Sports betting is addicting to players, too.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ธ.ค. 2024
- Why player prop bets are the most dangerous things in sports.
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In April 2024, the NBA caught one of its own players gambling on himself - and few analysts were surprised. Sports gambling is booming and gambling companies are enjoying unprecedented cooperation with the sports leagues. But one of their most profitable types of bets has introduced an existential risk to sports; the player prop-bet. This video explains how these prop-bets make cheating so easy for players and how the Jontay Porter scandal could be the tip of the iceberg.
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Do a video of how money has ruined college football. Conference consolidation.
@@nudom12of12 Pretty much all of Adobe! After Effects for animation, Premiere for Editing, Photoshops and Illustrator for other design assets.
@@IOS336 Man this has been on my list since we launched. Would love to do it
@@SearchParty ohh man excited!!!
It's nice to see Sports leagues looking out for the best interest of their invaluable assets. Gambling companies.
Its in everyones best intrest. IT WAS HAPPENING ILLEGALLY BEFORE. BUT THAT WAS WITH MAFIA DUDES WHO WILL KILL YOU😅 some people just let what ever come out thier mouths with out any understanding.
"nice to see" is one way of putting it.
Advertising revenues talk
I think this is gonna be bad for the sports leagues in the long term. Before gambling was allowed fans already had suspicions of refs being crooked and certain teams being favored, allowing gambling will give us even more ammunition to throw these accusations whether it's real or not. The more people doubt the game's integrity, the lower the interest will be. Let's hope the sports leagues realize that before it's too late.
@@MustraOrdo "it's about time" is a better way to put it.
Sports betting has ruined watching sports with friends. We be watching a good ass game then someone will be constantly reminding you he needs someone to get 35 rush yards to hit their parlay
Agreed, now I can’t watch a game without person talking about their bets and/or fantasy team. I’ll watch alone now.
don’t watch sports with your betting friends then or tell them to stfu lol
This exact thing has been going on for decades though because of fantasy sports and is one of the main reasons I stopped playing.
I stopped betting because i noticed i was no longer enjoying games, but stressing out about the bets
Just wait til you find out about politicians fixing the stock market
They be making $2M+ a year on a $200K salary
@@Friday4 minimum
I came here to say the exact same thing. If that is deemed legal then so should betting in sports.
The league can choose to not allow the betting itself if they are actually concerned
Literally the same thing as the politicians, crazy
@@kushagraN based
Integrity goes out the window when money comes through the door.
Actually, money incentivizes the leauges to crack down on this stuff and gives them the tools to prove it. Way harder to cheat when the lights are on and everyones watching and you can follow the dollars. Draftkings, all these betting sites actually is called regulation. This was an underground market that brought 0 into the sports that funded it. Now its on the table easily traceable. Yall got stuff all kinds wacked.
So sports have zero integrity to begin with according to this logic
This!!! ⬆️
Not quite because it depends on what kind of person one truly is. A real person with integrity (rare to find unfortunately) would not accept any amount if it means compromising said integrity.
@MustraOrdo mostly rare
This is going on on all major sporting events. It’s absolutely ridiculous. It really needs to be cracking down on
Except it's always been a part of sports so what are you talking about
@@AllenChevalier1Sure sports betting has always been a part of sports, but it’s definitely more mainstream these days. Just look at all the advertising and sponsoring or how in recent years athletes that already make a very decent living are still willing to risk everything by gambling. There is definitely an issue. Not to mention the hypocrisy of having betting sponsors everywhere while at the same time sporting bodies are giving very harsh punishments to athletes.
@AP-o2 always has and we are now just seeing
It was always will be a part of sports too. Don't forget sports are a privilege.
@@AP-o2the hyporacy is what I can't stand.
Athlete betting on sports- "Worst thing ever! Suspended for life!"
Athlete beating their girl -"Eh, it happens. 4 game suspension."
Very true and definitely side eyeing the NBA for this.
Literally Mason Greenwood vs Toney and Paqueta
Betting on sports won't get you a lifetime ban. Betting on your own prop under will
@@BitcoinMotorist I would think physical bearings are worse than this, but the leagues don't agree.
Okay, TERF, tell it to abusive false accusation victims like Trevor Bauer.
I live in Brazil, and I can confirm sports bets have ruined our football and the people. You have people betting with their social aid program money… like wtf hahahah.
