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- And where it leaves war-torn Nagorno-Karabakh.
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Nagorno-Karabakh is a mountainous area in the Caucasus region between Europe and Asia. For more than 30 years, it's been locked in a conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan. The fight between the two countries began in the early 20th century but became a frozen conflict for 60 years while the whole region was under the control of the Soviet Union.
When the Soviet Union fell, newfound independence sparked a brutal six-year war in the region, where Armenia emerged victorious. From 1994 to 2020, Armenia controlled Nagorno-Karabakh, while Azerbaijan rebuilt its military. Fighting erupted again in summer 2020, and Azerbaijan went on the offensive - eventually capturing most of Nagorno-Karabakh and dramatically reshaping the region.
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Indeed
For real they're literally the best Vox... thing.
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The funny thing that Iran supports Armenia the Christian country against Azerbaijan the Muslim country and isreal supported Azerbaijan.
iran is satanist
Actually Azeris are mostly irreligious. Azerbaijan is one of the most irreligious countries by percentage and the state is officially secular from the beginning.
Unlucky TH-camr your country is satanist
@@romorashoyan7686 your dad is fasicst
@@romorashoyan7686
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2020 was so bad that a literal war was just ignored by the news
Don't be that naieve to even suggest that western news normally covers everything.
@@KAvanAlten Ever heard of a joke?
@@KAvanAlten
It rarely cover anything tbh...
@@firstnamelastname4249 It is incapable of covering anything. So people who say that news is 'ignoring' something do not realize that the news just cannot show anything at all and have to make choices what to show and what not. So it is much more not selecting than ignoring
Great time to pick a fight then. Everyone is too distracted by covid to do much
Oftentimes when the Soviet Union drew up borders for its territories, it would intentionally disregard the pre-existing ethnic boundaries within countries. This was done by Stalin as a sort of fail-safe to ensure that if the Soviet Union did fall, Russia's neighbors wouldn't be able to prosper. This can be seen not only in Nagorno-Karabakh, but also in Abkhazia and South Ossetia in modern-day Georgia, Transnistria in Moldova, and the numerous exclaves in Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan, and Kazakhstan.
I dont think Stalin planned for the fall of his Empire. I think the borders were drawn up not respecting ethnic boundaries as to counter against Nationalism.
@@JN-wr9he The territory is historically Armenian, the churches there date back millenia, that doesn't excuse Armenians cleansing Azeri after the first war, nor Azeri cleansing Armenians after this round, they're neighbours forever, and need to reach some kind of permanant settlement.
You forgot to mention that Stalin's and Lenin's the biggest effort was to disolve Russia itself, that results now in Russian-Ukrainian war and will result in border conflicts with Belorussia and Kazahstan where the majority of russians lives. That was done according to the proverb "divide and rule" in order to simplisize the conrol. Decades of wars will pass untill boundries settle down. It's also ironic that Georgia-birthplace of Stalin is at Civil war because of him and other bolshevics.
@@sarfaraz.hosseini The government of the Soviet Republic of Azerbaijan was slowly strangling the life out of Armenians who lived in Karabakh (Artzakh) and Nakhichevan; meanwhile, Baku was sending in Turkic Populations (eg Meshketian Turks), who received the financial aide that was supposed to go to Armenians.
For a long time, Baku, Azerbaijan was committing the crime of ethnic cleansing, before the Karabakh War even started. That's why there aren't any Armenians in Nakhichevan now. And, it didn't help that violent pogroms ejected Armenians from places like Baku, Sumgait, and Kirovabad (Ganja).
Just Saying!
@@ArmenianBishop gerçekler bildiyiniz gibi değil
Its scary how wars like this happen around the world and yet a lot of people dont know whats occuring
True
Yup
It's called distraction
Why should people from diffrent parts of the world know sbout this conflict?
It's because of the media. They want to report what they want.
The real sufferers are the innocent civilians who are stuck in the violent conflicts
imagine vibing in mountains and getting bombed
@@singrevolution yeah but think about the childeren. They didn't chose to live there. You can't say "they are not so innocent" about civilions.
@@singrevolution so why didn't the azeris just give them independence before? They should also have expected a response when were trying to occupy another nation.
@@RedbadofFrisia ??? the Armenians were occupying Azeri land. The Azeris rightfully pushed them out
@@RedbadofFrisia Azeri weren't occupying anything, Karabakh was an autonomous republic within Azerbaijan. It had a mixed population. Didn't you watch the video?
So Russia basically acted like Britain does in every other border conflict
How can one be so true...
But Russia try bringing peace more then fight whereas Britain uses that fight as an advantage for their country
I just mean that Russia is bit better then Britain
@@rj5848 Russia is doing this so they can increase their influence over the region. They are using this fight to their advantage.
@@rj5848 respect the graft
@@rj5848 Russia is doing exactly the same.....
I am Azerbaijani and my heart goes out to all innocent people who died and suffered in wars started by governments.
@Menforfree wake up dude, every part of Karabakh* belongs to us and ur government accepted it, gg
@Menforfree It is not Artsakh it is Karabakh. There is no need for searching in first place. Karabakh is legally ours and what you did and continue to doing is crime. Occupying our land and killing civils with missiles. Shame on you
@Menforfree we will never recognize an unproven genocide that your government refused to investigate. There’s no evidence of “genocide”. Recognize the 800,000 Turks who were eliminated by Dashank and Hunchak armenians invading eastern Anatolia.... and also recognize the genocide of Khojaly... do that and then we will think about normalizing relations. You will follow our terms, armenia needs Turkey and Azerbaijan... but Turkey and azerbaijan dont need little armenia.
Such as your own dictatorship?…
@@armenkazaryan7181 44 days.
England watching this:
Finally a border that I didn't f**k up!
edit: thank you replies for proving me wrong. ENGLAND did have a part in this war
Replies 1, Sahil 0.👍
Also England: Its never too late!
I would much rather see england step aside to the irish. My guess by 2030.
@@nzoththedeepwatcher1616 hehe i liked your reply as soon as you posted ☺
@@saurabhgodara603 Flying dutchman could use a new home, and them a navy.
