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Have had full size Range Rovers since 2010 so three different models and have NEVER had a problem with any of them. Superb drivers and if you properly service them you shouldn’t have any issues. All these people talking about “steer clear” have no idea how good a car a Range Rover can actually be.
.....so you’re the “one”? Lol. Seriously, good luck and happy motoring. Great cars and I would have one if they were more reliable, or if I win the lottery. Cheers
Having owned five Land Rovers, the only troublesome one was the Freelander, which is widely acknowledged as crap. All others are amazing on and off road. To all the Toyota fanboys, I’ve owned four. All were as interesting and fun as watching grass grow. Hope this helps those who maybe on the fence, from someone who has real world experience.
I was recently told by a Range Rover owner that the only people who say they are unreliable are those people who will never be able to afford to own one!! Most owners I have spoken to just love owning one. To date I personally have never owned one but...just this week I took the plunge and bought a facelift L405 (68 plate) P565 SV Autobiography which I will be picking up in the next few weeks (the dealership is detailing it and I am travelling in Portugal in the meantime). I genuinely can't wait - the test drive was wonderful if a bit sedate. I am looking forward to unleashing the power and enjoying the luxury! I can't wait to be a part of such an exclusive owners club (and I have worked for so long to get here). The comments on here and this honest video have only made me more appreciative of the luxury car I now own. Thank you to all contributors and thank you to "The Miles Driven".
I have to say, my Range Rover was always good to me - except the fuel economy 😅 but I knew that when I bought it. There is an extended guide in the works for the L405, similar to the one I did for the L322, I’ll be answering a few of the top comments from this video and similar to the L322 no doubt I’ll have a lot of ‘worst car ever’ comments with nothing backing it up, this is true of all the guides I’ve done for land and range rovers, people really do either love or hate them, all the best with your purchase 👍
Great in depth review without all the frills ...... the info you need to be informed without scare mongering, I've bought and sold Range Rover for over 30 years, this is the guide I'd advise my customers to read when making choices on their own, I particularly like the fact they make sure to advise that not " all" RR will suffer from these anomalies, but simply to be aware " they might" good honest, researched information.
After I read your description, I decided to ask your for your personal opinion after 3 decades of Range Rover experience. I live in Germany, I drive Jaguar XJ Models since more than 15 years. From Series II, 5,3 litres over the XJ8 to the X 350 Model, in the last time the wish came up to get myself an RR 405, to be honest from all buying guides, and advices of mechanics, I am totaly confused. It feels like, when I buy an RR 405 Diesel, the car won`t survive the next 20.000 mls. What is the best way to find a proper model with a good history and how to get a reliable check from a professional garage. I bougt a Jag a few years ago in the UK, got the healt check at the autorized Jag dealer, who sold the car when it was new. The did not find the issues the car in fact had. so i had a lot of problems after getting it to Germany and on the road. At least, is it probability to get problems with a round about 2014 car with around 90.000 mls? Thank you for your reply.
Bought a 2014 3.0 diesel in July 2022 with 82000 miles on it, was bought tong in cheek so to speak, given the stories I've heard. It's now coming up to 99000 and aside from tailgate having the occasional stick and a punture I've have no other problems with it, on top of that I've been getting 40mpg + on motorway runs. I have a Wraith and a Panamera but use the L405 all the time...brilliant all round car that somehow makes you feel special...love it.
Just to add for anyone my experience. On June 2022 i bought a used 2014 RR SS V8 in US. My mech recommend that year engine. Giving his son works on tons of european engines and most RR with bad engines that he teardown are from poor maintenance. Upon getting the car I noticed a grinding noise when steering and my mech said that is the steering electric motor. Nothing I can do until it goes out then replace the rack. You only hear it from within the cabin. When I got the vehicle home with about 70k miles i changed, engine oil, both diff oil, transfer case oil and transmission filter and oil. Then i cleaned intake system. Not recently since past month I noticed the valve cover sweating not heavy oil lost. So eventually need to replace gasket. I had rear caliper rubber boots worn and dealer wanted 570 for each rear brembo. I got the seal kit online for 5 each and restored both rear calipers to new. Replace fluids as expected and get vehicle inspected once a year. I will send to my mech for a week to inspect suspension and engine while replacing valve cover gasket. V8 gives 14 mpg commuting and highway road trip 22mpg. The V8 to me is better for an effortless drive for such a heavy vehicle.
@@Spartansrule118 for the most part yes. I had to do some work on part that by now are kind of expected. Engine mount, sway bar bushings, control arm, cv axle. Also some not expected, valve cover gasket, two injectors, water pump, cooling hose. Expensive but with over 100k it is stuff unexpected but the car rides and work great
Generally only people that haven’t owned a RR seem to tell everyone they are bad. I have had 6 RR and currently have the 5.0 supercharged and it’s fine as all others I have had from 3.0 diesel to the 4.4. silly basic problems which most cars get. Proper maintenance no issues. Don’t buy one if you can’t run one is the best advice on any luxury car.
im currently looking to but a 2017 v8 supercharged RR it has 100k miles on it though ..would you recommend any problems to look for before signing? thanks
I am the owner of V6 L405 built in Sept2013. I bought from UK at 29000miles and shipped to New Zealand. Serviced every year, cam belt done at 100000KM and Gearbox oil change at 105000KM. The main problem is tailgate closing issues. New Modules fitted but still top tailgate refuses to close itself, occasional height adjustment mal functions going up instead of down when parking. o mechanical problems save one rear wheel bearing failure(noise). Brakes and discs replaced on last service. Car now 9 years old only 110000KM (68750miles). At my age hope to run the car another 4/5 years without too much problems. Might add I am Ex B/L engineer so have knowledge to look after mechanics. my other toy 1987 V12 XJS
Mine is an early 2014 model year purchased October 2013 with the.3L gasoline V6 in Canada. It has been generally trouble free over these 9 years. Problems have included two O2 sensors (pretty cheap repair) and leaking a/c. Early issues under warranty were a clunking front end suspension fault. Generally an excellent car that still feels and looks new despite its salt laden winter environment. I replaced the audio head unit with an aftermarket UK system that has Android Auto. Great improvement. I hope to keep my L405 for years.
