Motorcycle Tour of Ireland on a BMW 1250 GSA and Triumph Tiger 900

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  • @GaryJacko149
    @GaryJacko149 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We have just returned from our 5th trip to Ireland. Took a friend with us and showed him the beautiful south west, returning via Wicklow Mountains. He was blown away with what he saw. Having wall to wall sunshine was an added bonus, our luck with the weather will run out one day. He's itching to get over again and see more of it... oh well looks like ill have to go back again at some point 🙄😁

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks Gary, we’re always blown away by Ireland! You were very lucky with the weather - but rain or not, it’s a country that just keeps drawing you back! 😀👍

  • @colinjames7569
    @colinjames7569 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I would love to visit Ireland one day. I would especially love it on a motorcycle! I stopped riding about two years ago. I had a couple of scares. Sold my bike. I still have my gear. Thinking maybe I might ride again someday. I live in Maine USA. And people really don’t see me even though I use high vis gear all the rest.

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hi Colin, Ireland is definitely worth visiting especially on two wheels! Sorry to hear you had a couple of scares and sold your bike 😔 you’ve certainly got to be really switched on when you ride and expect everyone else to be bad drivers - you could always consider some advanced rider training? Well worth it to get back in the saddle 👍 Hope it all works out for you! 😀

    • @colinjames7569
      @colinjames7569 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@midlifemotorcyclediaries that is really good advice! I will into it. I will look into advanced training. Thank you! I miss the wind and the and smells hahahaj! And my mind is good again.. stress melting away. The feeling of just total freedom, while on two wheels traveling my world is liberating ✌️

  • @mphigham1963
    @mphigham1963 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Fabulous video as always guys, onto part 2 😃😃

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks very much - glad you enjoyed it and hope you like part 2! 😀👍

  • @mikeocallaghan8892
    @mikeocallaghan8892 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great country to visit. I had a week in Kerry this year. As I’m sure you know the roads are so quiet and easy to ride. A really chilling place. And only 1 rainy day in a week.

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s one of our favourite countries to ride in - beautiful scenery, roads, lovely people and of course the Guinness! 😀👍

  • @IainOConnorMotorcycles
    @IainOConnorMotorcycles หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video and music as usual. Gutted for for Sue dropping her beloved Triumph but as Brian says we have all done it 😢. Did Healey last year it is spectacular.

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks very much Iain - yes we have all done it at least once 😳! Thankfully the Healy Pass made up for it! 😀👍

  • @christopherjones3422
    @christopherjones3422 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Shit Sue, Hope your okay and have no lasting damage. Fab to watch as usual.

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi Christopher, no damage to the bike - just to my pride 🤦‍♀️😄Thank you for asking ☺️👍

  • @bogusm8940
    @bogusm8940 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice video guy! Sorry Sue about the bike drop. Dont let it get you down cuz it will happen again someday. Just shake it off and get back on.
    As always, looking forward to the next episode

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you 🙏 I know everyone does it at some time but it’s still really annoying 😳 but glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching! 😀👍

  • @philliplum3845
    @philliplum3845 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Don't worry about dropping your bike.. We have all done it... Main thing is you are OK.. Great video..

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks very much Phillip - you're absolutely right about people dropping their bikes - we've all done it!🙂

  • @ianmott856
    @ianmott856 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Don't worry Sue .we've all done it .. Tigers need to lie down every now and then .Good series looking forward to the rest .

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you Ian - “Tigers need to lie down “ - love it! 😀👍

  • @paulchandler5004
    @paulchandler5004 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This brings back memories of my trip to Ireland in 2022, my gift to me for my 70th. Good organised tour so didn't have to worry about route planning or accommodation etc. Dressed for rain as that is what my weather app said. Turned out be very sunny and hot. Oh, and Sue, you have now joined the clud. We've all done it - so easy manouvering a low speed. Gravity is not your friend. Looking forward to the next episode.

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks very Paul - Ireland is such a great country to ride through! Our first tour surprised us with glorious weather and our second with horrible rain 🤷‍♂️ yesterday, we’ve all dropped our bikes at some time or another - certainly can’t stop them when they’ve reached the tipping point! 😂😀👍

  • @oliverwhitby4778
    @oliverwhitby4778 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Amazing video of the pass that would grace any tv production. I appreciate the time and effort that went into that thanks .

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks very much Oliver 🙏 that’s very kind of you to say so and we really appreciate your feedback! 😀👍

  • @SBKPete
    @SBKPete หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Don’t beat yourself up for dropping the bike. Easy mistake to make, in atrocious conditions.
    Another really enjoyable video 😊
    Have a lovely weekend both of you.

