Stellaris 3.6 NEW Psionic Covenant Mechanics
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ส.ค. 2024
- Stellaris 3.6 Orion open beta is out and we are getting some massive changes to the covenant mechanics for psionic empires. Dive deep into the Warhammer 40,000 universe and sign the souls of your people over to wrathful Khorne, devious Tzeentch, pestilential Nurgle or cruel Slaanesh! Or whatever we call them in Stellaris...
Get empire wide bonuses, special triats and ship components from this pact! Stellaris psionic ascension may now be overpowered in Stellaris 3.6 Orion...
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28:24 TTS update
32:19 Beta update patch notes
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@@insertnamehere6659 20 hours from now!
Where do the names of the gods come from?
Only 5 minutes left...
I am not a professional designer or game tester, but from what I understand whisperer of the void covenant flavorwise isn't supposed to be about techrushing, cause that would make synthetic ascensions obsolete, it is like their entire schtick. I think they are supposed to be about making the strongest lategame fleet in the galaxy because evasion bonuses unlike fleet damage and naval capacity bonuses have effectively increasing returns, and research bonuses are there just to make sure that you can still keep up technologically with other ascensions. Your economy would still tank, but every one of the ships you make would eventually be about multiple times stronger than any ship your competition makes. A fun specialized tradeoff imo.
“The beast that will devour the world” *Bubbles appears from the smoke*
Aww bubbles, the Stellaris Community loves you.
We need a way to make bubbles a weapon of mass destruction
@@TastelessM-13 No, never. Leave him as the empire mascot for the friendliest dictatorship ever to bless the universe
I play a brutal violent Xenophobe almost every game and even we love Bubbles.
@@TastelessM-13 Like Mooncake in Final Space "chubbity"😂
I got the Composer of Strands as my first option and took it because it was new. And it has basically no downsides, other than occasionally removing a trait rather than adding so I have to reapply templates. But God it's amazing, randomly added intelligent to an Erudite pop. Bargaining my soul never felt so profitable.
Was this in the beta or a prior version? The stat table said it takes away up to 2 trait picks, which made me think that was supposed to put you more at the mercy of the random mutations and unable to correct them with genemodding, is that correct?
@@JabberwockOclock i think so, yes
For me it removed the budding trait. I lost so much pop assembly on it...
I like the desire one
No drawbacks there
Kinda
I dont know 1- trait pick seems huge
Time to do a Knights of the Toxic God origin, and devote my empire to Grandfather Nurgle
That is a great idea for a run.
@@wolfhunter98 hello nerd
I hope The End Of The Cycle gets a good touch up afterwards, id love a playable Reckoning as a form of becoming the crisis
honestly I think the reason they didn't update it is that there's nothing to improve
@@letsplaysvonaja1714 Hard to improve on big bright red letters saying DO NOT DO THIS that you end up doing anyway, but be fun to see what they offer up even if it never gets used in-game.
@@letsplaysvonaja1714 It's hilariously underpowered, it just needs a massive stat buff and set so the other empires in the game will react and try to attack it.
@@JenkoRun you take it, get a pretty noticeable buff, attack some stuff in your area and then after a while you either die or restart with all stuff, but none of your planets and if you miraculously manage still not to die you can fight a fun mini-boss
@@letsplaysvonaja1714 It needs a stat buff, otherwise, you can recover fast enough to steamroll it. And the other empires really should try to attack it.
Ah yes, the definetly-not-chaos-gods.
Smeegle, Korncob, Twitch, and Slippery Joe.
@@tomisabum Why does this work so well?
@@tomisabum Khaan, Tezen, Slaan and Narag. :)
Slippery Joe is Perfect
Montu: From now on I will refer to the entities with their Stellaris name
Montu 5 minutes later: It does seem, at least from my perspective, to be heavily weighted for Nurgle to be the best, followed by Khorne for Combat...
sick changes! Looking forward to try them out in their final form
I tried! Tzeentch knows I tried
@@MontuPlays JUST AS PLANNED
That 200% upkeep though. >.<
Might release or otherwise leave a random AI empire as a "war pet" where it's just one planet, one way hyperlane. Big old fortress station to guard your space.
Forever at war. No risk of death as with one planet they'd never be able to build enough break it.
Long as they don't figure out jump drives... On that note, would like to see a FTL "bubble" mega structure that blocks jumps in and maybe out? Or just hostiles ones.
Maybe 2? As you'd war exhaust out one day, then have that truce timer. I'd be concerned the AI would join or vassal itself to another empire, though suppose you could just kill them next. No claims, no annex'ing them. No more overlord for them.
