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@@jeological5394 I also realize that LC maybe not as strong as Eidolon but they come with free stats so it's easier and more comfortable to build character
Yeee, I pull VERY few cones/eidolons as I'm ~95% F2P but that E1 was just simply too good. Everyone on her team can just spam skills. Hatblazer gets to skill every turn, gets tons of energy, deals a good amount of damage, and since I gave her Ruan Mei's cone for ult spam she fuels even _more_ SP for even more skill spam.
@@julioramirez8179 most sustains aren't worth vertically investing in unless they have something crazy like Lingsha E1 or maybe Huohuo E1, but otherwise not worth it
Really like that you acknowledged that signature lightcones are statistically cheaper to get than eidolons, I feel like many players don't seem to acknowledge this when promoting pulling for eidolons over sigs. Keep being an unbiased king
@@NoName-sh5xe characters start with 0 eidolons so thats e0, however lightcones start with 1 superimpose thus called as s1, having a e0s1 char means 0 eidolon only char and their lightcone without copies
How I usually choose between E1 and S1 is whichever has something more than just personal damage amp. Like Kafka's S1 has more speed and an extra dot, Firefly's E1 makes her skill not cost SP, Jade E1, Rappa S1, etc.
after having acheron for 8 months without her lc picking up her s1 was the biggest upgrade ever fs i got foxboy too so she will still clear content for awhile
This was a fun video, I've been toying with a similar idea, "the best limited light cones for characters besides their singature" to just rank the cones that have the most broadly applicable effects for multiple characters.
Something important to note about Kafka's signature lightcone, it literally is one of the few universally good lightcones on Nihility units. Speed is always good for applying debuffs more consistently, and also getting more turns, and generating more skillpoints/ult energy. And it's one of the only lightcones (apart from the well known Resolution Shines as Pearls) with a builtin extra debuff/DoT, which is important if you're trying to hit certain thresholds of debuffs/DoTs, such as for characters wearing Pioneer Diver relic set or Dr. Ratio's 3 debuff threshold. I generally feel it's the Nihility equivalent of Hunt's Topaz signature lightcone "Worrisome, Blissful", as in it's really damn well rounded and one of the few lightcones that may actually be worth pulling even if you don't pull the character. You don't _need_ Topaz, since March7thHunt or Moze can be a bit less powerful, but pretty close as a sub Hunt DPS, but Topaz's lightcone is just super versatile on her or on most any other Hunt character. And the same thing goes for Kafka's lightcone. Even if you don't want to pull for Kafka because DoT teams aren't "meta", Kafka's lightcone works well on basically any subdps Nihility. Luka, Sampo, Guinaifen, Jiaoqiu, Welt, even Acheron herself. Also, you skipped Silver Wolf, whose LC is also worth looking at as well, for the same reasons as Kafka's LC.
SW leans more towards being a debuff support (like her fellow 5-star Nihil-supports Jiaoqui and the upcoming Fugue) than a DPS unit (main or sub), so I can see why he 'skipped' her for this video.
It’s really too bad that most of these dps units aren’t even worth going for their E1 or their S1 when the next shiny dps just powercreeps them at E0 💀
I would say it is still worth it if you love the character and there are still ways to make them relevant like pulling for strong supports. In my case for example, I pulled s1 Ratio back then coz I love him then pulled for Robin and now he's still great even after a year since his release. I'd say though it might not be the cause for every past (and maybe future) dps'es.
To be fair that is also the point of the video. In several cases, S1 is actually repurposable in the later units (see Topaz's, Ratio's, or any of the Erudition LCs), whereas E1 as you said just... stays there.
Thanks to the person who suggested this video! As someone who is tired of building characters in HSR *bc the traces alone take so damn long to max), I just want to invest in characters to fill the path/element until I have everyone I need (and faves too, ofc, but that's irrelevant), so seeing whether to go for eidolons or the light cone for a character I have is very helpful
I'm so happy I finally got my e1s0 Acheron to e2 and her LC this time. She got even stronger now and I believe she will still perform great in the future. I already have many dps and team comps for every situation already that I don't think I will have a need to pull for every new dps that's why investing for my Acheron more is a good decision I made.