Great to hear these are standing up to Canadian winters well, much like parts of the Northern UK it certainly is a test of an underbody against all the road salt 😁👍
So I have a 2013 L405 and I love it. I’ve torn it apart and replaced plugs, filters , exhaust system at such on my own choice but not because it needed it. I just changed my filter and transmission fluid as well as transfer case. I change the oil often because I like to drive it hard and fast. The only part I’ve had to change due to failing belt making that know squeeking / squealing sound
I would drealy love a L405 supercharged V8. I am amazed that a company could produce a range of cars with so many defects over such a long time and still be business.
OMG!! I'm a little country girl in North Carolina and I feel like I've found the inside track on the Range Rover's hidden issues! This was outstanding! It gave me another level of confidence on my search now. I want a 2012 L322 but everyone thinks I'm crazy. The details are amazing...thanks for being a creator😘😘😘🖖!! Happy Holidays 🦃🎄🥂🎆!!
These comments are really encouraging, thank you very much, and we also have an earlier buyers guide on the L322 Range Rover 👍 There is also some more L322 content coming soon to the channel 😁
Hopefully this isn’t too late. According to my Rover mechanics 40 year’s combined experience. Most reliable Rovers are 2006 to 2010 L322. Preferably non supercharged HSE fully loaded.
We owned a 2015 SDV6 Vogue SE for around a year, no major breakdowns but the gear dial did completely lock us out in a car park once, the diff started to knock, the infotainment screen had periods of going really blurry, incredible to drive but always had a worrying feeling in the back of my head! I now have an old Toyota Land Cruiser v8 and am absolutely loving it!
Great to have some feedback from owners on the videos 😁 How has the Land Cruiser been for you? We recently did a buyer's guide for the J150 Land Cruiser Prado and looking at covering some of the others in future videos
@@themilesdriven it’s a 2008 J200 4.5D V8, it’s been absolutely incredible! 30k miles done in one year, anything from short journeys to 2500 miles round Europe in a week, heavy towing, off roading… it’s a bulletproof tank!
For any prospective owner I would suggest to always try and get one where a LAND ROVER WARRANTY is still available . You can get this continued if you buy with existing or a purchase up to 100,000 miles at around £1200 a year and repairs up to the value of the vehicle . So a very good warranty considering Turbo Leaks on V8 COULD BE A £6000 bill if needed . You buying a lot of car with lots of goodies on it , but they are not the the problems that you would think reading the reports
If you need to buy an extended warranty for any car it's because it is likely to break down with high repair costs. Only people I know who have bought extended warranties have been with the V10 M5, Astons and RR's.
@@Jamessansome Anyonr that buys a RR should always buy only a LR warranty . They’re very expensive vehicles if they go wrong . Advantage of a LR warranty is that they cover up the price of the vehicle !!
@@kevingospel5297 I just don't think RR's are good cars and they are a waste of resources as they just don't last. If you buy one with 100k on it's highly likely you'll be spending a fortune on it, selling for spares/repairs or parting it out. Everyone I know has had issues with RR's even when they are new.
This was a great video. Many thanks for the clear, well researched information. I currently have an L494 (2016) 4.4SDV8 in Scotland, just hit 82k miles and had it for 3 years. For me so far, never missed a beat but the lease will be up in a year and thinking to get an L405 next. I'll be looking to cash buy my next one and keep longer term likely so this has been very helpful indeed. Subbed, good job.
Finally purchased a 16 hse diesel with a warranty, love it. Not perfect but everything I expected. So far no problems. I did Lube the sunroof due to sqeeks now gone. I have more than one complaint about the RR dealer...shady folks IMO. It also doesn't like it if you do things quickly and the paint seems to scratch easily.
After a lot of reading and research, I'm buying an L322. It seems that the biggest issue is people just not maintaining the cars properly. Also, it is a relatively heavy and complex car. Some issues are to be expected as with any car.
Really interesting l of energy a l405 2014 my problems were egr valves it costed 800 1000 dollars to get a mecha ic to work on it dealer its a whole lot of money also replacing both batteries
That's a mighty crystal ball Andy 😁 we didn't get an L405 but we did pick up our first car for The Miles Driven TH-cam channel yesterday, so expect to see it appear in the coming months
I have CPO 2016 full size TD6. It suffered a catastrophic crankshaft failure at 19,000 miles requiring a new engine. Thankfully covered under warranty as it was about 30k. Otherwise, it has been a gem.
I just extended my warranty by 3 years or 160k. It cost cad9100$ plus a required 500$ inspection. The car still has the original warranty but it runs out Nov 2024.
I gave up watching this half way through! I love RR. But could not afford the up keep. I will stick with my Grand Scenic, which has also had a few issues!
I ordered a 2020 L 405 Td6 and I’m Absolutely Satisfied One maintenance issue I recently encountered 52k miles ….. Technician's comments: RECOMMEND ENGINE COOLANT RESTORATION KIT REPLACEMENT. PLASTIC IS NOT LEAKING BUT WILL BE VERY SOON. ENGINE COOLANT LEAKING FROM THESE PARTS AND CAUSE ENGINE DAMAGE IN MATTER OF SECONDS RECOMMEND REPLACEMENT DUE TO CONDITION AND AGE BEFORE THEY DO START LEAKING “When their Best isn’t Good enough, Range Rover! “
SDV6 Engines will all require a new throttle body before they reach 50,000 miles, likely sooner. The throttle sticks closed, causing a turbo overboost code and will quickly lead to a blocked DPF and nonstop misery until the throttle is replaced. The part was "improved" after 2 model years, but the failure mode and rate did not change.
Yes, MY 13 and 14 were affected by the tech bulletin. They claimed to have fixed it in 2015 but my 2017 (UK 17 plate) had the issue and required a new throttle body at 40k miles.
Love the L405. Opted for the L494 sport 3.0 SC with third seat. I love this vehicle. Power is decent but it’s just a jack of all trades and just so comfortable. I do all my own maintenance and it is no different to any other 4WD except more capable IMO. Pretty straight forward to work on.
Let us know if you find anyone that has compiled all the appropriate worldwide VINs, production dates, parts numbers, and recall codes onto a spreadsheet and we'll add a link in the description of the video 👍
My father bought, a 2017 model. Faulty suspension, electronics, gearbox issues on gear changes. Good looking car, but poor reliability! I was shocked. His previous car, a mercedes e320 CDI w212, was much better and much more reliable!
So, would it be fair to say that a post 2017 version would be most reliable? Avoid diesel if your annual mileage is low as even running a 5.0 petrol won't cost you anywhere near the same amount as repairing broken ERG valves and turbos etc?
