Without the quest I feel like Encumbered Pack Mule is a better include than First Day at School. You're still getting two minions in hand, but you don't have to pay mana to get them, and they're consistently solid, whereas FDaS minions are random.
Being blank with what is effectively +1/+2 from the worst case scenario of a 1/1 with irrelevant text or none at all. Not to mention the total cost of those mibions are 4 mana to play while First Day is 3. It's a good thing to consider, I reckon First Day at School still is better though.
@@TheMirksta Yeah I forgot to consider the taunt, don't think that's something you'd usually care for though unless if you're playing a real slow silver hand recruit deck with the new support for it and hand buff ontop
@@Nickolai20599 yeah but if you're playing the silver hand deck you play the quest. Therefor you run first day at school in it ad you need the 1 drops.
@@Noobie2k7 Right yeah, I suppose I just don't see a slow hand buff paladin working out. EDIT: Correction, I don't see a slow hand buff paladin working out that doesn't run the quest.
Soooo what we've learned from this video is, right now Buffadin is still weaksauce and not to bother making it. Thanks for always doing the science for us Trump!
@@HighLanderPonyYT Handbuff Paladin was a tier 1 deck in wild and it still is a very powerful deck to play on the Wild ladder. With magnetise, handbuff was nothing but unfair: every mechanic, with enough support, can reach greatness, that's my point.
Trump misplayed. He should have been much more aggressive with his plays on the final turns. Should have dumped out way more minions instead of just playing a couple big ones.
@@Begeru Except he doesn't know what cards the opponent has... you can't say it's a misplay based off of both sides. For all Trump knows Regis had board clears still.
I see the problem with Handbuff is still there. Never enough draw power or hand refills. Handbuff decks rend to fall apart one you start playing your buffed minions and then you just don't draw enough minions to be worth starting to Handbuff again. Like all of this decks good draw power cards are 6+ mana.
Prolly should run silence, too. Handbuff is just too fair. Any deck that has the gameplan of "I'm gonna play minions, they'll stay alive and I'll hit you with them" runs the risk of being too fair.
My hope was the Bannerman would give the deck that extra drop of fuel it needed, but it still seems to struggle. Playing handbuff constantly feels like if you just had one more minion in hand you'd be in a fantastic position. Maybe if you could run 4 Bannermen this would actually work.
I didn't watch the full video but if he had just gone full tempo the first game and not save his huge Samuro for eternity he'd def won the game.. I think trump wouldn't even do good with the unnerfed wild handbuffadin, he just likes his value too much and doesn't know when exactly tempo Vs value is needed in handbuff decks
It's because Paladin has lost its only good draw power spell and handbuff needs good draw power to be consistently handbuffing enough minions to be relevant.
Trump deserves all the respect for sure, being so goofy intentionally & posting loses without it bothering him a single bit, knowing we'll all enjoy it no matter what. Best streamer for sure.
Trump missed lethal at 9:15 Trade off the 1/1, use conviction so that the Murgle has 7 attack, trade murgle into 6/6, summon wrong from hand, cast HoA on it so that it gets Rush, trade wrynn into 6/5, going face for game
Tbh Druid quest is better than I thought I thought you had to reach 4 or higher attack, 5 or higher attack then 6 or higher attack but the fact you dont have to get everything in 1 turn makes it so much better
LOL. I watched RegisKillbins video first, so I knew the end of the game already before I began the video. I will say, It was definitely interesting watching the game from the your perspective after that trump
@@DavidsonLoops From Regis’ side, Regis was heavily pressured the whole time. He made a lot of difficult decisions, and, yea. He was saved by the quillboars
I still can't get over how the one part of the hunter quest trump didn't see was the stage where it makes your hero power 0 mana. Hence why he didn't realise how OP it's going to be
so it seems liek the warlock quest is better than trump thought, all you need to do is add in the "burn your own deck" package and not burn any of your payoff cards
@@TheUltimateShade667 technically true, but if you burn cards like Backfire you are completing the Quest way slower. Sure, you can inevitably tap all the way down, but god is that slow.