Fr, im also start investing for Acheron. She would get a buff if Ultimate buffer character released, a consistent Debuff applier sustainer and DoT based character too
@guobacertified Thanks that Eidolon really makes a huge difference with team flexibility and build. Especially with the buff from the E1 and Izumo 2pc set 😁
Very informative, thanks! I'd love to see a support version, and possibly a recap at the end of the video? I wasn't sure whether you were recommending an LC or Eidolon on some units.
such a great video, it can resume a huge part of guides. :) and one of this vids of many creators who talk about lightcones and a lot of differing opinions which is great. :)))), now we shall lie dormant rest until sunday guide and sustains and supports lc. also an interesting thing for jade, if u want or mainly use her in pf then s1 is very worth it but if u want to use her everywhere then e1
Honestly I think it make more sense to pull copies on Supports/sustains vs DPS units. Pulled E1 Lingsha and E4 S1 Aventurine. My two main DPS are Firefly and Feixiao and they do the job just fine E0 Next character I plan on pulling copies of? taking Robin from E0 to E1 and Taking Sunday straight to E1 minimum
I often don't have funds to go for e1 or s1 unless I specifically grind for them so I don't have much experience. THAT SAID I do not regret grinding to get e1 Firefly one bit. It's so nice for clearing up her skill point usage, which helps so much when it comes to her teammates.
my fave e1 in the game rn is definitely Jade’s! it really is a game changer for her and i love the flexibility it adds to her team building :) rn my go-to team has been Jade, Feixiao, Robin, Lingsha and it’s been super fun to play and keeping with the follow-up theme, my fave s1 is Topaz’s! it’s got such great versatility that i briefly considered pulling an extra copy buuuut my queen Fugue is coming so i’ll just have to wait for another rerun 🙏✨
@ i have just her sig. but knowing ratio sig will age better and e1 + cruising wouldve been better anyways hit me with some major hindsight “what couldve been”
@@lordradiance2530 as someone else who pulled for her LC, it’s super comfy for her. I’m aware it’s not gonna be as good on other units, granted. I missed Topaz, and have been mostly playing her with March, so I don’t have any real source of debuffs for Ratio’s LC. All this to say, let your decisions be your own, and never give in to FOMO. You’ve got a really strong LC as it is. And personally, my Feixiao is nuking things so hard I’m not worried about E1 anytime soon.
I have Firefly lightcone, and I think the speed reduction came really helpful once against Hoolay. Otherwise it has nice art. My Firefly team does a lot of damage that the enemy toughness doesn't come back. The team consists of E0S1 Firefly E0S0 Ruan Mei E6 HMC and back then E6 Gallagher. Now I use E0S0 Lingsha.
Yunli e1s1 is nutty af And she performs perfectly in any content Personally i always go for e0s1 since looks cute to have their signature LC on my fav babes and ofc their LC is always the best choice
I'm real glad I went for Firefly's E1, otherwise I'd be in real trouble using her team. Gonna grab her E2 next rerun. I also initially only planned to get Acheron's S1, but I unexpectedly pulled a double Acheron near 80 pity, and after winning the 50/50 for Luocha afterwards around 75 pity, I got her E2 at 20 pity. Definitely my best pulling session in any Hoyo game I've played, no question.
Im hoping to get E0 firefly and will definitely be trying for E1. My Aeon LC is available because the only other destruction i mainly use is yunli and I alr have her sig. (Thank you for the yunli guide btw)
Took me a solid 10 seconds to figure out why Guoba would say "Maybe after Sunday" instead of "Maybe next week" for when the Support/Sustain vid will come out. I are smart.
the a future video Robin E1 is absolutely insane this lets her buff All type res pen during her ultimate While her Lightcone gives more opportunities for her to get her ultimate up and running along with an atk boost and a dmg boost for 1 turn when the ultimate is hit. The all type res pen is 24% and her E2 gives another 16% spd during the concerto state. The only other unit that buffs all type res pen during ultimate is Ruan Mei
This is another confirmation from me that Rappa S1 is a better choice! And, her ultimate uptime after using it is not a problem at all once she can get access to Exo-Toughness outside of MoC buff due to her passive that gains 10 energy every time an enemy weakness is broken, so her E1 is not that much of an upgrade. If there are characters in the future who have Exo-Toughness it would move Rappa to another tier in all mode for sure.
