9:40 "All I gotta do is try to beat the cars in front of me and the ones behind me as well. Got to beat all of them ideally." This is why I watch you Steve. Your incredible insight and breadth of knowledge in motorsports is second to none. You never cease to amaze me.
Half a lifetime ago I owned a 1965 DS19 with the 2.0L engine, disc brakes, hydropneumatic suspension, a little button for a brake pedal and the iconic single spoke steering wheel. Long stroke, low revving engine that took half an hour to get to peak revs in top but it could propel the car to 100 MPH and it often did on late night, early morning trips up the Hume Highway here in Victoria, Australia. Way before it's time.
@@andyvasist418 So far back in the day it was pre-radar, pre-ANPR, pre-speed cameras and most definitely pre the development of personal common sense. Circa 1968/69. I was just lucky I guess.
Always love seeing DSs in Melbourne. Currently driving a similar-era Peugeot 504 (74'), also in Victoria, AUS. Despite an advertised top speed of 180kph back in the day, 3000rpm at 100kph is a very strange experience indeed - needs another gear maybe. Even so, owning and driving it every day in my early twenties is a pleasure.
Slow races are really gripping to be honest. You have to focus so much more on preserving speed on your corners & since it's so much slower than you're used to, it becomes easy to completely mess up (ime.)
One of my most popular lobbies in GT5 was iirc a 125pp hill climb event, there was that one half circuit-half rally track that had a massive 100ft elevation change and when you're in a car with like 50hp suddenly it becomes a hill climb, people would come with all these custom tunes, raw 50hp NA beasts, 37hp turbocharged mini-cars oh it was a blast!
My real life commute to work at my old job was 3,800ft elevation change over 12km. That was a real daily hill climb in my underpowered car! 🤣 going home was a peice of cake though!
I miss those races in GT7. Races with like all kinds of cars; maybe restricted to when they were built or where there come from - like Europe or Asia. Would mix up some races with some cool sights and tunes. GT needs to make alot more with the GT Sport part, I think. Gr 3&4 just isnt enough. This game offers so much variety in cars. Maybe even include the GT Vision ones.
Slow races are underrated imo. You really build race craft and circuit knowledge, and the close quarters racing in my view compensates for the lack of speed, it becomes all about the fine detail. Gonna give this one a go in VR tomorrow 🙂
The Citroen actually was quite the machine when it was originally launched and was mega advanced for its day. Still has a lot of cool shit going for it even now IMO. And it's a looker too!
You just brought back some great memories for me. I used to be in a slow car league in GT5. We would set the PP level low and had some great races with the slow cars. The person who was in charge of the league was Watermelon or something like that. It was a fun time.
Actually one of my favourite cars ever, Patrick Jane from Mentalist drove one as well, such a perfect car for his character. In general it was one of the most advanced cars of its time, very fascinating indeed
3:17 No Kirby is not a pokemon 💀 please say you were joking lmao (that was a pretty good rebound on the first race though, i would've quit personally haha)
@@burd7455 yeah i can see how people would get it confused, the way i can tell easily is the eyes (and also Jigglypuff has very visible ears while Kirby doesn't)
He said it to get ppl to comment to correct him, boosts his score in the algorithm, and for it to be a funny moment - I doubt he doesn't know who Kirby is
@JohnsonTheSecond I dont know who kirby is or what it looks like. We drive race cars here on GT7. I could probably identify several cars that people who know about kirby and jigglypuff could not identify though.
This is Crofty's happiest day with SuperGT performing a sensational "Ole Switcheroo" for the legendary P6 position. What a time to be alive.... Truly fantastic stuff👏🙌
I love races with non race cars, because to me that's the essence of Gran Turismo. The possibility to race with an average car, possibility which to my knowledge non other racing games offer.
Do a 200 lap race with this car (wouldn't ask you to do it on the Nurburgring otherwise you might decide to end your career and eventually your life, so any track would do)
i know steve says "marvel of engineering" in sarcasm, but the DS was probably genuinely one of the most advanced cars for its time. I don't think another production car has ever been so far ahead of it's time.