2017 onwards did seem to perform better in terms of overall reliability as LR ironed out some of the common issues and we found fewer overall reported problems. Yes if your mileage is low the 5.0-litre is a good choice, but for those that tow a lot or drive high mileage the diesel will likely be more economical 👍
Can you folks shore in the USA model of 2017 RR SC autobiography edition what is expected to break around 100k miles. Trying to be careful and avoid a headache for next 2-3 years.thanks.
In the Market for one I think…however there seems to a bipolar relationship between this vehicle and the public. What I understand from several sources including this one is that 2016 models forward with lower miles and have been well serviced have considerably less issues.
Having owned a Range Rover I always felt there were in fact 3 camps. Owners - Enthusiasts of the brand, loved them, wouldn’t own anything else, just accepted it wasn’t a cheap car to run and got on with driving it Owners- had a problem, Wouldn’t own another and fair play they actually bought one and made up their own mind Non owners - a very loud group, they will tell you how these machines will cost you the earth and then snap in half going over a twig. Generally found posting comments on this video in capital letters saying DONT BUY with no reasoning and not watching the video 😅 although credit where credit is due a few do give reasoning I try to stay neutral in all the buyers guides, but since I’ve owned a Range Rover it’s clear I’d be biased. I’d say this guide probably offers the highest value of the more than 100 on the channel, a bad one can easily cost you lots quickly, so knowing what to check can really dodge big bills 👍
I have a 2021 Range Rover Vogue (L405) but this useless visual front LCD display overspeed warning alerting me constantly when faster than 120 km/h annoys the sh?*t out of me. Haven't found an option to disable this. Anyone?
Sorry to say after a disasterous experience with a 2016 RR sport diesel, I would rather walk that have another RR and especially not having to deal with the pathetic Dealers. I bet that less than 2% will actually travel on mud.
Looking through Auto trader classifieds and there is no mention of whether a vehicle ia lwb model or a standard car, how do I know if a car is a lwb version?
If it’s autotrader U.K., scroll to the bottom of the extended menu, type LWB into the keywords section. You should have around 350 cars show up, but Auto trader will slip in promoted ads so look for LWB written at the end of the title to be sure 👍
@@themilesdriven not yet, but my family used to have Two L322’s when they were the current generation Hse & Supercharged. I was to young at the time to drive haha. But they said the difference wasn’t too drastic, but the supercharged felt a tad bit faster. I’m gonna assume the same would transfer over to the L405 Gen. Anyways thanks for the vid, very informative.
We are going to assume you are comparing the gas (petrol) engines only. If diesel we'd say the TDV8. For gas, does your budget stretch to the 2018 model year (facelift)? The thing to remember is there are other expensive parts on the Range Rover, a well-kept V6 is a better buy than a 5.0 V8 with lots of owners and patchy history. If you plan on towing though you will probably prefer the V8. 👍
The V6 is a relatively good unit and by 2016 it had been in the JLR lineup for a few years. The naturally aspirated V8 would get less gas mileage but might be easier to get independent shops to work on. Hope that helps 😁
The V6 and V8 have the same issue with cooling. Earlier models especially, as the pipes were a two part construction that can split. If this happens and the car dumps coolant, you need to pull over instantly and get picked up, driving through it will most likely kill the engine. Later years moved to a one piece design which is more robust. However you can replace all these parts with aluminium versions. The V6's have a slightly higher instance of the crankshaft bearings going as it's pushing around more weight than that engine does in a Jaguar. This isn't too common with maintained, well treated RRs, but I'd avoid ones with a shady history.
Hey, I have a 2013 L405 sdv8. I’m having the same issue with the clunking suspension noise. Never really found out what it was but I changed both of my lower control arms, both sway bar links and both sway bar bushing rubbers. But like you correctly said, I only hear it going up uneven road surfaces or over a speed bump. What can I look into repairing or changing next? 😯
@Vishal Jaglal is you vin number within the range of chassis that were recalled for suspension strut replacement, if so do you have a service record of the recall being performed?
Which model years are you looking at Kyle? As a quick answer, the 5.0 V8 does have a few known issues as we point out in the guide but is generally more robust 👍
We have clarified our comment as we had oversimplified the relation between Ford and JLR. The AJV8 is a JLR engine built in the Ford Bridgend factory (Wales, UK). There was a dedicated area inside the factory to build this motor. Ford and JLR had a close relationship for the AJV8 which has lasted until recently. So the answer is the 5.0L Jag engine is a Jag engine built by Ford for all model years 👍
It's a wide variety of electrical issues that can be caused but it can have different impacts depending on the age of the vehicle, whether it is a plug-in hybrid, whether there are additional optional extras that may be impacted. Our lists are non-exhaustive so that people can add personal experience in the comments to help others 😁 if you've experienced an issue after the auxiliary battery has died please let us know what happened so others can see 👍
Can we have some clarification on the fault of the JLR Range Roved that caused the Luton airport carpark fire? I have heard there been numerous RRs self destructing
You are correct Tony, this was an oversight our our part. The 2.0-litre motors in JLR from late 2016 onwards are JLR Ingenium units. We have snipped the word Ford from the video, Thank you for your diligent comment 👍
@Tony Gascoigne This is a slightly long reply but hopefully it is helpful. In a nutshell, short mileage drivers are probably better suited to the P400e, especially if the miles are in the town/city.. The areas identified as weaknesses on the Ingenium petrol/gasoline unit (in other applications that have been fitted with the motor from 2016) can be boiled down to cooling, lubrication, and timing. We don't mention these in the video as these issues have barely any records by L405 owners, but can be found by looking at reports from Evoque, Velar, Jag XE owners. Many of these are not the PHEV version though. The oil pump has recorded failures causing lubrication issues that can result in engine damage. however we must stress, due to the age of these engines the exact failure rate is difficult to pinpoint and many that were showing early symptoms would have been replaced under manufacturer warranty, whether the problem is recurring is too early to tell. Second the timing issue, this seems almost unfair to mention as a handful of failures have been rightfully shouted about by owners due to catastrophic damage, but again due to the age of the engine it isn't clear if a batch of motors were impacted and others are fine. We didn't find the failure recorded by L405 owners. Lastly, cooling. You rightly pointed out this is a JLR Ingenium engine, however the development done prior to 2016 likely had Ford development help for cost reasons. All manufacturers do this where a similar goal is desired. In the video we don't mention this as it would be unfair and not based on empirical data which we try to avoid, but we are reminded of the Ford 2.0 ecoboost suffering cooling issues. The Ford block was redesigned in circa 2018/19 to change the channels that the coolant runs in, the previous design allowed hot spots to form and damage either cylinder 2 or 3. From memory there may have been a lawsuit in the USA about the design but don't quote us on that. It is sensible to assume the information on cooling and redesign was shared with JLR if the same cooling design was used, and since there are recorded coolant issues on the 2.0-litre Ingenium engines in some JLR cars this may be a fair assumption. We should stress that although we have actually seen the teardown of the 2.0 Ford eco boost and seen the different channels for cooling between old and new design, we haven't for a 2.0-litre Ingenium to say for sure the design is matching it. For a high regard to caution we'll assume they are. For this reason it may be safer to look at a 2019 model onwards, rather than the 2018 release year. A final note though is that to the best of our knowledge P400e owners are not reporting this but again, the engine is still so new and most are only just leaving warranty so the information on this is harder to be precise with. Finding a 2019 onward model may also mean some balance of manufacturer warranty that could be extended for a couple of years within a deal (if buying from a dealer). As ever best of luck with your car search and we hope this info helps you and anyone else scrolling through the comments that are looking for a P400e 👍
Good god, who would honestly go near these cars? Fine if you just like the look and are completely ignorant of all the potential issues, but even a cursory look at videos to do with the many problems of Range Rovers would influence most sensible people to steer well clear.