Yet
When two elephants fight, it's the grass that is trampled...
great quote
When two penguins dance it’s the ice that melts
When two dolphins kiss it’s the shark that has a nice dinner
When a Karen fights it's the manager which suffers
🇦🇲MARSILIYA IS ARMENIA🇦🇲
the whole world: it's a frozen conflict
Armenian and Azerbaijan: silently preparing for another round
ala o birsi round yoxdu day bunlari ya rus yiyecek yada day bezecekler
@@597das
they both did. Azerbaijan had its territories under occupation and somehow had to end it while Armenia was always living in the fear of the second round. Armenia spent 14 billion dollars just to built the first defense line
The US should support Armenia in this conflict since Armenia is a democracy while Azerbaijan is not and Armenia is a good place for the US to have a foot hold on Central Asia.
@@597das Armenia attack Azerbaijan in July 2020 and it was not an disputed area. They have prepared for war since summer.
@@AllMustJump hahahahahaha
Although I've long known about the tensions in the region, I was unaware of the territorial dispute between Armenia and Azerbaijan. Thank you for covering the region and the issue.
They change history the way they want
@@armenbilbulyan5946How many years has it been since the 44 diary of Azerbaijani Armenians? As Armenians, it is not to live in this country, but to crawl, let's say that we are a country that has gained publicity by flattery in another place, we don't even have a president.
It's never about small countries that fight for their land, it's about big countries that fight for their interests.
Absolutely right...
Exactly! The United States could care less about Armenia because it's not a part of NATO whereas Turkey has an interest in expanding Azerbaijan to ethnically cleanse out Armenia. It's all about that NATO money, the U.S. sending weapons to Turkey to give to Azers. Sad.
@@ArchYeomans You know that Turkey's main goal in the region is not ethnic cleansing right? The main goal is to recapture Nagorno-Karabakh with Azerbaijan controlling 100% of it. I don't know where you get your information but I think you should double-check some of it.
@@ArchYeomans I recommend you to read just a bit before you make such strong comments. That is not true at all.
@@ArchYeomans U.S sending weapons??? u really don't know how turkey becoming strong
"Ultimately, the agreement does nothing to end the hostility between the two countries."
Big Surprise.
That's the history of mankind for ya
It's just a beginning of a new, much more dramatic and sad story!... (( Stay tuned!
Armenia did not want peace, occupied the territories that Azerbaijan was entitled to for years
@@ihsankeskin Don't they realize such a policy could cost them their state? (?)
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We need to appreciate Vox's amazing visuals
color choice for map is awful
@@nazarsheshuriak8689 I believe it's to present a neutral stance. Say not very *extreme* contrasts or shades between the two colors.
@@thecheeselord5943 maybe but it was difficult to look at it.
Yeah, and only for visuals, because the information in this video is inaccurate. And as a binge-vox-watcher I'm gonna questioning the information they are giving in every video after this.
@@gulnarismayill can you elaborate on what some of the inaccuracies are?
Unfortunately, this is very typical of the Caucasus. There are hundreds of nations in the Caucasus: Armenians, Azeris, Abkhazians, Ossetians, Chechens, Georgians, Cherkessians,... each one has a unique language and culture. Caucasian Peoples are very diverse.
“That is much more of a deal than a peace” well said
Oh timur the lame. Conquer of india, south rusya and middle asia. How can we stop this unnecessary bloodshed in karabakh?
@@nightbot.2817 Bring me my elephant army
@@casey4620 xD
Imagine all the people...
Considering what was surrendered, especially with how close Azeris and Turkey are and the deal they got that further strengthened their cooperation, we should not be surprised of a future war that may see Armenia disappear more or less.
Turkey, Azerbaijan nearly same language=brothers
Russia, Ukraine nearly same language=enemies
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Our religion, our language, our race, our ancestors, our goals are the same 🤘🇦🇿🇹🇷🤟
@@boyukabbas6057 Selam olsun 🇹🇷🇦🇿
@@balla_lemon Aleyküm salam 🇦🇿🇹🇷🇵🇰
Enemy of my enemy is my friend
USA: "guys this isnt fair. Im not included in the war"
There's no oil in Karabakh that's why
@@neophilosophy1764 Azerbaijan and isreal become bff bcz of Azerbaijan having oil
@@raegonthe5 There''s oil in Azerbaijan's Caspian region but not in Karabakh
@@neophilosophy1764 oh sorry
That's because Trump was president . Now under Biden, war will break out !
For some, it's just an information video of a war for me it's the last 3 years of my life. I couldn't keep my tears while watching as the scenes you see in the video are not just scenes they were my reality. Thank you for raising the awareness of what is happening in our region.
Wow very glad to hear from the people most affected by conflict. The western media doesn’t cover this kind of topic but im glad I know now.
Please be safe.
Comments are probably gonna be full of people asking for Johnny Harris.
But let's recognize that Sam Ellis has done some really great work with Atlas
In all honesty, you are the first i see mention it today.
Johnny Harris is so great isn’t he
This guy is better than Harris for political and geopolitical videos
@@tabrezakhtar7192 yes indeed. This guy way better than Johnny Harris.
Both
Honestly one thing i know for sure is turkey going to sell drones like hot cakes
Most are probably gonna go for drones made by usa, Israel, China or Russia though
@@rodneydsouza2454 ukraine going to make drones with turkey though but that is because of russia.
@@kadirahmadli4642 Drones were already discovered to be important in the Donbass War. Some older Soviet era drones were even used.
@@news_internationale2035 turkey reverse engineering something or most of the weapons like China
Yes, the albayraktar tb2 showed its precision in the videos of the drone attacks, they are also a fraction of the price of the usa chinese drones
Everything i know about this war:
Drone
And war crimes
Oh and the fact that no one knows who started it.
It was clearly azerbijan who started it. I mean, people were living peacfully in the homes in karabagh, while azerbaijan givernment were olanning the attack for a long time, to get those regions that was “theirs”. But their are not. Read the history of armenia and karabagh/artsakh))
Kim K for me though.
