Excellent review Shane. I do like the style of the watch. It looked fine on your wrist so should be fine on my 8" one. However, the misaligned second hand is just too much. It makes the watch look cheap. It's a pity they don't use a high beat quartz movement as then misalignment will never be an issue.
Great review. I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed the second hand misalignment. I observed that on mine, although not to the degree of your copy. Strangely, my much less costly carbonox Luminox is dead on, so I'm surprised that my PD isn't also. Love that you also pointed out the hand design. Luminox clearly could have done better there. They're flat, boring and take away from what otherwise looks and feels like a premium watch to me. I bought the black dial version with SS bracelet and it's truly beautiful otherwise. The brushed stainless of the case and band have a feel reminiscent of my Omega Seamaster Professional. I'm keeping mine, but those two details are a little disappointing.
My luminox 3080 colour mark (one of the navy seal versions) saw me through an Afghan tour. Love that watch. Actually cost me only £85 to have the face and tritium renewed last year.
@@RelativeTime hey. It took about 6 weeks...but that is because as they were about to ship it back to me they noticed the hour register was broken and I asked them to fix that too, and they needed an old part (so another £80 or so). I was not upset at the delay, it's an older model. It looks fabulous now.
Interesting.....Outstanding, thorough review, Shane. I would really like this one if they cut the diameter by a few mm and the price by a hundred bucks.....
The seconds hand not hitting the markers was THE one thing I noticed in the first two seconds I saw the dial. It can either be the hands, or also the dial not perfectly centered in the case, or the markers not perfectly centered on the dial. I wouldn't accept this even on a 50 dollar watch.
What do you even talking about? You will rarely find a Quarz watch where the second hands are hitting every marker perfectly. Even on expensive premium brands they almost never hit the marker on the dial perfectly. Who even gives a fuq? This is a tough-build outdoor/sportswatch not a fine, elegant 1000€ dress watch. Stop being so picky and you will start do be much more happier in life.
@@Mentis-de There are quartz watches that hit the markers. If you don’t give a fuq, that’s another story. Maybe stop being so angry and you’ll enjoy life more.
@@unacarafea567 Did you even read and understand what i wrote before texting me? I wrote they are rare not that they don't exist. And before you judging my mood -> take care of your own buisness. Thanks!
I have a Vaer C5 with a ronda 715, half of the dail, the second hand will hit exactly 1/2 way between second markers and the other half it’ll be almost spot on
Thanks for the review and awesome photos and camera work. I own a few Luminox watches, but paid a lot less and on a bracelet. IMHO if someone wants to try a Tritium watch DEEP BLUE makes some nice ones. If anyone should look at them there is always an active 40% code. (DEEP or BLUE will work) I'm in no way affiliated with DB or any other company. I'm just a collector who owns a lot of Tritium watches. ANDROID, BALL, DEEP Blue and Luminox.
Great thorough review Shane. I wouldn't commit that cost to that level of half assery. Simple choice. I'd get a G Shock instead, maybe red, and throw in an Orient diver for fun. It's just not value for money and as if the mere name carries the product. It doesn't.
Excellent review as always. The seconds hand not hitting the marks drives me nuts! Can’t manufacturers notice this and understand that it is a deal breaker! C’mon Luminox!!
As I see more second alignment issues, the more I think the problem is the movement not moving exactly 1/60th each beat rather than only the placement of the hand during assembly. Here, the second hand seems to hit closer on some indices than others which feeds my suspicions.
Good Review. i very much agree w/ all the points you make. i'm not super finniky about a second hand hitting it's mark, but i do expect more for the price. One watch brand that i'm aware of that offers Tritium for less is Deep Blue. Would I say they're the most Unique looking watches around? NO. but. 500M water resistant, Sapphire crystal, Ceramic Bezel, w/ a choice of Oyster, Jubilee, Engineer, & Beads of Rice Bracelets (as well as Rubber strap options) all for a Retail Price of nearly $200 - $250 Less (w/o discounts). & you can usualy find a promo code hanging out there for 40% off. so you're more watch for less than half the price
@@rumatadestora you'd think so especially since they initiated the suggested review. Makes you wonder about QC and if ALL the watches will have this issue. At this price (with lum that will be gone in 20 years essentially leaving no lum) plus the movement it is a no. This is not a price for a disposable watch in my opinion.
awesome review Shane! hilarious! ive had a luminox seaturtule 38mm and loved it! i think the second hand was better aligned then! but the strap was super comfortable the tritium was awesome and it was super light. although the lack of screw down crown was noticeable.
I have a few luminox I have a few that have stainless steel cases they seem to be better I don’t know how I feel about the poly carbonate cases. Are used to wear mine to the jail all the time when I was a detention officer that part of my life is over I find my luminous is not being used anymore I have other watches I enjoy wearing much better.For a watch to get everything done and not have to worry about getting destroyed in the line of duty G shocks work better
Way too expensive for what it offers.I like it,but,when it comes to tool watches,Casios every day of the week and twice on Sunday!!As always,great revew.
