‘Why no LSD’ they say, ‘where’s my Limited-slip differential?’. Thumbs up and reply to this comment if you wish we gave the Genesis’ LSD some love in this episode.
@@PRNTestDrive I just reread your original comment and feel like an idiot now lol. I kind of just assumed you were saying it has no LSD based on the other comments, but your original comment was clear. Yes, you should've given the LSD more love, but overall, great review. Thanks for the reply :)
Actually it's good that you are closer to the size of some of the people who will actually buy the car. You have great delivery. And I like that you mention some of the negative aspects of the car. A lot of reviewers are gushing over this car. @@PRNTestDrive
The Koreans have definitely jumped over the Japanese: Lexus, Infiniti and Acura. They are trying to hold middle ground by under cutting Germans: Mercedes, Audi and BMW with pricing. The only thing they need is better mpg and actual dealerships, maybe an SUV. Good job Genesis we are watching your reliability.
I know the Genesis GV70 or GV80 is in the works for a launch sometime within the next 48 months. Genesis has been smart to roll out slowly, much like Lexus did when they first launched.
I am at 25 mpg mix in a new 2020 AWD Stinger GT with this same TT V6.I leave it in comfort and drive about 10 over the limit--so I am cruising pretty decently>If you get on it--it will drink gas--but the acceleration is excellent with this engine.The interior and fit and finish is on Par with my last car--a Honda crosstour--which means it has a general feel of quality--buttons in the KIA have a nice "click" to all the buttons.It is also a very stable Hi speed car.It hits above its class--especially in price.
Nice review and a very nice car 👍 What I don't like is automotive reviewers' constant need to compare interior room and whine about it. Ffs it's supposed to be a compact car. Because of this cars have grown larger and larger. If you want more space, buy a bigger car, i see no point complaining about the lack of space in anything other than a real passenger-oriented luxury car. I feel like this "compact" car is probably bigger than an old 5 series.
Compared to an E39 540i which we've featured, the BMW has more space. As far as space goes, we felt this was a lot like the 1992 Acura Vigor we filmed last year in terms of interior space, especially when it comes to the back seat leg room.
The old 5 Series comparison was an exaggeration, and only really addressing that statement is intentionally dodging the point. Cars are designed for size classes and should be compared in space within its class; saying it doesn't have enough space in general may just be a complaint at the compact sedan class in general and might as well be faulting a minivan for not being fun to drive as other car classes. Comparing this to an Infiniti Q50 in space is deceptive since the Q50 is over 5 inches longer, which is actually the same length as the Stinger. Saying the space is about the same as the Mercedes C43 is actually really telling about how the Genesis utilizes its interior space since the C43 and G70 are the same length. So in other words, it's almost exactly class competitive space.
Here's why and actually I think a lot of reviewers are missing the boat on this topic. When Cadillac released the ATS every reviewer raved (and still do) about its handling, being even significantly better than the 3-series at the time. However the ATS has been a commercial flop mostly because of it small sized and also of course because of its lower badge appeal to the target audience. I fear the G70 will suffer the same faith for the very same 2 reasons. Interior and cargo space size wise it is really a competitor to the ATS/IS350/A3 so yes it is justified to "whine" about it.
The crossover version of this will sell like hotcakes! I've actually already seen more G70s than Stingers even though it came to market almost a year later!
Genesis does need to start rolling out those GV models, that’s for sure! While we personally prefer sedans/hatch/wagons over crossovers and SUVs, there’s no doubt the market wants them.
@@PRNTestDrive Space! All the heights you mentioned easily clear 6 foot, so I think I won't mind. When I sit behind my own 5'7/8 driving position I have quite a bit of room. The G80 is overkill on space and I don't like that it doesnt have fold down seats. Or metal nubs on the steering wheel.
@@PRNTestDrive Yeah most of my concerns were addressed with the test drive. The only downs are why Koreans get a sick 3D driver display, and why the fuel economy of this engine is so bad. lol
I just test drove one today G70 3.3t Elite and I would say I am very impressed overall ! I’m currently driving a 2018 Infiniti Q50 3.0t Luxe AWD with 99% full bolt on and Ecutek tuned. (3.7-4.0 secs 0-60) But this G70 is a lot better over all. The Q50 transmission is like 10 years old technology and way behind the G70. G70 just need a JB4 piggy back system and it will beat on my tuned Q50 all day long....It’s an awesome car for the money! G70 includes 3yrs/36 months free maintenance service. 5 yrs/60 months bumper to bumper warranty 10 yrs/100k miles powertrain warranty 3years free roadside assistance and their own service for like remote start etc via phone app!
Thank you for going into some of the small details that some of the other reviewers overlook. Your review is very practical and relevant to the buyers looking to possibly upgrade from Hyundai to Genesis.
We’re happy to hear that, thank you! We’re testing out these longer formats to see if there’s interest in it. Next week’s Monday episode is going to be interesting to see how much people want to know about a car or not.
We really appreciate that, thanks! We've taken things to the next level with the episode coming on Monday, hoping it does well, if so we'll try to continue with that new style.
Love the videos! Keep it up. It's okay to be big and I am glad you do reviews. Every reviewer is unique and it's good to gauge how people of similar sizes feel in other vehicles. Thanks again for all the reviews.
I went to the Boston Auto Show back when Genesis was first launched and there was a sizable crowd milling around the G80 and G90. This year I went back and Genesis was in a bigger display with more people. I couldn't get near a G70.
It was the same on press day for both the Montreal and Toronto Auto Shows. People are really interested to see what's coming from Genesis, and that should translate into strong sales for them this year.