Honestly I think pure hand buff paladin isn't as good as either mixing it with Librams or mixing it with quest. Since those two packages give you something to do when you run out of steam
Man, this feels like the best deck he managed to go 0-X with. Really a shame because it still looks so fun, maybe enough for me to come back to the game
Ah yes, the most interesting type of deck building: >put in quest >put in all cards that support quest Regis effectively typed "do damage to your hero" in the search bar and added almost everything INCLUDING Flame Imp which I see absolutely zero reason to include.
@@amethonys2798 Lol I don't care about how much effort went into building the deck I'm saying it's more interesting to watch than divine shield go face
Trump misplayed vs Regis. He should have been much more aggressive with his plays on the final turns. Should have dumped out way more minions instead of just playing a couple big ones. He basically gave Regis control of the board back.
Geez, did that last opponent have any new cards except Varian? Hate to see people bring meta/already played decks when this is meant for trying new things out/
The only way new things influence the meta is by playing against it, though? Like sure it's kinda *boring*, but if your new deck doesn't beat anything that everyone is already playing, then what's the point?
@@Xkazmarx True, i agree with that from the standpoint of meta. I would think that people would want to get a feel of the new cards though. Instead of already using a deck that works and is known to work and maybe swapping 1 or 2 of the weakest cards out. I guess it's a necessary evil at the end of the day. We all have our fun in different ways, it just was kinda boring to see almost every card from libram paladin when there's new stuff to try. If i wanted to see that, i would of just waited for the set to go live XD.
Looks like the deck needs a few tweaks! Maybe card draw? You seem to empty your hand quickly. I agree the weapon is great value, but you need a bigger hand!
Trump mocking his opponent's bad decks only to get beaten by them is something I've been watching for like half a decade now and it'll never get old.
it's art really. The man swears he can craft a deck of his own 😎
Watching Trump making value decks, feigning overconfidence and then losing every game feeds my soul
How is this a value deck though?
@@TheAce12570 definitely an aggro/tempo deck considering it ran out of steam on turn 5.
well that first game was gold. Had to watch from both sides to get the full lore.
Feigning?
@@chaisemaurice8150 I agree wholeheartedly.
Watching this after knowing the outcome of the first game is hilarious
Trump has the arrogance of 10 men. as much as I love him, watching him lose is so damn entertaining.
Yes
@@4whomittolz846 well, he is an entertainer
The classic "lol that bad *looses to it*". Karma listens always
@@4whomittolz846 2021 and people still think he's being serious lmfaooo
Without the quest I feel like Encumbered Pack Mule is a better include than First Day at School. You're still getting two minions in hand, but you don't have to pay mana to get them, and they're consistently solid, whereas FDaS minions are random.
Being blank with what is effectively +1/+2 from the worst case scenario of a 1/1 with irrelevant text or none at all. Not to mention the total cost of those mibions are 4 mana to play while First Day is 3. It's a good thing to consider, I reckon First Day at School still is better though.
@@Nickolai20599 I think if you're aiming to be aggresive first day is better, Pack mule in a more defensive build where the taunt has more value.
@@TheMirksta Yeah I forgot to consider the taunt, don't think that's something you'd usually care for though unless if you're playing a real slow silver hand recruit deck with the new support for it and hand buff ontop
@@Nickolai20599 yeah but if you're playing the silver hand deck you play the quest. Therefor you run first day at school in it ad you need the 1 drops.
@@Noobie2k7 Right yeah, I suppose I just don't see a slow hand buff paladin working out.
EDIT: Correction, I don't see a slow hand buff paladin working out that doesn't run the quest.
The confidence to post back to back to back loses. Respect.
It's a Trump deckbuilding stream, of course there is back to back losses!
I see this is your first visit to Value Town. Enjoy your stay!
Granted, that Shaman’s opener was insane
I mean he doesn't have other content to upload, like some wins, you know.
@@bird3713 time for another several months of disgusting shaman decks
clips from opponents' streams is my absolute favorite aspect of these videos
Great editing
im pretty sure that shaman literally had the best possible opening for that deck
That's every Shaman you meet on ladder but never when you try the deck.
Soooo what we've learned from this video is, right now Buffadin is still weaksauce and not to bother making it.
Thanks for always doing the science for us Trump!
I think it was obvious. Handbuff will always suck because it's too fair. I wish they stopped trying to make it work. Same with attack druid.
