Ok, so I am half way through this vid and I had to stop to input this comment... Thankyou SO much for filming this dyno tune and having Brock explain what and why he's doing. Awesome sharing of information which is what every red blooded motorcyclist needs! My hat is off to Brock and you as well 650IB, keep up the good work 'my good buddy', from a hopelessly addicted Hayabusa rider in New Zealand..... never forget, riding keeps you young and fit!
Man I love watching videos from ib and Brock love it keep up the good work guys !! Very soon I’m getting my ecu flashed from Brock and it’s gonna unleash the beast !!!!
Just purchase my 2017 BMW s1000rr just now at this moment I've been riding here in North Carolina and Raleigh. Got lost but LOL thanks for all the video it helped me really decide which bike to get
So, if the bike is tuned and Brock said "Its for emissions and noise control" which is why the blades respond to the throttle, wouldn't that mean that tuning it would make it not pass a test?. I said this on the patreon page, but this video is extremely interesting to see the process of how to tune a bike. I'm glad to be able to learn with you as well. Thanks again IB
I Accept Visa - if you live in an area where the bike is required to pass a yearly emission inspection, or, if you live in California - the bike will no longer pass if you run a full exhaust (no cat), ECU mods, or both.
Im not positive, but i thought that ib said they were making it a track bike. So emissions prob arent a concern. You could always have it tuned again when you make it street legal again. Even the Brocks exaust is track only.
I Accept Visa. At least in the car world anytime an ecu is flashed it won’t pass. In my area anyway. So my tuner gave me two maps one that will pass and one that makes power.
I think this was the Bike I started supporting the series on Patreon. It doesn't feel like it's been this long though! Lol I'm dying to catch a peek at one of these previous builds somewhere online!
They don't do emissions tests at WOT. The blades stay at a reduced angle to create velocity in the lower RPM sections. Not sure why the close at over 12000.
Amazing work really and I'm in love with the colour 7hp more how it come maaan it beet the hp4 how it come... I really appreciate that all this time and work for given away a new bike that's love even if i didn't win the bike it does not matter because i respect what u do... Thanks man
I've ridden the BMW and like the power but it's got very wide lines. The R1 on the other hand has tighter lines I heard but not so as powerful. I wanna know from someone who's ridden both on track. I'm not a frequent Street rider so gonna use the bike on track only
Brock is incorrect in his explanation of the pcV mapping interface, the pcv reads throttle position off of you actual throttle position sensor, not the etv (electronic throttle values). This info can be verified with a simple check of the bmw service manual and/or by speaking with Chris from dynojet. Flashing the etv map to 100% of requested throttle position and then checking afr would be a better approach, and the tech to flash the ecu direct is available from flashtune for the 2017’s. Uses the DNS port.
+ Mateeryal Mateeryal That's a bit high. A dyno is only a tuning tool and not a comparison tool unless both bikes which you would like to compare are both there. An S1000rr may have read 200+ on that dyno. Each dyno is different. Also, type of tire, tire weight, tire pressure, tire size, strap down pressure, temperature, humidity, chain and sprockets, etc all make a massive difference on the dyno. So to throw out a number on one bike is meaningless.
Dude, yes you are right, every dyno is different. But I am talking about brocks dyno already. The brocks posted 198 horsepower with its own exhaust and power commander on the internet site. The 1000RR gen5 can not be as strong as zx10r.
citizensauto no don’t flash the bike. Get a race calibration kit from bmw or get a rapid bike racing fuel managment system. Power commander does not work on the 17 model. Reflash is not best option
Cr500 Kev is the bmw race calibration kit going to be able to adjust ignition timing and give full throttle blade control to give 100 percent throttle blade open when giving 100 percent throttle vs the percentage closed the throttle blades are when stock? Also is the bmw calibration kit going to be able to adjust ignition dwell times, and rpm extension capability and also early fan activation to keep the temperature down vs stock? And whats the cost if the bmw kit
That's cool he lets this process be seen. Love learning how this is done and struggles oem had to build in. Race ecu or flash eliminates this issue of 100% really equals 100% throttle? Why didn't you do a flash for this bike?