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Have had full size Range Rovers since 2010 so three different models and have NEVER had a problem with any of them. Superb drivers and if you properly service them you shouldn’t have any issues. All these people talking about “steer clear” have no idea how good a car a Range Rover can actually be.
Great comment about keeping these well maintained. As we write on many replies to our guides, take care of the car and it will take care of you 👍
.....so you’re the “one”? Lol. Seriously, good luck and happy motoring. Great cars and I would have one if they were more reliable, or if I win the lottery. Cheers
You are in minority or you are English. Many people have complained about the car
Same here, but there are RR haters out there who have never owned one and never will.
How new were the RR you had?
Having owned five Land Rovers, the only troublesome one was the Freelander, which is widely acknowledged as crap. All others are amazing on and off road. To all the Toyota fanboys, I’ve owned four. All were as interesting and fun as watching grass grow. Hope this helps those who maybe on the fence, from someone who has real world experience.
I was recently told by a Range Rover owner that the only people who say they are unreliable are those people who will never be able to afford to own one!! Most owners I have spoken to just love owning one. To date I personally have never owned one but...just this week I took the plunge and bought a facelift L405 (68 plate) P565 SV Autobiography which I will be picking up in the next few weeks (the dealership is detailing it and I am travelling in Portugal in the meantime). I genuinely can't wait - the test drive was wonderful if a bit sedate. I am looking forward to unleashing the power and enjoying the luxury! I can't wait to be a part of such an exclusive owners club (and I have worked for so long to get here). The comments on here and this honest video have only made me more appreciative of the luxury car I now own. Thank you to all contributors and thank you to "The Miles Driven".
I have to say, my Range Rover was always good to me - except the fuel economy 😅 but I knew that when I bought it. There is an extended guide in the works for the L405, similar to the one I did for the L322, I’ll be answering a few of the top comments from this video and similar to the L322 no doubt I’ll have a lot of ‘worst car ever’ comments with nothing backing it up, this is true of all the guides I’ve done for land and range rovers, people really do either love or hate them, all the best with your purchase 👍
Hahaha my 2013 range rover vogue sdv8 run 183.219 km without issue , im from australia and already travelling with my lovely rover ❤❤
Great in depth review without all the frills ...... the info you need to be informed without scare mongering, I've bought and sold Range Rover for over 30 years, this is the guide I'd advise my customers to read when making choices on their own, I particularly like the fact they make sure to advise that not " all" RR will suffer from these anomalies, but simply to be aware " they might" good honest, researched information.
Really appreciated 😁
After I read your description, I decided to ask your for your personal opinion after 3 decades of Range Rover experience. I live in Germany, I drive Jaguar XJ Models since more than 15 years. From Series II, 5,3 litres over the XJ8 to the X 350 Model,
in the last time the wish came up to get myself an RR 405, to be honest from all buying guides, and advices of mechanics, I am totaly confused. It feels like, when I buy an RR 405 Diesel, the car won`t survive the next 20.000 mls.
What is the best way to find a proper model with a good history and how to get a reliable check from a professional garage.
I bougt a Jag a few years ago in the UK, got the healt check at the autorized Jag dealer, who sold the car when it was new. The did not find the issues the car in fact had. so i had a lot of problems after getting it to Germany and on the road.
At least, is it probability to get problems with a round about 2014 car with around 90.000 mls?
Thank you for your reply.
Bought a 2014 3.0 diesel in July 2022 with 82000 miles on it, was bought tong in cheek so to speak, given the stories I've heard. It's now coming up to 99000 and aside from tailgate having the occasional stick and a punture I've have no other problems with it, on top of that I've been getting 40mpg + on motorway runs. I have a Wraith and a Panamera but use the L405 all the time...brilliant all round car that somehow makes you feel special...love it.
Great to hear another ownership experience, thanks for adding 👍
Wait a minute. You have a wraith and a panamera, but bought an 8 year old Range?
Just to add for anyone my experience. On June 2022 i bought a used 2014 RR SS V8 in US. My mech recommend that year engine. Giving his son works on tons of european engines and most RR with bad engines that he teardown are from poor maintenance. Upon getting the car I noticed a grinding noise when steering and my mech said that is the steering electric motor. Nothing I can do until it goes out then replace the rack. You only hear it from within the cabin. When I got the vehicle home with about 70k miles i changed, engine oil, both diff oil, transfer case oil and transmission filter and oil. Then i cleaned intake system. Not recently since past month I noticed the valve cover sweating not heavy oil lost. So eventually need to replace gasket. I had rear caliper rubber boots worn and dealer wanted 570 for each rear brembo. I got the seal kit online for 5 each and restored both rear calipers to new. Replace fluids as expected and get vehicle inspected once a year. I will send to my mech for a week to inspect suspension and engine while replacing valve cover gasket. V8 gives 14 mpg commuting and highway road trip 22mpg. The V8 to me is better for an effortless drive for such a heavy vehicle.
