i wish they gave us a psp version like ff1\2\4 for this game, it's one of my favourite final fantasy and i really dig that look, same goes for 6 obviously
I wish 3, 5, & 6 had PSP versions that were made by the same teams or made the exact same as the 1, 2, & 4 versions and that later ports don’t use a new look that’s seen in the steam/iOS Ports and the Pixel Remasters. Use that same PSP look plus add some actual arranged music, no half ass synth sounding versions or part synth part arranged crap, and then release them on steam and iOS with all previous added extras from other versions I don’t believe you can go wrong but that’s my take.
@@AlfonsoECruz YESSS!!! I totally wish we had Final Fantasy 1-6 in the PSP style instead of these "Pixel Remasters" they sand bagged us with!! It really is a damn shame that 3, 5 & 6 didn't happen, and certainly a missed opportunity!!
That would have been the best version ever. Which makes me very angry about the pixel "remastered ". You loose when compared to the psp versions on the graphs and no bonus dungeons
Love your port comparison videos, amazing how much actually can be different opposed to the more obvious surface level via graphics. It still puzzles me why the pixel remasters aren't based on their GBA equivalents which for each game featured on said console have the most content. I like the orchestrated music though...SE makes the most bizarre decisions with ports...
What I've heard is that it's how the devs decided to balance the "nostalgia versus slick modern feel"-factor that always seems to plague gsmes getting remasters, the old "how do we balance making the games play well for bith an older audience used to and even attached to it's existing quirks, and a newer audience with little tolerance for it". From what I've heard, their decision was to essentially muck around with difficulty and battle balance, but strive to have the content be as faithful to the "original game experience" as possible, minus wonky old translations. So they won't have any "story content" so to speak, like extra dungeons and sidequests, that wasn't in the originals. Original "story" but new "gameplay", is what I guess they were going for.
Because for the most part, the extra GBA content and changes sucked for most of these games, and in some cases, fundamentally altered the original design (E.g. replacing Spell Charges with MP in FF1).
There is a notable mod for the Steam version of the Mobile Remake that gives the character sprites an aesthetic similar to the PSP versions of 1, 2, and 4. Alongside UI overhaul modding, this makes it the best way to play in my book.
The steam port is not bad but the music restarts after battle. That's a complete deal breaker for me and I uninstalled immediately after I discovered that.
@@alanlee67 I think the intro in FF5 Pixel Remaster was lazy, they just have Square Enix logo, no credits. But in general i am just done with Square Enix. Phantasy Star ftw!
@@mcihay246 well lets see how you like the whole FF6 intro to Narshe.. with only Square enix logo lol. No i say it was a laughing numbnuts port decisison, Thats square alright. Its weird how in Chrono Trigger port on PC, that one is fine there with the intro. Its like Square on purpose does this to piss consumers off
I've been waiting for this as FFV is where my journey with series started. Huge thanks for covering the topic, Austin! One wish is so there will be optional mod/dlc with additional content from GBA which I've played a lot of!
Really impressive work Austin. You’ve been at this for months and all your effort is very much appreciated. Thank you and looking forward to your other coming content.
As a note: the first mobile version (puffed chest pillowshaded edition) had controller support on android when it released and still does. Additional note: canonneers can do a glitch where they skip the final phase of final boss.
Addendum info (12.12.22) The PR versions had various bug fixes and stability improvements. If you still experience stutter, consult fan solutions in the description. The weapon “Brave Blade” has been altered so that attack power lost from escaping battle is recovered one point at a time by winning a set number of further battles. In addition, it will not exceed its original attack power. The weapon “Chicken Knife” has been altered so that its “Scram” effect is not activated when using “Mug” or “Counter”. Weapons that change the effect of “Attack” have been altered so their effects are not activated when using “Counter”. The Chicken Knife’s “Scram” effect is included in this change. Critical hits now cause a screen flash, repeating attacks are now faster, the mini map now stays active when you transition screens, the cursor defaults to yes at inns, seams of the area between water & ground tiles were tweaked, and when fleeing the transition from battle to field is faster
I’ll go with the Old Version on mobile, PS Vita and Steam. The graphics are terrible, yes, but the music is much better, which is more important to me than the graphics. And this version has additional balancing tweaks and all the bonus content from the GBA.
As someone who prefers the original pixel art with the orchestral music, I stand by the Super Famicom ROM with the translation patch applied played on an MSU-1 capable emulation device.
Are there MSU-1 patches yet for the SFC games using the Pixel Remaster soundtracks? Ever since these PR versions started coming out that's been my biggest wish.
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES! I'm so happy to see this video, FFV is my favorite Final Fantasy ever and I was waiting for this comparison for a long time! Thank you so much Austin xD Personally, my favorite FFV experience is the GBA version with the Sound Restoration hack, and I also love the Custom Classes hack as well, but that hack is more for veterans of the game.
easily the most underrated FF game. This has recently become my favorite game. Beautifully simple, but also complex game. Incredible battle system that rewards you the more you grind and play.
The iOS version’s dash does work properly and you can use a controller with it. I really like it because it keeps all of the content, and also the new art of the monsters looks cool too.
4:16 this "bug is about exit. Exit returns you to the last place you were on the world map. When you enter guido's cave, you last world map placement is outside his cave. Everything after entering is part of the cutscene, including the segment where guido walks to the library.
FF5 was in the greatest need for a remaster, so I'm really happy with how this pixel remaster turned out. It's a shame that none of the pixel remasters have any of the GBA bonus content, but I'd still say that the pixel remaster, at least for this game, is easily the best version of FF5.
Well 5 was in great need for a remaster but I'd say 3 was greatest need. Still this is a good version of 5 now that they managed to fix some of the bugs (granted the mp on job change glitch made the game harder actually). I find it neat the pixel version is overall the hardest of 5 as well (slap max speed active and bosses and most enemies including bosses in mook clothes will move 2-3x before you can get your 1st turn most of the time). 5 was already not a starter FF (not saying it was hard but it certainly had a tooth or 2) so this was pretty nice challenge wise.
@@ClintonKE FFIII had a full remake on DS that added a lot of content. I played the mobile version of FFV until about halfway through, but I am bad about dropping games and not picking them back up. It wasn’t a terrible game, but the mobile graphics are ugly.