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you Pete. No matter how many times I tell myself everyone drops their bike, I still give myself a hard time 🤦‍♀️😀.
      Glad you enjoyed the video ☺️👍

  • @colinstorrar449
    @colinstorrar449 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was over in June, doing the WAW, but took in the Healy Pass, riding from the Beara Peninsula. The weather was being kind , after days similar to what you were riding in. Sun was high in the sky and the road was dry, couldn’t ask for better, what a Road!. Had a fantastic time and can’t wait to go back next year to continue with the next part of WAW. Graet Video.

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you Colin - the Healy Pass is definitely one of our very favourite roads to ride! We did the WAW in two parts too - best way to do it👍 Hope you have a great trip next year! 😀👍

  • @jimweagant8920
    @jimweagant8920 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the great video and ride along 👍👍🍺🍺

  • @Banditmanuk
    @Banditmanuk หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If it's any consolation, I dropped my Tiger 800XC on my own drive some years ago! Glad you were OK.
    It's a shame the weather wasn't completely with you. Love the look of Healy Pass, Carol & I must do Ireland one day. The spa hotel looked a lovely place to relax. Hotel motorcycle parking should always be on the flattest area, but offen is just in an awkward area where they can't get a car in.
    We both enjoyed watching, thanks.

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks very much Richard - we think you and Carol would absolutely love Ireland! It’s also pretty easy to get to as long as you don’t mind variable weather 🌦️ 😀👍!

  • @marcoluoma3770
    @marcoluoma3770 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for a great episode. I’ve always wanted to visit Ireland so really enjoyed the chance to go along with you. Anybody who's ridden more than a short time has dropped their bike. It’s best to do it as you did: zero mph. Thanks again.

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you Marco, you’re right, we’ve all dropped a bike at some time 😳 it’s always irritating when you do it though! Ireland is a beautiful country but with variable weather conditions 😂 - definitely worth a visit! 😀👍

  • @JohnLongdin
    @JohnLongdin หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video as always thank you. I've been looking forward to your return visit

  • @davegeorge3094
    @davegeorge3094 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's great to see you returning to Ireland, I did exactly the same in July!
    I, too, missed a few key passes last year and felt it necessary to get back and tick them off my list. I enjoyed the Healey pass so much I had to ride it multiple times!!!
    Really appreciate you sharing your experiences, it is a great motivator to get out and ride.
    Best wishes. Dave.

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks very much Dave - we can never get enough of Ireland and the Healy Pass needs doing more than once! 😀👍

  • @leeandjancruise
    @leeandjancruise หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had a recent Viking experience in Copenhagen, £19.62p for two small Danish beers.
    Most have dropped or been close to dropping their bike at some time, you live and learn, another enjoyable journey to watch while I'm sat at home with my feet up in my man cave.
    I was hoping to get the Ducati out this weekend but just had a severe weather warning on my phone so that's not going to happen.
    Ride safe.

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My God!! £19.62!!! That’s definitely a Viking experience we don’t want 😱 - yes, I think we’ve got the same severe weather warning! ☔️🌧️😀

  • @chefhugob
    @chefhugob หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    great video - love the Healy Pass, i live in cork city and used to Work in the Kinsal Hotel and spa...as the Exec. Chef, I am disappointed the food was a let down......I havent worked there in over 2 years- It was good when i was working there😉 iIroad from cork city to kinsale and in and out of that hotel on my fzs1000 everyday for over 3 years - its a lovely road to ride daily, never got tired of it.

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you 🙏 the Healy Pass is such a great ride! Yes, sadly the food at the hotel wasn’t as good as we’d hoped 🙄 pity you weren’t still working there 😀 but you live in a great country and what a great commute! 😀👍

  • @GTC123.
    @GTC123. หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Firstly i really enjoy your travel vlogs , that said one tiny little criticism…. As you guys have a very popular channel i thought that this vlog could put off some of your non European viewers visiting Ireland as it kinda came across like the appalling weather there was specific to Ireland when in actual fact the whole of the U.K was getting battered with rain and wind the whole of Spring and Summer and had the worst ‘ summer ‘ i can recall in my 55yrs …. That aside ….. lovely roads and a smashing place to ride 👍🏼

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for your comment - you’re right we did have a fairly appalling spring/summer 🌧️😳 - but we hope viewers of our channel will have seen our Wild Atlantic Way series 1 where we had amazing sunny weather the whole time! Rain or shine, Ireland is still one of our favourite places to ride 👍 thanks for watching! 😀

  • @WillCarroll44
    @WillCarroll44 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi Brian and Sue,greetings from Ireland, brilliant to see you back again,apologies for the weather, but you get used to it! The Healy pass is my favourite road , who needs the Alps. Love the music, looking forward to the next episode.