The truth is any player can throw a game to win a bet once in their career and never get caught because it’s only the pattern of repeat throwing of games that exposes it. It’s like a free money grab, especially if they don't tell anyone?
Serious question. Whats stopping the nba playing from using a friend or family member for betting and spiltting profits? Technically they arent betting
This being released on Pete Rose day is poetic ❤
omfg u said what i was thinkin. long live the hit king ❤
gambling should be more regulated by the government. but the government is in the pockets of the corpos
But this video pointed out that the corpos addressed this issue, the corpo takes losses when this. Happens. Cuz they pay out a higher amount if something was highly unlikley to happen. The gov. Can stay out of sports. They have thier own governing bodies. Please pay attention and stay on task.
True
@@jimboshrumpwhy do you feel the need to shill for billion dollar corporations that squeeze money out of poor people? They're basically drug dealers and you're defending them. Why?
Personally I believe gambling should be a family activity
@@jimboshrumpyou don’t understand a crucial aspect of this. It degrades the trust in the sport and as the leagues are afraid of, can damage the sport. If there’s multiple scandals involving a sport, fans start to question whether any game is even unbiased
Hanse Cronje is probably the most infamous sportpersons to do it tbh. Dude was the captain of the South African cricket team in the late 90s/early noughties, was in with the bookies, got expensive leather jackets as gifts from them, fixed matches and once infamously convinced his opponents to basically forfeit half of the game and disguised it as "thinking out of the box".
Long story short, he was convincted, banned for life and died in a mysterious plane crash not long after.
There's a name I haven't heard in a long axx time.
US sports fans should Google SA vs Eng 0/0 test match.
Hansie Cronje was such a weird case - he played so hard, and only received gifts and tiny amounts of money to fix prop bets
The era of fixing in cricket peaked during late nighties. Cricketers from different countries got exposed
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Quite frankly I am disgusted as to how gambling has perpetuated professional sports. What's worse is that the industry is endorsed by the very leagues these sports are in!
Jontay Porter threw away potentially millions of dollars to make 20k sports betting lol
Pete Rose got screwed. He got banned for life for betting on his own team to win. So it's not like he was trying to throw games.
It doesn't matter if he wins or loses if you are caught messing with the integrity of the game, like banned your banned for life.
The biggest sponsors are BETTING COMPANIES, this will never stop, forgot the leagues doing something about this
You guys should also make a video about how sports betting is taking over the same space as people investing in the stock market. When you get data from how much people were spending on the stock market during the pandemic and how much people are spending on sports betting you'll see an overlap.
In Brazil they found out a surprising amount of people who were spending their government help money on sports betting instead of food and other necessities. It's becoming a serious problem not only for sports.
Here in Brazil people have spent billions this year of government aid money in these apps, a tragedy. The lower classes gets these promises of easy money (obviously a lie), while the bet companies profit astronomically and some football (maybe soccer for you) ruin the games by gambles of getting a red or yellow card, own goal... In Brazil casinos are forbidden, the bets also were, until a previous government changed and they area dominating sponsors in games. Now the government is looking for regulatory measures, since all these bets are foreign (they cannot be from here, for is forbidden), that is, money leaving the country in a billion scale.
Perhaps an injury should nullify any prop bets and result in the participants getting refunds instead of payouts. Make the conditions something like, "will get at least 4.5 rebounds across a minimum of 20 minutes of playtime."
How then do you define an injury?
It doesnt matter, by using the amount of playtime as your metric you remove anything subjective @@akarvelas
Got an sport betting ad for this video 😂😂😂
This is such an important topic! Player prop bets definitely raise serious ethical concerns. It's crucial for leagues to address these risks to maintain the integrity of sports. Thanks for shedding light on this issue!
Coming from Europe where sports betting has been legal basicslly forever, I find it interesting watching the US go through transition.
Fascinating insight into betting!! Just shows even the stars we watch aren’t immune to it
Did anyone not see this coming? On the other side of this, players are having to put up with “fans” who feel the player let them down by not hitting some level of performance in a particular game. It is already getting out of hand!
You made California green on the map to indicate that betting is legal there, but I’m pretty sure it’s still illegal.
There's a loophole somewhere.
I saw a Draft King's Gift card at my local 7-11 right next to V-bucks and Robux which was pretty funny ngl.