@@mydogblaze FF3 3D wasn't a good rep for what FF3 was IMO. That version of the game pretty much just ruined a perfectly fine already done painting by spilling paint on it while trying to fix errors that weren't really there in the 1st place in the process. The onion kids didn't need to be given one line backstories that pretty much just made actual plot holes for example. End game jobs didn't need to be nerfed as bad as they did.
I originally beat the PSX version way back in the day, and had multiple failed attempts to get another run that seemed to end with whatever data medium my save was stored upon dying an apparently cursed death. When I finally played the game again, it was the Pixel Remaster. There are some FF games you replay got their mechanics, and wow, this is well worth it.
@Stephen O'Brien That's a logical fallacy, more =/= better. If the quality of the new content is poor and the visuals and music are both worse, then it's not better.
I'm really enjoying the Pixel Remaster with some mods (mostly sprite replacements). I've had problems with corrupted saves in the GBA version, has happened to me with both fake and original carts, so I assume is some kind of bug, I think FFVI also had save corruption bugs.
The good thing about the GBA version is that there's a mod that basically grants you the freelancer ability to retain most passives from mastered classes. Meaning you can be a Warrior with both Learning, Counter and Shirahadori without putting them in place of Two-handed. All classes are also rearranged and shop items have been reshuffled to compromise for the class rearrange along with other bugfixes.
@@listrim2036 Hey, I'm super late here, but did you find your answer? If not, Custom Classes for the GBA version reworks how the Job/Class system works, allowing you more customization options, and being able to carry over more Passive Abilities between the Jobs/Classes. It doesn't change the story itself, but it does offer the GBA-exclusive Jobs much sooner in the story than in vanilla. Hopefully this answers your question, but if not, feel free to ask! Happy Hunting!
Your port comparisons have are a damn inspiration. I cover a lot of ports too, and I used to think I went pretty in depth, but holy hell you make me look lazy. HA! Keep up the awesome work man!
I have the mobile version on both Android and iOS. It indeed does have controller support. I forgot when, but I do remember reading an update for that port of V and VI prior to de-listing that they did add in USB/BT controller support in Android, and BT/MFi controller support for iPhone/iPad.
I have to say. seems like the Pixel Remaster is probably the way to go this time around! Bugs fixes, presentation enhanced, better translation and that OST sounds magnificent. Great to see! Hopefully it will come to Switch soon...
@@Jordan3DS why, because they decided not to downgrade it to the PSP style (I’m talking FFV and FFVI, the PSP version of FFIV is the best looking version of that game)?
The PSP look for Final Fantasy 1,2&4 is universally liked and for some reason SE didn't understand this and adopt it to 3,5&6. Maybe one day we'll get a FF 1-6 collection with the PSP sprites.
@@ltb1345 Eww yuck! That chibi look is just awful. Be that as it may though, the PSP look is the most universally liked and that's the reason the should adopt it for all their pixel games.
In a way it comes off as arrogance, as if they think the remastered soundtrack obsoletes the original one. Delisting the previous Steam version only exacerbates the issue. Personally I don't like orchestral music so between that and the missing GBA content, I'll stick with the older Steam release.
@@jonespianist3189 It's true many people hate those versions of V and VI, but that's not why they're making the PR versions. But many people hate the old steam version of VIII and yet they have left that up even with the Remaster available.
I decided to go with the GBA Script Port rom patch for the original SFC version. It fully translates the entire game, includes most of the major bug fixes and I also added a patch to add dash like the PSX version. I'm using it on my SNES Classic to play it. Almost went with the GBA version, but this is a better experience. The Pixel Remaster just feels "off" to me for some reason.. might be the font or something.
The pixel remaster alters dialogue for the sake of not offending people, as well as unbugging the quicksave and changing how some jobs and some abilities work. This makes the game harder for sure, but it also eliminates certain strategies from being doable for playing the game however you like
I'm playing the gba version with the original sound mod and it's the best. The only thing that sucks for me is that i'm playing on my ds, and the gbarunner2 crashes the game when you use the Monk command Kick. Besides that, perfect.
I wonder why this game didn't get a 3D remake like 3 and 4 did. This is my favourite Final Fantasy game and it would be nice to see it have a 3D remake.
There’s been concept artwork for the battle sprites of the classes. If a high-res remaster were to make the battle sprites look like that concept artwork, then a 4K remaster would be viable. The thing is that the previous version had blurry sprites.
Would you be willing to make a playlist SPECIFICALLY for Final Fantasy, in order of game, not upload date? I would really like to share it with a friend if you did ever make a playlist like this. Thank you!
One huge note for those interested in the iPhone/iPad version - there is no controller support. It’s mindboggling considering that years-old game released from Square include it (like Chrono Trigger), and it has prevented me from buying it
This is the reason I haven’t picked up the pixel remasters for my phone, Chrono Trigger works great with a controller so I’m not sure why they omit this on iOS
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Thank you for doing these increíble and well made videos. I can tell you put a lot of energy into them. I hope they bring these Pixel Remasters to Switch!
Romeo's ballad go brr lol. I wonder how the bard can be so good in ff3 (party buffs at high job levels that work end game) and ff5 yet ff4 Edward is terrible 🤣. I also like Mr. Clio psychic parody. Just wish exdeath wanted to make turtle soup out of Ghido lol.
@@sebastiankulche you don't have to grind in ff5. You chose to stay at the wrong job, like not starting red mage in Phoenix tower to get 500 of the 999 ABP needed for dualcast. FF3 is similar (wrong class at wrong time and not exploiting defend 4 times to job level up every battle with 5 actions until comfy will make ya rage quit) but some help makes it a lotta fun (I said bards help in both games, did you use Romeo's ballad to cheese?). The thief got an overhaul do you can see hidden passages, Rob Gilgamesh of useful genji gear, and combine with monk's Barehanded to do good damage and go first. I could break down a setup if you'd like to go, endgame you have to master and transfer with freelancer (physical jobs usually) and Mime (3 commands, dualcast with multiple magic though blue magic won't work with dualcast). I hated the mystic knight for wasting a turn for spellblade as I'd heal my enemy with bad luck (and couldn't equip stronger knight swords I had), or hit with confuse so I wasted it, but some use it to cast break and guarantee killing enemies, and I think this includes one part of the last boss, neo exdeath. It's just a puzzle solving charm that can't be had in an overrated game like Chrono trigger where you actually use 2 people to heal your party, where the chemist mix lets you fully heal hp and mp (Phoenix down+potion best revival ever for all 3) or cheese bosses.