Agreed on the interior, Genesis must have it's own HUD, infotainment, switches and dials, etc. It cannot be just a fancier Hyundai, it gotta be luxury. Though their pricing, warranty, concierge services are unbeatable.
Definitely true when it comes to the warranty and concierge services, they're really pushing that hard up here in Canada. The HUD isn't a deal killer for us, but we definitely want a unique look for the infotainment setup. If you're competing with BMW iDrive and Mercedes Comand, you need to offer something more than the Hyundai Accent has.
TheMichaelRN Totally disagree. The main thing I’m looking for is smart and practical design, not design that keeps a bunch of engineers employed putting “Mercedes” or “BMW” infotainment control systems in a car despite the fact that they are harder to use, take up more dash space and are more dangerous because they’re distracting. Give me Apple CarPlay with touch screen and you’re way ahead of the Germans in actual usefulness and safety.
We really appreciate that, thanks! We went all-out for this coming Monday's episode, we hope you feel the same way about that one too. If the response is strong & positive, we'll continue with it!
I think a lot of people would agree with that, you're getting a luxurious vehicle for a fraction of the price, not to mention Hyundai's overall reliability has gotten better over the last little while.
One thing that really bugs me about this car, the Stinger, and others, that is the way the "infotainment" screen sits up so prominently, as if it's been glued to the dashboard as an afterthought. The G80 and G90 and many others have the screen integrated into the dash, which is a much better look. I am trying to get over this objection, but so far i can't.
I think it ultimately comes down to cost for the manufacturers, I have to believe it's less expensive for them to go this route, since a lot of them are doing it.
Glad you liked it! There's a lot of potential with this car, gives buyers something different to consider over the usual BMW 3 Series or Mercedes C-Class.
This car was on my shopping list but as you said it is so cramped inside, im 6.3 and couldn’t feel complete even sitting in it in showroom not to mention driving it for over an hour (my daily commute) I heard that in 2021 they are going to address that even its just a facelift but it seems the interior space is so killing it that they will fix it in the refresh rather than waiting for a new generation
That's interesting, I haven't looked into any rumours about the facelift. A bit more space would be good on this, the BMW 3 Series didn't feel as tight, this was closer in terms of interior space to the Mercedes A-Class we did.
That's a great question actually, it's something that's been discussed on one of the Genesis Owners forums I'm part of. I'm surprised they decided to roll this out in the US so late in the game, usually Canada is the last to get a new model.
Most car reviewers dont do any shots of the interior at night or the headlights illumination, join the minority. Even dedicating 30 seconds to lighting will make a difference,.keep up the good work.
I'll admit I don't do it often, mostly only with the luxury cars when the interior ambient lighting is good. I don't have the proper camera equipment to film in low light.
Some manufacturers have their Canadian offices in Ontario, and the vehicles are registered there and shipped out. Interestingly Lamborghini Canada is located in Alberta, so all the press cars across the country come with Albertan fleet plates.
We're looking forward to get behind the wheel of the new Genesis models. We had a chance to see the G90 twice in Toronto and Montreal, it looks really good in person.
It is pretty tight to get in I’m 5’11” at 200 pounds and it definitely takes some getting used too. It’s easier to fit in the Veloster believe it or not
That's one of the few cars I haven't booked because I didn't think I'd fit super well into it. But you're right it definitely takes time to get used to, I've been in the new Jeep Wrangler all week and the space has grown on me. I'm sure the same would have happened for this G70 if I had spent as much time with it.
Nice review, thank you. I’m definitely looking at this vehicle can overlook the infotainment system since they age rapidly in this segment. Not to mention repair costs when they eventually break.
One question: some reviewers have reported a lot of squeak and rattles when driving the Stinger. Did you experience that on the Stinger or G70 you reviewed? Thanks.
Didn’t experience that with either car, and both had high mileage in terms of press cars. Usually these cars are beaten a lot harder by the journalists, and everything seemed to be solid on both. I feel that a press car will age twice as fast, so for the Genesis it had about 11,000km, but in terms of wear/tear would be like 22,000km if it was an owner’s own car.
I’d say the M340i that’s coming out would be the most comparable to this. Even the Infiniti Q50S 400 we featured wouldn’t be at M3 level of performance.
Hey There! That was a really good real-world review. I appreciate you pointing out some things that aren't so great as well as the good stuff. I didn't get that with MT's COTY review because it was all good stuff, pretty much. So, my lease on a 2016 Regal GS AWD is up in July and I like the car, but they're cheap on the interior. I have the 20" wheels so that really impacts front leg room and since I'm 6" and about 190, it's not the most comfortable. The 2019 GS looks better and looks more comfortable, but not improved enough to win me over. The G70 is on my shortlist to test drive, but I haven't yet. Do you think a guy my size would be comfortable in the car and are there other cars in the segment you recommend checking out? Thanks Nile, and again, great review - very helpful!
I'm also 6" and found the legroom to be good on the Genesis, but the seats don't go too far back. One of the small 'issues' I had was the easy-exit for the driver's seat, it's supposed to move back when you shut off the car but due to my seating position it was already further back than the programmed 'exit' distance. I'd definitely take it for a road test to see how you like it! Personally I prefer the Stinger over the G70, a bit more space I find.
I really like this car. But I must say the interior is not where it needs to be. Some of he buttons look a lot like my elantra's. The infotainment system and the center counsel and dashboard needs remodeling imo. I could see problems in the rear seat as mentioned by OP. I fear not being able to put a babyseat comfortably. I felt like the car hugged me but if I going to spend on this car, I would like to have a beautiful center counsel and dashboard.