As a European watching this video it makes sad and laugh a little bit since in europe its sooooo usual for teams and players to fix matches especially in the lower divisions
I mean, what did you expect when sports gambling was legalized by the supreme court? Watching this video with shocked pikachu face.
Sports gambling is legal in most of the world it doesn't hurt fans interest in the games so it won't in the US.
@@Ushio01Just wait till the rise in gambling addicts & broken families. You Americans never do anything in moderation. The house always wins which are big firms owned by same people. There’s very little wider positive societal impact. Even in Britain we’ve heavily legislated the industry to protect gamblers & limit commercials. Something you guys never will do due to lobbyist power. Just look at how over past year it’s become a trend to bet on current affairs for fun. It all adds up and ruins countless life’s. Funniest thing is how all your big betting companies are full of Brits in NYC teaching you guys how to score a nation.
@@Ushio01that's really easy for you to say how millions of americans will react to messing with their favorite sport..... i havent been watching sports live since 2018
@@elijahloby5400 Based on viewership figures sports viewing is at record highs.
I have worked most of my life in this industry and whilst this is a decent piece the legalisation has meant that the oversight and transparency is better than ever now. It’s very hard to get away with it nowadays
1:46 bittersweet seeing this since he just passed yesterday. Very awful thing to do but that terrible blemish aside, Pete Rose was a hard worker and did a lot of good for Cincy.
Take a look at the English Premier League and players like Ivan Toney & Harry Toffolo.
And Lucas Paqueta and Sandro Tonali and Nicolo Fagioli and Joey Barton and Daniel Sturridge… list goes on.
Just shows how much of an addiction it is. None of these guys need the money & most aren’t fixing the game, they’re just addicted & losing money, usually on games they aren’t even in. So many examples of footballers who blew all their money during & after their careers. Sad af
Once it hits home, people will start realizing this happens at Wall Street as well. As long as companies can lobby in Congress, as long as sportsbook keep working with the sport associations, you are gonna have this problem.
I’m convinced that game 1 Breanna Stewart didn’t go for rebounds so she wouldn’t get a double double. She has a 7’1” wingspan and didn’t even raise her hands under the basket. She absolutely demolished point wise. And at least on FanDuel a double double/no double double for that game was one of the “hottest” parlay combinations. She ended the OVERTIME game with only 9 rebounds and I believe 9 assists. It was sus (but that might just be me mad it was the only thing that broke my 7 leg parlay that woulda given me $250 off of $5)
Shane Pinto got a half year suspension for gambling conflicts.
NHL has a problem as well
Ill never understand the appeal of gambling.
There's not much of an appeal....
Ask a smoker why they like cigarettes... They'll probably say they don't.. They're addicted..
It’s thrilling to win
Human brains aren't built to intuitively understand extreme odds, so if a gamble is a .000001% chance we have a hard time emotionally differentiating that from a 1% or more reasonable odds, even when we logically know we'll never win.
Most gambling is set up so you win some and lose more, so people get hooked on the feeling of the wins more than the losses. Sure they know most people will lose much more in the long term, but stories of people who win or justifications like pretending you'll stop when you're ahead, or that 'someone has to win, why not me' let people keep going.
And desperation is a huge driver; cost of living and assets have significantly outdated wage growth, so many people get desperate and feel that if they're going to be broke anyway it's worth taking a chance to become rich. If you feel like a gamble is the only way to pay off debt, or get medical care, or ever afford a home then it might seem worth it. (Tbc they're wrong, I'm not tryna defend it, just that's what people think/ feel. Addiction isn't driven by logical calculations but by our monkey brains not being designed for complex society and desperation)
It's hilarious to see the US 'just' discover online gambling, then acting like these kinds of things are a new thing. EU sportsmen have been getting caught doing this for a couple of decades...
3:31 Lol imagine if Sam made this video and DraftKings were the sponsors
Edit: He went undercover which is so cool
Draft kings pointed the issue out, draft kings loses money when people cheat, do you blame cars for accidents or the person driving it?
I mean, this is a false argument
In your analogy it would be like if cars had built in martini dispensers.
