I have learnt far more from listening to Allan Savory on you tube than 4 years at university with regards to land management etc...., pretty much turned everything I thought I knew on its head.
Some of the impressive aspets of Savory is that he acknowledges that he was wrong, and then went back to verifying data. This is a great show of the effect of the hollistic methods - th-cam.com/video/hRg1hOj-0iQ/w-d-xo.html
This has LONGGGG been a theory of mine. I cant beleive this has been out there the whole time and i NEVER knew. Considering running for office for soil/water conservation in my state. (NC) ... Id be willing to quit my engineering job to do this.. THIS is changing the world. THIS is how you end world hunger. THIS is how you solve everything. THIS is energy.
@@billsmith5109the practices are universal mate, simply the areas that are supplied with consistent annual rains that tend to not undergo much desertification to begin with, but can always make an environment healthier, more vibrant and biodiverse. Cheers
Yeah, I actually think it might be a better sign that people are watching it over and over. I've seen it three times already myself, just to make sure I didn't miss anything.
We have to ignore our desire to "intervene" with restoring what we've degraded. The only force on earth powerful and reliable enough to restore soil, plants, and animals is to use nature itself. You couldn't drill enough wells to water the grasslands in a thousand years, yet in a decade could have streams and aquifers full of water by managing ruminants as Savory explains.
That's why he used a protocol in favor of nature. He let the cattle roam wild with other species so the plants can be decomposed and keep the water trapped into the soil for regrowth next season.
Steven Schwartz I'd like to add that drilling wells to water grasslands is a really bad idea. To take water from deep within the ground and water the surface will diminish the water in the ground. After a while that water will be depleted and we'd be in big trouble. It's far better to stop as much water from escaping back into the air as possible.
Krickistina plays Yea that would place us in a horrible quandary. I like the idea of having as much plant life (dead or alive) cover the soil as to keep the rain water from sunlight so the soil can be moist enough to bring the land back into its original state or even extend it.
Armies change civilizations, farmers kill them! Love this guy. We can conquer climate change n avert civil war with this guys counsel, hope people listen.
The amount of people who say it was around 6 million and claim that the approximately 2 million cattle today is "about the same" as the few million bison....but I have found that most of those people are not aware that bison were ranging all the way into Virginia on the east coast and not stopping at the Mississippi river and west. So, we have maybe .0001% of the cattle and game that there used to be. Most people aren't aware of the antelope that continue to exist in now rare amounts in the US midwest...people are aware of deer, but in many areas they are pests.
This stuff is so amazing. It blows my mind that this youtube video only has 7k views. Think of what those parts of the world would look like 50 to 80 years from now
So glad that he went back to the Brown revolution and too bad he didnit in address it in the TED talk. Most of the biodiversity IS below the soil. Wonderful, many thanks for uploadin Allan, always refreshing no matter how many times I see him
A lot of people get there power and wealth from a constant crisis. Getting rid of climate change and desertification will be far harder than an uphill battle. You will need every help you can get.
Yes you are right, thanks for pointing out my inaccurate statement - I was just trying to make the point that Savory's Ted talk has gotten more attention than most any Ted talks. Thank you for participating in the forum which is, by the way, about ways to restore the planet we've spent the last 10,000 (or so) years messing up. Has it been exactly 10,000 years - correct me if I'm wrong - when man started agriculture. More or less.
My uncle sent me this link.. and all I see is old heads talking about a problem we younger generations need to be handling and improving. Peace and love
Another step to reversing our negative impact and becoming sustainable. The next step is to replace our main fuels with renewable ones and maintain our population so we can live balanced with nature.
OK, flat-earthers - new report - check out the leaked IPCC fifth assessment. Can we now stop debating that man has caused climate change and get on with fixing the problem while we still have time? Holistic Management is one of our most powerful tools to restore soils and put carbon back into the ground.
When people point out that scientists are losing the PR battle to corporations and you ask why, come back and listen to the audio quality of this video. Unless scientists learn how to patch a camera into a sound system, we will never save humanity.