A nice looking piece although for me much to big, as for the misaligned second hand I find this unacceptable particularly at this price, I have a number of analogue Casio's and the second hand hits the mark on every one, so if Casio can do it why not all? nice review...stay safe
Someone once told me that Casio invested in robotics that help to line everything up during assembly. I'm not sure if it's true, but one of the best watches I've got is my Oceanus T200. The second hand is spot on. Although I have a G-shock GSTB200 that's a bit off. So who knows.
@@RelativeTime Yes I've got the Oceanus S100 beautiful watch, second hand spot on, as it has been from day one, and it is by far my favourite watch in my small collection.
So... a watch that is 46mm wide (too big), based on Ronda 515 (if I remember correctly, it's about $5 in bulk and sub $10 in retail - it's good and reliable quartz caliber, no problem here), with basic T25 tubes, "decent" production tier and "ok" quality control. Since manufacturing cost should be sub $40, it would be a nice tool watch for $199.
The thing is, I've got some budget quartz watches with Seiko/Epson and Miyota/Citizen calibers with second hand that hits the goddamn markers. And I've got some quartz watches with Swiss ETA (and a couple of Ronda) calibers, and their second hand fails to hit the markers at least on some part of the dial depending on orientation. Ok, cheap workhorse like Ronda 515 has that inherent backlash that makes hitting all the markers impossible, but still, come on, they should know that most watch collectors have that special case of watch OCD that may lead to rage outburst upon seeing misalignment.
How long does the battery last? I suspect it would be highly inconvenient for the battery to pack up when used by military or medical.personnel. For this reason, I suggest solar or a good automatic watch would be more practical and reliable. I wonder what a military or medical professional would say. Interesting review, as always,Shane☘
GS has perfected the quartz. I wonder why it's so difficult or expensive to line the seconds hand perfectly. Haven't really seen anyone explaning the work that goes into that. There's a lot of technical videos about mechanical movements, but not about manufacturing this type of a watch.
Great review Shane. A bit like a red Kamasu on steroids. The Nite Watches Hawk might be a cheaper alternative. Oh and what’s on your wrist in this review?
Ah that... recent impulse buy. Christopher Ward Compressor. Every time I did a compressor review recently someone was always commenting how much they liked theirs. Randomly checked on eBay and saw one that had a pretty low starting bid. It's the now discontinued black sands version. Eventually I'll have a video on it, but it's pretty nice. First time trying anything from CW, and I'm digging the Kool-Aid.
Superb review dude, i'd been looking at these to get one on my channel and i think you just helped me save some money LOL 😎😎 so thanks for that and such a shame also as i really want to like luminox but something keeps holding me back, and Traser for tritium come in at a similar price i think,
Depending on the store, or if you have a favorite brand. I think it can be a little more difficult at least compared to 20 and 22mm. But you are right, there are plenty of places that still sell them.
A second hand that lines up exactly has to do with the quality of the movement. It has zero to do with sloppy installation or someone "not caring". Some quartz movements are built with tighter tolerances and they cost more to manufacture than what is in your typical quartz watch. And Luminox uses "basic" quartz movements. If you want a quartz movement that hits the hour markers exactly, look at some of the higher end Seiko watches.
@@RelativeTime No. The Seiko 7C46 which is in a few dive watches is considered a “high end” quartz at a much lower price than a Grand Seiko. About $1000 or so for a Marine Master Prospex 300m.
I like the look of that one with the red. It's a nice-looking tool watch. Unfortunately, Luminox doesn't make any watches I actually want for my 6.5" wrist. I've checked their site from time to time but nothing in my size seems to appeal to me.
It looks trash, it build with resin that look like trash and feel like trash, the movement is cheap innovative quartz trash. Its a Swiss trash masking "toughness", because every Swiss got a pass.
Great review as always. I had to go back 2-3 times to watch your assessment of the second hand alignment issue; that was cinematic gold right there, lol! +$500 for a quartz anything is an insane amount of dough. Insane! There is a Chinese made Trit watch called "Carnival" that can be had for $100-150 (not that I'd buy one). Funny story: I was gifted a Timex Expedition chronograph that had the large second hand misaligned. Every time I looked at that big stationary hand sitting there misaligned... "GRRRRRRR!"!!! Until one day, I accidentally bumped it off a table onto a carpeted floor; and the hand has been centered ever since!
I bought a Luminox Navy Seal eleven years ago. I had no clue what to look for in a watch. All I wanted was a watch I could read in any light without my glasses on. So I got the mid blue dial with the white hands. It always ran, always kept fantastic time, and was always right there when I wanted it. I put a new battery in it, bought a new Luminox velcro strap for it, and retired it to a watch box a year ago. I hated the fact that the damned second hand would never hit the mark. And that the degree of error depended on whether it was in the top or bottom half of the minute. I hated that, when hacking the watch to set it, the minute hand could jump as much as half a mark when pushing the crown in. And this was not consistent each time, so you couldn't anticipate it. I hated that. And I loved wearing that watch for ten years as it went everywhere with me. And I'll never part with it.
