longer want her, you are to let her go free. Since you forced her to have intercourse with you, you cannot treat her as a slave and sell her. 3. Jesus commands followers to rape midianite virgin children (how the men figured out who's virgin & who's not ; can itself be constructed as rape) : Numbers 31:17-18 17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. 4. Jesus commanded the Benjamites kidnapp & rape the women of Shiloh, simply because they were "running out of wives" : Judges 21:20-23 20 So they instructed the Benjamites, saying, “Go and hide in the vineyards 21 and watch. When the young women of Shiloh come out to join in the dancing, rush from the vineyards and each of you seize one of them to be your wife. Then return to the land of Benjamin. 22 When their fathers or brothers complain to us, we will say to them, ‘Do us the favor of helping them, because we did not get wives for them during the war. You will not be guilty of breaking your oath because you did not give your daughters to them.’”23 So that is what the Benjamites did. While the young women were dancing, each man caught one and carried her off to be his wife. Then they returned to their inheritance and rebuilt the towns and settled in them. 5. Jesus threatens to rape babylonian women & kill their children : Isaiah 13:15-16 15 Anyone who is captured will be cut down- run through with a sword. 16 Their little children will be dashed to death before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked, and their wives will be raped. 6. Jesus threatens to rape even israelite women, in case they stop worshipping him : Zechariah 14:1-2 The Lord Will Rule the Earth 14 Watch, for the day of the Lord is coming when your possessions will be plundered right in front of you! 2 I will gather all the nations to fight against Jerusalem. The city will be taken, the houses looted, and the women raped. Half the population will be taken into captivity, and the rest will be left among the ruins of the city. 7. Jesus threatens to rape david's wives, because david committed adultery ; in order to make david know how it feels when other men sleep with your wife. Even though it's not the fault of his wives. But,surprise!He forgives david & instead punishes his infant child with death. What a Just god!!! 2 Samuel 12:11-14 11 “This is what the Lord says: ‘Out of your own household I am going to bring calamity on you. Before your very eyes I will take your wives and give them to one who is close to you, and he will sleep with your wives in broad daylight. 12 You did it in secret, but I will do this thing in broad daylight before all Israel.’” 13 Then David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.” Nathan replied, “The Lord has taken away your sin. You are not going to die. 14 But because by doing this you have shown utter contempt for[a] the Lord, the son born to you will die.” 8. Jesus condones one willfully selling his daughter into sex-slavery : Exodus 21:7-11 7 “If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. 8 If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself,[a] he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her. 9 If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter. 10 If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights. 11 If he does not provide her with these three things, she is to go free, without any payment of money. 9. Jesus's very favourite & righteous man Lot offers his daughters to be raped by a crowd of homosexual rapists : Genesis 19:8 8 Look, I have two daughters who are still virgins. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do whatever you want with them. But don't do anything to these men; they are guests in my house, and I must protect them.” But,lot is a righteous man,lmao : 2 Peter 2:7 7 and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless Given,that christians/pagans worship this dumb mythological ancient Rap1st; I would say they have no right to point finger at the character of the beloved Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ). Worshippers of Jesuss-pi$$-us-rap1st-kryst shouldn't criticise the consensual relationship between Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) & Aisha (Ra.) ; if they can't even condemn their rap3lord "Jesus"
Another valid points about Ebionites: while they believed Jesus wasn't a divine person, but God's chosen man/prophet, they never believed the idea someone replaced Him on the cross 😅.
Ans: During the period from 40 AD to 600 AD, 1. Jesus (Isa in Islam) (circa 4 BC - 30/33 AD): Jesus is a central figure in Christianity and is regarded in Islam as a prophet who preached the worship of one God (Allah). His teachings emphasized monotheism and adherence to God’s will. 2. Paul the Apostle (circa 5 - 64/67 AD): Originally known as Saul, Paul played a pivotal role in spreading the message of monotheism within the Roman Empire through early Christian teachings, which emphasized belief in one God. 3. Jewish Sages and Rabbis: Many Jewish scholars and leaders during this period emphasized the worship of one God. Figures such as Rabbi Hillel the Elder (circa 110 BC - 10 AD) and his successors continued to uphold monotheism within the Jewish faith. 4. Christian Monastics: Figures like Saint Anthony the Great (circa 251 - 356 AD) and Saint Augustine of Hippo (354 - 430 AD) were dedicated to monotheism. Augustine, in particular, left significant writings on Christian monotheism and the nature of God.
Paul and the Jews believed that Jesus was crucified. Of course Saint Anthony the Great and Saint Augustine of Hippo believed in monotheism. Christians have ALWAYS believed in monotheism. Saints you mentioned also believed that Jesus was crucified and that He is God.
@alsalafimuwahhid Muhammed literally distorted all the teachings of Christianity Judaism and Pagan Arabia into the quran 🤦♂ The kaaba is literally a pagan item. yall are cultists
@alsalafimuwahhid youre also struggling with the concept of the trinity. God is one being with three persons, that doesnt make him three seperate Gods. God is God the Father, the Holy Spirit, and Jesus Christ. Jesus is God in the human flesh, the Holy spirit is God's soul with us, and God the Father is the being of power that controls the universe. If this still doesnt make sense to you, then think of God as the Quran and its surahs. you can pick any surah out of the quran and its still the quran, its just more specific. Jesus is the father, the father is Jesus, that is why his disciples called him 'father' John 10:30 ESV "I and the Father are one.” John 5:18 ESV "This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God." John 5:17 ESV "But Jesus answered them, “My Father is working until now, and I am working.” Ephesians 6:23 ESV "Peace be to the brothers, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ." John 20:28 ESV Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!” Hebrews 1:2 ESV "But in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world." Not only this but the 'true islamic teachings of jesus' are fanfiction fallacies of muhammed who was too stupid to think through historical contexts and texts but was a brilliant enough speaker and war general to found a new cult.
@alsalafimuwahhid Don't pay attention to what that guy wrote, he said at least two heresies. Trinity is one God which exists eternally in three distinct persons: the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit. These three are not separate gods but are unified in one divine essence. You can kinda compare It to water: Water is H20 and exists in 3 forms: ice, liquid, vapor They have different properties, they are different from each other, and yet they are one (H2O). And I am not saying here that God changes, that the Father becomes the Son or the Holy Spirit (because it is modalism). Father, Son, and Holy Spirit-who are each fully and completely God, co-existing eternally without blending or switching forms. What we mean when we say that They are 100% God is that They possess ONE and the SAME divine nature/ essence. 1+1+1=3, but persons, not Gods. Why? Because if there were 3 Gods, each of them would have a different essence.
easy islam is an arabic word that linguistically means "submission" and muslim means "Submitter" and terminologically "Submission to God" and "One who submits his will to God" against God there are only submitters or rebels like satan if you BELIEVE Noah and Abraham are Submitters to God or submit their will to God, then you yourself are saying they're are Muslims in another language good job wasting time and effort on making and editing a 4min video just about this
Q. 6:14 Say: Shall I choose for a protecting friend other than Allah, the Originator of the heavens and the earth, Who feedeth and is never fed? Say: I am ordered to be the first to surrender (أَسْلَمَ)(unto Him). And be not thou (O Muhammad) of the idolaters.
Also, when you guys claim them to be Muslim, you are not just implying the literal meaning but you mean that they submitted themselves to the Quran’s idea of God. By saying they submitted to the true God of the Bible does not mean that they are a Muslim. Jesus submitted to the Father. The god of the Quran is not the Father in any sense.
@@GM14218 just because you chose not to read the whole passage that verse came in, the first to submit of his nation and people, tafsir (explication) ibn katheer, al-qortoby and al-baghaway, I heard you guys dislike context but this one ...
Just want to ask that what was/is the proof that Muhammad was a messanger of God.. or he proclaimed himself as messanger to fool the world.. Sometimes i feel pity on those who consider Muhammad as prophet...
I can anticipate that without Apostasy laws and High birth rates in Islam, From death of Muhammad, Islam would be max. big like sikhism, and see this, Christianity doesn't have these and it is standing for centuries and it is even growing (not in USA) but I know one thing that we have, True God... and this video makes a lot of sense and you greatly debunked history of Islam Great Job! May God Bless you and always protect you from doubt and guide you... ✝☦
Hey guys I'm an ex muslim and now i am an agnostic atheist, i searched in islam and discovered that it's bullshit, now i wanna give a chance to Christianity to be a fair person, you guys have any good channels to help me with getting more infos abt Christianity?
@@BerettaM1951 my two favourites are: Kyle (he focuses on Orthodox Christianity) and IMBEGGAR. The two are very knowledgeable people. You should give them a try.
Another good source would be Testify (the chance you are on), Council of Trent (Catholic), and InspiringPhilosphy (he explains many of the science aspects)
Zoroastrianism (main religion in persia) was monotheistic and some sources say it may have been older than judaism, but even zoroastrianism doesn’t count as a true follower of Allah
Because in Christianity being born of an immaculate sinless virgin is almost always associated with christ’s “fully human” side. I thought this classification was weird too because jesus merely being created by god the father would not make him “fully divine” at all to me as it would just make him more like adam.
Has anyone else thought how muslims claim to believe in Jesus but what would their reaction be if a random guy came up to them and said "I am the Son of God me and the Father are One"? Things would get even worse if there was a wooden cross near them to use..
@HarisP000 No, He doesn't say "don't call me good." Check it again. He says, "Why do you call me good teacher? Only God is good". He is pointing out that if He is good, He is not merely a teacher. Jesus calls Himself good in John 10:11 " “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep." "
Someone tried to reason against the Trinity by saying "it says Jesus WAS God in John 1, not IS, so He lost His divinity in the beginning." This would still technically mean that the Triune God, the one that he was arguing against, could still exist.
2:37 Catholic Christians* The Early Christians were called the Catholic Church ever since 110AD when Church Father St. Ignatius of Antioch began to use the term. Meanwhile the term Orthodox Church didn't come into us until the early 4th century about 200 years later, and even then they were still in communion with Rome until the Great Schism in 11th century 900 years after the Church had already been called the Catholic Church. So no, it's not accurate to refer to Christians from the 1st - 6th century as "Orthodox Christians" because that term didn't exist for half of that time period and the Orthodox Church itself didn't become an institution independent of Rome until the 11th century.
@@shaylevinzon540 not different versions, different interpurations they all have the same meaning though, but some use words that have been changes or altered leading to confusion
Muhammad held the first Black Friday sale????? Shipping included! 😢😢😢 Sunan an-Nasa'i 4184 It was narrated that jabir said: "A slave came and pledged to the Prophet to emigrate, and the Prophet did not realize that he was a slave. Then his master came looking for him. The Prophet said: 'Sell him to me,' and he bought him for two black slaves. Then he did not accept the pledge from anyone until he asked: 'Is he a slave?"' Graded sahih
christian jesus was the first transgender in history?😅😅😅🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣John 13:23-25= 23 Now there was [a]leaning on Jesus’ bosom one of His disciples, whom Jesus loved. 24 Simon Peter therefore motioned to him to ask who it was of whom He spoke. 25 Then, leaning [b]back on Jesus’ breast, he said to Him, “Lord, who is it?” FREAKKY AHH BIBLE 💀💀💀
Currently doing a whole writing of this , you should add 61:14 and surah 3:55. These verse suggest Allah helped the Muslims in the 1st century to prevail over the enemies. Now what I’ve been writing is the expectation we should expect Muslims to know in the first century and do we see this narrative being played out , so I wrote that mecca and the kaaba in the Islamic narrative proceeds 600ce so in the 1st century and onwards we should be seeing a group of people mentioning Mecca and the kaaba. 2nd point is the Quran said isa was taught the Torah this means the Islamic Jesus would have knowledge of the correct stories of the Islamic narrative of the prophets . Which means in the 1st century and onwards we should be seeing a group that had the Islamic narrative of the prophets etc etc but we don’t see it. I tried to shorten this explanation but there’s loads to this
As a Ex-Muslim, I have a question for all the Christians: Where were Christians or followers of One True God before Jesus? Why did God wait so many millennias before sending his Son Jesus to teach people about him for real? Or did God already sent other messengers in other parts of the world (other religions)? Also it could be that Christianity and Islam are just another perspective about God of an awakened being on earth like Jesus. If that is the case, there are so many Jesus like persons who taught God to the world even before Jesus did in many races and cultures before Britishers or some Europeans (who carried Christianity) colonised many parts of the world and erased about their messengers of God.
easy to answer During the "gap" from 40 AD to 600 AD, Islam, as the true submission to Allah, still existed through followers of previous prophets who preserved monotheism, even though their scriptures were later altered. The core message of Islam has always been to worship one God, and many true believers continued this faith, even without a new scripture, until the Qur'an was revealed to Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) to restore the pure teachings.
@@TestifyApologetics Your question assumes that names or specific historical records are necessary to validate the existence of true monotheistic believers between 40 AD and 600 AD. However, historical records of individual followers, especially common people, are often scarce from ancient times. What we can rely on are patterns and principles. The Continuity of Monotheism: Judaism, for example, represents a monotheistic tradition that existed throughout this period. While Islam considers the Qur'an the final revelation, it acknowledges the Torah and its followers as part of the same monotheistic lineage. The Hanif Tradition: There were individuals in pre-Islamic Arabia known as "Hanifs" who rejected polytheism and adhered to the worship of one God. A notable example is Zayd ibn Amr, who lived before Muhammad (PBUH) and openly declared his belief in one God without associating partners with Him. This shows the existence of monotheistic believers even before the Qur'anic revelation. Preservation of Truth: Islam teaches that true submission to God (Islam in essence) transcends labels. Those who sincerely followed the teachings of previous prophets-such as Jesus, Moses, or Abraham-without corrupting their faith, were true believers. If you require a name and source of a true monotheistic follower before Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), I would point to Zayd ibn Amr ibn Nufayl, a documented historical figure. Zayd was a pre-Islamic Arab known to reject idolatry and worship Allah alone. He lived before Muhammad's prophethood and openly criticized idol worship in Mecca, saying, "I worship the Lord of Abraham and none else." This is recorded in Sahih al-Bukhari (Book 55, Hadith 638), a reliable Islamic source. Additionally, Zayd is noted to have sought the uncorrupted faith of Abraham, aligning with the core principles of monotheism that Islam recognizes as submission to Allah. His existence demonstrates that true monotheistic followers existed during what some perceive as a "gap." If historical figures like Zayd are not sufficient evidence, I would ask: Do you dismiss the existence of truth merely because not every follower's name is recorded? The preservation of monotheistic faith often exists outside prominent names but remains evident through people like Zayd and the broader principles of monotheism present in Judaism and remnants of Abrahamic faith during that era.
@@TestifyApologetics If you require a name and source of a true monotheistic follower before Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), I would point to Zayd ibn Amr ibn Nufayl, a documented historical figure. Zayd was a pre-Islamic Arab known to reject idolatry and worship Allah alone. He lived before Muhammad's prophethood and openly criticized idol worship in Mecca, saying, "I worship the Lord of Abraham and none else." This is recorded in Sahih al-Bukhari (Book 55, Hadith 638), a reliable Islamic source. Additionally, Zayd is noted to have sought the uncorrupted faith of Abraham, aligning with the core principles of monotheism that Islam recognizes as submission to Allah. His existence demonstrates that true monotheistic followers existed during what some perceive as a "gap." If historical figures like Zayd are not sufficient evidence, I would ask: Do you dismiss the existence of truth merely because not every follower's name is recorded? The preservation of monotheistic faith often exists outside prominent names but remains evident through people like Zayd and the broader principles of monotheism present in Judaism and remnants of Abrahamic faith during that era.
@@TestifyApologetics If you require a name and source of a true monotheistic follower before Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), I would point to Zayd ibn Amr ibn Nufayl, a documented historical figure. Zayd was a pre-Islamic Arab known to reject idolatry and worship Allah alone. He lived before Muhammad's prophethood and openly criticized idol worship in Mecca, saying, "I worship the Lord of Abraham and none else." This is recorded in Sahih al-Bukhari (Book 55, Hadith 638), a reliable Islamic source. Additionally, Zayd is noted to have sought the uncorrupted faith of Abraham, aligning with the core principles of monotheism that Islam recognizes as submission to Allah. His existence demonstrates that true monotheistic followers existed during what some perceive as a "gap." If historical figures like Zayd are not sufficient evidence, I would ask: Do you dismiss the existence of truth merely because not every follower's name is recorded? The preservation of monotheistic faith often exists outside prominent names but remains evident through people like Zayd and the broader principles of monotheism present in Judaism and remnants of Abrahamic faith during that era.
If you require a name and source of a true monotheistic follower before Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), I would point to Zayd ibn Amr ibn Nufayl, a documented historical figure. Zayd was a pre-Islamic Arab known to reject idolatry and worship Allah alone. He lived before Muhammad's prophethood and openly criticized idol worship in Mecca, saying, "I worship the Lord of Abraham and none else." This is recorded in Sahih al-Bukhari (Book 55, Hadith 638), a reliable Islamic source. Additionally, Zayd is noted to have sought the uncorrupted faith of Abraham, aligning with the core principles of monotheism that Islam recognizes as submission to Allah. His existence demonstrates that true monotheistic followers existed during what some perceive as a "gap." If historical figures like Zayd are not sufficient evidence, I would ask: Do you dismiss the existence of truth merely because not every follower's name is recorded? The preservation of monotheistic faith often exists outside prominent names but remains evident through people like Zayd and the broader principles of monotheism present in Judaism and remnants of Abrahamic faith during that era.
