I love how his wingman disappears, then re appears after the barons dead, and they all non chalantly join the rest of squadron lol where the fuck were you guys while I was getting shot at, some fucking wingman you are hahaha
If you ever wonder why this movie was so bad, just remember that the "historical advisor" they hired for this movie was a convicted fraud and military imposter who knew less about WWI dogfighting (or air combat in general) than the average fifth-grader.
Gawd what a Hollywood scene. Guy takes a machine gun bullet through the shoulder to absolutely no effect and then is able to compensate for 80 mph speed and wind and shoot the German in the eye with his .38 revolver.
Is it though? Remember that irl, air combat started with two planes shooting pistols at one another. And while it is a difficult shot to make, it's not impossible, especially for someone who was likely raised around firearms their whole life. The same would prove true during WW2, the most effective gunners were those who grew up around guns from an early age, as they could easily adjust to how to properly lead targets.
He wasn't far enough away for wind-speed to be much of a factor, and it was his other shoulder that got hit, so he could shoot just fine being right handed. But there's tons of other unrealistic Hollywood things going on.
He was shot in the shoulder, but no blood was spilled. Also he was able to operate the maneuver and shoot accurately with a handgun, he must be a Terminator.
indeed, Like, it's normal to be that accurate with a pistol, in a shaky old biplane, wounded, and not even lead to take in account of your (and the targets) movement.... And apparently, the ingrained racism wasn't even invented yet!
@@iffracem The first dogfight is believed to have taken place on 28 August 1914, when Norman Spratt, flying an unarmed Sopwith Tabloid,forced down a German Albatros C.I two-seater. Pilots then began firing hand-held guns at enemy planes, such as pistols and carbines. In August 1914, Staff-Captain Pyotr Nesterov, from Russia, became the first pilot to ram his plane into an enemy spotter aircraft. In October 1914, an airplane was shot down by a hand gun from another plane for the first time over Rheims, France. Once machine guns were mounted to the plane, either on a flexible mounting or higher on the wings of early biplanes, the era of air combat began.
@@harazhangf5782 Yeah the point of gaining altitude is so that his wingman could dive on the target. The wingman got altitude then failed to dive on the target. I would have been friggin PISSED at that wingman.
I love how it’s actually the German pilot’s sadism that does him in! He could’ve finished this guy easily, but he has to rub it in, giving his enemy enough time to pull out of the line of fire!
You call that sadism and, A pilot would call it respect. In world war 1, most people would not survive a tumble to the earth, he was going to mercy kill him.
@@MasterTaters Most merciful pilots don’t smile like this guy while taking the shot! And I’m fairly certain his strafing run on an enemy pilot on the ground wasn’t done mercifully to spare him the walk back to base!
@@IsaiahRichards692 He might be a dick yeah, but still id rather get killed than die in a fire with everything broken lol. Theres a scene at the start of the movie where they say the pistol he used is for suicide. The guy is cocky for sure. Shooting a pilot on the ground isn't okay, but this scene by itself doesn't indicate a great prejudice against rawlings. If it was another guy doing it I would interpret this as him checking on the crippled plane and seeing if the guy was still alive, maybe not by him but a salute would be cast before he got finished off. Falcon is a douche but that doesn't mean what happened here is inherently bad. Falcon didn't bargain that rawlings had fight left in him, or that his plane was capable of doing the fighting. He was wrong on both counts.
@@MasterTaters The Falcon isn’t a douche, he’s a sadist! That isn’t inherently bad; there are sadists that keep their fetishes under control, but this guy is using a combat environment to excuse his wanton slaughter of helpless enemies. There were times when he outright shot down enemy planes, but when he had his way, he wounded the enemy pilots and let them fall to the ground. The only reason he was killing Rawlins was because he’d already made sure Rawlins knew who killed his mentor, and that he was next.
Always liked this movie. Really showed what kind of courage these guys faced in climbing in: A "personal"pistol in place of a parachute, and they still chose to fly! No wonder they had trouble flying: Their B@!!5 must have been heavy!
Me and a bunch of friends went to it in the theater. We were laughing at it and someone complained. The ticket came and got us, we were a group of 40+ year old guys getting kicked out. In the lobby he said if we came back about an hour after the theater closed that he and his friends were going to watch it and talk shit the whole time if we wanted to join them. We did. We watched it with a bunch of other guys that were into flight sims and such. We had the best time. Best part.. Was when we were tossing popcorn at the guy in front of us when he all of a sudden jumped up in his seat and kinda did a half ass backwards roll into the seat next to us, then he threw popcorn...... One of his friends said "... Oh, you fucker, you've seen this before..." From that time on that bullshit move, flipping around, getting next to the guy, then shooting him... Was known as the bullshit popcorn maneuver.
I've seen actual photos of downed WW1 planes. They usually crashed somewhat intact, and broken up in places. Like a kite crashing. That explosion was over kill.
even a solid metal plane wouldnt explode. You know, metal is not explosive. maybe it was the fueltank? Andy maybe it is a very unrealistic movie. The audition is wanting everything that crashes to explode.
@@snakeplissken2148 Yes they had fuel, but it wasn't to the point where it would explode into a huge fireball. By the time they were shot down a large portion of the fuel wouldv'e been consumed. And so, it would most likely burst into flames instead of exploding like that.
,Well, it is a movie, but yeah, you'd really have to lead the other guy pretty well, very tough shot. figured he'd just crash into him, take him down with him. but i guess, well, it's a movie.
The gun and the bullet is flying at the same velocity than the planes it's shouldn't be hard for a cowbow to aim and shoot his revolver on air, plus he had training.