@Jmt1000 Because that effort and time could be spent on stuff that wasn't proven to be a fail over and over. I thought that was clear enough.
@Jmt1000 They should, they couldn't. Smth smth cutting losses.
@Jmt1000 Yup.
@@HighLanderPonyYT Handbuff Paladin was a tier 1 deck in wild and it still is a very powerful deck to play on the Wild ladder. With magnetise, handbuff was nothing but unfair: every mechanic, with enough support, can reach greatness, that's my point.
That Regis comeback was nuts. Did not expect that deck to be decent.
Trump misplayed. He should have been much more aggressive with his plays on the final turns. Should have dumped out way more minions instead of just playing a couple big ones.
I watched this duel from regis's side first so seeing trump acting cocky was amusing XD
@@Begeru Except he doesn't know what cards the opponent has... you can't say it's a misplay based off of both sides. For all Trump knows Regis had board clears still.
I mean it's Warlock. Warlock is constantly getting great cards every expansion.
@@Noobie2k7 rogue, hunter, warrior and priest have way more consistancy then warlock
That Shaman turn 4 lethal was NUTTY
I see the problem with Handbuff is still there. Never enough draw power or hand refills. Handbuff decks rend to fall apart one you start playing your buffed minions and then you just don't draw enough minions to be worth starting to Handbuff again.
Like all of this decks good draw power cards are 6+ mana.
Yeah, but the VALUE feels so good when you buff your minions
Prolly should run silence, too.
Handbuff is just too fair. Any deck that has the gameplan of "I'm gonna play minions, they'll stay alive and I'll hit you with them" runs the risk of being too fair.
No divine favour anymore makes it pretty rough
My hope was the Bannerman would give the deck that extra drop of fuel it needed, but it still seems to struggle. Playing handbuff constantly feels like if you just had one more minion in hand you'd be in a fantastic position. Maybe if you could run 4 Bannermen this would actually work.
I didn't watch the full video but if he had just gone full tempo the first game and not save his huge Samuro for eternity he'd def won the game.. I think trump wouldn't even do good with the unnerfed wild handbuffadin, he just likes his value too much and doesn't know when exactly tempo Vs value is needed in handbuff decks
"Ohhhhhhh TwO DaMaGe." Famous last words lol
Never trashtalk Regis, he will always find a way.
Look at that terrible quest, regis. *immediately gets spanked by the wombo combo*
That was a really good game tho
Look at that terrible quest *hoo hoo hoo* 🤣
@@patt5085 the best kind of cringe
Good to know that after all these years handbuff paladin is still too slow
I knooooowwwww. It sucks I have REALLY wanted that deck to work for years now. It's such a fun archetype.
Have you seen wild handbuff paladin? I hear it is very good and it is a very agressive deck
For a while, Wild Handbuff Paladin was the best deck
It's because Paladin has lost its only good draw power spell and handbuff needs good draw power to be consistently handbuffing enough minions to be relevant.
@@kassandranna Handbuff mechs are still pretty good. Magnetic minions are a great synergy with handbuffs since you can buff your buffs.
What a rollercoaster of emotions that first game was
19:52 Trump laughs like a One Piece character.
I can even tell you which one. Catharina Devon.
@@bezretmet Except Trump ate the Value Value No Mi
More likely DanganRonpa character - the bear one, if I am correct. DESPAIR!
Fufufu
That Shaman match was brutal
That curve was stupid good.
I thought the same thing, were kinda in sync here...
trump's channel description should just be "overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer"
Or maybe it's merely a trick of the light
The Regis reactions are always perfectly edited. Their online friendship genuinely makes me more interested in Hearthstone
I love the overconfident trump lost lol its always the best
Theorycrafting videos are always so fun to watch.
14:20 never expected Trump saying “looks kinda SUS”
trump played AMOGUS on his channel few times back when it was hyped up
came here after watching regis video to see the inevitable trump trash talking followed by utter despair.. didnt get disappointed 😂
Trump deserves all the respect for sure, being so goofy intentionally & posting loses without it bothering him a single bit, knowing we'll all enjoy it no matter what. Best streamer for sure.