Check out Allan Savory's TED talk - almost 2 million have watched. Also, see what Savory is up to at The Savory Institute (google it). By cutting out fossil fuels, transforming agriculture, conserving energy, and building soils everywhere (city rooftops, vacant lots), in spite of what flat earthers (climate change deniers) say, we will fix our broken world.
Our worse problems is overpopulation that's been over stressing the environment & depleting non renewable resources & over using our renewable resources. We must stop population growth, use less per capita, reduce use of energy intensive machinery so more jobs are available. We need to build inward & abandon the suburbs furthest from the city. This would reduce commutes & save fuel which is in decline anyway. If we can't stop growth then collapse is inevitable.
And never was there a better example. Turns out that preserving your heart by never raising your heart rate or blood pressure does not actually make your circulatory system stronger!
That is not what he is saying. 1. Clearing the herbivores off the land so we could cultivate it, caused the problems. 2. Herbivores build topsoil and grassland. 3. Tilling the land destroys topsoil and causes desertification. Industrialisation only accelerated the process. 4. Industrialisation could have (and still can) corrected the problem if it had been used to dig ponds, to hold water and allow mass reintroduction of herbivores.
That you said nearly 2 million have watched it. That can't be told by the view count. Unless you actually work for the video hosting company and have personally queried the database and filtered the IP addresses. What do you think my point is?
wheat, meat and sugar cane are the most water consuming disease giving food items to day. Human being are also physically weak and getting degraded also along with land.
What dream are you living in? Now that the easy oil is running low, the energy industry is going after the tough energy. Tar sands, shale oil & gas. The dirtiest fuels are just starting. We're so far from running out of fossil fuels, we're pretty much doomed. Prices are plummeting on natural gas (86% lower than the peak several years ago.) The only hope we have is for a popular uprising that show people are willing to go to jail to stop the pollution of our planet. Enjoy your dream world.
He isn't wrong. Before Europeans came to North America, there was more than a billion bison and the Prarie lands were healthier and making soil. With industrial monoculture and chemical fertilizers the great plains are very degraded. We pen the animals up and ship their waste off as toxic. And then use chemical fertilizer to grow food to feed these animals. Creating nitrogen runoff and dead zones in the Gulf of Mexico
Cattle that grazed according to Savory’s method needed expensive supplemental feed, became stressed and fatigued, and lost enough weight to compromise the profitability of their meat. And even though Savory’s Grazing Trials took place during a period of freakishly high rainfall, with rates exceeding the average by 24 percent overall, the authors contend that Savory’s method “failed to produce the marked improvement in grass cover claimed from its application.” The authors of the overview concluded exactly what mainstream ecologists have been concluding for 40 years: “No grazing system has yet shown the capacity to overcome the long-term effects of overstocking and/or drought on vegetation productivity.” mikehudak.com/Articles/HM_Memo_131113.html www.thewildlifenews.com/2013/11/12/allan-savory-myth-and-reality/ www.slate.com/articles/life/food/2013/04/allan_savory_s_ted_talk_is_wrong_and_the_benefits_of_holistic_grazing_have.html freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/03/17/adam-merberg-on-grazing-and-allan-savory-and-ted/ www.hindawi.com/journals/ijbd/2014/163431/
Your statement reveals that you have only repeated a couple of articles that have no basis in accuracy. Your user name says it all - your "vegan"agenda. I personally know scores of grazers who are successfully restoring grassland by managing their environments holistically. I suspect you are not living in a rural area facing economic ruin from our destructive agriculture. Read Allan's book, and learn what the articles you cited completely got wrong. Speak to Gabe Broown or Greg Judy about how they are using Holistic Management. Once you've done that, show any other way to reverse desertification. Too bad for vegans, we have no better tools available to reverse climate change than animal agriculture managed Holistically. While you're at it, please point out any society that has thrived on the Earth following a vegan diet. And don't get me started on the numbers of living beings, human societies, and ecosystems decimated to grow your soybeans and vegan foods.
