A huge thank you to Ivy for having me on to talk about ceremonial magic and the grimoires! We could have talked for hours at great length and speed with how exciting the conversation was! For those wondering, here is a list of grimoires I mentioned in the video along with a few others I didn't: The Arbatel of Magic Agrippa’s Three Books of Occult Philosophy The Fourth Book of Occult Philosophy The Book of Gold The Heptameron Elucidarium Necromantiae (precursor to the Heptameron) The Greater and Lesser Keys of Solomon (multiple editions of this exist with Mathers being the most popular. I prefer the Peterson edition) The Veritable Key of Solomon The Magical Treatise of Solomon: Hygromanteia The Grimoire of Arthur Gauntlet Sixth and Seventh Books of Moses The Book of Oberon Picatrix Cunning Man’s Grimoire or the Secret of Secrets The Sworn Book of Honorius (Liber Juratus)
There have been a few comments about the speed of dialect in this video. Astra and I are both fast talkers and it isn't something we can really help, unfortunately! (I think I'm talking incredibly slow in my mind, trying to be as intentional as possible, but then I listen to myself back and I'm STILL talking fast. 😂 I'm trying, you guys. I promise. LOL!) So if this is an issue, I recommend going into the settings of this video and reducing the speed by .75. That seems to really help! There is also closed captioning as well. 😊
I just repeat sections as I tend to space off, and it has nothing to do with anyone's rate of speech 😂 I've heard this same issue from other creators. This is why the settings option is there. I have many strong opinions on tailoring information to make everyone happy. I don't mind the podcast style a bit, and I really appreciate the section titles. I've learned quite a bit here! Yay to my next 🐰 🕳 😂
Thank you for the speed recomendation, it goes better now. I already put the captions on. Since english is not my first language, some accents made understanding the words still difficult to me. And this info is great so thank you!
Thank you so much for this! Astra is amazing and very passionate when she speaks, but she talks sooooooo fast! I almost stopped the video because I was frustrated. I wasn't going to say anything because I didn't want to be judgmental. Thank you!
The story about the buildings blew my mind. Thank you Ivy for being such a great interviewer and thank you Astralogical for your intelligent and nuanced answers👍.
@@IvyTheOccultistI did something very bad I'm young and ignorant and just wanting to know if you could put me back to normal... so basically I had no experience on spell casting and I tried one of the spells on the spellsofmagic page and it made me telepathic can you put me back to normal I beg you 😭 and also my thoughts could speak to me I think of people and that thought is able to speak to me Is there any witches that can help me
Loving all the extra-long Ivy content you've been treating us to lately!! Recently, I've been learning about mysticism, folk magic, and ceremonial magic within the Catholic tradition and I am curious to know more about what you know/your opinions - particularly when it comes to the institution of the church vs the spiritual practices, and the church essentially burying any elements of mysticism from religious education. Apparently the Protestants used to think of the Catholics as witches and I'm starting to think they were right! 😂
There are actually a lot of branches of Christianity that view Catholicism as witchcraft 😂 Southern Baptists definitely consider Catholics as witches! I can't speak too much on it though because I have never been a Christian of any kind. But yes, the church definitely tried their best to bury anything magic related for centuries!
Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 02:27 Who is Astralogical? 04:00 Astralogical's Origin Story 08:25 The Tools of a Ceremonial Magician 13:10 Astra's Personal Practice 14:54 Why Ceremonial Magick? 16:29 Grimoires Astra Has Worked With 21:55 Overrated Grimoires 28:52 Underrated Grimoires 33:08 Following Rituals Verbatim 41:58 Spirits & Planetary Magick 52:18 Elemental Spirits, Gnomes 56:18 Personal Grimoires 01:01:28 Goetia, Angles & Demons 01:07:14 Armchair Magicians 01:08:52 Resources & Translations 01:14:17 The Community of Ceremonial Magick 01:25:15 Where To Find Astralogical
This was a REALLY fascinating interview. Astra demonstrates a remarkable level of dedication, which I think is the key to her success. The experience that practitioners like her have is so valuable, especially to those of us who will probably never practice this kind of thing ourselves. Thank you for this one!