Actually this is totally possible in ww1 planes and actually happened. Before the planes had mounted guns at the beginning of the war they literally threw grenades at eachother and used rifles and pistols. The first dogfight kill was from both pilots running out of side arm ammo, so they just rammed eachother. How primitive lol
@@tumsfestival8027 honestly if i had to pick a dog fight to be in I would deffinetly pick the granade tossing in planes. With that said, itbactually sounds fun even tho deadly.
What nonsense. The plane was shot through by a machine gun. The guy shot through just above the heart. The other bullets probably all got stuck in the backrest. Then the guy still shoots the enemy in the head with a drum revolver at 100 mph without a lead, several times. It can't get any stupider
This movie is gold by comparison to the movies we get out of Hollywood today. As dumb, predictable and stupid as it is, as well as how inaccurate and unrealistic it can get, it has a good story, satisfying payoffs and good, old-fashioned fun. I will say, when I first saw this years ago, I was not expecting the guy to whip out his Webley to shoot the Black Baron- that definitely caught me off guard. Sure, it is incredibly BS he landed the shot and completely impossible, but the payoff was great. Initially the pistol was used as a last resort to take your own life before burning to death in a plane crash. But here, he's using the pistol as a last resort to save his life, and the movie makes it work due to his background as a rancher and gunman.
I love how everyone is dissecting this film & talking about what is wrong with it. That’s what made it such a massive flop, they took an incredible true story & turned it into absolute shite!
I just watch for the airplanes. There were never whole squadrons of Fokker Dr1s, especially red ones. They were very scarce and most pilots could not get the best out of them so they didn't waste triplanes on just any pilot.
film is unrealistic garabage. I recommend the german film "the red baron" 2008- about Manfred von Richthofen. The Flight scenes are a lot more realistic and german pilots potraied as they indeed were: honorable humans.
It's almost as bad as this one. Lanoe Hawker flying SE5 a year before it entered service (IRL he flew an Airco DH-2 pusher) sporting a grim reaper on his plane (which was actually sported by members of the French Escadrile 94 including the ace pilot Petar "Pierre" Marinovich. Also, Richthofen did shoot down Hawker and was never a quasi-pacifist he turned into towards the end of the film.
@@VersusARCH Film had to Show Pazifist side because germans are totally against war nowadays and didn't wanted to Show a hero. Having national pride in germany is like beeing a nazi. Thats why they had to Show a broken hero that is against war. Problem with foreign Films like above: they Show germans often like evil Monsters without heart. And about the planes: The Film above shows the fake Richthofen always with Fokker Dr.1 But in reality he mostly flew Albatros. Also the Flight scenes and scenes of the war are far more spectacular and "realistic" in the german film. Remember "das boot". It was successful because it was realistic and didnt show nazis as heartless monsters.
@@ulfybirgit Far too fictional. For example the Film states that Richthofen rammed and killed his famous teacher boelke to take his place. Another tasteless fiction: Evil Göring killing nurses on the ground. When the germans attack their airfield they kill lots of women and musicians. When the allies stroke first there was not a Single woman running around. Richthofen admired boelke. Boelke was his foster father who discovered him- he never would have killed him. It dishonors the greatest Pilot of wwi showing him making such a Flight error in the end. One of boelkes main rules that he teached Richthofen: if you decide to attack, never give up and try to escape. Richthofen never ever would have done that! Never turn your back to the enemy you attacked! In Reality he was unbeaten in the air. He was wounded by ground to air machine guns. He even managed to land his Dr.1. When he was found he said: ich bin kaputt. And died on the ground. In the german film the german pilots also honoring an allied Pilot. The german film shows german soldiers more as humans, as in das Boot. I hope the americans never make films about Hartmann, Marseilles or Rudel. I loved reading Manfred from Richthofens Book several times. A film never can match what he experienced and wrote
@@bottcherimmobilien4864 Yeah you should probably call yourselves Prussians instead.... Oh wait no... Hmmm. Teutonics. yeah! No... Now I know why the EU exists.
Wouldn't he have had to have aimed ahead of the other pilot to compensate for moving forward? Would the bullet have been impacted by the wind? Sounds like a job for mythbusters. Are they still around?
I was beginning to think I was the only one who noticed him. What do you think the chances were for a black man getting pilot training in WW I? I shouldn't have to say thus, but this isn't a racist comment. It's just the way things were, unfortunately, at that time.
I recently watched the Blue Max with George Peppard. The live flying was so much better than the CGI in this flying mess. Their are some things CGI does really well, but this was not one of them.
I debated whether to go and see this when it was on release. Having seen clips on youtube, and read the comments I'm rather glad I didn't do so. The aircraft are lovely. Pity about the script, some of whose gags go right back to "Hell's Angels"(ramming the Zeppelin for example.)
That film drawed an unrealistic bad picture of german pilots and has nothing to do with Reality. Showing this in school for young kids is a bad idea. I would recommend you the german film "the red baron" from 2008. Thats a lot more realistic. Also the Flightscenes. Enjoy!
I think it was payback for the act of disrespect Black Falcon did earlier in the movie. Just shooting the gun at the pilot was not necessarily the gentlemens thing to do, but this asshole deserved every bit of that.
@@RollingxBigshot I haven't seen the movie in a while, but I think it was when the team member landed because of plane problems and while he was assessing the damage, BF shot him from the plane
@@crazyman7671 That's correct. The Black Falcon killed the one dude that was on the ground, the formally racist guy (set his plane on fire if memory serves), and finally the mentor for all of the characters. So Rowlings decided to sucker him up into a fight, and almost had the guy if not for his two buddies who crashed the party... then Rowlings remaining wingmen ran them off and we get this scene.