Not only drones, but also brains developing and controlling those drones, making strategic attacks, deciding where and when to use drones etc. You cannot win any war only with drones.
2022 and it's happening again
Yes, Azerbaijans are trying to ethnically cleanse the Armenian race and yet no one is going to help about it because armenia is too small of a country for people to care
@movinnice1914 how us azerbaijan trying to "erase the Armenian race"?
@@movinnice1914It is not possible to live illegally on the land of Azerbaijan. at least we did not do what Armenia did in 1992.
@@m_ahmd07 armenia was the country that noah landed in with his boat during the flood. THATS HOW OLD THEY ARE. way before turkey or azerbaijan we’re even a thing
@@movinnice1914 nice joke. If your history was ancient, many countries would know it. your history begins with the USSR taking land from Azerbaijan and giving it to armenia.
Then there’s Georgia just watching all of this happen
Georgia cannot get involved in this at all..
Georgia wants to join NATO
No Georgia's dealing with their own problems
I am a Turk of Georgian origin . But Georgia is a very weak country
Well they blockeded Armenia while Iran supported it so thats something.
"If you want peace, prepare for war"
- Latin Proverb
-Sid Meier
-James May
-Larry The Cucumber
there is subtle doctoring in the picture by VOX. just one detail: President Aliyev on 5:06 min says Karabakh - its Nagorno (mountainous part - russian langugae) and also its lowlands has belonged to Azerbaijan and is part of Azerbaijan. But the subtitles- the translation just says "Karabakh is Azerbaijan" as Aliyev saying. There is a big difference. Karabakh as a whole is a (geographic name) toponym developed not 100 or 200 years ago, But Karabakh as a region of Azerbaijan has been there for several hundred years. Nagorno is only mountainous part of it. So Mountainous Karabakh cannot be a historic land of Armenians as a toponym, which is why Armenians invented a new term Artsakh (instead Nagorno-Karabakh) unknown in any of the world maps of the last several hundred years. In order artificially to solve this problem, now, in recent one or two years, they they have come up with a new term - "lowland Artsakh" to denote the areas outside Nagorno Karabakh, which they had occupied 30 years ago. These 7 districts outside N.K. , purely Azerbaijani towns where 99 percent of the population were Azeris. Armenians then drove 700 thousand people from those towns. So until channels like VOX will not give the whole truth, it will be hard to make peace between Armenia and Azerbaijan.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
What diplomacy couldn't for 30 Years Turkish drones did it in 44 days
Actually less than 2 months it took only 44 days to humiliated surrender of occupier armenia
@@alibugraozis9721 Nahh its shorter, it is said the war was 6 weeks, but actually took only 5 weeks(not counting the 1 week of ceasefire).
Unfortunately, it is not over yet.
Nothing to celebrate.
People often forget most drones of Azerbaijan are actually Israeli made. Surely the Bayraktar TB played the most prominent role in the recent war but Israeli made harop (kamikaze and Hermes drones played a formidable part. Kamikaze drones were particularly useful in taking out armenian air defence systems.
The whole world will see the power of the Turkish nation
I hope Azerbaijan and Armenia will find a common way to coexist. Our struggles is new it started after Russia arrived to our region. Before that we have had good relations. In terms of 1915 affairs, I want both governments to open archives and let the scientists and investigators to research the topic. I am Azerbaijani -originally Kipchak from Armenia (my ancestors were orthodox christian Kipchaks) , want to see my home country Azerbaijan and homeland of my ancestors Armenia to live in peace.
Peace on you and may the suffered innocent people from both parties to rest in peace.
Hi mister, to let you know the Armenia will never open their archives and Erdogan called to wolrd to put at end on the table 3 times and they'Ill accept if it was a genocide. But Armenia is still refusing, If Armenia has the truth why are there runing away.?
Plus in Tr or Az they have many Armenians peoples living there but in Armenia i don't think as the turks can live there for their hate on them, otherwise i prefer the people live in peace and no war.
@@blackeagle958 bro whatever Erdogan or other says is different than action. This problems should be solved in mutual communication.
I personally dont like Erdogan as a politician. But the problem of opening archives, I think, originated from the fears of Russia since they dont want to lose their last destination in Caucasus. Actually Russian imperialism is the reason of all these problems between Armenian and Turkic people.
Hope we can find a way to live in peace. But first we must start to communicate, to understand each other, ignoring racists from both countries. Whatever we do, that doesnt change the reality that we are Neighbours. We are destined to live together. I prefer peace over war.
ermənilər Qıpçaq deyillər.
@@metinahmedou6372 I know that Armenians arent Kipchag but Kangar, Qazakh, Zangijurt (Land of Zangides), Lachin Abdal, Bargushat, Ayrum, Abdali people are of kipchag origin and they converted to islam later.
Putin wants USSR back Erdogan wants Ottoman Empire back . Both are evil
I read a lot of comments where Armenians are angry because Georgia didn't open the borders.We would like to remind you that in 1992, during the war in Abkhazia, the Bagramyan battalion started ethnic cleansing of Georgians. Also, during the Russian-Georgian war on August 8, 2008, Georgia was bombed from the territory of Armenia.Unlike Armenia, we took a neutral position in this war.🇬🇪❤
We always have respect to you, our neighbours :) 🇦🇿❤🇬🇪 out of topic but anyways :D
You really know the impact of historical votes on war.Loves from Turkey
@@nurlanmmmdov6687 Nə uğurlu qardaş, təbrik edirəm
Armenia had no say in that , it was Russia but Georgia had everything to say about this one
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I had been confused about the conflict earlier on this year when it was happening, and this video was the most effective at explaining it. Vox is an incredible outlet
Yeah this helped me understand the conflict better than other new channels.
@Robust Misconcepiton I think his video is very boring and I click away within minutes especially the sponsor.
It is not the best source
1)It not the area between 2 countries. Nagorno Karabakh is within Azerbaijan and surrounded by other Azerbaijani regions.
2)It doesn't belong to others than Azerbaijanis. Armenians have been settled there only 200 years ago, while Azerbaijanis were and are always there!
