I always skip the rifleman and go for the weapons support center. Using your paratroopers as the mainline is just so strong especially when you can just hang on to your resources so you can grab either a browning or bazooka upgrade. So strong
@@speengames3565 They won’t have the AA ready by the time you’ve dropped probably 2-3 paratroops. At that point you can also just start dropping them in your base if you lose a squad.
@@nicopoiduang5560 but its a waste, by then you've dropped at min 2 units of paratroopers. IF you need more just drop them in your base or something. The point is that you do not need to back tech for infrantry sections (unless you are starving for a mortar), just go straight into a grey hound and poop on them
Came back to say I have used this build. I like it a lot. Service and hold until Sherman’s. Be SUPER annoying with Pathfinders. Be VERY careful with your quad and keep it at range. This is a great build. Great success! Thanks I was in a bit of a rut before this! Remember this is one build of many people :)
Really appreciate this Guide! I find CoH rather hard and this helps a lot getting a feeling for it. Good format wirh theory flowing into real gameplay. Keep the vids going bro!
Nice build. I like to build engineers right off the bat, using them and the starting riflemen to cap the flanks, then a HMG to cap the middle. From there it's just reading the opponent/map for either another HMG, or bazookas, sometimes a sniper. After that i normally skip to the big tanks. I actually really like to use the engineers to build defenses. On this map i like to put a HMG and sniper in the building that overlooks those 3 points on the southeast. I build sandbags too for anti tank and barb wire so they can't flank way south. It worked really well one time! Most memorable battle yet! So glad they brought this game to the xbox!!! 😁😁
I found going 4 path finders is VERY oppressive early game mainly because they become 4 man squads that do good damage with free flairs and free smokes and a cheap rifle grenade then tec into the captain and get the half track with the quad-mount upgrade and maybe an MG then you build what the situation calls for, this worked well in 4v4 for me
This is pretty good, but be careful v dak since they can make mortycycles and 250 carriers to stop from bleeding. The lack of snares means that if you do not play carefully with your pathfiders you may find yourself being chased down by a clown car of a pio flammer in the 250. The quad mount can shread it, but by this time either your going to soon meet the panzer jager or the RAT that you cant pen well.
Hey, coh 2 veteran here. just wanted to say, the overall guide is good, the build order is interesting. but there is something I want to mention: the medicine building is ESSENTIAL. Otherwise you can't fight off your enemy cause your infantry is half dead. you need something to heal up all your units at least when you get out 4-6 units. the tank rush isn't necessary, for example I would not even call the paradropped AT, just 2 bazooka squads, or maybe 1 bazooka squad and 1 AT. So you have a mobile unit to poke enemy vehicle, and an AT to control part of the map against enemy vehicles. also, that one flamethrower panzer is totally countering that 1 AT gun, with a little micro control he'll just go around your AT and will make a steak from it. and that's why, I think that you should have at least one mobile unit to fight off that panzer. In addition, something I've noticed from playing COH3, the rifle men are best at close-medium range, so against infantry that is good in long range combat you need to close the distance with them. Another thing, if your MG is getting somehow flanked - just retreat. the same rule apply to a single unit fighting the whole enemy army. btw, if you get a vehicle out, be sure you have an engineer squad, or at least enough men-power to get them out with a new built vehicle, cause a beat up vehicle is just useless. and overall, nice guide :D
Thanks for the critique, this was my first iteration that has been working well for me. Plan to apply some of these tips and will probably make another build in the future!
u rock my man, keep it up! trying to get better with US , love to play the weaker factions (like China when AoE4 came out) , its hard but requires more skill!
i always skip the barracks go pathfinder upgrade -> enginners -> support building -> machinegun crew -> pathfinder -> paras and then maybe another machinegun... give you good control
Very good build. Tried skip riflemen build. So insane good when playing multiplayer. Also had hard time to get Shermans so I fixed 2 Half tracks, one track as aa-gun and the other as medic! insane good build + good when get attacked with grenades. Also engineers are need to keep tracks alive. Late game sent in hell cat. No sherman.
Hello, great guide, great video. I'm just wondering why you go with the infantry support building rather than getting the upgrades for armor (mechanized support building). Is it only for the cpt ? Thx
@@PatwasPolska good catch. I think getting Captain Retinue gives great retreat options to a forward med truck, and you can also boost your infantry stats into the later stages of the game. I've used each of them, and really all are viable.
