Not only do I appreciate your videos for showing us products and home automation stuff, but I also like how you are real enough that you show us where you missed things or made mistakes. You aren't editing the mistakes out to save face.
Appreciate that feedback. Not everyone feels that way but I think it's important to show that we are human as well and we aren't always successful on the first attempt (or second or third).
Great presentation of this tiny device, thank you for that. At the end of the video, you're mentionning a BT sensor that could be installed inside your car and get its presence detected from the BT-Proxy. Any example of such BT sensor, by any chance ? Thank you.
I haven't played with one in awhile. I did have a video quite awhile ago on a device that I used with an ESP-32 based device. It had limited success with that but it was early days. Now with BT proxies in HA and things like the MSR series, it's probably worth another shot. A device from this company is what I used. bluecharmbeacons.com/
We have a guide on our wiki that helps setup BT tracking. If I post the link, I think TH-cam will remove this comment so just google search Apollo Automation Wiki. Cheers, Justin Apollo Automation
One problem with presence sensors i have experienced. The sensor detect fan propeller move as a human move. This is not good if you have to use fan in your room.
Chris, what do you think about the distance of activation. I've been noticing that it's hard to find a presence/mm wave sensor that works for those of us in the United States that have big great rooms. People don't understand that some of our houses have big areas that we want to use them for.
The LD2410B in the MSR-1 has a detectable range of 5m/18ft. There are sensors that can detect up to 25m that we might use in a future sensor... Cheers, Justin Apollo Automation
I have found that I need to make the MSR series less sensitive because they detect outside the range for what I need (10x10 room). But Justin replied already with some 25m sensors they are looking at.
Would you recommend some precise temperature sensors for ESPhome, like ready made product ? Maybe there are some sensors which are well made, precise and ready to go with ESPhome solution? This one has temperature sensor, but like you mentioned - it is not the main task for it. Thank you!
Our air quality monitor, The AIR-1, is able to detect CO. However, CO2 can have negative health affects as well, especially when >1000 ppm. We use the SCD40 which is a true NDIR CO2 sensor. Seeing the CO2 levels rise is your home has been eye-opening, especially since it can cause, headaches, fatigue, drowsiness and decreased productivity. Let us know your thoughts! Cheers, Justin Apollo Automation
Good point. I've got an AIR-1 (thanks Justin) to try out. That would be interesting to try out in the garage, especially when the car starts up or sits there idling. I would also be interested to see how much CO makes it into the house via the garage entrance door after pulls into the garage and people come inside.
Great review! I already owned one of these but I'm still learning on a lot of the MMWave stuff, and this definitely helped. Can you talk more about using it as a Bluetooth Proxy? Does it just do that by default or do you need to enable something in order for that to work?
We ship internationally and offer free shipping on orders over $200. We have shipped to every continent except Antarctica! We also have two European distributors, Open-Circuit and Domo-Supply. No Amazon yet but maybe in the future. Cheers, Justin Apollo Automation
@@JoshDingus huh? Nobody needs to monitor CO2. Carbon Monoxide (CO) is what is deadly. CO2 is what makes our beer, soda... Etc fizzy. Take away one oxygen and it makes a huge difference.
This device measures CO2 and our air quality monitor, The AIR-1 measures CO. Here is our response from above. "Our air quality monitor, The AIR-1, is able to detect CO. However, CO2 can have negative health affects as well, especially when >1000 ppm. We use the SCD40 which is a true NDIR CO2 sensor. Seeing the CO2 levels rise is your home has been eye-opening, especially since it can cause, headaches, fatigue, drowsiness and decreased productivity. Let us know your thoughts!" Cheers, Justin Apollo Automation
CO is usually from vehicles, which the MSR-x series doesn't measure. Their AIR-1 will measure CO. I said CO2 in the video and referenced the garage, which is incorrect.
Not only do I appreciate your videos for showing us products and home automation stuff, but I also like how you are real enough that you show us where you missed things or made mistakes. You aren't editing the mistakes out to save face.
Appreciate that feedback. Not everyone feels that way but I think it's important to show that we are human as well and we aren't always successful on the first attempt (or second or third).
@mostlychris, thank you for the honest and real world review! We are happy to answer any questions!
Cheers,
Justin
Apollo Automation
I love all the Apollo devices. They Just Work !!
Thank you, Jerry! We really appreciate you being with us since the beginning!
Cheers,
Justin
Apollo Automation
great product, Chris! Thanks for the review
Thank you.
Great presentation of this tiny device, thank you for that. At the end of the video, you're mentionning a BT sensor that could be installed inside your car and get its presence detected from the BT-Proxy. Any example of such BT sensor, by any chance ? Thank you.