That car takes me back! My Dad owned several Citroen Pallas' in the 1970s and used it to drive all over Europe on his summer holidays. The size of the car was also handy as he used it to carry his records around when he was a DJ in London back then as well. He also owned a Daimler Vanden Plas if my memory serves me correctly 👍👍
That last overtake is the EMBODIMENT of racing. If anyone ever asks about racing or tells me racing is lame or they're ever curious about racing in general, I am showing them that overtake. The strategy and skill to carry that out was phenomenal. Fantastic racing right there.
This reminds me of the time I tried to lap Trial Mountain with the Mercedes-Benz Carriage, and it's absolutely terrifying 2bhp, in gt4. It took about a lightyear to make it up the hill between turns 1&2
Loved it! I daily a DS, and they are so much fun to drive. The 4-speed column shift and cloud-like suspension are just fantastic. This should be a real race series, haha.
This video finally made me understand the concept of real life racing. Since I grew up with stuff like FlatOut 2, Mario Kart Wii and NFS High Stakes where most of the strats are "go fast" and "destroy your enemies" I never quite understood the appeal of real racing. But the way you showed and/or explained the way lines, overtaking and momentum and stuff works... I think I'm starting to get it
Fun fact: if you replace any youtube link with that Wifi Password Guy's name, it will show a very relaxing documentary of the making of Exotic Butters.
One of the greatest "old swicharoos" ever, in that last corner... pure perfection... The adrenalin from watching this blisteringly fast paced race was almost too much for me!
Love, love, love your videos. So much fun to watch while learning the little tweaks here and there from different driving styles and cars. Thank you Steve, you're a legend.
I really enjoyed that race, but I also happen to be an extreme nerd when it comes to old hydropneumatic Citroëns (and own a semi-old one as well, only 22 years old though) 😃 And finishing in 6th! Beautiful! 😆
25 years ago I owned a DS for some years. Still remember her for the super soft suspension, perfect weight distribution for a front drive car (because of the engine behind the front axle). Very little understear. And quite noisy inside ... The very big disc brakes were mounted at the gearbox, not at the wheels. Instead of a pedal there was a tiny rubber mushroom. The brakes worked with the high pressure hydraulik of the suspension and was much better then most of the cars of that era. What looks different in the game: the air suspension was softer and with little dampening. The rolling in the corners was much bigger. Under acceleration the butt of the lady went down and at braking up. In the game this all looks quite modern and neutral. A very remarkable car. I'm still happy when I see one. Even in a game :-)
I recently discovered (late, I know) that there is a Gran Turismo World Series but was disappointed to find that every race is for fast cars and there's none for slower cars. I find that racing slower cars in games like this, the Forza games and others is much more fun that racing fast cars. Fast cars are fun too, but races with slower cars are more fun. They don't get a look-in at the GTWS, though.
I love that this car's been added. I walked past one of these at the weekend in similar condition to your car in this video only probably less driveable, not a common site in the UK (In fact it can be seen on Google street view if you go to the junction of Doctors Lane and High Street in West Meon. Maybe a Super GT viewer has the resources to buy it and give it the love it needs :D)
There's 3 different types of racing classes in every game: Top tier, where you wanna have the best brakes so you stay fast longer. earlier on the throttle wins the race. Slow cars, where it's imperative to stay at speed through as much of the track as you can since acceleration doesn't happen instantly. Everything in between is a compromise between these. And then there's sometimes Offroad races where it's about ramming people at the right time
This is actually the kind of driving I like: this is it, deal with it. Modern racing cars, they’re all good. Some differences but they’re all up to snuff, basically. Especially with bop, if it’s done right. Roadcars, especially the classics, you need to deal with them. Find out the peculiar things they’re good at, or not good at, and find a way. You can’t just go in and expect compliance, you need to respect them. That’s my real passion, and that’s why I like lobbies over onlines any day of the week
My all time favorite car. 1st car I ever rode in. Dad had a dozen or so from 60 through to his Citroën SM he got in the late 70"s. Hopefully, your views pick up. I shared it with a FB Citroën group.
I'm very glad you're back to posting without VR, hope it sticks. Yes it might be awesome and realistic for the player, but for us, a bit dizzying. Also my pet peeve, I could not see your power-brake inputs and radar etc. clearly. This is much better for.learning from you.
