Who is it that's thinking? (Non Duality meeting)
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This was a particularly funny one :)
One of the very last tricks of the ego is making you think you don’t have one. Very ancient warning in the Buddhist Tradition. “No concepts” becomes a concept and “emptiness” becomes a teaching to the ego.
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I did not get what you are saying?
You remain one of the clearest Kenneth ... felt it the first I heard you speak with Ian McNay many years ago. Blessings and thank you
No one is thinking - the sky is blue, the trees are green! 🙇
Leaning on The Void. Huang Po 🎉❤
Love it.
Love u Kenneth!
Brilliant💙Thankyou 🙏🏻
You can't lose something that doesn't exist.
Thoughts get in the way of the experience of just being. 🙂 Thanks for the talks though! 💖
There is NO change after realising, that there is no person. Thought are coming and going like before.There is a saying: "Before enlightenment; chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment; chop wood, carry water.”
Nothing changes but everything changes in a way that is totally indescribable. On the surface it’s the same and yet it feels radically different.
“It’s a complete and utter circus!” Amen😂
Thank you!
Love it … thank you …
Nice
Loved this♥️
Brilliant!
Kenneth Madden 🙏🙏
No one is thinking! Thinking is just incessantly random, uncontrollable or unstoppable thoughts!
Thoughts don't have an independent Nature of its own, thus no "wisdom" in them to perceive anything.
Only "That which perceives" has ( infinite) wisdom & is all pervading - perceiving timelessly. 😊🙏🙇
Hopefully I will experientially get your message one day my brother:)! Thank u for your videos!
Un-experience, un-knowing, death.
Keep watching this.. a few times a day.. it eventually colors out
And then there is nothing to get and no one to get it. It already is. 🪷
Great Humor 😁😜👍
There is a true resonance happening during these shows.. ha shows.. showing what.. lol. It is here and felt though even when watched after
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You remind me of jim newman
If "people" were really happy the world wouldn't "look" like it does.
Hilarious ❤
Me Is a Prank, Is so hilarious!!
Kenneth Is so hilarious Thank you so much
Something is nothing and nothing is something🤣🤣🤣Yeah! could you please play something with your guitar on your next video Kenneth?🤩
Discovered your talks a few weeks ago. Will you be doing a meeting around the North West England area this year?
Not likely Gavin to be honest. If I had someone to help out one on there I’d consider it though
No Worries mate. Keep the videos coming. I might be able to come the London One
Just a thought that arised - There appears to be a surprise that the word Awareness is not mentioned. I seem to have an understanding of ND from the point of there is only Awareness, as an Isness. Awareness is not anything separate from anything. Because this shift that happens when you are saying the experience that there is nothing, there is No Person, nothing is happening - That had to happen in Awareness, or you (not you) could not even be talking about it. Anyway not that it matters, Awareness is just another word LOL
Thank you Kenneth, I appreciate the message. I have a question. What, if any, value is there for a "person" to listen to your talks?
No value whatsoever
@@kennethmadden Thanks, I would have bet some good money that would have been the answer. Lol
I get that there is no I, only an apparent unfolding of phenomena. But there was an I in the sharing about the bee going from flower to flower, wasn't there? A bee is a construct of the I and, even when taken apart, yellow and black and wings are created by the I. So, in the absence of an I, what happens to the bee? Does it still exist? 😊
Hopeful energy in some future corners...!!
Soup moving...
But..
Isn't river moving??
appears you were into mindfullness at one time(on the shelve)
Nonexistent me…A.I. ….Artificial I
So all those workshops on manifesting we can’t take any credit for 😂….that’s the one that makes me laugh are the “look what I manifested” when there isn’t anyone separate to manifest anything . It’s an incredible “spell” one can fall into this dream that is not really real .
Well within this story there is a character who wishes to realise shes not a character. This character watched her son drown and wasnt able to save him. In that story, that character, though unreal, needs to see shes not real. This character has given up on the desire to realize and on the story too. Have “you” ever wanted something so much that youre willing to not exist anymore?
Sorry for your loss Deborah- that’s unimaginable. I won’t claim I can help you , I can’t help anyone, but I am very happy to speak to you if you wish, there is no charge. Email me at kennethmadden@gmail.com if you wish to talk re what is being communicated.
Sorry for your loss❤️🩹🙏
The sense of being is simply artificial
The sense of being..
Is it not important for survival of body?
Nope. The heart would still beat. The lungs would still breathe regardless of what "you" thought was behind it.
what is the history or non history of this so called persons realization ?
Like it or not the body is still subject to the laws of the 3 dimensional world , so attaining moksha ( which has no starting point) initially involves a birth , a meeting of a teacher or if one is incredibly lucky , a spontaneous awakening .
Really? Who told you all of that?
If I do not exist.... what actually exist? You said it's energy. But energy as we know is an effect... a movement... What causes the movement? How and why?
In fact real knowing of what Is.... is impossible. Knowing has inherent limitations when it comes to know the radical existence.......
You're talking about objective reality. He's talking about subjective experience. In his subjective reality there is no feeling of "me". For example no feeling of me moving a hand. It feels like the hand is moving by itself. No me thinking thoughts, only thoughts. No feeling of me speaking, only the sound of voice that is appearing out of nowhere and then disappearing.
I think you have hit it on the head. "Knowing" is never going to be possible because in order to "know" with the mind you need to use language, and you need to name everything, and you need to break everything into separate ideas in order to push a concept through the sausage maker. And once you divide everything up in order to accommodate this you've lost touch with its truth.
I don't know of any spiritual Buddhist teacher that says you can quiet the mind and there will be no thinking. This is the mainstream misconception of mediation and mindfulness and makes me question how much experience Ken has in spiritual practice. I've noticed this limited awareness of spiritual practice among other Non-duality speakers. Non-duality and spiritual practice are not in opposition - they are entirely congruent.
We don't invent the drama, Ego/conditioned mind does. We are this, the universal One, Life the Universe.
Fortunately, he does not have a lot of spiritual practice. "Spiritual practice" has been the biggest barrier to the noticing of what appears to be so that "people" have come up with. This has absolutely nothing to do with "spirituality" at all. If you're looking for spirituality you're definitely on the wrong TH-cam channel.
It's totally not understandable because there are no concepts that work, no measurement nor an agent to whom concepts would have meaning
Restaurant conversation:
The food here is awful....
And the proportions are small.
That's life.
Who is it thats thinking? Take 1 billion people and ask them to pick a card and to think of the object on the card. All of the cards will have a red balloon except one card. That card reads: green balloon. Ask everyone to think of the object on the card. Then ask did anyone think of a green balloon. The one person that stands up and says i was thinking of a green balloon. Thats the separate self. No other body mind would stand up. What do we call this? There is absolutely individuals having different thoughts.