This guide really helping me out since im the kind of guy who really need to manage my pull but can't really calculate the number differences between each character LC and Eidolon value 😂. I really hope to see the same video for support and sustain character❤
Deciding where Fall Of An Aeon should go between Imbibitor Lunae, Jingliu, and Firefly remains the biggest issue for my account... Here's hoping we eventually get 4* options for any of them, although I'm wishlisting Jingliu S1
@@giorgostrim3709 Think I've ultimately decided to throw Clara LC on Firefly, maybe as a permanent option. I'm pretty unlucky, so I don't have a single copy of Misha's LC
The only problem with the Fei Eido vs LC is that you use her with other hunt characters and there's only 1 stellar sea! Same for Topaz. You need at least 1 sig sometimes otherwise the drop off between Stellar and other options can be huge.
Across the three latest(?) Hoyoverse gachas, DH•IL is the only limited five-star whom I have any eidolons for, some wild luck of low-pity drops. This makes the Simulated Universe's, uh, space-cheese _super_ appealing to bump him to E2, if only for a little while~
Had a feeling Jade E1 would be recommended, it's crazy, though I sorta thing that the latter part should've been in her kit. Still, if you like using Jade the E1 is a very clear winner since it just makes her so much more flexible.
Was building pity for Aventurine on Rappa's banner and got another copy of her at 30 pulls (I won the 50/50). I already had e1s1, so seeing that anchored into my head that building pity is the worse idea ever because I didn't wanna spend.
e0s1 Yunli. That… honestly is all. When I first started in 2.1 (I’m F2P btw), I had a BIG hit streak where I won a bunch of 50/50’s in a row. The last character in this streak? Yunli. I had just pulled Ruan Mei and was planning to save for Jiaoqiu for my Acheron, BUT… I heard from some little birdies that JQ got nerfed. AND, when 2.4 came out, I just loved how Yunli played when I tried her showcase. I also had a guaranteed on LC banner after losing Topaz’s s1 (something that happened AGAIN when she reran with Lingsha😭) + like 88 pity on it. So… I decided to pull for Yunli and, when I did get her (despite me secretly sorta hoping I would lose it so I’d have a guaranteed for JQ), I immediately got her s1 too. HOLY moley. Waveman talks about Yunli in their “Jiaoqiu Theorem” video, and… she may not be the strongest, or the best. And she may fall off against enemies like Past Present Future show. But… she helped me get my first ever triple-12* of all three endgame modes this patch. And she’s so fun to play.. …worth every Stellar Jade spent.
i think a big part of e1 or s1 matters more is wether there is a good f2p lc or not, no matter how good the e1 is if there isnt a good f2p lc or the lc options are really inferior then it wouldnt matter since you will be losing so much damage
Patience is all You Need is so versatile for every Nihility that even getting a second copy isnt that bad of a choice (not that you need to have 2 ofc)
From I can tell from HSR Eidolons are a quality of life for the character or gives the character new way of using them Signature LCs are a damage/support increase to their specialty. A great example of this is Jade, E1 gives her more versatility and team variety, while S1 gives her more damage
Wait... Wait, wait... I always assumed Blade's E1 only boosted damage conditionally like Jingliu's. Obviously it's worse than S1 regardless, which I got back in his initial run, but I've always been sketchy on getting his Eidolons in a rerun given how niche the first one felt, even though he's one of my favorite units. I've been completely bamboozled... Great video, highly informative.
I already decided how to use my Pulls next. Like, if Lingsha isn't in 3.0 i'm going for Firefly's Sig Lightcone to hit the right Amount of BE on her. Later on, on her next Rerun, I'll go for her E1 as well for Ruan Mei's. I don't want to buy the Express Pass anymore and want to go F2P after the 5th and last time I bought it.
i was literally thinking about this couple days ago when i realized i'll be probably skipping 2.7 (depends on final Fugue version and reruns)... thanks!
as a very light spender.. I honestly feel like E0S1 is already a luxury.. although ive been quite lucky and am only missing an AOE team (which the free selector will get me himeko), and a DOT team. Im just trying to fill one team for every niche and then save for fate..
I JustoPulled her Lightcone This Time AND 100% Is the vest Decision i could take , More Ulti's AND More Damage Is Crazy how just the Come increase her DMG
worth mentioning that building pity is a myth, but if you’re going to do it anyway, its probably better to build pity on a character banner just in case you find yourself down to 0 pulls by the end of a patch, and really want the character in the next update
I went for E2 on Firefly, since the destruction light cone s5 in herta's shop does pretty much the same as her signature light cone, it's way more worth to go for E2 instead imo.