WW1 pilots did actually shoot pistols or rifles at each other but that was before they had mounted machine guns so a few years before this set time in the movie true tactics wrong time
During ww2 there were a few german pilots would fire upon b17 crew bailing out also the japanese would fire upon allied pilots and bomber crews bailing out
So (incase you haven’t seen the movie) people join the war against the nazi and the black jacket guy was a nazi that the protagonists hate because he constantly did dishonorable things (like shooting one of their men who already crashed landed on the ground and was defenseless) and so they hate the “black falcon” the protagonist(Rawlings) was a cow boy and already had experience with guns and the black falcon killing his friends so this was an excellent scene
I got the movie trailer before the movie came out got it from the owner of the plane it was at Fantasy of Flight. Watched them put enough hours on the plane before they shipped it to England.
I tried watching this movie just a few days ago and couldn't stand it but thought I'd check out the scene. I'm so glad I didn't keep watching. It's a shame as there was so much worthy, and brave fighting they could of portrayed on both sides of that horrible war. You didn't need to make it up. A young film maker could of come up with a better script/movie before they left high school.
Пулевое ранение на вылет из пулемета калибра 7,7. Болевой шок. Возможны перелом костей ключицы и внутреннее кровотечение! Только в фантастическом фильме летчик с такими ранениями будет выполнять фигуры высшего пилотажа, да ещё стрелять из револьвера. Потеря сознания от болевого шока гарантирована! Фантастика!
Необязательно! Многие советские пилоты сажали яки и лавки после попадания 7.92 немецких мессеров! обычное дело! Плечо, бедро и даже лёгкое! Тем более там фанерные самолёты и из ткани в отличии от яков и лаггов, там мало мальская но защита была , а тут фанера и ткань одна, пуля так что навылет,может кость и не задеть, не так страшно!
@@АугустоПиночет-м7ж проблема в том что бронеплиты там за креслом нет)))) и это первуха а не вторуха т.е бред! давно бы уже пикировал этот "АС" а не стрелял бы в немца) да и не садисты они были какими их выказали тут летчики тогда не особо старались убить, сколько случаев даже во вторую мировую что поврежденный самолет сопровождали и даже потом друзьями становились а тут типичный голливудский "крепкий орешек" да вот только жанр не подходит ...... это не боевик а военный фильм короче это дерьмище. красный барон 2008 года куда лучше показал ту эпоху с обеих сторон
@@NanatsukiBenio Ну что ты несешь бред? Ты там воевал чтоль? ты там был? Война вообще исключает джентельменство,это только для таких дурачков вроде вас чтоб шли воевать дурачье! Это художественный фильм, советские фильмы там ляпов ещё более,а российские так вообще пробы ставить негде,хроники Нарнии и то правдивее бля
@@АугустоПиночет-м7ж я не бред несу я историк а не сказочник и таких примеров гуманности было очень много про В17F и Мессер это исторический факт (немец увидел что бомбер исхлестан и не отвечает огнем подлетел к нему и понял что там пол экипажа ранено. довел крепость до границы и отвалил ) после войны пилоты В 17 и того Мессера 109G6 стали друзьями и ходили на рыбалку пока не умерли один за другим это если что очень известный случай и не знать его стыдно на войне воюют все те же люди. человеку свойственно ДУМАТЬ! и ЧУВСТВОВАТЬ! Я служил и абсолютно не жалею того что служил Дурачком я вас не обзывал а вот вы начали)))) кто из нас дурачек я еще посмотрю и да если говорить о первой мировой то там еще больше случаев гуманности и героизма чем в последующих конфликтах (несмотря на весь ужас первой мировой ) а кинишко Flyboys полное говно ..... я в ВВС служил и в принципе понимаю что все что тут показали БРЕД! причем полнейший у Драйдекера 2 пулемета калибра 7.92 и как после такого фарша за гаргротом у Ньюпора 17 пилот получил не 100 а 1 дырочку? да еще и не смертельную ))))) ну конечно AMERICAN HERO блять а если бы это был Француз то его бы убили по сценарию))) ну смешно же....... немец недочеловек ублюдок как всегда по клише ЗАЕБАЛО это ! у Ni17 там нет НИХУЯ! не брони ничего так что ПИЗДА была бы летуну в любом случае а уж эти ковбойские перестрелки ) в 1914~16 да еще было но не на такой дистанции и не так точно ибо скорость и ветер мне еще одну лекцию писать о том что это не херня и не бред? советское кино согласен ляпов много но сейчас то ))))) это не о ляпах это тупая дрочка на америку я абсолютно не против сша но против искажения фактов а вы уважаемый где служили? если что я вам об этом сказал ............ кстати ваш канал глянул П.С на М4А1 с подвешенным М203 ОООЧЕНЬ Редко когда вешают снайперскую оптику либо DMR либо Grenadier Rifle это простите из опыта)))) много друзей в армии США но это к матчасти фильма дела не имеет так просто посмотрел с кем беседую ) тоже в страйкбол играл но не покемонил ~ если что ACOG или ЕОTech ставьте на свой "Ассолт Карбин" или М16А3/4 с Оптикой а лучше Мк12-SPR берите
Rubbish.. Hollywood fantasy... quietly let the guy sit on your tail until he completely shot you up. Then, and only then, pull the barrel roll in your shot up plane to finish up beside him as he just sits there and allows you to shoot him in the head with pin point accuracy with a revolver.. meanwhile all your buddies have disappeared, to then miraculously reappear at the end. Utter...crap.