It's still the person's fault, but holy shit the company making the product shouldn't be enabling them
Lucas Paquetá says hello lol
Paquebet
@@v1kzu Tonali & Ivan toney have entered the chat 😅😅
Great video. I’ve always thought prop bets were dangerous for the reasons discussed in the video. Most of the betting outside of just the score / outcome really lends itself to being easily manipulated by players
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great vid !!! only as a european viewer i cannot say that without sports betting, american sports would truly be about winning. draft picks still create an incentive for bad teams to lose on purpose, or at the very least: not try as hard to win
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1:47 Pete Rose only gambled on his team to win.. big difference there
god damn these vids are so high quality
I love how the ad was easily integrated 😊
It is fascinating how the sports revenue landscape plays against the death spiral in journalism. We need to save news or risk opaque framing in all aspects.
2:24 You could curiously use that while tanking to get the money you need to rebuilt (after some money laudering in this case)
No sports betting apps should be legal for anyone. Like it was pre-2018
hard disagree
@@olpporsetty shut up buzzer
Do you think everything with the potential of causing harm should be outlawed?
You’ll only realise your mistake a few decades down the line. An entire generation of addicts & broken families later. Unlike other countries where it’s been legal for ages, you guys will refuse to legislate to protect consumers cause the industry will buy off all politicians via lobbying power. Good luck. You guys have alreadly shocked the world by wide spread betting on current affairs. Only you yanks would do that lol. Good luck chaps. You’ll. need if
Not possible, however I think betting on college sports and players who play under a required amount of plays/minutes in a game
8:37 or the UFC which you completely missed out on given that was a huge issue too.
Prop bet Parlays are all I do. But I only bet the over. I have rooting against people.
What's the appeal?
@@thetshirtblog I want all players to score and do well. And it doesn’t matter who wins as long as they score and get decent stats.
@@stizanley3987we need this guy as world leader
you can tell they are law breakers by looking at them.. even the referees gamble.. at least our legends like Michael Jordan aren't gambling addicts
lmao!!! Good one!
This has been made blatantly obvious in recent years NFL games. Mahomes just did it a week ago, with the bet being 50yds rushing. He was at 64yds heading into the last drive and he intentionally ran backwards to kneel the ball 3 separate times, leaving him with 48yds. They were ahead by a bunch, with the other team out of timeouts, so there was no reason to run backwards instead of just kneeling when the ball was hiked.
Lmao delusional
mahomes is so dummy rich why would he do that?
no sports bet should be legal
ruining an entire generation with this shit
Lmao grow up
bro i swear one of these 13 way parlays is going to pay off and i'm going to be a thousandaire i just have to wait for my weekly paycheck to come in
@cptnd3851 what else oh grand genius should we let the government take from us? Drinking smoking guns?
the Houston Astros admitted to BLATANT cheating.. they still kept the World Series and no one cares.. our kids learned cheaters make millions and win championships
i would 1000% promote my kids to cheat.. there are no real consequences
Oh boy… take it from a Brit…you guys don’t know what you unleashed. The negative impacts on society/addictions/tearing apart of families outweighs the few positives…the house always win making a few people filthy rich. And unlike the U.K. you guys will refuse to legislate to protect consumers due to lobbyist powers buying out your politicians. In 1 year you’ve outdone the rest of the world in a way only you guys could. The fact you now bet on current affairs as a popular trend says it all. You guys don’t do things half heartedly. You’ve only been allowed to gamble a year or 2 & you’ve somehow made it even worse. It’ll take a few years & then decades for you to realise what you’ve done.
To say nothing about how addictive sports gambling is.
Could’ve expanded on this by mentioning Sandro tonali, and all the Juventus players that were banned for betting
You should also do the same with gambling sponsors and European football leagues
Thank you samuel!
You're welcome, Michael
2:30 Dam Nevada really stuck it out
I hate gambling. I mean I’ll clean out all the casinos in New Vegas but real life gambling is ridiculous
The ultimate goal of gambling conpanies is to put slot machines on our phones with 0 barrier between impulse and spend.
The ability to do complex parlays on random players is a big step closer to that.
From my point of view as soon as companies start offering such ridiculous wagers players should be free to cheat them.
Throwing a game on purpose is bad but man imagine not even being legally allowed to stop scoring points or taking rebounds.
The irony of this being posted the day Pete Rose died is not lost
I place live bets and I’m not going to lie Toronto raptors games are just played way different then a normal nba game , I’m talking about scoring basket that don’t need to be scored , calling timeouts when the game is literally over , lines changes way too much compare to the other games. It’s just way to obvious but way to hard to know when is going to happen
There was an interesting video I saw about the culture of alcohol and gambling in the premier league. The idea that someone from a poor background is suddenly introduced and corrupted by running into enormous sums of money at a young age, while being surrounded by essentially 30 year old man-children who they are taught to idealize.