@@MrVariant "You dont have to grind in ffv". Sorry, but you are wrong. In fact, is one of the grindiest games i ever played. Bosses like Atomos, Neo Exdeath or Omega, if you dont do broken strategies they are very hard to beat normally. Obtaining job exp is so tedious and fuc.... long, until you fight the brown circles in the rift (i dont remember their name, maybe movers, i dont care). Even then you could waste hours for max only one class since movers were rare. Dont even talk about level up, you need like 30000 or 40000 exp points to level up on level 40 and onwards and the enemies that i find that gives me the most exp gives me like 1000-1500. And since in FFV the battles takes so long (something shamefully also happens in a lot of other games in the series starting with IV), you can take also some hours to level up one character (yeah, i do the math). At least FF3 balance much more the jobs and level up them doesnt make too much difference. In FFV i cannot use the jobs that i want since most of them are useless and others are only worth just for unlocking one skill (in FF1 a red mage was so useful, while in FFV why you would use it after unlocking dualcast?). The skills are also poorly balanced, i dont know why but FFV started the tendency in the series of making rapid fire and dualcast dominant strategy. One of the most unbalanced skills i ever seen in an RPG ever.
Those mobile ports of III/V/VI aren't as bad as many make them to be. Being locked to just Mobile/Steam platforms is what's most annoying about them and make them hate-able is more of an actual fact.
Great video as always - I wish you'd included some of the data from the Four Job Fiesta community but perhaps that can be one of your shorter videos ;)
This is the 1st that I've ever played, I played this when I was 4 yrs old, this is the game that gotten me interested in games, still up to this day I have a zip file of it for my GBA emulator if ever I want to play it again...
A difference I haven’t seen on the internet: the Break and Death spellblade / X-attack combos cannot target a killed enemy again in Famicom version. In GBA version it has a chance of hitting the same target more than once. A minor nerf.
I'm very saddened that they removed the bonus content from the GBA versions in all of these games. I really wish they didn't do that, this would have been a day one buy. As it stands, I can play the GBA version on Retroarch mGBA core with xBRZ shaders to Clean up the visuals and get the most out of fixes with romhack patches including sound and color/frame rate fixes. These pixel remasters are a real missed opportunity.
Sergeant grimm agreed. I still prefer the Famicom version with the j2e translation. The official translation is weird, stupid, and "americanized." Also, the pixel remaster soundtrack for ffv is very hit or miss. Some tracks like the Moore forest track are bangers but the main battle theme oddly sounds worse than the original to me and that's quite annoying because you hear it a lot.
@@alanlee67 Spot on! I noticed while listening to the new soundtrack, some of the songs just don't capture the original vibe and intensity, especially Ex Deaths battle them (Decisive Battle). The heavy drum pounding and strong bass were the highlights that drove the song and made it more menacing and its dumbed down significantly. Aspects of it sound good and it sounds better than most of the other arranged versions I've heard but not nearly as good as the original.
@@Jordan3DS I have literally never seen a positive opinion on any of the content added in the gba versions of any of the games before it became a reason to complain about the pixel remasters. The new jobs 5 got in it's gba version ARE cool though, but they come too late in the game to be useful iirc. Would have been cool if they had added those in and gave them to you earlier.
One change I noticed in the Pixel remaster was that Aim and Mug no longer prevent the Chicken Knife from activating, unsure if that's in the mobile version too
If that is true then it is definitely unique to the Pixel Remaster. Other abilities to check would be !Focus, !Rapidfire, and !Jump. Also Ninja with Dual Lance in the first hand, but that didn't work in the Mobile version
I think in this instance, what you get depends on preference. I have the ps1 version so I might not get the pixel remaster. But if you don't have the snes, ps1, or gba version, you can't go wrong with the pixel remaster. You can go wrong with the previous ugly steam and mobile release though. I'm glad that's been delisted.
Best versions: Most "Pure": Super Famicom Most Content: GBA/Steam Mobile Best Compromise?: Pixel Remaster This and VI are perhaps the only pixel remaster i would consider recommending to someone. While the GBA version does have the most content, the pixel remaster arguably is otherwise actually a compromise that doesn't sacrifice as much as it offers, unlike the previous 4 games.
👑You put so much hard work and research in these videos. If anybody ever asks me what version of Final Fantasy they should play, I'll point them to your channel every time. I hope you had a great holiday and thank you for the video!
This sounds like a game that isn't going to be completely bug free no matter what you play because for some reason in the later ports the newest issue is max mp being way lower than what it actually should be.
Jobs system is the best. Like IRL, you can learn and use different skills on different level. That's why FFV and 12 is best than the rest of the series.
I just wish they remade the classic Final Fantasy's in the style of Octopath Traveler. That art style would work perfectly with Final Fantasy's 5 and 6
Just beat the pixel remaster a couple weeks ago. Since i dont have time to play with all the jobs. I was stoked when i got the Mime job. Made NeoExdeath a joke. :)
I've loved watching your final fantasy comparison series these past few years, but seeing as you only have FFVI left to do, are you considering making videos comparing the different versions of the Dragon Quest games next?
14:53 - A bit of correction on this one. The glitch only affected the SNES version of the game(And probably PSX since the two were very similar). The GBA version fixed the glitch, which remained fixed for future versions.
ITS BOTH the Save glitch DID effect the PS1 version of the game but ONLY if you played it on the PS1/PS2/PSP versions of the game that save glitch isn't on the PSN version via the PS3/Vita at all though.
@@veghesther3204 ? I'm talking about the Berserker Chicken Knife interaction. Not sure how a save glitch popped up when it had nothing to do with it at that moment.
Well the PS1 version IS full of glitches INCLUDING the CAN'T See the screen when you attempt TO save the game itself which effects the PS1 version of the game if its played on the PS1/PS2/PSP. I never used Berserker AFTER mastering it IN world 1.
