Messing Around with Polearms
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- Just a quick casual practice session, exploring different techniques and strategies for using a halberd or poleaxe. Might as well put it up, right?
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The adult version of fighting in the backyard with sticks.
Just two dudes messing with each other's poles, how nice.
These replies are even spicier oh dear, calm yourselves!
Getting to know eachother...
🤣😂🤣😂
Yep they both wacking eachothers exceptionally large sticks
As a lacrosse player, I approve
Just the tips, bro. Very manly.
Definitely like this type of video. Would love to see more testing/sparring vids like this, perhaps with added commentary at various points describing what you discovered/what happened in a bit more depth.
I agree with you
I agree! He used to do this type of thing a lot more 7 or 8 years ago, it's nice to see him going back to it :)
True, would love to see more of that. Theyre short, educational, and lightly entertaining at the same time.
I liked the metal whip sparring more. Wish we still had the original uncut version. That thing was hillarious.
Yeah. This guys videos single-handedly inspired me to take into consideration, more realistic approaches to weapon handling in my fantasy book.
I’m still pretty vague about describing a “barrage” of attacks, but if it ever got animated I’ve been having it in my head too. It’d be awesome to have more physical stuff to examine from the master himself!
I have one scene where the MC gets into a locked sword stance with one of the main villains, he ends up swinging out his opponents blade and switching to a half blade technique, stabbing through his opponents armor gaps. Never would have thought about that before lol.
With enough grace, you could call sparring with polearms... pole dancing
Don't mind if I dosido
Polearm master Feat: You gain the following benefits:
When you take the Attack action and attack with only a glaive, halberd, quarterstaff, or spear, you can use a bonus action to make a melee attack with the opposite end of the weapon. This attack uses the same ability modifier as the primary attack. The weapon's damage die for this attack is a d4, and it deals bludgeoning damage.
While you are wielding a glaive, halberd, pike, quarterstaff, or spear, other creatures provoke an opportunity attack from you when they enter the reach you have with that weapon.
That feat always made me wonder why the shaft attack didn't deal quarterstaff damage (1d8). I always allow my players to use the shaft of any polearm as an improvised staff.
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Because adding on another full d8 of damage every turn would be really good, on top of the other part of the feat being insanely good.
Sounds like something out of KOTOR.
i like how d&d 5e has glaives and halberds which are mechanically redundant and then doesn’t have lucerne hammers which would fill the bludgeoning reach weapon gap
oh wait no i don’t like that
Justice for tridents. One day I can play my trident wielding triton paladin and not have to worry about not being able to take a feat tridents should definitely fall under.
I'm glad you two showed the butt fighting. I see so many people try and fight with poleaxes using the head part first, when it's really unwieldy like that. Using the butt to find an opening, then big swing, works like a charm.
Butt fighting... I think there's an anime about that.
Poorly chosen jokes aside it is interesting to see that.
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Ah, keijo. I remember that
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Here you can see more of it in poleaxe-fighting
It's always interesting to see the natural way to use a halberd kind of coming forth. Hold it out in front, keep it mobile, poke mostly, occasionally chop. These practice ones also really undersell the hooking parts of it because the hooking bits have to be pretty padded, while on a real halberd or billhook, those hooks are pretty thin and sharp, really good for tangling up someone's weapon so you can follow up or leave him exposed for someone else.
You can also do really good push cuts with a halberd. Even if you miss the thrust, the axe head could still connect and cut, either on the way in or on the way out.
Not gonna lie, I like these more casual/experimental videos where you just test stuff. Like, you be you and stuff.
1:13 I'd like to see more on this, recovery from hooking. My intuition is to push in and try to deflect the opponent's weapon to one side in order to make an opening but I also know that one goal of sparring is to show where intuition can get you killed. Thoughts?
from my experience there is no recovery, they all end up on the streets again eventually.
@@felipex6793 Okay, that earned a RL lol.
More of this please . Excellent to see you sparring again .. You've got skills Skall .
Nevertheless, you guys are still teaching me something. Great video!
Love to see stuff like this, thanks for uploading!
Skall's pole is a mighty thing~
This was a surprisingly entertaining video to watch! Also love the background music 😊
Replace the caps with slightly longer pointier ones.
The Sauroter is, without doubt, the supreme attachment for the butt of any polearm.
I believe the point of practice weapons is to NOT run eachother through.
@@webbowser8834 Obviously. I'm not saying "use a real one" you bampot, i'm suggesting that's what should be on the bottom of the practice weapon so they could.. ah yes, *practice* with how they'd incorporate a second attack point, into their style.
I love the polearm content lately. They're underrated, I tell you!
Everybody talks about Pop and Rap but no one talks about medieval music, quite underrated tbh
Thanks for being you skall you da man
Honestly I’ve always been a little fascinated by the halberd. I see a lot of fantasy interpretations that I don’t like, but I’ve always thought it was a great weapon for any fighter type character.