Often times with bigger brands they just punch your info in like you placed a regular order. Then the regular fulfillment process handles it. You think they would want to double check everything, but it usually doesn't happen. In some ways that's good, as whatever I get is the same thing that any customer would get. So it's realistic as far as what you could expect.
If it was say...300 bucks? Maybe. But at that price? Pass. Would obviously check it out to make sure the second hand hit the marks better if I did want to pull the trigger tho.
Not only did the guy installing the movement not give a shit, the QC guy didn't give a shit, and ultimately someone picked out a watch to send to a reviewer and thought, "Fuck it, good enough." One would assume you got a good one, not a bad one. That's kind of concerning.
I actually think tool watches should be smaller, otherwise the watch gets snagged on things. I still have a mark on my wrist when the watch got caught between two rocks whilst hiking a decade ago.
I think it depends on the model. If your looking at the entry level Marathons, like the GPs, they will be a little below Luminox in quality... maybe on par. But I think the SAR divers will be a major step above Luminox.
I don't really care for Luminox. The all black stealth looks kind of cool. I do like tritium very much. It is my pick over lume. I have a Bertucci A - 4T Yankee. Check out this one. You will be pleasantly surprised.
I once heard that luminox is a "tacticool" brand, not really for military use, pretty expensive and not that good overall. I can't really disagree, every time I see one of their watches, tacticool is all I see.
I think the tacticool rep started from the fact they actually did design a watch for the Seals. So all the "wannabe operators" gravitate towards them for that alone. So I don't think its the brand itself, as much as the crowd that's gathered around it. Then there is the whole Bear Grylls line at Luminox. I actually like Bear, but not sure about some of those designs. They are lightweight and functional. So I guess they aren't bad in a survival situation. Plus the bright colors will help you get spotted.
@@RelativeTime Yeah no I get it. I don't hate their designs. Bright colors have their place on rescue situations and they have very cool looking watches. But I saw too many negative reviews from the owners about their quality and durability, that I can't really see myself getting one
I have always preferred tritium over painted lume. I guess I have been spoiled by Marathon. I have been wearing this brand since my days in the Marine Corps. As for Luminox, not my pick. I did have hopes for this one, however I will pass.
+1 A marathon is a lump of solid 316L steel with H3 tubes. You can have tiny, normal or Orangutan sizes. It comes on a superb rubber strap, or an o.k. bracelet. You get spoiled for colo(u)r ways: Henry Ford black, or, wild & left field, white. Tool watch supreme.
Might be less then that. I know Marathon also does discounts for professionals. So if you need it, that's also an option. I'd be curious to compare the tritium lume between the two. Marathon should be good, but I don't think they list if it's a T25 or T50 intensity.
The product has tritium to save changing batteries more frequently if the lighted markers and hands were powered by LED. And that's my rub; EYE don't have any patience for changing batteries and a Ronda doesn't do it for me UN less of you provide smooth seconds hand powered with LED and/or augmented lume for a more comprehensive effect. EYE don't know about you but with a 25 - yr shelf life on the tritium I'm looking at perhaps seven or eight battery changes? Why knot just jump for some solar too? That lumed handset with a tritium center would add to the dull flatness of the pair now. And it could bee I'm on to something another watch designer might listen to. Now where's Producer Michael?
😎 That was a call back to a joke I made during the Orient Mako II review. Personally I like a good Hawaiian, but for some it's an unholy combination. Just like mixing Arabics and dashes on a diver dial. As a side note, the best Hawaiian I ever had was from a place here in Dallas. They added dried cranberries to the pizza. Which initially sounded crazy and disgusting, but the sweet / tart flavor mixed nicely with the pineapple.
All these affordable watches all seem to blend together, from existing brands that play in this market to the microbrands. Zelos, Spinnaker, Axios, all good watches and they try to find a niche or look that seperates them from the others but in the end they all seem to blend in together. That is why if I was to buy affordables I would go with Seiko, Citizen, Hamilton, Tissot and afew others. A Hammie, Seiko, Citizen or Tissot will be around 20 years from now and have horological relevence the other watches will most likely diminish as time goes by. I understand that people buy what they like and buy watches that look nice but when you are talking about watch collections these affodables over time will not have the relevence as a Seiko lets say. Another thing there are Micro brands rhar have become relevent like Monta but as you see they are no longer an affordable. If you are to spend 500 bucks on a watch best save another 500 bucks and buy a watch that has relevence in the long term, or maybe a few hundred more and get a Sinn for 1300 bucks, or a Longines, or Mido, these brands will add a compliment to any collection in the long term.