Quick question Guoba. Do you know how JQ LC performs on Black Swan when against enemies that are weak to Wind but not Lightning? I always thought her own signature would pull ahead when Kafka's damage drops but it would be great if you could share some number or offer some insight. Also how important it is to hit 140 EHR when playing BS with JQ LC? I am currently sitting around 125. Thanks a lot for the video!
Got e0s1 Jingliu, she’s so strong with her lightcone, idk maybe I got better at the game or her lc was really that good but I felt her power increase with every cell of my body
I actually accidentally got Acheron’s lc twice ( as in I did another 10 pull on her lc banner for fun and it was gold at like 10 pity ), so yeah that’s fun lol
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How long will we be able to take it in that game????
Best sponsor ngl! This game's so solid and polished.
Last time I was this early, Akivili was still alive.
💀
THEY were but a newborn
Akivili IS still alive… I had lunch with THEM at Pier Point just a few weeks ago…
@@shrekatemyonionsThat was Aha in disguise 😭
So never?
9:30 "From Blade to the person Blade stabbed to the person who stabbed Blade to something much worse... a tax collector" IM CRYINGGGG
me who always goes for lightcones for instead of eidolons bc its aesthetically pleasing
Like NFTs but they boost your DPS :)
always s1 for drip, doesn't matter if their LC isn't optimal as long as you can flex that you have it :p
Also a bit cheaper on the pulls and safer to get cause of the higher drop rate as compared to the 50/50 on Characters
Plus my 4 stars can now use the herta shop ones
@@jeological5394 I also realize that LC maybe not as strong as Eidolon but they come with free stats so it's easier and more comfortable to build character
My favorite is probably E1 Firefly. Not having to worry about SP is such a game changer. I really couldn't imagine not having it anymore.
Yes!
I'm so close to E2. Firefly will be my first limited banner E2 in a Gacha. (Besides Ayato that I got on accident)
It didn't matter for her flagship team, but it makes such a difference once you swap out Gallagher and suddenly aren't generating 1.6 sp per rotation
Yeee, I pull VERY few cones/eidolons as I'm ~95% F2P but that E1 was just simply too good. Everyone on her team can just spam skills. Hatblazer gets to skill every turn, gets tons of energy, deals a good amount of damage, and since I gave her Ruan Mei's cone for ult spam she fuels even _more_ SP for even more skill spam.
With Gallagher on the team, an E0 firefly comp is still so SP positive
This kind of video would be very cool for supports and sustain since they are the true meta in hsr
@@julioramirez8179 most sustains aren't worth vertically investing in unless they have something crazy like Lingsha E1 or maybe Huohuo E1, but otherwise not worth it
@@ChainsSSBtrue, it’s the supports whose E1 are more worth going for, most especially Robin’s E1
After Sunday then sound good? ;D
@@guobacertified what about fugue then :sadge:
Really like that you acknowledged that signature lightcones are statistically cheaper to get than eidolons, I feel like many players don't seem to acknowledge this when promoting pulling for eidolons over sigs. Keep being an unbiased king
S1 is two copies of LC no?
@@NoName-sh5xeS1 means 1 copy of a lightcone, 2 copies mean s2
@@NoName-sh5xe characters start with 0 eidolons so thats e0, however lightcones start with 1 superimpose thus called as s1, having a e0s1 char means 0 eidolon only char and their lightcone without copies
I really appreciate you taking into account the odds of getting E1 vs S1, not many youtubers do this.
Hope it helps peeps out!
1:11 Xiangling jumpscare, you can never escape from her even outside of Genshin
I KNOW RIGHT WHEN I SAW HER IN GAME I HAD TO PUT IT IN THE VID
Pyro too, that's hilarious
These type of videos are always welcomed for f2p and low spenders; so more like them would be greatly appreciated!
It brings a tear to my eye, how beautiful this video is!
no u
I'd definitely appreciate a video like this for supports and sustains
How I usually choose between E1 and S1 is whichever has something more than just personal damage amp. Like Kafka's S1 has more speed and an extra dot, Firefly's E1 makes her skill not cost SP, Jade E1, Rappa S1, etc.
Yep, I definitely value ones that change gameplay over just higher numbers.