To me, this was the test into seeing whether or not the pixel remaster or the ps1 version were definite buys in gaining a copy. What I usually look for in the first six final fantasy games IS the sound/music quality from the SNES. I own the ps1 version and the sound quality disappoints me. Squaresoft knew how to utilize the sound chip within the SNES/Super Famicom to the best of its abilities (i.e. Reina's theme in the very beginning was the reason that got me hooked). I am actually quite sad that these collections do not include their original soundtracks like other remaster releases Spyro the Dragon Reignite Trilogy.
I’m praying they bring these pixel remasters to consoles. Even if it’s just the Switch. You can now play VII through X on PS4/5 and Switch and I through VI deserve the same love and attention.
They should have done that from the start as well as putting them on the PS4/PS4 despite that I only own a PS4 BUT they should have had the GBA/PSP extra content in them IF they game PS4 PS5 Switch ports. As for the Save Screen Glitch of FF5 its not in the Pixel version since its a port of the SNES game.
They will be putting them on consoles eventually. It's typical manipulation tactics when they say things like "if there is demand" beause they know the demand is there. They want to keep a long stretch so you'll eventually cave in, buy the PC/mobile versions and then they'll announce the console versions.
Sounds like it's a close race between the Steam and PR versions for me. Having a really hard time deciding, as while the extra content of the Steam version sounds good, the PR version has great music and a more polished gameplay.
Okay so I wasn't crazy for feeling like the mobile/steam version was super lit. All the GBA bonuses, original music without the need to patch, GOOD fixes, battle speed... oh also I'm sure someone has brought this up, but the mobile version absolutely does have controller support. Damn shame it was delisted because I like it more than my sound patched GBA version.
Thanks for the shout out! It was so frustrating not being able to find a complete list of accurate changes for the Mobile version. Thanks to Four Job Fiesta community for helping me compile that list. A quick correction, my pronouns are they/them/their. Huge fan of the channel, and I'm glad that I was able to help out in my own small way!
I hate how muddy the tile sets are in the pixel remaster for this game. I guess they weren’t sure how to remaster it but making the maps look like jpeg wasn’t the way…
Yeah, the mobile version is nice. Could've just used those. The sprites are good, too. Don't know why everyone is so annoyed by them. However, you won't find me trying to play all of any Final Fantasy title on a phone screen.
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i wish they gave us a psp version like ff1\2\4 for this game, it's one of my favourite final fantasy and i really dig that look, same goes for 6 obviously
I wish 3, 5, & 6 had PSP versions that were made by the same teams or made the exact same as the 1, 2, & 4 versions and that later ports don’t use a new look that’s seen in the steam/iOS Ports and the Pixel Remasters. Use that same PSP look plus add some actual arranged music, no half ass synth sounding versions or part synth part arranged crap, and then release them on steam and iOS with all previous added extras from other versions I don’t believe you can go wrong but that’s my take.
@@AlfonsoECruz YESSS!!! I totally wish we had Final Fantasy 1-6 in the PSP style instead of these "Pixel Remasters" they sand bagged us with!! It really is a damn shame that 3, 5 & 6 didn't happen, and certainly a missed opportunity!!
@@robertharper3114 Definitely, I agree.
That would have been the best version ever. Which makes me very angry about the pixel "remastered ". You loose when compared to the psp versions on the graphs and no bonus dungeons
The DS version is the best for 4, but yeah.
Love your port comparison videos, amazing how much actually can be different opposed to the more obvious surface level via graphics. It still puzzles me why the pixel remasters aren't based on their GBA equivalents which for each game featured on said console have the most content. I like the orchestrated music though...SE makes the most bizarre decisions with ports...
What I've heard is that it's how the devs decided to balance the "nostalgia versus slick modern feel"-factor that always seems to plague gsmes getting remasters, the old "how do we balance making the games play well for bith an older audience used to and even attached to it's existing quirks, and a newer audience with little tolerance for it".
From what I've heard, their decision was to essentially muck around with difficulty and battle balance, but strive to have the content be as faithful to the "original game experience" as possible, minus wonky old translations. So they won't have any "story content" so to speak, like extra dungeons and sidequests, that wasn't in the originals. Original "story" but new "gameplay", is what I guess they were going for.
I remember capcom doing this for a street fighter collection, im assuming they didnt add the extea content due to effort
Because for the most part, the extra GBA content and changes sucked for most of these games, and in some cases, fundamentally altered the original design (E.g. replacing Spell Charges with MP in FF1).
@@northwindkey It was the PSP version not the GBA version of FFI that replaced spell charging with MP.
Sounds like pixel remaster is a legitimate contender for this one. I just wish it had the extra jobs and content from the gba
There's always mods, if a community arises
@@mausebas Nooice!
@@mausebas doesnt seem possible to add the GBA content sadly
Still bummed that the pixel remasters are inferior to the psp versions. At least the new ost is pretty good all around.
Since its missing the bonus contend, its not the best version by default
There is a notable mod for the Steam version of the Mobile Remake that gives the character sprites an aesthetic similar to the PSP versions of 1, 2, and 4. Alongside UI overhaul modding, this makes it the best way to play in my book.
!!! What's it called!?
@@lowhp_comic I assume it's the one called PSP-Style Battle Sprites. It's the only one of note I can think of.
It's still ugly as fuck, sorry. The mobile remake is cursed.
I'm glad you were so objective with this. It's hard to find someone giving an earnest comparison of the ports as a fan of the Steam port.
I liked his review of FF3 too. I agree, objective and too the point
The steam port is not bad but the music restarts after battle. That's a complete deal breaker for me and I uninstalled immediately after I discovered that.
@@alanlee67 I think the intro in FF5 Pixel Remaster was lazy, they just have Square Enix logo, no credits. But in general i am just done with Square Enix. Phantasy Star ftw!
@@kejiri3593 Out of the entire game... That's the one thing that ruins it for you?
How... Petty.
@@mcihay246 well lets see how you like the whole FF6 intro to Narshe.. with only Square enix logo lol. No i say it was a laughing numbnuts port decisison, Thats square alright. Its weird how in Chrono Trigger port on PC, that one is fine there with the intro. Its like Square on purpose does this to piss consumers off
I've been waiting for this as FFV is where my journey with series started. Huge thanks for covering the topic, Austin!
One wish is so there will be optional mod/dlc with additional content from GBA which I've played a lot of!
