If oilers are looking for a defenseman, then they are looking to improve their defense. Eric Karlsson isn't that player. Nurse is a much better fit for what the oilers need than Karlsson is. And giving up that much for him!! No thank you
@@steveking8548 Nurse is a very good legitimate number 1 defenseman who, unfortunately is earning CALE MAKAR type money. Too bad Arizona is no more because Bowman could have traded Nurse to the Coyotes for a 1st rounder AND then have NURSE traded back to Edmonton with 2 MILLION RETAINED SALARY in exchange for the Coyotes First Rounder and two second round picks.
Nurse won’t leave Edmonton for Pittsburgh. These are my 2 favourite teams I’ve followed these 2 clubs my whole life. He would have back when he got drafted. But now Crosby is old, mcdavid is in his prime. Worst contract ever done by Ken holland
Nurse isn't going anywhere unless Oilers eat at least 4 mill of his contract. Oilers can't. And Nurse was willing to wave his no trade. He won't. So Nurse isn't going anywhere.
everyone's talking about why they cant trade nurse but they shouldn't go after Karlsson even if they could trade nurse. Karlsson is an offensive defenseman for a top powerplay. When he was in san Jose with Brent burns during the 2021 season they both recorded some of they're worst point total of their careers. combined they didn't even add up to a point per game. that was they're worst season with san Jose. they never put up normal amount of points that they used to get. when burns left Karlsson put up a career high in points and won the Norris. the oilers also want someone more defensively inclined that will give them more cap space then Karlssons contract.
That mock trade is the most brutal thought process I’ve ever witnessed, you took a fully baked lasagna and deconstructed and unfuckin cooked that bad boy, please FFS do not attempt to become a GM ever
If you know anything about Nurse, is that he's not going anywhere. Not only is his NMC solid, but he's great friends with McD and his wife is from Edmonton.
No one is taking Nurse at 9 million. You need to wait until the end of this season Broberg/Nurse looked great. Keep in mind Ceci was a 5/6/7D and Nurse has never had a partner that fit next to him. So see if Broberg can bring up his stock or maybe having a decent partner may make him worth it. It’s clear Nurse was really banged up in the playoffs.
Essentially this trade boils down to a 34 year old Erik Karlsson in the twilight of a Hockey Hall of Fame Career who essentially represented the ceiling of an "Evan Bouchard type player" in exchange for : 1) Darnell Nurse ( with a 9.25 million Caphit vs 10 million Caphit so + 750 K) in his prime 2) Two first round draft picks including Beau Akey with very Good Upside (Ceci drafted by Ottawa in 1st Round) 3) 2026 1st Rounder to reduce de coveted Entry Level Contracts needed to fit Stars under the Cap. ANALYSIS : A truly outstanding trade -- FOR PITTSBURG !!!! This trade might even take the Penguins beyond the first round in the 2025 Playoff !!! If I were Kyle Dubas, I would even offer to add 28 year old 2015 6th round Bokondji Inama to the other two ``easily replaceable support players`` if Edmonton could just add MATT SAVOIE in the mix just to make sure that the EDMONTON GM is not even dumber than I thought !
What I haven't seen talked about is what if Savoie is just the ace trade chip for this season's trade deadline? The Oilers have no 2025 first or second round pick to trade, and even if they did, they are projecting to be very late picks. Savoie on the other hand could be a very attractive trade chip at the deadline, so if they don't get that puck moving dman in the offseason, maybe they can get him at the deadline.
People keep forgetting nurse has a no trade clause , he ain't going anywhere. An option they should consider since he has speed and can handle the puck put him up on a wing, makes room for a better d man
Nurse at best is $3M defenseman now. Nurse used to be a top defenseman but he has regressed. His plus minus in the payoff was by far one of the worse. He likes play goal and poke check players rather than take the man. Lazy. Not sure who would take him at over $9M.
Cap and playoffs basically force us to bet Broberg works out. Smart bet IMO. Connor really likes Nurse, between that & his contract I wouldn't bother trying to move Darnell. Sign Leon ASAP, if there is a .000001% chance he hits FA trade him, he's far too valuable to risk losing for nothing.