It was so much fun to watch Trump’s fight against Regis from Trump’s point of view. Loved the fight when I saw it from Regis’ point of view before!
Regis seems like a good dude.
That second game ending is brilliant! "Wait, I lost? How did I lose from that position?" I can't believe it either.
The second game was the only game trump won. ...
That libram paladin must be very fun at parties
I LOVE WHEN YOU MOCK THE OPPONENT THEN LOSE
Tambem acho muito engraçado Marcus
hes a fantastic player but when he builds his own decks this happens, very entertaining
waited so long for this vid
TY
Loved that first game - the underdog winning against evil Trump in the end. :D
Trump missed lethal at 9:15
Trade off the 1/1, use conviction so that the Murgle has 7 attack, trade murgle into 6/6, summon wrong from hand, cast HoA on it so that it gets Rush, trade wrynn into 6/5, going face for game
The rush is a battle cry, thus it has to have 4 attacks when played and can’t be buffed post play to achieve rush. Hence, that play wasn’t lethal
Planning to build this deck for the new expansion :)
Tbh Druid quest is better than I thought
I thought you had to reach 4 or higher attack, 5 or higher attack then 6 or higher attack but the fact you dont have to get everything in 1 turn makes it so much better
Yeah I thought the same.
Rtfc :p
Trump: “ I have this problem with not drawing the big stuff towards the end”.
Me: “ You and me both brother, for the past 8 years”.
Ahh the Trump classic of mock the opponents deck on the opening turns before losing horribly.
I love trumps arrogance almost as much as tsundere trump
this vid is pure gold. Imma sub lol
LOL. I watched RegisKillbins video first, so I knew the end of the game already before I began the video. I will say, It was definitely interesting watching the game from the your perspective after that trump
what did he seem like from regis's side
@@DavidsonLoops From Regis’ side, Regis was heavily pressured the whole time. He made a lot of difficult decisions, and, yea. He was saved by the quillboars
@@IcePhoenixMusician whos JE?
@@DavidsonLoops oops. Typo!
Somehow it didn’t register I was typing Regis
That first game was legendary
That hand buff minion is going to put wild handbuff charge paladin over the top
I still can't get over how the one part of the hunter quest trump didn't see was the stage where it makes your hero power 0 mana. Hence why he didn't realise how OP it's going to be
I want you all to know that day 1 I'm making odd quest hunter for wild and finally those secret mages in legend are going to fucking pay
@@Umicron_ dont worry, blizzard already thought of that. you're not going to face another secret mage until you swap decks
@@mehiskortel6435 Sounds like a win win
Sword of Truth Hunter is gonna be my first build.
I see no world where a Hunter deck with like 15+ spells is ever going to be better than just Face Hunter and running big Rhinos into the enemies face.
5:40 Varian also hand buffs if he draws Runethak? Awesome
Nah it’s because Trump has the weapon equipped, so when he attacked with Varian, it buffed his hand
that game against regis was so intense
That first game felt very satisfying with how he trash talked the opponent not being able to complete the quest and the quest being irrelevant
I wonder if that quest rogue was trying to roll for a specific hero hero power for his early game.
I thought you only appear to be the class
"The trash quest" - Banned in Wild then nerfed in Standard, lol
That warlock deck looks pretty fun
that first game was amazing LMAO
Trump learned the ol' saying "Talk shit, get hit"
so it seems liek the warlock quest is better than trump thought, all you need to do is add in the "burn your own deck" package and not burn any of your payoff cards
even if you do its not the end of the world. your win condition is unburnable.
@@TheUltimateShade667 technically true, but if you burn cards like Backfire you are completing the Quest way slower. Sure, you can inevitably tap all the way down, but god is that slow.
I loved How Trump got wrecked tô the "bad" quest
The classic handbuff problem. No hand. Problem.
This deck looks fun
Honestly I think pure hand buff paladin isn't as good as either mixing it with Librams or mixing it with quest. Since those two packages give you something to do when you run out of steam
Knowing Regis wins makes Trump's smack talk so much better
Turn 4 lethal. Sounds like this is gonna be a great expansion.......
Did you consider using lothraxion for this deck?
This fight is funnier when you watch it from Regis perspective first.