LOL at watch guys still thinking that sWiSs mAdE means anything. Swiss quartz watches that I’ve owned have had the absolute worst alignment; not just off the mark, but would wander from right on, to halfway between and back again. The Swiss watch industry hates quartz watches and will never put any effort in to those movements. lol
@@TheDevilmayfart Pretentious, following the leader, parroting opinions, possibly racist, snobbish; there are a lot of things you can say about the average watch guy’s obsession on sWiSs mAdE but it’s definitely not based in reality or on actual, factual, demonstrative data. I’m with you, I’m over this fawning about faux Swiss made anything. I don’t even like their chocolates anymore because of WIS.
I think swiss made still means something, but not anywhere what's it's supposed to. Which is honestly the problem. So the reason I brought it up, is that if they want to act like it means something more. Then they need to be held accountable when something is truly sub par.
@@RelativeTimeShane, I appreciate you bringing it up as yet another data point against the perceived Keebler elf-like merry men that assemble S.E.A. produced parts in the Alps. For the NPCs programmed by Hodinkee and Watchbox, something being allegedly 'Swiss made' is a selling/talking point. To you and I and the types of watch enthusiasts that are not interested in low-value luxury watches, we _know_ it's just a talking point, like 'cutting out the middle man' and 'affordable luxury' are. Vague platitudes that don't mean anything in reality.
I found your review good, but you come across as a butthead with respect to the second hand issue. Hell, even Merecedes cars don't show up absolutely perfect from the factory. EVERY single manufacturer has products delivered with issues. If the second hand being a half second off is the biggest issue, then so be it. BTW, maybe you just got a reject since I've watched other videos and theirs had no problems.
Second-hand alignment is always a tricky subject with watch collectors. For most brands, it's really luck of the draw. For some, perhaps like yourself, they realize it happens and it's no big deal. While for others they see it misaligned and they go nuts. I can't tell you how many comments I've gotten like that on a $100 Seiko. Or the times I've heard "If Casio can do it on my $20 duro, why can't they?" It's been a while since I made this, but if I remember right, my issue is more that it's really misaligned at the price they are selling this for. I've long since given up expecting perfectly lined-up seconds, but there comes a price point where I think they should at least try. If this one was off by a little, I wouldn't of minded. yet for $600 it seemed particularly bad.
![[BAEMON NEWS 7] NEW ALBUM COMING IN](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/wtVeAPimOyo/mqdefault.jpg)
"Not giving a shit . . . or . . . not giving a damn." Ronda movements as a metaphor for life choices, right there!
LOL
@@RelativeTime Ronda movement really sucks tho. The only "good thing" about it is its Swiss. Other than that its just like 5 dollars quartz movement.
Excellent review Shane. I do like the style of the watch. It looked fine on your wrist so should be fine on my 8" one. However, the misaligned second hand is just too much. It makes the watch look cheap. It's a pity they don't use a high beat quartz movement as then misalignment will never be an issue.
The red dial is gorgeous btw.
Great review. I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed the second hand misalignment. I observed that on mine, although not to the degree of your copy. Strangely, my much less costly carbonox Luminox is dead on, so I'm surprised that my PD isn't also. Love that you also pointed out the hand design. Luminox clearly could have done better there. They're flat, boring and take away from what otherwise looks and feels like a premium watch to me. I bought the black dial version with SS bracelet and it's truly beautiful otherwise. The brushed stainless of the case and band have a feel reminiscent of my Omega Seamaster Professional. I'm keeping mine, but those two details are a little disappointing.
Love the red/burgundy dial, perfect size for my 7.5" wrist with 63mm span.
My luminox 3080 colour mark (one of the navy seal versions) saw me through an Afghan tour. Love that watch. Actually cost me only £85 to have the face and tritium renewed last year.
That's not bad. How long did it take them to service it?
@@RelativeTime hey. It took about 6 weeks...but that is because as they were about to ship it back to me they noticed the hour register was broken and I asked them to fix that too, and they needed an old part (so another £80 or so). I was not upset at the delay, it's an older model. It looks fabulous now.
Well said on the 2ndhand alignment.
Good review. I never see reviews of Luminox and I like the brand.
Interesting.....Outstanding, thorough review, Shane. I would really like this one if they cut the diameter by a few mm and the price by a hundred bucks.....
Nice review as usual Shane. A lovely watch but if the seconds hand is out it would do my head in particularly with the price being asked.
Like the dual-colored tritium. Overall impression: Form follows function with some style thrown in.
The seconds hand not hitting the markers was THE one thing I noticed in the first two seconds I saw the dial.
It can either be the hands, or also the dial not perfectly centered in the case, or the markers not perfectly centered on the dial.
I wouldn't accept this even on a 50 dollar watch.
Agree!!
There are very few quartz movements that have second hands that hit the markers exactly. If you have one from most brands, you are just lucky.
What do you even talking about?