Ib, honest opinion of yours, i am between a 2017 r1 and a 15 to 16 bmw s1000rr, i would like your opinion, i like speed but also cornering quite aggressively. Thank you
+650ib Since the next bike build series or (series 2) will have carbon fibre wheels and fairings, maybe you could add one more video to this series and give us a goal to reach for this first bike to also have carbon fibre wheels and fairings? I would support it and many others I think would as well. Just a thought, love the vids!
bradley obrien Hey, I went over the initial videos in this build series and most of the Patreon's won't support more videos. Also, this season is ending this week.
@brockdavidson With the brentuning stage 1 flash would you be able to map the bike in the 100% column? .Or does the bike need the stage 2 hp unlock or alpha n?I would like to purchase one of your maps but want to get the right flash to unlock its potential
Enrique Garcia Jr - in 2010-2014, the bikes didn't have to pass as strict emissions testing from the factory. In 2015-16 it got worse and 2017 the tests are far more stringent than ever. The fact that this bike can make so much power is a tribute to BMW engineers.
Brock Davidson thanks for the reply and the knowledge brother! I was looking into getting one but was uncertain about what it brought to the table. After watching these videos I’m DEFINITELY installing a Brocks Performance Exhausts for my future RR!
8:50 so he's tuning for the maximum power at 85% throttle because full throttle is only actually giving 85% so hopefully this will be more optimal for the bike? That was how I interpreted it.
Armoni Visuals hes tuning AT 85% for a 100% tune, cuz it would be like teaching a baby to run when it can barely crawl, so in order for a baby to run, hes basically teaching the baby to crawl and then walking and then running, hopefully that makes sense
Hey, like your videos, just wondering how much is it to get a dyno tune from Brock's? I live a couple hours away and want to get a tune for my gsx-s1000. thanx
Really really hope I win this bike, or any other bike build you do. I think this is a good thing for those like me with a passion for motorcycle and can't afford a bike of this caliber. So keep up the great videos and hope u have many more bike build seasons.
just brought a 2018 with 12000 km .has problems. doesn't like going 30 to 50kph without slighty jerking .not smooth constant low RPM . bike shop said this was normal . I understand it's a race bike but you do ride these in traffic if you have blinkers. I'm not in to higher gear 3 thousand RPM in 2nd. it's not a daily comutor. be interesting to get this sorted cause I love the bike otherwise. hp is NOT what I'm wanting.
Don't know if its still relevant but you can get the throttle bodies synced mechanically as the first thing. Then next thing to check is if the throttle positioning sensor gets the right voltage.
@@lki5678 it was the valve under the right footpeg on the exhaust was disconnected has a cable going to it that opens and closes . butterfly round valve inside the exhaust. like a backpresure valve.
@@petermoygannon698 Interesting then that you get the reply "everything normal" from a shop. Wouldn't have thought the exhaust flapper could make that much trouble, but whattaya know
@@lki5678 the guy I brought it of disconnected it to make the valve open all the time . he said he forgot to tell me he disconnected it. just runs smoother at low RPM connected.
Erik Qrtquist: The Magnuson-Moss Warranty act prevents the vehicles warranty form being void, UNLESS the dealer can PROVE the addition of a particular aftermarket component was the cause of a failure on the vehicle. More details on wiki.
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Ok, so I am half way through this vid and I had to stop to input this comment... Thankyou SO much for filming this dyno tune and having Brock explain what and why he's doing. Awesome sharing of information which is what every red blooded motorcyclist needs!
My hat is off to Brock and you as well 650IB, keep up the good work 'my good buddy', from a hopelessly addicted Hayabusa rider in New Zealand..... never forget, riding keeps you young and fit!
+munter10 Thanks man! I love being young and fit!
I would love to see a video that summarizes everything that you did to the bike like a small compilation tank you bro!!! 👍😀
These videos really give us a lot of knowledge about tuning bikes. Keep up the good work.
Brock is definitely an engineers engineer, his logic is spot on, impressive.
Hi ib, yet another great video from you. Brock did a awesome job on the BMW. Next series will be very interested to see.
Love the work coming along in the bike outstanding amount of time and effort that your taking to put it in it's just unexplainable. Thanks
+Quinton Fuller Thanks!!!
Man I love watching videos from ib and Brock love it keep up the good work guys !! Very soon I’m getting my ecu flashed from Brock and it’s gonna unleash the beast !!!!
Thanks Matt!
Just purchase my 2017 BMW s1000rr just now at this moment I've been riding here in North Carolina and Raleigh. Got lost but LOL thanks for all the video it helped me really decide which bike to get
I love these videos man, I learn so much about bikes
Love your videos from Brock's Performance!