Too bad it didn't mention Armenians expeling women from their villages in wet clothes
this video is understandable, but that does not mean that it is true. the “Azerbaijani view” of the conflict is exclusively highlighted, not a single argument in defense of the Armenians. (although according to all the laws of history and justice, the truth is on their side)
Kim Kardashian couldn’t save Armenia
Asuuu HAHAHHA
not funny.
funny XD
Kim Kardashian is the mother of Armenians :D
she needs to offer herself to the azerbaijan army. then maybe itll work
Respect Azerbaijan from Georgia 🇬🇪💖🇦🇿
lol
And the result of this war: people's suffering.
People suffering, and military industrial complexes profiting.
Oh, if you say it you clearly do not see bigger picture, sure civilans in Barda, Ganja and other places, suffered, but at the end all of them, literally everybody in Azerbaijan was happy, bc we returned our historical regins. It is not just Shusha and Kalbajar, for us it is more tha that
That is the cost of war.
@@uzzy1364 yeah, and at the end everybody is happy
@@zikpin are you legitimately thick?
War does nothing but suffering. It causes instability and mass migration.
So no. Not everyone is happy.
"War does not determine who is right; only who is left!" - Bertrand Russell.
Well this war determined who is right. Karma got to Armenia.
@@cysage5876 bot
@@iisjebsb26378 yh definitely
@@cysage5876 Well we know who the Turks are.
Ww2? The American Civil War? You cannot possibly say that might doesn't equal right, when history is written by the victors.
Georgia: Grabs popcorn 🍿
(whilst fending off two separatist states)
and that is so sad. georgia was silent that whole time. And even blocked the bordera with armenia. And the help that was sending from armenians from whole world, was not comming due to that.
I thought armenia and georgia were friends.
Now i have really big doubts
@@BobBob-ix2ox armenians and georgians are good friends but when you talk about politics armenia sided with russia in 2008 war.
@@latveria3817 i cant talk for the whole nation, but i dont like any government too. im not talking about politics (i hate politics)
. i am talking about people. i hope two nations are still friends.
@@BobBob-ix2ox I can understand the Georgians. You dont let the russian army enter your country, rhey will never leave.
I want to correct a mistake I saw in the video. There is no such race, nation or lineage as Azeri. They come from the same lineage as the Turks of Türkiye. and the two countries have always been brothers. Nobody knows this. They are also Oghuz Turks and we call them one nation and two states. We even have a poem describing our brotherhood:
Two sons of a mother
Two branches of a tree
He is great and this is great
Azerbaijan Türkiye 🇦🇿🇹🇷
Do the same with the Tigray region in Ethiopia!
I might take a while though, their last video was in September so it seems they take a bit a time between episodes.
@@Eltener123 The Somali Civil War, the Anglophone Crisis and the Tigray Conflict could be great ideas.
i would want to hear it too i don't know anything about it
Yeah!
The conflict is still too recent yet, if they talk about it it will be in the next months when we will have more global informations
Georgia: This is so dramatic*eating popcorn*
and then Armenia goes like:“Javakheti is Armenia!”
Georgia:”Wait, hol up😳”
Hey popcorn where are Abxaziya and Osetiya.
Too right
Georgia has its own problems by losing Abkhazia to Russia. I don't think they have time for Popcorn.
Switzerland: first time
What's more fearful to me is this conflict hasn't finished and ultimately there will be another war someday.
Wars are everywhere. You just don't see it in the news unless it's in your own country.
World peace is not what it says.
@@MimOzanTamamogullar no matter how weak a country is it can still cause damage
Yes, there'll be another war in less than a decade's time
@@MimOzanTamamogullar your last point is true that Armenia isn't powerful enough to withstand Azerbaijan, but Azerbaijan didn't get all it wanted. Azerbaijan wants a corridor through Armenia territory and some parts of karabakh is still in the hands of ethnic Armenians, and Azerbaijan would like to conquer all of NK sometime in the near future when Russian troops are gone
@@MimOzanTamamogullar They did it when we had political chaos inside the country. You can search "Khojali Massacre" in February 26, 1992. That's why we waited this war over 25 years.
You missed a lot of details like not starting any war in 1994 by Armenian.They just attacked and occupied it simultaneously killing all the civilians on its way.Clear example is "Xocalı genocide".At that time where was about 1000 civilians killed just for nothing.And Azerbaijan couldn't do anything cause its weakness(it was very hard time for Azerbaijan).And during war in 2020 you missed fact that Armenians strated bombing the biggest city of Azerbaijan:Ganja.And do you know why did they do so abominable act?They wanted to provoke Azerbaijan to bomb them else cause if Azerbaijan will do it(bomb territory of Arminian government,not Karabakh)Russia will be involved in war cause contract between Russia and Armenian government.50 civilians were killed that time.And after all this acts I don't understand how could you support Armenians.
Чингиз Мустафаев расскажет тебе про Ходжалы!
@@ВигенАйвазян-п2е ?
@@ВигенАйвазян-п2е да Серж саркасян тоже
it iti tutar her zaman
7:13 „it wasn’t an fair fight“. In a war there is no such thing like a fair fight. It’s war, not a Boxing fight.
True
So they werent wrong, making your comment redundant
@@poke-champ4256 nah actually its their fault for being weak.why would you attack someone if your weaker
it was a fair fight. both sides did know what was coming soon or later. It is not unfair if one sides preparation was not enough. the armenians were sure their defence line could not be breached easily. they did not belived the turks had the courage to attack their front line at any cost. and they were sure the russians would counter attack the turks very quick. but every party has his end.
@@nihatsavmaz6677 exactly 😄
Wow! Some quality content over here. Have been subscribed to you guys for years and wasn't expecting to see any content about my homeland, Azerbaijan. I really like that you were very objective and neutral with your video. Worth to mention the high quality animations and editing skills. Thanks a lot!
"Objective" and "neutral" sometimes means lying. Lol.
Same here. Always liked Vox series.
Me too, I’m glad they are bringing awareness to this
Still, those churches which mentioned as Armenian are actually church of Caucasian Albania.