He will one day, He promised. He will restore all things and make everything new again, we just have to be patient and enjoy the life He’s given us now. He wants that for you, trust me :)
may god lead him to the light. This person is nothing but a pure hater to Islam. Spending all day trying to find any out of context or/and ignorant thing to continue to hate. He simply cannot leave our religion at sll
In the period of 40 AD up to 600AD The Quran and bible mentions about people of cave who slept for almost 300 years or so. They were the real Muslims and Allah praised them in Quran.
@@TestifyApologetics So what Muslims believe that those people were the true followers of Jesus and worshiped Allah and they worshipped him alone and they believed all the prophets. That’s why the government of that time wanted to kill them.
@@TestifyApologetics so… Did I win the challenge or not, you said specify one person, I have shown you a group of people that not just Quran talks about but also it is mentioned in bible. Now do you accept Islam or what ?
I am surprised how Allah had to send a rapist murderer highway robber as his last messenger .if one were to see the photograph of Allah as described in koranic sources it becomes clear .
You asked if we Muslims could identify a Muslim between 40 AD and 600 AD. In response, could you name any Christians before Jesus (PBUH)? In fact, was Jesus (PBUH) himself a Christian? According to the Bible, Jesus (PBUH) never claimed to be God, nor did he refer to himself as a Christian. Instead, he described himself in a way that aligns with how we Muslims view him-as a messenger sent by God, not God himself. Consider John 17:3, where Jesus (PBUH) speaks of God as distinct from himself: ESV: "And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent." NIV: "Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent." This reinforces the belief that Jesus (PBUH) acknowledged the oneness of God and his role as a messenger. Ironically, we Muslims might be following the Bible’s teachings about Jesus (PBUH) more closely than many Christians today. I know this comment will likely get deleted, just like many others that challenge the video's points. But the truth is, when we ask whether Jesus (PBUH) ever identified as a Christian or claimed to be God, it becomes hard to ignore the evidence. Maybe that’s why comments like this don’t stick around-they hit too close to home.
@@briandiehl9257 Just as there are many contradictions in the Bible, a book that is filled with contradictions cannot be from God. If you’re referring to John 17:4-5, where Jesus (PBUH) says: > "I glorified you on earth, having accomplished the work that you gave me to do. And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed" (ESV), it’s important to consider other verses that reveal the nature of his authority. For example, in John 5:30, Jesus (PBUH) states: > "I can do nothing on my own. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will but the will of him who sent me." This clearly indicates that Jesus (PBUH) acknowledges his dependence on God and his role as a messenger, rather than claiming divinity. Therefore, the contradictions present in these texts raise serious questions about the source of such a book.
@@briandiehl9257 I can also provide many other contradictions in the Bible. These inconsistencies call into question the claim that it is the infallible word of God. If a book is meant to guide humanity, it should be free from contradictions.
"First, get your mental health sorted out. Then, maybe try to find your real parents. After that, educate yourself on your religion-because clearly, you need it. But seriously, stay out of discussions about Islam or any religion until you actually know what you're talking about."
Fist, get your mental health sorted out. Then, maybe try to find your real parents. After that, educate yourself on your religion-because clearly, you need it. But seriously, stay out of dicussions about islam or any religion until you acutally know what you're talking about. Before mahamed was born there is ABSOLUTELY NO allah in : HISTORY GEOGRAPHY ARCHEOLOGY LANGUAGE (arabic) SCHOLARSHIP TORAH GOSPELS MANUSCRIPTS THIRD PARTY CRITICS ABSOLUTELY ZERO!!! ZERO ZERO ZERO. Hmmmmm… Looks like (mahamed), created a pagan god to me.
1. Amr ibn Abd Manaf. 2. Abdullah ibn Abd Al Muttalib 3. Abd Al Muttalib ibn Amr 3. Amina bint Wahb 4. Hamza ibn Abd Al Muttalib 5. Abd Manaf ibn Qusai 6. Qusai ibn Kilab 7. Kilab ibn Murrah Only a few to name. It could go on further.
And Cathars, at least as depicted by their orthodox opponents in western Christianity, were deeply, deeply gnostic. I say depicted as there has been increased scholarly skepticism about the theology of Catharism and it's existence as some sort of organized heretical sects. Either way though, they do not resemble Muslims, they also date from the late middle ages, and were pretty much only in the south of France and north of Italy, so it is pretty odd to bring them up in a discussion of pre-Islamic monotheists in the middle east.
Guys, I will not comment on this. Nor I will try to make anyone understand. But in his other own video, he word by word says *In logic, arguement from silence is a pattern of reasoning in which the failure to mention a fact or event in an own source used to draw an inference usually to the conclusion that the supposed fact is false or that the supposed event didn’t actually happen. It’s not always necessarily flacious but at best it’s a pretty precarious way to argue.* I think you guys have enough braincells left to understand what’s going on here…
I'm sorry, how many REAL muslims have you ever talked to? You do realise Quran only mentioned 25 prophets where there were definitely more than 25 prophets out there, right? And Allah (The Creator) sent the next prophet when there was no single soul left to preach the authentic words of Him. Your argument is super silly because we are taught about these things in childhood, lol. Change your title. Make it interrogative instead of pushing it as a universal truth
Make sure you don't delete this comment, The term Muslim only came during Prophet Muhammad (SAW) before that every righteous person who has lived before Prophet Muhammad (SAW) is considered Muslim, the word Muslim means (the one who submits to Allah only) After the corruption of bible from the birth of Jesus every person who rejected any idol worshipping was know as HANIFI. It was called the "religion" of Hanif. Because the world was so corrupt to its core it was only a small minority of tribes that rejected all forms of idols and only held to little verses to keep them from shirk and from these tribes one tribe was of prophet Muhammad's grandfather, father, uncles, their grandfather, and their family before Islam even came. Man you really do try cherry picking dates and times of history just to make yourself right.
There is zero external confirmation outside of Muslim sources that I'm aware of that confirm the existence of the Hanif. Don't tell me to not delete comments, assuming that's what I'm going to do.
So many temples in asia , india, china, are more than 2000yrs old how come ? If they were all muslims then why did they worship idols? 😂😂 You saying they were all muslims but they worship everything except Allah 🤣🤣🤣 as a exmuslim fact is Islam is just a fake human made religion nothing else and quran is word of Muhammad not god .
@@TestifyApologetics You are absolutely right with your descriptions. Contrary to all Islamic scriptural legends, the content of your video is also provable. Quote: "Man you really do try cherry picking dates and times of history just to make yourself right." - Well, the data is, of course, NOT “cherry picked” but historically predetermined. And contrary to Islamic legendary scriptures, your depictions are based on all existing (not lying!) written and archaeological material from more than half a millennium after Christ. 1) There was NO ethnic group called Muslims before the 8th century. There was no Allah, no Quran, no Mecca, no “prophet” Muhammad, and no Islam. This is proven by authentic history - and NOT by Islamic legends and fairy tales. 2) There is no mention of an Allah in any of the pre-Islamic scriptures, “Al” in Aramaic means “God” and “lah” was an ancient Egyptian moon deity. 3) Quote: "After the corruption of bible from the birth of Jesus..." - So the Quran was lying again when it says in 3:3 "He has sent down upon thee the Book with the truth, confirming (!) what was before it, and He sent down the Torah and the Gospel." - So Al-lah sent corrupted books?? And what “history” is seriton007 talking about in the last sentence of his comment? As a graduate of religious history at a German and an Islamic university, I must emphasize that there is NO actual history in Islam. In this ideology, almost EVERYTHING is based on legends, myths and inventions. I am currently working on a written documentary in which I will prove that an Arab “prophet” Muhammad NEVER existed. However, he had to be invented and installed around the middle of the 8th century in order to create a "messenger" and a counterpart to Jesus Christ with this character. Already about 2200 years before the invention of Islam in the 8th century, the term “MHMD” existed among the Ugaritans (without the vowels, which were still unknown until about the 8th/9th century). Over the centuries, this term underwent changes, such as “Mah'mad”, found in Song of Solomon 5:16, "Ahmad" until it finally appeared as “Muhammad”. Along with numerous treacherous uses of texts from pre-Islamic religious scriptures and apocrypha in the Quran, this is all further evidence of what is very obviously the biggest fraud of all time. Knowing all this, the highest Islamic representatives also try to protect themselves by forbidding any criticism of scriptures and especially of Muhammad and threatening them with death. There was no Islam in the entire 7th century; the founder and first caliph of the Umayyad dynasty, Muʿāwiya ibn Abī Sufyān (r. 661-680 AD), was a TRINITY Christian. His more important successor was Abd al Malik (r. 685-705 AD), also a Christian, but who rejected the divinity of Jesus, the crucifixion of Jesus and the Trinity of God. Al Hajjaj ibn Yusuf, Abd al Malik's governor of Iraq, ultimately imposed the political ideology of Islam. Islam is therefore nothing other than a CHRISTIAN heresy, as the Quran shows in numerous places. This also explains the fact that the hadiths were only written between the 9th and 14th centuries, and the “Sirat Rasul Allah” was only written in the 19th century. On the other hand, we must show understanding for our Muslim friends, because they have no choice but to disagree. Because if they don't, they could possibly become victims of this “religion of peace and tolerance” themselves.
I disagree, in the Islamic perspective, prophet Moses, Prophet Isa(Jesus), as well as prophet Abraham, prophet David (Dawood), there are actually many more names, there message was to worship one god who is Allah, that was Islam, every prophet was preaching the message of monotheism, to worship Allah
1:14 "B-but you see, all the prophets' messages were corrupted by Shaytan! Even Jesus! (PBUH). The Bible has so many contradictions, but the Qur'an? Zero! 100% perfect, Alhamdulillah! SEE? BIBLE FALSE, QUR’AN TRUE. THREE CAN NOT BE 1, SIMPLE MATH!"
This is so stup*d, like every prophet conveyed a different set of teachings,like it wasn't exactly islam,and there are almost 1000 scientific verses in quran and not a single one has been proved false.And people claiming that Muhammad(p.b.u.h) to copy from bible and other books,for their knowledge he didn't knew how to read or write. I am not a blind follower,I question my faith and find my answers. The hate for islam here is just too biased,Atleast study Islam once unbiasedly,Then criticize or accept,whatever you want.
Ali Dawah said that that scientific miracles of the quran got debunked. And there actually a lot "scientific miracles" that have been proven false. Also there are hadiths that prove that Muhammad was not actually illiterate and also hadiths that prove Muhammad copied from the bible.
“Not a single scientific has been proved false!” Great joke. Can you tell me the last time you dipped a fly in your drink or how much camel urine you drank?
Name three scientific verses of the Quran. There definitely are not 1000, not even the most staunch Islamic apologist (who knows what the Quran says) would ever say that. Muhammad didn't have to know how to read or write to copy from people. The Quran tells you that people accused Muhammad of being all ears - that is to say, just accepting anything he heard. Quran 9:61 "And among them are those who insult the Prophet, and say, “He is all ears.” Say, “He listens for your own good. He believes in God, and trusts the believers, and is mercy for those of you who believe.” Those who insult the Messenger of God will have a painful penalty." Muhammad is accused of hearing and claiming the stories of the ancients as divine revelation: Quran 25:5 "And they say, “Tales of the ancients; he wrote them down; they are dictated to him morning and evening.” "
Muslims: Muhammad did perform a miracle Me: what? Muslims: he road a donkey to jerusalem prayed and went to the heavens and met prophets Me: where is the proof? Muslims: the donkey was the proof Me: than there is no evidence he did that Muslims: trust me bro Me: no Muslims: but he split the moon Me: where in the Quran does it say that because it has been written after his death Muslims: still trust me bro Muslims he saw the entire world Me: but why did he say the earth was as flat as a rug if he did have his night journey Muslims: trust me bro Me: no Muslims: but his greatest miracle is the Quran as it was the word of god the word that became book Me: so you do believe in a Trinity belief ? Muslims: no Me but you just said the Quran is uncreated and is the word that became a book Muslims: nooo Me: yes Muslims: no Me you just believed in our trinity that the word became flesh but in your case the word became a book Muslims: trust me bro Muhammad reacting to his Muslim trust me bros: and I thought I was stupid 🤦♀️ Muslims after realizing Jesus is god: 👁👄👁
@@ZabirZim you’re the one who are crazy for following a guy who thinks sperms are created out of backbones and who fed camel urine to a poor man thinking it would be medicine 🤦
This story is broken. Here's how: > Muslims: Muhammad did perform a miracle > Me: what? > Muslims: he road a donkey to jerusalem prayed and went to the heavens and met prophets > Me: where is the proof? > Muslims: the donkey was the proof > Me: than there is no evidence he did that To the "Muslims" (the correct one will be Muslim) character, He (saw) didn't rode a donkey, He (saw) rode Buraq (lit. lightning). Also, it is on Qur'an Surah Al-Isra' [19], and the Quraish said he was a witch, not a liar. A witch is different from a liar. > Muslims: but he split the moon > Me: where in the Quran does it say that because it has been written after his death See Qur'an Surah Al-Qamar [55] verses 1-2. > Muslims he saw the entire world > Me: but why did he say the earth was as flat as a rug if he did have his night journey You forgot the colon, here you go : ! Then, when you walk around your house, did you feel a decrease/increase in elevation, no right? > Muslims: but his greatest miracle is the Quran as it was the word of god the word that became book > Me: so you do believe in a Trinity belief ? > Muslims: no > Me but you just said the Quran is uncreated and is the word that became a book > Muslims: nooo The Qur'an is not God, it is a creation of Allah (swt.), how did this correlate to the Trinity? > Me you just believed in our trinity that the word became flesh but in your case the word became a book > Muslims: trust me bro > Muhammad reacting to his Muslim trust me bros: and I thought I was stupid 🤦♀ > Muslims after realizing Jesus is god: 👁👄👁 **coughing** And yet I still not believe that Jesus is God. Also, I think you need to learn how to spell. 🤦♀
@HarisP000 yes you can prove Jesus did these miracles but eye witnesses and text like with Jesus there is always eyewitness that people documented now let me tell you why this argument is flawed because by that logic how would you know the Quran is truly written from his when it had no eye witness Muhammad accordingly got it from a cave Also Jesus mentions that he is god: Before Abraham was I am I am that I am He accepted worship He forgave sins He says that I am the law of Moses And what I am means it means that he always was and always is just like god said to the Jews he said I am that’s why people wanted to stone Jesus because the Jews said that he was doing something blasphemous He also said how I and the Father are one Who ever seen me has seen the father
History is what we know, but it is not everything we know. Moreover, history is most likely influenced by the perspectives and biases of its writers. There is no guarantee that history has remained unaltered over time; we can only hope it hasn’t been modified later on. What I am trying to say is that history is not the ultimate truth. Just because history recognizes something as fact does not mean it is 100% accurate. Many things in history come from random clues here and there, or from fragments of parchment, which can be fabricated, by the way. I am not a historian, so if anyone finds mistakes in my statements, please feel free to correct me. But for the sake of argument, I will sort of answer your question and point to a group with the help of the Quran: Bismillah { إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ وَٱلَّذِينَ هَادُواْ وَٱلنَّصَٰرَىٰ وَٱلصَّٰبِـِٔينَ مَنۡ ءَامَنَ بِٱللَّهِ وَٱلۡيَوۡمِ ٱلۡأٓخِرِ وَعَمِلَ صَٰلِحٗا فَلَهُمۡ أَجۡرُهُمۡ عِندَ رَبِّهِمۡ وَلَا خَوۡفٌ عَلَيۡهِمۡ وَلَا هُمۡ يَحۡزَنُونَ } [Surah Al-Baqarah: 62] Sahih International Translation: "Indeed, those who believed, and those who were Jews, Christians, or Sabeans [before Prophet Muḥammad (ﷺ)]-those [among them] who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness-will have their reward with their Lord, and no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve."
@@Reynaertphotos Christianity at the time was Orthodox, including te Papal Church. They were the "One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church", so they were "Catholic", but not as Westerners understand the term. And in the Roman Empire of Justin I, they were Romans (about 20 Roman Greeks, so "Roman in race / tribe / ethnicity / blood", and 10 more non-Greek Roman citizens). Those were "Roman Catholics" not accepting Papal Supremacy. The now mostly non-Roman Latin and Germanic speakers im the were not "Roman", but were "Catholic" in union with the other 4 ancient patriachies
Catholic here. There was no such thing as Catholicism or Orthodoxy. Just "the one holy Catholic and apostolic church" which didn't really refer to Catholicism itself, just the church.
If Jesus said he was god, and Jesus was the son of god, doesn’t that mean that Christianity has 2 gods. Also how could god let humans kill himself (his creation) if he died then the whole universe wouldn’t have balance and crumble, if he died for our sins that means everybody will be in heaven and hell would have no use for its existence
If you think about it, Islam really is just a self-insert fanfic of the Bible 🤔
Not even the knock off Paulic writing and gnostic gospels had the balls to self insert in their fan fics. Homie really went for it and got a couple people to fall for it, killed the rest and the forced the survivors to practice until all the people born into it today are tricked into it. It’s at least a little impressive
And a horror story about hell to scare people into following Mhmd.