You will rarely find a Quarz watch where the second hands are hitting every marker perfectly. Even on expensive premium brands they almost never hit the marker on the dial perfectly. Who even gives a fuq? This is a tough-build outdoor/sportswatch not a fine, elegant 1000€ dress watch. Stop being so picky and you will start do be much more happier in life.
@@Mentis-de There are quartz watches that hit the markers. If you don’t give a fuq, that’s another story. Maybe stop being so angry and you’ll enjoy life more.
@@unacarafea567
Did you even read and understand what i wrote before texting me? I wrote they are rare not that they don't exist. And before you judging my mood -> take care of your own buisness. Thanks!
I have a Vaer C5 with a ronda 715, half of the dail, the second hand will hit exactly 1/2 way between second markers and the other half it’ll be almost spot on
Thanks for the review and awesome photos and camera work. I own a few Luminox watches, but paid a lot less and on a bracelet. IMHO if someone wants to try a Tritium watch DEEP BLUE makes some nice ones. If anyone should look at them there is always an active 40% code. (DEEP or BLUE will work) I'm in no way affiliated with DB or any other company. I'm just a collector who owns a lot of Tritium watches. ANDROID, BALL, DEEP Blue and Luminox.
Great thorough review Shane. I wouldn't commit that cost to that level of half assery. Simple choice. I'd get a G Shock instead, maybe red, and throw in an Orient diver for fun. It's just not value for money and as if the mere name carries the product. It doesn't.
Excellent review as always.
The seconds hand not hitting the marks drives me nuts! Can’t manufacturers notice this and understand that it is a deal breaker! C’mon Luminox!!
Such a good channel!!
As I see more second alignment issues, the more I think the problem is the movement not moving exactly 1/60th each beat rather than only the placement of the hand during assembly. Here, the second hand seems to hit closer on some indices than others which feeds my suspicions.
Good Review. i very much agree w/ all the points you make. i'm not super finniky about a second hand hitting it's mark, but i do expect more for the price. One watch brand that i'm aware of that offers Tritium for less is Deep Blue. Would I say they're the most Unique looking watches around? NO. but. 500M water resistant, Sapphire crystal, Ceramic Bezel, w/ a choice of Oyster, Jubilee, Engineer, & Beads of Rice Bracelets (as well as Rubber strap options) all for a Retail Price of nearly $200 - $250 Less (w/o discounts). & you can usualy find a promo code hanging out there for 40% off. so you're more watch for less than half the price
My luminox pacific driver second hand ticks with the lines "not halfway" perhaps they gave you a defective piece
The company ads show the second hand hitting the marker perfectly - imagine that!?!
Have you contacted Luminox to ask them about the seconds hand missing the markers so badly? I'd be curious about their response.
They should at least have tweaked this one with the view that they are sending it in for a review
@@rumatadestora you'd think so especially since they initiated the suggested review. Makes you wonder about QC and if ALL the watches will have this issue.
At this price (with lum that will be gone in 20 years essentially leaving no lum) plus the movement it is a no. This is not a price for a disposable watch in my opinion.
I haven't, although I let them know the review is out. So if they say anything I'll let you know.
@@RelativeTime ... thanks Shane.
awesome review Shane! hilarious! ive had a luminox seaturtule 38mm and loved it! i think the second hand was better aligned then! but the strap was super comfortable the tritium was awesome and it was super light. although the lack of screw down crown was noticeable.
I have a few luminox I have a few that have stainless steel cases they seem to be better I don’t know how I feel about the poly carbonate cases. Are used to wear mine to the jail all the time when I was a detention officer that part of my life is over I find my luminous is not being used anymore I have other watches I enjoy wearing much better.For a watch to get everything done and not have to worry about getting destroyed in the line of duty G shocks work better
I love your reviews. I do not love Luminox in general but it looks ok. And you can put it in a gym sock and fight crime with it.
Way too expensive for what it offers.I like it,but,when it comes to tool watches,Casios every day of the week and twice on Sunday!!As always,great revew.
A nice looking piece although for me much to big, as for the misaligned second hand I find this unacceptable particularly at this price, I have a number of analogue Casio's and the second hand hits the mark on every one, so if Casio can do it why not all? nice review...stay safe
Someone once told me that Casio invested in robotics that help to line everything up during assembly. I'm not sure if it's true, but one of the best watches I've got is my Oceanus T200. The second hand is spot on. Although I have a G-shock GSTB200 that's a bit off. So who knows.
@@RelativeTime Yes I've got the Oceanus S100 beautiful watch, second hand spot on, as it has been from day one, and it is by far my favourite watch in my small collection.
Should have used a 715 movement?
So... a watch that is 46mm wide (too big), based on Ronda 515 (if I remember correctly, it's about $5 in bulk and sub $10 in retail - it's good and reliable quartz caliber, no problem here), with basic T25 tubes, "decent" production tier and "ok" quality control. Since manufacturing cost should be sub $40, it would be a nice tool watch for $199.