Jade rerun waiting room, I wanted her E1 🔥
after having acheron for 8 months without her lc picking up her s1 was the biggest upgrade ever fs i got foxboy too so she will still clear content for awhile
You forgot to mention the biggest pro of Ratio sig: the art is amazing
I mainly pulled it because of that lmao same with IL's, their art is just so peak
TRUEEEEEEEE
As if they ever made non amazing arts, lightcones look literally prettier than the characters themselves sometimes
TRUUUUE
This was a fun video, I've been toying with a similar idea, "the best limited light cones for characters besides their singature" to just rank the cones that have the most broadly applicable effects for multiple characters.
wait i needed this video so bad, thank you !!
I'm sure we all wanted something like this! Please do videos like this for sustains and supports as well!
Something important to note about Kafka's signature lightcone, it literally is one of the few universally good lightcones on Nihility units. Speed is always good for applying debuffs more consistently, and also getting more turns, and generating more skillpoints/ult energy. And it's one of the only lightcones (apart from the well known Resolution Shines as Pearls) with a builtin extra debuff/DoT, which is important if you're trying to hit certain thresholds of debuffs/DoTs, such as for characters wearing Pioneer Diver relic set or Dr. Ratio's 3 debuff threshold.
I generally feel it's the Nihility equivalent of Hunt's Topaz signature lightcone "Worrisome, Blissful", as in it's really damn well rounded and one of the few lightcones that may actually be worth pulling even if you don't pull the character. You don't _need_ Topaz, since March7thHunt or Moze can be a bit less powerful, but pretty close as a sub Hunt DPS, but Topaz's lightcone is just super versatile on her or on most any other Hunt character. And the same thing goes for Kafka's lightcone. Even if you don't want to pull for Kafka because DoT teams aren't "meta", Kafka's lightcone works well on basically any subdps Nihility. Luka, Sampo, Guinaifen, Jiaoqiu, Welt, even Acheron herself.
Also, you skipped Silver Wolf, whose LC is also worth looking at as well, for the same reasons as Kafka's LC.
SW leans more towards being a debuff support (like her fellow 5-star Nihil-supports Jiaoqui and the upcoming Fugue) than a DPS unit (main or sub), so I can see why he 'skipped' her for this video.
"You'd only need to win a 75/25"
Nah, i'd lose
thanx so much for the comprehensive guide, helps me a lot in my planning for future E1 or S1 pulls for my Firefly, Feixiao and Topaz :)
It’s really too bad that most of these dps units aren’t even worth going for their E1 or their S1 when the next shiny dps just powercreeps them at E0 💀
hope it settles down a bit going into 3.x :)
Holy real. Nobody even remains top dog long enough before their first rerun is due (except some supports).
I would say it is still worth it if you love the character and there are still ways to make them relevant like pulling for strong supports. In my case for example, I pulled s1 Ratio back then coz I love him then pulled for Robin and now he's still great even after a year since his release. I'd say though it might not be the cause for every past (and maybe future) dps'es.
That is false
To be fair that is also the point of the video.
In several cases, S1 is actually repurposable in the later units (see Topaz's, Ratio's, or any of the Erudition LCs), whereas E1 as you said just... stays there.
Thanks to the person who suggested this video! As someone who is tired of building characters in HSR *bc the traces alone take so damn long to max), I just want to invest in characters to fill the path/element until I have everyone I need (and faves too, ofc, but that's irrelevant), so seeing whether to go for eidolons or the light cone for a character I have is very helpful
I'm so happy I finally got my e1s0 Acheron to e2 and her LC this time. She got even stronger now and I believe she will still perform great in the future. I already have many dps and team comps for every situation already that I don't think I will have a need to pull for every new dps that's why investing for my Acheron more is a good decision I made.
Yepp E2 S1 Acheron makes her a completely different character opens any harmony characters to use with her and is just so smooth to play it’s great.
Fr, im also start investing for Acheron. She would get a buff if Ultimate buffer character released, a consistent Debuff applier sustainer and DoT based character too
@@rizkyhidayat147*cough* Jiaoqiu *cough*
I have 0 regrets going for E2 Acheron last week especially having built the team for it 😁👌
Amazing eidolon :) gratz
@guobacertified Thanks that Eidolon really makes a huge difference with team flexibility and build. Especially with the buff from the E1 and Izumo 2pc set 😁
Great video!
Very informative, thanks! I'd love to see a support version, and possibly a recap at the end of the video? I wasn't sure whether you were recommending an LC or Eidolon on some units.
such a great video, it can resume a huge part of guides. :) and one of this vids of many creators who talk about lightcones and a lot of differing opinions which is great. :)))), now we shall lie dormant rest until sunday guide and sustains and supports lc. also an interesting thing for jade, if u want or mainly use her in pf then s1 is very worth it but if u want to use her everywhere then e1
Sunday is nearly upon us !
