Some additions: - Iran is concerned about Azerbaijan getting bigger considering there's a significant minority of Azeri's living in Iran that could eventually demand to be unified with Azerbaijan like Azerbaijan now claims Qarabag. - Armenia has received/bought weapons from other powers as well like India, France and Greece. It's not clear how much support they would be willing to offer as they all have their own interests in the region. - Azerbaijan could potentially count on the help of Israel as well considering their alliance with Azerbaijan and their interests in keeping Iran down. edit: ohh before I forget - Azerbaijan is a major trade link between China and Europe as further north through Russia and south through Iran is not possible due to sanctions. Azerbaijan is an alternative gas and oil provider for Europe. Azerbaijan and the Caspian Sea are also a vital trade link between Russia and Iran/India. A conflict could severely complicate that or make it impossible. - Ukraine might profit indirectly as Iran would no longer be able to provide Russia with (as much) support as it is currently doing.
@@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 As far as I know Israel had normal relations with Armenia up until the point Israel backed Azerbaijan in 2020. Israel and Azerbaijan always had good ties and Azerbaijan has bought and used Israeli weapons against Armenia. There's been rumors that Azerbaijan gave Israel permission to use their airfields in case they felt the need to bomb Iran at some point.
@@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500also of note is that Azerbaijan is (or at least used to be) Israel's largest oil supplier, which gave Israel an economic incentive to side with the Azeris, though with the Israeli discovery and development of their gas fields in recent years this reliance might have faded a little.
You forgot one important thing. One of the main reasons Armenia won the war in the 90's was thanks to the money (and also volunteers) sent back by the very rich Armenian diaspora around the world. But by now, Azerbaijan's oil wealth is greater than that which could be spared by wealthy Armenians abroad; plus the current generation is one more generation removed from their roots in Armenia, so they would probably help less than last time.
As a Balkan Turk in the situation of war I will help Azerbaijan. Also Turkey and Azerbaijan are both Turks. Like Turkestan Turks. One Nation Seven state.
also most terrifying things happened in 90's to azerbaijani people living in the region such as Hojali Massacre done by armenian army, but they covered up really well during that time thanks to wealthy armenian diaspora as you mentioned
@@batu2345 what kind of mental jiu jitsu are you azeris doing in your head? You don't think the aliyev family is lying to you so your attention is on a made up enemy so you don't see the true crimes of your government who steals from its own people?
Unfortunately, the West didn't really care about Armenia that much, so they had no choice than to rely on Russia and, to a minor degree, Iran. In fact, geopolitically that would be the natural axis for Armenia to be in, if the population where not pro-democracy.
@@filipe5722 The problem with Armenia is that Turkey supports its rival, Azerbaidjan, and has complicated relations. Because of this, it's hard for Western countries to give a real military support to Armenia as maintaining Turkey in NATO is more valuable than having Armenia. As a French citizen, I wish Armenia was supported, but I would understand if the support doesn't go very far. Turkey is too important to take the risk of souring relations just to help a 3 millions inhabitants country.
@@filipe5722 This guy clearly got his facts mixed up. Armenia started leaning towards the West AFTER CSTO outright ignored their obligation to help its member nations in times of conflict. Just like the Warsaw Pact that preceded it, CSTO seemed better suited to putting down civilian protesters than armed soldiers it seems.
@@guillaumeroussel8633 Yup, that's exactly it. Armenia sits in the crossroads between two opposing axes: Turkey-Azerbaijan and Russia-(Georgia)-Iran. The first one is hostile towards Armenia, so they had no other choice than to rely on the second one. The only hope now is that Russian influence over the Black Sea retreats with a Ukrainian victory and the EU/NATO take more interest in the Caucasus, allowing Armenia to seek a guarantor. Still, that will likely need Georgia cooperation, so it's still a big gamble for Armenia.
@@filipe5722 There are a lot of Armenians in the US. But, Armenia sided with Russia-Iran. Not great geopolitics for western countries. Azerbaijan is allies with Turkey and to a degree with the West. But also, getting close to Russia. US is officially neutral.
This is the craziest conflict i have ever seen....Now US, France, India and Iran together are supporting Armenia...Israel ,Turkey and Pakistan supporting Azerbaijan...
it's not effective if you don't have borders with country that you invading or supporting. in afghanistan America lost because afghanistan have borders with china and Russia.
@@whQQpsYou are "slightly" wrong, Russia has no borders with Afghanistan (they are only 3370 kilometers apart). And the lack of borders did not prevent them from defending South Korea from the communists.
real face how israel friend going to help azerbaijan or armenia. and enemy iran become agreement with Azerbaijan. western countries should pick their side iran or israel and US or china. this wars should big lesson to propaganda media... 18th and 19th sep Armenia and US joint military drill same date AZ start military operation. well done, US beter keep quit for some times will be go for armenia, france almost losing his power around the world.
I worked in Armenia for a short time. There's a brandy factory in Yerevan called Ararat, where Stalin and Churchill used to order brandy. They have a huge barrel there called the Peace Barrel, signed by politicians from both sides. It was made in 2001 and will only be opened when a peaceful settlement is agreed over Nagorno-Karabakh.
@@tywinlannister it literally is Armenian. Before Turkic people migrated to Anatolia, Armenians were the sole guardians of Ararat for thousands of years. Colonizers don't get to rewrite history just because they removed indigenous people from their homes and lands.
There’s no such thing as “indigenous people” lmao. Humans have been fighting each other over land for THOUSANDS OF YEARS!!!!!!! People have been moving around for THOUSANDS OF YEARS. Ararat has been Turkish for 1000 years since the SELJUKS. We won it by WAR. That’s how it was back then and now. Stop telling yourself lies. Do you think there were people before “Armenians” in that lands? Yes their probably were just as their were in EVERY OTHER PIECE OF LAND GENIUS. Like wow have you never read a history book? Or a Geographic book? Or a scientific book? Any book? Wow cannot believe delusion here.
I am proud to say that due to all these TLDR videos on this conflict, I now know which country is Armenia and which Azerbaijan. Use to get them mixed up constantly
Don't you love how Armenia invaded Azerbeijan 30 years ago and now Azerbeijan is more powerful they are taking their territories back. Hopefully something similar will happen in Ukraine
@@Rikimkigsckactually Armenia didn't start the war in the 1990s or 2020. Both were started by Azerbaijan. There is something to say that Artsakh declaring their independence from the USSR and Soviet Azerbaijan was the catalyst, it was done legally and without force.
@@airinmaz729cap, russia even came and invade baku in 1990s because they supported armenia and thousands of azerbaijanis were moved away from their homes in Karabakh 100s of them froze to death couldnt even reach Baku we call it Khojaly genocide there are images on the internet
Azerbaijan has the upper hand by far but don't want to stir too much trouble to avoid coming under sanction of any kind cause they rely massively on trading with the West. They'll probably try to slowly but surely get the minimum their want (the enclave and a passage on the south of Armenia) and stop at that.
Azerbaijan has likely been carefully weighing its options. Wars can take a while so even if Russia couldn't intervene right now, the situation could change in the future. Azerbaijan probably wanted to make sure that Russia was going to be tied up in Ukraine for a while. Especially since Russia would probably like to intervene in an Azeri-Armenian conflict. Russia's reputation as a major world power has taken a hit since the botched and now stagnant invasion of Ukraine. Being able to protect Armenia would allow Russia to regain a small amount of its credit as a military power.
Armenia is the first Christian country, Indo-European nation, natives of Armenian Highland. Modern Turkey is used to be Kingdom of Armenia and Greece in antient times. Nowdays Armenia is a small, democratic country with European values. Azerbaijan is a Muslim country and they are ethnic Turks whose ancestors invaded Armenian Highland, Anatolia and Caucasus in 11 century. Azerbaijan is one of the wors dictatorships in the world where vice president is president's wife and Aliyev inherited the "trone" from his father and rules the country over 25 years. Exactly a year ago Azerbaijan invaded Republic of Armenia, after two years of occupying Artsakh (Nagorno Karabakh). Azerbaijan claims all of Armenia is "historic Azerbaijan" and has already invaded Republic of Armenia after occupying Artsakh (Nagorno Karabakh). "On September 14 2022, a gruesome video began circulating on social media. The video showed a naked woman - Anush Apetyan, a mother of three - whose legs and fingers had been chopped off and her eyes gouged out. One of her fingers was stuck in her mouth and a stone was placed in one of her empty eye sockets. The perpetrators of this egregious crime against humanity laughed and pointed the camera at her exposed genitalia. They also made sure to show dozens of other corpses, joyfully trampling over them, laughing and cheering each other on as they went. This video was not posted by ISIS. It was not posted by al-Qaeda, Hezbollah or the Taliban - all internationally recognized terrorist organizations. Instead, it was filmed and publicized by the official representatives of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces. It was initially posted on an Azeri-run Telegram page called “Khacherubka,” which translates from Russian, in which “khach” is a racist slur used to refer to Armenians, to “Armenian chopping board.” It quickly spread through Azerbaijani social media, gathering mass applause from tens of thousands of Azeris." Khach means Cross in Armenian. During the invasion by Azerbaijan of the Armenian lands between September 13 and 14, an Armenian soldier named Anush Apetyan was captured alive by Azerbaijani forces alongside more than 10 Armenian soldiers captured alive, upon the Armenian Ministry of Defense.[3] www.jpost.com/opinion/article-719504 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Anush_Apetyan
How do you think it is to live with these people (turkey and dictatorship azerbayjan) as your neighbors? I mean just look at the t_urks history it's filled with war and bloodshed. It should give you a clue.
Armenian really got trouble ! Russian now not good - America and EU please help + Iran and Turkey involved . Really BS Can be very bad future for Armenian.🙏😇☺️
I'm of the mind that wwiii isnt going to be one side versus another and more a domino fall of more groups taking advantage of chaos to engage in millitary adventures which leads to more chaos which leads to...you get the idea
I mean the sides has pretty much been formed already, it is pretty much all the Nato countries, Vs. All of the Anti Nato countries, lead by the BRICS countries. These people DESPISE Nato and the thing is.... I don't even blame them for a second. Nato and the US really had their nose in so many things that don't concern them and made everything worse all the time. The only President in the last 30 years that DIDN'T start some new stupid war was Donald Trump. Obama was just like.... Lets bomb Yemen... FOR PEACE! ....... I'm sorry what? Why? And then removing leaders, creating power vacuums, that allowed fundamentalists to rise up who were FAR worse than the previous leaders and who HATES the west with a passion. And again for good reason... We bloody bombed their countries and still claim we are the good guys! Most of the world HATES us, and it makes total sense why. In spite of that the leaders of the West is utterly blind to it. "Oh they love us over there, they will totally respect us and our culture." ...... Why would they ever respect us or our culture? We clearly don't respect theirs as we are trying to force our values on them and bomb countries... For peace....
Your statement is critically incorrect - " Azerbaijan always had an upper hand". Karabag was under armenian accusation for nearly 20 years and Armenia had an upper hand. Do your homework and make your statement right!
This situation kind of reminds me of the Chaco War between Bolivia and Paraguay. 2 post-imperial countries that had a border dispute and ended up fighting over the land :/
YEAH THIS VIDEO DOESN'T TELL YOU THE TRUTH EITHER RUSSIANS STILL IN LACHIN CORRIDOR AND CSTO DOESN'T ACTIVATE IN DISPUTE LAND ONLY INTERNATIONAL RECOGNIZED BORDERS
@@mrboxheadd748Azerbaijan has also attacked the sovreign territory of the Republic of ARMENIA as well, and Putin and the CSTO have just silently watched it happen. This is a new GENOCIDE being executed on the Armenian people, after the one they are trying to say never happened in the late 1800s and 1915.
@@PhillMac RUSSIANS DID SEND FACT FINDING MISSION TO SEE WHO FIRED FIRST ARMENIA OR AZERBAIJAN I GUESS THEY FOUND ARMENIA AT FAULT SHOOTING INTO AZERBAIJAN IN ORDER FOR THEM TO RETURN FIRE AND SO ARMENIAN CAN GET CSTO ACTIVATED I BELIEVE IT BECAUSE AZERBAIJAN STILL HAS TO TAKE THE REST OF NAGORNO-KARABAKH SO WHY START A WAR WITH CSTO NOW AND LOSE EVERYTHING AZERBAIJAN IS FULLY AWARE OF THE CSTO TREATY AND DOESN'T HELP WHEN ARMENIAN PM IS SOLELY BLAMING RUSSIA FOR FAILURES WHEN HE(PASHINYAN) IS SOLELY TO BLAME
What do you expect from Western people? Are they going to be equal and fair to easterns and Muslims instead of the victims of genocide and completely innocent Armenians who did nothing wrong in Azerbaijan and (historically) Turkey? Nah.
Hypocrisy of west knows no limit , he keeps using word "invasion" while Azerbaijan literally trying to get back UN RECOGNIZED lands of herself. Since when defending yourself is invasion ? then why west doesn't call Ukraine trying to get back its UN RECOGNIZED lands as invasion. They also trying to portray Azerbaijan as evil and associate them with Russia , Russia uses Z invades poor neighbour well look Azerbaijan does the same uses A invades poor neighbour. Western propoganda is cunning and sneaky thats why most of the peoples buys it. For example when you ask a Russian " what do you think about your TV doing propoganda" he might still support it but he recognizes that it's a propoganda but when you ask to the EU or US their peoples they are like " what propoganda ?" lol thats exactly it :) .
@@AYTVOR No, in Armenia 15.000 Azerbaijanis lived and in Baku and Sumgayit, 800.000 Armenians lived, but Azeris killed them, All know the Genocide of Sumgayit.
@@AYTVOR True, all should be told, Armenia occupied more than Karabagh and caused massive amount of azeri refugees. Also, Azeris refused to give independance to Karabagh despite the fact that the enclave's parliament voted in favor of uniting with Armenia in 1988. Also, Azeris started to make pogroms (massacres) against armenians as soon as 1989 (then massacres against Azeris followed during the subsequent war...). it's quite different, Armenia and inhabitant of Karabagh never recognized Nagorno-Karabakh as an Azeri land (since 1990 and pogroms against armenians btw, same period where azerbaidjan got its independance), and indeed it never was (it's populated by a majority of armenians for thousands of years). The ones destroying armenian heritage and ancient buildings are turks and azeris, not the opposite, especially in Nakhchivan, but there is no armenian remaining in Nakhchivan. On February 20, 1988, the enclave's parliament voted in favor of uniting with Armenia. The demand to unify with Armenia, which began anew in 1988, began in a relatively peaceful manner. Azerbaidjan didn't even exist in 1988 lmao the enclave's parliament voted in favor of uniting with Armenia
I'll explain how things are now. Azerbaijan is actively restoring destroyed houses and historical monuments, as well as building new buildings. From time to time, Azerbaijan returns the refugees (Azerbaijanis) of the 90s back to their homes. The state also offers citizens of Armenian origin to return back to Karabakh, take Azerbaijani citizenship and live peacefully. But it is not profitable for Armenia, because now Armenia has a chance to somehow increase its population.
Eh... really? :D I don't care about Azeris or Armenians and their strungle, but I can smell shit in your post. Take your honey moon story with ya and sell it to someone without a brain kiddo.
Last part is completely wrong, Armenians fled Karabakh for the same reasons Azerbaijanis did in the 90's. Because most Armenians do not want to live in a state that actively hates them.
It's also worth noting that Azerbaijan is an increasingly important country to the EU since Azerbaijan has started supplying gas to the EU, replacing some of the gas cut-off from Russia. If Azerbaijan did invade Armenia, any European response would have to consider the Azerbaijani reaction too.
@Intreoo, The amount of gas Azerbaijan sends the EU is quite small. It accounts for a very small percentage of what Europe imports. It isn't nearly enough of a figure to have any effect on EU foreign policy. The reason EU won't respond isn't the gas, they won't respond because they can't respond? Aside from a condemnation what exactly can they do? They don't have the military capability to get there let alone do something about it. I don't think the Azeris give a rat's arse what Europe thinks. I don't think the Armenians are stupid enough to believe Europe will change the outcome of anything for them.
Really, so you guys are totally fine to warm your houses with our Armenian blood?? Armenia is the first Christian country, Indo-European nation, natives of Armenian Highland. Modern Turkey is used to be Kingdom of Armenia and Greece in antient times. Nowdays Armenia is a small, democratic country with European values. Azerbaijan is a Muslim country and they are ethnic Turks whose ancestors invaded Armenian Highland, Anatolia and Caucasus in 11 century. Azerbaijan is one of the wors dictatorships in the world where vice president is president's wife and Aliyev inherited the "trone" from his father and rules the country over 25 years. Exactly a year ago Azerbaijan invaded Republic of Armenia, after two years of occupying Artsakh (Nagorno Karabakh). Azerbaijan claims all of Armenia is "historic Azerbaijan" and has already invaded Republic of Armenia after occupying Artsakh (Nagorno Karabakh). "On September 14 2022, a gruesome video began circulating on social media. The video showed a naked woman - Anush Apetyan, a mother of three - whose legs and fingers had been chopped off and her eyes gouged out. One of her fingers was stuck in her mouth and a stone was placed in one of her empty eye sockets. The perpetrators of this egregious crime against humanity laughed and pointed the camera at her exposed genitalia. They also made sure to show dozens of other corpses, joyfully trampling over them, laughing and cheering each other on as they went. This video was not posted by ISIS. It was not posted by al-Qaeda, Hezbollah or the Taliban - all internationally recognized terrorist organizations. Instead, it was filmed and publicized by the official representatives of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces. It was initially posted on an Azeri-run Telegram page called “Khacherubka,” which translates from Russian, in which “khach” is a racist slur used to refer to Armenians, to “Armenian chopping board.” It quickly spread through Azerbaijani social media, gathering mass applause from tens of thousands of Azeris." Khach means Cross in Armenian. During the invasion by Azerbaijan of the Armenian lands between September 13 and 14, an Armenian soldier named Anush Apetyan was captured alive by Azerbaijani forces alongside more than 10 Armenian soldiers captured alive, upon the Armenian Ministry of Defense.[3] www.jpost.com/opinion/article-719504 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Anush_Apetyan
@@BeautySavesWorld You do realize that no one cares about that right? Ukraine is not getting support because someone cares about people, but because the American elite has a lot to lose if the Ukraine were to fall.