+Track848 Thanks Sir!!!
+Track848 , yes - thanks!
Brock Davidson you're the man Brock
Enjoyed this tuning video and all the recent streaming videos you've been doing. Keep up the excellent work Ib.
+cwatc777 Thanks so much Chris! See you on December 2nd at the NYC IMS
Brock is the man. I’m lucky enough to live a short 15 minute drive from his shop.
+Jeff Henry Hell yeah Jeff!!!
650ib hopefully one day I have the pleasure of meeting up with you and getting the smack down put on me on my new s1000 😂😂.
So, if the bike is tuned and Brock said "Its for emissions and noise control" which is why the blades respond to the throttle, wouldn't that mean that tuning it would make it not pass a test?. I said this on the patreon page, but this video is extremely interesting to see the process of how to tune a bike. I'm glad to be able to learn with you as well. Thanks again IB
I Accept Visa - if you live in an area where the bike is required to pass a yearly emission inspection, or, if you live in California - the bike will no longer pass if you run a full exhaust (no cat), ECU mods, or both.
Im not positive, but i thought that ib said they were making it a track bike. So emissions prob arent a concern. You could always have it tuned again when you make it street legal again. Even the Brocks exaust is track only.
I Accept Visa. At least in the car world anytime an ecu is flashed it won’t pass. In my area anyway. So my tuner gave me two maps one that will pass and one that makes power.
Yeh the vlog shows the detail abt the year an the product of the bike model to when it can be track performed...
Yep
Brock’s a genius , great videos 😃👍
Hey Ib i have to commend you for doing this series and giving someone the chance to win. Even a stock bike would have been a fantastic prize.
+Spiro Thanks!!!!
I think this was the Bike I started supporting the series on Patreon. It doesn't feel like it's been this long though! Lol I'm dying to catch a peek at one of these previous builds somewhere online!
They don't do emissions tests at WOT. The blades stay at a reduced angle to create velocity in the lower RPM sections. Not sure why the close at over 12000.
Congrats on getting the new ducati can't wait to see you take delivery
That's why i trust Brock with our bikes at Two Bees Tuning.
Wow a load more work goes into mapping than I thought we live and learn 🤔 Adam 🇬🇧
Amazing work really and I'm in love with the colour 7hp more how it come maaan it beet the hp4 how it come... I really appreciate that all this time and work for given away a new bike that's love even if i didn't win the bike it does not matter because i respect what u do... Thanks man
man, I wish Brocks made an exhaust for a street triple, I'd be all over that.
R1 vs 2017 S1000rr, which one would be your choice to go racing?
#88 Racing Phenomenon me personally id go with the 2017 bmw 1000rr just because iv never rode one. Even tho i know R1s can go.
#88 Racing Phenomenon the bmw got more power, but the yamaha u feel more confortable to go faster.
Miguel idk man my 2016 r1 is better on the street than my r6 was. I've heard BMW is the best but can't be much better
#88 Racing Phenomenon The s1000 is a well tuned statical bike with the torque an then the other is okay
I've ridden the BMW and like the power but it's got very wide lines. The R1 on the other hand has tighter lines I heard but not so as powerful. I wanna know from someone who's ridden both on track. I'm not a frequent Street rider so gonna use the bike on track only
I will always love your HP4...and I'm patient enough to wait you out ib...then I'm going to own it..lol.....great build series buddy
+Richard Gower HAHAHA! Thanks Richard. The HP4 is a classic bike and I love it.
Love the videos man! Keep up the hard work and dedication 👌🍻
Brock with me!
Brock is incorrect in his explanation of the pcV mapping interface, the pcv reads throttle position off of you actual throttle position sensor, not the etv (electronic throttle values). This info can be verified with a simple check of the bmw service manual and/or by speaking with Chris from dynojet. Flashing the etv map to 100% of requested throttle position and then checking afr would be a better approach, and the tech to flash the ecu direct is available from flashtune for the 2017’s. Uses the DNS port.
Just imagine someone who doesn’t know how to really ride and they end up winning this bike. 😭🙃
Wheretheduat lol..