The war began and ended with no knowledge of people.
Although it was an all- out war.
Within four weeks, it was all over.
My heart with the civilian victims who have been killed in this war on both sides.
There are actually couple of skirmishes here so, um, technically...
It wasn’t an all out war, Azerbaijan used around 5% of their army unlike armenia who used 100% of their army.
@@IAsked700 Of course Azerbaycan strong to armenia
@@verdiyeva5285 obviously, the size isn’t even comparable, if Azerbaijan were to use all of their weapons, this would result in the total annihilation of armenia.
I love Azerbaijan very much, I think Karabakh is the land of Azerbaijan. There is enough evidence. Peace in the Caucasus. Greetings from Norway
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Yes Karabakh is Azerbaijan. No doubt
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Greetings from Azerbaijan
You are in the right mindset. Karabakh was the land of Azerbaijan. Armenians can claim the opposite, but it is illogical to believe in a nation that tried to take land from the Ottomans in 1900-1915 and raised rebellions for it.
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This was actually more objective than I expected, thank you for this
Genocidal army
This reply section will be fun!
@Keys & Locks Doubt
@Keys & Locks Armenia will never come back again. Because next time Azerbaijan might not accept surrender and took more lands.
@@baghirov-w2h next time I’m pretty sure Azerbaijan will surrender considering They surrender to a much weaker army in the 90s. So if Armenia and Azerbaijan in the future have some what close military equivalent, Armenia will be victorious
There is no word about Israel supplied Azerbaijan with 1.5 billion usd weapons agreement. Azerbaijan already had Israeli drones and smart weapon systems.
There is no word about Khojali genocide.
@@48ceka Because Khojali, as noted by some few Azerbaijani historians who are brave enough to speak up against the Aliyev regime despite the great restriction of freedom of speech, was not committed by Armenians but Azerbaijani soldiers. This massacre directly led to the Aliyev regime taking over and continuing to propagate this hatred of Armenians and calling for their extermination.
@@arsenjamkotchian1757 It was in 1992. The Aliev was'nt in a power.
@@48ceka nor mention about the 2-3 pogroms/ethnic cleansing against ethnic Armenians before Khojaly, including Sumgait, that started the escalations to violence.
@@arsenjamkotchian1757İt is your old tactic. Armenian genocide was not committed by Turks but Armenian soldiers.
The U in UN stands for Useless
Useless nations
@@The-ZebraFinch-Channel No Useless Nobodies
Seems like that deal is over...
Armenia didn't fullfill their part of the deal. They still have troops on Karabakh
@@MMALEAKSwhat now
World: There is no military solution in this conflict.
Azerbaijan:
armenia started the war. hear both sides of the story
@@frozenstorm158 they didnt
@ ethnic armenians
@@frozenstorm158 actually they did indeed, they occupied 7 surrounding azeri lands
@@doxxedmichael they did... And it was not even in that particular land
Peace: exists
Caucasus: We don't do that here
Middle East : Are You Challenging Me
Sub-Saharan Africa : Yes
BALKANS : Amateurs
@@tacticalterminator9477 Not worth it.
@@tacticalterminator9477 It's foolish to think that this conflict will go nuclear.
@@tacticalterminator9477 Never cared about Kashmir. Useless peace of land. Yes! Useless. Only thing I like is people. But it doesn't have any significant Geopolitics advantage or Natural resources. Doesn't have fertile land, literally 80% of the land is desert.
@@tacticalterminator9477
Yes they are being killed for a relatively useless slither of land.
"Dramaticaly surge"
That's not a surge, that's a spike
more like super saiyan morning wood
Often spike implies it's a one-time outlier or increase while and surge is an increase but usually it's more long term
Vox just wanted show that Turkey/Russia = BAD. So they portrait what will fulfil their agenda. Infact, Azari's spending huge cash on their defence since 2010, not buying weapons only from Turkey. They have Israeli drones and weapons too.
I thought it was a Brawl Stars reference
@@DiegoLopez-bc3lt English master
Excellent vid. Brief, precise, good graphics. This is as good as it gets. Thank you.
Having been to both countries. It is one of the most heartbreaking wars in recent history. There's no winner ever in wars, there's only people who suffer and torn in pieces :'(
You are dead wrong, this was a total azeri military victory and they are extremely happy about it. The only one who lost here was Armenia.
@@quisqueyanguy120 I made my point dead clear and you simply don't get it, do you?
@@quisqueyanguy120 More like turkish military victory... Azerbaijan alone wouldn't be able to do this
@Find Mind I sure got your point and I wasn't there to say who's right or wrong. Truthfully it's a long-drawn history crossing generations and so who's there to blame now. Don't think those who went to war and suffered can decide a thing in it
Keep repeating the same line for third world war or centuries later, nobody care, war still keep coming, the only one who keeping the peace is having equally destructive weapons yourself. Love and empathy are not humanity universal language, violence and fear of death is.
Thank you for bringing awareness to this
Oh, boy. I can't wait to read all the civil and respectful comments!
Surprisingly its not that bad... *so far*
For all i care russia should nuke turkey into oblivion
Azeri government bots are still asleep
@@angelobatista7005 hello bot:)
@@angelobatista7005 so Muslim bots then?
Live in peace for all civilians who survived.
Nice analysis but you skipped some major players and details, was it a naïve mistake ?:
+ Israel who has been supporting Azerbaijan years before Turkey.
+ Iran who has been supporting Armenia fearing a growing nationalism sentiment at its northern Azeri population (20+ million) once the issue is solved and additionally by fear of Israeli posts by the borders
+ France who was officially neutral and has been supporting Armenia against Turkey. Basically it was another proxy war between the two after Libya and Syria. They were taken by surprise with the Russian deal and are still trying to sabotage it.
+ Russia who has been supporting Armenia since always with military presence then their mood swayed since Pashanyan came to power and got closer to the west. All in all, Russia emerged victorious from this conflict as it got both countries by the b*lls with that deal
+ Militias: Syrians supporting Azerbaijan & and other foreigners supporting Armenia (Russian, Kurds, Yazedis, Diaspora from various countries, ...)