It's a really solid vehicle, but like you said they do have a few things to work on. Space-wise I don't see much changing since the G80 offers more head room and leg space, but creating a different set of buttons and infotainment screen would go a long way!
I just tested fitting a large convertible toddler seat facing backwards and it fit perfectly fine and allowed the front passenger seat to have good legroom. The interior overall space seems very similar to my Infiniti G37 sedan.
i loved this i was think and wonder that why they not make this car a awd when time i will need to buy one but now i see they make a four wheels so thanks to the engineer that make this car a awd.when i need to buy one i know this is a awd.this engineers really designed a very beautiful looking cars.
Nice review and agree with you're opinions. They need to walk first not run. The infiniti and Acura are more of its competition for now... and oddly the stinger. The tablet screen on the dash and analog gauges area a let down too and it's too small. But so nice looking. I'm split on this car.
Great points! After seeing what BMW is doing for the next generation 3 Series, Genesis will need to work hard to catch up. Apparently they already have a complete digital cluster for the Korean market, but continuous improvements will definitely help them sell.
Actually, to say they should walk before they run is really just a brand whore trying to reconcile the fact that no other brand can touch this car in a direct comparison, INCLUDING PRICE. Once you consider price, no one else even comes close. You can't compare this to cars costing 15 grand more for the same features/grunt.
I thought it was strange that Hyundai killed off the Genesis Coupe, I saw way more of them on the road than the original Genesis. Hopefully a two door model is in their near future.
If it were my money I’d go for the Stinger. You lose on the LSD which isn’t much, but gain some interior space and the rear power lift back for $8k less. Both are great cars, exciting time to be a car enthusiast!
Thanks for answering this question because I too wanted your opinion on this. Also interesting the BMW 240i is not getting the same bad press and yet no LSD either unless purchased as a dealer installed for an eye watering price. Hopefully there will be an aftermarket LSD for the folks really wanting one.
@@LitfinA: actually and interestingly enough Car & Driver instrumented tests shows the Stinger as being faster than the G70 for almost every performance results except for the skid pad.
All the cars in this segment performance is good its basically what flavor you like I think its nice I would buy it before one of the Germans my fav in the segment is the ats, tlx, and q50 I have owned 2 Acura's and 1 infinity and the Cadillac's I love there style
If you're in the US, I believe the car still isn't out. I don't watch a lot of traditional TV here in Canada anymore, so I can't say if they're doing anything on local stations, but I do see internet ads for Genesis often enough. Probably more so this week since we've been pushing our episodes on this and the Showdown on the Q50S.
the sunday night football halftime show is sponsored by Genesis. They played an ad or two during commmercial breaks. First time ive seen a G70/80/90 advertised on TV in the U.S
nyhunter256 S. I looked at Audi. Benz but fell in love with the Acura. The reviewers raved about how it drives and feels like a car and I couldn't agree more.
Unbelievable that you would compare this vehicle to ANY other. It is in a class of it's own. Every time you start to open your mouth to criticize anything about this vehicle, consider the price, and you will be forced to shut your mouth. You can't compare the infotainment in this vehicle to BMW or Mercedes (both of which have shitty systems, IMO) because it costs a minimum of 10 grand less than either one of those brands, for similar kit/performance. And more like 15 grand less (I'm talking U.S. dollars, but applies to Canadian as well). When you consider price, and level of execution, this vehicle simply can't be compared to any car by another maker. BTW, I'm not necessarily a fanboy - I've owned one Kia and no Hyundai products. Let's face it - Kia/Hyundai are schooling the rest of the industry. It's so entertaining to watch.
Since you begin with this is your first genesis then you should have started with the G90, because it's a better example of a high end luxury car, this is a luxury sport with the key word being sport!
I drove the original Hyundai Genesis 5.0 back when it launched, this was the first 'Genesis' brand we featured on TestDrive. This is also the only car on the press fleet from Genesis as the G80 and G90 weren't changed for 2018 or 2019. Now that the 2020 G90 is hitting dealerships we expect to be able to feature it later this year.
It's the effect of using post-processing stabilization. Either we get jittery motion from our own hand movement with the equipment, or we deal with this warp effect in post. The reality is we aren't making enough on these videos to afford better gear to fix this. The episode we're publishing next Monday has none of that effect, but it also cost us 10x the time to produce it than this episode did.
The Stinger in comparaison to this is unattainable. A base 2.0T GT-Line (42$k) is 700$/month lease (60 months and 20 000km/year) while the G70 Advanced (42$k) is 520$/month for the same terms. AND it has all the concierge services and "free" maintenance for these 5 years! Talk about affordable! Heck it's the same payements as an Optima SX (not even SX-L!)!
We hear a lot about Kia's awful lease/finance rates in comparison to the competition. It's something that isn't really discussed in reviews, since market conditions really affect the bottom line price you're paying per month, but we always hear from viewers that Kia monthly payments are too high. Genesis seems to know what they're doing, most people in the luxury segment lease, so make the terms appealing and affordable!
They usually have good financing rates (0 - 1% up to 84 months) but with the Stinger, nothing. Is there anyone out there who would want 4.99 or even 5.99% financing for 7 years? That's like someone with really bad credit looking to buy a used car type of financing rates!
Very nice vehicle, pretty compact all-around. If I had this thing I would slap the Hyundai badge on it. There's just something about sleeper cars like this one
Nice car, but I chose the Stinger because it is better looking (certainly more distinctive) and much roomier. The G70 is good looking, but kind of generic.