Hearing the flavor text instead of having to pause the game to read it everytime certainly sounds like a welcome change.
It'd be fun if they could synthesize a custom TTS based on your current advisor. I imagine it'd be longer down the line since that kind of tech takes time to set up but I would personally *adore* something like that.
Yeah at least one for each of the species types or ascension paths would be cool
Something with that line of thinking would be epic
They should add an end game crisis where you can betray the gods. As a result, they become angry and invade to destroy you.
And when you beat them maybe put them into pokeballs and get some bonus powers or units. Oh wait, wrong ascension, this is not the synth one.
@@ShinForgotPassxXx no no no, you know how fallen empires can cause a war in heaven? Make it so regular empires can also cause them, specifically psionic vs synthetic (with some genetically ascended fanatic militarists aiding the psionics), and if the synths win they get the pokeballs.
@@bonogiamboni4830 war in the heaven IA a metaphor :p it's just 2 awakened empires fighting and dragging the galaxy into a galactic war. Since it happens in the mid game, the awakened empires are so superior to the normal empires that they are considered "gods"
@@Amigocreeper-il2wx yeah that's why it would be awesome to have it for late game player empires if we are even above their peak and soaring through the clouds we deserve to have a war in heaven
Horus Heresy Moment
This is WAY more interesting than the old system for sure; glad they're flexing the new muscle that is the Situation System.
Now we need a God Emperor path to counter chaos shroud gods
That would be great. Becoming a galactic custodian as a genetic ascendancy seems close.
That is an interesting take on the psionics. Thanks for the explanation.
I hope you enjoyed the video!
@@MontuPlays I absolutely do, sir. I just put on the headphone, play Elite Dangerous while listen to your video. Thanks for the upload.
The lack of picks for the chosen reflects the gods pretty well.
The whisperer hates order in all forms: "Governor"
The composer hates the lifeless void: "Admiral"
The instrument hates death and the end of experience: "General"
And as you said, the eater hating science makes sense.
As someone who doesn't know much about Warhammer, using the Warhammer names instead of the Stellaris names really broke my brain
I think the idea with Slaanesh, is that if ethics play into which you’re likely to get offered, then the xenophile bonus to trade value is meant to be further complimented by slaanesh’s bonus. That’s my guess.
"If you are the player who is constantly at peace"
*Me playing Inward Perfection for the 30th time* Did you call me Montu!?
Inward Perfection into Divine Empire via Chosen One event is still one the best thing to RP
@@valk_7233 Yes, my go to Empire is A Spiritualist Xenophobe Pacifist Dictatorship with the Remnants origin and Inward Perfection and Philosopher King as the starting civics.
Makes it so much fun to suddenly awaken into a Divine Empire and go on crusade. It makes me feel like I am playing a Fallen Empire.
Report to assimilation Station 7
I usually end up becoming Galactic Emperor which removes the Civic in the late game.
I got a lucky psionic tech pop in the first 10 years, then had a lucky shroud breech making a pact with the world eater. At first I thought meh, but as you progress he'll Thanos snap the population on one of your worlds. So I just turned pop growth back on all worlds and would just transfer excess population from one to the newly open jobs. The negative modifier from a Thanos snap is less then overpopulation, truly an inspired mechanic.
I feel like the tzeentch one it maybe makes more sense to increase crime levels instead of a straight stability nerf. Makes sense with all the scheming and such that would be happening but then you would just need to handle the increase in crime. I imagine that would be way less painful than the straight nerf to stability
It's very possible that they initially tried crime, but realized it's way too easy to counteract.
@@NemisCassander I could see that, or them thinking that stability nerfing would just be faster/easier to do
@@Doombot221 Also, I know I am. It a competitive player, but I have routinely been able to get into the 110 Stability range, so losing 15 Stability and going to 95 for Whisperers is a lot less of a sting if you're that high (which Month does mention).
@@NemisCassander however, you have to remember that Prosperity lost it’s +5 stability. That’s 5 extra stability you can’t use to offset the negatives
I read that as "ssethtzeentach" and took some good 20 seconds processing how the hell he's related to stellaris
The info on the Eater of Worlds makes me wish even more that hive minds could go psionic. Being a terravore serving the Eater is just too appropriate.
I feel like there should be a special origin for the psychic hive mind, honestly. Sounds weird but I sort of get the lore reasons why a hive mind can't get it, but what if a species become a hive mind because one extremely powerful psychic was the one that too over a weak minded species? I could see it being an origin about one guy who sold out his entire race in order to become immortal, and now he's one of very few members left that are anything more than a psychic drone.