If Nurse's contract only had 1-2 years left, I could see a bottom-tier team take him for assets. But 6 years of term essentially burdens ANY team's plans to such an extent that the Oilers would have to give up insane futures to move him. I don't see it happening. They found a way to shelter Nurse to get by anyway. I think that's the best bet.
it's a shame the oilers fumbled so hard with nurse's contract. he's a good defenceman but just nowhere near a 9-mil/year defenceman. i also don't think nurse will wave since he's close to mcd and drai. those 3 are gonna wanna stay together as long as possible while they can.
Why would the Oilers trade for an over-payed defensively irresponsible D man, with a cheaper over payed defensively irresponsible D man? Might as well retain some salary while we're at it 🤣🤣
Lol. Is this a goof? No oiler fan would want that trade. Nurse is stuck here this year at least anyway . NMC and buddies with the team and challenging for a cup. The best oiler fans can hope for is that Nurse gets better and starts playing at a level we need him to play at.
Karlsson is horrific at -99 plus minus. He is 35 years old, and his playoff results are nothing to write home about. Pittsburg has nothing to to trade for.
if anyone needs to make a big splash its toronto, they should go after that pylon nurse, they already have probably most the immobile defense core in the league lol trees and senior citizens between that and dodgy goaltending where theyre depending on woll staying healthy this could be the worst season toronto has had in a long time 😬 not to mention the horrible bottom 6
So you - Draisaitl but didn't pencil in what you get in return. Alright, now bundle Drai and Nurse and see what you get in return. How about Nico Hischier, Dougie Hamilton, plus prospects for Nurse, Draisaitl, and Ceci? You want to punish the eastern teams for not letting the Oilers win the cup. Put Hughes on Drais left side and let the games begin. I'm just having fun. I can't even fathom what a Draisaitl is worth on the open market.
@@jonah.donohue one is 35 the other is 33 and you gave them a lot of term and also you have 3 shoot first forwards on your top 6 without anyone to dish them that’s not good not to mention Brady skjei at 7 mill? Definitely overpayment
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Comment your thoughts! I could see the Pens and Sharks being two teams that are involved in Ceci/Nurse trade talks
If oilers are looking for a defenseman, then they are looking to improve their defense. Eric Karlsson isn't that player. Nurse is a much better fit for what the oilers need than Karlsson is. And giving up that much for him!! No thank you
nurse needs to be GONE!
@@steveking8548 Nurse is a very good legitimate number 1 defenseman who, unfortunately is earning CALE MAKAR type money. Too bad Arizona is no more because Bowman could have traded Nurse to the Coyotes for a 1st rounder AND then have NURSE traded back to Edmonton with 2 MILLION RETAINED SALARY in exchange for the Coyotes First Rounder and two second round picks.
Noone wants to take on Nurse's or Karlsson's contract.
And maybe that’s exactly why a deal could work in the same trade
@@HotTakeHockeyi don’t think nurse would wave tho, there’s no chance he’d want out he’s locked for the playoffs here
@@HotTakeHockey
Nurse at 100% retained,maybe a 3rd pair D or healthy scratch 😊
@@lowtierduster-7254media treated him poorly. I wouldn’t be surprised
Nurse won’t leave Edmonton for Pittsburgh. These are my 2 favourite teams I’ve followed these 2 clubs my whole life. He would have back when he got drafted. But now Crosby is old, mcdavid is in his prime. Worst contract ever done by Ken holland
Nurse isn't going anywhere unless Oilers eat at least 4 mill of his contract. Oilers can't. And Nurse was willing to wave his no trade. He won't. So Nurse isn't going anywhere.
everyone's talking about why they cant trade nurse but they shouldn't go after Karlsson even if they could trade nurse. Karlsson is an offensive defenseman for a top powerplay. When he was in san Jose with Brent burns during the 2021 season they both recorded some of they're worst point total of their careers. combined they didn't even add up to a point per game. that was they're worst season with san Jose. they never put up normal amount of points that they used to get. when burns left Karlsson put up a career high in points and won the Norris. the oilers also want someone more defensively inclined that will give them more cap space then Karlssons contract.
That mock trade is the most brutal thought process I’ve ever witnessed, you took a fully baked lasagna and deconstructed and unfuckin cooked that bad boy, please FFS do not attempt to become a GM ever
It’s not that deep. It’s just stating an idea that’s been tossed in the past
@@HotTakeHockeyidek how anyone could have that idea
If anyone thinks Darnell Nurse gets traded before Draisaitl and McDavid are both resigned knows nothing about this team and that locker room.
Ya they are all best buddies right
nurse needs to be GONE!