+ Finally International geopolitics and effect of Azeri petrol on EU countries as AZ free them partially from full RU dependency and UK given that BP has great stakes in the Azeri oil industry
Why would israel supporting azerbaijan be a mistake? It payed off since azerbaijan won didnt it?
My question is: is it a relevant issue for this video?
Actually iran favored azerbaijan at the end and stated that armenia should hand over karabakh to azeris because it's their "rightful land".
Iran supported Azerbaijan officially, because 20 million Azerbaijanis now living in North Iran. They had to do so :)
Instead, they were sending the equipment and weapon to Armenia through their border, every week! THIS is actual support.
Middle east just like a back yard play ground from country with ambition.
Seriously Vox, your graphics designer needs a huge raise
Every country would defend itself against any enemy that want to steal their land.
Very clear statement! Thanks. I wish armenians could understand it.
It was originally the land of Azerbaijan. So they took what they lost
@@jimk4213 Soviets just drew lines on a map, but the people were Armenian. Not sure I would call the land Azerbaijan's.
If its not your people that lives there, you have nothing to do with that land.
@@sal5966 darling, you don't fool anyone. Armenians are the ethnic minority there. Besides Turks are the last ones to speak about taking someone else's land. You come from the steppes of Central Asia. That land isn't yours as well as Cyprus.
2023: here we go again
"One national, two States"
This needs more attention from the world.
U like SAKURA?
@@farahanshaik8860 bruh
No it doesn’t
@Anonimuze Music he only likes quran
@Anonimuze Music and bombs probably
Need a video on the Tigrey region in Ethiopia ... Please!!!
Y do u care since ur indian
@@E25-e2w how does this relates...
Please Elaborate
@@E25-e2w Exactly... We r Global Citizens before ethnicity -_-
@@E25-e2w
What’s wrong with learning about what’s happening on this world?
@@E25-e2w Y do u care, since it's none of your business?
Again
Turkey vs Russia in everywhere. Next stop in Ukraine
Good ol proxy war
So what's Turkish influence in Ukraine???.
@@lightbulbchannel721 we sell many military tech to them one of them being drones
@@lightbulbchannel721 so ukraine can defend its self or maybe attack IDK?
@@MalKediler Well Turkish generosity is very well known. Who fly so high gonna drop on earth so painful my friend. History isn't kind to a people or man like Erdogan who play god. 😉
An important moment that needs pointing out;
Azerbaijan NEVER, not in 1990s not today had a problem with ethnic Armenians living in Azerbaijan as Azerbaijani citizens. There are still around 100.000 Armenians living in Azerbaijan.
While Armenians NEVER wanted to be neighbors with Azerbaijanis in Karabakh, they ethnically cleansed the region from Azerbaijanis. And you will not find an ethnic Azerbaijani living in Armenia today (well, except for maybe as a POW in an Armenian prison).
Azerbaijan is a multicultural and tolerant country when Armenia is a mono-ethnic country that can’t stand to live side by side with others if it has a chance not to.
What happened in Nakhivan?
what was the sumqayit pogroms and maraga massacres then?
Absolutely right This territory never been belong armani etnic population !!
@@leyldeniz9037, it's a ROFL?
Other than all the ethnic cleansings and mass murder Azeris commited against Armenians
I am from Azerbaijan and I remember waking up every morning and watching the tv with my family. And I also remember when the government banned social media until the var ended
Israel backs Azerbaijan so does Turkey but Turkey hates Israel and Iran likes Armenia which ain’t Muslim. Russia leans to Armenia because of Turkey. Turkey doesn’t like Russia but has to make deals with it. Then this past week the USA recognized the Armenian Genocide. 🤔 what a cluster F.
So what’s your opinion/views on Russia, Turkey, Iran, Israel & USA?
@@mt8956 Young turks and smart turks loves ısrail hates palastine and arabs,turkey are joker card for russia and america so turkey always changing side because russia want hot water america wants freedom :) palestine say hate words for azeirnaijan at war time but ısrael support us,ısrael
@@tewxticl8979 You are a liar Turks don;t hate Palestianians and don;t love Isarel either Turks in general are neutral but lean towards Palestinians.
@Michael Cohen We didn t killed civilians just armanian gangs,world is playing to us
@Michael Cohen can’t even be sure you are not armenian, certainly sound like one
As Muslims we should all be living in peace alongside our Armenian brothers and sisters and stop all killings on both sides. We are so quick to concern ourselves with claiming lands and forget it all belong to the almighty anyway. God made this lane for everyone to share in live in peace. ❤
The editor should get a promotion 👨💻
Hi. First about history. Why you are talking about history without referring to historical documents. Why you don’t look at the archives of Russia,Turkey,Iran,why you don’t consider the Kurekchay,Gulustan,Turkmenchay and Edirne peace agreements which clearly state that Armenians are being relocated to this region. Yes,there were Armenians in this region,but they were not in majority. Armenian majority in Nagorno-Karabakh was on the basis of these agreements. Secondly Azerbaijan buys weapons with its own money and not only from Turkey bat also from Israel,Russia,Belarus and Ukraine. However Armenia receives weapons free of charge from the countries of the OSCE Minsk Group which must be neutral. Finally Azerbaijanis living in Karabakh did not participate in the “referendum” you said and nobody recognizes this “referendum”
Senle tamamile raziyam!!!
This is simple fact.But the world never hear the simple facts :/
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It's not even a chance Turkey had to help Azerbaijan.
These countries are brother countries, it's not a strategic alliance.
It's a Turkic alliance, this channel is incredibly wrong in so much..
You are right....
It wasn't a fair war? Are you serious? Was that a fair in the beginning of 90s when Azerbaijan had no weapons and support where Armenia was backed by Russia and US? Nagorno-Karbakh was always part of Azerbaijan and will remain forever.
8:27 Armenians stormed their capitol before it was cool
I'm laughing but ashamedly
Yeah, but it wasn't to do the bidding of an orange politician.