@Jimmyisthebes I’m sure you thought this was fire but man, under what logic? Because there’s a fan fiction of it that means the source has to be fiction? That’s cognitive dissonance at its finest.
“Julius Caesar was the ruler of Rome, one day he stepped out his door and went to his garage, parked next to his 2024 Porsche 911 (Although it was only 45BCE) was his prized unicorn. He took upon his prized unicorn and flew it to the United States and grabbed a quick bite to eat with the local people and then they quickly made prayer to Allah and he went back home.”
I just made a fan fiction of Julius Caesar. Is he now fiction originally because I told a made up story?
@Jimmyisthebes Then you haven't looked into the Bible seriously. There is too much archaeology that supports the Bible to call it fiction. For instance, in Daniel it speaks of a King called Belteshazzar. He was unknown for a long time except from the Bible until a clay tablet with his name and title were on it were found.
Also, many thought the Hittites did not exist outside the Bible. Now it is certified that they did exist.
Same with Pilate. He was doubted as a real person until we found his signet ring.
Over and over, the Bible is being verified.
@@c0rndog748yep Islam is a formula for religious fanatism. Having laws to unalive apostates are a huge reason for muslims not to leave it.
Allah waiting 600 years to tell a random Arab that Jesus didn't die on the cross
@HarisP000 He was also seen dying on the cross, Romans and Jews proudly recorded it
@HarisP000what are you talking about he literally died and rose again 3 days later.. and remained on earth 40 days later to prepare his disciples for spreading the real message of God/Jesus until he went up to heaven on His own accord not some fake god allah aka satan
@Altaf-q7k If you'd love these prophets you would have obeyed their law, but you don't.
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And now Pope Francis asserts that Jesus didn't die on the cross. I've always struggled with having to suspend sound reasoning to believe mystified concepts, especially as the Bible says to prove all things and hold fast to that which is good Thessalonians 5:21
@Altaf-q7kyou say you love these supposed prophets yet reject everything they taught lie about them being muslims or make up stories about them that aren’t really like Abraham somehow building the Kabba. What your doing is like going up to a ‘friend’ and saying you love them but then turning around saying that the never went to school, didn’t go to university they are all actually McDonald’s workers and live in another town.
The best thing about is that for 600 years, Allah did absolutely nothing to rectify this problem. For 600 years, people were supposedly led astray until the final Prophet "corrected" them.
Hey at least God didn't wait 1800 years before sending another prophet to restore his Church.
@@jeremysmith7176 but thats to restore a church. At least people knew there was God in Existence!! It wasn't godless and there god didn't exist for 600 years!!
That’s not entirely true… Allah did trick everyone into believing that Jesus was crucified, thereby sabotaging Jesus’s entire ministry and purpose. So, you see? Allah was living up to his reputation as the best of deceivers!
@@TH-camRoamerThey were not that big at that time also most of them were pagan and ignorance
@@jeremysmith7176what are you talking about? Thee time between David and Jesus which was prophesied? Or something else
Here's another question Muslims can't answer:
Jesus in Islam never claimed to be God, but Chrstians think Him claiming that led to his crucification. So if He never claimed to be God, why was He crucified?
I'm a Christian who believes Jesus was crucified, but this argument doesn't work because Muslims don't believe that Jesus was crucified.
The Muslims do not believe that Jesus really died or that he neither died a natural death nor was crucified
Surah 4:157 (Al-Nisa):
“And because of their saying, 'We killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah' - but they neither killed him nor crucified him, but it only appeared to them so. And those who disagree about this are indeed in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it, but follow only conjecture. And surely they did not kill him.”
Instead, according to the Quran, Jesus was taken up to heaven by Allah in a living sense similar to Elijah who was taken up to heaven by God even while he was still alive in the biblical narrative.
Blasphemy and claiming to be God was one of the reasons, but main historical consensus is that Christ has been crucified because the Jews were afraid of Romans, and tried to prevent a possible revolution. So Muslims could argue using that. However, they (Muslims) don't even believe Jesus Christ was crucified.
@@Crazyking327oh so Allah Tricked into believing everyone and even his own mother that He placed a man who looked like him yeah I am done Thats MDMA Type of stuffs
@@Crazyking327 But the Qur'an does depict that he was at odds with the Jews: Why were the jews at odds wit him , to point fo wanting to kill him, if he didnt preach his own divinity?
Literally, not a single person they can point to or document that would affirm true followers of Allah.
Deutronomy 6:4 in KJV : "Hear O Israel. The Lord our God is one"
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And that one in it's original language can also mean a compound one, like a tri-une God.
@@MetroMan13 it is NOT. Why are you lying ??
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Ehad or Echad can mean unity or compound one too.
@@srinugrohoprahastono7701echad (one) is used for Adam and Eve becoming one in marriage in Genesis. So he's not lying.
My question for muslims are:
1. How could Jesus do miracles if he's not Allah, but only Allah can do miracles?
2. Why do you claim to respect Jesus if he's the most epic faliure in your religion? He gets born of a virgin than preches "the one true gospel" (whatever that gospel should be) and imidiatly after he gets to Heaven his messege is completely lost for over 550 years only for a pedo to re reveal it.
If you love Jesus that much do what he commented his followers in Matthew 28:19 "Be baptized in the name if the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.".
Edit: If I'm wring feel free to answer.
Edit: Gentleman don't cause a nuclear war in replies.
1. Jesus did it in the will of Allah.
2. to present both a judgment upon humanity and challenge to turn to the one true God. and when it gets lost, Allah sent Muhammad to re-reveal it because it got lost..???? also we shouldn't judge because we r all sinners
3. It doesn't say that in the Quran
btw I'm an ex muslim so I have a few answers to your questions, I'm just saying from a muslims perspective. feel free to ask more questions if you have any!
lmao
@@dollyfindlay-fe3me but the 1. one was always problematic, in Islam Jesus isn't god that's shirk ofc but does that mean that by Allah's will he made Jesus his partner in creation?
Hi, i'm french so i had the occasion to debate real sunnit muslims from north africa i can answer a few of those questions :
1) Everything in the Qu'ran will state "by the permission of Allah", basically they will always deny that those miracles are the work of The Son because "Allah" only represent "The Father" on their view
They also completely mixed the Holy Spirit with the Angel Gabriel, basically there's no Holy Spirit, only Angel Gabriel.
And EVERYTHING comes from The Father in their faith, Jesus being a human tool of God basically, only doing what The Father allow but having no real power of it's own if i understand correctly.
2) they respect Jesus because they weirdly agree that he is indeed the Christ, the Messiah. They often talk about "The end of times" and for the end of times they all wait Jesus, they know it won't be Muhammad that will save them, but indeed Jesus.
3) They have the easy technique of "well the text was corrupted" so it's hard to debate theology like that with them.
But that's actually really weird, because during debates with them we often look up online religious authority (Cheikh) online and i remember reading Allah saying "WE will send down Our Spirit (Gabriel)"
That's when i realised two things
The Quran is the only book constantly insisting on the unity of God, and also the only book where God talk plurals 🤣
And also the complete fusion between the Holy Spirit and Angel Gabriel, i couldn't get through in those discussions because when i ask to understand there's often the easy excuses "well it's hard because you don't really speak arabic, which is mandatory to perfectly understand Qu'ran" and also "By God's will"
But in my understanding, Holy Spirit is there, it's just completely mixed with Gabriel
Also, it's the only book that qualify music as a whole as the work of the devil, but it's written to sound good, like music to the ears, as i often say "you could put an instru on it and it could be a banger" and i'm told basically yeah but it's haram 🤣
This guy answered it.
"The Question NO MUSLIM Can Answer? Challenge Accepted."
Islam is a demonic heresy. Repent
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Persians/Iranians, they were Zorashitan, they worshiped one God and they believed in Jesus, three wise men were Iranians. duh
@amirsadeghi9888 ,
The Zoroastrians were never true monotheists, did not officially recognize Jesus as messiah or prophet, and were brutally suppressed by the early caliphs and not considered "People of the Book" like Jews and Christians.
They were henotheistic at best, with one supreme being over all others. Yet, the good Ahura Mazda was paired against the evil Angra Manyu whom he did not create. So, either both were created by another, even more ancient, power (cf. Zurvanism), or Mazda has someone in opposition to him who is equally as uncreated as he is. Is this what Muslims mean by "monotheism?" I think not.
The Magi in the Gospel were sent to do homage to a prophesied king, but despite what may have been the conviction of the individual men, Zoroastrianism as a religion never accepted Jesus as the biblical messiah or a recognized prophet.
Even if they had co-opted Jesus into their religion as some kind of special figure, however, many Buddhists declare Jesus to have been a buddha or bodhisattva. Does that alone make such Buddhists Muslim? Of course not. Neither would accepting Jesus as a prophet have done so for Zoroastrians who did not and do not even believe in the God of Abraham.
@@jameswoodard4304 you're mixing Zarvani a later offshoot of Zorashtianism with the main religion. Thats like a Sasanids creation which is partly why Iranians/Persians were fed up with them and allowed the Muslim invaders to essentially invade! Sassanids were drifting towards western style degeneracy, and peasants and people of Iran didn't like that (much like the Shah) thats why their massive modern army lost to the rather crude caliphate army. In classical Zardtoshti, Ahura Mazda is the main top only creator of everything including Ahriman(evil or angra manyun). Ahura Mazda is God almighty or Allah. Zardoshtism or Zorashtrianism is a monotheist religion. Conviction of men is what matters because they make up the body of the religion, of course the head of the religious establishment wont accept a new prophet, that would be a risk to their positions and beliefs. What you mentioned about budhists is interesting, so they had heard about Jesus too? But Buddhist worship Buddha who is man and a prince who later became enlightened, but he is not a prophet, he is more like a guide rather than an imam or a higher level prophet... you know there are levels to it.... Also God of Abraham, is not only Abrahams, he is the creator of all things, the one and only, alpha and omega, before and after and thats what Ahura Mazda is, so in definition and concept Ahura Mazda is God, or Allah. It's just a different name, but it behooves us to call it by its proper name which I think is Allah, in english is God, in Farsi is Khoda and ancient Persians called him Ahura Mazda. Now that I think about it, the Hu and Ahuramazda sounds a lot like Hu (hova, hoo) which is one of the names of Allah. But call it whatever you want, the concept remains the same, the one and only.
If Allah went to the trouble of making people think Jesus died on the cross, it seems like he would want me to believe that Jesus die on the cross.
how could we save jesus
@padeenuyakorn2304 We can't save Jesus-that's the whole point. Jesus saved us because he was willing.
@@oliverrawlinson2666 why not farther willing
@@padeenuyakorn2304 Because if only God the father wanted Jesus to go down to Earth, it wouldn't be any better than Islam, which punishes a Jew or christian for every Muslim that enters paradise.
Which means allah created Christianity!
Allah is in fact the self proclaimed best of schemers 😂😂😂😂
Aal-e-Imran 3:54
وَمَكَرُواْ وَمَكَرَ ٱللَّهُۖ وَٱللَّهُ خَيۡرُ ٱلۡمَٰكِرِينَ
And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers.
Allah promised to make Jesus's followers superior to the unbelievers until the day of Resurrection. According to Muslims, Jesus's message was corrupted and lost within one century.
Either a) allah was unable to preserve the Gospel. St. Paul is more powerful and influential than allah. Or, b) allah deliberately preserved and promoted a false religion for centuries.
In either case, how can a Muslim be sure that his religion has not been hopelessly corrupted?
the muslim response will be allah does what he wants, including changing his mind, predestining people to hell, etc
@InitialPC
but muslim did say allah can't have a son because he doesn't have a partner (momo did also say this too)
@mrniceguy8298
Mary - "how can i have a son since I don't have a spouse?"
Allah - i can do everything
Also allah - i can't have a son. I don't even have a spouse!
There is massive differences between "Allah was UNABLE to preserve the Gospel" and "Allah was DIDN'T preserve the Gospel". Allah didn't preserve the previous message because it was a message only for people of that time. But Prophet Muhammad was the last messenger and Qur'an was a message of all human, so Allah preserve it.
(15;9) - "We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption)."
(17;88) - "Surely, if mankind and jinn were to get together to produce the like of this Qur'an, they will never be able to produce the like of it, howsoever they might help one another.
And so far, after more than one thousand years, there has not been many version of Qur'an.
@@mochithepooh5368 except this contradicts other parts of the quran that says it is a revelation only for the arabs
also, there are still multiple versions of the quran so muslims cannot claim perfect preservation
I know Islam and it's laws were completely non-existent and irrelevant in Jesus' time... For the sake of the argument, even if it were, Jesus still wouldn't follow it because he didn't live by Arabian culture, he was a Jew who lived in Palestine/Judea... Allah was the god of Arabia, not the God of the Jews. He would basically rebuke it as false anyways because basically led people astray from his teachings and spread their religion by violence. Muslims try to be inclusive with themselves but they are completely irrelevant. Plus Jesus is from the lineage of Isaac, not Ishmael. Meaning he is a Jew that was a part of God's covenant with Isaac. Jews and ishmaelites were enemies, so the fact that Muslims claim Jewish prophets is absolutely ludicrous.
What if I said jesus was God of America that would be preposterous, right? In your view, jesus is God of everything, and Muslims view Allah the same way.
@@alo3194 in a cultural sense, I'm talking in human sense actually, people in the regions of Palestine, northern Africa, everywhere else except for Arabia didn't worship Allah. It was imposed on them by military force. I say this b/c Muslims try to act like they rule everything even when they dont. The religion of Islam was invented in Arabia, thus it is of that region. It is only prevalent in other regions now because of muhammads conquest.
Just like Jews in Judea and their culture. I say this to contest the fact that Muslims try to claim every Jewish religious figure as their own when it literally has nothing to do with them. And Jewish people don't abide by the same laws and culture as Muslims. So it's not all inclusive. But in the 1st century none of that mattered cus Islam didn't even exist yet. Christians of the early church spread faith by preaching, not by chopping heads. The Muslims had to force it on people cus no one took them seriously.
@@In-Astrisit's hard to not take someone seriously when there kidnapping your kids and raping your woman. In truth that was the only way for muslims to make people believe them, that and bribing them with the promis of a bunch of sex salves and kid wives. So the poor muslims had no choice, can't really blame them.
@@In-Astris And doing that doesn't seem like Muslims weren't good then
@Mrchosen-c4g I appreciate your response but I respectfully disagree as well. You presented a much cleaner version of what Islam is than what the reality of the religion is... The transcendent part is non-existent, it's them against everyone i.e. jihad against infidels .. Muhammad created a law that was contrary to other Abrahamic laws and basically laid the foundation of whoever doesn't follow those laws deserve punishment, oppression, taxation or death... Hence nearly every Islamic Arabic fascist regime that's reigned in the Middle East and Africa... They only spread by conquest and violence. Yet their literature tries to imply that they're peaceful. They're only peaceful if you obey them. The main kicker, they do appropriate Jewish religious figures for themselves and call them Muslim, stripping their real identity as Jews, just as they stripped Jesus of his divinity and denied his crucifixion and changed the story to fit their narrative.
. Not only that, they take these holy jewish prophets for their own story and then wage war with actual Jews and commend their Muslim brothers for killing Jews, it's even condoned in their Quran to kill jews.
Allah is not the Father that Jesus preached and taught about, it is not the same God. Allah is not YHWH at all. They are different, it isn't simply just a translation of the same thing, we have two different distinct personalities that say different things and instructions distinct from eachother meaning they are not the same God.... Jews and Christians aren't required to speak Arabic to speak to their God.
If Muhammad was following the God Jesus described he wouldn't have created a religion that completely contradicted Jesus' teachings, owned slaves, conquered, killed people, have concubines, multiple wives, unlawful marriages, fortune, power, political power, etc. Muhammad was an antichrist compared to Jesus. He distorted Abrahamic religion and turned it into worldly, sensual pleasure instead of spiritual virtue, even claiming heaven to have lustful sensual pleasures... To call Muhammad a holy man is to be completely ignorant to what holy is. That doesn't sound like transparency and inclusivity to me. They are completely opposed to eachother
This might surprise some people to learn but in the shariah law it explicitly says that Islam is gnostic. It’s not that surprising given that the Quran contains material from gnostic gospels like the gospel of Thomas.
source??
@@kareemsultan8989 the quran mentions jesus as a child sculpting birds from clay and bringing them to life, this comes from the infancy gospel of thomas
@@InitialPC the gospel of thomas is not in the Bible
@@nameloc9076 yeah because is gnostic and that is why the church considers it false. Furthermore, Islam took as a reference to Christianity many texts and beliefs of heretical Christian sects that were found in Arabia and the Near East, as if they were the doctrine and dogmas that the Catholic Church truly believes, but evidently this is not the case.
@@nameloc9076 literally nobody said it was
The argument from silence can only protect Islam for so long. When it keeps occurring across multiple points, you know something isn’t right.