As an engineer, we learned what cherry picking results to support a preconceived conclusion is called; pseudoscience. You've done an admirable job of it here, but it remains pseudoscience. We are adopting holistic management on our ranch, where we raise pure Plains Bison and are able to store 2-5 tonnes of CO2 (in soil carbon) per acre, per annum. If we grew lentils or soybeans, the wildlife habitat we make our living off of would be chemically or mechanically sanitised of all natural biodiversity. Cropland agriculture is the most ecologically destructive human activity, with rice, cotton and soybeans being the top three most destructive crops. Stop with this utterly insane 'plant based diet' nonsense before all our natural wildlife species are extinct! We need to mimic nature with our agriculture and eat what it provides instead of burning millions of gallons of diesel plowing nature under to make lentil stew. Being ignorant or squeamish is no excuse for adopting a dietary system that destroys our natural ecosystem at an increasingly rapid rate.
I have learnt far more from listening to Allan Savory on you tube than 4 years at university with regards to land management etc...., pretty much turned everything I thought I knew on its head.
Some of the impressive aspets of Savory is that he acknowledges that he was wrong, and then went back to verifying data. This is a great show of the effect of the hollistic methods - th-cam.com/video/hRg1hOj-0iQ/w-d-xo.html
That is why universities are trying to keep this from becoming popular, it would render them useless if this knowledge spread too much.
So glad you find Allan's work inspiring - please share with your friends
Did this talk change anything at the Fletcher School?
I love this talk so much! I hope the "bright minds" in the room actually started doing something about what they heard.
This has LONGGGG been a theory of mine. I cant beleive this has been out there the whole time and i NEVER knew. Considering running for office for soil/water conservation in my state. (NC) ... Id be willing to quit my engineering job to do this.. THIS is changing the world. THIS is how you end world hunger. THIS is how you solve everything. THIS is energy.
we should chat more ..which part of engineering are you practicing in? im in recycling
Savory isn’t talking about North Carolina. N.C. gets rain all year long.
@@billsmith5109the practices are universal mate, simply the areas that are supplied with consistent annual rains that tend to not undergo much desertification to begin with,
but can always make an environment healthier, more vibrant and biodiverse. Cheers
Yeah, I actually think it might be a better sign that people are watching it over and over. I've seen it three times already myself, just to make sure I didn't miss anything.
Way to go Allan, spread the word around. You have found something that will make the world a little better for our kids.Kudos!!! :-)
We have to ignore our desire to "intervene" with restoring what we've degraded. The only force on earth powerful and reliable enough to restore soil, plants, and animals is to use nature itself. You couldn't drill enough wells to water the grasslands in a thousand years, yet in a decade could have streams and aquifers full of water by managing ruminants as Savory explains.
That's why he used a protocol in favor of nature. He let the cattle roam wild with other species so the plants can be decomposed and keep the water trapped into the soil for regrowth next season.
Steven Schwartz I'd like to add that drilling wells to water grasslands is a really bad idea. To take water from deep within the ground and water the surface will diminish the water in the ground. After a while that water will be depleted and we'd be in big trouble. It's far better to stop as much water from escaping back into the air as possible.
Krickistina plays Yea that would place us in a horrible quandary. I like the idea of having as much plant life (dead or alive) cover the soil as to keep the rain water from sunlight so the soil can be moist enough to bring the land back into its original state or even extend it.
Amazing presentation, thanks for uploading!
Armies change civilizations, farmers kill them! Love this guy. We can conquer climate change n avert civil war with this guys counsel, hope people listen.
Alan Savory begins speaking around @9:44.
Thanks for this great video.Thank you so much Schwartz!
9:44
There was once a billion bison living in the plains of America. A billion, think about that.
The amount of people who say it was around 6 million and claim that the approximately 2 million cattle today is "about the same" as the few million bison....but I have found that most of those people are not aware that bison were ranging all the way into Virginia on the east coast and not stopping at the Mississippi river and west. So, we have maybe .0001% of the cattle and game that there used to be. Most people aren't aware of the antelope that continue to exist in now rare amounts in the US midwest...people are aware of deer, but in many areas they are pests.