Can confirm. Jade e1 is probably my favorite eidolon in the game. That's coming from an Acheron and feixao e2s1 owner.
Jade E1 is so cool
Thanks for this, I already have Jade and her LC but I'm gonna go for her E1 when she reruns.
Honestly I think it make more sense to pull copies on Supports/sustains vs DPS units.
Pulled E1 Lingsha and E4 S1 Aventurine.
My two main DPS are Firefly and Feixiao and they do the job just fine E0
Next character I plan on pulling copies of? taking Robin from E0 to E1 and Taking Sunday straight to E1 minimum
This was such a great vid! Thanks :)
We need this kind of vid every once in a while Guoba. Great vid btw🔥
What a dapper lil Guoba we have here! 👀✨
I often don't have funds to go for e1 or s1 unless I specifically grind for them so I don't have much experience. THAT SAID I do not regret grinding to get e1 Firefly one bit. It's so nice for clearing up her skill point usage, which helps so much when it comes to her teammates.
my fave e1 in the game rn is definitely Jade’s! it really is a game changer for her and i love the flexibility it adds to her team building :) rn my go-to team has been Jade, Feixiao, Robin, Lingsha and it’s been super fun to play
and keeping with the follow-up theme, my fave s1 is Topaz’s! it’s got such great versatility that i briefly considered pulling an extra copy buuuut my queen Fugue is coming so i’ll just have to wait for another rerun 🙏✨
Thanks for making this educational video, never realized how useful a video like this could be lol ❤❤
The despair absolutely set in my face hearing the feixiao segment when i heard e1 is better and ratio sig is just as good
Why the despair? do you have her sig and raio sig while not having E1?
@ i have just her sig. but knowing ratio sig will age better and e1 + cruising wouldve been better anyways hit me with some major hindsight “what couldve been”
It's okay Ratio is not gonna rerun for the next 2000 years anyway lol
@@lordradiance2530 as someone else who pulled for her LC, it’s super comfy for her. I’m aware it’s not gonna be as good on other units, granted.
I missed Topaz, and have been mostly playing her with March, so I don’t have any real source of debuffs for Ratio’s LC.
All this to say, let your decisions be your own, and never give in to FOMO. You’ve got a really strong LC as it is. And personally, my Feixiao is nuking things so hard I’m not worried about E1 anytime soon.
@@PenguinWithInternetAccess this is actually my cope lol, at least 3 patches without ratio sig is kinda a lot
I have Firefly lightcone, and I think the speed reduction came really helpful once against Hoolay. Otherwise it has nice art. My Firefly team does a lot of damage that the enemy toughness doesn't come back. The team consists of E0S1 Firefly E0S0 Ruan Mei E6 HMC and back then E6 Gallagher. Now I use E0S0 Lingsha.
Thank you for the vid. I really needed this.
Now waiting for the supports 😍
Yunli e1s1 is nutty af
And she performs perfectly in any content
Personally i always go for e0s1 since looks cute to have their signature LC on my fav babes and ofc their LC is always the best choice
Facts, for me the only exception is firefly, E1 >>> S1 just because not consuming sp is so damn juicy
I'm real glad I went for Firefly's E1, otherwise I'd be in real trouble using her team. Gonna grab her E2 next rerun.
I also initially only planned to get Acheron's S1, but I unexpectedly pulled a double Acheron near 80 pity, and after winning the 50/50 for Luocha afterwards around 75 pity, I got her E2 at 20 pity. Definitely my best pulling session in any Hoyo game I've played, no question.
Yes! Please do this for supports as well.
Nice video! How about Supports next? That would be helpful, and really cool!
sounds gud
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One interesting idea for a video is to compare supports eidolons to carries eidolons.
Im hoping to get E0 firefly and will definitely be trying for E1.
My Aeon LC is available because the only other destruction i mainly use is yunli and I alr have her sig. (Thank you for the yunli guide btw)
e1 ff is so comfy to use and u can pretty much always skill with mc. (from e2 ff haver)
Great video as usual!
I have an idea for another one - rank all Eidolons (E0-E6) of all standard banner characters ^-^
Took me a solid 10 seconds to figure out why Guoba would say "Maybe after Sunday" instead of "Maybe next week" for when the Support/Sustain vid will come out. I are smart.