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks very much Will - the weather wasn’t brilliant but Ireland always is! The Healy Pass is one of our favourites - thanks for watching! 😀👍

  • @rytface
    @rytface หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Welcome back, pitty about the drop but we’ve all been there. One place I always suggest when your in and around Glengarriff is Priests leap it can be a bit technical especially in the wet,not for the faint hearted. Also when you come down off Healys Pass don’t turn right straight for Kenmare go left and follow the Road to Tuosist stunning 👍

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you - yes we’ve all dropped our bikes at some time 🙄 - thanks for the tips - we’ve heard about Priests Leap and must try it next time!😀👍

  • @martinhughes9769
    @martinhughes9769 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lovely relaxing video to watch 😊

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks very much Martin - we’re glad you enjoyed it! 😀👍

  • @johnwelbers4248
    @johnwelbers4248 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for sharing this trip. Tip over been there done that😯🫣🤓😎🏍️💨💨💨💨👍🏻🇨🇦🍻

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks John - I think we’ve all been there ( several times for me! 😂😀👍

  • @mattadkin4628
    @mattadkin4628 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for another amazing video. Every single rider has dropped a bike. Sue, if it makes you feel better I once dropped mine taking it off the centre stand!!! I wasn’t even moving let alone negotiating a steep hill in pouring rain !!! Xxx

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks very much Matt 🙏 we really appreciate it! You’re absolutely right - I’ve dropped my bikes countless times over the e! 😂😀👍

  • @stepheneldridge6998
    @stepheneldridge6998 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lovely video guys...the Healy Pass is a favourite of mine. If you ever go back the road from Rosslare that takes you on the Passage East ferry and along the Copper Coast is a joy. And the R600 you rode from Kinsale is fab..going all the way to Clonakilty. Stopping for a coffee in the garage doesn't sound great, but when the views from the picnic tables outside the garage in Glengariff are that good it's perfectly fine! I always stop there. Great stuff, look forward to seeing the next episode..hopefully the weather is kind! Cheers Steve

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks Steve, the pass is one of our favourites and the garage in Glengarriff was the only place we saw a coffee stop before the pass! We must try that Copper Coast next time! 😀👍

  • @MotoTourIreland
    @MotoTourIreland หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Welcome back to Ireland.

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you 🙏 it’s one of our favourite places to tour! 😀👍

  • @trevjones1315
    @trevjones1315 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've always enjoyed your choice of music on your videos but personally i would like to hear the bikes whilst you are riding and along. And the words oh bollocks springs to mind just before the second hotel. Glad you was able to rock up safely though. 👍

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you Trev - I like both the music and the bikes - I’ll see if we can get more of both next time! Dropping any bike is always a pain - but we’ve all been there at some time! 😀👍

  • @jvl4832
    @jvl4832 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thumbs up before I even watched it! 2 thumbs after I watched it! Another solid road video from Brian and Sue ( most lovable drowned rats!) . Loved the last sequence under ominous clouds( they were ominous all through) and the extraordinary landscape with Sue standing as Queen of the Hill in victory pose, , letting us know she put the dropped bike incident behind her. By the way, in 2021 I dropped my brand new 1250 GS a half hour after leaving the showroom…..talk about scratched egos 😅. Thank you for another wonderful presentation and braving the elements…greetings from Berlin ( couch potato modus), Jim

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks so much Jim 🙏 Sue and me always love your comments and the time you take to write them! I don’t think there’s anyone who’s never dropped their bike at least once! 😂😀👍

    • @jvl4832
      @jvl4832 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@midlifemotorcyclediaries Quite right Brian, I often dropped my bike during Enduro training, especially in deep sand. Nothing shameful about it, we all do it or wil do it….

  • @adyontour
    @adyontour หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video, nice to see the Healy Pass again I rode this last year.
    Sorry to see the bike go down Sue, but to be honest fully loaded the Tiger is a beast to handle, that normally you keep tame very nicely.😁👍

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you, Ady. It’s not the first time and I’m sure it won’t be the last but no matter how many times you tell yourself everyone drops their bike, you still beat yourself up 🤦‍♀️ 😆

    • @adyontour
      @adyontour หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@midlifemotorcyclediaries Yes I've dropped mine twice, and the first time I did it I was that annoyed and got myself so worked up I nearly vomited at the side of the road!!😡😤🤮🤣🤣

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😱😱😱😂

  • @MotoTourIreland
    @MotoTourIreland หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Next time you're in Glengarriff, weather permitting head out to Garnish Island. A very short boat ride. It is a micro climate with extensive gardens. Lovely place.
    You will also see the local seals on the rocks approaching the island. Well worth a visit.

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks very much for the tip, we would never have known 👍 that’s maybe one for another time! 😀👍

  • @brianfraser2495
    @brianfraser2495 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dropping the bike at a standstill is no big deal. Been there, done that. Consider any scratches as marks of experience and distinction.