Honestly, I'll always prefer FF5 Advance + sound restoration patch. I like the extra content, and that's the only version with Italian text
That's ultra lazy of them. Just wow.
The Pixel Remasters come in 12 languages, including Italian. Check them out. The remastered music alone is worth it.
We've got a lovely PSP-style sprite mod for the Old Version, which also has all the content and translations that GBA had
@@MaximumAddition point us in the right direction?
@@Grayald Well, I commented but it doesn't seem to have gone through? Look up VG Research & Modding
Really impressive work Austin. You’ve been at this for months and all your effort is very much appreciated. Thank you and looking forward to your other coming content.
As a note: the first mobile version (puffed chest pillowshaded edition) had controller support on android when it released and still does. Additional note: canonneers can do a glitch where they skip the final phase of final boss.
These videos are extremely helpful for someone like me who is getting into classic FF and wants to know the best versions to run through.
I love the GBA version, it has a lot of bass 🔥🔥🔥
Addendum info (12.12.22)
The PR versions had various bug fixes and stability improvements. If you still experience stutter, consult fan solutions in the description.
The weapon “Brave Blade” has been altered so that attack power lost from escaping battle is recovered one point at a time by winning a set number of further battles. In addition, it will not exceed its original attack power.
The weapon “Chicken Knife” has been altered so that its “Scram” effect is not activated when using “Mug” or “Counter”.
Weapons that change the effect of “Attack” have been altered so their effects are not activated when using “Counter”. The Chicken Knife’s “Scram” effect is included in this change.
Critical hits now cause a screen flash, repeating attacks are now faster, the mini map now stays active when you transition screens, the cursor defaults to yes at inns, seams of the area between water & ground tiles were tweaked, and when fleeing the transition from battle to field is faster
Gba version all the way imo
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I think best is GBA with the music patch.
This goes for any of the classic Final Fantasy games. Not to mention that it’s the most accessible, even with emulation.
I hate the original ost of this game. The GBA's much MUCH better!
I’ll go with the Old Version on mobile, PS Vita and Steam.
The graphics are terrible, yes, but the music is much better, which is more important to me than the graphics.
And this version has additional balancing tweaks and all the bonus content from the GBA.
As someone who prefers the original pixel art with the orchestral music, I stand by the Super Famicom ROM with the translation patch applied played on an MSU-1 capable emulation device.
Are there MSU-1 patches yet for the SFC games using the Pixel Remaster soundtracks? Ever since these PR versions started coming out that's been my biggest wish.
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES! I'm so happy to see this video, FFV is my favorite Final Fantasy ever and I was waiting for this comparison for a long time! Thank you so much Austin xD
Personally, my favorite FFV experience is the GBA version with the Sound Restoration hack, and I also love the Custom Classes hack as well, but that hack is more for veterans of the game.
easily the most underrated FF game. This has recently become my favorite game. Beautifully simple, but also complex game. Incredible battle system that rewards you the more you grind and play.
The iOS version’s dash does work properly and you can use a controller with it. I really like it because it keeps all of the content, and also the new art of the monsters looks cool too.
If only the Pixel remaster had the PS1 CG cutscenes, that's all it needed.
Better yet.. FFV and FFVI should have had PSP remasters
4:16 this "bug is about exit. Exit returns you to the last place you were on the world map. When you enter guido's cave, you last world map placement is outside his cave. Everything after entering is part of the cutscene, including the segment where guido walks to the library.
FF5 was in the greatest need for a remaster, so I'm really happy with how this pixel remaster turned out. It's a shame that none of the pixel remasters have any of the GBA bonus content, but I'd still say that the pixel remaster, at least for this game, is easily the best version of FF5.
Well 5 was in great need for a remaster but I'd say 3 was greatest need. Still this is a good version of 5 now that they managed to fix some of the bugs (granted the mp on job change glitch made the game harder actually).
I find it neat the pixel version is overall the hardest of 5 as well (slap max speed active and bosses and most enemies including bosses in mook clothes will move 2-3x before you can get your 1st turn most of the time). 5 was already not a starter FF (not saying it was hard but it certainly had a tooth or 2) so this was pretty nice challenge wise.
@@ClintonKE FFIII had a full remake on DS that added a lot of content.
I played the mobile version of FFV until about halfway through, but I am bad about dropping games and not picking them back up. It wasn’t a terrible game, but the mobile graphics are ugly.
@@mydogblaze FF3 3D wasn't a good rep for what FF3 was IMO. That version of the game pretty much just ruined a perfectly fine already done painting by spilling paint on it while trying to fix errors that weren't really there in the 1st place in the process.
The onion kids didn't need to be given one line backstories that pretty much just made actual plot holes for example. End game jobs didn't need to be nerfed as bad as they did.
This video is fantastic! Gonna have to binge the earlier ones now.
I originally beat the PSX version way back in the day, and had multiple failed attempts to get another run that seemed to end with whatever data medium my save was stored upon dying an apparently cursed death.
When I finally played the game again, it was the Pixel Remaster. There are some FF games you replay got their mechanics, and wow, this is well worth it.
Yes! I've actually been waiting for this video. I'm playing through 4 right now so I wanted to decide which version of 5 to play next.
Just play the original, it's still the best looking and sounding version
@Stephen O'Brien That's a logical fallacy, more =/= better. If the quality of the new content is poor and the visuals and music are both worse, then it's not better.
These videos are incredible! Thanks for the hard work!
I’m impressed that the Pixel Remaster is finally the optimal experience gameplay wise (except for the GBA bonus content),
actually, the modded steam version(orchestra OST/PSP sprite/PSP UI/Matching color portrait) is still superior (except in sound)
@@chevalierkraken I was referring to vanilla experiences. Of course modded experiences are gonna be superior 99% of the time.
Except no post-game dungeon
What about being able to use rapid fire chicken knife?
Thank you so, so much. Your work and the work of others on this has been INVALUABLE. Get some rest you champion
You are pumping out these videos faster than I can finish the games they are based on!
I'm really enjoying the Pixel Remaster with some mods (mostly sprite replacements). I've had problems with corrupted saves in the GBA version, has happened to me with both fake and original carts, so I assume is some kind of bug, I think FFVI also had save corruption bugs.
this is definitely my favorite from the series. i love all the characters too much :]
Me too my first entry into the series as a kid!