Man, this feels like the best deck he managed to go 0-X with. Really a shame because it still looks so fun, maybe enough for me to come back to the game
He did win the second game
@@alexdavies7367 oh right lol, the rest of the video deleted that game from my memory
I usually trashtalk Regis but that was a cool deck. The Hellfire was a spicy choice.
how many new cards did that last deck have?
1
At least 10, you can't play in the streamer prepatch gameplay unless your deck has 10 or more cards from the newest set in it.
Yrel has a skin now? I NEED IT
17:44 The real way to "hand buff".
Every time he says "cute" it comes out with less convection than the last.
i made a shitty version of this deck years ago with blood knight and a bunch of handbuff and divine shield minions lol
Hmmm. That Warrior looks kinda Sus.
If trump played more for tempo and not hero power value he would have won (9:27)
I love when he talks smack about a deck and then gets wrecked by it
pog theorycrafting value
Deck list?
This is one of those videos where I root against Trump because his opponents are playing way more interesting decks
Ah yes, the most interesting type of deck building:
>put in quest
>put in all cards that support quest
Regis effectively typed "do damage to your hero" in the search bar and added almost everything INCLUDING Flame Imp which I see absolutely zero reason to include.
@@amethonys2798 Lol I don't care about how much effort went into building the deck I'm saying it's more interesting to watch than divine shield go face
@@amethonys2798 1m 3/2 that completes a step 50% or can hit face for 3 after it's done has no reason to be in the deck? Th0nk
Argent Squire lol
A handbuff deck with no draw power, Genius!
*I'm feelin' this*
Alliance Bannerman looks like Trump.
FOR THE ALLIANCE!
The problem is in the mid-late game he's running out of minions in hand to buff.
Like the confidence tho.
Trump misplayed vs Regis. He should have been much more aggressive with his plays on the final turns. Should have dumped out way more minions instead of just playing a couple big ones. He basically gave Regis control of the board back.
Why not run the dude package? can get 5 divine shields on the board repeatedly
why does trump laugh like a villain on one piece
Geez, did that last opponent have any new cards except Varian? Hate to see people bring meta/already played decks when this is meant for trying new things out/
The only way new things influence the meta is by playing against it, though? Like sure it's kinda *boring*, but if your new deck doesn't beat anything that everyone is already playing, then what's the point?
@@Xkazmarx True, i agree with that from the standpoint of meta. I would think that people would want to get a feel of the new cards though. Instead of already using a deck that works and is known to work and maybe swapping 1 or 2 of the weakest cards out.
I guess it's a necessary evil at the end of the day. We all have our fun in different ways, it just was kinda boring to see almost every card from libram paladin when there's new stuff to try. If i wanted to see that, i would of just waited for the set to go live XD.
overconfidence leadsto weakness
_overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer_
@@WeeWeeJumbo Overconfidence is a slow and insidious meme.
Trump was talking all the good shit a second ago, then he got kicked in his chest by Warlock quest.
Looks like the deck needs a few tweaks! Maybe card draw? You seem to empty your hand quickly. I agree the weapon is great value, but you need a bigger hand!
*sad Divine Favor noises*
Huh aggro elemental shaman is a thing.
Needs a draw generator.
you could pass the deck code with your cane. Thanks
dude that deck had only removel and nothing else lmao
Only 8 leggys pog
oh trump u r awesome.....so funny
BEHOLD THE POWER!
Narrator voice: *one 0/3 later*
Trump vs Regis: NotLikeThis
When people say trump bad i dont think of donald xoxo
O ya look at that elemental shaman, Thank blizzard everyone, For such a long and exiting game.
Yeah everyone was sad pirate warrior was iced. So now that’s a thing
Notification value
Alright, I think it's high time I just come out and ask this.
Can someone please translate what "wand thief" says?
I think it's "Buy wand, get wand free!"
@@enderplaysvidjagames8542
Thanks
@@enderplaysvidjagames8542 Correct.
Trump being cocky and him losing the game ,name a more iconic duo
you boycott card revealing , why you should play HS? Is this an optional boycott?
the only real game vs actual meta deck was vs shaman at 22:00 . You died on turn 3.
ok and then the next game you got stomped by a tier 3 meta deck