Then why is it the fastest growing religion
I'll give the answer, it's called Hanifism.
@@Aaisha_is1 Because they convert by the sword.
no ones silent. The internet is full of answers to the same brain rot questions you people ask every fking time.
@@Aaisha_is1 Because the children of Muslim parents are automatically forced to become Muslims, and the penalty for leaving Islam is death. So many people leave but pretend to still be Muslims.
Dr. Jay Smith's talks on the origin of Islam are very fascinating. His argument is that the original "Muslims" were a mix of anti-trinitarian Christian heretics and Jews, and the idea of an Arab prophet promoting a separate and distinct religion called "Islam" came later. In all likelihood, the original Muslims were probably ideological descendents of the Judaizers that Paul rails against in his letter to the Galatians.
More or less, Muhammad was a mediocre preacher, combining Christianity, Judaism and heretical interpretations of both religions. Even the Fathers of the Church at that century refuted Islam not as a religion, but as a Christian heresy. It is mentioned in the Hadiths that Muhammad destroyed the idols of Kaaba, but left intact the icons of Virgin Mary and Jesus....
Aren't they ishmaelites?
+ add a touch of Nestorianism and Docetism, and iconoclasm
I recently took a interest into his vids, they weren't lying about the holey book, and their history is holey too.
He is wrong.
As an Orthodox apologist, seeing the history of Islam and the mental gymnastics that goes into it, and what they stole from us, its laughable…
off topic, I’d love to see Testify’s opinion on Yahwism, because a lot of Atheists, or the ones i debate seem to think it makes Christianity false
Catholic here-what exactly is yahwism?
@@johannthedeceitful5968afik, it’s basically what Israel believed during 1 and 2 Kings. The worshipped Yahweh, but they also worshipped a bunch of other gods and incorporated a lot of pagan practices. I could be wrong though.
@@johannthedeceitful5968 According to gotquestions
"Modern Yahwism holds the Hebrew Bible to be the sole authoritative book. Yahwism also accepts the Synoptic Gospels and the epistle of James (since they see those books as supporting the Hebrew Bible). Yahwists reject the Gospel of John and the writings of Paul (a Pharisee who was not included in the original twelve disciples), believing that those books represent human attempts to add to Yahweh’s Word. They also reject the Talmud and all rabbinical additions to the Tanakh.
Yahwism rejects the doctrine of the Trinity, teaching that Yahweh cannot be “divided” into different persons or beings. Of course, saying that God is “divided” into Father, Son, and Spirit misrepresents Trinitarian doctrine, but that is the wording used by Yahwists. Yahwism teaches that Yahshua (Jesus) honored the Torah and was a true teacher of Yahwism, but He was not divine in any way and did not die for anyone’s sins. Yahwism teaches that salvation only comes through keeping Yahweh’s covenant in the Torah faithfully."
In short, morons.
@@GogakuOtaku Apparently ancient Israelites believed at some point that deities of other religions do exist, but they're inferior to Yaweh. They believed in a single superior God, but weren't purely monotheistic either.
@@roseandsword. sounds about right.
Claiming continuity with texts that contradict yours, they will never be able to answer the Islamic dilemma.
@HarisP000 Mark 10:18 Jesus asks thought-provoking question 'Why do you call me good? Noone is good except God alone.' yet in John 10:11 Jesus is the 'good shepherd' plus in 1 Peter 2:20-22, 1 Peter 1:18-19, Hebrews 4:15-16, John 8:45-47, Isaiah 53:1-12 Jesus is sinless which means he is perfect in moral attributes.
Mark 14:62, Matthew 26:64 Christ quotes from passage in Daniel 7:9-14 where in vrs 9 there are throne(s) plural and vrs 13-14 the one who looks as a Son of Man (Christ) coming to the Ancient of Days (Father) and it speaks of their universal worship which is why in Revelation 4, 5 we see the Father and Christ universal worship just as prophesied by the prophet Daniel and quoted by Christ himself. Mark 1, Luke 3, Matthew 3 prologue quotes Isaiah 40:3 and applies it to John the Baptist and Jesus it says John is preparing the way for Christ but the passage in Isaiah says 'Preparing the way for our God' so Christ is God according to that passage. John 1 states In the beginning was the Word the Word was with God the Word was God the Word became flesh. Revelation 19:11-13 the title 'Word of God' is indicted to Christ. In John 5:23 Christ calls for all to honour the Son just as you honour the Father and that anyone who does not do this dishonours the Father who sent him. John 8:39-40 Jesus says to the Jews 'why you stoning me, abraham never did this.' Meaning that Abraham had the freewill choice on whether or not to stone Jesus. The Jews picked up on this vrs 56-58 and asked 'you are not yet 50 years old yet you have seen abraham?' Jesus says 'Verily verily, I say unto you Before Abraham was, I am.' John 10:27-30 Vrs 27-28 Christ has his sheep and none deliver out of his hands this is an action indicted to God deuteronomy 32:39 and he says ditto (same) for his Father in vrs 29 'my Father who is greater than all also has his sheep and none deliver out of his hands.' Vrs 30 therefore 'I and the Father are one' shows they are one in nature, ability, substance. John 20:28-29 disciple thomas says to Jesus 'my Lord and my God' jesus does not refute him instead he says 'You believe for you have seen me blessed are those who believe yet have not seen me.' Revelation 1:17-18, 2:8 Christ is the 'First and the Last' Isaiah 44:6, 43:11, 48:12 God is the 'First and the Last' Revelation 3:20 Christ is the one who knocks upon our consciousness in order to be accepted as Lord and Saviour. Romans 10:9, 13, Acts 2:38. Revelation 4, 5 the Father and Christ are universally worshipped just as prophesied by the prophet Daniel and quoted by Christ. Revelation 21:6, 22:13 the Father and Christ are Alpha and Omega, Beginning and End, First and Last. Matthew 28:19 says baptising in the name of Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Isaiah 9:6 states there is Child to be born a Son of God whose name is to be the mighty God el gibbor.
Surah 2:40-44 - Surah 2:89 - Surah 2:91 - Surah 2:97 - Surah 2:101 - Surah 3:3-4 - Surah 3:81 - Surah 4:47 - Surah 5:43-48 - Surah 5:68 - Surah 6:115 - Surah 7:157 - Surah 18:27 - Surah 35:31 - Surah 46:30 - Sunan Abu Dawud 4449 - Quran confirms 7th century Torah and Christian Gospel and says for us to judge by Torah and Gospel that none change Allah's words and that we are to expect prophecies of Muhammad within those scriptures yet we have full bibles centuries before Muhammad but our scriptures contradict with your scriptures.
Sahih Bukhari 5134 - Sahih Bukhari 6130 - Sahih Muslim 1422C - Sahih Bukhari 6307 - Muhammad consummated (sex) with a 9 year old and the added Islamic commentary states the only reason why she was allowed to play with dolls at the age of 9 is because she had not yet reached the age of puberty for she was just a little girl yet Surah 33:21 Muhammad is meant to be moral examplar for all times not just a specific culture and Surah 68:4 an excellent example and even in Sahih Bukhari 6307 Muhammad by his own admission is an imperfect sinner since he repents 70 times daily.
@HarisP000 You have no idea what you’re talking about this is so low tier 😂 the divinity of Christ and Gods Triunity is all throughout the old and New Testament, if that’s what you want to debate then fine. Yes the Old Testament too 💀
The council of Nicea didn’t teach new revelation, it dogmatized the beliefs of the apostles and their disciples. Don’t pretend you understand church history or the Christian position. Do you even know what Nicea discussed?
We can discuss Gods Triunity in the Old Testament, and no Jesus is God He is uncreated. This multiple versions argument is terrible, we have the original manuscripts so go read the koine Greek or Hebrew if you can. You’ll probably use a translation like the rest of us 😂
Farid already destroyed it multiple times. The Quran confirms the unaltered original revelations it's really not that hard to understand
@ prove biblical corruption from the Quran, if you want to go down the biblical corruption route you’re going to raise many issues. We have the scriptures from before the Quran, they perfectly match all the others.
Can you make an actual argument? I don’t even care if you parrot this farid guy but “the Bible is corrupt” does not answer the dilemma 😂
@@rqezeezezeze Surah 2:40-44 - Surah 2:89 - Surah 2:91 - Surah 2:97 - Surah 2:101 - Surah 3:3-4 - Surah 3:81 - Surah 4:47 - Surah 5:43-48 - Surah 5:68 - Surah 6:115 - Surah 7:157 - Surah 18:27 - Surah 35:31 - Surah 46:30 - Sunan Abu Dawud 4449 - Quran confirms 7th century Torah and Christian Gospel and says for us to judge by Torah and Gospel (5:68). That None change Allah's words (6:115). and that you are to expect prophecies of Muhammad within those scriptures (7:157). yet we have full Bibles centuries before Muhammad but our scriptures have no continuity with your scriptures.
Quran confirms Bible:
1. If Bible is false the Quran is false for confirming a false document.
2. If Bible is true you have to accept Jesus as Lord and Saviour and there is no room for Muhammad, Islam or Quran.
Sahih Bukhari 5134 - Sahih Bukhari 6130 - Sahih Muslim 1422C - Sahih Bukhari 6307 - Sahih Bukhari 5215 - Muhammad consummated (sex) with a 9 year old girl and the added Islamic commentary states the only reason why she was allowed to play with dolls at the age of 9 is because she had not yet reached the age of puberty for she was just a little girl and even by Muhammad's own admission he is an imperfect sinner as seen in Sahih Bukhari 6307 he repents 70 times daily and in Surah 40:55 Muhammad has sins which he is being forgiven of. Muhammad practiced hypocrisy by preaching that its ordained for Muslim men to have maximum up to 4 wives yet he himself slept with 9 wives in 1 night Sahih Bukhari 5215. Muslims will rightly point out polygamy in the Old Testament however show me where a prophet preaches to have a specific set of wives but then breaches it himself. Further proof that Muhammad is imperfect sinner.
This is in incomparable comparison with Christ who is completely sinless according to 1 Peter 1:18-19, 2:20-22, Hebrews 4:15-16, John 8:45-47, Isaiah 53:1-12 and even according to Sahih Bukhari 4712 all the prophets are involved in a cutscene and all the prophets name their mistake/sins but it says only for Jesus 'he will not name a sin' Jesus in his sinlessness claims divinity he says I am Alpha and Omega, Beginning and End, First and Last. Revelation 22:13.
They can't answer "Where is the wall of Dhul Quarnayn or the hordes it protects us from?" "Where are the stones that pelted the people of the elephant". Or, where is the archaeology that affirms that Mecca is as old as Abraham.
@HarisP000 who was dhal qurnayn? can't say Alex the great as he was gay and not a monotheist. Also, where are this tribe of people being hidden for thousands of years without food or healthcare?
@HarisP000 Q doesn't say it is hidden. That is a desperate excuse.
It is basically pottery and we find pottery much older.
What? The city has been excavated for development and nothing was found.
@HarisP000 What archaeology? I am asking about Mecca as the Q claims it is as old as Abraham. It has been excavated for development and nothing has been found to support the Qs claims. The Q is the primary source. What other source is over it?
In contrast, they find tons of archarology to support the Bible's claims around Jerusalem.
@HarisP000 Where is Gog and Magog? Behind a giant wall bridging two mountains that no one can find. It is made of iron and copper, two valuable resources. It has to remain until the last day. If it were real, then we should be able to find it. The Q does not tell us it is hidden or secreted away. It claims it exists.
@@chrisazure1624 dude mecca in archeology mecca is older it was mentioned by name during augustus conquest of arabia felix
The Qur'an says that no city or district or community will ne destoryed except that they have gotten a messenger, and also every community will eventually be destroyed (by the Last Day). This means that the existence of any city after Islam began disproves Islam.
@@toomanymarys7355 so, which city did Allah dstoy after began??? 🤔
Hey Muslims before you go out of your way to find even the tiniest sect of people who were close to to your religion, keep in mind Allah making something incredibly clear:
*The disciples of Jesus who made Christianity spread like wild-fire are ‘Muslims’*
(Surah 3:55 & 61:14)
So according to this, the religion that supposedly spread like wild-fire by the disciples was actually Islam, and Allah promised to make them victorious in their preaching, making their message dominant until the day of judgement.
But what was the message of the disciples of Jesus?
Now you’re left with two options:
1. Allah failed to make their message dominant
2. The message that was made dominant contradicts Islam, and was Christianity.
Either way Islam is false.
According to Islam, God has already sent the Bible. Christians and Jews before the revelation of the Quran are also considered Muslims.
@HarisP000 Early Christians always believed in the trinity
@@bosnak18Ok so someone who believed Jesus was the divine Son of God and worshipped him, believed he was crucified and rose from the dead were Muslims? And jews who didn't consider Jesus even a prophet were Muslims?
Nope
@HarisP000Haha nope. Allah promised to make their message dominant until then day of judgement. You forgot that part didn't you? Read the verses. That means if someone corrupted it, its allahs fault.
And early Christians did believe in the trinity. I can name more people who did than didn't.
“If they are wrong Jesus led them astray” lmao false. No verse to support your claim
@@pizzaninja5145 Before the Quran was revealed, those who believed in the prophets (including Jesus) and did good deeds were considered Muslims (according to the Quran)
You should do a video on gnostics vs muslims.
Islam copied the gnostics like the infancy gospel the basilides where Jesus wasn’t crucified and so much more it’s basically a heretical offshoot of Christianity
@@DivineJustice-xl1jw
Islam was probably a anti-trinitan heretic group at first and not meant to be the religion it is today.
False vs. False? Sounds weird
I see no difference
Worship of Allah (Hubal/Baal/Moloch) has existed far longer than Muhammad. Jezebel/Jezebaal was a true believer and prophet of Allah (Hubal/Baal/Moloch) all the way to her death.
Baal is a name of the devil
@@AdamRBLX Yes
Jezebel was born in 825 BCE, even jesus was not yet born, claiming god from other religion to making it right. Stop coping things
Are you talking about Jezebaal from the Bible?
@@mrbirgaming2384he is using satire. Baal is a satanic deity.
When you ask muslim the question they don’t know the answer, the only best response you’ll get is “Allah knows the best” hahaha
zaid bin nofil he had his beliefs before Muhammad became a prophet. Now I'll ask you a question that no Christian ever gives me an answer for why would the all loving God allow Moses to commit a genocide against the Canaanites and amalekites in numbers 31 verse 17 and 18 and then tell his soldiers to take they're a little girls for their pleasure? And I have an even better question why would God just allow Moses to do that instead of punishing Moses he allowed Moses to get to heaven I know for a fact if the prophet Muhammad literally did anything similar to what Moses did in numbers you Christians would be foaming at the mouth yelling all about what Muhammad did.
@@Michael-zi3kk first off if you know anything about the bible you know that God called israel his people because he told abraham that he will make his decendants a great nation and my people. To finish this point God used his people and his righteous Judgement and executioner; judging nations righteously by wiping them out. Those nations such as the amalekites, and caanites were wicked, they sacrificed their babies to false Gods (pagan gods) They did evil and wicked things beyond reason. Secondly I read the hebrew version of the verse and the verb/conjuction "for yourselves" in the verse translates to לָכֶֽם׃ ".which means to you, if you read the chapter it talks about a plauge. This was most likely meaning the young women were to become slaves because they weren't infected with the plauge because they didn't have any intimacy with any man yet. Even if in the case moses were saying it like the way you're mentioning it he will be judged righteously like everyone else.
Muhammad told you guys to do it and do it to as many opposing war sex slaves as you guys can get. Not once does God mention to do this in the bible even if moses did this he never told anyone to do it and kept God's laws otherwise israel would have never gottn to the promise land. ; and Moses is a prophet in islam so you are سبّ النبي a prophet you so adore.
Read the bible.
@Michael-zi3kk so you think you can offend prophet Musa and Allah just like that? Weird thing to do, but I'll still answer your question. It's actually weird that none of the Christians answered your questions already, because they're pretty simple.
The thing is, you're trying to portray it as if Moses just ordered to kill all Canaanites by his own will, and God just allowed him to do it. But it's not true at all. It was actually the God Himself who commanded Israelites to kill all their enemies without any mercy. You ask why, isn't the God all-loving? Sure He is, but you must not forget that He's also just, and that He punishes those who deserve it, which is exactly the case with Canaanites. Because they weren't just some random innocent people that needed to be genocided in order for Israelites to have a land. No, they were evil, sinful and wicked, and already had no more chance for redemption. They worshipped false gods and killed their own children as a sacrifice, they had all sorts of sexual immorality like homosexuality, bestiality, incest and ritual prostitution, and committed many more sins which were widespread through their land. They did all of this in all the years that Israelites were in slavery in Egypt and never repented before God, continuing to be stubborn in their wicked ways. So when God commanded the Israelites to slaughter all of the Canaanites, it was really just a delivery of a divine justice. That's why God allowed Moses to go into Heaven, because he did exactly as God commanded to him and did nothing wrong. Unlike you, who doubts Lord's will and justice, and therefore is a blasphemer.