If you know anything about Nurse, is that he's not going anywhere. Not only is his NMC solid, but he's great friends with McD and his wife is from Edmonton.
McDavid will be gone
Who’s wife is from Edmonton? Nurse?
@@JMach82 no idea but it’s irrelevant
@@caperboy1169 Family and friends are irrelevant? Only thing irrelevant are your simple thoughts.
@@DerekInquisitor sure it’s irrelevant , neither players are from Edmonton. McDavid leaves Edmonton as soon as the season is over.
Picking up Karlsson in a trade is the last thing the Oilers d needs. No thanks.
No one is taking Nurse at 9 million. You need to wait until the end of this season Broberg/Nurse looked great. Keep in mind Ceci was a 5/6/7D and Nurse has never had a partner that fit next to him. So see if Broberg can bring up his stock or maybe having a decent partner may make him worth it. It’s clear Nurse was really banged up in the playoffs.
Essentially this trade boils down to a 34 year old Erik Karlsson in the twilight of a Hockey Hall of Fame Career who essentially represented the ceiling of an "Evan Bouchard type player" in exchange for :
1) Darnell Nurse ( with a 9.25 million Caphit vs 10 million Caphit so + 750 K) in his prime
2) Two first round draft picks including Beau Akey with very Good Upside (Ceci drafted by Ottawa in 1st Round)
3) 2026 1st Rounder to reduce de coveted Entry Level Contracts needed to fit Stars under the Cap.
ANALYSIS :
A truly outstanding trade -- FOR PITTSBURG !!!! This trade might even take the Penguins beyond the first round in the 2025 Playoff !!!
If I were Kyle Dubas, I would even offer to add 28 year old 2015 6th round Bokondji Inama to the other two ``easily replaceable support players`` if Edmonton could just add MATT SAVOIE in the mix just to make sure that the EDMONTON GM is not even dumber than I thought !
Nurse’s contract is so bad that it’s radioactive. No one will want to touch it unless you add MULTIPLE 1sts and prospects.
What I haven't seen talked about is what if Savoie is just the ace trade chip for this season's trade deadline? The Oilers have no 2025 first or second round pick to trade, and even if they did, they are projecting to be very late picks. Savoie on the other hand could be a very attractive trade chip at the deadline, so if they don't get that puck moving dman in the offseason, maybe they can get him at the deadline.
People keep forgetting nurse has a no trade clause , he ain't going anywhere. An option they should consider since he has speed and can handle the puck put him up on a wing, makes room for a better d man
That’s why I said a big IF he waives. They definitely need to look into moving Ceci
Ceci plus minus in playoffs is horrible. Kulak is the reason Oilers lost the 7th game backing up to Skinner letting in a goal
Kane and nurse will not go anywhere. And also ask yourself , why bufflo give up on SAVOIE. A AHL level player. #9 overall sounds good , but .......
Nurse at best is $3M defenseman now. Nurse used to be a top defenseman but he has regressed. His plus minus in the payoff was by far one of the worse. He likes play goal and poke check players rather than take the man. Lazy. Not sure who would take him at over $9M.
Cap and playoffs basically force us to bet Broberg works out. Smart bet IMO. Connor really likes Nurse, between that & his contract I wouldn't bother trying to move Darnell. Sign Leon ASAP, if there is a .000001% chance he hits FA trade him, he's far too valuable to risk losing for nothing.
I think Darnell Nurse is desperate to get off the leading Cup contender and onto a team where he's the youngest player.
If Nurse's contract only had 1-2 years left, I could see a bottom-tier team take him for assets. But 6 years of term essentially burdens ANY team's plans to such an extent that the Oilers would have to give up insane futures to move him. I don't see it happening. They found a way to shelter Nurse to get by anyway. I think that's the best bet.
Would love to see them try out Savoie in top 6 and use Arvidson for depth
RnH 97 Hyman
Skinner 29 Savoie
Kane Henrique Arvidson
Janmark Brown Holloway
Nurse used to be Mcdavifs roommate. He is going nowhere. We r stuck with this contract for years. If Mcdavid goes then I can see him getting traded.
Kane is cancer in the dressing room look up the teams that got rid of him because of this.
it's a shame the oilers fumbled so hard with nurse's contract. he's a good defenceman but just nowhere near a 9-mil/year defenceman.
i also don't think nurse will wave since he's close to mcd and drai. those 3 are gonna wanna stay together as long as possible while they can.