@@FitzBro I pulled it from another video, but looks like scouts/pathfinders cap at 13.5s while most other units take 16-20s. th-cam.com/video/ZAMf0YcYT8o/w-d-xo.html
The broad parts make sense, but why is the machine gun so important? I'd think most people would start going light vehicles if they see you're probably rushing tanks.
Usually there's Berg spam to deal with or other infantry that a machine gun can help pin down, while your rifle squads w/grenades can deal with light vehicles. You can also swap this out for bazooka if needed or a sniper.
It is a skin that I think was unlocked with a special edition of the game. Maybe you can unlock it in the game? You can equip it in loadout in the main menu.
To be honest, the guide is nice and all, but you should really fit in a medicine tent...half the time your troops went off fighting with half health but full model-strength. You get easily wiped on that units. Just as a friendly reminder :) otherwise, keep up the good work !
I like to save on the fuel to get my tanks out sooner, but it definitely a risky move. I do add the medical tent in a lot of cases. Every game is different of course.
I have a hard time making riflemen valid, they need upgrades but their upgrades are so expensive that I feel it's not worth the cost. I think it's better to stick with pathfinders and airborne and go for vehicles.
I only make 2 and get the grenade package. It really helps deal with those vehicle openings, but if they are spamming infantry, I'll save res and not get it.
I really think airborne are underpowered. I don't see why you would use this over the SSF units in the special operations trees. Its a one all be all anti-tank, anti-infantry for only like 100 more manpower. You don't need fuel or munitions for them as they can switch to bazookas on the fly. I can see them getting nerfed or the other trees and factions being buffed once people learn just how broken a good couple squads of SSF with maybe 1 light tank for support on MG teams.
To me it seems these build order guides seem to focus on battlegroups that can get stuff out immediately and are perhaps stronger in early game capping to get resource lead and perhaps even end game quickly. Ssf commandos are probably bit slower to get.
Hard mode activated - but seriously, I'm still figuring out the best way to utilize unit control groups in this game since I don't want to bunch them up and might move them throughout the map.
Dang its looks exciting ! BUT while i live in Ukraine i already when sleep see dreams with air rocket raids and with military troops. Imagine what could i see in a night dreams if I start play this game )
I always skip the rifleman and go for the weapons support center. Using your paratroopers as the mainline is just so strong especially when you can just hang on to your resources so you can grab either a browning or bazooka upgrade. So strong
what if your opponent rushes AA guns you cant drop paratroopers mid fight anymore
@@speengames3565 They won’t have the AA ready by the time you’ve dropped probably 2-3 paratroops. At that point you can also just start dropping them in your base if you lose a squad.
@@wyattwelton8599 oh the germans can build AA at the start of the game, 200mp and 20 fuel (or 25 I don't remember)
@@nicopoiduang5560 but its a waste, by then you've dropped at min 2 units of paratroopers. IF you need more just drop them in your base or something. The point is that you do not need to back tech for infrantry sections (unless you are starving for a mortar), just go straight into a grey hound and poop on them
Are barebone paratroopers better than barebone infantry sguad? Better baseline stats? Better accuracy or smth?
Came back to say I have used this build. I like it a lot. Service and hold until Sherman’s. Be SUPER annoying with Pathfinders. Be VERY careful with your quad and keep it at range.
This is a great build. Great success! Thanks I was in a bit of a rut before this!
Remember this is one build of many people :)
Really appreciate this Guide! I find CoH rather hard and this helps a lot getting a feeling for it. Good format wirh theory flowing into real gameplay. Keep the vids going bro!
Nice build. I like to build engineers right off the bat, using them and the starting riflemen to cap the flanks, then a HMG to cap the middle. From there it's just reading the opponent/map for either another HMG, or bazookas, sometimes a sniper. After that i normally skip to the big tanks.
I actually really like to use the engineers to build defenses. On this map i like to put a HMG and sniper in the building that overlooks those 3 points on the southeast. I build sandbags too for anti tank and barb wire so they can't flank way south. It worked really well one time! Most memorable battle yet!