Has it been overall reliable?
@@Spartansrule118 for the most part yes. I had to do some work on part that by now are kind of expected. Engine mount, sway bar bushings, control arm, cv axle. Also some not expected, valve cover gasket, two injectors, water pump, cooling hose. Expensive but with over 100k it is stuff unexpected but the car rides and work great
Generally only people that haven’t owned a RR seem to tell everyone they are bad. I have had 6 RR and currently have the 5.0 supercharged and it’s fine as all others I have had from 3.0 diesel to the 4.4. silly basic problems which most cars get. Proper maintenance no issues. Don’t buy one if you can’t run one is the best advice on any luxury car.
im currently looking to but a 2017 v8 supercharged RR it has 100k miles on it though ..would you recommend any problems to look for before signing? thanks
The key word on your comment is “Generally” because realistically and statistically the cars are the most unreliable in the market.
I am the owner of V6 L405 built in Sept2013. I bought from UK at 29000miles and shipped to New Zealand. Serviced every year, cam belt done at 100000KM and Gearbox oil change at 105000KM. The main problem is tailgate closing issues. New Modules fitted but still top tailgate refuses to close itself, occasional height adjustment mal functions going up instead of down when parking. o mechanical problems save one rear wheel bearing failure(noise). Brakes and discs replaced on last service. Car now 9 years old only 110000KM (68750miles). At my age hope to run the car another 4/5 years without too much problems. Might add I am Ex B/L engineer so have knowledge to look after mechanics. my other toy 1987 V12 XJS
Thanks for adding your feedback of ownership of the L405 😁 Double thumbs up from us on the V12 XJS 👍👍
Mine is an early 2014 model year purchased October 2013 with the.3L gasoline V6 in Canada. It has been generally trouble free over these 9 years. Problems have included two O2 sensors (pretty cheap repair) and leaking a/c. Early issues under warranty were a clunking front end suspension fault. Generally an excellent car that still feels and looks new despite its salt laden winter environment. I replaced the audio head unit with an aftermarket UK system that has Android Auto. Great improvement. I hope to keep my L405 for years.
Great to hear these are standing up to Canadian winters well, much like parts of the Northern UK it certainly is a test of an underbody against all the road salt 😁👍
I’m in ontario and looking for one. Didn’t know there was a gasoline V6, thought there was only the TDv6.
I don't believe the diesel was even an option in Canada. The 3,0 L gas V6 was also used commonly in the Jags. @Spartansrule118
@@m.cooper1854 how has your range rover been holding up since then?
By far the most thorough video on this vehicle I have been able to find. Thank you.
Thank you, comments like this are really appreciated after the hours of edits done to try and make the best video for you 👍
So I have a 2013 L405 and I love it. I’ve torn it apart and replaced plugs, filters , exhaust system at such on my own choice but not because it needed it. I just changed my filter and transmission fluid as well as transfer case. I change the oil often because I like to drive it hard and fast. The only part I’ve had to change due to failing belt making that know squeeking / squealing sound
I would drealy love a L405 supercharged V8. I am amazed that a company could produce a range of cars with so many defects over such a long time and still be business.
OMG!! I'm a little country girl in North Carolina and I feel like I've found the inside track on the Range Rover's hidden issues! This was outstanding! It gave me another level of confidence on my search now. I want a 2012 L322 but everyone thinks I'm crazy. The details are amazing...thanks for being a creator😘😘😘🖖!!
Happy Holidays 🦃🎄🥂🎆!!
These comments are really encouraging, thank you very much, and we also have an earlier buyers guide on the L322 Range Rover 👍 There is also some more L322 content coming soon to the channel 😁
@@themilesdriven Thanks😘!
Go for the car L322 😊
@@charlieboylol527 😘Thanks! I hope you have your car crush!!
Hopefully this isn’t too late. According to my Rover mechanics 40 year’s combined experience. Most reliable Rovers are 2006 to 2010 L322. Preferably non supercharged HSE fully loaded.
We owned a 2015 SDV6 Vogue SE for around a year, no major breakdowns but the gear dial did completely lock us out in a car park once, the diff started to knock, the infotainment screen had periods of going really blurry, incredible to drive but always had a worrying feeling in the back of my head! I now have an old Toyota Land Cruiser v8 and am absolutely loving it!
Great to have some feedback from owners on the videos 😁 How has the Land Cruiser been for you? We recently did a buyer's guide for the J150 Land Cruiser Prado and looking at covering some of the others in future videos
@@themilesdriven it’s a 2008 J200 4.5D V8, it’s been absolutely incredible! 30k miles done in one year, anything from short journeys to 2500 miles round Europe in a week, heavy towing, off roading… it’s a bulletproof tank!
Thanks for the info, its always helpful to get an owner comment as we work on future scripts 👍
@@ukdrive4082 which SUV is more comfortable to drive Land Rover vs land cruiser Toyota ??
@@Kassiusday The Range Rover is far more luxurious and smooth on the road whereas the Toyota feels more at home off road
For any prospective owner I would suggest to always try and get one where a LAND ROVER WARRANTY is still available . You can get this continued if you buy with existing or a purchase up to 100,000 miles at around £1200 a year and repairs up to the value of the vehicle . So a very good warranty considering Turbo Leaks on V8 COULD BE A £6000 bill if needed . You buying a lot of car with lots of goodies on it , but they are not the the problems that you would think reading the reports
Great tip 👍
If you need to buy an extended warranty for any car it's because it is likely to break down with high repair costs. Only people I know who have bought extended warranties have been with the V10 M5, Astons and RR's.
@@Jamessansome Anyonr that buys a RR should always buy only a LR warranty . They’re very expensive vehicles if they go wrong . Advantage of a LR warranty is that they cover up the price of the vehicle !!
@@kevingospel5297 I just don't think RR's are good cars and they are a waste of resources as they just don't last. If you buy one with 100k on it's highly likely you'll be spending a fortune on it, selling for spares/repairs or parting it out. Everyone I know has had issues with RR's even when they are new.
@@Jamessansome You’ve obviously never owned a RR of any sort !! If you had you’d never say that !!
This was a great video. Many thanks for the clear, well researched information. I currently have an L494 (2016) 4.4SDV8 in Scotland, just hit 82k miles and had it for 3 years. For me so far, never missed a beat but the lease will be up in a year and thinking to get an L405 next. I'll be looking to cash buy my next one and keep longer term likely so this has been very helpful indeed. Subbed, good job.