@@BeautySavesWorld I don't know where you got this information; perhaps from Armenian schoolbooks where they teach you about history. From this information, one might infer that Armenia is older than Greece. That's an interesting perspective. Let me provide some enlightenment on the Nagorno-Karabakh (Artsakh) issue. If Nagorno Karabakh has been a disputable area, why did this happen: 'The Armenian-occupied territories surrounding Nagorno-Karabakh were areas of Azerbaijan, situated outside the former Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast (NKAO), which were occupied by the ethnic Armenian military forces of the breakaway Republic of Artsakh (or the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic) with military support from Armenia, from the end of the First Nagorno-Karabakh War (1988-1994) to 2020'? I agree; I have seen this photo. But I actively follow Armenian Telegram channels where I have seen the same things, more brutal or less. It doesn't matter; it happens in every war. So at least our soldiers killed someone who was armed. But in the first Nagorno-Karabakh War, you killed children, pregnant women, old people. Did you forget about The Khojaly massacre. (The Khojaly massacre was the mass killing of Azerbaijani civilians by Armenian forces and the 366th CIS regiment in the town of Khojaly on 26 February 1992. The event became the largest single massacre throughout the entire Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. Khojaly was an Azerbaijani-populated town of some 6,300 people in the Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast of Azerbaijan SSR, also housing the region's only airport in 1992. The town was subject to daily shelling and total blockade by Armenian forces during the First Nagorno-Karabakh War. Without a supply of electricity, gas, or water, it was defended by the local forces consisting of about 160 lightly armed men. The Armenian forces, along with some troops of the 366th CIS regiment, launched an offensive in early 1992, forcing almost the entire Azerbaijani population of the enclave to flee and committing 'unconscionable acts of violence against civilians' as they fled.) It's important to note that Karabakh is recognized by all countries as a part of Azerbaijan, not Armenia and no one recognized latest president elections in 'Artsakh'. Here is the references. All things that I have mentioned is true facts and I only use trustable sources not local history books. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian-occupied_territories_surrounding_Nagorno-Karabakh en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khojaly_massacre
I also think it’s interesting to note that it was actually a war in 2014 but Russia intervened very quickly… in 2020 they were much slower even drawing international outcry to step in and this was well before their invasion of Ukraine. I’m sure part of it was Geopolitics but in 2018 Armenia also elected a new leader who was a bit more western oriented/less of the Russian sphere. I always found it interesting the difference in Russian response after that it always made me wonder if Putin was perhaps much less willing to fulfill his obligation when the leader was not as friendly…. But yeah I’m deeply concerned for Armenia, they just want to be left alone and live and this century old land dispute (that the Soviet Union could’ve resolved and never did) is basically a ticking time bomb. It may not be tomorrow but I don’t see how full invasion isn’t coming.
I was actually impressed with how they managed things in 2020, considering that they were kind of late, and they even got their helicopter taken down. They ended up involving Turkey just a little bit, but they were still the main broker. But whatever Azerbaijan decides to do now, Armenia will be at their mercy. Russia won't be able to do a thing about it.
Of course a westerner christian is supporting Armenia and seeing them as the oppressed here. "But yeah I’m deeply concerned for Armenia, they just want to be left alone" if they want to be left alone they had so many opportunities to make peace, to un-occupy Azerbaijani territory, but they don't and they don't want to cease their invasion in Azerbaijan without force. So Azerbaijan is the bad guy for trying to get their lands back from Armenian invaders? Oh poor you, you must be so concerned about the poor old invaders. The reason their invasion was successful was because they had Russia behind their back. Now Turkey is behind Azerbaijan, and Armenia won't be able to terrorize them any longer. Justice will be served, hot or cold. That is Azerbaijan's choice now.
It sounds crazy, but the only sensible way for Armenia to "be left alone" in this geography is to have a deal with turks, which armenians completely refuse.
No matter what Russia does it is always the bad guy! Russia did fantastic in 2020, it did intervene to make the two sit down and talk peace, it kinda forced them to stop the war, it did also warn that it will intervene if either countries tries to invade the other, karabakh is a different story as both countries have legit reasons to claim it at theirs, those who have made the war possible are western and Nato countries, Armenia's government was backed by the west since the revolution of 2014, and Azerbaijan was fully supported by the strongest nato countries in the region, Turkey and Israel. But smh Russia is to blame, when they were the ones to stop the war TWICE, and those who have fed the war are now blaming it all on Russia!!! The only thing that stopped the lunatics from involving their citizens into a full scale bloody war was the Russian influence, the west saw that Russia is pretty much occupied now and they started to put gas on the fire. Russia isn't always the bad guy, it has been the good guy many times in history, the west isn't always right and have caused many wars and disasters in countless countries. Stop seeing everything as black or white.
5:47 It's not an upside down A; It's a crossed out V. The Azeris are also using a crossed out Z as thier military symbol. They are basically using the Russian symbols.
@@bugrasevinc9696 Not true. Russia has continued to use this conflict as a way to keep Armenia weak and dependent while supplying armaments to Azerbaijan. On paper they say they are Armenia's ally, in reality they are not.
@@bugrasevinc9696 Oh yea, Putin is also more interested in Azerbaijan since they both are dictatorships. Armenia also used to have one, but it was overthrown in 2018 during the Vevlet Revolution. Another objective Putin has is using the conflict as a way to destabilize the parliamentary republic established in 2018 and allow the previous regime to re-establish its control.
@@bugrasevinc9696 I believe the relationship between Russia and Azerbaijan is greatly misunderstood in the West. Russia might have a great relationship with Armenia but that doesn't mean they don't also have one with Azerbaijan. Russia and Azerbaijan are quite close. Maybe not as close as Azerbaijan and Turkey but close enough. A significant number of ethnic Russians live in Azerbaijan and a significant number of ethnic Azeris live in Russia. Do you really believe Azerbaijan would have welcomed the presence of Russian peacekeepers if they really believed that Russia supported Armenia in the war. Come on! The 3 countries are ex-Soviet States and they have a complex past and as such a complex relationship. Russia intervened diplomatically in the last conflict to prevent unnecessary bloodshed and to help develop a path to peace, which they did. Unfortunately, Armenia is currently refusing to honor the tri-lateral agreement they signed together with Russia and Azerbaijan. According to the agreement, Armenia should relinquish most of Nagorno-Karabakh to Azerbaijan.
This is misleading. when Armenia first took the region. they didn't stop at the parts that were predominantly Armenian, they also took all the surrounding Azeri parts and they forced out Azeris from the area. Roughly 700 thousand Azeri's were kicked out of their homes if I recall. Taking the territory back was also about returning people to their homes.
@@Dutch_Engineer_Piff_Dahnk no ome attacked to them. Nagorno-Karabakh fake region was created by ussr, in 1991 we removed it because we never wanted to do it. Ussr gave it to armenians.
@@Dutch_Engineer_Piff_Dahnk nagorno karabakh autonomy region was created by ussr. This is why they seperated from Azerbaijan in 1991 with opportunity of soviet's autonomy. It was Azerbaijani land and was recognized as de-facto in Paris peace conference in 11/01/1920
Armenia didn't send "arms" to Ukraine. They sent humanitarian aid to Ukraine a few days ago. Armenia itself needs arms to defend itself against azerbaijan and turkey.
If Armenia wants to defend itself against us Turks, it must correct the stupid laws in its constitution that claim rights on the lands of the Republic of Turkey and the Republic of Azerbaijan and say that they will establish a great Armenia, otherwise it will take 3 days for the Republic of Turkey and the Republic of Azerbaijan to occupy the entire territory of Armenia
What a way to lie 🤔 This guy telling not less than 70% LIES 🤥 TLDR avoided to tell you that #Karabakh is internationally recognized integral part of #Azerbaijan
Dont worry as a turk(🇹🇷) i know my people(🇦🇿) They would only take karabağ and a bit land from armenia not a big land only ekvator side of armenia and it would only be for a few meters long (so azerbajian can have a connection with its land that in turkiyes side) but i know turks and azerbajian wont attack armanias main cities or that type places because it only gonna bring blood and chaos in order make that places safe for azerbajian to controp or own they need to do genocide (which is like biggest crime for turks and if they do genocide even azeri turks or turkiye woulndt support azerbajian so they woulndt do or dare to do genocide) So as long as armenia doesnt attack azerbajian armenians are safe😊
@@Minposu123 You know them ? You know of the genocides done by your ancestors then ? Armenian genocide, Assyrian genocide, Pontic greeks genocide ? Also, how is the situation in Cyprus ?
@@spectre8_fulcrum Armenia literally took land from Azerbaijan which is Internationally recognised. So Armenia is 100% fault in here. While Russia has only one condition. Don't have any enemy military alliance in the neighbouring country which i think fair for the small, weak countries. Sure they are wrong but they didn’t initiated the conflict.
ethnic armenians live there, and the people living there wanted to be a part of armenia, not azer. bloodthirsty azer were the one who started killing@@TruthSeeker8834
It never was Azerbaijan….It has been Armenian lands for thousands of years until Turkic people from Central Asia migrated west to the Caucasus, Anatolia, and the Middle East. Hence why Turkey exists in Anatolia and why Azerbaijan exists in the caucasus today. Most of the South Caucasus historically belongs to Armenia
Why all csto countries recognise it as azeri territory... they've all pleaded with Armenia to grant them the southern corridor even that they turned down..
Kosovo still has serbians in it but honestly, we are talking about AR en AZ Go fight Albanians somewhere else because I can't be bothered@@BluEclipse94
@@BluEclipse94 Kosovo tried to give Serbia its serbian majority area for the albanian majority area in serbia but serbia refused. Also my original point still stands, Armenia is the agressor
@@SwimmingClass1922 INCORRECT. Like the video said, NK held a referendum (peaceful and democratic, as per observers from the time, unlike DoNbAs). One year later, Azerbaijan attacked Nagorno-Karabakh. Armenians have never once in this conflicted initiated violence. It's laughable how much trolling is going on.
Look: Armenia not living any other Nationalities. On the middle of Turkish population lands but no Azeri or turk living there . Not only Turks Azeris also no other nationalities Why?
There are a small amount of Kurds, Yezidis, and Assyrians in Armenia. Also what do you mean by "Turkish population lands" when Turkey isn't even Turkish land. If you look at it by single ethnic groups, Greeks were a majority or plurality in Istanbul, Izmir, Trabzon and all of Eastern Thrace until 1915. Armenians were a majority of plurality in most of Eastern Anatolia except the coast around Trabzon which again was predominantly Greek. Baku wasn't even majority Azerbaijani until after 1920. There were 2.5 million Greeks and 1.8 million Armenians in Turkey now combined there's less than 100k you tell me why. You can also tell me why the percentage of every minority group in Azerbaijan from the lezgins to Georgians, to talyish, to the Armenians has continuously dropped for 100 years? You know since Azerbaijan is SOOOO accepting of other cultures.
A few corrections and food for thought: 1. Armenia captured Nagorno-Karabakh and 7 surrounding towns and kept it for 30 years; no one cared. 2. Azerbaijan did not INVADE anyone, since it was operating to regain its own internationally recognized territory, which was illegally kept under occupation for 30 years. 3. All of the Azerbaijani population of Nagorno-Karabakh, its surrounding regions, and all of Armenia were ethnically cleansed. Hence the "referendum" you're talking about in your video is seriously under question. With the same logic, Azerbaijanis of Zangazur (now Syunik in Armenian), who were forcefully cleansed from the region, could hold a "referendum" and claim independence the same way. 4. The Western world has never approached the issue with objectivity due to diaspora influence on local politics (such as France and the U.S.A.) as well as "Christian brotherhood" factors. You can easily see the one-sided statements from them all the time, which are somehow always skipped by the "internet storytellers". 5. Armenians of Armenia are pretty much hostages of the external influence of the bigger players, as well as their diaspora, which is a huge political and financial machine in itself, that don't let the countries settle their differences and live in peace after all. These people have lived side by side for literally at least 1,000 years and will be neighbors for the foreseeable future. Think about it, without conflict, Russia has no say in the region, Iran cannot be the biggest transit route for Armenia, France cannot influence Armenia as much, the U.S.A. (especially California congressmen) cannot exploit voters, and the Armenian diaspora pretty much loses its reason to exist.
This is even more tragic considering what a vast empire Armenia used to be at some points in history. Controlling all of Syria, parts of Turkey, Iudea (Israel), Georgia, Azerbaijan and more.
So Armenia hosts joint military exercises with NATO, sends help to Ukraine and in the same time is hoping that Russia will come to their aid? A bit of cognitive dissonance, so to say.
you got the last part wrong, armenia isn't hoping for russias help at all, Russia has backstabbed us and never helped us, they sold weapons to azeris and they are pretty much on azeris side (because they're with turkey now and turkey is basically brother of azeri), Armenia is fully trying to lean on to the west now but it is hard to do it instantly or we will become another ukraine and this time russia will really mess us up...
Azerbaijan has every right to retake their internationally recognised territory in Nagorno-Karabakh from the illegal occupiers. However, I would not support direct military action into mainland Armenia.
No one would. Turkey made their military equipment sales on that condition and that's why csto is not obligated to help because Azerbaijan hasn't attacked any Armenian territory
Hi. First of all if UN recognizes a land to another country,it doesnt mean it is part of the country. Because if it were to be a part of azerbaijan,the population would be filled by azeris and not Armenians. So when the land was given to azerbaijan, Armenians got furious and retaliated and got the land back by force.
@@AramBasmadjian-wz1wjand now they're gonna lose it by force. Best thing is to ensure human rights are observed in the area and accept that Armenia lacks the power to keep the land...
The title feels like its misleading. According to international law, the region of Karabakh is a part of Azerbaijan. As of right now, all of Azerbaijan's military operations are taking place inside Azerbaijan. Armenia is not being invaded. Armenian troops *inside* Azerbaijan are being attacked. These are facts.
Lemme get my two cents on the current situation: I think that Nagorno Karabak IS apart of Azerbaijan; It's recognized as such from most countries. HOWEVER, I do NOT support Azerbaijan preparing for an invasion of Armenia. Ever since Azerbaijan took back most of Nagorno Karabak in 2020, Aliyev (Azerbaijani Leader) has shown his true Colors, and has said multiple times that most/all of Armenia should belong to Azerbaijan and has said that "Armenia as a nation has never existed". Their proof for this is that in the past 500 years ago a Persian Muslim state existed where Modern day Armenia and Azerbaijan is. That's all the proof that they have. Azerbaijan has been constantly attacking Armenia since 2020 in the south area of Armenia, and ever since they gained independence from the Soviets Azerbaijan has been destroying countless Armenian gravesites, churches, et cetera, and this has increased alot since Aliyev took power. Aliyev may SAY that "The Armenians are fine in our state, it's just the Armenian government brainwashing them to be against Azerbaijan" but in reality He wants a greater Azerbaijan (Most of Armenia + Iranian Azerbaijan) that is only inhabited with Azerbaijanis, where the Armenians are discriminated against and (possibly) displaced. Right now, countless schools in Azerbaijan teach that Armenians are "savages" and "hypocrites" which obviously is well... Untrue. I really don't wanna call Azerbaijan Fascist, but it's scarily close. Especially with Alyiev's hatred of Ethnic Minorities, mythicizing a "greater" azerbaijani past, them playing both the victim and the agressor, among other minor things. Like Legit, the ONLY reasons why the west is supporting Azerbaijan is because of Russia's invasion of Ukraine causing the West to beg for Azerbaijani Gas, and also because of Turkey being in NATO. Sorry for my rant, It's just worrying seeing all of these "Azerbaijan is finally connecting up with its fellow turks" nonsense
IIRC Armenia invaded due to Azerbaijan smacking pro Armenian protests in their area with Riot control & other fun and fucked up things. While it's technically fucked up to invade & annex another nation's territory... ...Yeah Azerbaijan treats minorities like shit. Got that from Papi USSR I guess.
The Ukraine begged the EU to keep buying Russian gas, because the transit fees were an important source of income for the Ukraine. (They also used to siphon off some of that gas to sell at market value to Bulgaria, with Russia compensating for the difference.) So now the EU keeps buying Russian gas, but from Azerbaijan, at higher cost, but with the Ukraine not getting any transit fees. All to support the Ukraine in the war against Russia, of course.
I mean, sort of, but basically everything before 1991 can be summed up with: Armenians and Azeris are mixed together in the region and they hate each other. Ethnic groups that hate each other being geographically co-mingled is common enough that Westerners don't really care whose ancestors invaded who, or who launched a crusade/jihad against the other several hundred years ago. We just chalk that up to "they have been killing each other for a long time" and start looking for when the paperwork (i.e. treaties, imperial provincial law, declarations of independence, etc.) starts.
Appreciate the efforts to explain the situation in a short video, but it's really oversimplified. I understand that it's quite hard to give info about a multi-layered, hundred years old conflict happening in a very diverse part of the world, however, it would be great to say or note this by "this isn't and/or may not be the whole precise picture"
Bro, actually this topic doesn require deep research. There are simple facts to be addressed firstly, as those lands belong to Azerbaijan and even Armenia itself doesn recognize seperatist state. If everyone starts claiming ownership on the lands which their ancestors allegedly lived thousands years ago what would happen in the world 😂 simply, armenians like russians want s to occupy Azerbaijani lands by playing ethnic minority card which is fated to fail. All world knows armenia is ally of Russia, and by support of Russia they could hold those lands under occupation, as russia gets weaker day by day and becoming more dependant on Turkiye, Armenian seperatist entity doesn stand a chance against modernized NATO style Azerbaijani army :)
@@AtarahMata Russia wouldn let it.. don't believe these tales. Russia is in control of even current "pro Western" government. Armenian "western" president helping russians to build military equipments to kill ukranians. As sanctions don't let russians import some important goods directly, they do it through armenian companies. As a result economical relations between two countries doubled, tripled in last years which is statistical fact. Armenians can't go against Russians interests, it is only Show is crafted by russians to escape sansctions.
The title of this video should be: “Will Iran invade Azerbaijan” From geopolitical standpoint, with Iran, USA, Russia, India, France behind Armenia, there is no way Azerbaijan can invade Armenia.
Georgia lost two provinces to Russia in 1993 (South Ossetia, Abhazia)... here the Tsjetsjens were involved. Georgia had been more aligned with the West, close ties with Nato and the EU even. Armenia is more on the Russian side, they counted on Russia to help them keep Nagorno Karabach. Azerbeidjan is backed by Turkey which is also in Nato. I guess Georgia would be like Ukraine, if they mess with it Nato will help from the sidelines with intel and weapons... Armenia is more like Belarus... or Serbia... not very popular with Nato, more aligned with Russia...
My thoughts on this are about the same with Karabakh as with Ukraine - If A country is too weak to defend self-proclaimed territory itself and relies on outside help ,Its Simply too weak to exist and should concede the land. Survival of the fittest.
so if someone breaks into your house and points a gun at you, you should not exist because "survival of the fittest"? You support ethnic cleansing because "survival of the fittest"?
This is just a mess IMO as this region is full of a lot of ethnic groups that are just scattered but were under different bigger powers centuries ago like with Mongols I think, Ottomans and then Russia - after the USSR collapsed they became too unstable and just like in Yugoslavia it became aggressive which lands these eventual countries will have when they aren't independent for more than maybe even a millennium ago; there needs to be a long term peace agreement with this like between Greece and Turkey, albeit it may also need population swapping which is seen unfavorably now.