So glad they brought this game to the xbox!!! 😁😁
I found going 4 path finders is VERY oppressive early game mainly because they become 4 man squads that do good damage with free flairs and free smokes and a cheap rifle grenade then tec into the captain and get the half track with the quad-mount upgrade and maybe an MG then you build what the situation calls for, this worked well in 4v4 for me
Fitzyhere says he opens with x4 pathfinders too. Sounds fun! I struggle versus berg spam with this strategy.
This is pretty good, but be careful v dak since they can make mortycycles and 250 carriers to stop from bleeding. The lack of snares means that if you do not play carefully with your pathfiders you may find yourself being chased down by a clown car of a pio flammer in the 250. The quad mount can shread it, but by this time either your going to soon meet the panzer jager or the RAT that you cant pen well.
Hey, coh 2 veteran here.
just wanted to say, the overall guide is good, the build order is interesting. but there is something I want to mention: the medicine building is ESSENTIAL.
Otherwise you can't fight off your enemy cause your infantry is half dead.
you need something to heal up all your units at least when you get out 4-6 units.
the tank rush isn't necessary, for example I would not even call the paradropped AT, just 2 bazooka squads, or maybe 1 bazooka squad and 1 AT. So you have a mobile unit to poke enemy vehicle, and an AT to control part of the map against enemy vehicles.
also, that one flamethrower panzer is totally countering that 1 AT gun, with a little micro control he'll just go around your AT and will make a steak from it. and that's why, I think that you should have at least one mobile unit to fight off that panzer.
In addition, something I've noticed from playing COH3, the rifle men are best at close-medium range, so against infantry that is good in long range combat you need to close the distance with them.
Another thing, if your MG is getting somehow flanked - just retreat. the same rule apply to a single unit fighting the whole enemy army.
btw, if you get a vehicle out, be sure you have an engineer squad, or at least enough men-power to get them out with a new built vehicle, cause a beat up vehicle is just useless.
and overall, nice guide :D
Thanks for the critique, this was my first iteration that has been working well for me. Plan to apply some of these tips and will probably make another build in the future!
@@FitzBro happy to help bro! keep up with the quality content! the coh community lacks good content creators.
The annoying thing about US how much fuel you have to waste to try and tech up. Having to spend 20 fuel for the healing tent is painful.
building the scouts before clicking the upgrade saves a ton of manpower btw.
u rock my man, keep it up! trying to get better with US , love to play the weaker factions (like China when AoE4 came out) , its hard but requires more skill!
i always skip the barracks go pathfinder upgrade -> enginners -> support building -> machinegun crew -> pathfinder -> paras and then maybe another machinegun... give you good control
Very good build. Tried skip riflemen build. So insane good when playing multiplayer. Also had hard time to get Shermans so I fixed 2 Half tracks, one track as aa-gun and the other as medic! insane good build + good when get attacked with grenades. Also engineers are need to keep tracks alive. Late game sent in hell cat. No sherman.
Having a hard time using this against early game rush/blob of the DAK etc
how are u so calm while playing this, my wife says that i sometimes forget to blink and breath for a bit when i play this game.
Hello, great guide, great video. I'm just wondering why you go with the infantry support building rather than getting the upgrades for armor (mechanized support building). Is it only for the cpt ? Thx
Mainly to air drop paratroopers and the anti tank gun. The latter being the most important since I skip that building.
@@FitzBro Fitz he asked about support buildings. Not battlegroups.
@@PatwasPolska good catch. I think getting Captain Retinue gives great retreat options to a forward med truck, and you can also boost your infantry stats into the later stages of the game. I've used each of them, and really all are viable.
Thank you for the guide, it's so hard to play without such information
Good lord. I do things so wrong. Thanks for the pointers, Fitz!
What I have noticed is the Italian mixed battle group is a good counter against this strategy I’ve seen people use those pathfinder aggressively
Guastatori is the counter for every single allies strategy.
Very helpful thanks! Will you be covering the other factions?
Yes, British Forces are up next!
this is very good content and actually help me as somebody who moved from OP DAK to USF and feels lost :D thanks!
What about the infirmary? When do you get that?
any chance you could do a build guide of 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 etc for US?
Interesting variation of Inu-kis (Iron cast) build order, going to try this.
IIRC Pathfinders have the second best cap time too. You could probably get an advantage in taking territory at the beginning with their cap speed.