I'm split. I think this is better looking, will age much better, but there I no doubting the hatch and the space the stinger has over the g70. But, then there's Genesis all inclusive maintenance, much lower interest rate on lease, and now it's getting blurry as to which one I'd take. But leasing a Stinger at 3-5%....no way man.
I think our point on this was comparing HOW Lexus and Acura originally entered the market, whereas BMW and Mercedes-Benz are long-established luxury brands that don't have mainstream counterparts. Both Honda and Toyota had to launch their luxury brands from scratch, just like Genesis has done.
We checked out the 2018 Mercedes C 43 during the week we had the G70, there seems to be some inspiration that’s come to Genesis, but then again most manufacturers are copying what everyone else is doing too.
Older audis perhaps but not the newest audi design except for the HVAC controls; however Audi has a digital display on the temperature controls which is a far better design.
Test drove extended. it's not up to snuff with EU cars but is a nice cost.It lacks personality and just kinda looks like so may other Asian cars. After the drive got back in my son's 14 428 ix and it's some much more comfortable seats and better stereo. The Alfa Giulia is the funnest car to drive right now and big discounts
At least you're able to buy a Stinger, goods luck finding a Genesis. It seems like a great car and I'd take it over the Stinger and the Stinger is a great car too!
We're publishing an episode on Monday with the new MBUX infotainment system, it felt a bit better than their outgoing Comand system. We also recently drove the 2020 Kia Telluride and Kia Soul, both with Hyundai/Kia's new widescreen infotainment system which is excellent. I expect the Genesis G70 will get that screen in a year, two at the most.
‘Why no LSD’ they say, ‘where’s my Limited-slip differential?’. Thumbs up and reply to this comment if you wish we gave the Genesis’ LSD some love in this episode.
It has a LSD. COME ON MAN
They do have a lsd
Huh? It has an LSD...
It does, we never mentioned it specifically in this episode. The comment is meant to preempt any comments we’d get about why we didn’t mention it.
@@PRNTestDrive I just reread your original comment and feel like an idiot now lol. I kind of just assumed you were saying it has no LSD based on the other comments, but your original comment was clear. Yes, you should've given the LSD more love, but overall, great review. Thanks for the reply :)
If anybody is shallow enough to remind you of your weight, they're the ones who have issues man. Keep up the reviews mate✊🏻
We definitely ignore the hate, thanks for the support!
Actually it's good that you are closer to the size of some of the people who will actually buy the car. You have great delivery. And I like that you mention some of the negative aspects of the car. A lot of reviewers are gushing over this car. @@PRNTestDrive
Well said man. It’s pathetic how people act.
The Koreans have definitely jumped over the Japanese: Lexus, Infiniti and Acura. They are trying to hold middle ground by under cutting Germans: Mercedes, Audi and BMW with pricing. The only thing they need is better mpg and actual dealerships, maybe an SUV.
Good job Genesis we are watching your reliability.
I know the Genesis GV70 or GV80 is in the works for a launch sometime within the next 48 months. Genesis has been smart to roll out slowly, much like Lexus did when they first launched.
Over infiniti and acura for sure, but definitely not over lexus yet.
Lexus?!! I don’t think so!😂
I am at 25 mpg mix in a new 2020 AWD Stinger GT with this same TT V6.I leave it in comfort and drive about 10 over the limit--so I am cruising pretty decently>If you get on it--it will drink gas--but the acceleration is excellent with this engine.The interior and fit and finish is on Par with my last car--a Honda crosstour--which means it has a general feel of quality--buttons in the KIA have a nice "click" to all the buttons.It is also a very stable Hi speed car.It hits above its class--especially in price.
Sirchan 1, I highly suggest you watch Exhaust Sports Autos vid on the G90.
Nice review and a very nice car 👍 What I don't like is automotive reviewers' constant need to compare interior room and whine about it. Ffs it's supposed to be a compact car. Because of this cars have grown larger and larger. If you want more space, buy a bigger car, i see no point complaining about the lack of space in anything other than a real passenger-oriented luxury car. I feel like this "compact" car is probably bigger than an old 5 series.
Compared to an E39 540i which we've featured, the BMW has more space. As far as space goes, we felt this was a lot like the 1992 Acura Vigor we filmed last year in terms of interior space, especially when it comes to the back seat leg room.
The old 5 Series comparison was an exaggeration, and only really addressing that statement is intentionally dodging the point. Cars are designed for size classes and should be compared in space within its class; saying it doesn't have enough space in general may just be a complaint at the compact sedan class in general and might as well be faulting a minivan for not being fun to drive as other car classes. Comparing this to an Infiniti Q50 in space is deceptive since the Q50 is over 5 inches longer, which is actually the same length as the Stinger. Saying the space is about the same as the Mercedes C43 is actually really telling about how the Genesis utilizes its interior space since the C43 and G70 are the same length. So in other words, it's almost exactly class competitive space.
Here's why and actually I think a lot of reviewers are missing the boat on this topic. When Cadillac released the ATS every reviewer raved (and still do) about its handling, being even significantly better than the 3-series at the time. However the ATS has been a commercial flop mostly because of it small sized and also of course because of its lower badge appeal to the target audience. I fear the G70 will suffer the same faith for the very same 2 reasons. Interior and cargo space size wise it is really a competitor to the ATS/IS350/A3 so yes it is justified to "whine" about it.
The crossover version of this will sell like hotcakes! I've actually already seen more G70s than Stingers even though it came to market almost a year later!
Genesis does need to start rolling out those GV models, that’s for sure! While we personally prefer sedans/hatch/wagons over crossovers and SUVs, there’s no doubt the market wants them.
Wow finally a reviewer who will address my one concern with the G70. Thanks!