Naturally they get slightly special versions of each deal and unique interactions. Including leaders costing pops in return for starting at a higher level and with good traits as well as improving their own power (empire modifiers) for completing tasks for their chosen entity, since most of species are now little more than bargaining chips for the entity you are now.
@@DemonKing19951 A specific origin would be epic. There's one for hiveys to have hive spawn so it would be cool.
Hive can go psionic with this update
@@SuperShinyDarkness really?? thats awesome, finally!
@@SuperShinyDarkness Mind mentioning where you got that information? I wasn't able to find it anywhere in the dev dairies they put out on steam. Though I may have just missed it.
The Emperor's Text-to-Speech Device
The TTS element sounds really good, I've never been one for sitting and reading the paragraphs of flavour texts in pop ups or excavations so I'll definitely be giving it a go. I would like the option to pause the readings rather than closing the tab and have it still talking at me
Can't wait to find the Crashed Starship archeological site, and have TTS read the "Capitain's Chronicle" out loud.
"TTS has been added to the game"
Lathrix should be happy about that
also, funny that they are adding TTS at the same time as the Shroud rework. almost like the Corpse Emperor could use such a thing...
wow text to speech is so amazing. I am someone who struggles with reading text for various reasons, and audiobooks gave me the ability to enjoy so many books, now I hope to be able to enjoy the wealth of story components in stellaris instead of skimming for results. I hope there is a speed function though as most text to speech is really slow and I prefer to listen at 3.5x speed.
I like how strong the covenants are to balance the other ascensions large pop growth and the fact that the genetic and both synth ascensions are faster to get to than before.
Looks to me that the Instrument of Desire only affects pop upkeep, rather than job upkeep, as in the game the two are often affected separately, so in this case it would only be more food and consumer goods upkeep per pop, rather than for example more minerals for a metallurgist
correct, it also pairs well with sl a very since they have no consumer goods upkeep to increase
My first ever covenant was with the end of the cycle, during a multiplayer where I was Becoming the Crisis and had the Zroni precursor. I was truly blessed by the chaos gods of RNG that day.
I see Paradox continues to dance around Warhammers copyright, I will be patiently waiting for my "ships can now ram the enemy" update.
5:03 - I absolutely lost it XD Thanks Montu, for making my day a little better. I needed that today :)
Yeah, did not see that coming.
As long as they changed/removed the 'price you pay' part I can see all the covenants being used. If they still have the old ones, then you'll only see Desires be used like always since its price to pay was nothing, while the others were often 'you lose a planet.'
I'm kinda assuming those static maluses are actually the new "prices" to pay. Which only makes Nurgle all the better - you're not gonna have a whole lot of mod points anyway, so 2 picks less isn't gonna sting much.
Only eater of worlds had a small chance to lose a planet. The other two only had slightly annoying penalties.
@@agord7591 I mean I’m pretty sure whispers in the void could just kill your leaders occasionally (idk about the other guy, never used him)
Whisperers could give a planet a massive stability malus. It was temp but periodic and massive, though not impossible to counter
@@somerando6243 That's what i meant be annoying penalties. Losing a leader or some stability is nothing compared to losing a whole planet. It's a really low chance of happening but im not a good gambler.
I can see this as a means to ensure Psionic Empires are able to stay relevant in the late game. All this power without needing to tack on extra traits like the other Ascensions. Like, if you go Composer of the Strands, pop growth is no longer an issue.
I know it would be expensive and a pain, but it would be SICK to have text to be actually voiced beyond accessibility. It could be a really cool immersion if the voice was thematic for your playthrough
So you're telling me I could become the Everchosen in Stellaris and wage a galactic chaos apocalypse?
Anyone else find it entertaining you can pull a "Dormammu I've come to bargain" to the Enities by trying to contact them repeatedly
As someone who mained Psionics since Utopia, yeah. I've been waiting for this for *just a little while*.
I'm stoked for TTS. It will be nice to have it playing in the background while I'm doing other stuff. Hopefully there is an easy speed up and rewind setting
Here for the secret shout out! Personally I'm really really happy with all these changes Paradox is very dedicated to making this game as good as it can possibly be. I am concerned about synthetic Ascension getting hard nerfed as well as the Whisperer Covenant not being strong enough. I am also very intrigued with the end of the cycle Covenant. I am a bit worried that the changes will make so end of the cycle is less likely to happen.
If one of the more modern AI models could be trained to speak in the voice of your advisor, using that for TTS would be amazing!