Maybe that’s just because most of my experience with hand to hand weapon training was with a bayonet in the marines, but I see some halberd techniques and can’t help but harken them back to some of the strikes they taught me.
But I’m rambling now, I just think Halberds are criminally underutilized in fantasy.
Same!! They're kind of the ultimate medieval weapon imo. Able to chop like an axe with better reach, or stab like a spear with better control/defensive opportunities.
Plus there's something weirdly kind of noble looking about a lot of the movements and the profile of the weapon.
It should absolutely be used more in medieval fantasy, 100%
@@PhyreI3ird Hence the very good reason why halberds, polax and poleaxes or even the Crows Beak (bec de corbin, whichever your preference) were the type regarded as a "swiss army knife" of polearms. Near endless problems you can solve with.
I can see that with bayonets! Especially with older rifles and muskets, it basically turned one's longarm into a spear. It's weird that Western fantasy seems to sleep on polearms for maces, where Eastern fantasy does that in reverse. Halberds are incredibly versatile weapons and that aside, there's something just plain regal about the fancier historical ones. Heck, the humbler ones like Skall and his buddy's practice versions are still "handsome", for a lack of a term thereof.
most halberds and polearms I have seen in fantasy are generally delegated to guard duty.
@@Arcangel0723 In a way that would make some sense, since they'd quickly be worth something against heroes or criminals... just not very good in close quarters, hence why i say "in a way"
It's kinda cool the similar strikes they have to our native Maori Martial art called mau rakau. Would love to see your take on Mau rakau Skall, love the vids.
If you have a native pole arm, (beyond the obvious spear) it stands to reason that there's great similaritie. There's only so many ways to efficiently and effectively move a polearm around, after all
@@torg2126 we do have a similar weapon which is called a Taiaha, I guess you would class it as a quarter staff but as a person who has practiced a bit of it I can say it's not to be underestimated.
@@hendrieksedmonds-pene7866 No quarter staff type weapon is to be underestimated. That's how swordsmen get their asses kicked by random farmers
@@torg2126 Amen to that bro.
I also want you to cover Maori martial arts.
Fascinating stuff
Watching this I continuously heard Matt Easton in the background, going :"On this channel, we love grabbing the shaft. I recommend you guys grab the shaft as often as possible."
i would love to see more vids like that
Nice, I like this topic about polearms and war hammers:)
Cool video; looks fun.
That was fun. I want a turn now!
Watching this my ADD brain got distracted by the difference in the footwork between Skall and his opponent. Might be a function of training or whatever but was interesting to see the difference in body mechanics in addition to the gradual exploration of various attacks and counters
Very interesting stuff!
You figured it out very well :)
Absolute unit
The advantage of the halberd was seen when only one side (like the swiss) used them while the other side did not.
I think they're actually the only ones still using them. Take a look at the swiss guards at the Vatican, they're still issued halberds. I assume they're somewhat trained to use them as well.
What's the name of the battle(s) you're referring to? Sounds like some interesting reading to be done
DEnjoyed this even more than I thought. It was fun doing my own observations. Has any other fan done an analysis video?
More of these kind of short random training with weapons vids please.
That man has a glorious beard!
Alternate title: Two men play with each other's poles
polearms are underrated. video was fun to watch, hi five!
Also you can go for the legs and feet. It's really easy with a polearm to push people to the ground.
Polearms are the best and most amusing to use. Ahhh I miss the good days when I could practice hema
More please!
Duel of epic beards!
Just two guys poking their poles at each other. Good times.
Cool music! 😎
Looks like Skall has discovered the advantage of hand sniping.
Just count how many times the other guy might have been tagged in the hands. Gauntlets taken into account, a few of them might have gotten through the seams.
and let's not forget that the repeated shock might have made the hands numb and painful even if they didn't get through.
That said, if you are hand sniping, remember to controll your power. Hands are easy to urt, and if you start hurting your training/sparring partners, nobody is going to want to train with you.
@@scottmacgregor3444 don't I know it... I was a larper and used a bit of real swords for training between the age of 8 to near my 30's, I lost 1/3 of a lung, my left knee is shot and my hands are full of arthritis due to training. I'll be 38 soon and I feel in worse shape than my 90 years old grandpa does.
my favorite weapon type is spears so I'm happy.
Just made a Pathfinder character specializing in the ranseur, might use some ideas from this to describe what he's doing.
I am definatly interested in halberd combat.
This is the best time it’s great if you have at least 5 guys not too hot headed and it is always good for different perspective
Interesting video, when I was younger, I remember seeing some Kung Fu/Wushu staff forms that did not make any sense to me. After seeing this, some of the forms I do recognise and make more sense now.
Looks fun, wish there was a place to practice formally in nova scotia. We have been desperately needing one.
There are a couple in NS. Check out the HEMA Alliance website and find the HEMA club finder under resources. It has the best listing of HEMA clubs I'm aware of.
@@scottmacgregor3444 oh I see them, one near pentz and another in digby. It's a little far for me cause I don't have a car Sadly.