What was that concern? I think we addressed a couple small things about the G70 throughout the video.
@@PRNTestDrive Space! All the heights you mentioned easily clear 6 foot, so I think I won't mind. When I sit behind my own 5'7/8 driving position I have quite a bit of room. The G80 is overkill on space and I don't like that it doesnt have fold down seats. Or metal nubs on the steering wheel.
It's in-line with the BMW 4-Series in terms of interior space. Hopefully it's a good size for you!
@@PRNTestDrive Yeah most of my concerns were addressed with the test drive. The only downs are why Koreans get a sick 3D driver display, and why the fuel economy of this engine is so bad. lol
I expect to see that digital cluster pretty soon over here.
I just test drove one today G70 3.3t Elite and I would say I am very impressed overall ! I’m currently driving a 2018 Infiniti Q50 3.0t Luxe AWD with 99% full bolt on and Ecutek tuned. (3.7-4.0 secs 0-60)
But this G70 is a lot better over all. The Q50 transmission is like 10 years old technology and way behind the G70.
G70 just need a JB4 piggy back system and it will beat on my tuned Q50 all day long....It’s an awesome car for the money!
G70 includes
3yrs/36 months free maintenance service.
5 yrs/60 months bumper to bumper warranty
10 yrs/100k miles powertrain warranty
3years free roadside assistance and their
own service for like remote start etc via phone app!
We did do a Showdown with the Infiniti Q50 Red Sport and this, if you're interested!
Thank you for going into some of the small details that some of the other reviewers overlook. Your review is very practical and relevant to the buyers looking to possibly upgrade from Hyundai to Genesis.
We’re happy to hear that, thank you! We’re testing out these longer formats to see if there’s interest in it. Next week’s Monday episode is going to be interesting to see how much people want to know about a car or not.
You really got something good here with your presentation, keep up the good work.
We really appreciate that, thanks! We've taken things to the next level with the episode coming on Monday, hoping it does well, if so we'll try to continue with that new style.
I value my time and money, therefore easy choice Genesis all the way.
Fair enough
Love the videos! Keep it up. It's okay to be big and I am glad you do reviews. Every reviewer is unique and it's good to gauge how people of similar sizes feel in other vehicles. Thanks again for all the reviews.
We really appreciate that, thank you! We ignore the hate, life is too short to be hateful towards people. We've got big plans for the show for 2019!
@@PRNTestDrive yes indeed it is too short. Will be looking forward to them! :)
I went to the Boston Auto Show back when Genesis was first launched and there was a sizable crowd milling around the G80 and G90. This year I went back and Genesis was in a bigger display with more people. I couldn't get near a G70.
It was the same on press day for both the Montreal and Toronto Auto Shows. People are really interested to see what's coming from Genesis, and that should translate into strong sales for them this year.
Agreed on the interior, Genesis must have it's own HUD, infotainment, switches and dials, etc. It cannot be just a fancier Hyundai, it gotta be luxury. Though their pricing, warranty, concierge services are unbeatable.
Definitely true when it comes to the warranty and concierge services, they're really pushing that hard up here in Canada. The HUD isn't a deal killer for us, but we definitely want a unique look for the infotainment setup. If you're competing with BMW iDrive and Mercedes Comand, you need to offer something more than the Hyundai Accent has.
For the price, it's absolutely fine.
You're not competing with BMW and Mercedes when you offer a product with very similar performance for 15 grand less. You are in a league of your own.
@@AMan-he9sz exactly! And these morons saying "you can't use parts from hyundai cars and use the for the genesis cars". All car companies do it!
TheMichaelRN Totally disagree. The main thing I’m looking for is smart and practical design, not design that keeps a bunch of engineers employed putting “Mercedes” or “BMW” infotainment control systems in a car despite the fact that they are harder to use, take up more dash space and are more dangerous because they’re distracting. Give me Apple CarPlay with touch screen and you’re way ahead of the Germans in actual usefulness and safety.
Great review. New sub. Keep em coming, I'll keep watching!!!
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Getting better and better buddy 👍👍👍
Thanks! We're really excited for next Monday's episode. Spent almost the entire week filming, so we're hoping it pays off!
It's only been a few months since I've seen one of your last videos and I'm blown away by how much better your reviews are getting. Good work!!
We really appreciate that, thanks! We went all-out for this coming Monday's episode, we hope you feel the same way about that one too. If the response is strong & positive, we'll continue with it!
Genesis seems to be the best value for the money.
I think a lot of people would agree with that, you're getting a luxurious vehicle for a fraction of the price, not to mention Hyundai's overall reliability has gotten better over the last little while.
Great review. You are very detail oriented. I like it.
I'm happy to hear that, thank you!
One thing that really bugs me about this car, the Stinger, and others, that is the way the "infotainment" screen sits up so prominently, as if it's been glued to the dashboard as an afterthought. The G80 and G90 and many others have the screen integrated into the dash, which is a much better look. I am trying to get over this objection, but so far i can't.
I think it ultimately comes down to cost for the manufacturers, I have to believe it's less expensive for them to go this route, since a lot of them are doing it.
Looking so attractive
We agree! We had a lot of heads turning during the week we had this, people are definitely interested in seeing it!
Very nice car, a good review. Value is definitely there, performance as well
Glad you liked it! There's a lot of potential with this car, gives buyers something different to consider over the usual BMW 3 Series or Mercedes C-Class.
That blue is awesome. Very nice looking car.
Agreed, a nice splash of colour works well for this size!