Do you have a link to the evidence for those numbers? Because the best evidence I've seen to date is around 60 million bison, give or take 10 million.
This stuff is so amazing. It blows my mind that this youtube video only has 7k views. Think of what those parts of the world would look like 50 to 80 years from now
So glad that he went back to the Brown revolution and too bad he didnit in address it in the TED talk. Most of the biodiversity IS below the soil. Wonderful, many thanks for uploadin Allan, always refreshing no matter how many times I see him
Google Allan Savory's TED talk - nearly two million have watched it.
Thank you so much for the upload! Wonderful video!
A lot of people get there power and wealth from a constant crisis. Getting rid of climate change and desertification will be far harder than an uphill battle. You will need every help you can get.
Yes you are right, thanks for pointing out my inaccurate statement - I was just trying to make the point that Savory's Ted talk has gotten more attention than most any Ted talks. Thank you for participating in the forum which is, by the way, about ways to restore the planet we've spent the last 10,000 (or so) years messing up. Has it been exactly 10,000 years - correct me if I'm wrong - when man started agriculture. More or less.
thank you all, for bringing hope.
You're entitled to your personal opinion, thanks for participating in the discussion.
"The problem is the solution" - Bill Mollison
My uncle sent me this link.. and all I see is old heads talking about a problem we younger generations need to be handling and improving. Peace and love
Another step to reversing our negative impact and becoming sustainable. The next step is to replace our main fuels with renewable ones and maintain our population so we can live balanced with nature.
So crucial, this information.
OK, flat-earthers - new report - check out the leaked IPCC fifth assessment. Can we now stop debating that man has caused climate change and get on with fixing the problem while we still have time? Holistic Management is one of our most powerful tools to restore soils and put carbon back into the ground.
well, it's been viewed 2 million times. That doesn't mean it was 2 million different people.
When people point out that scientists are losing the PR battle to corporations and you ask why, come back and listen to the audio quality of this video. Unless scientists learn how to patch a camera into a sound system, we will never save humanity.
Check out Allan Savory's TED talk - almost 2 million have watched. Also, see what Savory is up to at The Savory Institute (google it). By cutting out fossil fuels, transforming agriculture, conserving energy, and building soils everywhere (city rooftops, vacant lots), in spite of what flat earthers (climate change deniers) say, we will fix our broken world.
Almost 4 million now.
Splendid!
Are there any of his lectures in written words? I would be interested of them. Where I could buy them?
Thanks for eventuel answer.
There are multiple books now. Google will show you them.
the title is wrong he is talking about stopping desertification in regions with seasonal rainfall...
Ludwig Tertius Semper they are mutually inclusive. One affects the other
Do you remember the Family Guy mayor, in one episode he waters his plant and goes "Who's stealing my water!" when it soaked down XD
9:20 is where it starts.
Our worse problems is overpopulation that's been over stressing the environment & depleting non renewable resources & over using our renewable resources.
We must stop population growth, use less per capita, reduce use of energy intensive machinery so more jobs are available. We need to build inward & abandon the suburbs furthest from the city. This would reduce commutes & save fuel which is in decline anyway.
If we can't stop growth then collapse is inevitable.
And never was there a better example. Turns out that preserving your heart by never raising your heart rate or blood pressure does not actually make your circulatory system stronger!
Eat [therefrom] and pasture your livestock. Indeed, in that are signs for those of intelligence.
(Holy Quran 20:54)
That is not what he is saying.
1. Clearing the herbivores off the land so we could cultivate it, caused the problems.
2. Herbivores build topsoil and grassland.
3. Tilling the land destroys topsoil and causes desertification.
Industrialisation only accelerated the process.
4. Industrialisation could have (and still can) corrected the problem if it had been used to dig ponds, to hold water and allow mass reintroduction of herbivores.
That you said nearly 2 million have watched it. That can't be told by the view count. Unless you actually work for the video hosting company and have personally queried the database and filtered the IP addresses. What do you think my point is?