But there's also one reason besides that, and it's that Canaanites needed to be killed so that Israelites would not keep their traditions and practices alive, as they were the chosen nation to worship one true God and keep his laws, so that eventually a Messiah would be born out of that nation to give salvation to all people on earth. Israelites needed to be separated from the pagan world, because as we can see from the Bible, they barely managed to do that. They always kept returning to worshipping idols and forgeting the law that has been given to them, so would they do better if they kept Canaanites alive? Of course not!
And that's exactly why for many, God seems more violent and punishing in the Old Testament compared to the New Testament, even though that's not true. Because those were the ancient times, when the entire humanity abandoned God and started creating their own gods. Jesus said exactly that, that many of the laws were given because people had hard hearts and Israelites needed to have those hard punishments by the law, because otherwise they would just fall into idolatry like the rest of the world did, instead of worshipping one true God.
But when Jesus came, He finally told people about the God's love, and about the fact that we should love not only those that are nice to us, but also our enemies. The old law is no longer relevant, because it was always supposed to be temporary to prepare the world for the coming of Jesus. And when Jesus did come, he taught us the law of love that will always be relevant and which will not ever die.
You also said that Muhammad never did anything like this, despite the fact that he did. He preached Islam in pagan Arabia through wars and murders, including taking female prisoners for their own purposes. Except unlike Moses, Mohammed did not live in the ancient times before Jesus, whose followers were initiallly persecuted for a very long time and did not fight their oppressors. He lived 600 years after Jesus delivered his message about turning the other cheek. Jesus said: "all those who take up the sword will perish by the sword", but Mohammed preached his message with a sword. Jesus also said the Apostles not to send hailfire on a Samaritan town that did not accept Him, but all Mohammed did was sending fire on the cities. So who's the true God's prophet here?
@@Michael-zi3kknotice how you didn't get a response from the main comment or literally any other Christian?
@AmarJ. it's because these people aren't real Christian I bet you 90% of these people who comment on these videos to try to escape from their miserable lives and have never read the Bible let alone the quran. So when anybody ever comes into their safe space to challenge them they don't know how to respond. Another thing is is that these people constantly insult us our religion and our prophet. Real Christians are great people and their closest friends and allies they don't go around insulting our prophet and they actually come with an open mind and try to understand where we're coming from so that's why I try my best to do the same with actual Christians not these people. I mean just look at testifies video reacting to Holy Kool-Aid an atheist he literally opens up the video saying I don't have answers to all of these questions. Then go to Christians trying to defend Numbers 31 vs 17 and 18th none of them ever have a response to either of those two questions. Anyway it's not Christian fault that these losers claim to be christians.
Queue the: "There were true followers"
Source?
"Trust me bro"
Trust me bro seems like a lot of Muhammad’s sources
@HarisP000 What happened to them?? 😂
@@raphaelfeneje486 Apparently they were philosophers both died by 135. Leaving a gap of still over 400 years
@@someperson3883 What about the philosophers and what has that got to do with Islam? Did they believe in Islam?💀
@@raphaelfeneje486 I don’t know. I’m just saying that in order to close to gap from Jesus’s life on earth to Muhammad. 2 philosophers ain’t gonna fix that gap. However neither seem to be “Muslim”
Further, according to the Qur'an itself, Surah 61:14 (AKA Surah As-Saff), the true followers of Allah in Jesus's time were protected and became 'uppermost' (or dominant or otherwise, depending on how you translate it: the meaning's clear regardless).
So, which followers of Jesus were successful?
...the Christians.
Christianity.
According to the Qur'an, Allah created Christianity and helped them become uppermost.
If Christianity is false and Islam is true, that means Christianity is a prank Allah has yet to rescind. It's Allah's fault.
No wonder Abu Bakr stated that even if he had one foot in paradise, he wouldn't trust Allah's deception! Allah sounds more like the Loki of Nordic mythology than the real God.
Christianity is the second best religion for the wrong reasons. It is true that Allah was the one who exalted christianity above the disbelievers/jews. Not the one who will come back at the end times and preach that christians were ‘wrong’ about jesus.
So what’s your point?
I disagree, The Canaanites were Muslims, they followed Baal.
I disagree, we don't worship Baal.
@ I know, I’m just being facetious.
This video should go viral! I hope!
Me too! I can’t wait for Muslims to prove him wrong
peace to you my friend. I am ex muslim alhamdulijesus
wonderful channel and work you do!
A Muslim’s point of view right now: Ummm 🤔 -Hmmm 🤨-Duhhh 🤪-La 🗣️🎶-Lah!!!
@@ZabirZimbut he's not crazy!!!!!!!!! Cause even I'm like that. And I'm not muslim
@@ZabirZim rasulallah was cr azy . He used to claim that he got revelations in the form of ringing bells, similar to people having me ntal iss ues.
@@ChristianityExplained-ri8yo i'd say it's more like "alif lam meem", the letters that "Allah knows best" what they mean
@@ZabirZim Are you DRUNK AND CRAZY?????
Before mahamed was born there is ABSOLUTELY NO allah in :
HISTORY
GEOGRAPHY
ARCHEOLOGY
LANGUAGE (arabic)
SCHOLARSHIP
TORAH
GOSPELS
MANUSCRIPTS
THIRD PARTY CRITICS
ABSOLUTELY ZERO!!! ZERO ZERO ZERO. Hmmmmm… Looks like (mahamed), created a pagan god to me.
No Muslim has answered Surah 9:29
It was sent at the Battle of Tabuk, not a random time
They should first answer why a Old man Mohammad married 9y.o Ayesha is justified
why does having multiple wives in Islam accepted but one wife can't have multiple husbands lol
So much productive time wasted debating on the hallucinations of an illiterate self proclaimed 7th century bedouin and caravan robber. Isn't it?
Ex muslin and follower of Lord Jesus Christ here…
Good to hear
No need for retards in Islam
@@tabasimk9568 you're on the right path
very funny how not a single "ex muslim" here cant name me a single aqeedah book
how many rakat in wudhu? :D
Time to bring out the good old how many rakat in wudhu.
I have read so many comments and replies, some of them from Muslims clarifying different stuff that people asked about, yet not a single one of them answered what was brought up in the video. 😅
we believe the last prophet was Muhammed (pbuh), and the one before him was isa(as).
Bro, that's their modus operandi, they obfuscate profusely🤣
do you guys seriously believe that Muhammed made islam up?
islam literally meant to worship 1 god, Allah and obey the prophet at the time
@@nasiashabelow7093 Still haven't answered the question
@@nasiashabelow7093 we know he didn't make it up by himself. Satan inspired him to. Jesus literally tells us about it and Muhammad describes the angel behaving just like the devil would.
less gooo new Testify video
Even Zoroastrians who existed at the time and were "monotheistic" don't fit the bill, Ahura Mazda is not the same God as Allah, the description of Allah is not even close to Ahura Mazda lol
the real name of allah is al-lah, his name is lah. the pre-arabic moon deity.
There are certain sects in Hinduism which holds pure monotheism.
@@chaosinfernoid9008 that would explain why all muslim countries use the moon in their flags
@@OMMANIPADMEHUM8 I mean today sure, but do you have evidence of that in the pre-Islamic world? That still wouldn't hold the water necessary for Testify's challenge since they don't believe Jesus was a prophet (which is necessary to being Muslim as the video describes)
Spread the word brother we need more PPL like you
I swear ive asked this question like my whole life. They cant name one muslim between the time of jesus and muhamad. Bro i just feel like your defending my whole belief throughout your videos.
It's called Hanifism. The religion of the Arabs who were the descendants of Ishmael. They follow Ishmael's religion. This religion was also recorded in the Talmud but they don't mention the religion as Hanifism
@@Ligg7099 hanfinism doesnt fullfill the above criterias of being muslim cuz they dont belief jesus as a messiah. There almost alike jews(they believe jesus was executed).
@HarisP000 What are you talking about??😂
@@Josh-te7si it does because Jesus was sent to the Israelites/Jews. The hanifs were Arabs. Before the birth of the Prophet Muhammad (SAW), it was not compulsory for individuals to believe in the prophethood of other prophets sent to different nations.
I have a similar question: where are the true disciples of Jesus? According to Surah 3:52 his disciples declared themselves to be Muslims. 😂😂😂
And in Surah 3:55, Allah promised to Jesus that his disciples will be superior to those who disbelieve until the day of resurrection. So where are these disciples? The only disciples of Jesus I know are Christians, and they indeed are powerful.
Here I can answer it. Every single direct followers(aka those who lives among the Prophets) of every single Prophet. You can't find the answer because you're applying modern doctrine and applied it to the past when we muslim believe it has been corrupted.
We have records of what the direct followers actually taught, and it does not align eith islam
Challenge accepted:
In Islam, we believe that whoever believed in the prophets who sent the holy message of salvation, were the Muslims of the time. For example, the followers of Moses (pbuh). they did not believe in Jesus to be a prophet because he was not born yet, neither was Muhammed (pbuh) born yet. So for them to believe in prophets who were non existent at the time makes no sense. The Jews did believe that there would be prophets yet to come, but who they were does not matter until they are alive and preaching. The Jews are the Muslims before the christians. Any Jew who has heard and yet, denied the message of Jesus (pbuh) is going to hell according to Islam. Why? Because they denied the word of god. (You made a mistake in the video) anyone who might have believed in the death of Jesus christ (pbuh) as well as his message (before the Quran was revealed) would NOT be punished because Allāh has said himself in the Quran:4/157: “-And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption.” So whoever did not have the knowledge of Jesus surviving, is not said to be punished, but it is said that they don’t know the truth. So even any Christian’s who believed that Jesus was crucified,(because they did not know the truth) as long as they believed in the one true god, they will also be called Muslims.
In summary, the Jews who followed the Torah before Jesus are considered as Muslims.
And the Christian’s who believed in the true message of Jesus before Muhammed, are also Muslims.
The Quran even praises the true Christian’s who followed Allahs path as very great people.
See chapter 18 of the Quran, the companions of the cave were Christians. And the Quran also praises Moses, (he had no knowledge of Jesus) and Mary (who had no knowledge of Muhammed) as some of the greatest people to have walked this earth.
You missed the point. Point of this video is that there were no Christians that believed the Muslim version of "true message" of Jesus. Author listed all the groups at the time and the things that they believed in.
All Christians believed that Jesus was God. Point of being a Christian is to follow Christ. Christians must believe in Christ, love everyone and take their suffering with no complaints. Core of Christian belief is: He came from Heavens, He preached, He gave His life as an ultimate act of love; to redeem humanity, He raised from the death, so whoever believes in Him will rise.
Islam is preaching a very different story and different set of values. Both cannot be true.
@ the Quran talks about the companions of the cave, read about them first.
@@Luilucid4733 Thanks for that.
What did the companions of the cave believe in?
Ito relate to your explanation , what did the followers of Christ believe in?
Are there any references for them or are they just companions of the cave?
@@83cookey They believed in monotheism and lived after the time of Jesus (peace be upon him) but before the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). While we don’t have the exact name of their religion, they likely lived a monotheistic life similar to Prophet Abraham (peace be upon him), who worshipped Allah without following a formally named religion.
The Qur’an narrates their story in Chapter 18 (Surah Al-Kahf), praising their unwavering dedication to Allah. While Testify asked about one person, the Companions of the Cave were a group of about seven individuals, so I believe I addressed his question thoroughly.
@@Luilucid4733 Historically, there is no evidence for either a city of mecca, or a guy Md born there. Ever wondered why there is no original 7th century muhammed quran? No original 7th century Uthman qurans? No original 7th century hadiths/sira? Because it never happened. All the evidence points to a later fabrication, redacted back to the 7th century and a fake city and a fake cult founder. That is why so much of the quran is borrowed from other known texts: Gnostic Christian, Jewish Talmud and even popular stories such as the Alexander Romance literature. It is the most obviously man-made concoction by poorly educated scribes who couldn't get the facts straight even from the material they were borrowing from. Listen to any of Dr Jay Smith's recent lectures that summarize the evidence on how this cult really began.
Without Lust Islam is Dust 😤💨🌚
@@PM_Narendra_Modi_01 ahh an indian of course
@eshalhumayun2351 hhhhhaaa That's an average activites of Converted Indian subcontinent Muslims...
@PM_Narendra_Modi_01 first go and save your cows from the slaughters in india 1 billion people cannot save a single cow and the holy lake is full of trash and pollution
Brother, in his own video, he said "arguments from silence are not necessarily fallacious" and the type of argument from silence he referred to as "precarious" in that video is those which extrapolate from small silences. 500 years with no sign of a single "true" follower of Allah is a huge glaring indication that Islam has no authentic history prior to Mohammed. It's shameful that you can't refute Testify without misquoting him.
1: If Jesus was a messenger, why Allah sent Mohammed? Was it necessary?
2: If Jesus was a Muslim, why wasn't there a Muslim before Mohammed? You called Qurayish era or non-Islamic era
The first question is because no one believed in Islam when they saw Jesus and then they thought it was Christianity so that’s why they bring prophet Muhammed pbuh The second one was like the first one no one believed in him and they thought was Christianity go tomat Allah guide you😊
@@et_matrix 1 minute Research bro
Jesus Is the way truth and the life ✝️👑
Amen. Muslims pray for guidance to the straight path. Jesus is giving them the answer _"I _*__am_* the way"_ ➜ 👣👣👣✝️☁️
amen
@@LionOf.Christ stole lines from Hinduism 🤣🤣
@@Nafisha_khan_1235 Without Lies Islam Dies 💀
@@LionOf.Christ could not agree more 😊
Technically the true followers of Allah did exist from near the dawn of time. But not as Muslims. Islam and Allah is effectively the Reformation of Hubaal worship. Sort of like the Protestant Reformation in a way.
Why did Muhammad destroy every shrine other than the Kabba? The Shrine for Hubaal? Hubaal is the same as Baal. Just languages change over time.
When you look into the Practices of what Baal worship contained and what they believe. Then you see the similarities to islam.
Funny enough it's quite literally in the symbol of Islam. Hubaal was a moon God.
I give an "F" grade on Islam's history paper. Didn't cite his sources.
00:20 "we" proving Christianity > Islam
@@El_Stompa Allah can be referred to as a plural as a form of glorification
@@bested101 just like The Trinity
@@El_Stompa you're not really that smart are you?
if that was the case the Qur'an would have been full of contradictions throughout cause it sometimes refers to Allah as singular and other times as plural. But that's not the case because refering to Allah as plural was only as a form of glorification and not meant to be taken as saying that Allah is more than one
@@bested101 It is full of contradictions
@@El_Stompa you're not very bright
Imagine Abraham, after Muslims tell him he built the Kabba in Mecca 😅
Why is that so impossible?
@@Michael-zi3kk Because the Kabba was a pagan shrine full of idols. And Abraham didn't go close to Mecca in his life. It's approximately 916 miles from where Abraham lived in Hebron, and in his journey from Ur in the Chaldees he specifically went via Haran and Damascus in the north, which is a route that avoids Mecca completely by a very wide margin.
@@Michael-zi3kkIt was built by pagans not Abraham
@xn85d2 dude we believe in a man parting the sea. God ending the world with Noah rescuing two of each animal and only a couple of people and then repopulating the world. And you guys believe in a man rising from the dead? why is it so impossible that God couldn't have helped Abraham get there?
@@LFCfan3928 proof?
May someone please explain to me these mistakes in the Quran?
The Quran makes many mistakes. They include:
Allah praying to himself???
Let us first look at the false english translation of the verse 33:56: Allah and His angels send blessings on the Prophet: O ye that believe! Send ye blessings on him, and salute him with all respect [1] And then look at the arabic version of the quran: إِنَّ اللَّهَ وَمَلَائِكَتَهُ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ ۚ يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا صَلُّوا عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا The words marked by red are ‘yusallun’ and ‘sallu’. They both come from the exact same root word - salah. Ask any muslim what salah means, and they will answer ‘pray’. So, the verse actually say ‘Allah and his angels pray on the Prophet: O ye that believe! Pray on him and ask for peace for him’. So, here we clearly see, that Allah actually prays on Muhammad! Not sending blessings on him, as the false translation wants us to believe. And the exact same action is done by the Angels. And on top of that, every muslim is commanded to do the same action! So, here we have Muhammad receiving the prayers from Allah, the Angels and every muslim. This shows us that Muhammad is the one receiving the worship of his false God. If Allah was the true God, why would he pray for Muhammad? No true God would ever pray. Who exactly is Allah praying to? Is he praying to himself? If Allah was the true God, wouldn’t it be enough that Allah prayed for Muhammed? Why do do Allah need the Angels and the believers pray on him too? Since Muhammed is the one receiving all these prayers, this shows us that Allah is but a toy in the hands of Muhammad. If Allah and the Angels and the followers of islam are praying to Muhammad, are they not committing shirk (taking partners with Allah)? Surah 4:82, “Do they not consider the Qur’an (with care)? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much discrepancy.”
Mistake: Thinking that the belief of the Trinity is three Gods Surah 4:171, “O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His apostles. Say not “Trinity”: desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs. Surah 5:73, “They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them.” (Ali)
Mistake: Mary as part of the Trinity Surah 5:116, “And behold! Allah will say: ‘O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah?” ” He will say: “Glory to Thee! Never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.” Now this wacky assertion may come from the Collyridians, a fringe sect in the Arabian peninsula that worked in the fourth and fifth centuries and they venerated Mary to the point of offering her bread sacrifices, but they were condemned as heretics by the broader Christian community. It’s like basing your entire understanding on Christianity on some cult that nobody pays mind to like the Mormons. Allah must’ve been confused somehow when authoring the Quran.