So fun fact back when I was a senior in high school most of the school was actually in the auditorium watching this movie. When this part came on and he shot the German pilot the entire auditorium all jumped out of their seats cheering that he killed him.
This comment section contains People complaining about a movie not being realistic. First off they are wrong as like this scene dogfighting was first done with small arms and unarmed planes, second this is a god damn movie, not real life. There are going to be a few seemingly unrealistic things taking place in order to wow the audience. Third. This movie was inspired by a true story, not based off of it, anyone who passed English class knows there is a difference between those two words.
Remember, switching to your pistol is always faster than dogfighting.
XD
I see what you did there
Oh man, that’s great! 🤣
It has been done. Fighter plane was brought down by pistol. It’s a true story an infact has witness too
Clearly you have little experience of pistol shooting.
I love how his wingman disappears, then re appears after the barons dead, and they all non chalantly join the rest of squadron lol where the fuck were you guys while I was getting shot at, some fucking wingman you are hahaha
The wingman just hang around hiding in the clouds waiting for him to take matter into his own hand.
Just what I’m thinking
Just what I thought!
Indeed, worst wingman ever
@@lucascaro6941 yep!!!! Who need an wingman when u have to fight by yourself.
If you ever wonder why this movie was so bad, just remember that the "historical advisor" they hired for this movie was a convicted fraud and military imposter who knew less about WWI dogfighting (or air combat in general) than the average fifth-grader.
Most films like this are made to depict Germany in a bad light so I can see how they could get other stuff wrong
Steven Segal should have been in this one.
Really? Who was the advisor?
@@enterBJ40 Jack Livesey
Bro yo ass tweakin this is a good movie. And also no one ever compliments how good the soundtrack is
The only thing missing from this fantasy was a light saber.
That’s because ancient weapons and hokie religions are no match for a good blaster.
Change sounds into X wing Vs tie fighter and you have perfect star wars space duel
Nah, they’d get their Schwartz twisted...
The movie was based on a true story
Well apparently the red Baron's first kills were with a shotgun in the back seat of a plane
Gawd what a Hollywood scene. Guy takes a machine gun bullet through the shoulder to absolutely no effect and then is able to compensate for 80 mph speed and wind and shoot the German in the eye with his .38 revolver.
Is it though? Remember that irl, air combat started with two planes shooting pistols at one another. And while it is a difficult shot to make, it's not impossible, especially for someone who was likely raised around firearms their whole life. The same would prove true during WW2, the most effective gunners were those who grew up around guns from an early age, as they could easily adjust to how to properly lead targets.
It's not that different from two cars going 80 mph shooting at each other, the bullet is going the same speed sideways as both planes.
@@randymagnum6680 it’s like shooting across a 80 mph wind tunnel. Bullet will NOT hit point of aim due to wind drift.
He wasn't far enough away for wind-speed to be much of a factor, and it was his other shoulder that got hit, so he could shoot just fine being right handed. But there's tons of other unrealistic Hollywood things going on.
@@CorePathwayi mean this literally happened not the way they show it here but theres documented cases of pilots shooting each other with small arms
Before becoming a pilot, he was a gun slinger in the wild west........
😂 Or just knew how to use a pistol better than his planes armaments.
Be funny if the German yelled "PAN SHOT!" And then proceeded to shoot him down.
Leave Billy the Kid alone bro. That ain't cool 🙄
The Mongols could shoot arrows - horseback or plane doesn't matter.
He was shot in the shoulder, but no blood was spilled. Also he was able to operate the maneuver and shoot accurately with a handgun, he must be a Terminator.
Adrenaline can disappear pain
And that shoulder wound looks realistic. The exit wound is bigger than the entry wound
And his plane was shot all over like honeycomb, and all he takes is only 1 hit?
Those guys were tougher, than any of us "modern," folks
What's crazy is how good he got in dog fight in a short amount of time took on 3 German red planes and the leader all on his own.
I love that ending. I care not how fantastical it might be, I love it! "Je vois tout!" ("I miss nothing!") A salute to all the flyboys.
"Je vois tout" means "I see everything", not "I miss nothing", "I miss nothing" is "Je ne manque rien" and yeah good ending, good manoeuvre
Only in Hollywood!
*Anybody who watches this as fact must still believe in Santa and The Tooth Fairy !*
indeed, Like, it's normal to be that accurate with a pistol, in a shaky old biplane, wounded, and not even lead to take in account of your (and the targets) movement.... And apparently, the ingrained racism wasn't even invented yet!
Santa's real dammit!
santa deniers be like
@@iffracem The first dogfight is believed to have taken place on 28 August 1914, when Norman Spratt, flying an unarmed Sopwith Tabloid,forced down a German Albatros C.I two-seater. Pilots then began firing hand-held guns at enemy planes, such as pistols and carbines. In August 1914, Staff-Captain Pyotr Nesterov, from Russia, became the first pilot to ram his plane into an enemy spotter aircraft. In October 1914, an airplane was shot down by a hand gun from another plane for the first time over Rheims, France. Once machine guns were mounted to the plane, either on a flexible mounting or higher on the wings of early biplanes, the era of air combat began.
@@iffracem It's a movie. Ingrained racism? Explain that. I'm curious?
If only snoopy had used his pistol, he wouldn't have been forced to land behind enemy lines 😆
That's why they called it a dog fight. It was snoopy all along that started it.
At which point does he shoot his wingman for disappearing when the enemy shows up?
You mean when he tells him to go up at 0:08 ???
@@harazhangf5782 And then he's no where to be seen. Great fuckin' wingman.