Guys, Nintendo lawyers have got in touch and this channel might be getting shut down 😥
stop!!! wth is going on
Dont worry at least you have the Red Bull sponsorship to pay the bills
Sshhh, don't even mention their name. The lawyers are watching.
@@jojr0712but I thought they spend them on some nice dinings
They're not happy with you calling Kirby a pocket monster
Steve called Kirby a Pokémon… incredible scenes
that is not a pokemon, that is indeed a Kirby.
Lmaoooo. Why did I think it was Jigglypuff
@@Super_GT Unsubscribed
Tragic
Steve, frankly I'm ashamed.
9:40 "All I gotta do is try to beat the cars in front of me and the ones behind me as well. Got to beat all of them ideally." This is why I watch you Steve. Your incredible insight and breadth of knowledge in motorsports is second to none. You never cease to amaze me.
Some might say… “You gotta catch them all!” 😉
@@fcbandwagonlona7315 including kirby that now is a pokemon too
something will buxton would say honestly
Half a lifetime ago I owned a 1965 DS19 with the 2.0L engine, disc brakes, hydropneumatic suspension, a little button for a brake pedal and the iconic single spoke steering wheel. Long stroke, low revving engine that took half an hour to get to peak revs in top but it could propel the car to 100 MPH and it often did on late night, early morning trips up the Hume Highway here in Victoria, Australia. Way before it's time.
No issues with vicpol on Hume? Or was this back in the day
@@andyvasist418 So far back in the day it was pre-radar, pre-ANPR, pre-speed cameras and most definitely pre the development of personal common sense. Circa 1968/69. I was just lucky I guess.
Always love seeing DSs in Melbourne. Currently driving a similar-era Peugeot 504 (74'), also in Victoria, AUS. Despite an advertised top speed of 180kph back in the day, 3000rpm at 100kph is a very strange experience indeed - needs another gear maybe. Even so, owning and driving it every day in my early twenties is a pleasure.
absolute hero. you were crazy, my man. crazy.
that final overtake was *perfect*
Sensational move, I was cheering Mr. GT for that.
Did you see how the spaniard lost another position before turning into the wall? lol the final laugh
@@evanbuchanan1006 the Spanier looked so tilted
Just imagine, if PD felt like being a asshole, and made this race around Special Stage Route X.
Dont give them any ideas mate
200 laps 👊
@@Super_GT approximately 2 week long race
@@jojr0712 34 hours
What is endurance?
Viewers here, this turned out to be very fun actually.
That last overtake on the last corner of the last lap was something else. Love your content
Slow races are really gripping to be honest. You have to focus so much more on preserving speed on your corners & since it's so much slower than you're used to, it becomes easy to completely mess up (ime.)
also, P6
One of my most popular lobbies in GT5 was iirc a 125pp hill climb event, there was that one half circuit-half rally track that had a massive 100ft elevation change and when you're in a car with like 50hp suddenly it becomes a hill climb, people would come with all these custom tunes, raw 50hp NA beasts, 37hp turbocharged mini-cars oh it was a blast!
My real life commute to work at my old job was 3,800ft elevation change over 12km. That was a real daily hill climb in my underpowered car! 🤣 going home was a peice of cake though!
GT5 online aspect was amazing. I wish shuffle cars could come back!!
EIger Nordwand on GT5 and Matterhorn on GT6, memories.
this unlocked a memory holy shit
I miss those races in GT7. Races with like all kinds of cars; maybe restricted to when they were built or where there come from - like Europe or Asia. Would mix up some races with some cool sights and tunes.
GT needs to make alot more with the GT Sport part, I think. Gr 3&4 just isnt enough. This game offers so much variety in cars. Maybe even include the GT Vision ones.
Slow races are underrated imo. You really build race craft and circuit knowledge, and the close quarters racing in my view compensates for the lack of speed, it becomes all about the fine detail. Gonna give this one a go in VR tomorrow 🙂
Slow race is difficult but it’s actually quite fun to watch
@Super GT Hey Steve, that was me in the Kirby car. 🤣 Was a pleasure to race you!