Mistake: Son of God means that God had sex with a woman Surah 6:101, “To Him is due the primal origin of the heavens and the earth: How can He have a son when He hath no consort? He created all things, and He hath full knowledge of all things.” What makes this even worse is that in Surah 19:35 it says:
“It is not befitting for Allah to take a son; glory be to Him! When He decrees a matter, He only says to it, ‘Be’, and it is.” A few verses earlier, Mary asks Gabriel how she will conceive without being touched by a man, and Gabriel assures her that God makes all things easy. So earlier, God needed a consort, but now he can just command a virgin birth into existence? This is an obvious contradiction as the Quran asserts that son of God means that God has to have sex, yet he can just conceive without it? And yet people still believe that it is Allah’s eternal speech and the perfect divine revelation, but why does it create straw men arguments about what Christians actually believe.
Mistake: Mary the mother of Jesus is the sister of Aaron Surah 19:27-28, “At length she brought the (babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms). They said: “O Mary! Truly an amazing thing hast thou brought! 28. “O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!” This is in reference to Mary, the mother of Jesus, was not the sister of Aaron. Miriam was the brother of Aaron. Aaron was born about 2000 years before Mary. This is another example of an error made in the Quran.
Who is the first Muslim? Was it Adam,?Abraham, Moses or Muhammad? You’ll get different answers in the Quran.
Was man made from clay, blood or semen?
A Muslim’s point of view right now: Ummm 🤔 -Hmmm 🤨-Duhhh 🤪-La 🗣️🎶-Lah!!!
‼️Quran error:
Muhammad getting his facts mixed up is clearly shown in Surah 9:30:
وَقَالَتِ ٱلْيَهُودُ عُزَيْرٌ ٱبْنُ ٱللَّهِ وَقَالَتِ ٱلنَّصَـٰرَى ٱلْمَسِيحُ ٱبْنُ ٱللَّهِ ۖ ذَٰلِكَ قَوْلُهُم بِأَفْوَٰهِهِمْ ۖ يُضَـٰهِـُٔونَ قَوْلَ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا۟ مِن قَبْلُ ۚ قَـٰتَلَهُمُ ٱللَّهُ ۚ أَنَّىٰ يُؤْفَكُونَ ٣٠
“The Jews say, “Ezra is the son of Allah,” while the Christians say, “The Messiah is the son of Allah.” Such are their baseless assertions, only parroting the words of earlier disbelievers. May Allah condemn them! How can they be deluded ˹from the truth˺?”
Here it tells us that Ezra is the Son of God, but no Jew ever said or believed that. You won’t find it in the Torah, the Talmud or anywhere else.
Some apologists may say that, “He WAs tAlKINg abOuT hIS FalSe sect in ARAbia.” But in Sahih Muslim, Book 1, Hadith 352 makes it clear that Muhammad wasn’t talking about a small fringe group:
“Then the Jews would be summoned, and it would be said to them: What did you worship? They will say: We worshipped ‘Uzair, son of Allah. It would be said to them: You tell a lie; Allah had never had a spouse or a son. What do you want now? They would say: We feel thirsty, O our Lord I Quench our thirst. They would be directed (to a certain direction) and asked: Why don’t you go there to drink water? Then they would be pushed towards the Fire (and they would find to their great dismay that) it was but a mirage (and the raging flames of fire) would be consuming one another, and they would fall into the Fire.”
This is all of the Jews as it doesn’t say “some Jews in this area”, but “the Jews”. If it meant a particular group then it should be more specific and clarify. I thought the Quran was supposed to be the clearest corpus of literature and exposition of all things. Why do you need the Hadiths? The Hadith is giving added context and they both are wrong. Apologists may say that Uzair is Osiris and not Ezra, but this is untrue and even worse for historical accuracy. If no Jew worshipped Ezra as divine, we have a massive problem in terms of historical accuracy. Jews still don’t worship Ezra as the son of God. This isn’t just a minor oopsie, THE QURAN GOT IT WRONG‼️
So long….
@@ZabirZim Obviously the Quran would say that. Do you mean the Bible?
I can't explain them all, I'm not a scholar or even an apologist, I'll try a few.
### Point I
Ling. Note #1: yuṣallūn(a)[a] is the 3rd person masculine plural (form II) imperfect verb form of the root ص ل و (ṣ-l-w), it did not come from الصَّلَاةَ (aṣ-ṣalāta).
Ling. Note #2: The root ص ل و (ṣ-l-w) have 2 main meanings[1], "To pray" and "To supplicate" (Arabic of course had other meanings on the same root), and the latter have a sub-meaning, which is "To shower blessing and salutation (on somebody) construed with عَلَى (ʕalā, “on”)"[2], and if you check the verse, there is also the word عَلَى in it.
### Point IV
One problem, Jesus (a.s.) wasn't the son of God according to Islamic theology.
### Point VI
I would need the verses.
### Point VII.
Man was made from,
1. Clay-for Adam (a.s.), the first human, which cannot of course made from a blood clot and semen.
2. Blood and semen-one important note, blood *clot* refers to the egg cell. This refers to other humans, like us (except Eve).
How come can you not figure those out?
@@massblabla Muhammad: (6:163)
He has no partner, and this [creed] I have been commanded [to follow], and I am the first of those who submit [to Allah].
Noah (10:72)
And if you turn away [from my advice] then no payment have I asked of you. My reward is only from Allah, and I have been commanded to be of the Muslims."
Lot and his family (51:36)
And We found not within them other than a [single] house of Muslims.
During the time of Abraham (22:78)
And strive for Allah with the striving due to Him. He has chosen you and has not placed upon you in the religion any difficulty. [It is] the religion of your father, Abraham. Allah named you "Muslims" before [in former scriptures] and in this [revelation] that the Messenger may be a witness over you and you may be witnesses over the people. So establish prayer and give zakah and hold fast to Allah. He is your protector; and excellent is the protector, and excellent is the helper.
So, how can Muhammad be the first muslim when people who existed before him were also muslims according to the Qur'an?
@@massblabla I set a challenge to any Muslim to find a single person or tribe or sect of Muslims between 40 AD and 600 AD anywhere in the world, that worshipped one God, believed that Jesus was not crucified, to at Jesus was born of a virgin, that Jesus was a prophet, and that he taught me lesson which was the same one which Moses’s one lesson that he taught.
Read Surah Nisa - Verses 11, 12 and 176 it talks about the instructions Allah makes to leave inheritance, I'm going to asssume you already know those verses, if not, please read them and continue reading.
Imagine a man dies leaving 3 daughters, a wife and both his parents, and his inheritance is 240000, in the Qur'anic verses that I told you to read, Allah told us that daughters would recieve two-thirds, parents one-third, and a wife one-eight, now let's do simple math.
Daughters': (2/3)* 240000= 160000
Parents': (1/3)* 240000= 80000
Wife's: (1/8)*240000= 30000
Now let's add up those numbers
160000+80000+30000=270000
What do we have here! The result of the repartition is greater than the original inheritance!
But wait! An all knowing Allah (Sura Al-Hujurat 49:16) can't do simple math!
Another fail for muslims
Buddy you need to ratio them first. It's very obvious that if you add your examples up, it would be about 100% (total of 112.5%) So you need to shrink ratio them to 100%. So the math would be
Daughters': (0.586666667) * 240000=
Parents': (0.293333333) * 240000=
Wife's: (0.111111111) * 240000=
This is just the approximate since I don't have the time to deal with the endless decimals.
This is the least intelligent comment 😂😂 that i've ever seen being posted with most confidence. Given the fact that your silly comment has 16 likes,i feel like all christians perhaps share only one braincell 😂 like orange cats.
But,i'll still respond,anyways. Bro,math simply doesn't work like that. This is how it goes :
2/3 + 1/3 + 1/8
= (16+8+3) / 24
= 27/24
Hence,
24,000 ÷ 27 × 16
= 14,222.22
24,000 ÷ 27 × 8
= 7,111.11
24,000 ÷ 27 × 3
= 2,666.66
Total :
14,222.22 + 7,111.11 + 2,666.66
= 23,999.99 ≈ 24,000
@Derderderdeeer Where did Allah say to use ratios? It's not in any of these ayat. He specifically commands exact fractions, 2/3rds of the estate after paying off debts for the two or more female children, 1/6th for each parent and 1/8th for the wives. So if you don't split up the estate (after paying debts) according to the exact fraction stated, you're disobeying the clear instruction of Allah.
Worlds smartest cross-licker everybody
@Derderderdeeer Yeah, math that Allah himself can't do, according to the false prophet Muhammad.
we can answer but there is a arabic expression that says:One of the most difficult dilemmas is clarifying the obvious..so this is pure madness
Same problem for *every* ☪️ult. Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Islam, etc. *None* of them can name *_any_* true follower between 100ad - until their founder came.
Hindus too
@@August_2456 Bro I am an Ex-Muslim and Christian now. Give credit where credit is due. I have read all the religious books and history of all three religions inlcuding Hindus. We can argue whatever we want now. But the truth is Hinduism existed even before Europe was found. Indus Valley civilisation, Harappa and Mohanjodaro civilisations which existed even before Egypt (more thn 12,000 years) all followed Hinduism. It is preserved in India in it's truest form and also evolved by time in many cities.
And your argument can't be applied on ✝️erroris☦️ since Abraham was a christian??? 🤔
@@AhmedSayed-gt5xg
John 8:56
Your father Abraham rejoiced that he would see my day. He saw it and was glad. 🤗
@@AhmedSayed-gt5xg Speaking of "terrorist" say hello 👋 to the #1
Sahih Muslim 523 f
_the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: I have been helped by terror_ 💀
Burn imagine all the prophets when Muhammad called them Muslims 😂 and saying how he is more noble than all of them and how he has the highest layer of heaven 😂😂😂😂
In what world are you the purest of all the prophets while at the same time having a wife hasn’t graduated middle school yet 😂 absolute madness
@@thetaxevader4943
Christians speak about our Beloved Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) ; while simultaneously worshipping a Rap1st,Pedophi1e, Genocidal death cult under the name of "Jesus" (an anglicised name of a greek name;that who knows who made tf up). So,this god is the god of both the old testament & the new testament. Let's learn about his character :
1. Jesus condemns unmarried rape victims to eternal rapehood :
Deuteronomy 22:28-29
28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[a] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
2. Jesus commands to rape captive women of war :
Deuteronomy 21:10-14
10 “When the Lord your God gives you victory in battle and you take prisoners, 11 you may see among them a beautiful woman that you like and want to marry. 12 Take her to your home, where she will shave her head,[a] cut her fingernails, 13 and change her clothes. She is to stay in your home and mourn for her parents for a month; after that, you may marry her. 14 Later, if you no longer want her, you are to let her go free. Since you forced her to have intercourse with you, you cannot treat her as a slave and sell her.
3. Jesus commands followers to rape midianite virgin children (how the men figured out who's virgin & who's not ; can itself be constructed as rape) :
Numbers 31:17-18
17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
4. Jesus commanded the Benjamites kidnapp & rape the women of Shiloh, simply because they were "running out of wives" :
Judges 21:20-23
20 So they instructed the Benjamites, saying, “Go and hide in the vineyards 21 and watch. When the young women of Shiloh come out to join in the dancing, rush from the vineyards and each of you seize one of them to be your wife. Then return to the land of Benjamin. 22 When their fathers or brothers complain to us, we will say to them, ‘Do us the favor of helping them, because we did not get wives for them during the war. You will not be guilty of breaking your oath because you did not give your daughters to them.’”23 So that is what the Benjamites did. While the young women were dancing, each man caught one and carried her off to be his wife. Then they returned to their inheritance and rebuilt the towns and settled in them.
5. Jesus threatens to rape babylonian women & kill their children :
Isaiah 13:15-16
15 Anyone who is captured will be cut down-
run through with a sword.
16 Their little children will be dashed to death before their eyes.
Their homes will be sacked, and their wives will be raped.
6. Jesus threatens to rape even israelite women, in case they stop worshipping him :
Zechariah 14:1-2
The Lord Will Rule the Earth
14 Watch, for the day of the Lord is coming when your possessions will be plundered right in front of you! 2 I will gather all the nations to fight against Jerusalem. The city will be taken, the houses looted, and the women raped. Half the population will be taken into captivity, and the rest will be left among the ruins of the city.
7. Jesus threatens to rape david's wives, because david committed adultery ; in order to make david know how it feels when other men sleep with your wife. Even though it's not the fault of his wives. But,surprise!He forgives david & instead punishes his infant child with death. What a Just god!!!
2 Samuel 12:11-14
11 “This is what the Lord says: ‘Out of your own household I am going to bring calamity on you. Before your very eyes I will take your wives and give them to one who is close to you, and he will sleep with your wives in broad daylight. 12 You did it in secret, but I will do this thing in broad daylight before all Israel.’”
13 Then David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.”
Nathan replied, “The Lord has taken away your sin. You are not going to die. 14 But because by doing this you have shown utter contempt for[a] the Lord, the son born to you will die.”
8. Jesus condones one willfully selling his daughter into sex-slavery :
Exodus 21:7-11
7 “If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. 8 If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself,[a] he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her. 9 If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter. 10 If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights. 11 If he does not provide her with these three things, she is to go free, without any payment of money.
9. Jesus's very favourite & righteous man Lot offers his daughters to be raped by a crowd of homosexual rapists :
Genesis 19:8
8 Look, I have two daughters who are still virgins. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do whatever you want with them. But don't do anything to these men; they are guests in my house, and I must protect them.”
But,lot is a righteous man,lmao :
2 Peter 2:7
7 and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless
Given,that christians/pagans worship this dumb mythological ancient Rap1st; I would say they have no right to point finger at the character of the beloved Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ). Worshippers of Jesuss-pi$$-us-rap1st-kryst shouldn't criticise the consensual relationship between Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) & Aisha (Ra.) ; if they can't even condemn their rap3lord "Jesus"
Ex-Muslims from Uzbekistan 🇺🇿
But having an Islamic symbol.
Another valid points about Ebionites: while they believed Jesus wasn't a divine person, but God's chosen man/prophet, they never believed the idea someone replaced Him on the cross 😅.
Ans:
During the period from 40 AD to 600 AD,
1. Jesus (Isa in Islam) (circa 4 BC - 30/33 AD): Jesus is a central figure in Christianity and is regarded in Islam as a prophet who preached the worship of one God (Allah). His teachings emphasized monotheism and adherence to God’s will.
2. Paul the Apostle (circa 5 - 64/67 AD): Originally known as Saul, Paul played a pivotal role in spreading the message of monotheism within the Roman Empire through early Christian teachings, which emphasized belief in one God.
3. Jewish Sages and Rabbis: Many Jewish scholars and leaders during this period emphasized the worship of one God. Figures such as Rabbi Hillel the Elder (circa 110 BC - 10 AD) and his successors continued to uphold monotheism within the Jewish faith.
4. Christian Monastics: Figures like Saint Anthony the Great (circa 251 - 356 AD) and Saint Augustine of Hippo (354 - 430 AD) were dedicated to monotheism. Augustine, in particular, left significant writings on Christian monotheism and the nature of God.
Paul and the Jews believed that Jesus was crucified. Of course Saint Anthony the Great and Saint Augustine of Hippo believed in monotheism. Christians have ALWAYS believed in monotheism. Saints you mentioned also believed that Jesus was crucified and that He is God.
@alsalafimuwahhid Muhammed literally distorted all the teachings of Christianity Judaism and Pagan Arabia into the quran 🤦♂ The kaaba is literally a pagan item. yall are cultists
@alsalafimuwahhid youre also struggling with the concept of the trinity. God is one being with three persons, that doesnt make him three seperate Gods. God is God the Father, the Holy Spirit, and Jesus Christ. Jesus is God in the human flesh, the Holy spirit is God's soul with us, and God the Father is the being of power that controls the universe. If this still doesnt make sense to you, then think of God as the Quran and its surahs. you can pick any surah out of the quran and its still the quran, its just more specific. Jesus is the father, the father is Jesus, that is why his disciples called him 'father'
John 10:30 ESV "I and the Father are one.”
John 5:18 ESV "This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God."
John 5:17 ESV "But Jesus answered them, “My Father is working until now, and I am working.”
Ephesians 6:23 ESV
"Peace be to the brothers, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ."
John 20:28 ESV
Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!”
Hebrews 1:2 ESV
"But in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world."
Not only this but the 'true islamic teachings of jesus' are fanfiction fallacies of muhammed who was too stupid to think through historical contexts and texts but was a brilliant enough speaker and war general to found a new cult.
@@kylejay8493 You just said two heresies 💀 Modalism and partialism...
@alsalafimuwahhid Don't pay attention to what that guy wrote, he said at least two heresies.
Trinity is one God which exists eternally in three distinct persons: the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit. These three are not separate gods but are unified in one divine essence.