Gen 5 zx10r rear wheel 197-198 hp...full exhaust and pc5
Mateeryal Mateeryal gen 5s are crazy
+ Mateeryal Mateeryal That's a bit high. A dyno is only a tuning tool and not a comparison tool unless both bikes which you would like to compare are both there. An S1000rr may have read 200+ on that dyno. Each dyno is different. Also, type of tire, tire weight, tire pressure, tire size, strap down pressure, temperature, humidity, chain and sprockets, etc all make a massive difference on the dyno. So to throw out a number on one bike is meaningless.
Dude, yes you are right, every dyno is different. But I am talking about brocks dyno already. The brocks posted 198 horsepower with its own exhaust and power commander on the internet site. The 1000RR gen5 can not be as strong as zx10r.
Big top numbers ,how often do you ride at 100% ?Even racers,what about 40/50 %openings ,in the lower gears,used more often on the road.
10:04 that sound
So ECU flash is definitely the way to go eh?
citizensauto theres no way around it nowadays if u want the fullest potential
Exactly as race addict said I wish this bike got a ECU flash. If I win this bike it’s going and getting a ecu flash and get dyno tuned
citizensauto no don’t flash the bike. Get a race calibration kit from bmw or get a rapid bike racing fuel managment system. Power commander does not work on the 17 model. Reflash is not best option
Cr500 Kev is the bmw race calibration kit going to be able to adjust ignition timing and give full throttle blade control to give 100 percent throttle blade open when giving 100 percent throttle vs the percentage closed the throttle blades are when stock? Also is the bmw calibration kit going to be able to adjust ignition dwell times, and rpm extension capability and also early fan activation to keep the temperature down vs stock? And whats the cost if the bmw kit
no
Dear past, present & future... £UCK EMMISIONS!
so fucking informative. thanks for sharing this!
That's cool he lets this process be seen. Love learning how this is done and struggles oem had to build in. Race ecu or flash eliminates this issue of 100% really equals 100% throttle? Why didn't you do a flash for this bike?
Nik Scott there isn’t a flash available yet
So this Throttle blade position issue.. Does this not affect a bike with traditional cable throttle?
@650ib great video and I am ready to #WINthisBike 😎 track or street #LettheSmackdownsBegin 🏁🍾🏁
#650ib
Any ECU updates since this video?
Ib, honest opinion of yours, i am between a 2017 r1 and a 15 to 16 bmw s1000rr, i would like your opinion, i like speed but also cornering quite aggressively. Thank you
Should have put on the tyres after the dyno runs, now you'll have to get new ones again xD
Great video! I have learned couple things ;)
Damn that’s some hard engine breaking lol
I was trying to build heat in the engine to speed things along :)
Question@650ib What mode is the bike in when he is tuning? just wondering if the throttle will behave the same in each mode.
slick mode
+650ib Since the next bike build series or (series 2) will have carbon fibre wheels and fairings, maybe you could add one more video to this series and give us a goal to reach for this first bike to also have carbon fibre wheels and fairings? I would support it and many others I think would as well. Just a thought, love the vids!
bradley obrien Hey, I went over the initial videos in this build series and most of the Patreon's won't support more videos. Also, this season is ending this week.
What happened to the GSXR run like you said was gonna happen?
And the 17 s1000r got 193 not 192
@brockdavidson With the brentuning stage 1 flash would you be able to map the bike in the 100% column? .Or does the bike need the stage 2 hp unlock or alpha n?I would like to purchase one of your maps but want to get the right flash to unlock its potential
What about the led headlight and stuff
What headlights are you using? I️ can’t find anything that white.
650ib When's the next SMACKDOWN???
She sounds so beastly ga'damn
Can u over ride the throttle postpone sensor
1. Was 2010 a golden year for the BMW?
2. What is significant about that year for BMW about that particular RR?
Enrique Garcia Jr - in 2010-2014, the bikes didn't have to pass as strict emissions testing from the factory. In 2015-16 it got worse and 2017 the tests are far more stringent than ever. The fact that this bike can make so much power is a tribute to BMW engineers.
Brock Davidson thanks for the reply and the knowledge brother! I was looking into getting one but was uncertain about what it brought to the table. After watching these videos I’m DEFINITELY installing a Brocks Performance Exhausts for my future RR!
8:50 so he's tuning for the maximum power at 85% throttle because full throttle is only actually giving 85% so hopefully this will be more optimal for the bike? That was how I interpreted it.