One more thing about russia helping in 2020. Russia helped after 40 days of war, beacuse they didnt want to really help. their main goal is not let anyone really win, so they can hve their troops in that region. they do not really care what will happened expecet that.
so much wrong information. Karabagh is officially recognised as part of Azerbaijan by every country in the world. In recent fights Azerbaijan never invaded parts of Armenia, in fact 20% Azerbaijan was invaded by Armenia since early 90s. You should mention this too. Azerbaijan basically got their land back. I love watching your videos however, this time your video is somehow missing the comprehensive information and somehow biased. Karabagh is self proclaimed country not recognised by any other country but Armenia. Edit: even Armenia says that it is Azerbaijani soil. Ask Pashinyan (Armenian president) if you’re in doubt
Azeris massacred Armenians in 1989, and refused to give independance to Karabagh despite the fact that the enclave's parliament voted in favor of uniting with Armenia in 1988, legally. Azeris started to make pogroms (massacres) against armenians as soon as 1989 (then massacres against Azeris followed during the subsequent war...). Armenia and inhabitant of Karabagh never recognized Nagorno-Karabakh as an Azeri land (since 1990 and pogroms against armenians btw, same period where azerbaidjan got its independance), and indeed it never was (it's populated by a majority of armenians for thousands of years). The ones destroying armenian heritage and ancient buildings are turks and azeris, not the opposite, especially in Nakhchivan, but there is no armenian remaining in Nakhchivan. On February 20, 1988, the enclave's parliament voted in favor of uniting with Armenia. The demand to unify with Armenia, which began anew in 1988, began in a relatively peaceful manner. Azerbaidjan didn't even exist in 1988 lmao
Well... Didn't know that you could see the future. I don't want to pick a side over the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, but I highly condemn the use of force (unless you are defending yourself like the Ukraine actually). I don't care that the Artsakh Republic is not recognized by anyone, the fact is that people were living in it in peace. It is a de facto state (being recognized or not is not important in my head) and you just can't crush a state like that. In my opinion, the best option will be an UN-supervised referendum where the people of Artsakh could decide beetween three options, independence in accordance with the principle of the self-dermination of people, join Armenia or join Azerbaijan with increased autonomy. No people should be forced into a contry they don't want to be a part of, even more when it is by force.
Well said! I wish Azerbaijan would be honest and say they just want to steal the land instead of lying all the time and claiming it as theirs. After thousands of years of Armenians living there, it was made an autonomous oblast that was, unfortunately attached to Azerbaijan by the Russians. THAT is only Azari claim. A stupid hurtful decision by the Russians. HOW does that make it Azeri land by any moral standard? When the Soviet Union collapsed they chose to join Armenia through a vote, not bombs. Why wouldn't they? Azerbaijan authorities treated the Armenians there horribly. When the USSR collapsed, the Armenians were the majority and voted. Then Azerbaijan attacked them to take the land outright. The Armenians did well in that war and defended themselves. But the drone tech from Israel and Turkey, developed by the US, and hired mercenaries changed the outcome in the 2020 war, and it didn't hurt that Trump was bribed by both Turkey and Azerbaijan to not complain. (They paid Trump to build a hotel in Azerbaijan and paid Trump to rename a hotel in Istanbul. Also, don't forget, Azerbaijan starved the region for over 200 days before they attacked in 2023. Kill people from afar and take the land you never had a claim to. Pathetic. And yet they are proud.
What you are implying is total bullshit. It's impossible to give every fuckong enthnicity a self-proclamation. Then, we would have thousands of countries in the world
Thank you for the video TDLR News. I just wanted to add some notes and correct some points you made. Azerbaijan did nit attack Armenia in both of the wars. Azerbaijan is just trying to take back control over the region that is his. Azerbaijan will never attack Armenia not because of the international reaction to it but also there is no need and motivation for that. As an Azerbaijani i can say that Azerbaijanis want peace and the government is not interested in getting a huge target to the economy. You should have also spoke about the fact that in first Karabakh war Armenia not only attacked Nogorno Karabakh but also surrounding territories where the majority are Azerbaijanis. The war is over and Azerbaijan regained its territories back. Hopefully, Armenians living in Karabakh and Azerbaijanis learn to live together again. As it was before. Please look to the issue from both perspectives and try to communicate with people from both sides who are educated and will speak with facts. P.S. The “occupied” word you used was not correct and every single country in UN even Armenia recognizes Karabakh as a part of Azerbaijan. Thank you again. You may contact me if information is needed.
Everyone, even Azerbaijan recognizes the occupied by turks part of Cyprus as part of the official Cyprus, the whole island as one. But no one decided to use the army to take back the control of the occupied northern part. That's the difference between civilized world and barbarina Azeris. I don't expect from barbarian azeris to know that, but I expect them to stop trying to convince anyone that they are "civilized"
@@hamlet557 we are civilized enough. At least we were not the ones to displace around 1 million Azerbaijanis and kill thousands of civilians during first Karabakh War. We took what is rightfully ours and again we will do our best to reintegrate with the Armenians there. I understand War is bad. But it is sometimes necessary.
@@ismaylnamazov You don't even know what civility is. And after seeing so many videos of YOU azeris posting dead bodies of armenians, I'm very sure what "intergration" means for your murderous nation. Maybe you start to respect the people you killed, because right now you are too barbarians to do even that!!!! If you look at the comments, only azeris and turks agree with you. And again, if you look at the comments, Azeris and Turks often reveal their true nature: murder, ethnic cleansing, pride of killing people. That's your culture. It's disgusting, I'm ashamed that humanity didn't reach that part of the world. I hope at least that all this bloodthirsty mentality stays within Azerbaijan and all visa applications to EU would be denied. Also give refugee status to all armenians from Nagorno, instead of m*slims. Unfortunately that's all I can do. It's a sad world. Barbarians can win battles, but they can't build civilization or liveable cities.
@@BRONCOWEN Yes this is 100x more important than who some random singer is dating. But unfortunately what who a singer is dating tends to get much higher ratings than something like this. Also even if the media did cover it, we know they'll base it on what the state department wants you to think and you'll get an extremely false narrative on the issue anyway. So instead of knowing nothing about the issue, you'd probably walk away with a warped and untrue version of what is happening. If they don't feel an issue is important enough for them to take the energy to lie to us about it, they won't cover it. This is one of those situations. It is just the way our entire system of disseminating information is unfortunately.
None of those were ever in Armenia’s control. The country was too poor from day one to afford a decent military budget of any kind. And all of Armenia’s neighbors are either sworn enemies, or negligent abusers who simply keep them on a chain for their own interests.
Even Armenian prime minister recognized Garabag as Azerbaijan land but you can't understand. GARABAG AND Abxaziya conflict started after Georgia and Azerbaijan rejected any Russian troop in their land. But Armenia created 2 military Russian base in Armenia. In this way Armenian and Russian troops killed numerous innocents in Georgia in Azerbaijan. Actually no one country in the world Don take care od ordinary peoples life in both side. They just follow their business interest. EU union or France or Russia have a tendency to control region in a pressure and got all sources. But as ordinary people Armenian or Azerbaijan people only need peace. We just want stabile economy and improved industry under the control of international rules.
No. Armenian Prime Minister didn't recognise Artsakh as part of Turkish Azerbaijan. Artsakh is part of Kingdom of Armenia on all ancient maps and we live there from the beginning. Nikol Pashinyan said IF you take your troops out of Republic of Armenia then he will recognise. Because you invaded Armenia proper in Jermuk, Syuniq and Vayots Dzor provinvies and keep on shooting and killing civilians he had no choice but to let Artsakh go and fight for its independence so Republic of Armenia can be free. But Azerbaijan rejected that offer and your rtroops are still in Armenia proper and killing and kidnapping our people. You want peace and stability but you want to have it on our lands and on us. We are democratic society, Indo-European, Christian nation with European values and we are indigenous to Armenian highland. Yet, you , ethnic Turks of Islamic dictatorship of Azerbaijan kidnap, behead, gang rape our people and claim you want peace and stability. If you really want it let us live freely on our ancestral lands!
Then why you guys are pressing on Armenia to give up so called “zangezur corridor” an extraterritorial corridor within Armenian recognized territory wich will not be controlled by Armenia any more. All we want is dignified peace and stability. We’re ready to open borders for trade there’s no need of extraterritorial corridors.
@@suren2313 More over, Georgia and Iran are happy to give corridor but Azerbaijan and Russia insist on Syuniq corridor because they want to divide Armenia, for Syuniq to be occupied by Azerbaijan and for the rest of Armenia without borders to Iran to become Russian gubernia
No one really talking about the fact that azerbejan never existed before 1918. It was a made up country by Joseph Stalin to house the mongol-turkic tribes mixed with Persians. And then Gifted Artsakh and Nakhichevan to this newly created country because Stalin's wife was pro-azeei. And also the Russians always make decisions to appease the turks. Armenia is currently 29,800sq km in size when previously it was up to 300,000sq km. Armenians liberated their Artsakh in a fair fight in early 90s but Armenia failed to push international organisations for recognition.
LMAOOO. Thats the funniest joke ever heard. like Armenia ever existed before 1918 ? read about the articles how Russian Tsar is moving the Armenians to caucasians so that they could cut the connection between Turkey and other Turkic countries.
Turkiye was never existed before 1923, it means our people came to earth from mars? Average armenian brain be like. All of your informations are fake and lie. Stalin didn't give any land to us. He was friend of levon mirzoyan and stepan shaumyan whcih our land Khankendi was changed to stepanakert by Stalin.
@@Khacmaz_edits the region that is now called azerbejan and turkey were not historically turkic. turkic people came in waves from central Asia (Altai mountains) under Seljuk rule after 11th century AD making them invaders. I didn't say they came from Mars. The people living in these regions are not necessarily turkic by DNA, only linguistically in recent times due to the strong Pan-turkic political movement. On the other hand, Armenians have inhabited the region since ancient times. Google Hay-asa Azzi or Tigranes The Great.
Waiting for the US to invade Canada to unite with Alaska. Just seems to be the trendy thing lately . . . 😂 Edit: I guess I need more emojis for some readers . . . 😉
@@FromValkyrie It has been more than 200 years since the last attempt. I'd assess the US to be slightly stronger relative to Canada (even backed by Britain) than it was in 1812.
@@ShankarSivarajan you and the original commenter need to demand a refund on your education. What has Alaska got to do with anything? Do you even know how Alaska became a US state?
The difference is Alaska was never Canadian. Artsakh has always been Armenian for thousands of years. Canada has no business claiming Alaska, just like Azerbaijan has no business claiming Artsakh
Aren’t they exercising on Armenia territory? I am pretty sure Azerbaijan is only interested in Nagorno-Karabakh, which is recognized worldwide as their territory
@@last_aid_kitthe dictator of azerbaijan has repeatedly claimed armenia as an ancient azeri territory. Which is odd since azerbaijan never existed in the history of mankind before the year 1918. The dictators claims are a warning sign that as soon as azerbaijan ethnically cleanses all indigenous Armenians from their lands aliyev the dictator will come after armenia next.
@@AramBasmadjian-wz1wj we said get out of our lands, say thanks to Stalin that he populated Karabakh with Armenian people, after all it will be Azerbaijani"s soon
@TheCamouflageMonkey what? Did u really just say usually borders aren't divided by ethnicity? Are u crazy? Then how are they divided? Every country is divded to keep their own ethnicity and culture. Shut up and get your gibberish morse code out of here.
Folks are hating on Azerbaijan here, claiming they should be sanctioned and Armenia helped and all kinds of stuff... On what basis? They (maybe with some very small exceptions) aren't occupying de jure Armenian land. Their military moves are consistent with the military moves it would make to liberate Nagarno-Karabakh, which is de-jure Azerbaijan's from Armenia; a move they have the right to make. The only thing you can go by with is a human rights record but if we know two things, it's that a human rights record is incredibly hard to base, AND that sanctions are an incredibly ineffective tool to create human rights improvement. The alternative, offering Ukraine style support to Armenia would totally alienate Azerbaijan, and again, that wouldn't be rooted in fighting a violation of international law; BUT THE OPPOSITE, it would in effect be becoming an accomplice in the violation of international law. This is NOT a move that spurs confidence in international partners, this is NOT a move that advance support for a rules based international order. The commies created a catch 22 in the borders of their former subjects. These borders were designed to create war. The only way to avoid wars is an adherence to international law. And that means some nations, like Armenia, get screwed out of their ethnic lands. So be it. It is not the arbitrary Putin style land grabs where if you give a finger he takes a hand. It is a land grab based on decisions made many decades ago, and the situation is not repeatable. That is why diplomacy is the only option for Armenia to gain any kind of victory
I feel like a new international military convention should be passed around attributing full fiscal responsability for destroyed properties and infrastructure within a warzone , regardless of control, to the sovreign party who destroyed it. liability doubles if it was destroyed in a 'non-formalized "CoNfliCt" '.
As often happens, the analysis is not the most accurate. As the conflict with the West escalates, Russia seeks to enlist the support of the “South.” One of the important partners in this for them is Turkey. For Russia now, neutrality and trade with Turkey are very important, so they agreed to cede part of their influence in the Caucasus. In the 2020 war, they bought Turkey’s neutrality in the war between Russia and Ukraine. Turkey located its military bases in Azerbaijan, Turkey’s presence in NATO does not bother Russia at all. Now Russia really needs trade relations with Turkey, so they are ready to create the "Zangezur corridor" together. In return, Turkey will help Russia continue to circumvent Western sanctions. Armenia and Azerbaijan are just puppets in this game.
Haha Azerbaijan is a puppet?) we want our rightful lands back and gonna get it by playing political game. And, we are planning to benefit from trade routes as an transit country. That's why opening of Zangezur corridor is in interest of many countries included China in first place. We have common interests aligned in a high level with Turkiye, but it doesn mean we are puppet. During the time Turkiye and Israel had bad relations, we kept our ties strong with Israel and export them oil in return of high tech military equipments. If we were willing to be puppet, it would be much easier to lean towards Russia than Turkiye. But, we chose our side - if we want to stay independent and not be like poor Armenia we need to be sided with Turkiye even though it was very diffucult in the early years of independence that's why we lost our lands in expense of our freedom. Armenians got our lands but lost their independence and become very dependent on Russia. We signed oil contracts with West against of Russian interestes in order to keep our independence and develop economically. After all these, well articulated people call us Puppet. Pls , appreciate the fact that as an small and newborn country we have well crafted foreign policy which helping us to get stronger day by day. We appreciate the support of Turkiye, Israel and some friendly countries but in politics every player has own interests. E.g Azerbaijan is a key player in Turkiye's political agenda in Asia, helps Turkiye building ties with other Turkic countries. As, former Soviet countries and advantage of geographical location, Azerbaijan can do it. In return we get support from Türkiye and etc..
That is why I think Azerbaijan IS going to invade Armenia. Azerbaijan and Armenia are clearly aware of this game that is between Russia and Turkey. But since Iran is starting to get involved and Russia is busy with Ukraine, Azerbaijan might have the chance to invade Armenia and get Karabakh back. (I don't think they'll ever fully invade Armenia. They'll probably take some land and demand Karabakh and Zangazur Corridor to be opened) So, if Azerbaijan gets Karabakh and Zangazur Corridor, they'll probably stop being aggressive towards Armenia and their land. Which would mean that they won't be a puppet any longer. Armenia has already started resisting Russian control. They have been getting supplied from India and France with arms. So, I think these two countries are about to do what they want without the permission of their parents. (Which might either ruin both of them or make Azerbaijan win)
You're making ridiculous analyzes because you don't know that Turkey and Russia are historical rivals. Türkiye looks after its own interests. Many of you forget this, but at the very beginning of the war, Turkey helped Ukraine as much as it could, while no Western state helped Ukraine in order not to upset relations with Russia because Ukraine would lose in advance. Having stated from the beginning that I am someone who does not like Erdogan, I can only laugh at those who think that Erdogan and Putin are friends. The men who always fought against each other in Syria and Libya are suddenly declared friends by a high school war expert.
@@barskayhan2691 They are rivals but not enemies. The enemy for Russia is the West. And the West for Russia in the Caucasus is a much worse scenario than Turkey. The hostility in Syria does not bother Russia at all. Where war is needed, where mutually beneficial partnership is needed. In Ukraine and Syria, Turkey has its own ambitions. Turkey helps Ukraine, but also helps Russia economically. Turkey periodically initiates negotiations in a manner beneficial to Russia. Turkey plays its own game.
@@gl8272 Explaining the political preferences of these countries through Putin, Zelensky, and Erdoğan alone can lead to misunderstandings. Turkey, of course, follows a balanced foreign policy, but there are also historical reasons for its initial support for Ukraine, just like Serbia's policy at the beginning of the war. In other words, it speaks to realpolitik, but there's also a background to consider. I am evaluating the situation historically. When I open the map and look at events from the last five hundred years, it becomes clear that incidents like the passage of grain ships don't hold much significance. Just a few years ago, the deaths of dozens of Turkish soldiers due to a Russian airstrike, for example, is a politically much more significant event. This event is known by everyone in Turkey just like shot down Russian jet(by Turkey) known by everyone in Russia. Despite this, it's not possible for Erdoğan to pursue a policy based on it. Even though Erdoğan may be a dictator, he still needs the votes of those citizens to be elected. I believe that when the Ukraine war ends and the West starts buying gas from Russia again, Putin will once again be declared a peace envoy, and the analyses of Erdoğan and Putin being best friends will disappear. As you mentioned in your comment, the Erdoğan-Putin relationship is hanging by a very thin thread. Erdoğan portraying himself as very close to Putin is also risky for his domestic political career. In my opinion, many people analyze the two countries without knowing their internal dynamics, geography, and history, using Putin and Erdoğan as caricatures.
This a very lopsided narratives. Starting with NK is essentially and legally part of Azerbaijan. And the fact that lachin border was agreed upon at 2020 peace treaty with access of Nakchavan. I never belived my elders who claimed west has selected amnesia but this is insult to our intelligence. I remember peace treaty when repoted by many international press.
@@NoName-xq7dp Azeris massacred Armenians in 1989, and refused to give independance to Karabagh despite the fact that the enclave's parliament voted in favor of uniting with Armenia in 1988, legally. Azeris started to make pogroms (massacres) against armenians as soon as 1989 (then massacres against Azeris followed during the subsequent war...). Armenia and inhabitant of Karabagh never recognized Nagorno-Karabakh as an Azeri land (since 1990 and pogroms against armenians btw, same period where azerbaidjan got its independance), and indeed it never was (it's populated by a majority of armenians for thousands of years). The ones destroying armenian heritage and ancient buildings are turks and azeris, not the opposite, especially in Nakhchivan, but there is no armenian remaining in Nakhchivan. On February 20, 1988, the enclave's parliament voted in favor of uniting with Armenia. The demand to unify with Armenia, which began anew in 1988, began in a relatively peaceful manner. Azerbaidjan didn't even exist in 1988 lmao
Western countries can be interested in mutual relations with Armenia, because of Russian factor in South Caucasus is very small now and balance of power is disrupted. And because of that Americans opened industrial area in armenian-azerbaijanis border. I think that the role of regulator in this conflict can take USA. For Armenia there isn’t much time to get stronger, but with help of interested countries like USA and Iran confilct can delayed for a moment to give Armenia a chance to replay.
It is seem very easy to sit and write in front of the laptop at warm and silent home whatever your mind is thinking. But believe me your murdered troops also thought like that before they left to sleep at yerablur. The war is not for you, you cant fight, you can only kill people innocent kids and women as in KHOJALY 26 February in 1992 . you *rmenian predict to sit behind the supporting countries and cry from there.