You can kinda compare It to water:
Water is H20 and exists in 3 forms: ice, liquid, vapor
They have different properties, they are different from each other, and yet they are one (H2O).
And I am not saying here that God changes, that the Father becomes the Son or the Holy Spirit (because it is modalism).
Father, Son, and Holy Spirit-who are each fully and completely God, co-existing eternally without blending or switching forms.
What we mean when we say that They are 100% God is that They possess ONE and the SAME divine nature/ essence. 1+1+1=3, but persons, not Gods. Why? Because if there were 3 Gods, each of them would have a different essence.
Perhaps Mohammed was a Christian Prophet but later the wicked came and forgot his original understandings?
easy
islam is an arabic word that linguistically means "submission" and muslim means "Submitter" and terminologically "Submission to God" and "One who submits his will to God"
against God there are only submitters or rebels like satan
if you BELIEVE Noah and Abraham are Submitters to God or submit their will to God, then you yourself are saying they're are Muslims in another language
good job wasting time and effort on making and editing a 4min video just about this
But the Quran says that Muhammad is the first Muslim
Q. 6:14
Say: Shall I choose for a protecting friend other than Allah, the Originator of the heavens and the earth, Who feedeth and is never fed? Say: I am ordered to be the first to surrender (أَسْلَمَ)(unto Him). And be not thou (O Muhammad) of the idolaters.
Also, when you guys claim them to be Muslim, you are not just implying the literal meaning but you mean that they submitted themselves to the Quran’s idea of God. By saying they submitted to the true God of the Bible does not mean that they are a Muslim. Jesus submitted to the Father. The god of the Quran is not the Father in any sense.
@@GM14218 just because you chose not to read the whole passage that verse came in, the first to submit of his nation and people, tafsir (explication) ibn katheer, al-qortoby and al-baghaway, I heard you guys dislike context but this one ...
@@GM14218 well yes the God of jesus is not what's written in your bible now you got it
Just want to ask that what was/is the proof that Muhammad was a messanger of God.. or he proclaimed himself as messanger to fool the world.. Sometimes i feel pity on those who consider Muhammad as prophet...
I can anticipate that without Apostasy laws and High birth rates in Islam, From death of Muhammad, Islam would be max. big like sikhism, and see this, Christianity doesn't have these and it is standing for centuries and it is even growing (not in USA) but I know one thing that we have, True God... and this video makes a lot of sense and you greatly debunked history of Islam Great Job! May God Bless you and always protect you from doubt and guide you... ✝☦
@HarisP000 So like which is worse 😂
Hey guys I'm an ex muslim and now i am an agnostic atheist, i searched in islam and discovered that it's bullshit, now i wanna give a chance to Christianity to be a fair person, you guys have any good channels to help me with getting more infos abt Christianity?
@@BerettaM1951 my two favourites are: Kyle (he focuses on Orthodox Christianity) and IMBEGGAR. The two are very knowledgeable people. You should give them a try.
Another good source would be Testify (the chance you are on), Council of Trent (Catholic), and InspiringPhilosphy (he explains many of the science aspects)
@@itsratzynet6430 thanks!
@@commandounknown4404 thank youu
InspiringPhilosophy is the best start for christianity, its philosophy and morals, arguments for it, and debunking apparent contradictions.
This channel is not to offend Islamic but rather show the truth
the answer that before 600AD the true followers were the prophets and there followers
of islam
@@majidwarid2476 only i wanted to comment where the guy most likely is not a rage baiter
@@techgaming-on4wg huh
Look again
Zoroastrianism (main religion in persia) was monotheistic and some sources say it may have been older than judaism, but even zoroastrianism doesn’t count as a true follower of Allah
I got a question for Muslims:
How is Jesus not divine if He was born of a virgin (by not another man)?
It was thought the permission of god
Because in Christianity being born of an immaculate sinless virgin is almost always associated with christ’s “fully human” side.
I thought this classification was weird too because jesus merely being created by god the father would not make him “fully divine” at all to me as it would just make him more like adam.
@buabhallconor1364 Adam the first man and mel an angel
counter: How is *Adam* (as) not divine if he (as) was born of no parents?
Wow u r so smart😢
Has anyone else thought how muslims claim to believe in Jesus but what would their reaction be if a random guy came up to them and said "I am the Son of God me and the Father are One"? Things would get even worse if there was a wooden cross near them to use..
@HarisP000 No, He doesn't say "don't call me good." Check it again. He says, "Why do you call me good teacher? Only God is good". He is pointing out that if He is good, He is not merely a teacher. Jesus calls Himself good in John 10:11 " “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep." "
mistake at 2:38 Jesus IS the true son of God. Not was.
was, is, and will be. ;-)
Real
@HarisP000 cap 1 John 3:10
Someone tried to reason against the Trinity by saying "it says Jesus WAS God in John 1, not IS, so He lost His divinity in the beginning." This would still technically mean that the Triune God, the one that he was arguing against, could still exist.
2:37 Catholic Christians*
The Early Christians were called the Catholic Church ever since 110AD when Church Father St. Ignatius of Antioch began to use the term.
Meanwhile the term Orthodox Church didn't come into us until the early 4th century about 200 years later, and even then they were still in communion with Rome until the Great Schism in 11th century 900 years after the Church had already been called the Catholic Church. So no, it's not accurate to refer to Christians from the 1st - 6th century as "Orthodox Christians" because that term didn't exist for half of that time period and the Orthodox Church itself didn't become an institution independent of Rome until the 11th century.
He meant orthodox as in orthodox with a lowercase O, which is the Greek word for “the correct thing”, as if to say the early church
@@prdarlin I mean he clearly spelt it with a capital O as in referring to Eastern Orthodox Christianity
Cool coverage, you should talk about the 20+ versions of the non corrupted Qur'an
they are different ways of reading, not meaning. how come many people did not understand this??
@@massblabla yet Muslims claim the Qur'an was never changed and believe in a single version, which is a fraud of course
@@massblabla They also have different meanings, you can look this up yourself
@HarisP000 false, it's not only translations, different versions, hence corrupted Qur'an
@@shaylevinzon540 not different versions, different interpurations
they all have the same meaning though, but some use words that have been changes or altered leading to confusion
Muhammad held the first Black Friday sale????? Shipping included! 😢😢😢
Sunan an-Nasa'i 4184
It was narrated that jabir said:
"A slave came and pledged to the Prophet to emigrate, and the Prophet did not realize that he was a slave. Then his master came looking for him. The Prophet said: 'Sell him to me,' and he bought him for two black slaves. Then he did not accept the pledge from anyone until he asked: 'Is he a slave?"'
Graded sahih
Off topic but I'll allow it because the pun is funny lol
@@TestifyApologetics lol I do it for the Muslims that have never read or heard of these immoral things that Islam teaches.
Wow 🎉🎉.
He was first astronaut as well.
It's a common practice for Muslims back then to find slaves and buy them and free them. It's like fasting.
christian jesus was the first transgender in history?😅😅😅🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣John 13:23-25=
23 Now there was [a]leaning on Jesus’ bosom one of His disciples, whom Jesus loved. 24 Simon Peter therefore motioned to him to ask who it was of whom He spoke.
25 Then, leaning [b]back on Jesus’ breast, he said to Him, “Lord, who is it?”
FREAKKY AHH BIBLE 💀💀💀
Currently doing a whole writing of this , you should add 61:14 and surah 3:55. These verse suggest Allah helped the Muslims in the 1st century to prevail over the enemies. Now what I’ve been writing is the expectation we should expect Muslims to know in the first century and do we see this narrative being played out , so I wrote that mecca and the kaaba in the Islamic narrative proceeds 600ce so in the 1st century and onwards we should be seeing a group of people mentioning Mecca and the kaaba. 2nd point is the Quran said isa was taught the Torah this means the Islamic Jesus would have knowledge of the correct stories of the Islamic narrative of the prophets . Which means in the 1st century and onwards we should be seeing a group that had the Islamic narrative of the prophets etc etc but we don’t see it. I tried to shorten this explanation but there’s loads to this
He already brought up this argument actually.
@HarisP000 Christians already believed before Nicea in the Trinity.
As a Ex-Muslim, I have a question for all the Christians:
Where were Christians or followers of One True God before Jesus? Why did God wait so many millennias before sending his Son Jesus to teach people about him for real? Or did God already sent other messengers in other parts of the world (other religions)? Also it could be that Christianity and Islam are just another perspective about God of an awakened being on earth like Jesus. If that is the case, there are so many Jesus like persons who taught God to the world even before Jesus did in many races and cultures before Britishers or some Europeans (who carried Christianity) colonised many parts of the world and erased about their messengers of God.
The true followers were the ones who believed in the prophets that spoke of him and believed in the coming of the son of God
easy to answer
During the "gap" from 40 AD to 600 AD, Islam, as the true submission to Allah, still existed through followers of previous prophets who preserved monotheism, even though their scriptures were later altered. The core message of Islam has always been to worship one God, and many true believers continued this faith, even without a new scripture, until the Qur'an was revealed to Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) to restore the pure teachings.
that's what you believe. I need a name and a source of one true follower that comes from before Muhammad.
@@TestifyApologetics Your question assumes that names or specific historical records are necessary to validate the existence of true monotheistic believers between 40 AD and 600 AD. However, historical records of individual followers, especially common people, are often scarce from ancient times. What we can rely on are patterns and principles.
The Continuity of Monotheism: Judaism, for example, represents a monotheistic tradition that existed throughout this period. While Islam considers the Qur'an the final revelation, it acknowledges the Torah and its followers as part of the same monotheistic lineage.
The Hanif Tradition: There were individuals in pre-Islamic Arabia known as "Hanifs" who rejected polytheism and adhered to the worship of one God. A notable example is Zayd ibn Amr, who lived before Muhammad (PBUH) and openly declared his belief in one God without associating partners with Him. This shows the existence of monotheistic believers even before the Qur'anic revelation.
Preservation of Truth: Islam teaches that true submission to God (Islam in essence) transcends labels. Those who sincerely followed the teachings of previous prophets-such as Jesus, Moses, or Abraham-without corrupting their faith, were true believers.
If you require a name and source of a true monotheistic follower before Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), I would point to Zayd ibn Amr ibn Nufayl, a documented historical figure. Zayd was a pre-Islamic Arab known to reject idolatry and worship Allah alone. He lived before Muhammad's prophethood and openly criticized idol worship in Mecca, saying, "I worship the Lord of Abraham and none else." This is recorded in Sahih al-Bukhari (Book 55, Hadith 638), a reliable Islamic source.
Additionally, Zayd is noted to have sought the uncorrupted faith of Abraham, aligning with the core principles of monotheism that Islam recognizes as submission to Allah. His existence demonstrates that true monotheistic followers existed during what some perceive as a "gap."
If historical figures like Zayd are not sufficient evidence, I would ask: Do you dismiss the existence of truth merely because not every follower's name is recorded? The preservation of monotheistic faith often exists outside prominent names but remains evident through people like Zayd and the broader principles of monotheism present in Judaism and remnants of Abrahamic faith during that era.
@@TestifyApologetics If you require a name and source of a true monotheistic follower before Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), I would point to Zayd ibn Amr ibn Nufayl, a documented historical figure. Zayd was a pre-Islamic Arab known to reject idolatry and worship Allah alone. He lived before Muhammad's prophethood and openly criticized idol worship in Mecca, saying, "I worship the Lord of Abraham and none else." This is recorded in Sahih al-Bukhari (Book 55, Hadith 638), a reliable Islamic source.
Additionally, Zayd is noted to have sought the uncorrupted faith of Abraham, aligning with the core principles of monotheism that Islam recognizes as submission to Allah. His existence demonstrates that true monotheistic followers existed during what some perceive as a "gap."
If historical figures like Zayd are not sufficient evidence, I would ask: Do you dismiss the existence of truth merely because not every follower's name is recorded? The preservation of monotheistic faith often exists outside prominent names but remains evident through people like Zayd and the broader principles of monotheism present in Judaism and remnants of Abrahamic faith during that era.
@@TestifyApologetics If you require a name and source of a true monotheistic follower before Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), I would point to Zayd ibn Amr ibn Nufayl, a documented historical figure. Zayd was a pre-Islamic Arab known to reject idolatry and worship Allah alone. He lived before Muhammad's prophethood and openly criticized idol worship in Mecca, saying, "I worship the Lord of Abraham and none else." This is recorded in Sahih al-Bukhari (Book 55, Hadith 638), a reliable Islamic source.
Additionally, Zayd is noted to have sought the uncorrupted faith of Abraham, aligning with the core principles of monotheism that Islam recognizes as submission to Allah. His existence demonstrates that true monotheistic followers existed during what some perceive as a "gap."
If historical figures like Zayd are not sufficient evidence, I would ask: Do you dismiss the existence of truth merely because not every follower's name is recorded? The preservation of monotheistic faith often exists outside prominent names but remains evident through people like Zayd and the broader principles of monotheism present in Judaism and remnants of Abrahamic faith during that era.
If you require a name and source of a true monotheistic follower before Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), I would point to Zayd ibn Amr ibn Nufayl, a documented historical figure. Zayd was a pre-Islamic Arab known to reject idolatry and worship Allah alone. He lived before Muhammad's prophethood and openly criticized idol worship in Mecca, saying, "I worship the Lord of Abraham and none else." This is recorded in Sahih al-Bukhari (Book 55, Hadith 638), a reliable Islamic source.
Additionally, Zayd is noted to have sought the uncorrupted faith of Abraham, aligning with the core principles of monotheism that Islam recognizes as submission to Allah. His existence demonstrates that true monotheistic followers existed during what some perceive as a "gap."
If historical figures like Zayd are not sufficient evidence, I would ask: Do you dismiss the existence of truth merely because not every follower's name is recorded? The preservation of monotheistic faith often exists outside prominent names but remains evident through people like Zayd and the broader principles of monotheism present in Judaism and remnants of Abrahamic faith during that era.
Yes, Amen! Hallelujah! May all Glory and Honour be to Beloved LORD, Dad Jesus, God Almighty! 😁🩶💯🙏😇
I pray Jesus Christ would just come back. Please.
He wloudnt he was just a Good man not really son of God or anything there's no proof for him being the son of God outside of the bible
He will one day, He promised. He will restore all things and make everything new again, we just have to be patient and enjoy the life He’s given us now. He wants that for you, trust me :)
Imagine got Jesus comeback before gta 6. That would be insane
He did. Read Matthew 24 and mark 13
@@Unitedsteaks. That's wrong. Josephus, Ignatius, and the apostolic church fathers are not in the Bible, yet they wrote.
Saying Adam is muslim is lowkey racism 😭🙏 like saying Simon Bolivar was french or smth
I just found your TH-camr channel, keep it up and God bless you brother🙏🏽❤️
may god lead him to the light. This person is nothing but a pure hater to Islam. Spending all day trying to find any out of context or/and ignorant thing to continue to hate. He simply cannot leave our religion at sll
In the period of 40 AD up to 600AD
The Quran and bible mentions about people of cave who slept for almost 300 years or so.
They were the real Muslims and Allah praised them in Quran.
Lol that story was borrowed
@@TestifyApologetics So what Muslims believe that those people were the true followers of Jesus and worshiped Allah and they worshipped him alone and they believed all the prophets.
That’s why the government of that time wanted to kill them.
@@TestifyApologetics so…
Did I win the challenge or not, you said specify one person, I have shown you a group of people that not just Quran talks about but also it is mentioned in bible.
Now do you accept Islam or what ?
I am surprised how Allah had to send a rapist murderer highway robber as his last messenger .if one were to see the photograph of Allah as described in koranic sources it becomes clear .
They didn't document every person in the world bro how are we meant to know every person that lived
0:40 Why is lawbringer there 😭
I’m glad I’m not the only one that got that
I miss that game
You asked if we Muslims could identify a Muslim between 40 AD and 600 AD. In response, could you name any Christians before Jesus (PBUH)? In fact, was Jesus (PBUH) himself a Christian? According to the Bible, Jesus (PBUH) never claimed to be God, nor did he refer to himself as a Christian. Instead, he described himself in a way that aligns with how we Muslims view him-as a messenger sent by God, not God himself.
Consider John 17:3, where Jesus (PBUH) speaks of God as distinct from himself:
ESV: "And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent."
NIV: "Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent."
This reinforces the belief that Jesus (PBUH) acknowledged the oneness of God and his role as a messenger. Ironically, we Muslims might be following the Bible’s teachings about Jesus (PBUH) more closely than many Christians today.
I know this comment will likely get deleted, just like many others that challenge the video's points. But the truth is, when we ask whether Jesus (PBUH) ever identified as a Christian or claimed to be God, it becomes hard to ignore the evidence. Maybe that’s why comments like this don’t stick around-they hit too close to home.
You citee John 17:3, but did you read 2 verses later?
@@briandiehl9257 Just as there are many contradictions in the Bible, a book that is filled with contradictions cannot be from God. If you’re referring to John 17:4-5, where Jesus (PBUH) says:
> "I glorified you on earth, having accomplished the work that you gave me to do. And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed" (ESV),
it’s important to consider other verses that reveal the nature of his authority. For example, in John 5:30, Jesus (PBUH) states:
> "I can do nothing on my own. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will but the will of him who sent me."