Hey Ivy! I rarely comment on videos. And while this video itself is amazing, I want to say thank you for ALL of your videos. As someone in the healthcare field I resonate so much with who you are when it comes to spirituality and magical practices (at least what you've been kind enough to share w/us). I am so science driven. Anyways! I just wanted to let you know how much I genuinely love and appreciate every single video you've put out. You are truly an inspiration for me, and have opened up my eyes to so many mew ways of thinking and living. I wish you nothing but the best in your personal and academic life. And I truly hope you know how much we, as your subscribers, love and support you and your work 💖
What a great episode!! Ivy, you're such a great interviewer, and it felt very casual but also informative. Thank you to Astrological for providing some knowledge and insight about ceremonial Magick. ❤✨️
This video is literally what i need in a cozy day ! You are awesome Ivy and you are inspiring my craft all the time, thank you for this video and for everything !
This is the best episode I've seen on this channel to date. Your guest was experienced in practical application and straight forward in her answers. Your questions were thoughtful and insightful, and the conversation was a pleasure to listen to. Visuals would have only detracted from the experience, I didn't miss them in the slightest. Well done, more like this!
This interview lead me into a rabbit hole of reading (or starting to) Agrippa's Three Books of Occult Philosophy-- thank you so much for including some underrated grimoires!
I loved this video! I don't know much about the Grimoire Tradition but this was an amazing interview, and Astralogical had a treasure trove of info to share. I'm definitely going to check out her podcast and read some books about this branch of magic. I don't know if I want to practice it but it's definitely a good thing to know about haha 😆
A good place to start learning about ceremonial magic is Llewellyns Big Book of Ceremonial Magic, but that's quite large. A more succinct introduction, though not particularly ceremonial, would be B.J. Swaine's Living Spirits book. Enjoy diving in!
Oh this episode just gave me so many ideas in diving deeper into spirit work. Also I pray to Saturn every Saturday and he has a heavy energy that does envelope you and feel the room it's a super strong vibe so I totally understand when she was talking about the spirit of Saturn.
this was very informative ..i never knew what ceremonial magic really was cause no one ever talked about it. Hearing about it from an actual practitioner was awesome. Learned a lot from this ...and yes, I very much agree about how Catholic is in a way woven in with folk traditions which is how I grew up small village Catholic church in which my favorite services was the celebration of Mary (I will never forget the small maypole we had and how we were allowed to place flowers on the statue of Mary's feet 😊) thank you for a great discussion
I absolutely absolutely loved this video. It really helped me with a better understanding of ceremonial magic. After learning more in-depth about it, definitely not for me. For one I am too lazy. Second, although the ritualism appeals to the old Christian in me, The new and liberated me also rebels against anything of that sort. Lastly, as a blind person, not sure how assessable the old grimoire would be for me. This video was, as usual, a joy to watch and learn from.
Good stuff Ivy! Love your interviews as always! Although I have something you'd be interested in: If you really want to learn more about Goetia devils & demons - seek out Behemoth X or Michael Hyson, they are both powerful black magicians that really know their stuff. And can go into great detail on the subject of Goetia. I really think it'd be a great opportunity for you to dive deep into such a subject with a black magicians perspective! 🤘👹🖤
Ivy this video was amazing 🤩 loved every minute of it ! 🙌🙌🙌🙌 can you please share where we can find her ? I know she said the names but I guess I am not spelling something correctly 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thank you, Ivy, for your great interviews!! I've been very interested in learning ceremonial magic for quite a while. While I'm still going to research CM I fear that 48 years of heavy religious trauma might keep this magic out of my reach. 😢
Ivy, I'm listening again with the speed set to your recommendation of .75, and it is so much better. Thank you for the reminder and I love the interview.