Comments like this are really appreciated, many thanks 👍
Finally purchased a 16 hse diesel with a warranty, love it. Not perfect but everything I expected. So far no problems. I did Lube the sunroof due to sqeeks now gone. I have more than one complaint about the RR dealer...shady folks IMO. It also doesn't like it if you do things quickly and the paint seems to scratch easily.
Thanks for the ownership experience feedback. Some very useful info for those looking at buying 👍
I have a 2016 TD6! Runs great 8 months a year.
After a lot of reading and research, I'm buying an L322. It seems that the biggest issue is people just not maintaining the cars properly. Also, it is a relatively heavy and complex car. Some issues are to be expected as with any car.
Really interesting l of energy a l405 2014 my problems were egr valves it costed 800 1000 dollars to get a mecha ic to work on it dealer its a whole lot of money also replacing both batteries
Done your homework on this one. Lots of detail.
Thanks Andy, we put a lot of time into this one so happy to hear it shows 😁
@@themilesdriven So much research you must be thinking of buying one yourselves?
That's a mighty crystal ball Andy 😁 we didn't get an L405 but we did pick up our first car for The Miles Driven TH-cam channel yesterday, so expect to see it appear in the coming months
I am about to purchase a 2018 SDV8 SE,with 94,000kms on it.
Thanks for the excellent informative advice
Thanks for the positive feedback 👍
Damn! The L405 design was nice. It gives typical SUV feeling and looks. Current one is also nice.
Yes each generation seems to have its own charm 😁
Let's hope they won't change design much even in sixth generation model. Which will launch in 2031 and on sell in 2032.
I have CPO 2016 full size TD6. It suffered a catastrophic crankshaft failure at 19,000 miles requiring a new engine. Thankfully covered under warranty as it was about 30k. Otherwise, it has been a gem.
Always great to have an owner share their experience with the cars we create videos for, thanks for adding 😁
Your trying to be funny?
I’m selling my Range Rover Evoque. 2016 model (Warwickshire UK) now. Will be replacing it with another Range Rover Evoque. Love them…
Hairdressers Range Rover
I just extended my warranty by 3 years or 160k. It cost cad9100$ plus a required 500$ inspection. The car still has the original warranty but it runs out Nov 2024.
I gave up watching this half way through! I love RR. But could not afford the up keep. I will stick with my Grand Scenic, which has also had a few issues!
I ordered a 2020 L 405 Td6 and I’m Absolutely Satisfied
One maintenance issue I recently encountered 52k miles …..
Technician's comments:
RECOMMEND ENGINE COOLANT
RESTORATION KIT REPLACEMENT. PLASTIC IS NOT LEAKING BUT WILL BE VERY SOON.
ENGINE COOLANT LEAKING FROM THESE PARTS AND CAUSE ENGINE DAMAGE IN MATTER OF SECONDS RECOMMEND
REPLACEMENT DUE TO CONDITION AND AGE BEFORE THEY DO START LEAKING
“When their Best isn’t Good enough, Range Rover! “
I remember reading if you spec the panoramic roof over half of the weight saving won through the all-aluminium body is lost.
Great additional information, thanks 👍
worth having imo. The pano also flattens out the roof makes the vehicle look different depending on the colors.
I have experienced the tailgate issue and it’s since resolved itself. However it does make a weird noise which I imagine the support need replacing.
Great info vid . As I'm thinking of getting 2016 3.0 disel from dealer. Hhhmmmm yeah
Too bad the promos for the next video blocks off all the information on the list of issues at the end...
SDV6 Engines will all require a new throttle body before they reach 50,000 miles, likely sooner. The throttle sticks closed, causing a turbo overboost code and will quickly lead to a blocked DPF and nonstop misery until the throttle is replaced. The part was "improved" after 2 model years, but the failure mode and rate did not change.
Thanks for adding this great bit of info. Do you know if LR ever raised a service bulletin for any particular model years? 👍
Yes, MY 13 and 14 were affected by the tech bulletin. They claimed to have fixed it in 2015 but my 2017 (UK 17 plate) had the issue and required a new throttle body at 40k miles.
Great honest review, conclusion why oh why would you buy one.
Great review I took some notes I’m in the market for a L 405
All the best on your car search, we’re glad the guide was helpful 👍
Superb video guide. Thank you for making such an effort
Thanks you for the encouraging comment 😁
Love the L405. Opted for the L494 sport 3.0 SC with third seat. I love this vehicle. Power is decent but it’s just a jack of all trades and just so comfortable. I do all my own maintenance and it is no different to any other 4WD except more capable IMO. Pretty straight forward to work on.
I think it’s the best car in the world,thanks
Lol really
Might upgrade my L322 to an early L405
Both have their own charms 😁
Great video, but would be good if this data was transcribed over to a spreadsheet, enabling filtering between major components?
Let us know if you find anyone that has compiled all the appropriate worldwide VINs, production dates, parts numbers, and recall codes onto a spreadsheet and we'll add a link in the description of the video 👍
That’s a very extensive list of possible faults!! Think I’ll look for a 2012 L322 and give the later 405 a miss!!
Worth a watch of the extended guide for the l322 I did a while back 👍 - th-cam.com/video/F8iR79teKDY/w-d-xo.html
@ cheers. Will look it up.
What a great detailed review… thank you guys…
It's comments like this we make our videos for 😁
Very tempting and attractive SUV. But if you drive a lot of miles, probably best to buy one as a second car, or hobby vehicle.
Very useful. Thanks very much!
My father bought, a 2017 model. Faulty suspension, electronics, gearbox issues on gear changes. Good looking car, but poor reliability! I was shocked. His previous car, a mercedes e320 CDI w212, was much better and much more reliable!
2019 td6 replaced def system under warranty now no issues. I’m wondering what preventative measures need to be completed. 50k miles in so far
So, would it be fair to say that a post 2017 version would be most reliable? Avoid diesel if your annual mileage is low as even running a 5.0 petrol won't cost you anywhere near the same amount as repairing broken ERG valves and turbos etc?