This car was on my shopping list but as you said it is so cramped inside, im 6.3 and couldn’t feel complete even sitting in it in showroom not to mention driving it for over an hour (my daily commute) I heard that in 2021 they are going to address that even its just a facelift but it seems the interior space is so killing it that they will fix it in the refresh rather than waiting for a new generation
That's interesting, I haven't looked into any rumours about the facelift. A bit more space would be good on this, the BMW 3 Series didn't feel as tight, this was closer in terms of interior space to the Mercedes A-Class we did.
When is the car coming to the US it was supposed to be here in the spring and it still hasn't arrived here.
That's a great question actually, it's something that's been discussed on one of the Genesis Owners forums I'm part of. I'm surprised they decided to roll this out in the US so late in the game, usually Canada is the last to get a new model.
Perpetual Radio Networks Well I guess this year we are Canada. Hope it's soon because I love what I see in all these TH-cam videos. 👍
They are in transit to dealers and should be available sometime next week, check with your local Hyundai dealers that are certified to sell Genesis
@@melo2048 thanks
Excellent review 👍🏻
Glad you liked it! I had fun with this one.
Most car reviewers dont do any shots of the interior at night or the headlights illumination, join the minority. Even dedicating 30 seconds to lighting will make a difference,.keep up the good work.
I'll admit I don't do it often, mostly only with the luxury cars when the interior ambient lighting is good. I don't have the proper camera equipment to film in low light.
Enjoy your view. Nice work.
BTW, why your tester always have Ontario plate while you always drive in Quebec?
Some manufacturers have their Canadian offices in Ontario, and the vehicles are registered there and shipped out. Interestingly Lamborghini Canada is located in Alberta, so all the press cars across the country come with Albertan fleet plates.
Very nice review! Weighting for G80 2020 release!
We're looking forward to get behind the wheel of the new Genesis models. We had a chance to see the G90 twice in Toronto and Montreal, it looks really good in person.
Is the nav as bad as it looks? Very small screen.
The screen is on the smaller side but the software itself is class-leading.
How did I never hear from that beauty
We've heard that Genesis hasn't rolled out globally yet. That might be why!
It is pretty tight to get in I’m 5’11” at 200 pounds and it definitely takes some getting used too. It’s easier to fit in the Veloster believe it or not
That's one of the few cars I haven't booked because I didn't think I'd fit super well into it. But you're right it definitely takes time to get used to, I've been in the new Jeep Wrangler all week and the space has grown on me. I'm sure the same would have happened for this G70 if I had spent as much time with it.
The interior space is fine ----- It is comfortable in every other review -
If every review were the same, what would be the point of anyone else reviewing cars?
I love your reviews!!
We love hearing that, thanks!
Man I love this car just did test drive buying this car soon
Glad to hear it! There's a lot of positive buzz surrounding Genesis right now.
Yea don't care about the seats it's just me and girl
Are the amber turn indicators LED..front & rear?
I believe they should be from what I recall.
Am in love with this car...
I think a lot of people are!
Nice review, thank you. I’m definitely looking at this vehicle can overlook the infotainment system since they age rapidly in this segment. Not to mention repair costs when they eventually break.
Good points! Repair cost for this one though shouldn't be too costly, considering it really is just the same Hyundai part they use on other models.
One question: some reviewers have reported a lot of squeak and rattles when driving the Stinger. Did you experience that on the Stinger or G70 you reviewed? Thanks.
Didn’t experience that with either car, and both had high mileage in terms of press cars. Usually these cars are beaten a lot harder by the journalists, and everything seemed to be solid on both. I feel that a press car will age twice as fast, so for the Genesis it had about 11,000km, but in terms of wear/tear would be like 22,000km if it was an owner’s own car.
@@PRNTestDrive: Great, thank you for the response. Much appreciated and glad to hear the Stinger with rattles are not the norm.
Shouldn't be normal! I don't believe we've heard any major about rattling on the forums, just paint issues.
Is g70 3.3T competes with the M3?
I’d say the M340i that’s coming out would be the most comparable to this. Even the Infiniti Q50S 400 we featured wouldn’t be at M3 level of performance.
Hey There! That was a really good real-world review. I appreciate you pointing out some things that aren't so great as well as the good stuff. I didn't get that with MT's COTY review because it was all good stuff, pretty much. So, my lease on a 2016 Regal GS AWD is up in July and I like the car, but they're cheap on the interior. I have the 20" wheels so that really impacts front leg room and since I'm 6" and about 190, it's not the most comfortable. The 2019 GS looks better and looks more comfortable, but not improved enough to win me over. The G70 is on my shortlist to test drive, but I haven't yet. Do you think a guy my size would be comfortable in the car and are there other cars in the segment you recommend checking out? Thanks Nile, and again, great review - very helpful!
I'm also 6" and found the legroom to be good on the Genesis, but the seats don't go too far back. One of the small 'issues' I had was the easy-exit for the driver's seat, it's supposed to move back when you shut off the car but due to my seating position it was already further back than the programmed 'exit' distance. I'd definitely take it for a road test to see how you like it! Personally I prefer the Stinger over the G70, a bit more space I find.
Nice review. If take this over the stinger anyday. Much sportier overall
We do see a lot of them on the road here!
Great review.. Congrats
Thanks for checking this one out!
I really like this car. But I must say the interior is not where it needs to be. Some of he buttons look a lot like my elantra's. The infotainment system and the center counsel and dashboard needs remodeling imo.
I could see problems in the rear seat as mentioned by OP. I fear not being able to put a babyseat comfortably.
I felt like the car hugged me but if I going to spend on this car, I would like to have a beautiful center counsel and dashboard.