The thing is, I've got some budget quartz watches with Seiko/Epson and Miyota/Citizen calibers with second hand that hits the goddamn markers. And I've got some quartz watches with Swiss ETA (and a couple of Ronda) calibers, and their second hand fails to hit the markers at least on some part of the dial depending on orientation. Ok, cheap workhorse like Ronda 515 has that inherent backlash that makes hitting all the markers impossible, but still, come on, they should know that most watch collectors have that special case of watch OCD that may lead to rage outburst upon seeing misalignment.
How long does the battery last? I suspect it would be highly inconvenient for the battery to pack up when used by military or medical.personnel. For this reason, I suggest solar or a good automatic watch would be more practical and reliable. I wonder what a military or medical professional would say. Interesting review, as always,Shane☘
Enjoy it whom of you who can.
The Komandirskie K39 is a wonderful, higher priced Vostok model with tritium lume. If you get the chance, please do a review on that one.
I didn't know there was one with tritium. I'll try to hunt one down.
Nice review 😊, Is there any quartz movement hiting the minut marks? I havent seen one 🤷🏻?
GS has perfected the quartz. I wonder why it's so difficult or expensive to line the seconds hand perfectly. Haven't really seen anyone explaning the work that goes into that. There's a lot of technical videos about mechanical movements, but not about manufacturing this type of a watch.
every Citizen I have does, and I have quite a few.
Great review Shane. A bit like a red Kamasu on steroids. The Nite Watches Hawk might be a cheaper alternative. Oh and what’s on your wrist in this review?
Ah that... recent impulse buy. Christopher Ward Compressor. Every time I did a compressor review recently someone was always commenting how much they liked theirs. Randomly checked on eBay and saw one that had a pretty low starting bid. It's the now discontinued black sands version.
Eventually I'll have a video on it, but it's pretty nice. First time trying anything from CW, and I'm digging the Kool-Aid.
Superb review dude, i'd been looking at these to get one on my channel and i think you just helped me save some money LOL 😎😎 so thanks for that and such a shame also as i really want to like luminox but something keeps holding me back, and Traser for tritium come in at a similar price i think,
Nice watch and review. However, there is no problem getting 24mm straps anywhere. Easy to find.
Depending on the store, or if you have a favorite brand. I think it can be a little more difficult at least compared to 20 and 22mm. But you are right, there are plenty of places that still sell them.
A second hand that lines up exactly has to do with the quality of the movement. It has zero to do with sloppy installation or someone "not caring". Some quartz movements are built with tighter tolerances and they cost more to manufacture than what is in your typical quartz watch. And Luminox uses "basic" quartz movements. If you want a quartz movement that hits the hour markers exactly, look at some of the higher end Seiko watches.
Are you talking Grand Seiko level Seiko?
@@RelativeTime No. The Seiko 7C46 which is in a few dive watches is considered a “high end” quartz at a much lower price than a Grand Seiko. About $1000 or so for a Marine Master Prospex 300m.
My seiko sur309 hits all indices. Also casio mtp’s
I like the look of that one with the red. It's a nice-looking tool watch. Unfortunately, Luminox doesn't make any watches I actually want for my 6.5" wrist. I've checked their site from time to time but nothing in my size seems to appeal to me.
Yah, I don't think they have anything for slimmer wrists. Plus they sized this as a 44, so I'm not sure if I would 100% trust their sizing either.
If Luminox tried to get the second hand between the indices, they succeded. I find the brand to be on the cheaply made side.
It looks trash, it build with resin that look like trash and feel like trash, the movement is cheap innovative quartz trash. Its a Swiss trash masking "toughness", because every Swiss got a pass.
@@bigboiganiga8356 Can yiu say trash again?
(Dick.)
Great review as always. I had to go back 2-3 times to watch your assessment of the second hand alignment issue; that was cinematic gold right there, lol!
+$500 for a quartz anything is an insane amount of dough. Insane! There is a Chinese made Trit watch called "Carnival" that can be had for $100-150 (not that I'd buy one).
Funny story: I was gifted a Timex Expedition chronograph that had the large second hand misaligned. Every time I looked at that big stationary hand sitting there misaligned... "GRRRRRRR!"!!!
Until one day, I accidentally bumped it off a table onto a carpeted floor; and the hand has been centered ever since!
I'm one of those who loves arabic numerals and markers, this is a lovely watch, with non of the ugliness of G-Shock, but maybe too expensive?
"Love Handles Aye" 🤫
I bought a Luminox Navy Seal eleven years ago. I had no clue what to look for in a watch. All I wanted was a watch I could read in any light without my glasses on. So I got the mid blue dial with the white hands. It always ran, always kept fantastic time, and was always right there when I wanted it. I put a new battery in it, bought a new Luminox velcro strap for it, and retired it to a watch box a year ago. I hated the fact that the damned second hand would never hit the mark. And that the degree of error depended on whether it was in the top or bottom half of the minute. I hated that, when hacking the watch to set it, the minute hand could jump as much as half a mark when pushing the crown in. And this was not consistent each time, so you couldn't anticipate it. I hated that. And I loved wearing that watch for ten years as it went everywhere with me. And I'll never part with it.