The good thing about the GBA version is that there's a mod that basically grants you the freelancer ability to retain most passives from mastered classes. Meaning you can be a Warrior with both Learning, Counter and Shirahadori without putting them in place of Two-handed. All classes are also rearranged and shop items have been reshuffled to compromise for the class rearrange along with other bugfixes.
How is the mod called? I'm interested
@@listrim2036 Think it’s called Custom Classes.
@@lottery5795 thanks!! This is my first time playing final fantasy V should I play this mod instead of the OG? Does it change the story? Or something
@@listrim2036 Hey, I'm super late here, but did you find your answer?
If not, Custom Classes for the GBA version reworks how the Job/Class system works, allowing you more customization options, and being able to carry over more Passive Abilities between the Jobs/Classes. It doesn't change the story itself, but it does offer the GBA-exclusive Jobs much sooner in the story than in vanilla.
Hopefully this answers your question, but if not, feel free to ask!
Happy Hunting!
Been thinking about trying the Pixel Remaster but I don't like how some battle effects stick out against the otherwise pixel graphics.
Thank you so much for making these!
Did you feel they messed with the difficulty like the other ones?
@@phillipmitchell2254 like how?
Your port comparisons have are a damn inspiration. I cover a lot of ports too, and I used to think I went pretty in depth, but holy hell you make me look lazy. HA! Keep up the awesome work man!
Avalanche to be fair, these old final fantasies are riddled with bugs and oddities.
Thanks for the info, been wanting to get into the older FF games but been trying to find the right versions to start with.
My favorite 2D Final Fantasy
I have the mobile version on both Android and iOS. It indeed does have controller support. I forgot when, but I do remember reading an update for that port of V and VI prior to de-listing that they did add in USB/BT controller support in Android, and BT/MFi controller support for iPhone/iPad.
Yeah, I played the old Android version on an NVIDIA Shield Portable years ago with full controller support.
I have to say. seems like the Pixel Remaster is probably the way to go this time around! Bugs fixes, presentation enhanced, better translation and that OST sounds magnificent. Great to see! Hopefully it will come to Switch soon...
yeah but the game is still easier
Presentation enhanced? The visuals look terrible, though, as does the UI
@@Jordan3DS Different opinions exist? Wha...?
@@trifortay reason why i prefer the steam version
@@Jordan3DS why, because they decided not to downgrade it to the PSP style (I’m talking FFV and FFVI, the PSP version of FFIV is the best looking version of that game)?
Do you plan on making videos on other port comparisons for non recent games? Maybe Chrono Trigger or the other dragon quest games?
Sadly, we never see Enuo the legend's real final boss in this pixel remaster. Unless someday Square Enix decide to add the GBA extra contents to it.
The PSP look for Final Fantasy 1,2&4 is universally liked and for some reason SE didn't understand this and adopt it to 3,5&6. Maybe one day we'll get a FF 1-6 collection with the PSP sprites.
Personally, I much prefer the DS look in 4's case.
@@ltb1345
Eww yuck! That chibi look is just awful. Be that as it may though, the PSP look is the most universally liked and that's the reason the should adopt it for all their pixel games.
@@SeanUCF i think it looks great. . Reminds me of crystal Chronicles.
I still don't understand why the pixel remaster don't allow for switching to the original soundtracks.
In a way it comes off as arrogance, as if they think the remastered soundtrack obsoletes the original one. Delisting the previous Steam version only exacerbates the issue. Personally I don't like orchestral music so between that and the missing GBA content, I'll stick with the older Steam release.
@@atrocity3010
Delisting the old versions was such a terrible decision!
I thought everyone hated the initial smartphone/Steam version? In fact, that's exactly why Square bothered making the Pixel Remasters.
@@jonespianist3189
It's true many people hate those versions of V and VI, but that's not why they're making the PR versions. But many people hate the old steam version of VIII and yet they have left that up even with the Remaster available.
@@ballroomscott Because PocketStation.
As ridiculously weak a reason as that is.
I decided to go with the GBA Script Port rom patch for the original SFC version. It fully translates the entire game, includes most of the major bug fixes and I also added a patch to add dash like the PSX version. I'm using it on my SNES Classic to play it. Almost went with the GBA version, but this is a better experience. The Pixel Remaster just feels "off" to me for some reason.. might be the font or something.
You can mod the font on all the Pixel Remasters.
The pixel remaster alters dialogue for the sake of not offending people, as well as unbugging the quicksave and changing how some jobs and some abilities work.
This makes the game harder for sure, but it also eliminates certain strategies from being doable for playing the game however you like
I'm playing the gba version with the original sound mod and it's the best. The only thing that sucks for me is that i'm playing on my ds, and the gbarunner2 crashes the game when you use the Monk command Kick. Besides that, perfect.
I wonder why this game didn't get a 3D remake like 3 and 4 did. This is my favourite Final Fantasy game and it would be nice to see it have a 3D remake.
Tbe 3D models are quite cartoonish and chibi. Even for DS it doesnt look geat. a Switch remake would require greater dev cost
Long story short: Get the Gameboy Advance version for the best overall experience.
Looks like I might have to replay this, the GBA version seems to be the best one. I played the SNES ROM many years ago.
So many Versions and i still w8 until Square get there Asses up making more HD 2D Games like Octopath Traveler and Dragon Quest 3 HD 2D Remake.
Sold me on the Pixel Remaster. Thanks!
Finally, more AustinSV... But it looks like FF6 PR is delayed, so I guess I'll have to wait. Sad! Thanks for the videos, Austin!
There’s been concept artwork for the battle sprites of the classes. If a high-res remaster were to make the battle sprites look like that concept artwork, then a 4K remaster would be viable. The thing is that the previous version had blurry sprites.
Thanks for all the awesome work you put into these! Enjoy that well-deserved break, my dood
Would you be willing to make a playlist SPECIFICALLY for Final Fantasy, in order of game, not upload date? I would really like to share it with a friend if you did ever make a playlist like this. Thank you!
Did you know you can make playlists yourself arrenged as you like?
One huge note for those interested in the iPhone/iPad version - there is no controller support. It’s mindboggling considering that years-old game released from Square include it (like Chrono Trigger), and it has prevented me from buying it
There is controller support for the Android version though, which makes its omission from iOS even more baffling.