It's a really solid vehicle, but like you said they do have a few things to work on. Space-wise I don't see much changing since the G80 offers more head room and leg space, but creating a different set of buttons and infotainment screen would go a long way!
I just tested fitting a large convertible toddler seat facing backwards and it fit perfectly fine and allowed the front passenger seat to have good legroom. The interior overall space seems very similar to my Infiniti G37 sedan.
i loved this i was think and wonder that why they not make this car a awd when time i will need to buy one but now i see they make a four wheels so thanks to the engineer that make this car a awd.when i need to buy one i know this is a awd.this engineers really designed a very beautiful looking cars.
It's a true luxury competitor having that AWD option!
I wish the Lexus IS350 had a twin turbo V6.
The IS seems to be pretty low in power now compared to the recent competition.
Nice review and agree with you're opinions. They need to walk first not run. The infiniti and Acura are more of its competition for now... and oddly the stinger. The tablet screen on the dash and analog gauges area a let down too and it's too small. But so nice looking. I'm split on this car.
Great points! After seeing what BMW is doing for the next generation 3 Series, Genesis will need to work hard to catch up. Apparently they already have a complete digital cluster for the Korean market, but continuous improvements will definitely help them sell.
Actually, to say they should walk before they run is really just a brand whore trying to reconcile the fact that no other brand can touch this car in a direct comparison, INCLUDING PRICE. Once you consider price, no one else even comes close. You can't compare this to cars costing 15 grand more for the same features/grunt.
If they make a 2 door version, it will be sick
I thought it was strange that Hyundai killed off the Genesis Coupe, I saw way more of them on the road than the original Genesis. Hopefully a two door model is in their near future.
great episode awesome car this or kia stinger !?
kia stinger for me…
If it were my money I’d go for the Stinger. You lose on the LSD which isn’t much, but gain some interior space and the rear power lift back for $8k less. Both are great cars, exciting time to be a car enthusiast!
Stinger is way slower because it’s way heavier
Thanks for answering this question because I too wanted your opinion on this. Also interesting the BMW 240i is not getting the same bad press and yet no LSD either unless purchased as a dealer installed for an eye watering price. Hopefully there will be an aftermarket LSD for the folks really wanting one.
@@LitfinA: actually and interestingly enough Car & Driver instrumented tests shows the Stinger as being faster than the G70 for almost every performance results except for the skid pad.
@@LitfinA I wouldn't describe the Stinger as slow car though with all due respect mate
They need to work on the steering wheel. Make it look more attractive but everything else looks stunning
Fair enough! Does the facelift make it better for you?
All the cars in this segment performance is good its basically what flavor you like I think its nice I would buy it before one of the Germans my fav in the segment is the ats, tlx, and q50 I have owned 2 Acura's and 1 infinity and the Cadillac's I love there style
Definitely a lot of competition in the segment, that's for sure.
I have not seen any marketing for the g70.
If you're in the US, I believe the car still isn't out. I don't watch a lot of traditional TV here in Canada anymore, so I can't say if they're doing anything on local stations, but I do see internet ads for Genesis often enough. Probably more so this week since we've been pushing our episodes on this and the Showdown on the Q50S.
the sunday night football halftime show is sponsored by Genesis. They played an ad or two during commmercial breaks. First time ive seen a G70/80/90 advertised on TV in the U.S
Perpetual Radio Networks it's in the USA now. I'm picking mine up December 5th.
nyhunter256 S. I ended up going with the 2019 Rdx from Acura. Genesis can't even get these cars on lots. Done with them.
nyhunter256 S. I looked at Audi. Benz but fell in love with the Acura. The reviewers raved about how it drives and feels like a car and I couldn't agree more.
Unbelievable that you would compare this vehicle to ANY other. It is in a class of it's own. Every time you start to open your mouth to criticize anything about this vehicle, consider the price, and you will be forced to shut your mouth. You can't compare the infotainment in this vehicle to BMW or Mercedes (both of which have shitty systems, IMO) because it costs a minimum of 10 grand less than either one of those brands, for similar kit/performance. And more like 15 grand less (I'm talking U.S. dollars, but applies to Canadian as well). When you consider price, and level of execution, this vehicle simply can't be compared to any car by another maker. BTW, I'm not necessarily a fanboy - I've owned one Kia and no Hyundai products. Let's face it - Kia/Hyundai are schooling the rest of the industry. It's so entertaining to watch.
Alrighty. That's certainly some sentences.
Since you begin with this is your first genesis then you should have started with the G90, because it's a better example of a high end luxury car, this is a luxury sport with the key word being sport!
I drove the original Hyundai Genesis 5.0 back when it launched, this was the first 'Genesis' brand we featured on TestDrive. This is also the only car on the press fleet from Genesis as the G80 and G90 weren't changed for 2018 or 2019. Now that the 2020 G90 is hitting dealerships we expect to be able to feature it later this year.
@@PRNTestDrive good 2 hear I look forward to that particular car review and comparisons to other vehicles in this class
the wobbly camera distortion is incredibly distracting...
It's the effect of using post-processing stabilization. Either we get jittery motion from our own hand movement with the equipment, or we deal with this warp effect in post. The reality is we aren't making enough on these videos to afford better gear to fix this. The episode we're publishing next Monday has none of that effect, but it also cost us 10x the time to produce it than this episode did.
Chevy and Ford had to stop making rear wheel drive cars but Hyundai keeps coming out with new cars.
At least someone's filling the void!
G70 seem bit small for a Quebec Viking.