I noticed the mismatched second hand immediately. Funny that they chose to send you this particular watch to be reviewed on youtube. Ugh...
Often times with bigger brands they just punch your info in like you placed a regular order. Then the regular fulfillment process handles it.
You think they would want to double check everything, but it usually doesn't happen.
In some ways that's good, as whatever I get is the same thing that any customer would get. So it's realistic as far as what you could expect.
@@RelativeTime Yes. This speaks volumes to the detriment of the brand.
If it was say...300 bucks? Maybe. But at that price? Pass. Would obviously check it out to make sure the second hand hit the marks better if I did want to pull the trigger tho.
Not only did the guy installing the movement not give a shit, the QC guy didn't give a shit, and ultimately someone picked out a watch to send to a reviewer and thought, "Fuck it, good enough." One would assume you got a good one, not a bad one. That's kind of concerning.
I actually think tool watches should be smaller, otherwise the watch gets snagged on things. I still have a mark on my wrist when the watch got caught between two rocks whilst hiking a decade ago.
How would this brand stack up against a Marathon?
I think it depends on the model. If your looking at the entry level Marathons, like the GPs, they will be a little below Luminox in quality... maybe on par. But I think the SAR divers will be a major step above Luminox.
Second hand = end of story
I don't really care for Luminox. The all black stealth looks kind of cool. I do like tritium very much. It is my pick over lume. I have a Bertucci A - 4T Yankee. Check out this one. You will be pleasantly surprised.
Casio can line up a second hand no problem on a $25 watch. But they don't do tritium. And Charlie don't surf.
I once heard that luminox is a "tacticool" brand, not really for military use, pretty expensive and not that good overall. I can't really disagree, every time I see one of their watches, tacticool is all I see.
I think the tacticool rep started from the fact they actually did design a watch for the Seals. So all the "wannabe operators" gravitate towards them for that alone. So I don't think its the brand itself, as much as the crowd that's gathered around it.
Then there is the whole Bear Grylls line at Luminox. I actually like Bear, but not sure about some of those designs. They are lightweight and functional. So I guess they aren't bad in a survival situation. Plus the bright colors will help you get spotted.
@@RelativeTime Yeah no I get it. I don't hate their designs. Bright colors have their place on rescue situations and they have very cool looking watches. But I saw too many negative reviews from the owners about their quality and durability, that I can't really see myself getting one
"Ship it" - Luminox
nice watch do like but if i got the second hand issue i would send it back.. should not happen for $595 cheers
I have always preferred tritium over painted lume. I guess I have been spoiled by Marathon. I have been wearing this brand since my days in the Marine Corps. As for Luminox, not my pick. I did have hopes for this one, however I will pass.
+1 A marathon is a lump of solid 316L steel with H3 tubes. You can have tiny, normal or Orangutan sizes. It comes on a superb rubber strap, or an o.k. bracelet. You get spoiled for colo(u)r ways: Henry Ford black, or, wild & left field, white. Tool watch supreme.
@@seanmarlow9514 Semper Fi 🇺🇲
@@gregalonzo747 I was just RAF Regiment, but we agree on the watch
If I was to need a watch that came to the spec.'s you laid out. I'd save up the extra $600.00, and pick up a Marthon GSAR.
Might be less then that. I know Marathon also does discounts for professionals. So if you need it, that's also an option. I'd be curious to compare the tritium lume between the two. Marathon should be good, but I don't think they list if it's a T25 or T50 intensity.
A veritable dinner-plate, just as you said. The only good thing here is that dial
It's a clock, not a watch
You definitely feel the width..........
😋
The product has tritium to save changing batteries more frequently if the lighted markers and hands were powered by LED. And that's my rub; EYE don't have any patience for changing batteries and a Ronda doesn't do it for me UN less of you provide smooth seconds hand powered with LED and/or augmented lume for a more comprehensive effect. EYE don't know about you but with a 25 - yr shelf life on the tritium I'm looking at perhaps seven or eight battery changes? Why knot just jump for some solar too? That lumed handset with a tritium center would add to the dull flatness of the pair now. And it could bee I'm on to something another watch designer might listen to. Now where's Producer Michael?
What’s the problem with Hawaiian pizza 😋
😎 That was a call back to a joke I made during the Orient Mako II review. Personally I like a good Hawaiian, but for some it's an unholy combination. Just like mixing Arabics and dashes on a diver dial.
As a side note, the best Hawaiian I ever had was from a place here in Dallas. They added dried cranberries to the pizza. Which initially sounded crazy and disgusting, but the sweet / tart flavor mixed nicely with the pineapple.