Armoni Visuals hes tuning AT 85% for a 100% tune, cuz it would be like teaching a baby to run when it can barely crawl, so in order for a baby to run, hes basically teaching the baby to crawl and then walking and then running, hopefully that makes sense
Ib please explain to me the benefits of the blue hoses
Hey did you ever get the map right for the power commander, or dare I say maximum amount of HP ?
Hey, like your videos, just wondering how much is it to get a dyno tune from Brock's? I live a couple hours away and want to get a tune for my gsx-s1000. thanx
Why in USA the bike are not full like in England?
Jonathan Dos Santos "emissions"
Are you not making the videos for patreon ???
build a 2018 zx10r!!!
Really really hope I win this bike, or any other bike build you do. I think this is a good thing for those like me with a passion for motorcycle and can't afford a bike of this caliber. So keep up the great videos and hope u have many more bike build seasons.
Hlo
Is it important to maping for exhaust change
Why don't i ever see the new Fireblade being owned by anyone. Thought it was supposed to be a very decent bike.
Grenzle 24 decently slowwww lol
Great bike just don’t have the punch of other litre bikes
Can You do the same with 2017 s1000r?
Yup.
If it’s just for emissions? Why do they make it harder to flash ? Like they don’t want their costumers to get the full potential of their bike
+ZX10R Ant Emissions and safety.
just brought a 2018 with 12000 km .has problems. doesn't like going 30 to 50kph without slighty jerking .not smooth constant low RPM . bike shop said this was normal . I understand it's a race bike but you do ride these in traffic if you have blinkers. I'm not in to higher gear 3 thousand RPM in 2nd. it's not a daily comutor. be interesting to get this sorted cause I love the bike otherwise. hp is NOT what I'm wanting.
Don't know if its still relevant but you can get the throttle bodies synced mechanically as the first thing. Then next thing to check is if the throttle positioning sensor gets the right voltage.
@@lki5678 it was the valve under the right footpeg on the exhaust was disconnected has a cable going to it that opens and closes . butterfly round valve inside the exhaust. like a backpresure valve.
@@petermoygannon698 Interesting then that you get the reply "everything normal" from a shop. Wouldn't have thought the exhaust flapper could make that much trouble, but whattaya know
@@lki5678 the guy I brought it of disconnected it to make the valve open all the time . he said he forgot to tell me he disconnected it. just runs smoother at low RPM connected.
Is it too late to qualify to win, if not what can I do to qualify for it?
E. Cross hrs doing another build series with an s1000
its to reliability and emissions
is it too late to support the parteon series?
Will anybody ever learn to flash the 2017s 18s are hitting the showroom and still nothing.
Brentuning and Brock are working on it. BMW put alot of coding into the 2017-18 S1000RR ECU's and it's more difficult to crack.
ib go ahead and send my bike to me, I have a track day at COTA and the end of the month and that would be a great place to ride it!;)
+Michael Muller HAHAH! I love COTA!
So purdy!
I thought Brock had a flash for this bike. Why is Brock tuning this?
Who dis the best ecu flash for 2017s1000rr ??
+Philip Borland Brentuning
www.brentuning.com
650ib cool thank u still weatin on them to come out with it
Doesn't this void the factory warranty?
+Erik Ortquist Not at all.
Surely it's not that simple 650? If your map is way too lean they will not cover your engine damage..
Erik Qrtquist: The Magnuson-Moss Warranty act prevents the vehicles warranty form being void, UNLESS the dealer can PROVE the addition of a particular aftermarket component was the cause of a failure on the vehicle. More details on wiki.
Brock Davidson Thank you for the info Brock! That's awesome.
small windows size outro. Ib can you change it please. Haha...
I spy an S1KR like mine. :D
+Heath3250 Yes! 👀👀👀👀👀👀
how do you enter to potentially win it!!??
MrJp012770 www.patreon.com/650ib
+MrJp012770 www.patreon.com/650ib
Ib💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽🤙🏼
Is this result whp or engine?
Rear wheel HP
👌
Are u really gonna buy Ducati’s version of the cbr 1000 😂😂
What?
What’s SAE smoothing?
It's an engineering standard that takes into account torque lost, for realistic dyno figures
“Parteon.com” is that supposed to be like that?
HeroofSomething www.patreon.com/650ib
With all the fairings off, this is not streetable power.
How much does it cost to dyno
First