You talked alittle bit about having a "spirit team" built up. In creating that did you reach out to form relationships with spirits specifically because you had something in mind to work with them on? Or did you reach out for just the purpose of establishing a connection and seeing if things vibed well? Im interested in doing work with dragons specifically but I dont have a specific purpose in mind. Im hesitant to do any sort of calling ceremony without like a "good" reason, I've just always been fascinated with their mythology and energy.
She would make an excellent auctioneer! Speaks 500 words per minute with gusts up to 700 wpm... if the very rapid speech pattern gives you trouble, mute it and use the closed captioning. Focus on that, it'll help.
Yes, she talks SO fast! I missed a big portion of what she said because it wasn't clear. Which is a shame because I'm VERY interested in everything she was talking about. I'll try re-listening with the closed caption on. Good idea! 😀
Yes, thank you for the tips! There's also an option in the settings to reduce the video speed by .75 which works really well if the talking is too fast 😊
I loved this. I do wish y’all would have explained a little bit more about who the names of these spirits are and what the different grimoires entail. I have no back history of ceremonial magic and I just felt a little lost with what all these different books contain! For me I just have more questions than I did going into this video, which isn’t a bad thing! Just sparked some curiosity :)
Oh no, I'm so sorry you felt lost! I'd love to do another video that goes more into "ceremonial magick 101" topics. But because it has been so long since I dove into ceremonial magick, I'll have to find someone willing to do that during an interview! 😆♥️ I probably should have prefaced this video that this is a "down the rabbit hole" conversation. Lol!
Grimoires are working books of magicians over the centuries in their simplest form. It is difficult to be exact because of the wide array of spirits often cited within them - including angels, demons, fairies, elementals, gods, and others! It is a bit of a steep price at the moment, but David Rankine just published his wonderful Grimoire Encyclopedia collection. The first volume, in particular, lists all the grimoires he is familiar with along with a small explanation of the things you've asked for.
Secrets of Working with Magickal Grimoires by Aaron Leitch and Llewellyn's Complete Book of Ceremonial Magick are good places to start if you're completely new.
I don't think that ceremonial magic has to be Christian. You can rewrite the texts and gear them towards your own patron god or goddess. Many of the spirits, like the olymptic spirits and elementals, are not part of the Christian world view, also many old gods got demonized and you find their sigills in there. There are also some lodges that have their own way to do Ceremonial magic, and of course, every magician has their own way. For example, instead of the LBRP, there are other banishing rituals, like Hamarr (invoking Thor) or Wall von Kristall (sorry, that's German, idk if there is an english version). Edit: You can also make your own holy water, by consecrating it with the help of your patron god/goddess, an angel or another being you see as holy.
Hi Abe, that's a completely valid worldview, though I would offer a few corrections! The Olympic Spirits in the Arbatel are of Christian origin (note that I am not talking about deities from the Roman pantheon) and if you read the Arbatel itself, it is very clearly written with the intent of its practitioner to be a believer. The elementals are nature spirits and certainly exist outside of Christianity, but it is important to note that the prayers of their invocation from Eliphas Levi include calling upon God as their created and Paracelsus himself instructs us to pray alongside the elementals and praise their (our) Creator with them for them to obtain favor and graces. You most certainly can adjust a ritual to incorporate your own deities, but I would pose a question of why? If they do not natural fit into that traditions framework would it not be better to take from their own mythology or tradition (even reconstructed) so that you perform a ritual appropriate to their station and title? As you mentioned, there are other banishing rituals - nearly every tradition has one of its own - that can be used instead of the LBRP (which is not strictly a banishing ritual to begin with, but I digress). Food for thought and thank you for your comment!