I bought a Luminox Diver 9 years ago. Guess what, the second hand is the same - in the middle of each second 😡
Giant dinner plate, second hand not hitting the marks worth a shit and that price? PASSSSS!!!!!!
Expansive and/or Expensive?
That would of made a good title.
"Would have" vs. "Would of"
All these affordable watches all seem to blend together, from existing brands that play in this market to the microbrands. Zelos, Spinnaker, Axios, all good watches and they try to find a niche or look that seperates them from the others but in the end they all seem to blend in together. That is why if I was to buy affordables I would go with Seiko, Citizen, Hamilton, Tissot and afew others. A Hammie, Seiko, Citizen or Tissot will be around 20 years from now and have horological relevence the other watches will most likely diminish as time goes by. I understand that people buy what they like and buy watches that look nice but when you are talking about watch collections these affodables over time will not have the relevence as a Seiko lets say. Another thing there are Micro brands rhar have become relevent like Monta but as you see they are no longer an affordable. If you are to spend 500 bucks on a watch best save another 500 bucks and buy a watch that has relevence in the long term, or maybe a few hundred more and get a Sinn for 1300 bucks, or a Longines, or Mido, these brands will add a compliment to any collection in the long term.
Not bad but too big
A bit.
Attractive watch. But a lot of small details to fault. For me too large. Thank you.
Budget Quartz movements have less torque than any mechanicals, and will always hsve rarher flimsy handsets.
I see a supersized disappointing Kamasu homage. Yes, I own a Luminox and a red Kamasu.
Which Luminox do you have?
Hi Shane, I have the Luminox 3059.SET men's Scott Cassell in orange.
Tritium is the only way to go. I would take Tritium any day over lume. Many other good brands out there. As for this Luminox, a big NO.
Its a gmt lol
A fifteen dollar movement in a two hundred dollar case with three hundred dollars of Lume technology :(
Remember it has "Swiss made" on the dial. So at least 40% of that was Swiss labor to assemble. :)
Ugh !
Which part? Color or size?
@@RelativeTime The size, and those hands look cheap .
Why make a great looking watch..... Then go and stick a disgusting quartz movement in it?? Instant turn off....
Durability
LOL at watch guys still thinking that sWiSs mAdE means anything. Swiss quartz watches that I’ve owned have had the absolute worst alignment; not just off the mark, but would wander from right on, to halfway between and back again.
The Swiss watch industry hates quartz watches and will never put any effort in to those movements. lol
Thank you! I am so sick of people putting so much emphasis on "swiss made." It's honestly kinda pretentious.
@@TheDevilmayfart Pretentious, following the leader, parroting opinions, possibly racist, snobbish; there are a lot of things you can say about the average watch guy’s obsession on sWiSs mAdE but it’s definitely not based in reality or on actual, factual, demonstrative data.
I’m with you, I’m over this fawning about faux Swiss made anything. I don’t even like their chocolates anymore because of WIS.
I think swiss made still means something, but not anywhere what's it's supposed to. Which is honestly the problem. So the reason I brought it up, is that if they want to act like it means something more. Then they need to be held accountable when something is truly sub par.
@@RelativeTimeShane, I appreciate you bringing it up as yet another data point against the perceived Keebler elf-like merry men that assemble S.E.A. produced parts in the Alps.
For the NPCs programmed by Hodinkee and Watchbox, something being allegedly 'Swiss made' is a selling/talking point. To you and I and the types of watch enthusiasts that are not interested in low-value luxury watches, we _know_ it's just a talking point, like 'cutting out the middle man' and 'affordable luxury' are. Vague platitudes that don't mean anything in reality.
Nice enough, but WAYYYYY overpriced!.
That second hand alignment is criminal... my dirt cheap Casio is better than that.
Like you said in the video: the hands are fairly boring!
The same goes for the entire watch!!
Boring!!
first!!!
meh looks pretty cheap and big
I found your review good, but you come across as a butthead with respect to the second hand issue. Hell, even Merecedes cars don't show up absolutely perfect from the factory. EVERY single manufacturer has products delivered with issues. If the second hand being a half second off is the biggest issue, then so be it. BTW, maybe you just got a reject since I've watched other videos and theirs had no problems.
Second-hand alignment is always a tricky subject with watch collectors. For most brands, it's really luck of the draw.
For some, perhaps like yourself, they realize it happens and it's no big deal. While for others they see it misaligned and they go nuts. I can't tell you how many comments I've gotten like that on a $100 Seiko. Or the times I've heard "If Casio can do it on my $20 duro, why can't they?"
It's been a while since I made this, but if I remember right, my issue is more that it's really misaligned at the price they are selling this for. I've long since given up expecting perfectly lined-up seconds, but there comes a price point where I think they should at least try. If this one was off by a little, I wouldn't of minded. yet for $600 it seemed particularly bad.