The Citroen actually was quite the machine when it was originally launched and was mega advanced for its day. Still has a lot of cool shit going for it even now IMO. And it's a looker too!
Was it actually used in racing?
@@ignacardel Rallying. It was actually one of the early champions of WRC.
@legacysage i remember the "thé grand tour" épisode where Clarkson had a Citroën CX ,
Championship winner in WRC@@ignacardel
You just brought back some great memories for me. I used to be in a slow car league in GT5. We would set the PP level low and had some great races with the slow cars. The person who was in charge of the league was Watermelon or something like that. It was a fun time.
This car may be a slug on the track, but on the dirt it's an absolute rally legend
it is not that slow
rally legend? no, just no.
@@chrismechanic2000 She was a rally legend.
@Brian H if i remember correctly, quattros were obliterated by french cars in group b
@@c4rlosmtr483 that's the funniest thing i have read all day.
I love these kind of slow races, will definitely be a blast watching this!
The faster races SuperGT does might be more exciting, but whether it's karts, rallycross, or this, the oddball race videos are comedy gold.
Actually one of my favourite cars ever, Patrick Jane from Mentalist drove one as well, such a perfect car for his character. In general it was one of the most advanced cars of its time, very fascinating indeed
The mentalist was surprisingly good as the series' went on. First thing I think of is still Scarface, though.
Bruv I have been rewatching the Mentalist on HBO for about a month now. When they unveiled the DS, it was such a mind-fuck.
@@cesterkourt thought the same when they added it in FH4 😁
the old switcheroo on the final corner of the final lap to get p6 this has to be the peak performance of superGT some incredible racing
6:12 I lol'd at the explosion 😆
*Grosjean noise* 🤐
18:22 The world's slowest ankle break.
Seeing Wi-Fi password was actually a huge moment
3:17 No Kirby is not a pokemon 💀 please say you were joking lmao
(that was a pretty good rebound on the first race though, i would've quit personally haha)
Bro what, Thats jiggy puff.
I get it confused with Jiggilypuff.
@@burd7455 yeah i can see how people would get it confused, the way i can tell easily is the eyes (and also Jigglypuff has very visible ears while Kirby doesn't)
He said it to get ppl to comment to correct him, boosts his score in the algorithm, and for it to be a funny moment - I doubt he doesn't know who Kirby is
@JohnsonTheSecond I dont know who kirby is or what it looks like. We drive race cars here on GT7. I could probably identify several cars that people who know about kirby and jigglypuff could not identify though.
I love how you're going so slowly that you can admire the scenery and race at the same time
This is Crofty's happiest day with SuperGT performing a sensational "Ole Switcheroo" for the legendary P6 position. What a time to be alive.... Truly fantastic stuff👏🙌
I love races with non race cars, because to me that's the essence of Gran Turismo. The possibility to race with an average car, possibility which to my knowledge non other racing games offer.
That moment when you pause the video to explain Kirby is not a pokemon but you see Kirby fans had your back.
A surprisingly entertaining race. These kinds of races teaches or reteaches you the fundamentals of clean and fast racing.
Love that rusty livery. Gotta go get it.
That switcharoo was impeccable 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼💯
18:00 Damn. Broke that last guys axles. Lmfao 💀
Do a 200 lap race with this car (wouldn't ask you to do it on the Nurburgring otherwise you might decide to end your career and eventually your life, so any track would do)
i know steve says "marvel of engineering" in sarcasm, but the DS was probably genuinely one of the most advanced cars for its time. I don't think another production car has ever been so far ahead of it's time.
Finally, a race that was more my speed.
EDIT: the length of this race feels like practice for enduro-cup
The last move was so clean tho
Textbook ole switcheroo 👏
@@Super_GT feelin sorry for the spaniard, vibing in 6th the whole race and then dropping 2 places at once
@@szymonrapacz3946 he will learn the lesson from that one for sure
I got a little emotional seeing fellow Belgian wifi-password again
That car takes me back! My Dad owned several Citroen Pallas' in the 1970s and used it to drive all over Europe on his summer holidays. The size of the car was also handy as he used it to carry his records around when he was a DJ in London back then as well.