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The Stinger in comparaison to this is unattainable. A base 2.0T GT-Line (42$k) is 700$/month lease (60 months and 20 000km/year) while the G70 Advanced (42$k) is 520$/month for the same terms. AND it has all the concierge services and "free" maintenance for these 5 years! Talk about affordable! Heck it's the same payements as an Optima SX (not even SX-L!)!
We hear a lot about Kia's awful lease/finance rates in comparison to the competition. It's something that isn't really discussed in reviews, since market conditions really affect the bottom line price you're paying per month, but we always hear from viewers that Kia monthly payments are too high. Genesis seems to know what they're doing, most people in the luxury segment lease, so make the terms appealing and affordable!
They usually have good financing rates (0 - 1% up to 84 months) but with the Stinger, nothing. Is there anyone out there who would want 4.99 or even 5.99% financing for 7 years? That's like someone with really bad credit looking to buy a used car type of financing rates!
Hate those tablet type infotainment screens. I don't even consider a car with that type screen.
We'd really love a world without them too, but it seems to be a growing trend in the auto world.
Totally agree. Horrible design. Hard to reach for both front seats. Ugly afterthought design.
Perpetual Radio Networks Would be nice if it retracted into the dash like some do.
You want them high and forward. Otherwise, the dash has to come forward.
Thanks for your opinion. Lots of us don't mind, and even like tablet style
Very nice vehicle, pretty compact all-around. If I had this thing I would slap the Hyundai badge on it. There's just something about sleeper cars like this one
It's a sleeper, that's for sure! Especially considering how new it still is, you don't see them too often on the road, so most won't recognize it!
Maximum speed?. 300km/h?. 🤔
Fastest we did with this car was 217km/h on a track.
@@PRNTestDrive Okey.
Nice car, but I chose the Stinger because it is better looking (certainly more distinctive) and much roomier. The G70 is good looking, but kind of generic.
We'd take the Stinger over this without a second thought. Better pricing, nicer design, more room, and almost identical mechanics.
I'm split. I think this is better looking, will age much better, but there I no doubting the hatch and the space the stinger has over the g70. But, then there's Genesis all inclusive maintenance, much lower interest rate on lease, and now it's getting blurry as to which one I'd take. But leasing a Stinger at 3-5%....no way man.
To say they must first compare it to a Lexus or Acura is to say Lexus and Acura cant yet be compared to Mercedes and BMW wich is false!
I think our point on this was comparing HOW Lexus and Acura originally entered the market, whereas BMW and Mercedes-Benz are long-established luxury brands that don't have mainstream counterparts. Both Honda and Toyota had to launch their luxury brands from scratch, just like Genesis has done.
The interior looks like a mixture of Mercedes and Audi..anybody?
We checked out the 2018 Mercedes C 43 during the week we had the G70, there seems to be some inspiration that’s come to Genesis, but then again most manufacturers are copying what everyone else is doing too.
Older audis perhaps but not the newest audi design except for the HVAC controls; however Audi has a digital display on the temperature controls which is a far better design.
Peter Schreyer who used to design cars for Audi. Hyundai is smart they hired BMW engineer for handling for Genesis brand.
overall seems good but i prefer the "sister" kia stinger
Agreed! I'll take the lack of the L-SD and a bigger cabin any day. Plus I'd love to be able to own a car I could actually play in Forza Horizon 4!
Test drove extended. it's not up to snuff with EU cars but is a nice cost.It lacks personality and just kinda looks like so may other Asian cars. After the drive got back in my son's 14 428 ix and it's some much more comfortable seats and better stereo. The Alfa Giulia is the funnest car to drive right now and big discounts
We’re hoping to get our hands on the Giulia this year, we’ve been told a 2019 is on order for the press fleet.
Dude, average height is not 6 feet. More like 5’9”. For vast majority of the people in North America, it’s perfectly roomy.
Did I actually say that 6 foot was average? I don’t remember that, but if you’ve got a time code for it then I’ll check it out.
PRN_TestDrive 5:23
I’ll make sure to discriminate less against shorter people in the future 😉
Definitely Lexus, Toyota, Genesis, Hyundai and Kia car company for me! Honda fell to 3rd place for me
Honda seems to have lost their way a little in recent years.
i think the man shaved off some seconds off 0-60
Maybe
It is a nice car but I would take the Stinger 😉
So would we! The Stinger still stands out as a solid sports car/family hauler.
Perpetual Radio Networks I’m a big fan of yours and I appreciate that you took the time to respond to my comment.
Always try to reply back to everyone we can!
At least you're able to buy a Stinger, goods luck finding a Genesis. It seems like a great car and I'd take it over the Stinger and the Stinger is a great car too!
@@patb5266 I just bought the genesis. Crazy Awsome car.
5:15 ... im sure its tight for you ton fit in any car... :(
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Why are most TH-cam car reviewers Canadians? Abut!
Seems like all the top talent is up here!
Yeah sorry, I stupidly paused the video before I watched it through. I had just gotten off work after working a 15 hour shift. Sorry about that.
No worries!
lmao @ standard height 6ft
For me it is.
Mercedes has a horrible infotainment system....
Hyundais is way better.
We're publishing an episode on Monday with the new MBUX infotainment system, it felt a bit better than their outgoing Comand system. We also recently drove the 2020 Kia Telluride and Kia Soul, both with Hyundai/Kia's new widescreen infotainment system which is excellent. I expect the Genesis G70 will get that screen in a year, two at the most.
it's a stinger lol
But better
But flashier
Looks like a Nissan Maxima!
Nissan is trash now
Agree, stay away from Nissan cars. They suck now
OOF
That interior looks cheap.
I think that's the only thing really holding the G70 back, they need to refresh the interior for 2021 with something a little more unique to Genesis.