So sorry to read that! There's an option on TH-cam to reduce the speed by .75 in the settings and that might help a bit if it's a speed issue. Otherwise, closed captioning is available as well 💙💙
this is an amazing episode !! - thank you for giving props to Agrippa - happy your Gnomes moved in - thank you for addressing my question about translations - this is such an awesome and informative episode, totally sparks my mind and experiences. i could go on for a whole conversation, but i will just say thank you, and peace! 🪐
A huge thank you to Ivy for having me on to talk about ceremonial magic and the grimoires! We could have talked for hours at great length and speed with how exciting the conversation was! For those wondering, here is a list of grimoires I mentioned in the video along with a few others I didn't:
The Arbatel of Magic
Agrippa’s Three Books of Occult Philosophy
The Fourth Book of Occult Philosophy
The Book of Gold
The Heptameron
Elucidarium Necromantiae (precursor to the Heptameron)
The Greater and Lesser Keys of Solomon (multiple editions
of this exist with Mathers being the most popular. I prefer the Peterson edition)
The Veritable Key of Solomon
The Magical Treatise of Solomon: Hygromanteia
The Grimoire of Arthur Gauntlet
Sixth and Seventh Books of Moses
The Book of Oberon
Picatrix
Cunning Man’s Grimoire or the Secret of Secrets
The Sworn Book of Honorius (Liber Juratus)
Thank you so much Astra!!!
Thank you Astra, very thoughtful of you!❤
There have been a few comments about the speed of dialect in this video. Astra and I are both fast talkers and it isn't something we can really help, unfortunately! (I think I'm talking incredibly slow in my mind, trying to be as intentional as possible, but then I listen to myself back and I'm STILL talking fast. 😂 I'm trying, you guys. I promise. LOL!) So if this is an issue, I recommend going into the settings of this video and reducing the speed by .75. That seems to really help! There is also closed captioning as well. 😊
I just repeat sections as I tend to space off, and it has nothing to do with anyone's rate of speech 😂 I've heard this same issue from other creators. This is why the settings option is there. I have many strong opinions on tailoring information to make everyone happy. I don't mind the podcast style a bit, and I really appreciate the section titles.
I've learned quite a bit here! Yay to my next 🐰 🕳 😂
I was able to keep up just fine.
Thank you for the speed recomendation, it goes better now. I already put the captions on. Since english is not my first language, some accents made understanding the words still difficult to me. And this info is great so thank you!
Thank you so much for this! Astra is amazing and very passionate when she speaks, but she talks sooooooo fast! I almost stopped the video because I was frustrated. I wasn't going to say anything because I didn't want to be judgmental. Thank you!
I’m able to keep up fine, I wish I could relate😅
The story about the buildings blew my mind. Thank you Ivy for being such a great interviewer and thank you Astralogical for your intelligent and nuanced answers👍.
So glad you enjoyed the conversation! ♥️♥️
Thank you for listening!
@@IvyTheOccultistI did something very bad I'm young and ignorant and just wanting to know if you could put me back to normal... so basically I had no experience on spell casting and I tried one of the spells on the spellsofmagic page and it made me telepathic can you put me back to normal I beg you 😭 and also my thoughts could speak to me I think of people and that thought is able to speak to me Is there any witches that can help me
Loving all the extra-long Ivy content you've been treating us to lately!!
Recently, I've been learning about mysticism, folk magic, and ceremonial magic within the Catholic tradition and I am curious to know more about what you know/your opinions - particularly when it comes to the institution of the church vs the spiritual practices, and the church essentially burying any elements of mysticism from religious education. Apparently the Protestants used to think of the Catholics as witches and I'm starting to think they were right! 😂
There are actually a lot of branches of Christianity that view Catholicism as witchcraft 😂 Southern Baptists definitely consider Catholics as witches! I can't speak too much on it though because I have never been a Christian of any kind. But yes, the church definitely tried their best to bury anything magic related for centuries!
A lot of the time I use TH-cam like it's a podcast app. You're all good!
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@@IvyTheOccultist also omg this convo has been amazing! Really cool to hear from someone who has gone all out with grimoiric magic 💯💯💯💯💯💯
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
02:27 Who is Astralogical?
04:00 Astralogical's Origin Story
08:25 The Tools of a Ceremonial Magician
13:10 Astra's Personal Practice
14:54 Why Ceremonial Magick?