@@harazhangf5782 Yeah the point of gaining altitude is so that his wingman could dive on the target. The wingman got altitude then failed to dive on the target. I would have been friggin PISSED at that wingman.
I love how it’s actually the German pilot’s sadism that does him in! He could’ve finished this guy easily, but he has to rub it in, giving his enemy enough time to pull out of the line of fire!
You call that sadism and, A pilot would call it respect.
In world war 1, most people would not survive a tumble to the earth, he was going to mercy kill him.
@@MasterTaters Most merciful pilots don’t smile like this guy while taking the shot! And I’m fairly certain his strafing run on an enemy pilot on the ground wasn’t done mercifully to spare him the walk back to base!
@@IsaiahRichards692 He might be a dick yeah, but still id rather get killed than die in a fire with everything broken lol. Theres a scene at the start of the movie where they say the pistol he used is for suicide. The guy is cocky for sure. Shooting a pilot on the ground isn't okay, but this scene by itself doesn't indicate a great prejudice against rawlings. If it was another guy doing it I would interpret this as him checking on the crippled plane and seeing if the guy was still alive, maybe not by him but a salute would be cast before he got finished off. Falcon is a douche but that doesn't mean what happened here is inherently bad. Falcon didn't bargain that rawlings had fight left in him, or that his plane was capable of doing the fighting. He was wrong on both counts.
@@MasterTaters The Falcon isn’t a douche, he’s a sadist! That isn’t inherently bad; there are sadists that keep their fetishes under control, but this guy is using a combat environment to excuse his wanton slaughter of helpless enemies. There were times when he outright shot down enemy planes, but when he had his way, he wounded the enemy pilots and let them fall to the ground. The only reason he was killing Rawlins was because he’d already made sure Rawlins knew who killed his mentor, and that he was next.
@@IsaiahRichards692 Okay. Argue the one point thats left I guess. I'm not arguing about what falcon is, just about the validity of the act.
Wow. thanks for all the help guys. Couldn't have done it without you
You brought an aeroplane to a gunfight
Better than a knife even though the enemy turned James Franco's plane into Swiss cheese
@@clearcreek69 Knife works too else WW2 Jap pilots would not be carrying samurai swords into combat.
Was this written by David Benioff and D. B. Weiss? "His wingman kind of forgot his role as wingman."
I just watched this movie an hour ago so glad I stumbled upon it
“awful” doesn’t begin to cover what this waste of film deserves
An accurate account of the lives and deaths of the pilots in the Great War would have been much more entertaining!
@@badkarma52, hear hear
Absolutely atrocious part revisionist part fantasy nonsense
Glad to see your comments. I have to agree. It's entertainment but useless otherwise
Always liked this movie. Really showed what kind of courage these guys faced in climbing in: A "personal"pistol in place of a parachute, and they still chose to fly! No wonder they had trouble flying: Their B@!!5 must have been heavy!
The Jap pilots in WW2 carried katanas for the same reason 🙂
I remember being super excited about this movie.
Me and a bunch of friends went to it in the theater. We were laughing at it and someone complained.
The ticket came and got us, we were a group of 40+ year old guys getting kicked out.
In the lobby he said if we came back about an hour after the theater closed that he and his friends were going to watch it and talk shit the whole time if we wanted to join them.
We did. We watched it with a bunch of other guys that were into flight sims and such. We had the best time.
Best part.. Was when we were tossing popcorn at the guy in front of us when he all of a sudden jumped up in his seat and kinda did a half ass backwards roll into the seat next to us, then he threw popcorn...... One of his friends said "... Oh, you fucker, you've seen this before..."
From that time on that bullshit move, flipping around, getting next to the guy, then shooting him... Was known as the bullshit popcorn maneuver.
Then you watched it and wondered why.
And then you watched it.
The black falcon though!!! Such a sexy plane.
where the hell was his wing man? what in the hell
Biplanes were wood and canvas, so they didn't explode like that.
I've seen actual photos of downed WW1 planes. They usually crashed somewhat intact, and broken up in places. Like a kite crashing. That explosion was over kill.
even a solid metal plane wouldnt explode. You know, metal is not explosive. maybe it was the fueltank? Andy maybe it is a very unrealistic movie. The audition is wanting everything that crashes to explode.
@@snakeplissken2148 Yes they had fuel, but it wasn't to the point where it would explode into a huge fireball. By the time they were shot down a large portion of the fuel wouldv'e been consumed. And so, it would most likely burst into flames instead of exploding like that.
Aluminium would have exploded? I think you will find that their combustion engines used fuel. It is the fuel that explodes 🤣🤣
What if when he pulled out the revolver he just missed?
But he didn't. He is a cowbow. He knows how to aim a revolver to your face and shoot.
@@betorockmetal “cowbow”
@John Jefferson ... hardly point blank and they are both moving a high speeds. I bet you’d actually miss😜
What if the German decided to finish him instantly?
,Well, it is a movie, but yeah, you'd really have to lead the other guy pretty well, very tough shot. figured he'd just crash into him, take him down with him. but i guess, well, it's a movie.
1:35 with how slow those planes flew compared to now, that’s possible, unlikely but not impossible
The gun and the bullet is flying at the same velocity than the planes it's shouldn't be hard for a cowbow to aim and shoot his revolver on air, plus he had training.
Ya those planes topped out at like 90-100mph. Totally impractical but nor impossible
Actually this is totally possible in ww1 planes and actually happened. Before the planes had mounted guns at the beginning of the war they literally threw grenades at eachother and used rifles and pistols. The first dogfight kill was from both pilots running out of side arm ammo, so they just rammed eachother. How primitive lol
@@tumsfestival8027 honestly if i had to pick a dog fight to be in I would deffinetly pick the granade tossing in planes. With that said, itbactually sounds fun even tho deadly.