YESSSS another guoba upload
Yes he's back, back again and again
Damn, I really like background ost you used in this video
I'm so thankful I pulled for Dr. Ratio's lightcone. I can use Stellar Sea on Moze and have an amazingly consistent team.
Great video, very informative
i wasnt able to get her lightcone before but now im going for it,
the a future video Robin E1 is absolutely insane this lets her buff All type res pen during her ultimate
While her Lightcone gives more opportunities for her to get her ultimate up and running along with an atk boost and a dmg boost for 1 turn when the ultimate is hit. The all type res pen is 24% and her E2 gives another 16% spd during the concerto state. The only other unit that buffs all type res pen during ultimate is Ruan Mei
Expertly created video guoba
ty bestie
You should make a video about DPS Fu Xuan. I was able to get a 10-cycle clear with her using superbreak against the quantum weak side of MoC 11.
This is another confirmation from me that Rappa S1 is a better choice!
And, her ultimate uptime after using it is not a problem at all once she can get access to Exo-Toughness outside of MoC buff due to her passive that gains 10 energy every time an enemy weakness is broken, so her E1 is not that much of an upgrade.
If there are characters in the future who have Exo-Toughness it would move Rappa to another tier in all mode for sure.
Well I have some news for you
wraaahhhh 1 at night here, but guoba my beloved must watch must stay awake for this
Sleep well!
more of these kinds of vids would be awesome (i'd still pull the LC cuzz it saves me from trying to be lucky with some garbo LC but still)
This guide really helping me out since im the kind of guy who really need to manage my pull but can't really calculate the number differences between each character LC and Eidolon value 😂. I really hope to see the same video for support and sustain character❤
Deciding where Fall Of An Aeon should go between Imbibitor Lunae, Jingliu, and Firefly remains the biggest issue for my account... Here's hoping we eventually get 4* options for any of them, although I'm wishlisting Jingliu S1
Firefly could use the Misha lightcone and Brighter than the sun is always viable. But yeah destruction doesnt have that many good lightcones.
@@giorgostrim3709 Think I've ultimately decided to throw Clara LC on Firefly, maybe as a permanent option. I'm pretty unlucky, so I don't have a single copy of Misha's LC
The only problem with the Fei Eido vs LC is that you use her with other hunt characters and there's only 1 stellar sea! Same for Topaz. You need at least 1 sig sometimes otherwise the drop off between Stellar and other options can be huge.
Across the three latest(?) Hoyoverse gachas, DH•IL is the only limited five-star whom I have any eidolons for, some wild luck of low-pity drops. This makes the Simulated Universe's, uh, space-cheese _super_ appealing to bump him to E2, if only for a little while~
Had a feeling Jade E1 would be recommended, it's crazy, though I sorta thing that the latter part should've been in her kit. Still, if you like using Jade the E1 is a very clear winner since it just makes her so much more flexible.
When naming your suggestion, it might be nice to highlight/focus the choice or desaturate/blur the other option, could give more oomph to the visuals.
Good idea!
Guoba posting ? Hit me up
Was building pity for Aventurine on Rappa's banner and got another copy of her at 30 pulls (I won the 50/50). I already had e1s1, so seeing that anchored into my head that building pity is the worse idea ever because I didn't wanna spend.
Liked the video before I even watched it~
e0s1 Yunli. That… honestly is all.
When I first started in 2.1 (I’m F2P btw), I had a BIG hit streak where I won a bunch of 50/50’s in a row. The last character in this streak? Yunli. I had just pulled Ruan Mei and was planning to save for Jiaoqiu for my Acheron, BUT… I heard from some little birdies that JQ got nerfed. AND, when 2.4 came out, I just loved how Yunli played when I tried her showcase. I also had a guaranteed on LC banner after losing Topaz’s s1 (something that happened AGAIN when she reran with Lingsha😭) + like 88 pity on it. So… I decided to pull for Yunli and, when I did get her (despite me secretly sorta hoping I would lose it so I’d have a guaranteed for JQ), I immediately got her s1 too.
HOLY moley. Waveman talks about Yunli in their “Jiaoqiu Theorem” video, and… she may not be the strongest, or the best. And she may fall off against enemies like Past Present Future show. But… she helped me get my first ever triple-12* of all three endgame modes this patch. And she’s so fun to play..
…worth every Stellar Jade spent.