I guess I will wait for one to open near halifax.
I think there is an sca in dartmouth or something but I hear they are less about hema and more about reenactment.
the major disadvantage of Halberds is in the short edge length.
Gotta say after watching some videos Pole arms are really cool
Looks just like the medieval manuscripts
Hey, Skall! Great video, love the light sparring.
I had an idea of a video for you, have you ever made a video on the best weapon to fight large wildlife, say, a bear or a lion? I was thinking a zweihander but so not practical for hiking/transporting it unless you're on horseback. Swords and polearms, spears? Thanks, keep doing your thing!
Are these practice halberds still available on purpleheart?
Yep. Under European Martial Arts - Pole Weapons.
www.woodenswords.com/?Click=1799
Nice.
Super light spar like this is cool to see, obviously the critique types will rant but - I’d have no idea how to “properly hold it” unless you showed me first.. lol
1:19 looks like the pole cure push battle maneuver.
Good, Lots of padding is good for safety
Yes.
the same things can totally be done with the English billhook as well.
Commenting for the algorythm cuz i like this
The character design went 📈📈📈
Ahhh, a worthy opponent.
That man has a BEARD.
Who has the bigger one? We will never know, but comparing is still fun.
"Mom ! The wierd dude brought an other wierd dude !"
A lot of these moves are similar to tenshin shoden katori shinto ryu kata with Bo an Naginata.
My Aikido sensei likes to test stuff out on the joh to refresh us on movement and angles, always safely, but man just a little bop on the thumb and that thing is sore for a month.
*SHOVE ON RED intensifies*
All polearms shoulda had a double stud fork pommel at the bottom for catching weapons and poking through armor. Not so long that its a fork but not too small that its a double stud. Maybe like two 1 inch spikes at the bottom. I guess it would be a pronged fork.
Lawbringer intensifies
2 guys playing with their shafts together.
I wonder where can i find a Training Jūmonji or Jogekama Yari for training.
How does it feel to switch your lead hand? I know hardly anything about fighting with polearms, but I've always been curious about which grip feels more natural or comfortable, a left-hand lead or a right-hand lead. Right hand lead feels like something I would use for chopping or striking, probably because it is how one naturally holds a sword or two-handed axe. But for thrusting, left hand makes sense to me because that is how I, as a right-handed person, typically use a rifle or shotgun.
I feel like a left-hand lead can help, as most people are right-handed. I can't imagine it'd be easy to block a halberd with a arming sword. That said, I have little to no experience with polearms. Just learning and half-assed training with a staff.
Nice sparring!
where can i get the halberd head?
I need two Hands for My shaft too but ITS Not a poleaxe
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Check out mau rakau that's how you use a stick😁
Two bearded men using halberds
Bruh lmao POLLARMS 🤣
Just poking at one another until you find a place to make a big swing.
¿Could you do rapier and smallsword sparring?
Damn didn’t know this was a LotR trailer. Who plays the dwarf?
Ah, yes. The age old art of touching tips.
Got a bit distracted by his impressive beard yours is nice to but kinda used to it
I’d kill for someone to spar with.
I don't have anyone to spar with either unfortunately. Thankfully I do Sabre, which can be done alone up to a certain point (such as drilling footwork, memorizing cuts, exercising the cuts, etc.)
But I can't do other forms of combat like halberd, dagger, sword and buckler, longsword, or spear, as most of those require a partner
I was thinking of just taking the axe head off and throw it at the sucker. :D
Jokes aside seeing this makes me wanna get my own halberd and mess with it, one day >:3.
Could You sparring whit non metal weapons as they azteca macahuitl
Armors
just as i was buying a halberd
The offense with a pole arm always seems strionger than the defense.
It's not easy to defend against a thrust.
Comparing to a swipe
Upload the full recording with only the dead parts you are afk edited out and I will watch every hour
Would polearms be effective against walking dead style zombies
Spears? Probably not. Halberds? Good enough, but not indoors.
Disclaimer; I don't know what I'm talking about.
Why do you think people chose a mail coif over a helmet?
Now this video is a classical example of what boys will be boys means. Not harassing girls, but Skall I think your wife likes it when you do.
For the people saying that this is halberd fighting I have to disagree. Too short to be halberds from what I know, these are much more like poleaxes.
The weapon’s head seems around user eye level to me, so that definitely fits the upper range of poleaxe lengths. The head pretty clearly looks to represent a halberd head though, certainly more than a poleaxe head. Are there no halberds this length on the shorter end of the spectrum? My thought is that these would be undersized halberds to use in formation on the battlefield, but they might work well for fancy bodyguards or something. This also makes more sense for the bigger sweeping motions, which wouldn’t work as well in a tight formation.
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One thing i don't know is, are those practice weapons of the same weight as real ones?
If so, then with a halberd you can be pretty agile!
I was going to use the movements for my drawings, and i was questioning if those movements were accurate