A landlocked country cannot receive enough support of any kind from a power from thousands of miles away. Maybe from Georgian ports but I am not sure if it is ok to carry that much weapon in the black sea due to Montreaux convention. I think It is better for Armenia and Armenians to settle down the dispute and improve the relations with the neighbouring countries. Many people misses the point that Armenia has 4 neighbouring countries and they have bad relations with three of them including Georgia which is indeed a Christian country. Such international relations is a limitation for any country to prosper. About Russian influence in region, I can still say that it is much more than the US they still have cost advantage in case of a usage of force. Also an action against Azerbaijan may result gas shortages or at least price shocks in Europe so it is unlikely. Under these conditions it is better for Armenians and Armenian state to stop playing the victim and face what they did to regional countries in the past so they are not welcome in 75% of their neighbouring states. Also this type of action would decrease Armenians' dependence on regional or global powers to secure Armenia's territories. I do not say that improving relations is at no cost but still it is better than relaying on others.
@@neutrino4853 In 21 century countries conducting weapon transportation and not only weapon primarily use air connection as like Azeris with Il76 from Israel and talking about sea ports and land borders is not correct in 21 century. Improving relations is good, but only when in region will be balance between powers. Russia now has interests with Azerbaijan and Turkey it is knowed from everyone. But Russian factor americans want to break down and for that they can use Armenia. For great power balance in region is everything for US especially. Armenia wil try to normalise relations but only when requests from Turkey and Azerbaijan will be lesser than now and when Armenia will strenghthen its hard power.
@@ParuyrS I believe you are not counting the cost of air transportation. This is a huge parameter. If US wants to ship arms to Armenia for some reason it will be costly and who is going to pay for it? Armenian economy is not in a good shape and also not only Russia but also US is occupied with Ukraine war. Apart from the eastern europe, US has to focus on China and indo&west-pacific power shifts. I am afraid to say but it is not a lucrative deal for US to donate arms to a region in which their power projection capabilities will unlikely surpass the superpower in the region or say the least the regional powers such as Iran and Turkey. For such a scenario to become successful, Iran is critical for ground transportation. However, even if the US and the Iran decide to support Armenia I have doupts that they will collaborate on that purpose because of the Iranian illogical theocratic regime. By the way, to break the Russian overhand in caucasus they dont have to ally with Armenia, they can just support Ukraine so Russians will be much more occupied with the ongoing war. Also supporting Armenia in such conditions is costly, don't forget it is not wise to back the wrong horse. For Armenian state I cannot see a short term solution in favor of them. The least damaging international policy seems to negociate on demands and make them in a plausible level and then compromise. Another scenario can be formally allying with Iran and it could work for short term but this would be the last straw in between Armenian and western relations and damage it for a couple of decades.
@@neutrino4853 Armenia don’t have much choice in the countries to buy weapon for understandable reasons, but for example India can afford to help Armenia because of Pakistani factor and not only India. I don’t consider official help from US as a weapon transportation, but with their mediation Armenia can negotiate with Azerbaijan at the end. US is a country of big caliber and for them multitasking never was and is a problem if you read world history. And if we consider last peace agenda between Saudi Arabia and Iran for them possible zone of influence is essential in this region. Armenian economy now is being strengthened , but if we compare Armenia and Azerbaijan in numbers its obvious that azeris are ahead. Azeri’s inner political situation now isn’t good and they can’t afford many casualties in future war because of domestic political problems. They now work to scare Armenia with muscles to have more concessions at the table of negotiations. About Iran mentality of the last part 20 century is not proper because in foreign policy after death of Khomeini 1989 their foreign policy was oriented more secular way but in inner policy i agree they are religious. Armenia can use red lines of Iran considered with borders, because if Zangezur coridor will be opened Iran will lost 200 mln market and its against their national interests. In this vein Armenia has chances. With helping Ukraine US can’t low the influence of Russia through Azerbaijan and Turkey because they are in the same “basket”. But Armenia can diversify power balance. But i already mentioned that i truly disbelief about weapon help from US. Iran will not help with the situation of Nagorno-Karabakh, but Armenia should use Iran to the issue of Zangezur’s corridor.
Azerbaijan needs to back off and stop bullying Armenia. (No, I'm not saying Armenia never did anything wrong). Most of Nagorno-Karabakh does not want to be part of Azerbaijan. Seems like Azerbaijan is the aggressor. Why does Armenia not have more support? Because it's in a worser position?
Why are you not telling us before the fall of the USSR? That piece of land ethnically belonged to Azerbaijan. Stalin moved Armenian people there to start conflict and hasn't been stopped. Stfu and read more.
The day before the war in Ukraine Azerbaijan signed agreement with Russia of strategic cooperation. Coincidentally there was a sequence of more similar type of agreements.
Its important to note, Russia never intervened by CSTO agreement, there were never Russian troops fighting on the side of Armenia. Their intervention was a a very bad trilateral agreement that is now being broken by Azerbaijan.
CSTO agreement is to protect Armenia from invasion , Qarabagh is not part Armenia and not stipulated in the agreement stupid. Yes there are Armenian Russian Wagner army send by Kremlin Russia pro Armenia during 2020 war.
@@azeturkmen Azeris refused to give independance to Karabagh despite the fact that the enclave's parliament voted in favor of uniting with Armenia in 1988, legally. Also, Azeris started to make pogroms (massacres) against armenians as soon as 1989 (then massacres against Azeris followed during the subsequent war...). it's quite different, Armenia and inhabitant of Karabagh never recognized Nagorno-Karabakh as an Azeri land (since 1990 and pogroms against armenians btw, same period where azerbaidjan got its independance), and indeed it never was (it's populated by a majority of armenians for thousands of years). The ones destroying armenian heritage and ancient buildings are turks and azeris, not the opposite, especially in Nakhchivan, but there is no armenian remaining in Nakhchivan. On February 20, 1988, the enclave's parliament voted in favor of uniting with Armenia. The demand to unify with Armenia, which began anew in 1988, began in a relatively peaceful manner. Azerbaidjan didn't even exist in 1988 lmao
Lie: Where did Aremnia's victory winning ARMY in 1993 disappered? BECAUSE THEN IN 1993 RUSSIAN TROOPS PAINTED IN ARMENIAN COLORS/FLAGS WAS THE MAIN POWER WHO INVADED KARABAG + OTHER AZERBAIJANI TERRITORIS (25 OF AZERBAIJAN'S LANDS. LIARS LIARS LIARS
@@azeturkmenLOL, Armenians lived there for centuries. Historically it belongs to Armenia. If during USSR it was legally given to Azerbaijan, that doesn’t mean that Armenians are occupiers. Stop using such terms. If Putin tomorrow says, that Moscow is USA, and legally acknowledges it, does it mean that people living in Moscow are occupiers? 😂
So many important points missed deliberately or not 1. Karabakh is internationally recognized territory of Azerbaijan, including Armenia. You don't invade your own territory/ 2. CSTO doesn't cover Karabakh as mentioned above since agreement based on recognized borders of members. So Russia didn't help because there was no reason to. 3. Armenia not only invaded Karabakh on 90 but surrounding areas which were 20% of Azerbaijan, resulting in 800.000 IDPs. There are much more but report distort the facts rather than explaining it.
1:12 False information Azerbaijan Calls it as "Dağlık Karabağ". "Nagorno" is Russian. This itself shows that you truly have no idea about the topic... Western Media at its finest.
Armenia is a democracy, supported by Russia. Azerbaijan is a dictatorship, backed by the west. Or consider that China's last war ended in 1979, the US' latest one ended barely 2 years ago in 2021. The world isn't as simple as a religious childrens' book.
@@av3902 Then Armenians shouldn't have rebelled and killed thousands of Turkish civilians while Turkey was under invasion of half of Europa and Russia in WW1.
@@Tennis2016 Nope. Azeris massacred Armenians in 1989, and refused to give independance to Karabagh despite the fact that the enclave's parliament voted in favor of uniting with Armenia in 1988, legally. Azeris started to make pogroms (massacres) against armenians as soon as 1989 (then massacres against Azeris followed during the subsequent war...). Armenia and inhabitant of Karabagh never recognized Nagorno-Karabakh as an Azeri land (since 1990 and pogroms against armenians btw, same period where azerbaidjan got its independance), and indeed it never was (it's populated by a majority of armenians for thousands of years). The ones destroying armenian heritage and ancient buildings are turks and azeris, not the opposite, especially in Nakhchivan, but there is no armenian remaining in Nakhchivan. On February 20, 1988, the enclave's parliament voted in favor of uniting with Armenia. The demand to unify with Armenia, which began anew in 1988, began in a relatively peaceful manner. Azerbaidjan didn't even exist in 1988 lmao
@steventaylor3104 : looks like your mom has told you about him. But think about this : you lived thousand years other Azerbaijani kings. So most probably your female ancestors been served well by those royal Azeri aubergine 🍆👍🏼
in 1990's war , Armenians not only occupied the Karabakh but also occupied surrounding 7 region totally belongs to Azerbaijan. These 7 regions were even 2-3 times bigger than Karabakh itself. For 30 years azerbaijan insisted Armenia to give back these 7 regions but did not get any reply. Armenians claimed that not only Karabakh but these 7 regions also belongs to Armenians . in 2020's war , azerbaijan succesfully get these 7 region back. only a part of Karabakh stayed under Armenian occupation. And 2 days ago Azerbaijan finished the job and fully liberated its own land so the problem occured in 1990's war is happily over now.
2:45 and a tonne of drones. Although the war was short, there were a lot of videos showing how devastating they were against the Armenian army in 2020 3:07 negotiations started right after Azerbaijan took down a Russian helicopter by mistake. Russia did close to nothing before that
WTF did you expect Russia to do? Sacrifice thousands of its soldiers to protect Armenia that has been anti-russian for at least 5 last years and just did a military exercise with NATO? All while armenis themselves are loud on the internet from their safe diasporas in Russia, the US and other countries but do nothing to protect their homeland on the ground? Screw that.
There are a lot of wrong information in this video. Please, next time search the materials more carefully as this topic is really sensible for millions of people.
@@AtarahMata check the history of qarabag improve your knowledge. Qarabag was invaded by Armenians 40 years ago. It was always part of Azerbaijan. Iran is not the part of this concept don't ask me im not the government lol
@@AtarahMata and I believe in the will of Azerbaijani people. Going back to 400 or BC years won't make any changes at all, I'm talking about only 30 years ago.
F.., it is not disputed! it is internationally recognised Azerbaijan land occupied by Armenians and Russians. Millions of Azerbaijani are displaced from their homes in 1990s. Why is it too difficult to understand?
And so it's begun. Pay close attention to these frozen conflict areas, I'm convinced that this region is about to see heavy fighting with no Russian "Peacekeepers" to divide the battling countries. I pray this will not spill over into another world war.
Im Armenian and i can confirm that we have no clue wth our dumb politicians are doing. Azerbaijan invaded us yesterday and hasnt stopped since. We have already lost dozens of soldiers and few innocents
why is it not talked about what the Armenians did to the Azerbaijanis? Is Azerbaijan guilty? Or Armenians, who always pretend to be pitiful? Armenians have taken revenge for their genocides and will take revenge. You British, Americans and French can forget this, but you are not the supporters of human rights? Why do you not recognize the genocides committed against the independent population in Karabakh? Why have you forgotten Khojaly? YOU ARE A LIAR LAW DEFENDER running after the lies of 1-2 flattering Armenians, YES I AM SURE OF IT
Just to note, Azerbaijan hasnt invaded someones land, they just took control of their internationaly recognized territory called Karabağ from illegaly armed forces. You could look at least maps.google to check in which country the Karabağ is located . On the other hand, Kara means black and bağ means yard , that Karabağ is a turkish word..
We also know that Cyprus is recognized as ONE COUNTRY, the whole island. If Cypriots did to turkish occupation the same as azeris do to armenians you wouldn't say the same. So shut up, and accept your barbarian bloodthisty nature. Don't try to excuse your murders.
@@aydamirguli77 Im not even talking about the contested region. Azerbaijan attacked the Armenian mainland. Also if we go about internationally recognised borders, does that mean that China can just carpetbomb Taiwan and that will be fine because its their territory?
@@aydamirguli77 "attacking" "attacked", nowhere do I say occupy, but to fullfill your information needs: "Azerbaijani forces attacked military and civilian positions in Vardenis, Goris, Sotk, Jermuk, and other cities with artillery, drones, and heavy weapons."
South Azerbaijan is NOT Iran. The Azerbaijani Turks have endured years of oppression by the Persian government, depriving them of their rights. Azerbaijani Turks are unwavering in their solidarity with their brothers and sisters in Azerbaijan, and they anticipate a future where they will achieve freedom and reunite with Azerbaijan in the near future. 🇦🇿❤🇦🇿❤🇹🇷🇦🇿❤🇦🇿❤🇹🇷
Hah, exactly! And thanks god zombieland (russia) lost it's power. Neighbors are tired of Russia. Only armenia and belarus are sending love to russia. Because they are puppets of Russia. Rest of neighbors just hate russia. Just hate.
It is important to clarify The Republic of "Azarpadegan" historically was called Arrano Shirvan until 1918 when with Russia influence they copied the name of our province in Northern Iran in order to incite division within Iran but it never worked. Azarpadegan means fire garrison in Persian translates to "place where fire is protected" as Azarpadegan province of Iran was devoutly Zoroastrian.
Some additions:
- Iran is concerned about Azerbaijan getting bigger considering there's a significant minority of Azeri's living in Iran that could eventually demand to be unified with Azerbaijan like Azerbaijan now claims Qarabag.
- Armenia has received/bought weapons from other powers as well like India, France and Greece. It's not clear how much support they would be willing to offer as they all have their own interests in the region.
- Azerbaijan could potentially count on the help of Israel as well considering their alliance with Azerbaijan and their interests in keeping Iran down.
edit: ohh before I forget
- Azerbaijan is a major trade link between China and Europe as further north through Russia and south through Iran is not possible due to sanctions. Azerbaijan is an alternative gas and oil provider for Europe. Azerbaijan and the Caspian Sea are also a vital trade link between Russia and Iran/India. A conflict could severely complicate that or make it impossible.
- Ukraine might profit indirectly as Iran would no longer be able to provide Russia with (as much) support as it is currently doing.
@@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500no they supported Azerbaijan
@@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500
Armenia support Palestine
Turkey and Azerbaijan support Israel.
@@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 As far as I know Israel had normal relations with Armenia up until the point Israel backed Azerbaijan in 2020.
Israel and Azerbaijan always had good ties and Azerbaijan has bought and used Israeli weapons against Armenia. There's been rumors that Azerbaijan gave Israel permission to use their airfields in case they felt the need to bomb Iran at some point.
@@FCGroningen1987 ah, i see
ty for explaining
@@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500also of note is that Azerbaijan is (or at least used to be) Israel's largest oil supplier, which gave Israel an economic incentive to side with the Azeris, though with the Israeli discovery and development of their gas fields in recent years this reliance might have faded a little.
You forgot one important thing. One of the main reasons Armenia won the war in the 90's was thanks to the money (and also volunteers) sent back by the very rich Armenian diaspora around the world. But by now, Azerbaijan's oil wealth is greater than that which could be spared by wealthy Armenians abroad; plus the current generation is one more generation removed from their roots in Armenia, so they would probably help less than last time.
you are wrong the Armenian diaspora will be 500k strong with unlimited funds ready to rain hell on aliyev and anyone supporting him
As a Balkan Turk in the situation of war
I will help Azerbaijan. Also Turkey and Azerbaijan are both Turks. Like Turkestan Turks. One Nation Seven state.
@@Resmitarihteyazmaz Allah and his 40 gay men will be waiting for you 😂
also most terrifying things happened in 90's to azerbaijani people living in the region such as Hojali Massacre done by armenian army, but they covered up really well during that time thanks to wealthy armenian diaspora as you mentioned
@@batu2345 what kind of mental jiu jitsu are you azeris doing in your head? You don't think the aliyev family is lying to you so your attention is on a made up enemy so you don't see the true crimes of your government who steals from its own people?
The note about how Amernia has been trying to pivot to the West is interesting. Too little too late, indeed.
Unfortunately, the West didn't really care about Armenia that much, so they had no choice than to rely on Russia and, to a minor degree, Iran. In fact, geopolitically that would be the natural axis for Armenia to be in, if the population where not pro-democracy.
@@filipe5722 The problem with Armenia is that Turkey supports its rival, Azerbaidjan, and has complicated relations. Because of this, it's hard for Western countries to give a real military support to Armenia as maintaining Turkey in NATO is more valuable than having Armenia.
As a French citizen, I wish Armenia was supported, but I would understand if the support doesn't go very far.
Turkey is too important to take the risk of souring relations just to help a 3 millions inhabitants country.
@@filipe5722 This guy clearly got his facts mixed up. Armenia started leaning towards the West AFTER CSTO outright ignored their obligation to help its member nations in times of conflict. Just like the Warsaw Pact that preceded it, CSTO seemed better suited to putting down civilian protesters than armed soldiers it seems.
@@guillaumeroussel8633 Yup, that's exactly it. Armenia sits in the crossroads between two opposing axes: Turkey-Azerbaijan and Russia-(Georgia)-Iran. The first one is hostile towards Armenia, so they had no other choice than to rely on the second one.
The only hope now is that Russian influence over the Black Sea retreats with a Ukrainian victory and the EU/NATO take more interest in the Caucasus, allowing Armenia to seek a guarantor. Still, that will likely need Georgia cooperation, so it's still a big gamble for Armenia.
@@filipe5722 There are a lot of Armenians in the US. But, Armenia sided with Russia-Iran. Not great geopolitics for western countries. Azerbaijan is allies with Turkey and to a degree with the West. But also, getting close to Russia.
US is officially neutral.
This is the craziest conflict i have ever seen....Now US, France, India and Iran together are supporting Armenia...Israel ,Turkey and Pakistan supporting Azerbaijan...
it's not effective if you don't have borders with country that you invading or supporting. in afghanistan America lost because afghanistan have borders with china and Russia.
Yes. All countries which supports terrorism they are with Armenia like France , India and etc. Not only İsrail and Türkiye. England too
West always supports what is against Turkey's interests. No matter who is right
@@whQQpsYou are "slightly" wrong, Russia has no borders with Afghanistan (they are only 3370 kilometers apart).
And the lack of borders did not prevent them from defending South Korea from the communists.
real face how israel friend going to help azerbaijan or armenia. and enemy iran become agreement with Azerbaijan. western countries should pick their side iran or israel and US or china. this wars should big lesson to propaganda media... 18th and 19th sep Armenia and US joint military drill same date AZ start military operation. well done, US beter keep quit for some times will be go for armenia, france almost losing his power around the world.
Thanks! for reporting the real news
(Real) yeah it is 😂
I worked in Armenia for a short time. There's a brandy factory in Yerevan called Ararat, where Stalin and Churchill used to order brandy. They have a huge barrel there called the Peace Barrel, signed by politicians from both sides. It was made in 2001 and will only be opened when a peaceful settlement is agreed over Nagorno-Karabakh.
As long as they call that mountain Ararat, there will be no peace lol. They literally say that the mountain in Turkey is theirs.
@@tywinlannister it literally is Armenian. Before Turkic people migrated to Anatolia, Armenians were the sole guardians of Ararat for thousands of years.
Colonizers don't get to rewrite history just because they removed indigenous people from their homes and lands.
Guess that's the point. The barrel won't be opened willingly anytime soon...