This clearly indicates that Jesus (PBUH) acknowledges his dependence on God and his role as a messenger, rather than claiming divinity. Therefore, the contradictions present in these texts raise serious questions about the source of such a book.
@@briandiehl9257 I can also provide many other contradictions in the Bible. These inconsistencies call into question the claim that it is the infallible word of God. If a book is meant to guide humanity, it should be free from contradictions.
@@briandiehl9257 Surah Al-Hajj (22:46):
> "Indeed, it is not the eyes that are blind, but it is the hearts
@@MAXNOTFOUND6363 it sounds like you are just starting to learn about something called the trinity
"First, get your mental health sorted out. Then, maybe try to find your real parents. After that, educate yourself on your religion-because clearly, you need it. But seriously, stay out of discussions about Islam or any religion until you actually know what you're talking about."
Fist, get your mental health sorted out. Then, maybe try to find your real parents. After that, educate yourself on your religion-because clearly, you need it. But seriously, stay out of dicussions about islam or any religion until you acutally know what you're talking about.
Before mahamed was born there is ABSOLUTELY NO allah in :
HISTORY
GEOGRAPHY
ARCHEOLOGY
LANGUAGE (arabic)
SCHOLARSHIP
TORAH
GOSPELS
MANUSCRIPTS
THIRD PARTY CRITICS
ABSOLUTELY ZERO!!! ZERO ZERO ZERO. Hmmmmm… Looks like (mahamed), created a pagan god to me.
1. Amr ibn Abd Manaf.
2. Abdullah ibn Abd Al Muttalib
3. Abd Al Muttalib ibn Amr
3. Amina bint Wahb
4. Hamza ibn Abd Al Muttalib
5. Abd Manaf ibn Qusai
6. Qusai ibn Kilab
7. Kilab ibn Murrah
Only a few to name. It could go on further.
.....what category do Arians go in? Or the Cathars?
Arians still worship Jesus as the Son
And Cathars, at least as depicted by their orthodox opponents in western Christianity, were deeply, deeply gnostic. I say depicted as there has been increased scholarly skepticism about the theology of Catharism and it's existence as some sort of organized heretical sects. Either way though, they do not resemble Muslims, they also date from the late middle ages, and were pretty much only in the south of France and north of Italy, so it is pretty odd to bring them up in a discussion of pre-Islamic monotheists in the middle east.
Guys, I will not comment on this. Nor I will try to make anyone understand. But in his other own video, he word by word says *In logic, arguement from silence is a pattern of reasoning in which the failure to mention a fact or event in an own source used to draw an inference usually to the conclusion that the supposed fact is false or that the supposed event didn’t actually happen. It’s not always necessarily flacious but at best it’s a pretty precarious way to argue.* I think you guys have enough braincells left to understand what’s going on here…
I think that’s enough, we don’t want them to cry knowing it’s wrong 😂 🤐
still didnt answer the question
I'm sorry, how many REAL muslims have you ever talked to? You do realise Quran only mentioned 25 prophets where there were definitely more than 25 prophets out there, right? And Allah (The Creator) sent the next prophet when there was no single soul left to preach the authentic words of Him. Your argument is super silly because we are taught about these things in childhood, lol. Change your title. Make it interrogative instead of pushing it as a universal truth
@@atarannum name one then
so basically allah let every prophet die out without anyone converting and only after each one died did muhammad come and preach
Yet you cant spot one follower of Allah before muhammad
Every prophet believed in 1 god
There were no single souls left to preach at around the first century AD. That leaves about 500 years worth of time of people being led astray.
Why would the jews 600 years after jesus’s ascension into heaven be correct in their claims of bragging about killing jesus?
Make sure you don't delete this comment, The term Muslim only came during Prophet Muhammad (SAW) before that every righteous person who has lived before Prophet Muhammad (SAW) is considered Muslim, the word Muslim means (the one who submits to Allah only) After the corruption of bible from the birth of Jesus every person who rejected any idol worshipping was know as HANIFI. It was called the "religion" of Hanif. Because the world was so corrupt to its core it was only a small minority of tribes that rejected all forms of idols and only held to little verses to keep them from shirk and from these tribes one tribe was of prophet Muhammad's grandfather, father, uncles, their grandfather, and their family before Islam even came. Man you really do try cherry picking dates and times of history just to make yourself right.
There is zero external confirmation outside of Muslim sources that I'm aware of that confirm the existence of the Hanif. Don't tell me to not delete comments, assuming that's what I'm going to do.
@@TestifyApologetics a simple google search, is sufficient
@@hydrobyte4844yes, a simple google search said that they probably didn't exist
So many temples in asia , india, china, are more than 2000yrs old how come ? If they were all muslims then why did they worship idols? 😂😂 You saying they were all muslims but they worship everything except Allah 🤣🤣🤣 as a exmuslim fact is Islam is just a fake human made religion nothing else and quran is word of Muhammad not god .
@@TestifyApologetics You are absolutely right with your descriptions. Contrary to all Islamic scriptural legends, the content of your video is also provable.
Quote: "Man you really do try cherry picking dates and times of history just to make yourself right." -
Well, the data is, of course, NOT “cherry picked” but historically predetermined. And contrary to Islamic legendary scriptures, your depictions are based on all existing (not lying!) written and archaeological material from more than half a millennium after Christ.
1)
There was NO ethnic group called Muslims before the 8th century. There was no Allah, no Quran, no Mecca, no “prophet” Muhammad, and no Islam. This is proven by authentic history - and NOT by Islamic legends and fairy tales.
2)
There is no mention of an Allah in any of the pre-Islamic scriptures, “Al” in Aramaic means “God” and “lah” was an ancient Egyptian moon deity.
3)
Quote: "After the corruption of bible from the birth of Jesus..." - So the Quran was lying again when it says in 3:3 "He has sent down upon thee the Book with the truth, confirming (!) what was before it, and He sent down the Torah and the Gospel." - So Al-lah sent corrupted books??
And what “history” is seriton007 talking about in the last sentence of his comment? As a graduate of religious history at a German and an Islamic university, I must emphasize that there is NO actual history in Islam. In this ideology, almost EVERYTHING is based on legends, myths and inventions. I am currently working on a written documentary in which I will prove that an Arab “prophet” Muhammad NEVER existed. However, he had to be invented and installed around the middle of the 8th century in order to create a "messenger" and a counterpart to Jesus Christ with this character.
Already about 2200 years before the invention of Islam in the 8th century, the term “MHMD” existed among the Ugaritans (without the vowels, which were still unknown until about the 8th/9th century). Over the centuries, this term underwent changes, such as “Mah'mad”, found in Song of Solomon 5:16, "Ahmad" until it finally appeared as “Muhammad”. Along with numerous treacherous uses of texts from pre-Islamic religious scriptures and apocrypha in the Quran, this is all further evidence of what is very obviously the biggest fraud of all time.
Knowing all this, the highest Islamic representatives also try to protect themselves by forbidding any criticism of scriptures and especially of Muhammad and threatening them with death.
There was no Islam in the entire 7th century; the founder and first caliph of the Umayyad dynasty, Muʿāwiya ibn Abī Sufyān (r. 661-680 AD), was a TRINITY Christian. His more important successor was Abd al Malik (r. 685-705 AD), also a Christian, but who rejected the divinity of Jesus, the crucifixion of Jesus and the Trinity of God. Al Hajjaj ibn Yusuf, Abd al Malik's governor of Iraq, ultimately imposed the political ideology of Islam. Islam is therefore nothing other than a CHRISTIAN heresy, as the Quran shows in numerous places. This also explains the fact that the hadiths were only written between the 9th and 14th centuries, and the “Sirat Rasul Allah” was only written in the 19th century.
On the other hand, we must show understanding for our Muslim friends, because they have no choice but to disagree. Because if they don't, they could possibly become victims of this “religion of peace and tolerance” themselves.
Great video!
Allah was the son of Muhammad, never existed before Muhammad, and has always been loyal to Muhammad.
I disagree, in the Islamic perspective, prophet Moses, Prophet Isa(Jesus), as well as prophet Abraham, prophet David (Dawood), there are actually many more names, there message was to worship one god who is Allah, that was Islam, every prophet was preaching the message of monotheism, to worship Allah
"The Muslim version of history is absolute nonsense"
Well, this isn't exactly a new revelation, we've known this for a while.
1:27 Is that Savimbi?
1:14
"B-but you see, all the prophets' messages were corrupted by Shaytan! Even Jesus! (PBUH). The Bible has so many contradictions, but the Qur'an? Zero! 100% perfect, Alhamdulillah! SEE? BIBLE FALSE, QUR’AN TRUE.
THREE CAN NOT BE 1, SIMPLE MATH!"
1 x 1 x 1 = 1
😱😱😱😱
ALL HAM TO ALLAH! YOU SEE! DON'T READ ANYTHING
Why was the Qur'an altered? And why are there mistakes in the Qur'an like saying sky is a ceiling and Jews worshipped Ezra as son of God.
“your belief is not my belief, therefore islam is true”
Dr Jay Smith answered it all in the “true origins of Islam”
This is so stup*d, like every prophet conveyed a different set of teachings,like it wasn't exactly islam,and there are almost 1000 scientific verses in quran and not a single one has been proved false.And people claiming that Muhammad(p.b.u.h) to copy from bible and other books,for their knowledge he didn't knew how to read or write.
I am not a blind follower,I question my faith and find my answers.
The hate for islam here is just too biased,Atleast study Islam once unbiasedly,Then criticize or accept,whatever you want.
Ali Dawah said that that scientific miracles of the quran got debunked. And there actually a lot "scientific miracles" that have been proven false. Also there are hadiths that prove that Muhammad was not actually illiterate and also hadiths that prove Muhammad copied from the bible.
“Not a single scientific has been proved false!”
Great joke. Can you tell me the last time you dipped a fly in your drink or how much camel urine you drank?
Name three scientific verses of the Quran.
There definitely are not 1000, not even the most staunch Islamic apologist (who knows what the Quran says) would ever say that.
Muhammad didn't have to know how to read or write to copy from people. The Quran tells you that people accused Muhammad of being all ears - that is to say, just accepting anything he heard.
Quran 9:61 "And among them are those who insult the Prophet, and say, “He is all ears.” Say, “He listens for your own good. He believes in God, and trusts the believers, and is mercy for those of you who believe.” Those who insult the Messenger of God will have a painful penalty."
Muhammad is accused of hearing and claiming the stories of the ancients as divine revelation:
Quran 25:5 "And they say, “Tales of the ancients; he wrote them down; they are dictated to him morning and evening.” "
Then can you show any belief system from the time of Jesus to Muhammad ,who held islamic concepts
Dude shut up. You're being deceived by the illiterate Arabian. He didn't read or write doesn't mean he couldn't hear and talk
1 day and it got already debunked, your video proved islam good job
Christians can try but they usually always fail
Bobby didn't do nothing stop projecting yourself abdool
@@patriot-g3e stay in your delusion
Muslims: Muhammad did perform a miracle
Me: what?
Muslims: he road a donkey to jerusalem prayed and went to the heavens and met prophets
Me: where is the proof?
Muslims: the donkey was the proof
Me: than there is no evidence he did that
Muslims: trust me bro
Me: no
Muslims: but he split the moon
Me: where in the Quran does it say that because it has been written after his death
Muslims: still trust me bro
Muslims he saw the entire world
Me: but why did he say the earth was as flat as a rug if he did have his night journey
Muslims: trust me bro
Me: no
Muslims: but his greatest miracle is the Quran as it was the word of god the word that became book
Me: so you do believe in a Trinity belief ?
Muslims: no
Me but you just said the Quran is uncreated and is the word that became a book
Muslims: nooo
Me: yes
Muslims: no
Me you just believed in our trinity that the word became flesh but in your case the word became a book
Muslims: trust me bro
Muhammad reacting to his Muslim trust me bros: and I thought I was stupid 🤦♀️
Muslims after realizing Jesus is god: 👁👄👁
@@ZabirZim you’re the one who are crazy for following a guy who thinks sperms are created out of backbones and who fed camel urine to a poor man thinking it would be medicine 🤦
@@ZabirZim No, the Quran is crazy. He only said what Muslims say
This story is broken.
Here's how:
> Muslims: Muhammad did perform a miracle
> Me: what?
> Muslims: he road a donkey to jerusalem prayed and went to the heavens and met prophets
> Me: where is the proof?
> Muslims: the donkey was the proof
> Me: than there is no evidence he did that
To the "Muslims" (the correct one will be Muslim) character, He (saw) didn't rode a donkey, He (saw) rode Buraq (lit. lightning).
Also, it is on Qur'an Surah Al-Isra' [19], and the Quraish said he was a witch, not a liar. A witch is different from a liar.
> Muslims: but he split the moon
> Me: where in the Quran does it say that because it has been written after his death
See Qur'an Surah Al-Qamar [55] verses 1-2.
> Muslims he saw the entire world
> Me: but why did he say the earth was as flat as a rug if he did have his night journey
You forgot the colon, here you go : !
Then, when you walk around your house, did you feel a decrease/increase in elevation, no right?
> Muslims: but his greatest miracle is the Quran as it was the word of god the word that became book
> Me: so you do believe in a Trinity belief ?
> Muslims: no
> Me but you just said the Quran is uncreated and is the word that became a book
> Muslims: nooo
The Qur'an is not God, it is a creation of Allah (swt.), how did this correlate to the Trinity?
> Me you just believed in our trinity that the word became flesh but in your case the word became a book
> Muslims: trust me bro
> Muhammad reacting to his Muslim trust me bros: and I thought I was stupid 🤦♀
> Muslims after realizing Jesus is god: 👁👄👁
**coughing** And yet I still not believe that Jesus is God. Also, I think you need to learn how to spell. 🤦♀
@HarisP000 yes you can prove Jesus did these miracles but eye witnesses and text like with Jesus there is always eyewitness that people documented now let me tell you why this argument is flawed because by that logic how would you know the Quran is truly written from his when it had no eye witness Muhammad accordingly got it from a cave
Also Jesus mentions that he is god: Before Abraham was I am
I am that I am
He accepted worship
He forgave sins
He says that I am the law of Moses
And what I am means it means that he always was and always is just like god said to the Jews he said I am that’s why people wanted to stone Jesus because the Jews said that he was doing something blasphemous
He also said how I and the Father are one
Who ever seen me has seen the father
@@massblabla that moon splitting thing was added 200 years later after his death 💀
Also no one saw him riding baruq the only witness was baruq
History is what we know, but it is not everything we know. Moreover, history is most likely influenced by the perspectives and biases of its writers. There is no guarantee that history has remained unaltered over time; we can only hope it hasn’t been modified later on.
What I am trying to say is that history is not the ultimate truth. Just because history recognizes something as fact does not mean it is 100% accurate. Many things in history come from random clues here and there, or from fragments of parchment, which can be fabricated, by the way. I am not a historian, so if anyone finds mistakes in my statements, please feel free to correct me.
But for the sake of argument, I will sort of answer your question and point to a group with the help of the Quran:
Bismillah
{ إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ وَٱلَّذِينَ هَادُواْ وَٱلنَّصَٰرَىٰ وَٱلصَّٰبِـِٔينَ مَنۡ ءَامَنَ بِٱللَّهِ وَٱلۡيَوۡمِ ٱلۡأٓخِرِ وَعَمِلَ صَٰلِحٗا فَلَهُمۡ أَجۡرُهُمۡ عِندَ رَبِّهِمۡ وَلَا خَوۡفٌ عَلَيۡهِمۡ وَلَا هُمۡ يَحۡزَنُونَ }
[Surah Al-Baqarah: 62]
Sahih International Translation:
"Indeed, those who believed, and those who were Jews, Christians, or Sabeans [before Prophet Muḥammad (ﷺ)]-those [among them] who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness-will have their reward with their Lord, and no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve."
2:01 OMG VULPES CAMEO!
Self-indulgent circlejerk in the comments.
''Orthodox' Christians? You mean Roman-Catholic?
@@Reynaertphotos
Christianity at the time was Orthodox, including te Papal Church. They were the "One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church", so they were "Catholic", but not as Westerners understand the term. And in the Roman Empire of Justin I, they were Romans (about 20 Roman Greeks, so "Roman in race / tribe / ethnicity / blood", and 10 more non-Greek Roman citizens). Those were "Roman Catholics" not accepting Papal Supremacy. The now mostly non-Roman Latin and Germanic speakers im the were not "Roman", but were "Catholic" in union with the other 4 ancient patriachies
Catholic here. There was no such thing as Catholicism or Orthodoxy. Just "the one holy Catholic and apostolic church" which didn't really refer to Catholicism itself, just the church.
@@idonthaveideasformyhandlewasn’t it called “Chalcedonian” by this point? Up until the schism?
Or at least that’s what we retroactively call it
@@anotherguy687 I don’t know, but if it is, thanks for the correction.
If Jesus said he was god, and Jesus was the son of god, doesn’t that mean that Christianity has 2 gods.
Also how could god let humans kill himself (his creation) if he died then the whole universe wouldn’t have balance and crumble, if he died for our sins that means everybody will be in heaven and hell would have no use for its existence
Do you really think Christians believe God ceased existing?