He also owned a Daimler Vanden Plas if my memory serves me correctly 👍👍
That final overtake got me pretty hype haha the fake to the outside and they react pinned it against the wall.
Well driven Mr. Steve.
That last overtake is the EMBODIMENT of racing. If anyone ever asks about racing or tells me racing is lame or they're ever curious about racing in general, I am showing them that overtake. The strategy and skill to carry that out was phenomenal. Fantastic racing right there.
This reminds me of the time I tried to lap Trial Mountain with the Mercedes-Benz Carriage, and it's absolutely terrifying 2bhp, in gt4. It took about a lightyear to make it up the hill between turns 1&2
No,Steve, that's not a pokémon
- Viewers
Murray Walker: "And this is terrible. Utterly appalling, Super GT has called Kirby a Pokemon! That is a major mall-miscommunication problem there!"
ITS HAPPENED IMMEDIATELY
Loved it! I daily a DS, and they are so much fun to drive. The 4-speed column shift and cloud-like suspension are just fantastic. This should be a real race series, haha.
The Pokemon was actually a Kirby, not a Pokemon!
He isn't a man of culture
@@nothinghere7391 bro thought it was jigglypuff 💀💀💀
no it's Jigglypuff
This video finally made me understand the concept of real life racing. Since I grew up with stuff like FlatOut 2, Mario Kart Wii and NFS High Stakes where most of the strats are "go fast" and "destroy your enemies" I never quite understood the appeal of real racing. But the way you showed and/or explained the way lines, overtaking and momentum and stuff works... I think I'm starting to get it
This car is a symbol of France at it's prime ⚡
205 turbo 16s is the france at its prime.
@@armands3863 He's not wrong, Citroën DS was a symbol during France prime
Always considered the Citroen 2CV to be the symbol of France, but an early DS with yellow lights is up there, too
Amazing final corner on that last race!! Absolutely perfect
Can we get get Steve to read a meditation book or something to help you fall asleep? It's amazing how calming it is.
Kirby bro, it's a Nintendo franchise
I’ll have to replay Mario bc I never noticed Kirby in it
Fun fact: if you replace any youtube link with that Wifi Password Guy's name, it will show a very relaxing documentary of the making of Exotic Butters.
Had to play the video at .5x speed just to absorb the absolute madness of the high speed action
We run these all the time in my Assetto Corsa community, Freestyle Aces. They're great fun on the right track.
That ol switcheroo to p6 on the last lap last corner was amazing.
One of the greatest "old swicharoos" ever, in that last corner... pure perfection... The adrenalin from watching this blisteringly fast paced race was almost too much for me!
That last overtake was so satisfying to see
3:12 "Even this pink car with a Pokémon on it" I think every Kirby fan died there.
What a belter of a video, and with a real twist of fate right at the end too. Amazing stuff, bringing it home right at the last turn.
Love all the car horns each time you overtake - realistic!
Love, love, love your videos. So much fun to watch while learning the little tweaks here and there from different driving styles and cars. Thank you Steve, you're a legend.
Wonderful stuff Steve! love to see you get your deserved P6! That old switcheroo on the last corner was a nice touch as well, love to see it!
The last overtake was so nice, i kept on rewatching it!
I really enjoyed that race, but I also happen to be an extreme nerd when it comes to old hydropneumatic Citroëns (and own a semi-old one as well, only 22 years old though) 😃
And finishing in 6th! Beautiful! 😆
Man the way you describe your errors and how it cost you 2 positions was just superb. Funny as hell. Subbed.
The amount of corner cutting without penalty in this game is ridiculous.
I know it's been mentioned already, but...
Steve calling Kirby a Pokémon made my eyes widen more than they ever have.
I'd actually would love to drive that car for real on a racetrack with the amazing suspension
25 years ago I owned a DS for some years. Still remember her for the super soft suspension, perfect weight distribution for a front drive car (because of the engine behind the front axle). Very little understear. And quite noisy inside ...
The very big disc brakes were mounted at the gearbox, not at the wheels. Instead of a pedal there was a tiny rubber mushroom. The brakes worked with the high pressure hydraulik of the suspension and was much better then most of the cars of that era.