There’s no such thing as “indigenous people” lmao. Humans have been fighting each other over land for THOUSANDS OF YEARS!!!!!!! People have been moving around for THOUSANDS OF YEARS. Ararat has been Turkish for 1000 years since the SELJUKS. We won it by WAR. That’s how it was back then and now. Stop telling yourself lies. Do you think there were people before “Armenians” in that lands? Yes their probably were just as their were in EVERY OTHER PIECE OF LAND GENIUS. Like wow have you never read a history book? Or a Geographic book? Or a scientific book? Any book? Wow cannot believe delusion here.
@@AraVochavatkyan Should we give all the Americas to the natives? Braindead.
No, not "sole guardians" lol, wherever that propaganda is from.
I am proud to say that due to all these TLDR videos on this conflict, I now know which country is Armenia and which Azerbaijan. Use to get them mixed up constantly
Don't you love how Armenia invaded Azerbeijan 30 years ago and now Azerbeijan is more powerful they are taking their territories back. Hopefully something similar will happen in Ukraine
I'm hoping to eventually be able to spell them correctly without spellcheck.
@@Rikimkigsckactually Armenia didn't start the war in the 1990s or 2020. Both were started by Azerbaijan. There is something to say that Artsakh declaring their independence from the USSR and Soviet Azerbaijan was the catalyst, it was done legally and without force.
@@Rikimkigsck clearly most people support armenia
@@airinmaz729cap, russia even came and invade baku in 1990s because they supported armenia and thousands of azerbaijanis were moved away from their homes in Karabakh 100s of them froze to death couldnt even reach Baku we call it Khojaly genocide there are images on the internet
The historical background before 1990 War is crucial to understanding. One can’t just jump in at the 1990’s War.
I'm honestly surprised this conflicted hasn't escalated more
thanks to peace keeper Putin
We love putin and we love xi
@@xijinpig7978, Winnie the Pooh is a cool character indeed
Azerbaijan has the upper hand by far but don't want to stir too much trouble to avoid coming under sanction of any kind cause they rely massively on trading with the West. They'll probably try to slowly but surely get the minimum their want (the enclave and a passage on the south of Armenia) and stop at that.
Azerbaijan has likely been carefully weighing its options. Wars can take a while so even if Russia couldn't intervene right now, the situation could change in the future. Azerbaijan probably wanted to make sure that Russia was going to be tied up in Ukraine for a while. Especially since Russia would probably like to intervene in an Azeri-Armenian conflict. Russia's reputation as a major world power has taken a hit since the botched and now stagnant invasion of Ukraine. Being able to protect Armenia would allow Russia to regain a small amount of its credit as a military power.
CSTO is fucking useless thats why.
Situation is looking pretty grim, I hope things get resolved without much of bloodshed, but honestly this is not looking good.
yeah just what we need, another war to create more instability
They will invade for sure and armenia stands no chance, unfortunately… it’ll be a bloodbath
Armenia is the first Christian country, Indo-European nation, natives of Armenian Highland. Modern Turkey is used to be Kingdom of Armenia and Greece in antient times. Nowdays Armenia is a small, democratic country with European values. Azerbaijan is a Muslim country and they are ethnic Turks whose ancestors invaded Armenian Highland, Anatolia and Caucasus in 11 century. Azerbaijan is one of the wors dictatorships in the world where vice president is president's wife and Aliyev inherited the "trone" from his father and rules the country over 25 years. Exactly a year ago Azerbaijan invaded Republic of Armenia, after two years of occupying Artsakh (Nagorno Karabakh).
Azerbaijan claims all of Armenia is "historic Azerbaijan" and has already invaded Republic of Armenia after occupying Artsakh (Nagorno Karabakh).
"On September 14 2022, a gruesome video began circulating on social media. The video showed a naked woman - Anush Apetyan, a mother of three - whose legs and fingers had been chopped off and her eyes gouged out. One of her fingers was stuck in her mouth and a stone was placed in one of her empty eye sockets.
The perpetrators of this egregious crime against humanity laughed and pointed the camera at her exposed genitalia. They also made sure to show dozens of other corpses, joyfully trampling over them, laughing and cheering each other on as they went.
This video was not posted by ISIS. It was not posted by al-Qaeda, Hezbollah or the Taliban - all internationally recognized terrorist organizations. Instead, it was filmed and publicized by the official representatives of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces. It was initially posted on an Azeri-run Telegram page called “Khacherubka,” which translates from Russian, in which “khach” is a racist slur used to refer to Armenians, to “Armenian chopping board.” It quickly spread through Azerbaijani social media, gathering mass applause from tens of thousands of Azeris." Khach means Cross in Armenian.
During the invasion by Azerbaijan of the Armenian lands between September 13 and 14, an Armenian soldier named Anush Apetyan was captured alive by Azerbaijani forces alongside more than 10 Armenian soldiers captured alive, upon the Armenian Ministry of Defense.[3]
www.jpost.com/opinion/article-719504
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Anush_Apetyan
How do you think it is to live with these people (turkey and dictatorship azerbayjan) as your neighbors?
I mean just look at the t_urks history it's filled with war and bloodshed. It should give you a clue.
Armenian really got trouble ! Russian now not good - America and EU please help + Iran and Turkey involved . Really BS
Can be very bad future for Armenian.🙏😇☺️
I'm of the mind that wwiii isnt going to be one side versus another and more a domino fall of more groups taking advantage of chaos to engage in millitary adventures which leads to more chaos which leads to...you get the idea
I mean the sides has pretty much been formed already, it is pretty much all the Nato countries, Vs. All of the Anti Nato countries, lead by the BRICS countries.
These people DESPISE Nato and the thing is.... I don't even blame them for a second. Nato and the US really had their nose in so many things that don't concern them and made everything worse all the time. The only President in the last 30 years that DIDN'T start some new stupid war was Donald Trump.
Obama was just like.... Lets bomb Yemen... FOR PEACE! ....... I'm sorry what? Why?
And then removing leaders, creating power vacuums, that allowed fundamentalists to rise up who were FAR worse than the previous leaders and who HATES the west with a passion. And again for good reason... We bloody bombed their countries and still claim we are the good guys!
Most of the world HATES us, and it makes total sense why. In spite of that the leaders of the West is utterly blind to it. "Oh they love us over there, they will totally respect us and our culture."
...... Why would they ever respect us or our culture? We clearly don't respect theirs as we are trying to force our values on them and bomb countries... For peace....
yep i think you're absolutely right. it'll just be a collapse of the Pax Americana.
More like bronze age collapse
This is exactly how both world wars Started. But this time we have weapons that can cause human extinction within hours so let's not go there please?
That is a pretty good description of how WWII started as well actually
Your statement is critically incorrect - " Azerbaijan always had an upper hand". Karabag was under armenian accusation for nearly 20 years and Armenia had an upper hand. Do your homework and make your statement right!
This situation kind of reminds me of the Chaco War between Bolivia and Paraguay. 2 post-imperial countries that had a border dispute and ended up fighting over the land :/
One country actually has a long history in the region while the other is a made up relic of 20th-century pan-Turkism.
how diid that end?
@@mitch8072Paraguay got most of the disputed territory
and lost 1/3 o its male population@@Spacemongerr
@@mitch8072Like all wars involving Bolivia: a Bolivian loss (and they started it).
Thank you so much for covering this issue, which is almost never talked about in mainstream media... 🙏
YEAH THIS VIDEO DOESN'T TELL YOU THE TRUTH EITHER
RUSSIANS STILL IN LACHIN CORRIDOR AND
CSTO DOESN'T ACTIVATE IN DISPUTE LAND ONLY INTERNATIONAL RECOGNIZED BORDERS
@@mrboxheadd748Azerbaijan has also attacked the sovreign territory of the Republic of ARMENIA as well, and Putin and the CSTO have just silently watched it happen. This is a new GENOCIDE being executed on the Armenian people, after the one they are trying to say never happened in the late 1800s and 1915.
@@PhillMac RUSSIANS DID SEND FACT FINDING MISSION TO SEE WHO FIRED FIRST ARMENIA OR AZERBAIJAN
I GUESS THEY FOUND ARMENIA AT FAULT SHOOTING INTO AZERBAIJAN IN ORDER FOR THEM TO RETURN FIRE AND SO ARMENIAN CAN GET CSTO ACTIVATED
I BELIEVE IT BECAUSE AZERBAIJAN STILL HAS TO TAKE THE REST OF NAGORNO-KARABAKH SO WHY START A WAR WITH CSTO NOW AND LOSE EVERYTHING
AZERBAIJAN IS FULLY AWARE OF THE CSTO TREATY AND DOESN'T HELP WHEN ARMENIAN PM IS SOLELY BLAMING RUSSIA FOR FAILURES WHEN HE(PASHINYAN) IS SOLELY TO BLAME
It is nice to hear the story from Armenian side. Let’s see if we would hear any parts of truth on the Azerbaijani side of the story.
TLDR News has accidentally forgotten to tell :
Armenia has occupied 20% of Azerbaijan and caused 1 million Azeri refugees
What do you expect from Western people? Are they going to be equal and fair to easterns and Muslims instead of the victims of genocide and completely innocent Armenians who did nothing wrong in Azerbaijan and (historically) Turkey? Nah.
Hypocrisy of west knows no limit , he keeps using word "invasion" while Azerbaijan literally trying to get back UN RECOGNIZED lands of herself. Since when defending yourself is invasion ? then why west doesn't call Ukraine trying to get back its UN RECOGNIZED lands as invasion. They also trying to portray Azerbaijan as evil and associate them with Russia , Russia uses Z invades poor neighbour well look Azerbaijan does the same uses A invades poor neighbour. Western propoganda is cunning and sneaky thats why most of the peoples buys it.
For example when you ask a Russian " what do you think about your TV doing propoganda" he might still support it but he recognizes that it's a propoganda but when you ask to the EU or US their peoples they are like " what propoganda ?" lol thats exactly it :) .
@@AYTVOR No, in Armenia 15.000 Azerbaijanis lived and in Baku and Sumgayit, 800.000 Armenians lived, but Azeris killed them, All know the Genocide of Sumgayit.
@@AYTVOR True, all should be told, Armenia occupied more than Karabagh and caused massive amount of azeri refugees.
Also, Azeris refused to give independance to Karabagh despite the fact that the enclave's parliament voted in favor of uniting with Armenia in 1988. Also, Azeris started to make pogroms (massacres) against armenians as soon as 1989 (then massacres against Azeris followed during the subsequent war...).
it's quite different, Armenia and inhabitant of Karabagh never recognized Nagorno-Karabakh as an Azeri land (since 1990 and pogroms against armenians btw, same period where azerbaidjan got its independance), and indeed it never was (it's populated by a majority of armenians for thousands of years).
The ones destroying armenian heritage and ancient buildings are turks and azeris, not the opposite, especially in Nakhchivan, but there is no armenian remaining in Nakhchivan.
On February 20, 1988, the enclave's parliament voted in favor of uniting with Armenia. The demand to unify with Armenia, which began anew in 1988, began in a relatively peaceful manner.
Azerbaidjan didn't even exist in 1988 lmao
the enclave's parliament voted in favor of uniting with Armenia
I'll explain how things are now. Azerbaijan is actively restoring destroyed houses and historical monuments, as well as building new buildings. From time to time, Azerbaijan returns the refugees (Azerbaijanis) of the 90s back to their homes. The state also offers citizens of Armenian origin to return back to Karabakh, take Azerbaijani citizenship and live peacefully. But it is not profitable for Armenia, because now Armenia has a chance to somehow increase its population.
Eh... really? :D I don't care about Azeris or Armenians and their strungle, but I can smell shit in your post. Take your honey moon story with ya and sell it to someone without a brain kiddo.
Last part is completely wrong, Armenians fled Karabakh for the same reasons Azerbaijanis did in the 90's. Because most Armenians do not want to live in a state that actively hates them.
Enclaves don't work when both sides hate each other. The current map will change
It's also worth noting that Azerbaijan is an increasingly important country to the EU since Azerbaijan has started supplying gas to the EU, replacing some of the gas cut-off from Russia.
If Azerbaijan did invade Armenia, any European response would have to consider the Azerbaijani reaction too.
@Intreoo, The amount of gas Azerbaijan sends the EU is quite small. It accounts for a very small percentage of what Europe imports. It isn't nearly enough of a figure to have any effect on EU foreign policy.
The reason EU won't respond isn't the gas, they won't respond because they can't respond? Aside from a condemnation what exactly can they do? They don't have the military capability to get there let alone do something about it.
I don't think the Azeris give a rat's arse what Europe thinks. I don't think the Armenians are stupid enough to believe Europe will change the outcome of anything for them.
Really, so you guys are totally fine to warm your houses with our Armenian blood??
Armenia is the first Christian country, Indo-European nation, natives of Armenian Highland. Modern Turkey is used to be Kingdom of Armenia and Greece in antient times. Nowdays Armenia is a small, democratic country with European values. Azerbaijan is a Muslim country and they are ethnic Turks whose ancestors invaded Armenian Highland, Anatolia and Caucasus in 11 century. Azerbaijan is one of the wors dictatorships in the world where vice president is president's wife and Aliyev inherited the "trone" from his father and rules the country over 25 years. Exactly a year ago Azerbaijan invaded Republic of Armenia, after two years of occupying Artsakh (Nagorno Karabakh).
Azerbaijan claims all of Armenia is "historic Azerbaijan" and has already invaded Republic of Armenia after occupying Artsakh (Nagorno Karabakh).
"On September 14 2022, a gruesome video began circulating on social media. The video showed a naked woman - Anush Apetyan, a mother of three - whose legs and fingers had been chopped off and her eyes gouged out. One of her fingers was stuck in her mouth and a stone was placed in one of her empty eye sockets.
The perpetrators of this egregious crime against humanity laughed and pointed the camera at her exposed genitalia. They also made sure to show dozens of other corpses, joyfully trampling over them, laughing and cheering each other on as they went.
This video was not posted by ISIS. It was not posted by al-Qaeda, Hezbollah or the Taliban - all internationally recognized terrorist organizations. Instead, it was filmed and publicized by the official representatives of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces. It was initially posted on an Azeri-run Telegram page called “Khacherubka,” which translates from Russian, in which “khach” is a racist slur used to refer to Armenians, to “Armenian chopping board.” It quickly spread through Azerbaijani social media, gathering mass applause from tens of thousands of Azeris." Khach means Cross in Armenian.
During the invasion by Azerbaijan of the Armenian lands between September 13 and 14, an Armenian soldier named Anush Apetyan was captured alive by Azerbaijani forces alongside more than 10 Armenian soldiers captured alive, upon the Armenian Ministry of Defense.[3]
www.jpost.com/opinion/article-719504
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Anush_Apetyan
They are selling Russian Oil! And are Genocidal (past and present). Shameful where the priorities lie.
@@BeautySavesWorld You do realize that no one cares about that right? Ukraine is not getting support because someone cares about people, but because the American elite has a lot to lose if the Ukraine were to fall.
@@BeautySavesWorld I don't know where you got this information; perhaps from Armenian schoolbooks where they teach you about history. From this information, one might infer that Armenia is older than Greece. That's an interesting perspective.
Let me provide some enlightenment on the Nagorno-Karabakh (Artsakh) issue. If Nagorno Karabakh has been a disputable area, why did this happen: 'The Armenian-occupied territories surrounding Nagorno-Karabakh were areas of Azerbaijan, situated outside the former Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast (NKAO), which were occupied by the ethnic Armenian military forces of the breakaway Republic of Artsakh (or the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic) with military support from Armenia, from the end of the First Nagorno-Karabakh War (1988-1994) to 2020'?
I agree; I have seen this photo. But I actively follow Armenian Telegram channels where I have seen the same things, more brutal or less. It doesn't matter; it happens in every war. So at least our soldiers killed someone who was armed. But in the first Nagorno-Karabakh War, you killed children, pregnant women, old people. Did you forget about The Khojaly massacre. (The Khojaly massacre was the mass killing of Azerbaijani civilians by Armenian forces and the 366th CIS regiment in the town of Khojaly on 26 February 1992. The event became the largest single massacre throughout the entire Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. Khojaly was an Azerbaijani-populated town of some 6,300 people in the Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast of Azerbaijan SSR, also housing the region's only airport in 1992. The town was subject to daily shelling and total blockade by Armenian forces during the First Nagorno-Karabakh War. Without a supply of electricity, gas, or water, it was defended by the local forces consisting of about 160 lightly armed men. The Armenian forces, along with some troops of the 366th CIS regiment, launched an offensive in early 1992, forcing almost the entire Azerbaijani population of the enclave to flee and committing 'unconscionable acts of violence against civilians' as they fled.)
It's important to note that Karabakh is recognized by all countries as a part of Azerbaijan, not Armenia and no one recognized latest president elections in 'Artsakh'.
Here is the references. All things that I have mentioned is true facts and I only use trustable sources not local history books.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian-occupied_territories_surrounding_Nagorno-Karabakh
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khojaly_massacre
I also think it’s interesting to note that it was actually a war in 2014 but Russia intervened very quickly… in 2020 they were much slower even drawing international outcry to step in and this was well before their invasion of Ukraine. I’m sure part of it was Geopolitics but in 2018 Armenia also elected a new leader who was a bit more western oriented/less of the Russian sphere. I always found it interesting the difference in Russian response after that it always made me wonder if Putin was perhaps much less willing to fulfill his obligation when the leader was not as friendly…. But yeah I’m deeply concerned for Armenia, they just want to be left alone and live and this century old land dispute (that the Soviet Union could’ve resolved and never did) is basically a ticking time bomb. It may not be tomorrow but I don’t see how full invasion isn’t coming.
I was actually impressed with how they managed things in 2020, considering that they were kind of late, and they even got their helicopter taken down. They ended up involving Turkey just a little bit, but they were still the main broker. But whatever Azerbaijan decides to do now, Armenia will be at their mercy. Russia won't be able to do a thing about it.
Of course a westerner christian is supporting Armenia and seeing them as the oppressed here. "But yeah I’m deeply concerned for Armenia, they just want to be left alone" if they want to be left alone they had so many opportunities to make peace, to un-occupy Azerbaijani territory, but they don't and they don't want to cease their invasion in Azerbaijan without force. So Azerbaijan is the bad guy for trying to get their lands back from Armenian invaders? Oh poor you, you must be so concerned about the poor old invaders. The reason their invasion was successful was because they had Russia behind their back. Now Turkey is behind Azerbaijan, and Armenia won't be able to terrorize them any longer. Justice will be served, hot or cold. That is Azerbaijan's choice now.
Putin doesn't support anyone but puppets. But now he's pretty much a puppet of China. Without China he's done.
It sounds crazy, but the only sensible way for Armenia to "be left alone" in this geography is to have a deal with turks, which armenians completely refuse.
No matter what Russia does it is always the bad guy! Russia did fantastic in 2020, it did intervene to make the two sit down and talk peace, it kinda forced them to stop the war, it did also warn that it will intervene if either countries tries to invade the other, karabakh is a different story as both countries have legit reasons to claim it at theirs, those who have made the war possible are western and Nato countries, Armenia's government was backed by the west since the revolution of 2014, and Azerbaijan was fully supported by the strongest nato countries in the region, Turkey and Israel. But smh Russia is to blame, when they were the ones to stop the war TWICE, and those who have fed the war are now blaming it all on Russia!!!
The only thing that stopped the lunatics from involving their citizens into a full scale bloody war was the Russian influence, the west saw that Russia is pretty much occupied now and they started to put gas on the fire.