2017 onwards did seem to perform better in terms of overall reliability as LR ironed out some of the common issues and we found fewer overall reported problems. Yes if your mileage is low the 5.0-litre is a good choice, but for those that tow a lot or drive high mileage the diesel will likely be more economical 👍
My beautiful 2016 sdv8 has been hit in rear so breaking car as insurers offer terrible settlement, car is Uk located
Fabulous concise review, really useful guys, thank you..❤
We really appreciate comments like this, thank you 👍
Can you folks shore in the USA model of 2017 RR SC autobiography edition what is expected to break around 100k miles. Trying to be careful and avoid a headache for next 2-3 years.thanks.
In the Market for one I think…however there seems to a bipolar relationship between this vehicle and the public.
What I understand from several sources including this one is that 2016 models forward with lower miles and have been well serviced have considerably less issues.
Having owned a Range Rover I always felt there were in fact 3 camps.
Owners - Enthusiasts of the brand, loved them, wouldn’t own anything else, just accepted it wasn’t a cheap car to run and got on with driving it
Owners- had a problem, Wouldn’t own another and fair play they actually bought one and made up their own mind
Non owners - a very loud group, they will tell you how these machines will cost you the earth and then snap in half going over a twig. Generally found posting comments on this video in capital letters saying DONT BUY with no reasoning and not watching the video 😅 although credit where credit is due a few do give reasoning
I try to stay neutral in all the buyers guides, but since I’ve owned a Range Rover it’s clear I’d be biased. I’d say this guide probably offers the highest value of the more than 100 on the channel, a bad one can easily cost you lots quickly, so knowing what to check can really dodge big bills 👍
@@themilesdriven got my fingers crossed I pick a good one lol
I have a 2021 Range Rover Vogue (L405) but this useless visual front LCD display overspeed warning alerting me constantly when faster than 120 km/h annoys the sh?*t out of me. Haven't found an option to disable this. Anyone?
Sorry to say after a disasterous experience with a 2016 RR sport diesel, I would rather walk that have another RR and especially not having to deal with the pathetic Dealers. I bet that less than 2% will actually travel on mud.
Our buyer's guide for the L494 Range Rover Sport is being created shortly, any particular problems that you experienced please let us know 👍
Brilliant review Thankyou.
Looking through Auto trader classifieds and there is no mention of whether a vehicle ia lwb model or a standard car, how do I know if a car is a lwb version?
If it’s autotrader U.K., scroll to the bottom of the extended menu, type LWB into the keywords section. You should have around 350 cars show up, but Auto trader will slip in promoted ads so look for LWB written at the end of the title to be sure 👍
@@themilesdriven thank you
Excellent presentation.
Many thanks 👍
Are the 5.0 v8 gas engine in a 2015 range rover reliable ? What do I gotta look Into a yoused one ??
I have a l405 with 150 k miles and 2015 and I have no problems I also run e85 in mine for 3 tanks and then another with premium gas
US MARKET here, still debating on whether to go for an HSE V6 or Supercharged V8, preferably 16-17 model year
Have you driven both to see how you feel about the power difference? 👍
@@themilesdriven not yet, but my family used to have Two L322’s when they were the current generation Hse & Supercharged. I was to young at the time to drive haha. But they said the difference wasn’t too drastic, but the supercharged felt a tad bit faster. I’m gonna assume the same would transfer over to the L405 Gen. Anyways thanks for the vid, very informative.
Do the V8. I have driven both and having that extra power is a major difference when you need it
Great review! Wish you would do one on the l494 🔥
It's on our list of future videos 😁
Any chance of looking at the 2018 3ltr MHEV ? Great info and so impressed with your knowledge and unbiased review. Thank you! 🙏
Wow! Awesome work!
Really appreciate comments like this, thank you 👍
That's a serious review, fantastic.
Thank you 👍
Great video, now wheres that lottery win
maybe numbers four, zero, and five could be lucky 😁
Which Range Rover is better to buy The v6 or v8 and which year? I'm in the market shopping for a 2016 and up V6 3.0 gas. Thank you
We are going to assume you are comparing the gas (petrol) engines only. If diesel we'd say the TDV8. For gas, does your budget stretch to the 2018 model year (facelift)? The thing to remember is there are other expensive parts on the Range Rover, a well-kept V6 is a better buy than a 5.0 V8 with lots of owners and patchy history. If you plan on towing though you will probably prefer the V8. 👍
@@themilesdriven yes, I'm looking for the gas engine because I live in the USA. I'm looking to get a v6 2016 and up range rover
The V6 is a relatively good unit and by 2016 it had been in the JLR lineup for a few years. The naturally aspirated V8 would get less gas mileage but might be easier to get independent shops to work on. Hope that helps 😁
Toyota?
The V6 and V8 have the same issue with cooling. Earlier models especially, as the pipes were a two part construction that can split. If this happens and the car dumps coolant, you need to pull over instantly and get picked up, driving through it will most likely kill the engine. Later years moved to a one piece design which is more robust. However you can replace all these parts with aluminium versions.
The V6's have a slightly higher instance of the crankshaft bearings going as it's pushing around more weight than that engine does in a Jaguar. This isn't too common with maintained, well treated RRs, but I'd avoid ones with a shady history.
Hey, I have a 2013 L405 sdv8. I’m having the same issue with the clunking suspension noise. Never really found out what it was but I changed both of my lower control arms, both sway bar links and both sway bar bushing rubbers. But like you correctly said, I only hear it going up uneven road surfaces or over a speed bump. What can I look into repairing or changing next? 😯
@Vishal Jaglal is you vin number within the range of chassis that were recalled for suspension strut replacement, if so do you have a service record of the recall being performed?
Thanks, great film.
I wouldn't touch one with a barge pole!
I have 2014 and the gear knob completely locked
Very interesting thanks 👍👍
Thanks for the encouraging comment 😁
What would be the most reliable engine I live in the US the V6 supercharged V8 supercharged or the td V6?
Which model years are you looking at Kyle? As a quick answer, the 5.0 V8 does have a few known issues as we point out in the guide but is generally more robust 👍
We have clarified our comment as we had oversimplified the relation between Ford and JLR. The AJV8 is a JLR engine built in the Ford Bridgend factory (Wales, UK). There was a dedicated area inside the factory to build this motor. Ford and JLR had a close relationship for the AJV8 which has lasted until recently. So the answer is the 5.0L Jag engine is a Jag engine built by Ford for all model years 👍
Shocking!!! Nuff said.
Why dont you explain what happens when the auxiliary battery goes dead ?