What looks different in the game: the air suspension was softer and with little dampening. The rolling in the corners was much bigger. Under acceleration the butt of the lady went down and at braking up. In the game this all looks quite modern and neutral.
A very remarkable car. I'm still happy when I see one. Even in a game :-)
At 10:19 - When you say '...such a SILLY moment...', Siri on my computer wanted to know what's up. Tried it 3 times. Works every time. GG
I learned a lot from driving a Karmann Ghia with 40 horsepower in GT4.
Also Kirby is not a pokemon, but he might be related.
That junkyard livery against all those beautiful period colours opens up a whole 'Cool Runnings' branch of Super GT fan fiction
The legend of Nintendo, a man immortalised in a game character, a videogame hero. Super GT "That Pokémon". I can't love you more
Scott Speed would be impressed with the sheer slowness of this car.
Brilliant stuff. A mate of mine had one of these and I absolutely loved driving it. Most comfortable and cool car ever!
Petition for Steve to do 200 laps at Nurburgring Nordschleife in this car.
You learn valuable lessons in slow cars, Grand Turismo was always king in teaching those to it's racers.
Wi-Fi password is back? Man, so happy to see the return of a real one
Nice Jigglypuff livery on that pink car 😏
I recently discovered (late, I know) that there is a Gran Turismo World Series but was disappointed to find that every race is for fast cars and there's none for slower cars. I find that racing slower cars in games like this, the Forza games and others is much more fun that racing fast cars. Fast cars are fun too, but races with slower cars are more fun. They don't get a look-in at the GTWS, though.
The legendary return of Wi-fi password guy, what a comeback
This excitement lasted too long, but very clean racing, well done SuperGT.
That last overtake was brilliant
Last overtake was textbook quality, great stuff! Get in there Lewis!
Feels like watching 20W50 oil getting poured out at -25°C🤣
another banger lets go!!
good work mate!
That final overtake was beautiful, absolute perfection.
I love that this car's been added. I walked past one of these at the weekend in similar condition to your car in this video only probably less driveable, not a common site in the UK (In fact it can be seen on Google street view if you go to the junction of Doctors Lane and High Street in West Meon. Maybe a Super GT viewer has the resources to buy it and give it the love it needs :D)
Car is a living legend, famous for the hydro shocks system.
I bet you hardly felt the kerbs stepping on them, even the highest one
There's 3 different types of racing classes in every game:
Top tier, where you wanna have the best brakes so you stay fast longer. earlier on the throttle wins the race.
Slow cars, where it's imperative to stay at speed through as much of the track as you can since acceleration doesn't happen instantly.
Everything in between is a compromise between these.
And then there's sometimes Offroad races where it's about ramming people at the right time
The long awaited return of Wi-Fi password 🎉
That was an absolutely sensational ol' switcheroo right at the end
I absolutely love these slow car races. Showcases some of the best tech driving :)
Racing slow cars like this can be a lot of fun.
i missed wi-fi password, im so happy to see him back
11:20 I love the slower car races(thus my profile pic). The preservation of momentum is so pure and essential.
18:25 was like a ballet dance. Beautiful move.
Perfect livery for that car!
This is actually the kind of driving I like: this is it, deal with it. Modern racing cars, they’re all good. Some differences but they’re all up to snuff, basically. Especially with bop, if it’s done right.
Roadcars, especially the classics, you need to deal with them. Find out the peculiar things they’re good at, or not good at, and find a way. You can’t just go in and expect compliance, you need to respect them. That’s my real passion, and that’s why I like lobbies over onlines any day of the week
My all time favorite car. 1st car I ever rode in. Dad had a dozen or so from 60 through to his Citroën SM he got in the late 70"s. Hopefully, your views pick up. I shared it with a FB Citroën group.
That was an intense race. The sheer speed & power!
Big point for that final overtake, it's soo smooth, but for calling Kirby a Pokémon, gonna reduct the points to -10
4:50 i love how he honked after overtaken XD
I'm very glad you're back to posting without VR, hope it sticks. Yes it might be awesome and realistic for the player, but for us, a bit dizzying. Also my pet peeve, I could not see your power-brake inputs and radar etc. clearly. This is much better for.learning from you.