16:29 Grimoires Astra Has Worked With
21:55 Overrated Grimoires
28:52 Underrated Grimoires
33:08 Following Rituals Verbatim
41:58 Spirits & Planetary Magick
52:18 Elemental Spirits, Gnomes
56:18 Personal Grimoires
01:01:28 Goetia, Angles & Demons
01:07:14 Armchair Magicians
01:08:52 Resources & Translations
01:14:17 The Community of Ceremonial Magick
01:25:15 Where To Find Astralogical
This was a REALLY fascinating interview. Astra demonstrates a remarkable level of dedication, which I think is the key to her success. The experience that practitioners like her have is so valuable, especially to those of us who will probably never practice this kind of thing ourselves. Thank you for this one!
Hey Ivy! I rarely comment on videos. And while this video itself is amazing, I want to say thank you for ALL of your videos. As someone in the healthcare field I resonate so much with who you are when it comes to spirituality and magical practices (at least what you've been kind enough to share w/us). I am so science driven.
Anyways! I just wanted to let you know how much I genuinely love and appreciate every single video you've put out. You are truly an inspiration for me, and have opened up my eyes to so many mew ways of thinking and living. I wish you nothing but the best in your personal and academic life. And I truly hope you know how much we, as your subscribers, love and support you and your work 💖
Thank you so much for taking the time to write such a sweet comment. I really appreciate it! 🙏♥️
What a great episode!! Ivy, you're such a great interviewer, and it felt very casual but also informative. Thank you to Astrological for providing some knowledge and insight about ceremonial Magick. ❤✨️
This video is literally what i need in a cozy day ! You are awesome Ivy and you are inspiring my craft all the time, thank you for this video and for everything !
Thank you so much! I hope you enjoy the discussion! 🙏💙
I just moved back to my dorms for uni and had this on the whole time I was unpacking. Was really what I needed. Also super insightful!
I love this. Perfect timing! I hope your school year goes well! 😊♥️
Brilliant thank you so much to both of you.
And a huge thank you to Astralogical for answering my question so thoroughly.
Astra is so fantastic. I'm glad you loved the discussion! 💙
Thank you for submitting a question!
This is the best episode I've seen on this channel to date. Your guest was experienced in practical application and straight forward in her answers. Your questions were thoughtful and insightful, and the conversation was a pleasure to listen to. Visuals would have only detracted from the experience, I didn't miss them in the slightest. Well done, more like this!
So glad you enjoyed it!
This interview lead me into a rabbit hole of reading (or starting to) Agrippa's Three Books of Occult Philosophy-- thank you so much for including some underrated grimoires!
I loved this video! I don't know much about the Grimoire Tradition but this was an amazing interview, and Astralogical had a treasure trove of info to share. I'm definitely going to check out her podcast and read some books about this branch of magic. I don't know if I want to practice it but it's definitely a good thing to know about haha 😆
A good place to start learning about ceremonial magic is Llewellyns Big Book of Ceremonial Magic, but that's quite large. A more succinct introduction, though not particularly ceremonial, would be B.J. Swaine's Living Spirits book. Enjoy diving in!
Oh this episode just gave me so many ideas in diving deeper into spirit work. Also I pray to Saturn every Saturday and he has a heavy energy that does envelope you and feel the room it's a super strong vibe so I totally understand when she was talking about the spirit of Saturn.
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this was very informative ..i never knew what ceremonial magic really was cause no one ever talked about it. Hearing about it from an actual practitioner was awesome. Learned a lot from this ...and yes, I very much agree about how Catholic is in a way woven in with folk traditions which is how I grew up small village Catholic church in which my favorite services was the celebration of Mary (I will never forget the small maypole we had and how we were allowed to place flowers on the statue of Mary's feet 😊) thank you for a great discussion
This is in my top 5 of your interviews so far, too. Thanks so much for this.