9.40 start
9:40
th-cam.com/video/uEAFTsFH_x4/w-d-xo.htmlm28s Jump to start of Allan.
And your point is....what?
Uuh
London
wheat, meat and sugar cane are the most water consuming disease giving food items to day. Human being are also physically weak and getting degraded also along with land.
What dream are you living in? Now that the easy oil is running low, the energy industry is going after the tough energy. Tar sands, shale oil & gas. The dirtiest fuels are just starting. We're so far from running out of fossil fuels, we're pretty much doomed. Prices are plummeting on natural gas (86% lower than the peak several years ago.) The only hope we have is for a popular uprising that show people are willing to go to jail to stop the pollution of our planet. Enjoy your dream world.
And what if you are wrong?
He isn't wrong.
Before Europeans came to North America, there was more than a billion bison and the Prarie lands were healthier and making soil.
With industrial monoculture and chemical fertilizers the great plains are very degraded. We pen the animals up and ship their waste off as toxic. And then use chemical fertilizer to grow food to feed these animals. Creating nitrogen runoff and dead zones in the Gulf of Mexico
More to the point, what if he _isn't_ wrong?
Cattle that grazed according to Savory’s method needed expensive supplemental feed, became stressed and fatigued, and lost enough weight to compromise the profitability of their meat. And even though Savory’s Grazing Trials took place during a period of freakishly high rainfall, with rates exceeding the average by 24 percent overall, the authors contend that Savory’s method “failed to produce the marked improvement in grass cover claimed from its application.” The authors of the overview concluded exactly what mainstream ecologists have been concluding for 40 years: “No grazing system has yet shown the capacity to overcome the long-term effects of overstocking and/or drought on vegetation productivity.”
mikehudak.com/Articles/HM_Memo_131113.html
www.thewildlifenews.com/2013/11/12/allan-savory-myth-and-reality/
www.slate.com/articles/life/food/2013/04/allan_savory_s_ted_talk_is_wrong_and_the_benefits_of_holistic_grazing_have.html
freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/03/17/adam-merberg-on-grazing-and-allan-savory-and-ted/
www.hindawi.com/journals/ijbd/2014/163431/
Your statement reveals that you have only repeated a couple of articles that have no basis in accuracy. Your user name says it all - your "vegan"agenda. I personally know scores of grazers who are successfully restoring grassland by managing their environments holistically. I suspect you are not living in a rural area facing economic ruin from our destructive agriculture.
Read Allan's book, and learn what the articles you cited completely got wrong. Speak to Gabe Broown or Greg Judy about how they are using Holistic Management. Once you've done that, show any other way to reverse desertification.
Too bad for vegans, we have no better tools available to reverse climate change than animal agriculture managed Holistically.
While you're at it, please point out any society that has thrived on the Earth following a vegan diet.
And don't get me started on the numbers of living beings, human societies, and ecosystems decimated to grow your soybeans and vegan foods.
Thank u for saying that.
You are welcome!
You are vegan I'm not surprise that you study the web to give kind of proof to your faith. Anyway interesting article.
As an engineer, we learned what cherry picking results to support a preconceived conclusion is called; pseudoscience. You've done an admirable job of it here, but it remains pseudoscience. We are adopting holistic management on our ranch, where we raise pure Plains Bison and are able to store 2-5 tonnes of CO2 (in soil carbon) per acre, per annum. If we grew lentils or soybeans, the wildlife habitat we make our living off of would be chemically or mechanically sanitised of all natural biodiversity. Cropland agriculture is the most ecologically destructive human activity, with rice, cotton and soybeans being the top three most destructive crops. Stop with this utterly insane 'plant based diet' nonsense before all our natural wildlife species are extinct! We need to mimic nature with our agriculture and eat what it provides instead of burning millions of gallons of diesel plowing nature under to make lentil stew. Being ignorant or squeamish is no excuse for adopting a dietary system that destroys our natural ecosystem at an increasingly rapid rate.