@@88keysperfeel1ng9 lol right? But it was probably terrifying. I think the death rate of pilots was like crazy high
What nonsense. The plane was shot through by a machine gun. The guy shot through just above the heart. The other bullets probably all got stuck in the backrest. Then the guy still shoots the enemy in the head with a drum revolver at 100 mph without a lead, several times. It can't get any stupider
LOL this pretty well sums it up
drum revolver?
Moral of the story is; don't play with your prey, otherwise you'll get your eye shot out.
The Blue Max blows this crappy movie away.
Aces High is another good one.
Enemy plane: hey buddy ready to die?
Allied plane: call an ambulance call an ambulance! But not for me.
This movie was so absurd it made my brain hurt...
Steering your plane with a shot shoulder, which doesnt have servo control ... oh look, there is a pink flying elephant.
1928 film " Wings " some actual dog fights.. Ariel combat ....Deadly .
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The most laughable part of this movie is when the American pilot lands his plane in No Man's Land without crashing his plane into a shell hole.
Nearly as ridicoulos as "fury"
This was actually possible due to the speed of biplanes.
@@squiddysquidster802 I think he is referring to the over-the-top hammy Hollywood treatment that ruins so many a good war film.
@@Idcanymore510 on point,my friend 👍👍👍
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This movie is gold by comparison to the movies we get out of Hollywood today. As dumb, predictable and stupid as it is, as well as how inaccurate and unrealistic it can get, it has a good story, satisfying payoffs and good, old-fashioned fun.
I will say, when I first saw this years ago, I was not expecting the guy to whip out his Webley to shoot the Black Baron- that definitely caught me off guard. Sure, it is incredibly BS he landed the shot and completely impossible, but the payoff was great. Initially the pistol was used as a last resort to take your own life before burning to death in a plane crash. But here, he's using the pistol as a last resort to save his life, and the movie makes it work due to his background as a rancher and gunman.
I think the acting in this film was spot on. The guy who played the Black Falcon nailed his sadistic and ruthless expressions.
I love how everyone is dissecting this film & talking about what is wrong with it. That’s what made it such a massive flop, they took an incredible true story & turned it into absolute shite!
I wonder how much lead he gave in aiming those pistol bullets to hit thier target travelling at 70 mph?
With the sort time of travel,probably not much!
70 - 80 in high wind at altitude I would say you'd need to have about a I have no fking idea.
The two planes are traveling at the same speed. Therefore you don't need to lead
@@theoderic_l I expected better math from you to be honest.
@@sid2112 true I didn't take into account the wind
I just watch for the airplanes.
There were never whole squadrons of Fokker Dr1s, especially red ones. They were very scarce and most pilots could not get the best out of them so they didn't waste triplanes on just any pilot.
This is why you don't bring a pair of machine guns to a gun fight.
What a believable scene!/sarc
That's nothing, in WW2 an out of ammo Jap pilot took out a katana and sliced off an American pilot.
Hollywood
film is unrealistic garabage. I recommend the german film "the red baron" 2008- about Manfred von Richthofen. The Flight scenes are a lot more realistic and german pilots potraied as they indeed were: honorable humans.
It's almost as bad as this one.
Lanoe Hawker flying SE5 a year before it entered service (IRL he flew an Airco DH-2 pusher) sporting a grim reaper on his plane (which was actually sported by members of the French Escadrile 94 including the ace pilot Petar "Pierre" Marinovich. Also, Richthofen did shoot down Hawker and was never a quasi-pacifist he turned into towards the end of the film.
@@VersusARCH Film had to Show Pazifist side because germans are totally against war nowadays and didn't wanted to Show a hero. Having national pride in germany is like beeing a nazi. Thats why they had to Show a broken hero that is against war.
Problem with foreign Films like above: they Show germans often like evil Monsters without heart.
And about the planes: The Film above shows the fake Richthofen always with Fokker Dr.1
But in reality he mostly flew Albatros.
Also the Flight scenes and scenes of the war are far more spectacular and "realistic" in the german film. Remember "das boot". It was successful because it was realistic and didnt show nazis as heartless monsters.
The best is "Von Richtofen and Brown" (1971) Actors with no such annoyng young american-style way of moving and speaking...
@@ulfybirgit Far too fictional. For example the Film states that Richthofen rammed and killed his famous teacher boelke to take his place.
Another tasteless fiction: Evil Göring killing nurses on the ground. When the germans attack their airfield they kill lots of women and musicians. When the allies stroke first there was not a Single woman running around.
Richthofen admired boelke. Boelke was his foster father who discovered him- he never would have killed him.
It dishonors the greatest Pilot of wwi showing him making such a Flight error in the end. One of boelkes main rules that he teached Richthofen: if you decide to attack, never give up and try to escape. Richthofen never ever would have done that! Never turn your back to the enemy you attacked!
In Reality he was unbeaten in the air. He was wounded by ground to air machine guns. He even managed to land his Dr.1.
When he was found he said: ich bin kaputt. And died on the ground.
In the german film the german pilots also honoring an allied Pilot. The german film shows german soldiers more as humans, as in das Boot.
I hope the americans never make films about Hartmann, Marseilles or Rudel.
I loved reading Manfred from Richthofens Book several times. A film never can match what he experienced and wrote
@@bottcherimmobilien4864 Yeah you should probably call yourselves Prussians instead.... Oh wait no... Hmmm. Teutonics. yeah! No... Now I know why the EU exists.