  • @trevorthorn5011
    @trevorthorn5011 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    All ways good to watch you two glad you didn't hurt your self and the bikes ok looking forward to your next adventure

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks very much Trevor 🙏 it’s always a pain when you drop your bike 🙄 but we carry on! 😀👍

  • @niall5181
    @niall5181 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great vlog as usual…can I ask how is the 900 for vibes when touring..pegs and handle bars

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hi Niall, a number of people have asked me about vibration on the Tiger. I have to say, I haven’t experienced anything in the three and a half years since I bought it. It really is a great bike. Hope you’re not having problems with yours? ☺️👍

  • @stephenchapman8344
    @stephenchapman8344 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    👍

  • @kevinf-b5065
    @kevinf-b5065 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    By the way, no ones perfect, I pulled into a motorway services where some thoughtful diesel driver had spilled fuel in the parking area; yes put foot down and it slipped away from underneath me. One damaged pannier!

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks Kevin - we’ve all done it at least once ( in my case quite a few!)😂😀

  • @davidbirchall5124
    @davidbirchall5124 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi Sorry not video related, I am getting a Truimph Tiger 900 GT PRO soon, what ate your pros and cons of the bike. Thanks in advance

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hi David, first of all I genuinely think it was one of the best decisions I’ve made. Initially I wasn’t sure if I could justify the expense of changing from the 800 but it really is a very different bike; far less top heavy , great quick-shifter (dare I say, much better than the one on the BMW GSA 😉) lots of extras and the engine is fantastic. The GT Pro also has lots of ‘toys’ like heated seats and a great TFT screen. I have had a few people contact me to ask if I had experienced any vibration or unusual heat from the engine because they had but I haven’t. I’ve had the 900 for 3 1/2 years now and - because neither Bri nor I are at all technical and stuff tends to wear out after three years - have considered test riding the new 900. That really is the only bike I would consider trading mine in for. If you get one, you’ll love it! Wishing you miles of smiles ☺️👍

    • @davidbirchall5124
      @davidbirchall5124 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @midlifemotorcyclediaries Hi Thanks for your comprehensive reply , much appreciated, yes I'm.getting a 2024 model nxt week and can't wait...!!! Love watching your videos 📹 and Adventures and I hope.to.add some longer Adventures to my list on the Tiger..!! Thanks again

    • @davidbirchall5124
      @davidbirchall5124 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @midlifemotorcyclediaries sorry one last question, what tyres do you prefere on your Tiger....??? As I've heard a few mixed reviews on the Metzler Toureance ones that triumph sometimes fit. Oh and another question, what adventure / waterproof textile jacket would you recommend

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ⁠@@davidbirchall5124Hi David, I’ve had no issues with the Metzler tyres - as for textile jackets you can’t beat Rukka - expensive but worth it if you ride year round! 😀👍

    • @davidbirchall5124
      @davidbirchall5124 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@midlifemotorcyclediaries Thanks 😊 👍👍🏍🏍🏍

  • @vlx600
    @vlx600 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How do you rate irish roads compare and petrol prices compared to uk?

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think Petrol Prices were about the same but strangely not, diesel was cheaper! 🤷‍♂️ as for the roads, generally they were much better than the UK! 😀👍

  • @kevinf-b5065
    @kevinf-b5065 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sorry to mention it again but Sue really does need to cancel her indicators far sooner after turning a corner, even if they are self cancelling they are not doing it quickly enough to avoid confusion for other road users. It happened again in this video after a right turn you approached a left turn with the right indicator still flashing (close to where you waited for the man and his young girl to cross) As an advanced police driver this is meant as advice and a pointer towards some advanced training. Not all supposed aids are infallible. Cancel your indicators manually don't rely on electronics.

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi Kevin, you’re absolutely correct, of course. They are self cancelling but it can take a while. Ironically, I got into frequent trouble with my trainer for focusing on cancelling my indicator at the expense of other things and actually fell off my 125 in my very early training days because I was so keen to cancel my indicator that I dropped the clutch and pulled a very inelegant wheelie - not a good idea on the main A509 🤦‍♀️
      I am usually pretty good - I guess Bri just failed to edit my rate crimes from this one 😉Thank you for your very useful feedback - and for watching our adventures. 👍

    • @kevinf-b5065
      @kevinf-b5065 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@midlifemotorcyclediaries your trainer needs retraining

    • @brianfarrelly7151
      @brianfarrelly7151 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Welcome back to Ireland Brian and Sue - not only do I love your videos and music but your spend is good for our economy. You suffered terrible rain but that’s how our summer has been. The weather waited until September to improve so your timing wasn’t great. Looking forward to your next episode. Thanks for sharing your experience with us.

    • @midlifemotorcyclediaries
      @midlifemotorcyclediaries  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@brianfarrelly7151 thank you 🙏 the weather wasn’t on our side this time but we had enough dry time to have another amazing trip! 😀👍

    • @marcoluoma3770
      @marcoluoma3770 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Stop. Please just stop.