@@ArchYeomans oh yeah, good thing the u.s government is totally the safest and most cautious government. They hate a man, so let's listen to the government lol
During the war they were hiding and after they appeared😂
lol they really did . apparently it was on their social media about how we copy them , my friend from Armenia was saying
There are wars going on literally in every continent but antártica
Just wait for the ice to melt off
Even Oceania?
Not on america
Pretty sure there aren't any wars in Australia, unless the Emu rose up once more.
@@eatingcereal5646 Yes, the Papua conflict is still ongoing although I don't know how active it currently is.
I'm absolutely certain we will all have a very civil and rational discussion in the comments.
As long as it doesn't involve India, Pakistan or Israel, there will always be a *civil and rational discussion*
So far, you are unironically right
Most of us aren’t from Armenian or Azerbaijan so it’s more chill
@@animeshkaushik6938 throw in america and china, and it will hopefully be *civil and rational*
Seems OK so far, actually.
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Remember india beat u 3 wars😂
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@@joexavier4070 what books you reading ?? 😑 throw them out they are useless
"It wasn't a fair fight" I mean, its war. What do you expect?
What he means by that is that Azerbaijanian technology was far more superior. And Azerbaijan outnumbered Armenian soldiers by a large margajn
General rule of warfare: You don't want a fair fight.
He meant that one side was much stronger than the other. Azerbaijan had a bigger and better equipped army than armenia, therefore armenia had no chance of winning a war with azerbaijan. Armenian leaders knew this very well, their only hope in case of war was that russia would intervene either by diplomatic pressure or by military intervention which they had done in the past in Georgia. They failed to realize however that russia is a declining power and has lost ground in belarus, kyrgyzstan and now here.
@@Zyllax_Gaming ya same could be said about the war in the 90’s where Armenia crushed Azerbaijan back when there were no drones. The game changed when Azerbaijan had access to drones. If Azerbaijan didn’t have drones Armenia would have had a much greater percentage of victory
@Beh Meh I mean it’s not a lie. Even with drones that Azerbaijan had. Armenia lost 5000 compared to Azerbaijan which lost more than double not including the 50k injured they had
Never knew about all this. Thanks for explaining everything
Yeah this is your problem. You believe everything what Armanians and West media say. :/
@@cemaldindar771 dude literally didn't say anything lol
@@cemaldindar771 You should not just believe what anyone says, neither west, or Armenian or Azeri for that matter.
@@cemaldindar771 Armenis betrayed me ,so I chose not to help them
I was like what are these country i never heard of and there is a vox documentary on it . It must be history but also i clicked 😂
The Caucasus is basically Balkans.02
Its like the balkans on steroids
Add some rocky mountains and a bunch of different languages and you have powderkeg
We are Kafkaz/Turk Turan people... do not mix us with you Balkans, please no disrespect but just do not.
Nah bro it’s probably even worse
Lol
not even close
May there always be peace, may our peoples live in peace and happiness, may peace be upon the war-torn Azerbaijan and Armenia
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@@binbasesatoktayyldran5236 for as long has you you comment on a peace status with a terrorist profile picture and name there will never be peace.
I wish that was the case but as you can see in these comments below
@@binbasesatoktayyldran5236 you already show massive deficit of braincells, don't blame your idiocy on facts.
Where are you from?
@@Ronny-_-7776 Yaşasın Sülh!
Americans like:
"dude what is nagreano karbak???" 🥴
"Can I eat it?"
Niggaano fatbak
Would you like us to get involved?
If it's a food then nagrano karbakh must be a new Italian pizza
Can we deep fry it?
One thing is clear, Vox videos are direct to the point and informative.
I dont like to quote Mao, but: "Keep men, lose land; land can taken again. Keep land, lose men; both men and land lost."
No I don't think china follows his principle now. Read what Indians did too them recently.
@@CosmosBFN thats cuz Deng Xiaoping made China a more capitalist authoritarian state rather than a Maoist state built on communism
Mao is pretty based
@@hwfq34fajw9foiffawdiufhuaiwfhw broke necks of 40 PLA soldiers and captured points within Chinese territory that we are holding to this day.
That's what the KMT did during Japans invasion, and it turned out horribly.
Nogorno-Karabakh was not occupied by Armenia, is went out from Sovie Azerbaijan according to Soviet laws and in accordance with all international legal norms.
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only the russians made the Karabakh autonomous by separating it from Azerbaijan and they put it under the control of azerbaijan again
Thank you for this. Was having trouble finding a good summary of events. Could you do one for Ethiopia and Tigray next?
That's why I like Vox Atlas , not arbitrarily spitting hate against Turkey and Azerbaijan
Lol turkey is bad azerbaijan committed genocide why u like them
@@abhimanyujha5550
“AzErBaIjAn CoMmItTeD a GeNoCiDe” He said while completely ignore the Hocali genocide and the ethnic cleansing campaign the armenians did in Karabakh.
A border conflict that doesn’t involve the British😮😮
You should look up Transnistria, Abchazia, South Ossetia, Donestk, Luhansk, and find that Russia is much more productive with border conflict these days than the Brits.
It does man. Britain had its intervention but from shadows.
and the USA also !! (Probably bcz of DT!!)
@@apc137_op No cause Armenia asked USA for help, but it's busy for presidential election
@@quin9627 Hopefully Biden can help them
The Armenians picked a fight with the Ottoman Empire and lost. They called it genocide.
The Armenians picked a fight with Azerbaijan and lost. They called it genocide.
There’s a pattern here.
Me: Just a light video during dinner
Me: Oh...
Glad you watched
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@Nihad Memmedli oğraş deyir ki videoya ona görə baxıram ki yemək yeyən zaman işıqlı olsun süfrə
@@nurlanshukurlu tərcüməvi oxudum yarıldım gülməkdən. Xahiş edirəm bilmədən heçkəsi günahlandırma. :) onun dediyi odu ki, yüngül videoya baxmaq istədim nahar vaxtı, ama ağır imiş. Light həm də yüngül deməkdi, işıqdan əlavə və orda heç süfrə sözü yoxdu. Təşəkkürlər.