Russia isn't always the bad guy, it has been the good guy many times in history, the west isn't always right and have caused many wars and disasters in countless countries.
Stop seeing everything as black or white.
You can look at those borders, knowing nothing else, and realize that this situation was never going to be sustainable.
yeah, its only a matter of time, one side gonna give
5:47 It's not an upside down A; It's a crossed out V. The Azeris are also using a crossed out Z as thier military symbol. They are basically using the Russian symbols.
Why would they tho, Russia supported Armenia for the longest time and still would if they weren't busy
@@bugrasevinc9696 Not true. Russia has continued to use this conflict as a way to keep Armenia weak and dependent while supplying armaments to Azerbaijan. On paper they say they are Armenia's ally, in reality they are not.
@@bugrasevinc9696 Oh yea, Putin is also more interested in Azerbaijan since they both are dictatorships. Armenia also used to have one, but it was overthrown in 2018 during the Vevlet Revolution. Another objective Putin has is using the conflict as a way to destabilize the parliamentary republic established in 2018 and allow the previous regime to re-establish its control.
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Armenia = Russia’s side
Azerbaijan = Ukraine’s side
@@bugrasevinc9696 I believe the relationship between Russia and Azerbaijan is greatly misunderstood in the West. Russia might have a great relationship with Armenia but that doesn't mean they don't also have one with Azerbaijan. Russia and Azerbaijan are quite close. Maybe not as close as Azerbaijan and Turkey but close enough. A significant number of ethnic Russians live in Azerbaijan and a significant number of ethnic Azeris live in Russia. Do you really believe Azerbaijan would have welcomed the presence of Russian peacekeepers if they really believed that Russia supported Armenia in the war. Come on! The 3 countries are ex-Soviet States and they have a complex past and as such a complex relationship. Russia intervened diplomatically in the last conflict to prevent unnecessary bloodshed and to help develop a path to peace, which they did. Unfortunately, Armenia is currently refusing to honor the tri-lateral agreement they signed together with Russia and Azerbaijan. According to the agreement, Armenia should relinquish most of Nagorno-Karabakh to Azerbaijan.
This is misleading. when Armenia first took the region. they didn't stop at the parts that were predominantly Armenian, they also took all the surrounding Azeri parts and they forced out Azeris from the area. Roughly 700 thousand Azeri's were kicked out of their homes if I recall. Taking the territory back was also about returning people to their homes.
because they were attacked so they took better positions to defend themselves
@@Dutch_Engineer_Piff_Dahnk no ome attacked to them. Nagorno-Karabakh fake region was created by ussr, in 1991 we removed it because we never wanted to do it. Ussr gave it to armenians.
@y_a_1904_ if they gave it to Armenians why isn't it part of Armenia?
@@Dutch_Engineer_Piff_Dahnk nagorno karabakh autonomy region was created by ussr. This is why they seperated from Azerbaijan in 1991 with opportunity of soviet's autonomy. It was Azerbaijani land and was recognized as de-facto in Paris peace conference in 11/01/1920
@y_a_1904_ if russia gave it to armenia why isn't it part of armenia?
Armenia didn't send "arms" to Ukraine. They sent humanitarian aid to Ukraine a few days ago. Armenia itself needs arms to defend itself against azerbaijan and turkey.
If Armenia wants to defend itself against us Turks, it must correct the stupid laws in its constitution that claim rights on the lands of the Republic of Turkey and the Republic of Azerbaijan and say that they will establish a great Armenia, otherwise it will take 3 days for the Republic of Turkey and the Republic of Azerbaijan to occupy the entire territory of Armenia
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What a way to lie 🤔 This guy telling not less than 70% LIES 🤥
TLDR avoided to tell you that #Karabakh is internationally recognized integral part of #Azerbaijan
You never really know how a war will end once it starts.
I agree but superior Israeli tech combined with Turkish drones against a outdated Armenian army - we can see the writing on the wall
Dont worry as a turk(🇹🇷) i know my people(🇦🇿)
They would only take karabağ and a bit land from armenia not a big land only ekvator side of armenia and it would only be for a few meters long (so azerbajian can have a connection with its land that in turkiyes side) but i know turks and azerbajian wont attack armanias main cities or that type places because it only gonna bring blood and chaos
in order make that places safe for azerbajian to controp or own they need to do genocide (which is like biggest crime for turks and if they do genocide even azeri turks or turkiye woulndt support azerbajian so they woulndt do or dare to do genocide)
So as long as armenia doesnt attack azerbajian armenians are safe😊
@@Minposu123 You know them ? You know of the genocides done by your ancestors then ? Armenian genocide, Assyrian genocide, Pontic greeks genocide ? Also, how is the situation in Cyprus ?
Bi savaş başlarsa sonuçta zafer Türk halkının olur❤
If Ajerbaijan wasn't an petrol-state the west would treat it like Russia
And they should.
@@spectre8_fulcrumIf west was that good then earth would have a half paradise
doesnt mean azer and russia is better than the west @@TruthSeeker8834
@@spectre8_fulcrum Armenia literally took land from Azerbaijan which is Internationally recognised. So Armenia is 100% fault in here.
While Russia has only one condition. Don't have any enemy military alliance in the neighbouring country which i think fair for the small, weak countries.
Sure they are wrong but they didn’t initiated the conflict.
ethnic armenians live there, and the people living there wanted to be a part of armenia, not azer. bloodthirsty azer were the one who started killing@@TruthSeeker8834
Well we could blame on person, Stalin for creating this messy lines thinking he could reunite the Soviet Union after his death
Yes, shame on azerbaijan and Stalin.
@@seradar5000 azerbaijan? Azerbaijan was enemy of stalin
The more important question is:
Why did Armenia occupy Azerbaijan for 32 years?
Its not Azerbaijan all of them are christian Armenians
@@Y2kedward the land.
@@shafsteryellow Armenian land.
@@Y2kedward lol dream on
It never was Azerbaijan….It has been Armenian lands for thousands of years until Turkic people from Central Asia migrated west to the Caucasus, Anatolia, and the Middle East. Hence why Turkey exists in Anatolia and why Azerbaijan exists in the caucasus today. Most of the South Caucasus historically belongs to Armenia
Sounds like every country needs to review their Russian authored pacts and treaties…
Why all csto countries recognise it as azeri territory... they've all pleaded with Armenia to grant them the southern corridor even that they turned down..
What about comparisons to the Kosovo situation? To me it seems like it's quite similar, except that NATO didn't bomb Azerbaijan.
Kosovo din't atack serbia in 1992, Azerbaijan got attacked by armenia in 1992
Kosovo still has serbians in it but honestly, we are talking about AR en AZ
Go fight Albanians somewhere else because I can't be bothered@@BluEclipse94
@@BluEclipse94 Kosovo tried to give Serbia its serbian majority area for the albanian majority area in serbia but serbia refused.
Also my original point still stands, Armenia is the agressor
@@SwimmingClass1922 Similar unlawful secession tho.
@@SwimmingClass1922 INCORRECT. Like the video said, NK held a referendum (peaceful and democratic, as per observers from the time, unlike DoNbAs).
One year later, Azerbaijan attacked Nagorno-Karabakh. Armenians have never once in this conflicted initiated violence.
It's laughable how much trolling is going on.
Look:
Armenia not living any other Nationalities.
On the middle of Turkish population lands but no Azeri or turk living there .
Not only Turks Azeris also no other nationalities
Why?
Because they don't want muslim sheets on their territory! Muslims is always a problem in every Christian country...
There are a small amount of Kurds, Yezidis, and Assyrians in Armenia.
Also what do you mean by "Turkish population lands" when Turkey isn't even Turkish land. If you look at it by single ethnic groups, Greeks were a majority or plurality in Istanbul, Izmir, Trabzon and all of Eastern Thrace until 1915. Armenians were a majority of plurality in most of Eastern Anatolia except the coast around Trabzon which again was predominantly Greek. Baku wasn't even majority Azerbaijani until after 1920. There were 2.5 million Greeks and 1.8 million Armenians in Turkey now combined there's less than 100k you tell me why. You can also tell me why the percentage of every minority group in Azerbaijan from the lezgins to Georgians, to talyish, to the Armenians has continuously dropped for 100 years? You know since Azerbaijan is SOOOO accepting of other cultures.
A few corrections and food for thought:
1. Armenia captured Nagorno-Karabakh and 7 surrounding towns and kept it for 30 years; no one cared.
2. Azerbaijan did not INVADE anyone, since it was operating to regain its own internationally recognized territory, which was illegally kept under occupation for 30 years.
3. All of the Azerbaijani population of Nagorno-Karabakh, its surrounding regions, and all of Armenia were ethnically cleansed. Hence the "referendum" you're talking about in your video is seriously under question. With the same logic, Azerbaijanis of Zangazur (now Syunik in Armenian), who were forcefully cleansed from the region, could hold a "referendum" and claim independence the same way.
4. The Western world has never approached the issue with objectivity due to diaspora influence on local politics (such as France and the U.S.A.) as well as "Christian brotherhood" factors. You can easily see the one-sided statements from them all the time, which are somehow always skipped by the "internet storytellers".
5. Armenians of Armenia are pretty much hostages of the external influence of the bigger players, as well as their diaspora, which is a huge political and financial machine in itself, that don't let the countries settle their differences and live in peace after all. These people have lived side by side for literally at least 1,000 years and will be neighbors for the foreseeable future. Think about it, without conflict, Russia has no say in the region, Iran cannot be the biggest transit route for Armenia, France cannot influence Armenia as much, the U.S.A. (especially California congressmen) cannot exploit voters, and the Armenian diaspora pretty much loses its reason to exist.
This is even more tragic considering what a vast empire Armenia used to be at some points in history.
Controlling all of Syria, parts of Turkey, Iudea (Israel), Georgia, Azerbaijan and more.
😂 armenia empire? What you smoking 🍆
Every nation was big once
When did Armenia control Israel and Syria???
I guess this part of a history was only taught in Armenian history classes!!
@@Minposu123I can think of a few where that isn't true.
So Armenia hosts joint military exercises with NATO, sends help to Ukraine and in the same time is hoping that Russia will come to their aid? A bit of cognitive dissonance, so to say.
you got the last part wrong, armenia isn't hoping for russias help at all, Russia has backstabbed us and never helped us, they sold weapons to azeris and they are pretty much on azeris side (because they're with turkey now and turkey is basically brother of azeri), Armenia is fully trying to lean on to the west now but it is hard to do it instantly or we will become another ukraine and this time russia will really mess us up...
@@AtarahMataArmenia is not a democracy 😂
@@İYldz67Bro, Armenia is a dual-executive system, they have a Prime Minister *&* President. Wdym "Armenia is not a democratic country"?
Azerbaijan has every right to retake their internationally recognised territory in Nagorno-Karabakh from the illegal occupiers. However, I would not support direct military action into mainland Armenia.
No one would. Turkey made their military equipment sales on that condition and that's why csto is not obligated to help because Azerbaijan hasn't attacked any Armenian territory
Hi.
First of all if UN recognizes a land to another country,it doesnt mean it is part of the country. Because if it were to be a part of azerbaijan,the population would be filled by azeris and not Armenians. So when the land was given to azerbaijan, Armenians got furious and retaliated and got the land back by force.
@@AramBasmadjian-wz1wj Keep crying 🇦🇲🤡
@@AramBasmadjian-wz1wjand now they're gonna lose it by force. Best thing is to ensure human rights are observed in the area and accept that Armenia lacks the power to keep the land...
@alexandroferreirafreitas9420 UN has already sent a team of peacekeepers but they aren't doing anything, I didn't expect anything else from UN
The title feels like its misleading. According to international law, the region of Karabakh is a part of Azerbaijan. As of right now, all of Azerbaijan's military operations are taking place inside Azerbaijan. Armenia is not being invaded. Armenian troops *inside* Azerbaijan are being attacked. These are facts.
Lemme get my two cents on the current situation:
I think that Nagorno Karabak IS apart of Azerbaijan; It's recognized as such from most countries. HOWEVER, I do NOT support Azerbaijan preparing for an invasion of Armenia. Ever since Azerbaijan took back most of Nagorno Karabak in 2020, Aliyev (Azerbaijani Leader) has shown his true Colors, and has said multiple times that most/all of Armenia should belong to Azerbaijan and has said that "Armenia as a nation has never existed". Their proof for this is that in the past 500 years ago a Persian Muslim state existed where Modern day Armenia and Azerbaijan is. That's all the proof that they have. Azerbaijan has been constantly attacking Armenia since 2020 in the south area of Armenia, and ever since they gained independence from the Soviets Azerbaijan has been destroying countless Armenian gravesites, churches, et cetera, and this has increased alot since Aliyev took power.
Aliyev may SAY that "The Armenians are fine in our state, it's just the Armenian government brainwashing them to be against Azerbaijan" but in reality He wants a greater Azerbaijan (Most of Armenia + Iranian Azerbaijan) that is only inhabited with Azerbaijanis, where the Armenians are discriminated against and (possibly) displaced.
Right now, countless schools in Azerbaijan teach that Armenians are "savages" and "hypocrites" which obviously is well... Untrue.
I really don't wanna call Azerbaijan Fascist, but it's scarily close. Especially with Alyiev's hatred of Ethnic Minorities, mythicizing a "greater" azerbaijani past, them playing both the victim and the agressor, among other minor things.
Like Legit, the ONLY reasons why the west is supporting Azerbaijan is because of Russia's invasion of Ukraine causing the West to beg for Azerbaijani Gas, and also because of Turkey being in NATO. Sorry for my rant, It's just worrying seeing all of these "Azerbaijan is finally connecting up with its fellow turks" nonsense
IIRC Armenia invaded due to Azerbaijan smacking pro Armenian protests in their area with Riot control & other fun and fucked up things.
While it's technically fucked up to invade & annex another nation's territory...
...Yeah Azerbaijan treats minorities like shit. Got that from Papi USSR I guess.
The Ukraine begged the EU to keep buying Russian gas, because the transit fees were an important source of income for the Ukraine. (They also used to siphon off some of that gas to sell at market value to Bulgaria, with Russia compensating for the difference.)
So now the EU keeps buying Russian gas, but from Azerbaijan, at higher cost, but with the Ukraine not getting any transit fees.
All to support the Ukraine in the war against Russia, of course.
Im shocked that even TLDR would try and explain this conflict in 8 minutes. Shit is like millenia old.
A- for effort ig
I mean, sort of, but basically everything before 1991 can be summed up with: Armenians and Azeris are mixed together in the region and they hate each other.
Ethnic groups that hate each other being geographically co-mingled is common enough that Westerners don't really care whose ancestors invaded who, or who launched a crusade/jihad against the other several hundred years ago. We just chalk that up to "they have been killing each other for a long time" and start looking for when the paperwork (i.e. treaties, imperial provincial law, declarations of independence, etc.) starts.
Appreciate the efforts to explain the situation in a short video, but it's really oversimplified. I understand that it's quite hard to give info about a multi-layered, hundred years old conflict happening in a very diverse part of the world, however, it would be great to say or note this by "this isn't and/or may not be the whole precise picture"
Bro, actually this topic doesn require deep research. There are simple facts to be addressed firstly, as those lands belong to Azerbaijan and even Armenia itself doesn recognize seperatist state.
If everyone starts claiming ownership on the lands which their ancestors allegedly lived thousands years ago what would happen in the world 😂
simply, armenians like russians want s to occupy Azerbaijani lands by playing ethnic minority card which is fated to fail. All world knows armenia is ally of Russia, and by support of Russia they could hold those lands under occupation, as russia gets weaker day by day and becoming more dependant on Turkiye, Armenian seperatist entity doesn stand a chance against modernized NATO style Azerbaijani army :)
@@AtarahMata Russia wouldn let it.. don't believe these tales. Russia is in control of even current "pro Western" government. Armenian "western" president helping russians to build military equipments to kill ukranians. As sanctions don't let russians import some important goods directly, they do it through armenian companies. As a result economical relations between two countries doubled, tripled in last years which is statistical fact.
Armenians can't go against Russians interests, it is only Show is crafted by russians to escape sansctions.
They should liberate Palestine from jewhadists instead of this
No,it is Azerbaijan who is aligned with Russia currently.You oversimplification leads to a huge mistake.Russia pressures Pashinyan via Alıyev.
Update: about 2 hours before I'm posting this Azerbaijan has launched an offensive in Nagorno-Karabakh.
The title of this video should be:
“Will Iran invade Azerbaijan”
From geopolitical standpoint, with Iran, USA, Russia, India, France behind Armenia, there is no way Azerbaijan can invade Armenia.
Persian wet dream 😅 If you want to be destroyed by Türkiye, try it.
50 million South Azerbaijanis laugh at your comment😂
Bro💀 EU NATO and USA is behind Ukraine but did they do something about invasion of Ukraine?
Any thoughts on whether this will spill into Georgia? Sorry I am unfamiliar with this region and about to head to Tbilisi.
There will be conflict in Georgia but not for a few more years.
Armenia is more closely aligned with Moscow than Azerbaijan. Azerbaijan is a western ally. It's not hard to see who will side with who.
Don't worry, Georgia is a benefactor of the Turkey/Azerbaijan and Armenia bad blood.
No Georgia should be 100% safe from the war, just stay away from the border just in case of missed strikes, tbilisi is not gonna feel anything tho
Georgia lost two provinces to Russia in 1993 (South Ossetia, Abhazia)... here the Tsjetsjens were involved.
Georgia had been more aligned with the West, close ties with Nato and the EU even.
Armenia is more on the Russian side, they counted on Russia to help them keep Nagorno Karabach.
Azerbeidjan is backed by Turkey which is also in Nato.
I guess Georgia would be like Ukraine, if they mess with it Nato will help from the sidelines with intel and weapons...
Armenia is more like Belarus... or Serbia... not very popular with Nato, more aligned with Russia...
My thoughts on this are about the same with Karabakh as with Ukraine - If A country is too weak to defend self-proclaimed territory itself and relies on outside help ,Its Simply too weak to exist and should concede the land. Survival of the fittest.
so if someone breaks into your house and points a gun at you, you should not exist because "survival of the fittest"? You support ethnic cleansing because "survival of the fittest"?
Which Azerbaijan vs Armenian war is this one? I lost count a few yeass ago.
This is just a mess IMO as this region is full of a lot of ethnic groups that are just scattered but were under different bigger powers centuries ago like with Mongols I think, Ottomans and then Russia - after the USSR collapsed they became too unstable and just like in Yugoslavia it became aggressive which lands these eventual countries will have when they aren't independent for more than maybe even a millennium ago; there needs to be a long term peace agreement with this like between Greece and Turkey, albeit it may also need population swapping which is seen unfavorably now.
How on earth Azerbaijan is “invading”. Itself? Change it to reclaiming it’s sovereignty.
One more thing about russia helping in 2020. Russia helped after 40 days of war, beacuse they didnt want to really help. their main goal is not let anyone really win, so they can hve their troops in that region. they do not really care what will happened expecet that.
Not mentioning that Putin hates Pashinyan and is freind with Aliev
IN fact Armenian Russian Wagner Army did involved , supporting Armenian army in 2020 war sent by Kremlin pro Armenian
I'd expect they'd rather not station troops there.