I remember walking out on this movie about 3/4 turned out to be one of the biggest bombs in box office history. Pure garbage
Shooting at each other with pistols was how aerial combat began.
What name is movie?
Flyboys
My favorite scene throughout the movie
u can say that its cheating
Maybe
Check out the history of the African-American pilot. " The Black Swallow" the French called him at the time.
The American pilots would not fly with with him, and France pulled him from the squadron.....
WOW. This scene was so dumb it hurt.
''Je Vois Tout''
The fact that “air battle scene” is included in this title is hilarious.
One of the best movies I ever watch! About frendship, love, brotherhood and what a real man is! What a movie!
Twilight zone ending the black dude rips his face off to reveal the shot German pilot
I love that ending
yeah, what absolute bull!
Can you please do a gotcha club video of fly boys react to the ending
Don't mess with Texas!
Good grief!
@@Idcanymore510 No he's right. Texas is not a place you want to fk around in.
Wouldn't he have had to have aimed ahead of the other pilot to compensate for moving forward? Would the bullet have been impacted by the wind? Sounds like a job for mythbusters. Are they still around?
Omg a black pilot also, gotta add that diversity
I was beginning to think I was the only one who noticed him. What do you think the chances were for a black man getting pilot training in WW I?
I shouldn't have to say thus, but this isn't a racist comment. It's just the way things were, unfortunately, at that time.
@@jonathanstein1783 I’m a ww1 enthusiast, studying it for decades now and there was not one single black pilot in the entire war. WW1 that is.
I recently watched the Blue Max with George Peppard. The live flying was so much better than the CGI in this flying mess. Their are some things CGI does really well, but this was not one of them.
I debated whether to go and see this when it was on release. Having seen clips on youtube, and read the comments I'm rather glad I didn't do so. The aircraft are lovely. Pity about the script, some of whose gags go right back to "Hell's Angels"(ramming the Zeppelin for example.)
Unrealistic as Hell ....... But gave me a Good Laugh ......
Is there a soundtrack to this fight
The plane has more hits than elvis Presley? Thank u very much!! LOL
they showed us this in social studies in school
Same
that's concerning
That film drawed an unrealistic bad picture of german pilots and has nothing to do with Reality. Showing this in school for young kids is a bad idea. I would recommend you the german film "the red baron" from 2008. Thats a lot more realistic. Also the Flightscenes. Enjoy!
Lol 😆 what?!?!? This movie is horribly inaccurate!
me too i just watched it in my history class
Fly by shooting
I think it was payback for the act of disrespect Black Falcon did earlier in the movie. Just shooting the gun at the pilot was not necessarily the gentlemens thing to do, but this asshole deserved every bit of that.
@@crazyman7671 even after he let him free?
@@RollingxBigshot I haven't seen the movie in a while, but I think it was when the team member landed because of plane problems and while he was assessing the damage, BF shot him from the plane
@@crazyman7671 That's correct. The Black Falcon killed the one dude that was on the ground, the formally racist guy (set his plane on fire if memory serves), and finally the mentor for all of the characters. So Rowlings decided to sucker him up into a fight, and almost had the guy if not for his two buddies who crashed the party... then Rowlings remaining wingmen ran them off and we get this scene.
WW1 pilots did actually shoot pistols or rifles at each other but that was before they had mounted machine guns so a few years before this set time in the movie true tactics wrong time
also dropped bombs by hand
There is no way on hell there would have been a black fighter pilot in WWI
I don't think so...
just imagine, he defeated the Hun in his Nieuport 17 - all without a HUD or "fly by wire"
During ww2 there were a few german pilots would fire upon b17 crew bailing out also the japanese would fire upon allied pilots and bomber crews bailing out
And there were also American pilots that fired on German pilots descending in their parachutes. What is your point?
@@coltonreeves6893 Took the words out of my mouth.
Love this movie!
Yup because plot armor
Убивает.. Негры на аэропланах в 1 мировую...
А где был второй летчик во время боя?
Das ist fantastisch !
LETS GO RAWLINGS
History! Now I'll get an A on my school exam about WWI!
1:35 A certified moment
So (incase you haven’t seen the movie) people join the war against the nazi and the black jacket guy was a nazi that the protagonists hate because he constantly did dishonorable things (like shooting one of their men who already crashed landed on the ground and was defenseless) and so they hate the “black falcon” the protagonist(Rawlings) was a cow boy and already had experience with guns and the black falcon killing his friends so this was an excellent scene
If this is the absolute rubbish filmmakers are making now... l'm glad l stopped going, over 15years ago..!!
What a completely nonsensical mess
This didn't happen in ww1....but it did in ww2 lol
I got the movie trailer before the movie came out got it from the owner of the plane it was at Fantasy of Flight. Watched them put enough hours on the plane before they shipped it to England.
I tried watching this movie just a few days ago and couldn't stand it but thought I'd check out the scene. I'm so glad I didn't keep watching. It's a shame as there was so much worthy, and brave fighting they could of portrayed on both sides of that horrible war. You didn't need to make it up. A young film maker could of come up with a better script/movie before they left high school.
thats what we call a pro gamer move
It's funny how I didn't care what happened to any of the characters in this movie.
If they filmed this movie today they would have a lesbian Asian pilot
No they wouldn't dude. It would be a lesbian Asian pilot who identifies as man. Get it right lol 😆 🤣 😂. Sad 😔 but true they would though.
Deadhorse- A lesbian Asian pilot....with a disability....