This is the reason I haven’t picked up the pixel remasters for my phone, Chrono Trigger works great with a controller so I’m not sure why they omit this on iOS
Thank you for doing these increíble and well made videos. I can tell you put a lot of energy into them. I hope they bring these Pixel Remasters to Switch!
I love the job system, finding broken sinergies and custumizing your team is really fun
Romeo's ballad go brr lol. I wonder how the bard can be so good in ff3 (party buffs at high job levels that work end game) and ff5 yet ff4 Edward is terrible 🤣. I also like Mr. Clio psychic parody. Just wish exdeath wanted to make turtle soup out of Ghido lol.
I bought my way to victory.
Coin toss ftw.
Well, if you like broken gameplay then good for you. I despise FFV because of that (and the grinding).
@@sebastiankulche you don't have to grind in ff5. You chose to stay at the wrong job, like not starting red mage in Phoenix tower to get 500 of the 999 ABP needed for dualcast. FF3 is similar (wrong class at wrong time and not exploiting defend 4 times to job level up every battle with 5 actions until comfy will make ya rage quit) but some help makes it a lotta fun (I said bards help in both games, did you use Romeo's ballad to cheese?). The thief got an overhaul do you can see hidden passages, Rob Gilgamesh of useful genji gear, and combine with monk's Barehanded to do good damage and go first.
I could break down a setup if you'd like to go, endgame you have to master and transfer with freelancer (physical jobs usually) and Mime (3 commands, dualcast with multiple magic though blue magic won't work with dualcast). I hated the mystic knight for wasting a turn for spellblade as I'd heal my enemy with bad luck (and couldn't equip stronger knight swords I had), or hit with confuse so I wasted it, but some use it to cast break and guarantee killing enemies, and I think this includes one part of the last boss, neo exdeath.
It's just a puzzle solving charm that can't be had in an overrated game like Chrono trigger where you actually use 2 people to heal your party, where the chemist mix lets you fully heal hp and mp (Phoenix down+potion best revival ever for all 3) or cheese bosses.
@@MrVariant "You dont have to grind in ffv".
Sorry, but you are wrong. In fact, is one of the grindiest games i ever played. Bosses like Atomos, Neo Exdeath or Omega, if you dont do broken strategies they are very hard to beat normally. Obtaining job exp is so tedious and fuc.... long, until you fight the brown circles in the rift (i dont remember their name, maybe movers, i dont care). Even then you could waste hours for max only one class since movers were rare. Dont even talk about level up, you need like 30000 or 40000 exp points to level up on level 40 and onwards and the enemies that i find that gives me the most exp gives me like 1000-1500. And since in FFV the battles takes so long (something shamefully also happens in a lot of other games in the series starting with IV), you can take also some hours to level up one character (yeah, i do the math). At least FF3 balance much more the jobs and level up them doesnt make too much difference. In FFV i cannot use the jobs that i want since most of them are useless and others are only worth just for unlocking one skill (in FF1 a red mage was so useful, while in FFV why you would use it after unlocking dualcast?). The skills are also poorly balanced, i dont know why but FFV started the tendency in the series of making rapid fire and dualcast dominant strategy. One of the most unbalanced skills i ever seen in an RPG ever.
Those mobile ports of III/V/VI aren't as bad as many make them to be. Being locked to just Mobile/Steam platforms is what's most annoying about them and make them hate-able is more of an actual fact.
Great video as always - I wish you'd included some of the data from the Four Job Fiesta community but perhaps that can be one of your shorter videos ;)
This is the 1st that I've ever played, I played this when I was 4 yrs old, this is the game that gotten me interested in games, still up to this day I have a zip file of it for my GBA emulator if ever I want to play it again...
11:28 Why was this done? That's going against the mythology of sirens in the first place. People need to leave politics out of games.
It would be awesome to have 3D remake of FF V
6:39 I played the mobile version with a controller, so it does support controllers natively.
I really wish that the pixel remaster had the option for old music so that we had the definitive edition
Why even stop there? Allow players to switch through the various visual updates, music, and sound effects.
But it's still wouldn't the definitive experience, because the spritework looks terrible
@@Jordan3DS Ouch!
@@Jordan3DS so you think the OG spritework looks terrible?
@@thomasffrench3639 No, the original SNES spritework looks great, I'm saying that the spritework in the new version is really crappy and amateurish.
I still prefer the SNES score for FF 4, 5, and 6.
All of them. Saved ya 18 mins
A difference I haven’t seen on the internet: the Break and Death spellblade / X-attack combos cannot target a killed enemy again in Famicom version. In GBA version it has a chance of hitting the same target more than once. A minor nerf.
It bothers me that Ff 5 and 6 never got 3D remakes like ff 3, 4 and after years, seems like a missed oportunity to me.
I'm very saddened that they removed the bonus content from the GBA versions in all of these games. I really wish they didn't do that, this would have been a day one buy. As it stands, I can play the GBA version on Retroarch mGBA core with xBRZ shaders to Clean up the visuals and get the most out of fixes with romhack patches including sound and color/frame rate fixes.
These pixel remasters are a real missed opportunity.
Seems with these remasters they only wanted more or less straight ports from the original versions, no extras.
Sergeant grimm agreed. I still prefer the Famicom version with the j2e translation. The official translation is weird, stupid, and "americanized." Also, the pixel remaster soundtrack for ffv is very hit or miss. Some tracks like the Moore forest track are bangers but the main battle theme oddly sounds worse than the original to me and that's quite annoying because you hear it a lot.
@@alanlee67 Spot on! I noticed while listening to the new soundtrack, some of the songs just don't capture the original vibe and intensity, especially Ex Deaths battle them (Decisive Battle). The heavy drum pounding and strong bass were the highlights that drove the song and made it more menacing and its dumbed down significantly. Aspects of it sound good and it sounds better than most of the other arranged versions I've heard but not nearly as good as the original.
Isn't the extra content of the GBA versions generally considered to be awful, though?
@@Jordan3DS I have literally never seen a positive opinion on any of the content added in the gba versions of any of the games before it became a reason to complain about the pixel remasters.
The new jobs 5 got in it's gba version ARE cool though, but they come too late in the game to be useful iirc. Would have been cool if they had added those in and gave them to you earlier.