I doubt I'll use it unless it matches advisor voice though, just because of the immersion break.
bruh i already thought psionic was very powerful but now this is gonna be so meta
Would be cool if Shrouders could choose to go down a further dodgy path making it more Chaos-like beyond the covenants. Shroud entity armies, shroud infused ships, ‘rituals,’ planetary decisions, forging shroud rifts (bonuses and penalties in systems near the sacrificed system to make said rift), etc. could throw a new ‘resource’ to balance or whatnot. Could go a long way toward the loss of robots and pop trait increases from other paths. To those that stay more pure and untainted psionic (more typical scifi/sci fantasy) being safer, less costly, and more stable benefits
Would be really cool if they fix the criminal heritage and subversive cult gameplay (doubly if you can really ‘export’ those criminals and cultists)
TTS? Oh yeah. I’m getting the Man-Emperor of Mankind to read my things…
As somebody that uses TTS on a daily bases this is fantastic
I like your“where you say you don’t need eyes to see because that’s where you’re going, it’s a nice reference Dr. Weir would love that
Now I need to reevaluate my Spiritualist empires
Yes Commissar the video right here
Do you have a minute to talk about Horus, our lord and saviour?
@@MontuPlays you mean the arch traitor
@@shadowcookie4512 blood for the blood god?
@@MontuPlays no thanks alpharius has forbidden me from saying that
I don't care that its not super optimal, but I will always choose Tzeentch when I can. The changer of ways is just way too cool.
This plus the knights of the toxic God, we can fully embrace papa nurgle now
On the face of it I think the increased pop upkeep from instrument of desire can be interpreted in two ways.
One way is that it affects all job upkeep, which would be bad as you say since it would make for example metallurgists less efficient.
But it could also be interpreted as only affecting the non job specific upkeep, that is the food and the living standard consumer goods, which is much less of a cost. That would seem like a much better deal to me for that increase in resources from jobs. It would in fact be pretty similar to giving pops high living standards.
Oh, yes if its just the resource upkeep of the pops and not the job upkeep then thats much better!
Wouldn't the former just outright be noted as job upkeep? Pop upkeep is the latter, afair.
@@MontuPlays I have to admit, I believe that it has to be pop upkeep. (Food + Living Standards) Especially if they're leaning into Slaanesh, it's all hedonism, so...
@@Llortnerof You never know in video games, rules text and code are written separately and there are often mistakes on both sides.
I don't know why but pionic has always been my favorite
It seems that, once again, Nurgles blessings remain the most generous. All praise the grandfather, and rejoice! Nurgle loves you ❤️ 💖
When you mentioned TTS I got really excited thinking they were adding a God Emperor of Mankind covenant.
So they reworked all the chaos Gods but didn't change The Chosen One event even though its supposed to be The equivalent for The God Emperor and making your own chaos god?
Take a drink every time he says "whopping". See you on the other side.
And a shot every time I say "massive"?
O. My. God. Military advisor was so amasing. And now they add full voiceover for texts with her. It's so amazing! Want to hear it sooner
I want a halo covenant esque sort of spiritualist path we might get it with the federation type but like more to it the goal of finding ancient ruins of precursor empires or getting bonuses for having fallen empire worlds ect
I may not use TTS personally, but I think it'd be fun if people could use one of the ingame advisor voices instead of their OS default TTS voice.
TTS with the advisor voices would be extremely nice, but probably not possible, as the advisors are prerecorded and the samples are not enough to serve as a template for TTS.
instead of TTS, having the advisor voice read out the text would be amazing (would even pay for that)
Event Horizon takes place in the 40k universe. Change my mind.
FACT
Great movie, and the creators have even said they were heavily inspired from WH40k.
I'm yet to see a story about MP game where crisis player held on hitting level 5 until they could get The End Of The Cycle... and reaction of other players to that combo.
I had to immediately press like after hearing your Khornite impression 😂
Instrument of desire is extra POP upkeep, not Job if I’m interpreting this correctly. Basically more food and consumer goods being used.
Would be awesome if the TTS was read by your selected advisor. I’m sure that would be a nightmare to code, but it’d make me use the TTS even though I don’t need it. While they’re at it they could change the tone of the passage based on which advisor you have selected
Tbh the Mark of the Eater is only slightly better in theory but in reality, it's actually worse as orbital damage isn't really something you ever care about (one day we will have our ground combat rework) so you are getting an auxiliary fire control that is much more expensive with no meaningful benefit..