I haven't played with one in awhile. I did have a video quite awhile ago on a device that I used with an ESP-32 based device. It had limited success with that but it was early days. Now with BT proxies in HA and things like the MSR series, it's probably worth another shot. A device from this company is what I used. bluecharmbeacons.com/
At the time of this post:
No C02: $34.99
C02: $54.99
Isn’t there an MSR2? What’s the difference between the MSR2 & the MSR1?
Great video. How is the bluetooth tracking set up?
We have a guide on our wiki that helps setup BT tracking. If I post the link, I think TH-cam will remove this comment so just google search Apollo Automation Wiki.
Cheers,
Justin
Apollo Automation
One problem with presence sensors i have experienced. The sensor detect fan propeller move as a human move. This is not good if you have to use fan in your room.
Chris, what do you think about the distance of activation. I've been noticing that it's hard to find a presence/mm wave sensor that works for those of us in the United States that have big great rooms. People don't understand that some of our houses have big areas that we want to use them for.
The LD2410B in the MSR-1 has a detectable range of 5m/18ft. There are sensors that can detect up to 25m that we might use in a future sensor...
Cheers,
Justin
Apollo Automation
I have found that I need to make the MSR series less sensitive because they detect outside the range for what I need (10x10 room). But Justin replied already with some 25m sensors they are looking at.
Would you recommend some precise temperature sensors for ESPhome, like ready made product ?
Maybe there are some sensors which are well made, precise and ready to go with ESPhome solution?
This one has temperature sensor, but like you mentioned - it is not the main task for it.
Thank you!
Sometimes a phone will use the data connection when the WiFi can't connect to the internet. On my Android disabling data solves that issue.
If its CO2, then it wont work in the Garage like you mentioned. That would be CO, Carbon Monoxide, not Carbon Dioxide.
Our air quality monitor, The AIR-1, is able to detect CO. However, CO2 can have negative health affects as well, especially when >1000 ppm. We use the SCD40 which is a true NDIR CO2 sensor. Seeing the CO2 levels rise is your home has been eye-opening, especially since it can cause, headaches, fatigue, drowsiness and decreased productivity. Let us know your thoughts!
Cheers,
Justin
Apollo Automation
Good point. I've got an AIR-1 (thanks Justin) to try out. That would be interesting to try out in the garage, especially when the car starts up or sits there idling. I would also be interested to see how much CO makes it into the house via the garage entrance door after pulls into the garage and people come inside.
Jump links in description are mostly messed up....
Uh oh. I post the timeline and YT uses those to make bookmarks. Not sure what happened.
Great review! I already owned one of these but I'm still learning on a lot of the MMWave stuff, and this definitely helped.
Can you talk more about using it as a Bluetooth Proxy? Does it just do that by default or do you need to enable something in order for that to work?
If only there was an accurate way to show its size.... maybe use a ruler, rather than a coin, pen or book! 😂 Nice video Chris - keep up the good work
The MSR-1 measures 40mm x 32mm x 13mm.
Cheers,
Justin
Apollo Automation
only available in the US on their website... no amazon on this one...
We ship internationally and offer free shipping on orders over $200. We have shipped to every continent except Antarctica! We also have two European distributors, Open-Circuit and Domo-Supply. No Amazon yet but maybe in the future.
Cheers,
Justin
Apollo Automation
Why do they say CO2? I would think they mean CO. Don't think they are measuring burps after a swig of beer or soda!
Carbon dioxide or carbon monoxide?
@@JoshDingus huh? Nobody needs to monitor CO2. Carbon Monoxide (CO) is what is deadly. CO2 is what makes our beer, soda... Etc fizzy. Take away one oxygen and it makes a huge difference.
This device measures CO2 and our air quality monitor, The AIR-1 measures CO. Here is our response from above.
"Our air quality monitor, The AIR-1, is able to detect CO. However, CO2 can have negative health affects as well, especially when >1000 ppm. We use the SCD40 which is a true NDIR CO2 sensor. Seeing the CO2 levels rise is your home has been eye-opening, especially since it can cause, headaches, fatigue, drowsiness and decreased productivity. Let us know your thoughts!"
Cheers,
Justin
Apollo Automation
thanks for this LINK BROKEN as they have moved to MSR-2 .. may want to redo your affiliate link. Cheers.
Yup time to update the affiliate link.
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CO2? Carbon DIoxide, or CO Carbon MONoxide - CO is the poisonous one btw...
CO is usually from vehicles, which the MSR-x series doesn't measure. Their AIR-1 will measure CO. I said CO2 in the video and referenced the garage, which is incorrect.
You can get the Athom for $29 for what you are looking for.
Discontinued. Replacement has fewer features. Read the reviews in their site. Not encouraging.
accidentally early I guess lol
A good idea to try it first before turning on the camera