50 Years of Soaps pt 1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ต.ค. 2024
- This was a special that aired on CBS in October of 1994. This segment was hosted by Peter Bergmann Robin Strasser and Kristian Alfonso. It features a segment on Super Couples - Phil Tara (AMC) Victor Nikki (Y&R) Roman & Marlena (DOOL) Neil Drucilla (Y&R) Adam Erica (AMC)
Dear God, that opening montage of clips from so many shows!. Amazing -- and really is what daytime used to be about. What people don't realize is that the professionals who put these shows on back then really UNDERSTOOD what daytime drama was and it was their craft and therefore it was done to a magnificence. They have passed on now, and the persons replacing them really are not masters of this genre and it has really shown in the last decade or so.
I wonder how many soaps would still be on if not for the OJ trial.
Jack The MAN what do you mean by thanks comment ?
Isn't it amazing. Robert Milli played Wayne Addison on Another World then played Les Bogard on All My Children. Michael Zaslow played his Son Roger Thorpe to his Adam Thorpe. Michael worked on All My Children's Sister Show One Life To Live then Wrote for Another World.
Thanks for telling me babe! I didn't know that. I heard that Ilene Kristen also was in Grease which I think is next to Dreamgirls one of the Broadway Plays that a lot of Soap Actors appeared on.
love the flashbacks of y&r
I stand corrected. I think that I got my info from a Magazine that may have given the info wrong. Thanks for the info.
I'm also surprised "Ryan's Hope" didn't get specially mentioned seeing as, at the time, Helen Gallagher was working on AMC and Nancy Addison Altman was working on LOVING. I think Bernie Barrow may have already passed away at this point but he may well have been alive and on LOVING as Louie Slavinsky as well.
They need to this again
Kristin looks like a Robert Palmer dancer from "Addicted to Love." LOL
@soapfan88 I stand corrected. I live in Canada and they stopped Broadcasting RH in 1984 where I am and I thought it was off the air permanently. We didn't even get Santa Barbara which I would have loved to have watched back in the day. : - (. Thanks for the info, greatly appreciated.
And also Ilene Kristen, who played Delia, then on to OLTL as Roxy, who needs to be added BACK to the cast of the new online version.
thanks for the info right there, mate :)
Really appreciate it.
And to think, this kind of special only was put together *once*, and aired just *once* The attempts at interviews and things on SoapNet's old "Soap Talk" show notwithstanding...
I guess that's what makes this show (despite any flaws) special, it captured a moment in soap history and featured many of those past and present who brought them to life.
It was called Ryan's Hope and it was on ABC from 1974-1983. Christian Slater, Tisha Campbell and even Earl Hindman (Wilson) from Home Improvement got their start on this show. It was about a Irish Catholic Family who ran a Bar in NY and their Familes & Friends.
Tichina Arnold not Tisha Campbell
@@markdewaynegoins I stand corrected.
Tichina Arnold was on Ryan's Hope
I never knew Roman and Marlena had such chemistry.
Hard to believe this was over 15 years ago. Soaps were a different world then...
Anyone remember "Secret Storm"? Is that one covered in this program? I'm just beginning to watch it.
wow wonderful special tribute indeed. Anyway, who's at 3 : 29? from which soaps?
Thanks.
Cheers!
.... Stuart Damon, Kimberlin Brown, Tom Hallick, Lisa Peluso, Tristan Rogers, Jess Walton, Frances Reid (with Bill Bell in the background), Kristian Alfonso, Elizabeth Hubbard, John McCook, Mary Beth Evans, John Reilly (with Kate Mulgrew behind him), and Robin Strasser.
Arriving at the beginning: Ellen Dolan, Bill/Susan Seaforth Hayes, Helen Wagner, Victoria Wyndham/Charles Keating, Peter Bergman, Victoria Rowell, Nicolas Coster, Kelly Ripa, Stephen Nichols, Hunter Tylo, James Mitchell, Louise Sorel, Frank Dicopoulos, Sharon Wyatt, ??, Robert Kelker-Kelly, Stephen Schnetzer (& wife), Linda Dano, J. Eddie Peck, Eileen Fulton, Don Hastings, Jacklyn Zeman, Don Diamont, Melina Kanakaredes, Shemar Moore, Denise Alexander, Erika Slezak, ?? (she was on AMC), ....