It's a wide variety of electrical issues that can be caused but it can have different impacts depending on the age of the vehicle, whether it is a plug-in hybrid, whether there are additional optional extras that may be impacted. Our lists are non-exhaustive so that people can add personal experience in the comments to help others 😁 if you've experienced an issue after the auxiliary battery has died please let us know what happened so others can see 👍
Mine is dead and it just disables Start-Stop
Can we have some clarification on the fault of the JLR Range Roved that caused the Luton airport carpark fire? I have heard there been numerous RRs self destructing
I thought the 2 L was JLR engine, not a Ford eco-boost
You are correct Tony, this was an oversight our our part. The 2.0-litre motors in JLR from late 2016 onwards are JLR Ingenium units. We have snipped the word Ford from the video, Thank you for your diligent comment 👍
@@themilesdriven I want to know if the P400e is a good buy. I typical drive less than 20 miles and have a home charger.
@Tony Gascoigne This is a slightly long reply but hopefully it is helpful. In a nutshell, short mileage drivers are probably better suited to the P400e, especially if the miles are in the town/city..
The areas identified as weaknesses on the Ingenium petrol/gasoline unit (in other applications that have been fitted with the motor from 2016) can be boiled down to cooling, lubrication, and timing. We don't mention these in the video as these issues have barely any records by L405 owners, but can be found by looking at reports from Evoque, Velar, Jag XE owners. Many of these are not the PHEV version though.
The oil pump has recorded failures causing lubrication issues that can result in engine damage. however we must stress, due to the age of these engines the exact failure rate is difficult to pinpoint and many that were showing early symptoms would have been replaced under manufacturer warranty, whether the problem is recurring is too early to tell. Second the timing issue, this seems almost unfair to mention as a handful of failures have been rightfully shouted about by owners due to catastrophic damage, but again due to the age of the engine it isn't clear if a batch of motors were impacted and others are fine. We didn't find the failure recorded by L405 owners.
Lastly, cooling. You rightly pointed out this is a JLR Ingenium engine, however the development done prior to 2016 likely had Ford development help for cost reasons. All manufacturers do this where a similar goal is desired. In the video we don't mention this as it would be unfair and not based on empirical data which we try to avoid, but we are reminded of the Ford 2.0 ecoboost suffering cooling issues. The Ford block was redesigned in circa 2018/19 to change the channels that the coolant runs in, the previous design allowed hot spots to form and damage either cylinder 2 or 3. From memory there may have been a lawsuit in the USA about the design but don't quote us on that. It is sensible to assume the information on cooling and redesign was shared with JLR if the same cooling design was used, and since there are recorded coolant issues on the 2.0-litre Ingenium engines in some JLR cars this may be a fair assumption. We should stress that although we have actually seen the teardown of the 2.0 Ford eco boost and seen the different channels for cooling between old and new design, we haven't for a 2.0-litre Ingenium to say for sure the design is matching it. For a high regard to caution we'll assume they are. For this reason it may be safer to look at a 2019 model onwards, rather than the 2018 release year. A final note though is that to the best of our knowledge P400e owners are not reporting this but again, the engine is still so new and most are only just leaving warranty so the information on this is harder to be precise with. Finding a 2019 onward model may also mean some balance of manufacturer warranty that could be extended for a couple of years within a deal (if buying from a dealer).
As ever best of luck with your car search and we hope this info helps you and anyone else scrolling through the comments that are looking for a P400e 👍
Omg...how many possible issues
...
About on par with some of the other luxury cars we've covered 👍
Your vıdeos are very nıce and ınformatıve . ı quıte suprıse to see you have low subscribers..
Many thanks 👍 We’ll keep working to build our community and subscribers
One things for sure.
If you dont buy one that's broken, you can be sure it will broken after you buy it.
Off roading for Range Rover means its in the shop and off the road.
Good god, who would honestly go near these cars? Fine if you just like the look and are completely ignorant of all the potential issues, but even a cursory look at videos to do with the many problems of Range Rovers would influence most sensible people to steer well clear.
We try to point out as many known issues as possible so buyers can make the best decision. 😁
They are quite simply the best allround cars in the world. One caveat though, if you can afford to buy, but can't afford to run then please don't.
@@JamesWilliams1974 90% rr drivers never leave the roads.
Just get a car that doesn't suck
Love mine just waited until I could afford it and I made sure I had a couple good indy shop alternatives near by.
Never had any problems with mine, been 100% superb.
So basically speaking ! I need to be a millionaire to buy and maintain one ! 🤦🏼♂️
Hopefully our guide will help you avoid too many large bills 😁
Well… yeah. Why would you buy 150k + car if you’re not a millionaire??
Amen
I love them but wouldn't touch one with a barge pole
Landcruiser enough said 👌
If you are looking to buy a Land Cruiser we have a buyer's guide for the J150 model 👍
No massage feature in a landcruiser. Also… Toyota… yawn.
@@gusz4019 but works and reliable 👍
សាកមេីលទៅ
A beautiful car but so badly made.
What isn't wrong with em😂
ទាយចិត្តថាពេលព្រឹកយកមក
Don't even think about buying these piles of junk - great advice.
1/Buy a Ford Explorer instead. 2/Buy a Ford Explorer instead. 3/Buy a Ford Explorer instead
The worst car I have ever owned
And the attitude of the service departments was deplorable
Never again !!!
thanks for sharing your ownership experience, is there a particular service department you suggest others avoid? 👍
My service dept is awesome. I keep buying cars from that dealership because of them.
មិនមានច្រកចេញទេ
ចូលមិនរួចទេ
Dont...just dont.
Even if it isn't broken when you purchase it the time span between break downs is approximately the same as a lifespan of a fruit fly...
If we've missed anything or you had any issues with yours then let us know so others can see what to look for 👍
Thumbs down and bail for constant music and too much video editing.
Don’t
៩.៣០នាទីពេលព្រឹក
the best advice for buying a range rover is don't ! very poor and always costs a minimum of a grand to fix !
How is an RR “very poor”? With the right trim levels it rivals the Bentley and Rolls. Way above anything else in its price range.
@@gusz4019 er because they are very very
unreliable,just like all freelanders and discos, avoid
money pit on wheels
Broke company that doesn't even own its name.
There are certainly more and more car companies that are owned by other groups 👍
@@themilesdriven They are not being thrown from owner to another and announce £455 million loss by any reason.
Here is my buyers guide: don’t!