I absolutely absolutely loved this video. It really helped me with a better understanding of ceremonial magic. After learning more in-depth about it, definitely not for me. For one I am too lazy. Second, although the ritualism appeals to the old Christian in me, The new and liberated me also rebels against anything of that sort. Lastly, as a blind person, not sure how assessable the old grimoire would be for me. This video was, as usual, a joy to watch and learn from.
Very interesting conversation! Thank you ,Ivy and Astra!❤
Good stuff Ivy! Love your interviews as always! Although I have something you'd be interested in: If you really want to learn more about Goetia devils & demons - seek out Behemoth X or Michael Hyson, they are both powerful black magicians that really know their stuff. And can go into great detail on the subject of Goetia. I really think it'd be a great opportunity for you to dive deep into such a subject with a black magicians perspective! 🤘👹🖤
Thank you for the recommendations!! 🖤🖤🖤
@@IvyTheOccultist I'll always find something good for ya 🤘🍎🐍
Now that I got to the final credits...😮 Wow! This was great! Lots of great info to unpack! Thank you both for this!
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Loved the podcast style! What a great interview!
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Great episode! Astralogical is so knowledgeable.
And Ivy is an ***awesome*** interviewer ❤
Fascinating stuff.
I'm so glad you enjoyed the interview! ♥️
Ivy, this is freakin 💥💥🔥🔥🔥. Both of you inspired me to dig out my Key of Solomon!!!
YES!!!! Oh I'm so excited for you to dig that old Grimoire out!! 🖤
Ivy this video was amazing 🤩 loved every minute of it ! 🙌🙌🙌🙌 can you please share where we can find her ? I know she said the names but I guess I am not spelling something correctly 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thank you, Ivy, for your great interviews!!
I've been very interested in learning ceremonial magic for quite a while.
While I'm still going to research CM I fear that 48 years of heavy religious trauma might keep this magic out of my reach. 😢
I definitely resonate with that. Hopefully you are eventually able to make peace with it! ♥️
Ivy, I'm listening again with the speed set to your recommendation of .75, and it is so much better. Thank you for the reminder and I love the interview.
Ahh, I'm so glad!! 💙💙💙
You talked alittle bit about having a "spirit team" built up. In creating that did you reach out to form relationships with spirits specifically because you had something in mind to work with them on? Or did you reach out for just the purpose of establishing a connection and seeing if things vibed well? Im interested in doing work with dragons specifically but I dont have a specific purpose in mind. Im hesitant to do any sort of calling ceremony without like a "good" reason, I've just always been fascinated with their mythology and energy.
She would make an excellent auctioneer! Speaks 500 words per minute with gusts up to 700 wpm... if the very rapid speech pattern gives you trouble, mute it and use the closed captioning. Focus on that, it'll help.
Yes, she talks SO fast! I missed a big portion of what she said because it wasn't clear. Which is a shame because I'm VERY interested in everything she was talking about. I'll try re-listening with the closed caption on. Good idea! 😀
Thanks for posting, I didn't want to miss a thing she said either! @@CalifPrincess
Yes, thank you for the tips! There's also an option in the settings to reduce the video speed by .75 which works really well if the talking is too fast 😊
@@CalifPrincesshopefully you can see my comment above as well! 😊
@@IvyTheOccultist Thank you Ivy, I had forgotten about that...
Reminds me of the Grand Grimiore thats talked about a lot 😮😮😊
Yes! The Grand Grimoire is one in a collection of Faustian grimoires from the 19th century all similar to the working style of the Grimorium Verum.
Can someone list some of the specific grimoires they talked about? I didn’t catch most of them.
Astra just commented the whole list of grimoires she mentioned! 😊 I'd copy and paste it here, but TH-cam won't let me. Lol!
Omg im so excited!!! The Arbatel of Magic is it an actual book? If so does anyone have the link to order it?