I think they were meaning around the world, at the time...Robin does say "a worldwide audience". The Spanish-language "novelas" are still phenomenally popular.
Actually, yes there should have been actors there from the show and more clips, but there was just the 1 in this segment, in the opening towards the last when Geraldine toasts "To moments past, and moments yet to come", from the Edge finale ep. I guess if the special were more like 3 hours long there would have been more time.
The older couple kissing is Lionel (Nicolas Coster) and Augusta (Louise Sorel) on Santa Barbara; the next is Maeve (Helen Gallagher) and Mary (Kate Mulgrew) with a political poster of Frank (Maeve's son/Mary's brother) on the debut ep Ryan's Hope from 1975.
I think that more would have been done to show RH except the special really wasn't long enough. At least they have Mary and Maeve embracing in the clips open and they squish the Ryan political poster (from the RH debut ep). Plus later on in the special, Nancy Addison Altman and Kate Mulgrew are shown sitting together at one of the tables in the audience. You are right GenX, Barrow died in August of 1993, 14 months before this special.
Weird, maybe, but in the first segment they're going with how long they've been on TV. They're using the 2 soaps Dumont's network tested in 1944 as what they consider the first TV soaps (even though they credit Irna's first radio soap later in the show).
LOL, OMG, she really does!
I wonder if this is available on DVD
Wow, soaps used to be SO AMAZING.
I never got to watch it....SS is mentioned once during the segment about soap creators. No clips or actors from the show, though.
the drapes of her living room, I think :P
It would be somewhere in the 1983-1985 timeframe. No, I don't have it, and wish I did.
Maybe Robert Kelker Kelly wanted to be in a music video too - in the audience with shades on -- I wear my sunglasses at night..
This makes me sad. There's only 4 daytime soap operas, and they're barely hanging on. Barely funded, too. A seasoned daytime actor could make millions if they stayed with his or her show, especially Emmy winners.
Robin Strasser is daytime royalty from originating the role of Rachel on another world and found her home on both all my children and especially as Doctor Dorian Lord on OLTL which she got no respect from show producers for being a fan favorite.
Daytime needs to be daytime television again. Having just 4 shows when there use to be 10. Not to mention the social topics.
If Spanish soaps are still popular, I refuse to believe that daytime can't be.
I guess they think it's too much trouble and not enough fans would buy them. At least the Soapclassics website is trying, with their ATWT & GL offerings (and hopefully AW, Edge, and the other P&G soaps that were saved, later on).
RH ran from 1975-1989
Too bad OJ Simpson's personal drama turned daytime television upside down! :( I still don't think daytime has recovered.
So much has happened. The Matriarchs are dead, legends are dead. Many of them are out of work or retired. I see Shemar Moore who went from being a New Kid wet behind the ears to a modern day success story. I look at UK Soaps and I see how different they are from US Soaps. Where Soaps started on the Radio in the 1930's the First UK Soap Coronation St., that debuted in a Live Performance in 1960 on December 9 is still going strong which was inspired by The Novel Saturday Night & Sunday Morning by Allan Sillitoe about a working class hero. US Soaps had glamour, UK Soaps were more Blue Collar. In fact on Coronation St., they are planning to "Clean House" letting go several actors having it's second Disabled Actress on the show, not to mention having an Black Family that never existed although they had Black Characters and never had a Black Barmaid. Despite everything, they are still on the Air and US Soaps aren't. They also were ahead of their time doing Gay/Lesbian Storylines.
That's a great question. I actually grew up watching EON - it was so scary to me as a child. Also not included was Capitol, one of my favorites as a teenager. I suppose it has to do with who owned each soap.
LOL!
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100 MILLION VIEWERS! NOT ANYMORE, LOL!
LOL ahem Lucci didn't start anything about preferential treatment...the network merely pushed her and as a result daytime actually flourished once the LONE household name rejuvenated an already forceful genre. If you want reasons behind daytime's obsolete nature, try network interference, mediocre writers, expensive plot driven location shoots.
After all, if it was all about her, why did the woman graciously agree to hefty pay cuts over time? Dislike her all you want but at least know the facts
... and I would hardly include "Neil & Drucilla" in the classic couples salute. On another note, Lucci's performances were always way over the top in my opinion thus giving daytime drama a bad name.
does anyone have a clip from 6:34 to 6:56?