Shit, i did not know that Billy the Kid was a pilot during ww1. This seems so true to facts
Пулевое ранение на вылет из пулемета калибра 7,7. Болевой шок. Возможны перелом костей ключицы и внутреннее кровотечение! Только в фантастическом фильме летчик с такими ранениями будет выполнять фигуры высшего пилотажа, да ещё стрелять из револьвера. Потеря сознания от болевого шока гарантирована! Фантастика!
Необязательно! Многие советские пилоты сажали яки и лавки после попадания 7.92 немецких мессеров! обычное дело! Плечо, бедро и даже лёгкое! Тем более там фанерные самолёты и из ткани в отличии от яков и лаггов, там мало мальская но защита была , а тут фанера и ткань одна, пуля так что навылет,может кость и не задеть, не так страшно!
@@АугустоПиночет-м7ж Да хоть бы кровушку нарисовали вытекающую из куртки а то просто дырка и все ...
@@АугустоПиночет-м7ж проблема в том что бронеплиты там за креслом нет))))
и это первуха а не вторуха т.е бред!
давно бы уже пикировал этот "АС" а не стрелял бы в немца) да и не садисты они были какими их выказали тут
летчики тогда не особо старались убить, сколько случаев даже во вторую мировую что поврежденный самолет сопровождали и даже потом друзьями становились
а тут типичный голливудский "крепкий орешек" да вот только жанр не подходит ...... это не боевик а военный фильм
короче это дерьмище. красный барон 2008 года куда лучше показал ту эпоху с обеих сторон
@@NanatsukiBenio Ну что ты несешь бред? Ты там воевал чтоль? ты там был? Война вообще исключает джентельменство,это только для таких дурачков вроде вас чтоб шли воевать дурачье! Это художественный фильм, советские фильмы там ляпов ещё более,а российские так вообще пробы ставить негде,хроники Нарнии и то правдивее бля
@@АугустоПиночет-м7ж я не бред несу
я историк а не сказочник и таких примеров гуманности было очень много
про В17F и Мессер это исторический факт (немец увидел что бомбер исхлестан и не отвечает огнем подлетел к нему и понял что там пол экипажа ранено. довел крепость до границы и отвалил ) после войны пилоты В 17 и того Мессера 109G6 стали друзьями и ходили на рыбалку пока не умерли один за другим
это если что очень известный случай и не знать его стыдно
на войне воюют все те же люди. человеку свойственно ДУМАТЬ! и ЧУВСТВОВАТЬ!
Я служил и абсолютно не жалею того что служил
Дурачком я вас не обзывал а вот вы начали)))) кто из нас дурачек я еще посмотрю и да если говорить о первой мировой то там еще больше случаев гуманности и героизма чем в последующих конфликтах (несмотря на весь ужас первой мировой ) а кинишко Flyboys полное говно ..... я в ВВС служил и в принципе понимаю что все что тут показали БРЕД! причем полнейший
у Драйдекера 2 пулемета калибра 7.92 и как после такого фарша за гаргротом у Ньюпора 17 пилот получил не 100 а 1 дырочку? да еще и не смертельную ))))) ну конечно AMERICAN HERO блять
а если бы это был Француз то его бы убили по сценарию)))
ну смешно же....... немец недочеловек ублюдок как всегда по клише
ЗАЕБАЛО это !
у Ni17 там нет НИХУЯ! не брони ничего так что ПИЗДА была бы летуну в любом случае а уж эти ковбойские перестрелки ) в 1914~16 да еще было но не на такой дистанции и не так точно ибо скорость и ветер
мне еще одну лекцию писать о том что это не херня и не бред? советское кино согласен ляпов много
но сейчас то ))))) это не о ляпах это тупая дрочка на америку
я абсолютно не против сша но против искажения фактов
а вы уважаемый где служили? если что я вам об этом сказал ............ кстати ваш канал глянул
П.С на М4А1 с подвешенным М203
ОООЧЕНЬ Редко когда вешают снайперскую оптику
либо DMR либо Grenadier Rifle
это простите из опыта)))) много друзей в армии США
но это к матчасти фильма дела не имеет
так просто посмотрел с кем беседую ) тоже в страйкбол играл
но не покемонил ~ если что ACOG или ЕОTech ставьте на свой "Ассолт Карбин" или М16А3/4 с Оптикой а лучше Мк12-SPR берите
Like in cars 3 when cruz rameriz flipped over jackson storm and wins the race 🏁
Dishonorable kill.
2:03 I would have given him the "Thanks for the help, A-hole!" Look. 😂😂
Rubbish.. Hollywood fantasy... quietly let the guy sit on your tail until he completely shot you up. Then, and only then, pull the barrel roll in your shot up plane to finish up beside him as he just sits there and allows you to shoot him in the head with pin point accuracy with a revolver.. meanwhile all your buddies have disappeared, to then miraculously reappear at the end. Utter...crap.
"Epic scene "
The movie was worth it for this scene alone.
So, the trick is: "make a loop, take your revólver". Got it.
So fun fact back when I was a senior in high school most of the school was actually in the auditorium watching this movie. When this part came on and he shot the German pilot the entire auditorium all jumped out of their seats cheering that he killed him.
Lesson to learn here never taunt a kill… NEVER
This comment section contains People complaining about a movie not being realistic. First off they are wrong as like this scene dogfighting was first done with small arms and unarmed planes, second this is a god damn movie, not real life. There are going to be a few seemingly unrealistic things taking place in order to wow the audience. Third. This movie was inspired by a true story, not based off of it, anyone who passed English class knows there is a difference between those two words.
German Pilot died for being a Gentleman at War.