@Nihad Memmedli mənim tərcüməmi oxu, qaqaş səhv anlayıb.
Support Azerbaijan, greetings from Malaysia
loves from Turkey.Thanks for Support :D
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Nahh, im on the Armenian side on this one
@@tonyp.1463 hahah 0k
@@tonyp.1463 Cry
thank u, this is very informative
Azerbejian didnt exist before 1920. How can they claim anything?
Us did not exist before 1776, how can they claim whole continent? I have no idea what your comment is based on?
@@elshanguliyev4804 Your comment makes no sense
@@buckshort9282 It makes a lot of sense if you understand. The fact that Azerbaijan was created in 1920 does not make it any less entitled to its land than any other state. Besides, if you think a little further, you would know that there has always been Muslim majority state in this region not necessarily called Azerbaijan. States are formed on nations. Tatars/Turks have been here since at least AD1000
30 years from now:
"And this conflict caused WW3"
Most underrated comment 😂
Nah we'll be on 4 by then
@History Hub nope there are many more bigger cause for WW3 like endya china pakistan illegally controlling Kashmir and its resources.
WW3 is next to Impossible to happen.
@some stranger legally it wasn't endya the deal was signed with Pakistan. and you being an endyan would never believe that cause you have been believing in bollywood more than reality.
5:09 Putin looks bored.
It is notable to mention that this is only the second time a nation surrendered after WW2. Surrender requires total dominance, and this means that the military gap between the nations is getting wider. This gap of militaristic power is getting wider in many parts of the world. This may sadly mean more atrocious battles in the future.
A big and shameful one after world war 2 was Pakistan army surrendering to
India- Bangladesh (mukti bahini) joint forces.
93000 pak army shamelessly surrendered in 1971 after a heinous genocide of 3 million bengali ethnic population.
@@peace163 wasn't the genocide committed by Pakistan? So how is it shameful that they surrendered? Didnt it stop the genocide so it should be seen as a good thing? ( not the genocide, the surrendering)
True, keep in mind the war did last only 44 days. Normally you need to fight 6 years to reach this kind of ending. Armenia did not have an weak army.
Here we go again
It is so funny how outsiders see these people are simpletons, but their conflicts are so complex and not so cut and dry.
People outside have their own a lots of complicated problems, and can't afford another complicated problems.
It's the simpletons that view the world in those cut and dried terms, not putting any effort into actually learning about the world , countries and cultures.
@Christhian Mejia Noriega, as far as conflicts go this one was more cut and dry than usual.
One nation illegally occupying their neighbor's lands after massacring and ethnically cleansing half a million civilians in the 1990s.
30 years later that nation comes back and pushes these illegal militia groups off it's land and returns the relatives of those who were massacred off their land.
@@williamdavis9562 bruh what? Cleansing half a million ? Please go with actual numbers , it's always annoying when people just straight up make up numbers .
@@shlomoshlomo963 They did have census numbers of that region pre war.
800,000 thousand civilians used to live there. After the war there were zero.
You do the math.
Some strange explanation for the war.
1. Armenians have always lived in Nagorno-Karabakh. But in 1995 Armenia occupied 7 regions of Azerbaijan as a buffer zone, in which Azerbaijanis and Russians have always lived. 1 million Azerbaijanis and half a million Russians were expelled from there.
2. The UN Security Council has adopted resolutions 4 times demanding the liberation of Azerbaijani lands, and Russia, as a permanent member, also voted for this. Armenia itself did not recognize the independence of Nagorno-Karabakh.
3. In connection with the above, Russia supplied new military equipment to Armenia, provided that it did not appear in Nagorno-Karabakh. Russia, Azerbaijan and Turkey kept a watchful eye on this, so only old Soviet weapons remained in Nagorno-Karabakh.
4. The Armenian army did not officially participate in this war because it had a collective security agreement with Russia. In case of participation of official Yerevan in the war, it would be the aggressor and all obligations of Russia were canceled.
Russians never lived in Karabakh or bordering provincess. Only some russians lived in Baku.
@@emilturangi7145 Is your head all right? All Armenia and Azerbaijan were part of Russia. Azerbaijan has never had statehood at all. These were nomadic tribes in Persia. All Azerbaijanis were created by Russians.
@@УДачныйучасток-я1е "...Azerbaijan has never had it statehood"
C.Albania, Atropatena, Shirvan Shahs, Ganja khanate, Iravan khanate, Derbend khanate, Ardebil khanete, Tabriz khanate, Safavids/Kisilbash State, Afsharids, Kajars and only then AzDR.
So before opening your mouth think a bit. Russians never respected other nations history, and no one will respect theirs. Remember that.
@@emilturangi7145 You tell these tales to someone who does not know history. At the beginning of 1801, the ambassadors of the Talysh, Baku and Cuban khanates arrived at the court of Emperor Alexander I in order to negotiate the conditions for joining Russia. The fact of the accession of Eastern Georgia to Russia in the same 1801 played an important role in the success of the negotiations.
On September 12, 1801, the Tsar's manifesto was promulgated on the annexation of the Kartli-Kakhetian kingdom to Russia. The Georgian province was formed, at the head of which was the commander-in-chief of the troops and the civilian ruler. This province also included a part of the territory of Azerbaijan - Gazakh, Borchali and Shamshadil sultans, which were in vassal dependence on the Kartli-Kakhetian kingdom and together with the latter were annexed
@@emilturangi7145 C.Albania isn’t Azerbaijan 😂. You’re literally making yourself look slow. If you care to shock yourself I dare you to google who created the Caucasian Albanian script
If armenia aimed freedom for Nagorno Karabakh,they must also gave Zangazur region to Azerbaijan with same logic.
Exactly...
based on what ? Siunik or Zangezur as you call it has no Azeri population , I do not see the logic here
@@JohnSmith-ve6sd How do you expect Azeri population there when Armenians expelled them all in 80s?
We fought ,you won ,then we won ,let's end this and live in peace, because we Caucasian know how to fight ,but also know how to live in peace and hospitality