Fair enough. You’re probably right. Ceci trade at least
It ain't about FRIENDS its about Business !
It’s good to be an oilers fan.. JJ has saved the franchise
Chef Jackson cooked
How about trade Nurse for McNabb/Vegas?
Why would the Oilers trade for an over-payed defensively irresponsible D man, with a cheaper over payed defensively irresponsible D man? Might as well retain some salary while we're at it 🤣🤣
Savoie will never play for the Oilers it was just a salary dump. Many "top prospects" never end up playing in the league.
John have you heard anything on the world Juniors schedule for this year and when it might get released?
Nurse is not going anywhere - that's one untradable contract for sure!
THEN keep losing !!!!!!! he is a SLUG no Brains ..
why would we want karlsson or jones? i would rather keep nurse terrible trade
why would the Pens do this trade?
Nurse cannot be moved on to score own goals against the Pens. Burry him in Minny.
Eric Karlsson? Disastrous idea
Lol. Is this a goof? No oiler fan would want that trade. Nurse is stuck here this year at least anyway . NMC and buddies with the team and challenging for a cup. The best oiler fans can hope for is that Nurse gets better and starts playing at a level we need him to play at.
Karlsson is defintly not the anser for edmontons defence we alredy have bouchard on the pp so Karlsson is just not the anser defintly not lloolll
Id never trade for Karlsson. Its not what the Oilers need.
Nurse is not going anywhere
Nurse will be in Edmonton for 6 more…get used to it
Karlsson .... You're not that guy
Hell no we don’t need Karlson
Karlsson is horrific at -99 plus minus. He is 35 years old, and his playoff results are nothing to write home about. Pittsburg has nothing to to trade for.
We already have Bouchard we don't need Karlsson
Fair. That’s why I said there’s other options. San Jose and Anaheim come to mind
Totally agree, nurse needs to leave the oil.
If he will waive to a certain team, Oilers should explore it
@@HotTakeHockey I don't see how or why he would do that considering the run and the push to win again this next season.
if anyone needs to make a big splash its toronto, they should go after that pylon nurse, they already have probably most the immobile defense core in the league lol trees and senior citizens between that and dodgy goaltending where theyre depending on woll staying healthy this could be the worst season toronto has had in a long time 😬 not to mention the horrible bottom 6
Savoie has a bad shoulder, Thai’s why he was traded. Red flag
Bad enough to average 2 points per game in the WHL.
@@thewolfdoctor761 WHL is not the NHL. You actually believe they would make this trade if it wasn’t a concern?
@@caperboy1169 Yes. Adams is desperate to make the playoffs. This isn't the last dumb trade he will make.
@@thewolfdoctor761 Aleksi Heponiemi did the 2.00 pts per game and yet no signs of him in the NHL...
Oilers made out well?????
YA THINK 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔?!!!?????!
Sidney Crosby, #1 draft pick and a young high end player for Leon Draisaitl 😉
😂😂😂
Oilers would probably have to trade nurse to keep McDavid and Draisaitl otherwise they probably won't have enough cap space for both of them
He cant be traded because he has full NTC and also his contract is too big anyone to touch
@@juuhan4892 exactly why the Oilers won't be able to keep both McDavid and Draisaitl they probably traded for savioe to be the replacement
So you - Draisaitl but didn't pencil in what you get in return. Alright, now bundle Drai and Nurse and see what you get in return. How about Nico Hischier, Dougie Hamilton, plus prospects for Nurse, Draisaitl, and Ceci? You want to punish the eastern teams for not letting the Oilers win the cup. Put Hughes on Drais left side and let the games begin. I'm just having fun. I can't even fathom what a Draisaitl is worth on the open market.
The Preds were the winners.
No they weren’t they got better but overpaid for all of them
@@JacksonSheppard-mq9gg2 40 goal scorers is not a overpayment
@@jonah.donohue one is 35 the other is 33 and you gave them a lot of term and also you have 3 shoot first forwards on your top 6 without anyone to dish them that’s not good not to mention Brady skjei at 7 mill? Definitely overpayment
No one's taking Nurses contract lol. Save your breaths. #clickbait
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Crazy trade proposal. Karlsson has negative value at this point
I think outside of Edmonton, people realize that Nurse’s contract is worse at this moment. Karlsson only has 3 years left on his deal.