Nobody cares who wins a war that _doesn't_ break out.
Did armenia invade 20 percent of Azerbaijan with huge support of russia between 1991-2020? Karabagh is not disputed area. It is part of Azerbaijan.
Russia didnt help Armenia in the first War. We took our lands by ourselves,unlike you puppets of Turkey
Tldr really is the only news Channel i go to
so much wrong information. Karabagh is officially recognised as part of Azerbaijan by every country in the world. In recent fights Azerbaijan never invaded parts of Armenia, in fact 20% Azerbaijan was invaded by Armenia since early 90s. You should mention this too. Azerbaijan basically got their land back.
I love watching your videos however, this time your video is somehow missing the comprehensive information and somehow biased.
Karabagh is self proclaimed country not recognised by any other country but Armenia.
Edit: even Armenia says that it is Azerbaijani soil. Ask Pashinyan (Armenian president) if you’re in doubt
There have been some intrusions from azeri units actually but okei …
Azeris massacred Armenians in 1989, and refused to give independance to Karabagh despite the fact that the enclave's parliament voted in favor of uniting with Armenia in 1988, legally. Azeris started to make pogroms (massacres) against armenians as soon as 1989 (then massacres against Azeris followed during the subsequent war...).
Armenia and inhabitant of Karabagh never recognized Nagorno-Karabakh as an Azeri land (since 1990 and pogroms against armenians btw, same period where azerbaidjan got its independance), and indeed it never was (it's populated by a majority of armenians for thousands of years).
The ones destroying armenian heritage and ancient buildings are turks and azeris, not the opposite, especially in Nakhchivan, but there is no armenian remaining in Nakhchivan.
On February 20, 1988, the enclave's parliament voted in favor of uniting with Armenia. The demand to unify with Armenia, which began anew in 1988, began in a relatively peaceful manner.
Azerbaidjan didn't even exist in 1988 lmao
Well... Didn't know that you could see the future. I don't want to pick a side over the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, but I highly condemn the use of force (unless you are defending yourself like the Ukraine actually). I don't care that the Artsakh Republic is not recognized by anyone, the fact is that people were living in it in peace. It is a de facto state (being recognized or not is not important in my head) and you just can't crush a state like that. In my opinion, the best option will be an UN-supervised referendum where the people of Artsakh could decide beetween three options, independence in accordance with the principle of the self-dermination of people, join Armenia or join Azerbaijan with increased autonomy. No people should be forced into a contry they don't want to be a part of, even more when it is by force.
Well said! I wish Azerbaijan would be honest and say they just want to steal the land instead of lying all the time and claiming it as theirs. After thousands of years of Armenians living there, it was made an autonomous oblast that was, unfortunately attached to Azerbaijan by the Russians. THAT is only Azari claim. A stupid hurtful decision by the Russians. HOW does that make it Azeri land by any moral standard? When the Soviet Union collapsed they chose to join Armenia through a vote, not bombs. Why wouldn't they? Azerbaijan authorities treated the Armenians there horribly. When the USSR collapsed, the Armenians were the majority and voted. Then Azerbaijan attacked them to take the land outright. The Armenians did well in that war and defended themselves. But the drone tech from Israel and Turkey, developed by the US, and hired mercenaries changed the outcome in the 2020 war, and it didn't hurt that Trump was bribed by both Turkey and Azerbaijan to not complain. (They paid Trump to build a hotel in Azerbaijan and paid Trump to rename a hotel in Istanbul. Also, don't forget, Azerbaijan starved the region for over 200 days before they attacked in 2023. Kill people from afar and take the land you never had a claim to. Pathetic. And yet they are proud.
What you are implying is total bullshit. It's impossible to give every fuckong enthnicity a self-proclamation. Then, we would have thousands of countries in the world
Thank you for the video TDLR News.
I just wanted to add some notes and correct some points you made.
Azerbaijan did nit attack Armenia in both of the wars. Azerbaijan is just trying to take back control over the region that is his.
Azerbaijan will never attack Armenia not because of the international reaction to it but also there is no need and motivation for that.
As an Azerbaijani i can say that Azerbaijanis want peace and the government is not interested in getting a huge target to the economy.
You should have also spoke about the fact that in first Karabakh war Armenia not only attacked Nogorno Karabakh but also surrounding territories where the majority are Azerbaijanis.
The war is over and Azerbaijan regained its territories back.
Hopefully, Armenians living in Karabakh and Azerbaijanis learn to live together again. As it was before.
Please look to the issue from both perspectives and try to communicate with people from both sides who are educated and will speak with facts.
P.S. The “occupied” word you used was not correct and every single country in UN even Armenia recognizes Karabakh as a part of Azerbaijan.
Thank you again.
You may contact me if information is needed.
Everyone, even Azerbaijan recognizes the occupied by turks part of Cyprus as part of the official Cyprus, the whole island as one.
But no one decided to use the army to take back the control of the occupied northern part.
That's the difference between civilized world and barbarina Azeris.
I don't expect from barbarian azeris to know that, but I expect them to stop trying to convince anyone that they are "civilized"
@@hamlet557 we are civilized enough.
At least we were not the ones to displace around 1 million Azerbaijanis and kill thousands of civilians during first Karabakh War.
We took what is rightfully ours and again we will do our best to reintegrate with the Armenians there.
I understand War is bad. But it is sometimes necessary.
@@ismaylnamazov
You don't even know what civility is.
And after seeing so many videos of YOU azeris posting dead bodies of armenians, I'm very sure what "intergration" means for your murderous nation. Maybe you start to respect the people you killed, because right now you are too barbarians to do even that!!!!
If you look at the comments, only azeris and turks agree with you.
And again, if you look at the comments, Azeris and Turks often reveal their true nature: murder, ethnic cleansing, pride of killing people.
That's your culture. It's disgusting, I'm ashamed that humanity didn't reach that part of the world.
I hope at least that all this bloodthirsty mentality stays within Azerbaijan and all visa applications to EU would be denied.
Also give refugee status to all armenians from Nagorno, instead of m*slims.
Unfortunately that's all I can do. It's a sad world.
Barbarians can win battles, but they can't build civilization or liveable cities.
I can’t believe I’ve heard zero coverage about this in the United States. Thanks for this story.
It isn't really important enough on a global stage for there to be much news about it here.
It is super interesting but not exactly big news.
@@williamdavis9562I unfortunately see plenty of news coverage for sports and celebrity garbage. This is easily more important than that.
Typical American😂
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Yes this is 100x more important than who some random singer is dating.
But unfortunately what who a singer is dating tends to get much higher ratings than something like this.
Also even if the media did cover it, we know they'll base it on what the state department wants you to think and you'll get an extremely false narrative on the issue anyway. So instead of knowing nothing about the issue, you'd probably walk away with a warped and untrue version of what is happening.
If they don't feel an issue is important enough for them to take the energy to lie to us about it, they won't cover it. This is one of those situations.
It is just the way our entire system of disseminating information is unfortunately.
@@williamdavis9562but why is Kosovo and Serbia more important?
And this is why you need to keep spending on your military and have good relations with your neighbors
None of those were ever in Armenia’s control. The country was too poor from day one to afford a decent military budget of any kind. And all of Armenia’s neighbors are either sworn enemies, or negligent abusers who simply keep them on a chain for their own interests.
maybe they shouldn't have invaded Azerbijan in 1992?@@bullmoosevelt4495
See: Ukraine. Nuclear disarmament has cost them dearly.
@@bullmoosevelt4495Armenia was strong at the beginning and they attack Azerbaijan first
they attacked becuase Azerbaijan besieged Stepankert and began to starve the people to death while also bombing civilians
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Even Armenian prime minister recognized Garabag as Azerbaijan land but you can't understand. GARABAG AND Abxaziya conflict started after Georgia and Azerbaijan rejected any Russian troop in their land. But Armenia created 2 military Russian base in Armenia. In this way Armenian and Russian troops killed numerous innocents in Georgia in Azerbaijan. Actually no one country in the world Don take care od ordinary peoples life in both side. They just follow their business interest. EU union or France or Russia have a tendency to control region in a pressure and got all sources. But as ordinary people Armenian or Azerbaijan people only need peace. We just want stabile economy and improved industry under the control of international rules.
No. Armenian Prime Minister didn't recognise Artsakh as part of Turkish Azerbaijan. Artsakh is part of Kingdom of Armenia on all ancient maps and we live there from the beginning. Nikol Pashinyan said IF you take your troops out of Republic of Armenia then he will recognise. Because you invaded Armenia proper in Jermuk, Syuniq and Vayots Dzor provinvies and keep on shooting and killing civilians he had no choice but to let Artsakh go and fight for its independence so Republic of Armenia can be free. But Azerbaijan rejected that offer and your rtroops are still in Armenia proper and killing and kidnapping our people.
You want peace and stability but you want to have it on our lands and on us. We are democratic society, Indo-European, Christian nation with European values and we are indigenous to Armenian highland. Yet, you , ethnic Turks of Islamic dictatorship of Azerbaijan kidnap, behead, gang rape our people and claim you want peace and stability. If you really want it let us live freely on our ancestral lands!
Then why you guys are pressing on Armenia to give up so called “zangezur corridor” an extraterritorial corridor within Armenian recognized territory wich will not be controlled by Armenia any more.
All we want is dignified peace and stability. We’re ready to open borders for trade there’s no need of extraterritorial corridors.
@@suren2313 More over, Georgia and Iran are happy to give corridor but Azerbaijan and Russia insist on Syuniq corridor because they want to divide Armenia, for Syuniq to be occupied by Azerbaijan and for the rest of Armenia without borders to Iran to become Russian gubernia
No one really talking about the fact that azerbejan never existed before 1918. It was a made up country by Joseph Stalin to house the mongol-turkic tribes mixed with Persians. And then Gifted Artsakh and Nakhichevan to this newly created country because Stalin's wife was pro-azeei. And also the Russians always make decisions to appease the turks. Armenia is currently 29,800sq km in size when previously it was up to 300,000sq km. Armenians liberated their Artsakh in a fair fight in early 90s but Armenia failed to push international organisations for recognition.
LMAOOO. Thats the funniest joke ever heard. like Armenia ever existed before 1918 ? read about the articles how Russian Tsar is moving the Armenians to caucasians so that they could cut the connection between Turkey and other Turkic countries.
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@@Öylesine-u2y what's so funny?
Turkiye was never existed before 1923, it means our people came to earth from mars? Average armenian brain be like. All of your informations are fake and lie. Stalin didn't give any land to us. He was friend of levon mirzoyan and stepan shaumyan whcih our land Khankendi was changed to stepanakert by Stalin.
@@Khacmaz_edits the region that is now called azerbejan and turkey were not historically turkic. turkic people came in waves from central Asia (Altai mountains) under Seljuk rule after 11th century AD making them invaders. I didn't say they came from Mars. The people living in these regions are not necessarily turkic by DNA, only linguistically in recent times due to the strong Pan-turkic political movement. On the other hand, Armenians have inhabited the region since ancient times. Google Hay-asa Azzi or Tigranes The Great.
Waiting for the US to invade Canada to unite with Alaska. Just seems to be the trendy thing lately . . . 😂
Edit: I guess I need more emojis for some readers . . . 😉
You need to read up more on history. 🌚🌚🌚
@@FromValkyrie It has been more than 200 years since the last attempt. I'd assess the US to be slightly stronger relative to Canada (even backed by Britain) than it was in 1812.
As someone who wants to be President of the US, I say that is a great idea! Thank you 🙏 😊
@@ShankarSivarajan you and the original commenter need to demand a refund on your education.
What has Alaska got to do with anything?
Do you even know how Alaska became a US state?
The difference is Alaska was never Canadian. Artsakh has always been Armenian for thousands of years. Canada has no business claiming Alaska, just like Azerbaijan has no business claiming Artsakh
Armenia & US troops are holding military exercises. So I don't think Azerbaijan will invade right now.
Aren’t they exercising on Armenia territory? I am pretty sure Azerbaijan is only interested in Nagorno-Karabakh, which is recognized worldwide as their territory
Calm down Nobody wants to invade this tiny Little Land called armenia
@@last_aid_kit Azeri also want some Armenian land..
@@last_aid_kitthe dictator of azerbaijan has repeatedly claimed armenia as an ancient azeri territory. Which is odd since azerbaijan never existed in the history of mankind before the year 1918. The dictators claims are a warning sign that as soon as azerbaijan ethnically cleanses all indigenous Armenians from their lands aliyev the dictator will come after armenia next.
thats why there are armenians in azerbaijan but no azeris in armenia
I wonder what happened@@stbuddha3547
Karabakh is not disputed region, it's internationally recognized territory of Azerbaijan
i hate the way people called it a "disputed" region when the UN literally voted to say its a part of Azerbaijan and it has been since 1918!
Internationally recognized doesnt mean part of. If it was part of azerbaijan tje population would be azeris. Not Armenians.
@@AramBasmadjian-wz1wj we said get out of our lands, say thanks to Stalin that he populated Karabakh with Armenian people, after all it will be Azerbaijani"s soon
@@AramBasmadjian-wz1wjCountries are usually not ethnically pure and borders are not drawn along ethnic divides.
@TheCamouflageMonkey what? Did u really just say usually borders aren't divided by ethnicity? Are u crazy? Then how are they divided? Every country is divded to keep their own ethnicity and culture. Shut up and get your gibberish morse code out of here.
Folks are hating on Azerbaijan here, claiming they should be sanctioned and Armenia helped and all kinds of stuff...
On what basis? They (maybe with some very small exceptions) aren't occupying de jure Armenian land. Their military moves are consistent with the military moves it would make to liberate Nagarno-Karabakh, which is de-jure Azerbaijan's from Armenia; a move they have the right to make.
The only thing you can go by with is a human rights record but if we know two things, it's that a human rights record is incredibly hard to base, AND that sanctions are an incredibly ineffective tool to create human rights improvement.
The alternative, offering Ukraine style support to Armenia would totally alienate Azerbaijan, and again, that wouldn't be rooted in fighting a violation of international law; BUT THE OPPOSITE, it would in effect be becoming an accomplice in the violation of international law. This is NOT a move that spurs confidence in international partners, this is NOT a move that advance support for a rules based international order.
The commies created a catch 22 in the borders of their former subjects. These borders were designed to create war. The only way to avoid wars is an adherence to international law. And that means some nations, like Armenia, get screwed out of their ethnic lands. So be it. It is not the arbitrary Putin style land grabs where if you give a finger he takes a hand. It is a land grab based on decisions made many decades ago, and the situation is not repeatable. That is why diplomacy is the only option for Armenia to gain any kind of victory
Look up Ramil Safarov. That will tell you a lot about Azerbaijan.
Look up Serj Sargsyan. He is babykiller. That will tell you a lot about Armenia
I feel like a new international military convention should be passed around attributing full fiscal responsability for destroyed properties and infrastructure within a warzone , regardless of control, to the sovreign party who destroyed it. liability doubles if it was destroyed in a 'non-formalized "CoNfliCt" '.
Worked so well after WW1.
you are explaining like azerbaijan attacked armenia's soil. they took back their land, didnt get any land from armenia. your graphics missing data.
As often happens, the analysis is not the most accurate. As the conflict with the West escalates, Russia seeks to enlist the support of the “South.” One of the important partners in this for them is Turkey. For Russia now, neutrality and trade with Turkey are very important, so they agreed to cede part of their influence in the Caucasus. In the 2020 war, they bought Turkey’s neutrality in the war between Russia and Ukraine. Turkey located its military bases in Azerbaijan, Turkey’s presence in NATO does not bother Russia at all. Now Russia really needs trade relations with Turkey, so they are ready to create the "Zangezur corridor" together. In return, Turkey will help Russia continue to circumvent Western sanctions. Armenia and Azerbaijan are just puppets in this game.
Haha Azerbaijan is a puppet?) we want our rightful lands back and gonna get it by playing political game. And, we are planning to benefit from trade routes as an transit country. That's why opening of Zangezur corridor is in interest of many countries included China in first place. We have common interests aligned in a high level with Turkiye, but it doesn mean we are puppet. During the time Turkiye and Israel had bad relations, we kept our ties strong with Israel and export them oil in return of high tech military equipments.
If we were willing to be puppet, it would be much easier to lean towards Russia than Turkiye. But, we chose our side - if we want to stay independent and not be like poor Armenia we need to be sided with Turkiye even though it was very diffucult in the early years of independence that's why we lost our lands in expense of our freedom. Armenians got our lands but lost their independence and become very dependent on Russia. We signed oil contracts with West against of Russian interestes in order to keep our independence and develop economically. After all these, well articulated people call us Puppet. Pls , appreciate the fact that as an small and newborn country we have well crafted foreign policy which helping us to get stronger day by day.
We appreciate the support of Turkiye, Israel and some friendly countries but in politics every player has own interests. E.g Azerbaijan is a key player in Turkiye's political agenda in Asia, helps Turkiye building ties with other Turkic countries. As, former Soviet countries and advantage of geographical location, Azerbaijan can do it. In return we get support from Türkiye and etc..
That is why I think Azerbaijan IS going to invade Armenia.
Azerbaijan and Armenia are clearly aware of this game that is between Russia and Turkey. But since Iran is starting to get involved and Russia is busy with Ukraine, Azerbaijan might have the chance to invade Armenia and get Karabakh back. (I don't think they'll ever fully invade Armenia. They'll probably take some land and demand Karabakh and Zangazur Corridor to be opened)
So, if Azerbaijan gets Karabakh and Zangazur Corridor, they'll probably stop being aggressive towards Armenia and their land. Which would mean that they won't be a puppet any longer.
Armenia has already started resisting Russian control. They have been getting supplied from India and France with arms.
So, I think these two countries are about to do what they want without the permission of their parents. (Which might either ruin both of them or make Azerbaijan win)
You're making ridiculous analyzes because you don't know that Turkey and Russia are historical rivals. Türkiye looks after its own interests. Many of you forget this, but at the very beginning of the war, Turkey helped Ukraine as much as it could, while no Western state helped Ukraine in order not to upset relations with Russia because Ukraine would lose in advance. Having stated from the beginning that I am someone who does not like Erdogan, I can only laugh at those who think that Erdogan and Putin are friends. The men who always fought against each other in Syria and Libya are suddenly declared friends by a high school war expert.
@@barskayhan2691 They are rivals but not enemies. The enemy for Russia is the West. And the West for Russia in the Caucasus is a much worse scenario than Turkey. The hostility in Syria does not bother Russia at all. Where war is needed, where mutually beneficial partnership is needed. In Ukraine and Syria, Turkey has its own ambitions. Turkey helps Ukraine, but also helps Russia economically. Turkey periodically initiates negotiations in a manner beneficial to Russia. Turkey plays its own game.