One change I noticed in the Pixel remaster was that Aim and Mug no longer prevent the Chicken Knife from activating, unsure if that's in the mobile version too
If that is true then it is definitely unique to the Pixel Remaster. Other abilities to check would be !Focus, !Rapidfire, and !Jump. Also Ninja with Dual Lance in the first hand, but that didn't work in the Mobile version
I would love to have a 3D Remake of this game, because gameplaywise its really really good. Exploring the 3 worlds in 3D would be so cool
There was one on the DS, I'm sure
@@nezkeys79 there wasn't
Very informative and thorough video. Thank pou !
I think in this instance, what you get depends on preference. I have the ps1 version so I might not get the pixel remaster. But if you don't have the snes, ps1, or gba version, you can't go wrong with the pixel remaster. You can go wrong with the previous ugly steam and mobile release though. I'm glad that's been delisted.
Best versions:
Most "Pure": Super Famicom
Most Content: GBA/Steam Mobile
Best Compromise?: Pixel Remaster
This and VI are perhaps the only pixel remaster i would consider recommending to someone. While the GBA version does have the most content, the pixel remaster arguably is otherwise actually a compromise that doesn't sacrifice as much as it offers, unlike the previous 4 games.
👑You put so much hard work and research in these videos. If anybody ever asks me what version of Final Fantasy they should play, I'll point them to your channel every time. I hope you had a great holiday and thank you for the video!
The detail in these videos is awesome!
This sounds like a game that isn't going to be completely bug free no matter what you play because for some reason in the later ports the newest issue is max mp being way lower than what it actually should be.
Jobs system is the best. Like IRL, you can learn and use different skills on different level. That's why FFV and 12 is best than the rest of the series.
I’m so excited to see your review of FF6 when it happens, I love that game.
Nice job with these videos. So informative.
I just wish they remade the classic Final Fantasy's in the style of Octopath Traveler. That art style would work perfectly with Final Fantasy's 5 and 6
Just beat the pixel remaster a couple weeks ago. Since i dont have time to play with all the jobs. I was stoked when i got the Mime job. Made NeoExdeath a joke. :)
I've loved watching your final fantasy comparison series these past few years, but seeing as you only have FFVI left to do, are you considering making videos comparing the different versions of the Dragon Quest games next?
14:53 - A bit of correction on this one. The glitch only affected the SNES version of the game(And probably PSX since the two were very similar). The GBA version fixed the glitch, which remained fixed for future versions.
ITS BOTH the Save glitch DID effect the PS1 version of the game but ONLY if you played it on the PS1/PS2/PSP versions of the game that save glitch isn't on the PSN version via the PS3/Vita at all though.
@@veghesther3204 ?
I'm talking about the Berserker Chicken Knife interaction. Not sure how a save glitch popped up when it had nothing to do with it at that moment.
Well the PS1 version IS full of glitches INCLUDING the CAN'T See the screen when you attempt TO save the game itself which effects the PS1 version of the game if its played on the PS1/PS2/PSP.
I never used Berserker AFTER mastering it IN world 1.
@@veghesther3204 Good for you.
Then I don't know why you decided to waste time replying to my comment.
To me, this was the test into seeing whether or not the pixel remaster or the ps1 version were definite buys in gaining a copy. What I usually look for in the first six final fantasy games IS the sound/music quality from the SNES. I own the ps1 version and the sound quality disappoints me. Squaresoft knew how to utilize the sound chip within the SNES/Super Famicom to the best of its abilities (i.e. Reina's theme in the very beginning was the reason that got me hooked).
I am actually quite sad that these collections do not include their original soundtracks like other remaster releases Spyro the Dragon Reignite Trilogy.
Great video again!
6:19 Do you know hot to get the 2013 Mobile version of FF5/FF6?
man, i'm so hype for Final Fantasy VI PR
So, still no true definitive version. So PAL GBA version with sound and graphics patches is most optimal FFV as of now.
Happy New Year's
I’m praying they bring these pixel remasters to consoles. Even if it’s just the Switch. You can now play VII through X on PS4/5 and Switch and I through VI deserve the same love and attention.
They should have done that from the start as well as putting them on the PS4/PS4 despite that I only own a PS4 BUT they should have had the GBA/PSP extra content in them IF they game PS4 PS5 Switch ports.
As for the Save Screen Glitch of FF5 its not in the Pixel version since its a port of the SNES game.
They will be putting them on consoles eventually. It's typical manipulation tactics when they say things like "if there is demand" beause they know the demand is there. They want to keep a long stretch so you'll eventually cave in, buy the PC/mobile versions and then they'll announce the console versions.
@@veghesther3204 why do you think they would? All evidence points to the bonus content not coming back.
Late Christmas present
Sounds like it's a close race between the Steam and PR versions for me. Having a really hard time deciding, as while the extra content of the Steam version sounds good, the PR version has great music and a more polished gameplay.
Okay so I wasn't crazy for feeling like the mobile/steam version was super lit.
All the GBA bonuses, original music without the need to patch, GOOD fixes, battle speed... oh also I'm sure someone has brought this up, but the mobile version absolutely does have controller support. Damn shame it was delisted because I like it more than my sound patched GBA version.
Thanks for the shout out! It was so frustrating not being able to find a complete list of accurate changes for the Mobile version. Thanks to Four Job Fiesta community for helping me compile that list.
A quick correction, my pronouns are they/them/their.
Huge fan of the channel, and I'm glad that I was able to help out in my own small way!
Apologies for that! Thank you again for putting together the list! ^^
No PSP version? that's a shame.
I love your videos! Can you please do Ogre Battle? :)
GBA the best, for sure, sadly we didnt recived a psp version, would be the pinacle
FF5 was amazing, never thought i would get this much satisfaction out of a pixel game.
I play the GBA version with a music restoration patch on a new 3ds xl xD
Ah my favorite FF game.
I hate how muddy the tile sets are in the pixel remaster for this game. I guess they weren’t sure how to remaster it but making the maps look like jpeg wasn’t the way…
Yeah, the mobile version is nice. Could've just used those. The sprites are good, too. Don't know why everyone is so annoyed by them. However, you won't find me trying to play all of any Final Fantasy title on a phone screen.