I loved this. I do wish y’all would have explained a little bit more about who the names of these spirits are and what the different grimoires entail. I have no back history of ceremonial magic and I just felt a little lost with what all these different books contain! For me I just have more questions than I did going into this video, which isn’t a bad thing! Just sparked some curiosity :)
Oh no, I'm so sorry you felt lost! I'd love to do another video that goes more into "ceremonial magick 101" topics. But because it has been so long since I dove into ceremonial magick, I'll have to find someone willing to do that during an interview! 😆♥️ I probably should have prefaced this video that this is a "down the rabbit hole" conversation. Lol!
Grimoires are working books of magicians over the centuries in their simplest form. It is difficult to be exact because of the wide array of spirits often cited within them - including angels, demons, fairies, elementals, gods, and others! It is a bit of a steep price at the moment, but David Rankine just published his wonderful Grimoire Encyclopedia collection. The first volume, in particular, lists all the grimoires he is familiar with along with a small explanation of the things you've asked for.
@@Astra.logical thank you so much!! I appreciate you taking the time to explain :)
@@IvyTheOccultist I still ate it up, so no apologies!! You should definitely do a video like that tho, I would love to learn more :)
Secrets of Working with Magickal Grimoires by Aaron Leitch and Llewellyn's Complete Book of Ceremonial Magick are good places to start if you're completely new.
I don't think that ceremonial magic has to be Christian. You can rewrite the texts and gear them towards your own patron god or goddess. Many of the spirits, like the olymptic spirits and elementals, are not part of the Christian world view, also many old gods got demonized and you find their sigills in there. There are also some lodges that have their own way to do Ceremonial magic, and of course, every magician has their own way. For example, instead of the LBRP, there are other banishing rituals, like Hamarr (invoking Thor) or Wall von Kristall (sorry, that's German, idk if there is an english version).
Edit: You can also make your own holy water, by consecrating it with the help of your patron god/goddess, an angel or another being you see as holy.
Hi Abe, that's a completely valid worldview, though I would offer a few corrections! The Olympic Spirits in the Arbatel are of Christian origin (note that I am not talking about deities from the Roman pantheon) and if you read the Arbatel itself, it is very clearly written with the intent of its practitioner to be a believer. The elementals are nature spirits and certainly exist outside of Christianity, but it is important to note that the prayers of their invocation from Eliphas Levi include calling upon God as their created and Paracelsus himself instructs us to pray alongside the elementals and praise their (our) Creator with them for them to obtain favor and graces.
You most certainly can adjust a ritual to incorporate your own deities, but I would pose a question of why? If they do not natural fit into that traditions framework would it not be better to take from their own mythology or tradition (even reconstructed) so that you perform a ritual appropriate to their station and title? As you mentioned, there are other banishing rituals - nearly every tradition has one of its own - that can be used instead of the LBRP (which is not strictly a banishing ritual to begin with, but I digress). Food for thought and thank you for your comment!
Interesting conversation.
You're definitely not a lazy witch, ma'am. You're a smart one, though!
Oh I am definitely lazy - I just keep that part off camera. 😂 But I'll take it!! LOL
@@IvyTheOccultist 😆
Did they remove Astras list of grimoires?!
Interesting but I can't understand the guest speaking very well. Great topic though.
So sorry to read that! There's an option on TH-cam to reduce the speed by .75 in the settings and that might help a bit if it's a speed issue. Otherwise, closed captioning is available as well 💙💙
this is an amazing episode !! - thank you for giving props to Agrippa - happy your Gnomes moved in - thank you for addressing my question about translations - this is such an awesome and informative episode, totally sparks my mind and experiences. i could go on for a whole conversation, but i will just say thank you, and peace! 🪐
I am so glad; thank you!!
Your question was wonderful!! I, of course, hope your studies take you towards translation so we can expand our knowledge of this tradition even more!
Thank you for this video. I now know this path is definitely NOT for me.
Really? Astrological* spell much?
Her name is Astralogical. Astra for short. Not to be confused with Astrological. Yes, I can spell, thanks for checking 😊
@genghisgalahad8465
Really ? Listen much ? Read much ? It’s clearly in the description etc
@@seekingvision😂 Nah, that would take too much work