@@gl8272 Explaining the political preferences of these countries through Putin, Zelensky, and Erdoğan alone can lead to misunderstandings. Turkey, of course, follows a balanced foreign policy, but there are also historical reasons for its initial support for Ukraine, just like Serbia's policy at the beginning of the war. In other words, it speaks to realpolitik, but there's also a background to consider. I am evaluating the situation historically. When I open the map and look at events from the last five hundred years, it becomes clear that incidents like the passage of grain ships don't hold much significance. Just a few years ago, the deaths of dozens of Turkish soldiers due to a Russian airstrike, for example, is a politically much more significant event. This event is known by everyone in Turkey just like shot down Russian jet(by Turkey) known by everyone in Russia. Despite this, it's not possible for Erdoğan to pursue a policy based on it. Even though Erdoğan may be a dictator, he still needs the votes of those citizens to be elected. I believe that when the Ukraine war ends and the West starts buying gas from Russia again, Putin will once again be declared a peace envoy, and the analyses of Erdoğan and Putin being best friends will disappear. As you mentioned in your comment, the Erdoğan-Putin relationship is hanging by a very thin thread. Erdoğan portraying himself as very close to Putin is also risky for his domestic political career. In my opinion, many people analyze the two countries without knowing their internal dynamics, geography, and history, using Putin and Erdoğan as caricatures.
People watching this video after it happened💀.
This administrative region is called Karabakh, for almost 3 years. It was called Nagorno Karabakh before the war, it's a Soviet name.
most people know that region as karabakh
I know the region as Artsakh. Artsakh is a province of Armenia
This a very lopsided narratives. Starting with NK is essentially and legally part of Azerbaijan. And the fact that lachin border was agreed upon at 2020 peace treaty with access of Nakchavan. I never belived my elders who claimed west has selected amnesia but this is insult to our intelligence. I remember peace treaty when repoted by many international press.
“They probably won’t invade don’t worry” yeah, that’s what they said in February 2022…
Is it invasion when you try to get back your UN recognized lands ? Then why Ukraine trying to invade Crimea with their current offensive ?
@@CurrentlyOffliner fuck the UN, they’d rather cover up noncing than stop wars and genocides
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Azeris massacred Armenians in 1989, and refused to give independance to Karabagh despite the fact that the enclave's parliament voted in favor of uniting with Armenia in 1988, legally. Azeris started to make pogroms (massacres) against armenians as soon as 1989 (then massacres against Azeris followed during the subsequent war...).
Armenia and inhabitant of Karabagh never recognized Nagorno-Karabakh as an Azeri land (since 1990 and pogroms against armenians btw, same period where azerbaidjan got its independance), and indeed it never was (it's populated by a majority of armenians for thousands of years).
The ones destroying armenian heritage and ancient buildings are turks and azeris, not the opposite, especially in Nakhchivan, but there is no armenian remaining in Nakhchivan.
On February 20, 1988, the enclave's parliament voted in favor of uniting with Armenia. The demand to unify with Armenia, which began anew in 1988, began in a relatively peaceful manner.
Azerbaidjan didn't even exist in 1988 lmao
Western countries can be interested in mutual relations with Armenia, because of Russian factor in South Caucasus is very small now and balance of power is disrupted. And because of that Americans opened industrial area in armenian-azerbaijanis border. I think that the role of regulator in this conflict can take USA. For Armenia there isn’t much time to get stronger, but with help of interested countries like USA and Iran confilct can delayed for a moment to give Armenia a chance to replay.
It is seem very easy to sit and write in front of the laptop at warm and silent home whatever your mind is thinking. But believe me your murdered troops also thought like that before they left to sleep at yerablur. The war is not for you, you cant fight, you can only kill people innocent kids and women as in KHOJALY 26 February in 1992 . you *rmenian predict to sit behind the supporting countries and cry from there.
A landlocked country cannot receive enough support of any kind from a power from thousands of miles away. Maybe from Georgian ports but I am not sure if it is ok to carry that much weapon in the black sea due to Montreaux convention. I think It is better for Armenia and Armenians to settle down the dispute and improve the relations with the neighbouring countries. Many people misses the point that Armenia has 4 neighbouring countries and they have bad relations with three of them including Georgia which is indeed a Christian country. Such international relations is a limitation for any country to prosper. About Russian influence in region, I can still say that it is much more than the US they still have cost advantage in case of a usage of force. Also an action against Azerbaijan may result gas shortages or at least price shocks in Europe so it is unlikely. Under these conditions it is better for Armenians and Armenian state to stop playing the victim and face what they did to regional countries in the past so they are not welcome in 75% of their neighbouring states. Also this type of action would decrease Armenians' dependence on regional or global powers to secure Armenia's territories. I do not say that improving relations is at no cost but still it is better than relaying on others.
@@neutrino4853 In 21 century countries conducting weapon transportation and not only weapon primarily use air connection as like Azeris with Il76 from Israel and talking about sea ports and land borders is not correct in 21 century. Improving relations is good, but only when in region will be balance between powers. Russia now has interests with Azerbaijan and Turkey it is knowed from everyone. But Russian factor americans want to break down and for that they can use Armenia. For great power balance in region is everything for US especially. Armenia wil try to normalise relations but only when requests from Turkey and Azerbaijan will be lesser than now and when Armenia will strenghthen its hard power.
@@ParuyrS I believe you are not counting the cost of air transportation. This is a huge parameter. If US wants to ship arms to Armenia for some reason it will be costly and who is going to pay for it? Armenian economy is not in a good shape and also not only Russia but also US is occupied with Ukraine war. Apart from the eastern europe, US has to focus on China and indo&west-pacific power shifts.
I am afraid to say but it is not a lucrative deal for US to donate arms to a region in which their power projection capabilities will unlikely surpass the superpower in the region or say the least the regional powers such as Iran and Turkey. For such a scenario to become successful, Iran is critical for ground transportation. However, even if the US and the Iran decide to support Armenia I have doupts that they will collaborate on that purpose because of the Iranian illogical theocratic regime.
By the way, to break the Russian overhand in caucasus they dont have to ally with Armenia, they can just support Ukraine so Russians will be much more occupied with the ongoing war. Also supporting Armenia in such conditions is costly, don't forget it is not wise to back the wrong horse.
For Armenian state I cannot see a short term solution in favor of them. The least damaging international policy seems to negociate on demands and make them in a plausible level and then compromise. Another scenario can be formally allying with Iran and it could work for short term but this would be the last straw in between Armenian and western relations and damage it for a couple of decades.
@@neutrino4853 Armenia don’t have much choice in the countries to buy weapon for understandable reasons, but for example India can afford to help Armenia because of Pakistani factor and not only India. I don’t consider official help from US as a weapon transportation, but with their mediation Armenia can negotiate with Azerbaijan at the end. US is a country of big caliber and for them multitasking never was and is a problem if you read world history. And if we consider last peace agenda between Saudi Arabia and Iran for them possible zone of influence is essential in this region. Armenian economy now is being strengthened , but if we compare Armenia and Azerbaijan in numbers its obvious that azeris are ahead. Azeri’s inner political situation now isn’t good and they can’t afford many casualties in future war because of domestic political problems. They now work to scare Armenia with muscles to have more concessions at the table of negotiations. About Iran mentality of the last part 20 century is not proper because in foreign policy after death of Khomeini 1989 their foreign policy was oriented more secular way but in inner policy i agree they are religious. Armenia can use red lines of Iran considered with borders, because if Zangezur coridor will be opened Iran will lost 200 mln market and its against their national interests. In this vein Armenia has chances.
With helping Ukraine US can’t low the influence of Russia through Azerbaijan and Turkey because they are in the same “basket”. But Armenia can diversify power balance. But i already mentioned that i truly disbelief about weapon help from US.
Iran will not help with the situation of Nagorno-Karabakh, but Armenia should use Iran to the issue of Zangezur’s corridor.
Azerbaijan needs to back off and stop bullying Armenia. (No, I'm not saying Armenia never did anything wrong). Most of Nagorno-Karabakh does not want to be part of Azerbaijan. Seems like Azerbaijan is the aggressor. Why does Armenia not have more support? Because it's in a worser position?
Because of oil, geopolitics and international law.
Why are you not telling us before the fall of the USSR? That piece of land ethnically belonged to Azerbaijan. Stalin moved Armenian people there to start conflict and hasn't been stopped. Stfu and read more.
Spot on analysis. Azerbaijan military have started a military operation into Armenia a week later.
The day before the war in Ukraine Azerbaijan signed agreement with Russia of strategic cooperation. Coincidentally there was a sequence of more similar type of agreements.
Путин и его команда великий Туран это значит Путин крыша Алиева
Its important to note, Russia never intervened by CSTO agreement, there were never Russian troops fighting on the side of Armenia. Their intervention was a a very bad trilateral agreement that is now being broken by Azerbaijan.
if Armenia didn't occupy rightful lands of Azerbaijan back in 1990s by support of russians...
CSTO agreement is to protect Armenia from invasion , Qarabagh is not part Armenia and not stipulated in the agreement stupid.
Yes there are Armenian Russian Wagner army send by Kremlin Russia pro Armenia during 2020 war.
@@azeturkmen Azeris refused to give independance to Karabagh despite the fact that the enclave's parliament voted in favor of uniting with Armenia in 1988, legally. Also, Azeris started to make pogroms (massacres) against armenians as soon as 1989 (then massacres against Azeris followed during the subsequent war...).
it's quite different, Armenia and inhabitant of Karabagh never recognized Nagorno-Karabakh as an Azeri land (since 1990 and pogroms against armenians btw, same period where azerbaidjan got its independance), and indeed it never was (it's populated by a majority of armenians for thousands of years).
The ones destroying armenian heritage and ancient buildings are turks and azeris, not the opposite, especially in Nakhchivan, but there is no armenian remaining in Nakhchivan.
On February 20, 1988, the enclave's parliament voted in favor of uniting with Armenia. The demand to unify with Armenia, which began anew in 1988, began in a relatively peaceful manner.
Azerbaidjan didn't even exist in 1988 lmao
Lie: Where did Aremnia's victory winning ARMY in 1993 disappered? BECAUSE THEN IN 1993 RUSSIAN TROOPS PAINTED IN ARMENIAN COLORS/FLAGS WAS THE MAIN POWER WHO INVADED KARABAG + OTHER AZERBAIJANI TERRITORIS (25 OF AZERBAIJAN'S LANDS.
LIARS LIARS LIARS
@@azeturkmenLOL, Armenians lived there for centuries. Historically it belongs to Armenia. If during USSR it was legally given to Azerbaijan, that doesn’t mean that Armenians are occupiers. Stop using such terms. If Putin tomorrow says, that Moscow is USA, and legally acknowledges it, does it mean that people living in Moscow are occupiers? 😂
So many important points missed deliberately or not
1. Karabakh is internationally recognized territory of Azerbaijan, including Armenia. You don't invade your own territory/
2. CSTO doesn't cover Karabakh as mentioned above since agreement based on recognized borders of members. So Russia didn't help because there was no reason to.
3. Armenia not only invaded Karabakh on 90 but surrounding areas which were 20% of Azerbaijan, resulting in 800.000 IDPs.
There are much more but report distort the facts rather than explaining it.
I feel bad for Armenia, they have no allies in their cause
@@NoName-xq7dpCSTO can’t be depended upon.
@@NoName-xq7dpiran LOL
Azerbaijan really be using the "for each" symbol on their veichles
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1:12 False information Azerbaijan Calls it as "Dağlık Karabağ". "Nagorno" is Russian. This itself shows that you truly have no idea about the topic... Western Media at its finest.
I want armenians and azeris to find common sense and make peace. But as we all know, dictators dont have those two words in their dictionary.
Armenia is a democracy, supported by Russia. Azerbaijan is a dictatorship, backed by the west. Or consider that China's last war ended in 1979, the US' latest one ended barely 2 years ago in 2021. The world isn't as simple as a religious childrens' book.
Armenia should not have tried to conquer land off of its neighbour.
@@aksmex2576 turks shouldn't have genocided the armenians for 100s of years. their lives and lands are forfeit now
@@av3902 Then Armenians shouldn't have rebelled and killed thousands of Turkish civilians while Turkey was under invasion of half of Europa and Russia in WW1.
It's Armenian land, Stalin literally just "transferred" it to Azerbaijan to piss people off@@aksmex2576
Funnily it’s Armenia who doesn’t sign peace and doesn’t recognize Azerbaijani borders .
ofc, Armenia would not recognize armenian territories occupied by azeris as azerbaidjan
@@kerdart351 : there’s no Armenia. It’s west Azerbaijan 🇦🇿
@@Tennis2016 Nope. Azeris massacred Armenians in 1989, and refused to give independance to Karabagh despite the fact that the enclave's parliament voted in favor of uniting with Armenia in 1988, legally. Azeris started to make pogroms (massacres) against armenians as soon as 1989 (then massacres against Azeris followed during the subsequent war...).
Armenia and inhabitant of Karabagh never recognized Nagorno-Karabakh as an Azeri land (since 1990 and pogroms against armenians btw, same period where azerbaidjan got its independance), and indeed it never was (it's populated by a majority of armenians for thousands of years).
The ones destroying armenian heritage and ancient buildings are turks and azeris, not the opposite, especially in Nakhchivan, but there is no armenian remaining in Nakhchivan.
On February 20, 1988, the enclave's parliament voted in favor of uniting with Armenia. The demand to unify with Armenia, which began anew in 1988, began in a relatively peaceful manner.
Azerbaidjan didn't even exist in 1988 lmao
@steventaylor3104 : looks like your mom has told you about him. But think about this : you lived thousand years other Azerbaijani kings. So most probably your female ancestors been served well by those royal Azeri aubergine 🍆👍🏼
I have no idea this two countries have conflicts until now.
Err.. Where were you? They was a war break out on 2021 when Corona virus started in China
in 1990's war , Armenians not only occupied the Karabakh but also occupied surrounding 7 region totally belongs to Azerbaijan. These 7 regions were even 2-3 times bigger than Karabakh itself. For 30 years azerbaijan insisted Armenia to give back these 7 regions but did not get any reply. Armenians claimed that not only Karabakh but these 7 regions also belongs to Armenians .
in 2020's war , azerbaijan succesfully get these 7 region back. only a part of Karabakh stayed under Armenian occupation.
And 2 days ago Azerbaijan finished the job and fully liberated its own land so the problem occured in 1990's war is happily over now.
yes they did
For god's sake not this again
Tell that to Condombaijan Regime
2:45 and a tonne of drones. Although the war was short, there were a lot of videos showing how devastating they were against the Armenian army in 2020
3:07 negotiations started right after Azerbaijan took down a Russian helicopter by mistake. Russia did close to nothing before that
We were beginning to counter the drones when our govt folded.
WTF did you expect Russia to do? Sacrifice thousands of its soldiers to protect Armenia that has been anti-russian for at least 5 last years and just did a military exercise with NATO? All while armenis themselves are loud on the internet from their safe diasporas in Russia, the US and other countries but do nothing to protect their homeland on the ground? Screw that.
There are a lot of wrong information in this video. Please, next time search the materials more carefully as this topic is really sensible for millions of people.
The West should support Christian Armenia…
Thats racism fashistic move
The west doesn’t care about religion nor does Azerbaijanis
Ewww Christian fundamentalism 🤢 take your ISIS-like extremist views elsewhere
@salamov963 your negative point being?
because basing military conflicts over religion has always been a great idea
Azerbaijan is only trying to take their lands back. This ain't no invading at all
@@AtarahMata check the history of qarabag improve your knowledge. Qarabag was invaded by Armenians 40 years ago. It was always part of Azerbaijan. Iran is not the part of this concept don't ask me im not the government lol
@@AtarahMata and I believe in the will of Azerbaijani people. Going back to 400 or BC years won't make any changes at all, I'm talking about only 30 years ago.
What are Armenians looking for in Azerbaijani territory?
F.., it is not disputed! it is internationally recognised Azerbaijan land occupied by Armenians and Russians. Millions of Azerbaijani are displaced from their homes in 1990s. Why is it too difficult to understand?
And so it's begun. Pay close attention to these frozen conflict areas, I'm convinced that this region is about to see heavy fighting with no Russian "Peacekeepers" to divide the battling countries. I pray this will not spill over into another world war.
Russia started this very conflict and supported their puppet until it no longer benefited them to do so.
Too complicated, just reunite the Soviet problem solved
Im Armenian and i can confirm that we have no clue wth our dumb politicians are doing.
Azerbaijan invaded us yesterday and hasnt stopped since.
We have already lost dozens of soldiers and few innocents
Azerbaijan didn't invade armenia. Theyre doing all the stuff in azerbaijan lands
@@rehzen169 Are they doing ethnic cleansing in azeri lands?
And why should anyone accept it?
why is it not talked about what the Armenians did to the Azerbaijanis? Is Azerbaijan guilty? Or Armenians, who always pretend to be pitiful? Armenians have taken revenge for their genocides and will take revenge. You British, Americans and French can forget this, but you are not the supporters of human rights? Why do you not recognize the genocides committed against the independent population in Karabakh? Why have you forgotten Khojaly? YOU ARE A LIAR LAW DEFENDER running after the lies of 1-2 flattering Armenians, YES I AM SURE OF IT
Just to note, Azerbaijan hasnt invaded someones land, they just took control of their internationaly recognized territory called Karabağ from illegaly armed forces. You could look at least maps.google to check in which country the Karabağ is located . On the other hand, Kara means black and bağ means yard , that Karabağ is a turkish word..
We also know that Cyprus is recognized as ONE COUNTRY, the whole island.
If Cypriots did to turkish occupation the same as azeris do to armenians you wouldn't say the same.
So shut up, and accept your barbarian bloodthisty nature. Don't try to excuse your murders.
I love how I always see Azerbaijan attacking and also see Azerbaijani people demonstrating against armenia in western countries
pls Google term "internationally recognised borders"
@@aydamirguli77Please search for "peace", and "Azeri aggression".
@@aydamirguli77 Im not even talking about the contested region. Azerbaijan attacked the Armenian mainland.
Also if we go about internationally recognised borders, does that mean that China can just carpetbomb Taiwan and that will be fine because its their territory?
@@Bennie_Tziek pls tell me which settlements/towns did Azerbaijan occupy in Armenia mainland pls
@@aydamirguli77 "attacking" "attacked", nowhere do I say occupy, but to fullfill your information needs: "Azerbaijani forces attacked military and civilian positions in Vardenis, Goris, Sotk, Jermuk, and other cities with artillery, drones, and heavy weapons."
It could be another 2020 war situation but we will see
South Azerbaijan is NOT Iran. The Azerbaijani Turks have endured years of oppression by the Persian government, depriving them of their rights. Azerbaijani Turks are unwavering in their solidarity with their brothers and sisters in Azerbaijan, and they anticipate a future where they will achieve freedom and reunite with Azerbaijan in the near future. 🇦🇿❤🇦🇿❤🇹🇷🇦🇿❤🇦🇿❤🇹🇷
@TLDR Looks like you were right, fighting has erupted between Aremina and Azerbaijan.
Since the ukraine war russia has basically lost all leverage to actually maintain peace and has to listen to all of azerbaijans demands
Hah, exactly! And thanks god zombieland (russia) lost it's power. Neighbors are tired of Russia. Only armenia and belarus are sending love to russia. Because they are puppets of Russia. Rest of neighbors just hate russia. Just hate.
Why do you care ? Then dont care😂😉
Yes this is demands, this is azerbaijan's naturally right
It is important to clarify The Republic of "Azarpadegan" historically was called Arrano Shirvan until 1918 when with Russia influence they copied the name of our province in Northern Iran in order to incite division within Iran but it never worked. Azarpadegan means fire garrison in Persian translates to "place where fire is protected" as Azarpadegan province of Iran was devoutly Zoroastrian.