Do they have a faster cap time than other units? I haven't tested that yet.
@@FitzBro I pulled it from another video, but looks like scouts/pathfinders cap at 13.5s while most other units take 16-20s. th-cam.com/video/ZAMf0YcYT8o/w-d-xo.html
@@FitzBro certain units cap faster. For USF it's scouts / pathfinders
Thanks for the video.
Hey, FitzBro I'm are to COH3 - my Q is how do I queue up units to be built. I'm sure you have a vid on it. Plus I just Subscribe to your Channel
You can always just drop the paratroopers in your own base. The plane gets shot down but not until after they drop
But how do you get the 76mm variant?
Really enjoying coh3 🙃
How are you not going to die before the sherman? You have almost no units.
The broad parts make sense, but why is the machine gun so important? I'd think most people would start going light vehicles if they see you're probably rushing tanks.
Usually there's Berg spam to deal with or other infantry that a machine gun can help pin down, while your rifle squads w/grenades can deal with light vehicles. You can also swap this out for bazooka if needed or a sniper.
@@FitzBro Thanks!
@@FitzBro Rookie question from someone trying to learn the game, but what is a Berg spam?
@@Hardrada_NoR Italian Bersaglieri is an infantry unit that can be called in from an Afrika Korps battlegroup.
How u got the cammo? Looks great.
It is a skin that I think was unlocked with a special edition of the game. Maybe you can unlock it in the game? You can equip it in loadout in the main menu.
Preorder bonus or DLC Skin Pack. I forgot which one.
Wait how did you move the unit icons to the top right, what settings is it?
Magical powers! It is in the settings menu, but I don't remember the exact one right now. I'm sure you can find it!
it is under settings and gameplay
Pretty good build for 1v1
Good guide and game.
What elo gameplay is this?
To be honest, the guide is nice and all, but you should really fit in a medicine tent...half the time your troops went off fighting with half health but full model-strength. You get easily wiped on that units. Just as a friendly reminder :) otherwise, keep up the good work !
I like to save on the fuel to get my tanks out sooner, but it definitely a risky move. I do add the medical tent in a lot of cases. Every game is different of course.
thanks
Germans are so over powered omg :D
how do you move your camera? keybinds?
I use the arrow keys. Not ideal.
Good guide and game. I personally would have done second AT gun over machine gun. Double at really catches vehicles out :)
When the Berg spam comes knocking, you will want the machine gun. Situational of course!
I have a hard time making riflemen valid, they need upgrades but their upgrades are so expensive that I feel it's not worth the cost. I think it's better to stick with pathfinders and airborne and go for vehicles.
I only make 2 and get the grenade package. It really helps deal with those vehicle openings, but if they are spamming infantry, I'll save res and not get it.
@@FitzBro atleast they are not regular grenadiers xD
Hello, ty for your work, cant wait for Wehrmacht!
Whoa
Q = attack move.
I really think airborne are underpowered. I don't see why you would use this over the SSF units in the special operations trees. Its a one all be all anti-tank, anti-infantry for only like 100 more manpower. You don't need fuel or munitions for them as they can switch to bazookas on the fly. I can see them getting nerfed or the other trees and factions being buffed once people learn just how broken a good couple squads of SSF with maybe 1 light tank for support on MG teams.
To me it seems these build order guides seem to focus on battlegroups that can get stuff out immediately and are perhaps stronger in early game capping to get resource lead and perhaps even end game quickly.
Ssf commandos are probably bit slower to get.
Nice guide, please play with hotkeys bro :) , you will feel better, please.
Hard mode activated - but seriously, I'm still figuring out the best way to utilize unit control groups in this game since I don't want to bunch them up and might move them throughout the map.
@@FitzBro I have used your strat since I commented, it's great, the map control from the scouts allowed me to snowball my opponents. Thanks bro :p
Can I play with you? Coh veteran here 🙂
Dang its looks exciting ! BUT while i live in Ukraine i already when sleep see dreams with air rocket raids and with military troops. Imagine what could i see in a night dreams if I start play this game )
I Never win play this game, so frustrating... Play US only atm.
CHAD GUIDE!
It seems pathfinders get absolutely destroyed by german infantry :\
Unfortunately USF feels very weak compared to the other factions
yeah, I never Win with USF. SADGE
anti is not pronounced an-thai