JQ got nerfed but still in tier 0.5 and the best Nihility for Acheron, so he was at least worth pulling for her
Going for yunli e1, she’s my favorite character and her e1 makes her very strong
GL!
I always go e0s1 regardless of what anyone would tell me.
The characters, otherwise, will feel "naked" to me.
I do this in all other Gachas as well.
i think a big part of e1 or s1 matters more is wether there is a good f2p lc or not, no matter how good the e1 is if there isnt a good f2p lc or the lc options are really inferior then it wouldnt matter since you will be losing so much damage
For me everyone else is e0 (who is not standard banner) but I will never regret pulling for e1 Firefly and her light cone! She is my girl and Waifu!😍😍
Patience is all You Need is so versatile for every Nihility that even getting a second copy isnt that bad of a choice (not that you need to have 2 ofc)
From I can tell from HSR
Eidolons are a quality of life for the character or gives the character new way of using them
Signature LCs are a damage/support increase to their specialty.
A great example of this is Jade, E1 gives her more versatility and team variety, while S1 gives her more damage
Wait... Wait, wait... I always assumed Blade's E1 only boosted damage conditionally like Jingliu's. Obviously it's worse than S1 regardless, which I got back in his initial run, but I've always been sketchy on getting his Eidolons in a rerun given how niche the first one felt, even though he's one of my favorite units. I've been completely bamboozled... Great video, highly informative.
Ash Echoes mentioned POG, I really like their male playable roster so far
"From Blade, to the person Blade stabbed, to the person that stabbed Blade" 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
21 mins of guoba lets go
I already decided how to use my Pulls next. Like, if Lingsha isn't in 3.0 i'm going for Firefly's Sig Lightcone to hit the right Amount of BE on her. Later on, on her next Rerun, I'll go for her E1 as well for Ruan Mei's. I don't want to buy the Express Pass anymore and want to go F2P after the 5th and last time I bought it.
i was literally thinking about this couple days ago when i realized i'll be probably skipping 2.7 (depends on final Fugue version and reruns)... thanks!
1:11 demonstrating her mastery over both pyro and polearms,
Me with e6 s5: “very informative video 🧐”
yes pleaseeeee eagerly awaiting the support counterpart to this vid!
also do you ever plan to bring back the path reviews you started in early 2.x?
Idk, they took a WHILE lol especially with the guobas , maybe after rest of patch is done
Looking foward the aventurine e1 s1 comparison
10:54
And it shows Topaz' feet. That is the crucial point here
as a very light spender.. I honestly feel like E0S1 is already a luxury.. although ive been quite lucky and am only missing an AOE team (which the free selector will get me himeko), and a DOT team.
Im just trying to fill one team for every niche and then save for fate..
As a F2P, I went for E2S1 FF during her debut. No regrets
I JustoPulled her Lightcone This Time AND 100% Is the vest Decision i could take , More Ulti's AND More Damage Is Crazy how just the Come increase her DMG
worth mentioning that building pity is a myth, but if you’re going to do it anyway, its probably better to build pity on a character banner just in case you find yourself down to 0 pulls by the end of a patch, and really want the character in the next update
I went for E2 on Firefly, since the destruction light cone s5 in herta's shop does pretty much the same as her signature light cone, it's way more worth to go for E2 instead imo.
Quick question Guoba. Do you know how JQ LC performs on Black Swan when against enemies that are weak to Wind but not Lightning? I always thought her own signature would pull ahead when Kafka's damage drops but it would be great if you could share some number or offer some insight. Also how important it is to hit 140 EHR when playing BS with JQ LC? I am currently sitting around 125. Thanks a lot for the video!
E1S1 topaz is really funny with ratio cause thats 3 debuffs from a single attack. Unlimited chalk :3
Getting a character is like ordering a fast food meal you can get an E1 like 2 burgers or E0S1 a burger and fries and a drink
Could you do this same style of list but instead of DPS its for supports? I dont know whether to go E1 or S1 for Ruan Mei and my other supports
Got e0s1 Jingliu, she’s so strong with her lightcone, idk maybe I got better at the game or her lc was really that good but I felt her power increase with every cell of my body
the only dps e1 I have is firefly (I have e2)
Not having to worry about skill points is such a bliss also e2 is busted asf yeah
I actually accidentally got Acheron’s lc twice ( as in I did another 10 pull on her lc banner for fun and it was gold at like 10 pity ), so yeah that’s fun lol