One of the best examples of this is snooker. The sports went to shxt after multiple gambling scandals. I personally stopped watching it because of the underlying question: "Did he throw the game for bets?".
It’s funny of the leagues tried to separate themselves from gambling for so long only to embrace it so thoroughly. I’m not a huge sports person and definitely not a gambling person but it’s interesting how potent a mix it is for folks.
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As a Raptors fan it’s really sad what happened to Jontay he had some potential to be a solid starter
You did make a logical and reasonable proposal. Prop bets can be limited to top stars. It wouldn't be hard, nor drop revenue very much. NBA should wake up. In a lifetime of betting, I've only staked maybe 5 prop bets- only in the Super Bowl. Prop bets are for suckers.
Betting should not be banned. Like everything, you have to manage the idiots, limit their damage and ruining a good thing.
Athletes should not be allowed to gamble on their own games. Just like government officials should be banned from directly owning stock.
They (athletes) already are. It is illegal for them to bet period, even if in other sports. But how can you fiscalize it?
@@thiagoveloso7610ban sports gambling. That is the ideal solution to me because it is horrible to be encouraging it in the first place. Doubt that will happen because it makes so much money for everyone involved.
Nice channel name
Umpires can easily influence a game's outcome.
A number of dodgy umpire calls during the prestart in one of the current America's Cup boat racing races made sure that one team was NOT penalized effecctively handing them the race win.
Political lobbying is legal, sports betting is legal - As an Indian, I will always be baffled by the different ways to make legal money in the US. 🙄
I stopped trusting sports many moons ago. Only have to look at football or ufc to see why. Total bs these days. Politics, gambling, advertising , and money ruining another thing
Extremely harsh consequences for a dude who made half a million a year and who's brother made 33 million. Wonder how the poor guy will recover tbh...
0:40 HOLY SHIT, this can totally manipulate the result of a game siince EVERYTHING can be bet on.
Hey FYI your state-by-state map seems to be incorrect for California, as it's still illegal here.
You can't stop gambling, just like you can't stop people doing drugs. The only thing you can do is regulate them, provide legal ways to do it and then punish those who break the rules harshly.
And NBA now make gambling all out. All arenas have bet promoter. WTF!
Now look at spot fixing in tennis, especially in the satellite tournaments.
11 min clip with 2 min ad, makes sense
some people don't know that this situation is much worse in eSports.
Jimmy Butler has had strange stats lately including his foot/flu issues Friday
It also negatively impacts small market teams having a chance to compete when it makes the league even more money for us to lose. I wish other Blazers fans saw this reality instead of calling me a conspiracy theorist.
The NBA, NFL, states Ect… did this to themselves by allowing gambling to be legal
This channel is slept on but keep making videos they are engaging and super well produced
Mahones going backwards 3 times to take 3 knees just to go back under his rushing line also tells me that these leagues and sportsbook will tell a player to do something that helps them not lose, you gotta question the legitimacy of the game
You should talk to Richard Lewis about how bad sports betting is in esports specifically, it really emphasizes a lot of these issues, you also very quickly run into organized crime in this situation
99% of gamblers quit right before they hit it big. You got this!!!
Arbitrage betting is interesting as well, but not like how sports fans think that the games play out the way they would be if they actually played the full time.
Hilarious that sports betting ads pop up with videos like this every time.
2:32 Sports betting is still illegal in California
Not prop bets
No one who bets is a real fan of any team. Bring back the ban on betting.
The perfect story to watch 2 days after Pete Rose died. He was permanently kicked out of baseball for betting on his OWN team WIN! Long before prop were even heard of. American sports need to watch the insididious gambling changes going on. We can easily get to a point that we assume any player any time could be cheating. Why watch sport if the getting parlors are the ones making the money.
The MLB should be embarrassed to deny Pete Rose a spot in the hall, while allowing betting ads. What a fucking crock. All sports leagues are a crock for allowing betting ads. Of course it will create corruption. You cant trust any league to not be fixed now.
I also hate how all the sports commentators now have betting lines in the chyron or even worse, a whole segment talking about what they want you to bet on. Ridiculous and tacky. Makes watching sports media even more tiresome.
Hmmm I definitely don’t remember sports betting being legal in California….
It's hard to say no to money.