"TEN percent daily hull regen and FIFTEEN percent daily armor regen"
Almost spit out my drink.
The Eater of World = World Eater Chapter
I see you paradox
I feel like this is setting the stage for benevolent entities to enter the game at a later time. I know it's hard to believe, but I actually listen to your entire video.
By the might of the Shroud, we will rule this galaxy!
Whisperers in the Void needs a buff desperately. The cyborg changes are good.
that "like button" bit startled the hell out of me
I think Cybernetics and Synthetics are quite well balanced now. Cybernetic is quite weak in overall perspective, but you can get Cybernetic AP as soon as you research tier 2 tech.
Meanwhile, you have to research tier 4 tech, Synthetic Workers to get Synthetic Evolution AP...
You can still get Synthetics as a cyborg.
I would be absolutely loving the TTS feature with the Knights of the Toxic God origin and On the Shoulders of Giant origin.
The story text is so long yet I want to understand what happen, I really need someone or something read it for me
my god... that 50% army damage is gonna be so sick on my very strong psionic warriors with warrior culture.
Wish I could make my emperor become immortal by creating a new God in the shroud with the usage of worshipers in your empire.
Be a nice buff to the Imperial Cult civic, and I also think that the Imperial Cult civic should make it harder to worship one of those shroud entities.
I also really wish getting the trait wasn't rng based. Especially considering it is far more valuable for rp purposes than actual in-game benefits.
Arsene I believe has that silent “e” at the end .
TTS that keeps reading after you close the window sounds lit af. I just can't be bothers to read all that while I got forge world optimization on the brain.
my adhd addled and harshly vision impaired ass greatly appreciates the addition of TTS
39:40 I'm still here, king.
Likes for the TH-camrthrone. :D
Comments for the comment god!
Hey Montu, the regarding spiritualism is broken topic:
"I am the messenger of God"
"And what does He tell us to do"
"Give me all your posessions for free"
"Take it...." xD
I couldn't ressist, i had to make this joke.
Quick math very easily shows that .05 output on pretty much any job is easily more worthwhile than an extra .125 food or whatever
Whisperers in the Void receveid a huge nerf there. They should've focused it on research like it was instead of force-bruting espionage into it, or make espionage actually useful before adding *BRAND NEW* ways of acquiring espionage modifiers i.e. of wasting your resources.
Now i kinda want to give Bubbles psionic powers too.
Text to speech...a feature worthy of the Emperor.
You can get both chosen one traits, and even stack them, if the chaos gods are on your side.
Me who worship RNJesus at the alter of save scumming: "It was never a matter of if."
I feel called out... Still with minus eyeballs... I like to listen in the background
Thank you for telling me about TTS I hope this works even a little because it helps I maybe able to read but I am not fast at it and I have yet to finish a single game due to how long my game is and learning every new update
I can't wait for someone to make a mod that lets you join all covenants and have dozens of chosen.
Lorgar Mod
i think Slaanesh is still quite good because its POP upkeep not JOB upkeep, right? Could still be quite good for slaver empires
NO WAY! CHAOS IS IN STELLARIS?! LET'S GOOO!!!
I feel the Warp overtaking me, it is a good pain!
I love how over the past like 4 major updates psionics has gone from dog water to really good.
15:40 I think that sums up the Chaos gods pretty accurately lol
I have no issues reading but the TTS has reignited my passion for this game. I just couldn't be arsed a lot of the time as I get focused on the amazing gameplay and tended to ignore the amazing writing. Now I'm eating my cake and having it to!
Me who knows nothing about these chaos gods: ah yes they work just like the chaos gods.
Too be fair they are far from chaos gods of WH20k they only have some small simillarieties as estereggs. Chaos from warhammer is extreamly self distructing ....
Love the intro
'[...] minus your eyeballs.'
Dang, I got called out, I do primarily listen to these. =P It's a great way to get caught up on changes to the game while working, sorta like listening to a podcast or something.
Rip and tear till the work is done, the eater of worlds does not care where the blood comes from, just that it flows
11:01 The instrument of desire only talks about pop upkeep, not pop jobs upkeep. So it only affects consumer goods and food, which is managable if you compensate it with 5% on all jobs.
Aha yes, the secret callout to offer to the eldritch God of the Algorithm.
I love the fact this game is becoming more and more of a mix of Sci fi worlds especially Warhammer 40k.
I did notice that in the past all AI empires choose synthetic ascension, so I'm glad to see that fixed. Though, I'm still hoping for combat to be slowed down. It's currently wayyy to fast. I actually wanna see the battle and not a simple flash XD